Talking point: Should party houses be banned?

Talking point: Should party houses be banned?

Talking point: Should party houses be banned?

First published in News

Distraught neighbours have recounted horror stories of living next to party houses in Brighton and Hove.

We want to know if you think they should be banned from the city.

Are they a blight on the city and a nuisance to residents we could do without?

Or do they bring in vital money into the local economy.

Have your say below.


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11:20am Thu 30 Jan 14

Kate234 says...

No they shouldn't as they bring in millions of pounds of money into the city. Ask the restaurants, clubs, bars, cookery class organisers, beauty salons, taxi drivers, tradesmen that service these properties if they want less work and I doubt they will say yes. Also money coming into the city is vital unless we want it to turn into most other UK seaside cities and it end up looking like Blackpool or Hastings.

However they absolutely should not be situated in ridiculous locations which are primarily residential such as Queens Park, Seven Dials, Hove etc You would not stick a Premier Travel Inn in these locations and the same should be true of these houses.
No they shouldn't as they bring in millions of pounds of money into the city. Ask the restaurants, clubs, bars, cookery class organisers, beauty salons, taxi drivers, tradesmen that service these properties if they want less work and I doubt they will say yes. Also money coming into the city is vital unless we want it to turn into most other UK seaside cities and it end up looking like Blackpool or Hastings. However they absolutely should not be situated in ridiculous locations which are primarily residential such as Queens Park, Seven Dials, Hove etc You would not stick a Premier Travel Inn in these locations and the same should be true of these houses. Kate234
  • Score: -7

11:27am Thu 30 Jan 14

minnie&teddy says...

these should be banned they are nothing but badly behaved people with no thought of other people.
these should be banned they are nothing but badly behaved people with no thought of other people. minnie&teddy
  • Score: 14

11:39am Thu 30 Jan 14

minnie&teddy says...

yes they should put them on an industrial estate where people don't live
yes they should put them on an industrial estate where people don't live minnie&teddy
  • Score: 15

11:43am Thu 30 Jan 14

minnie&teddy says...

yes definately
yes definately minnie&teddy
  • Score: 8

12:02pm Thu 30 Jan 14

johnkonyn says...

Obviously siting is important. It is wrong that residential neighbours should be unduly disturbed.

They should be in the entertainment area with hotels and guesthouses. However they are an important resource for generating income for Brighton. Guests will hopefully return to Brighton in future years with their families thus generating even more income.
Obviously siting is important. It is wrong that residential neighbours should be unduly disturbed. They should be in the entertainment area with hotels and guesthouses. However they are an important resource for generating income for Brighton. Guests will hopefully return to Brighton in future years with their families thus generating even more income. johnkonyn
  • Score: 0

12:03pm Thu 30 Jan 14

BURIRAM says...

Yes they should be banned
Yes they should be banned BURIRAM
  • Score: 10

12:36pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Goldenwight says...

I'm obviously missing something important here- what is the significance of the photo of the Volks Railway?
I'm obviously missing something important here- what is the significance of the photo of the Volks Railway? Goldenwight
  • Score: 9

2:12pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Brightonscouse2 says...

Goldenwight wrote:
I'm obviously missing something important here- what is the significance of the photo of the Volks Railway?
Ilook at the foreground of the picture. It's the people in typical hen & stag regalia that's significant.
[quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: I'm obviously missing something important here- what is the significance of the photo of the Volks Railway?[/p][/quote]Ilook at the foreground of the picture. It's the people in typical hen & stag regalia that's significant. Brightonscouse2
  • Score: 1

2:39pm Thu 30 Jan 14

VoodooGangbanger says...

Kate234 wrote:
No they shouldn't as they bring in millions of pounds of money into the city. Ask the restaurants, clubs, bars, cookery class organisers, beauty salons, taxi drivers, tradesmen that service these properties if they want less work and I doubt they will say yes. Also money coming into the city is vital unless we want it to turn into most other UK seaside cities and it end up looking like Blackpool or Hastings.

However they absolutely should not be situated in ridiculous locations which are primarily residential such as Queens Park, Seven Dials, Hove etc You would not stick a Premier Travel Inn in these locations and the same should be true of these houses.
that is absurd, its money in money out, given the temporary residents don't even pay council tax exactly what kind of money is it bringing to the city? its bringing money to a few nightclubs and a few supermarkets, not exactly lining the pockets of the city while creating nuisance for many.

the type of people that own and run these businesses don't live here, more than often they are off with the money to their nice west sussex home away from all the noise they have created.
[quote][p][bold]Kate234[/bold] wrote: No they shouldn't as they bring in millions of pounds of money into the city. Ask the restaurants, clubs, bars, cookery class organisers, beauty salons, taxi drivers, tradesmen that service these properties if they want less work and I doubt they will say yes. Also money coming into the city is vital unless we want it to turn into most other UK seaside cities and it end up looking like Blackpool or Hastings. However they absolutely should not be situated in ridiculous locations which are primarily residential such as Queens Park, Seven Dials, Hove etc You would not stick a Premier Travel Inn in these locations and the same should be true of these houses.[/p][/quote]that is absurd, its money in money out, given the temporary residents don't even pay council tax exactly what kind of money is it bringing to the city? its bringing money to a few nightclubs and a few supermarkets, not exactly lining the pockets of the city while creating nuisance for many. the type of people that own and run these businesses don't live here, more than often they are off with the money to their nice west sussex home away from all the noise they have created. VoodooGangbanger
  • Score: 9

6:12pm Thu 30 Jan 14

clubrob6 says...

Basically if a party house is making life unbearable for people in a residential area the owner of the house who is letting it out should be held responsible for the upset and should face a fine and banned from letting the house out in such a way.Noise is a massive issue in brighton and hove I have moved twice because of it basically greedy landlords have spent minimal money converting houses into studios with zero sound insulation.
Basically if a party house is making life unbearable for people in a residential area the owner of the house who is letting it out should be held responsible for the upset and should face a fine and banned from letting the house out in such a way.Noise is a massive issue in brighton and hove I have moved twice because of it basically greedy landlords have spent minimal money converting houses into studios with zero sound insulation. clubrob6
  • Score: 6

8:10pm Thu 30 Jan 14

jimthedoorman says...

http://www.theargus.
co.uk/news/10458034.
Fine_for_Brighton_mu
sic_fan_after_noise_
warnings_ignored/?re
f=rc

My neighbour, ladies and gentlemen.
http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/10458034. Fine_for_Brighton_mu sic_fan_after_noise_ warnings_ignored/?re f=rc My neighbour, ladies and gentlemen. jimthedoorman
  • Score: 0

8:55am Fri 31 Jan 14

Laneslady says...

I understand that the stags and hens are large contributors to the tourist industry but as a home owner in the north lanes I can completely sympathize with the disruption that is caused. In the 2 years my partner and I have lived on our street the house opposite, one door down and 2 houses diagonally adjacent to ours have become holiday lets. Whilst it has meant that the houses have been well maintained there is constant disruption when they are let to large parties (hens in particular). However as far as I am concerned this is not the only issue. The growing number of holiday houses solely for rental purposes means the sense of community is increasingly at threat as we no longer know who our neighbours are. This I think is the greater shame. I think holiday landlords should be made to apply for a license which would control the number per street distributing them more evenly around the city.
I understand that the stags and hens are large contributors to the tourist industry but as a home owner in the north lanes I can completely sympathize with the disruption that is caused. In the 2 years my partner and I have lived on our street the house opposite, one door down and 2 houses diagonally adjacent to ours have become holiday lets. Whilst it has meant that the houses have been well maintained there is constant disruption when they are let to large parties (hens in particular). However as far as I am concerned this is not the only issue. The growing number of holiday houses solely for rental purposes means the sense of community is increasingly at threat as we no longer know who our neighbours are. This I think is the greater shame. I think holiday landlords should be made to apply for a license which would control the number per street distributing them more evenly around the city. Laneslady
  • Score: 2

12:03pm Fri 31 Jan 14

s&k says...

Why do we need them in the city when we have a proliferation of hotels and B&Bs? Plus all the student population just adds to grief for residents.
Why do we need them in the city when we have a proliferation of hotels and B&Bs? Plus all the student population just adds to grief for residents. s&k
  • Score: 0

1:04pm Fri 31 Jan 14

lowebrighton says...

Sadly the Argus reporter appears to have missed the brilliant first speaker at the scrutiny panel meeting at Hove Town Hall on Wednesday.
She clearly and clinically described how both the community of the small close where she lived and the households close to two party houses were overwhelmed by the impact. Many of the normal weekend activities of families which most of us take for granted such as entertaining friends or family for a meal, having people to stay for the weekend,enjoying the peace of a garden, being fresh for work or school in the morning, being able to relax and rest: all these were gone. Echoing "Laneslady' above she also mentioned the damaging effect on the small community itself. Transience in the ascendant, sense of community in decline.
Other resorts such as Blackpool, Dublin, even Las Vegas have gone down this road and regretted it. The gold standard to be aimed by the council is quality of the town itself: not to play to the lowest commercial denominator. I understand that in some areas of London houses cannot be let for less than three months because of the problems caused by short holiday lets. Life is truly hellish for those put into these situations. Someone, somewhere, probably in planning, needs to be taking this seriously.
Sadly the Argus reporter appears to have missed the brilliant first speaker at the scrutiny panel meeting at Hove Town Hall on Wednesday. She clearly and clinically described how both the community of the small close where she lived and the households close to two party houses were overwhelmed by the impact. Many of the normal weekend activities of families which most of us take for granted such as entertaining friends or family for a meal, having people to stay for the weekend,enjoying the peace of a garden, being fresh for work or school in the morning, being able to relax and rest: all these were gone. Echoing "Laneslady' above she also mentioned the damaging effect on the small community itself. Transience in the ascendant, sense of community in decline. Other resorts such as Blackpool, Dublin, even Las Vegas have gone down this road and regretted it. The gold standard to be aimed by the council is quality of the town itself: not to play to the lowest commercial denominator. I understand that in some areas of London houses cannot be let for less than three months because of the problems caused by short holiday lets. Life is truly hellish for those put into these situations. Someone, somewhere, probably in planning, needs to be taking this seriously. lowebrighton
  • Score: 0

2:45pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Goldenwight says...

Brightonscouse2 wrote:
Goldenwight wrote: I'm obviously missing something important here- what is the significance of the photo of the Volks Railway?
Ilook at the foreground of the picture. It's the people in typical hen & stag regalia that's significant.
I'm guessing that is what the 'Argus' though, too. Surprisingly, people DO get dressed up and go out without going to illegal functions and parties.

Or maybe that is just non-journalists who do that, which is why the editorial staff cannot tell the difference?
[quote][p][bold]Brightonscouse2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: I'm obviously missing something important here- what is the significance of the photo of the Volks Railway?[/p][/quote]Ilook at the foreground of the picture. It's the people in typical hen & stag regalia that's significant.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing that is what the 'Argus' though, too. Surprisingly, people DO get dressed up and go out without going to illegal functions and parties. Or maybe that is just non-journalists who do that, which is why the editorial staff cannot tell the difference? Goldenwight
  • Score: 0

5:26pm Wed 5 Feb 14

mutterful says...

They aren't 'houses' they're businesses and should be subject to planning and licensing conditions, the same as any other business.
Having such a business in a residential area would cause enormous distress for neighbouring families and residents.
They aren't 'houses' they're businesses and should be subject to planning and licensing conditions, the same as any other business. Having such a business in a residential area would cause enormous distress for neighbouring families and residents. mutterful
  • Score: 0

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