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Brighton Pavilion MP secures 100,000 signatures for drug law reform debate

The Argus: Brighton Pavilion Mp secures 100,000 signatures for drug law reform debate Brighton Pavilion Mp secures 100,000 signatures for drug law reform debate

An MP has secured a debate on reforming the country’s drug laws after her campaign gathered more than 100,000 supporters this morning.

Caroline Lucas’s e-petition calling for an independent assessment of the 1971 Misuse of Drugs Act has gained thousands of supporters including Russell Brand and Richard Branson.

With a week to go before the petition expired this Saturday, the Brighton Pavilion MP needed almost 50,000 signatures to force a debate and vote in Parliament and these have flooded in over the past few days.

To sign visit epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/45969.

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1:06pm Thu 13 Feb 14

roystony says...

Awful women!!
Awful women!! roystony
  • Score: -2

1:11pm Thu 13 Feb 14

whatone says...

roystony wrote:
Awful women!!
So nice of you to comment on what you think about the subject of drug laws!
[quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]So nice of you to comment on what you think about the subject of drug laws! whatone
  • Score: -6

1:16pm Thu 13 Feb 14

MarkBrighton says...

roystony wrote:
Awful women!!
Awful English ! It's woman in the singular!

and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.
[quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP. MarkBrighton
  • Score: -5

1:41pm Thu 13 Feb 14

fredflintstone1 says...

MarkBrighton wrote:
roystony wrote:
Awful women!!
Awful English ! It's woman in the singular!

and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.
On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks?

Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.
[quote][p][bold]MarkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.[/p][/quote]On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks? Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested. fredflintstone1
  • Score: 14

1:47pm Thu 13 Feb 14

MarkBrighton says...

fredflintstone1 wrote:
MarkBrighton wrote:
roystony wrote:
Awful women!!
Awful English ! It's woman in the singular!

and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.
On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks?

Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.
Looks like you dont understand the difference between your MP and the Council.

Rubbish collection and city parks are run by the Council.
[quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.[/p][/quote]On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks? Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.[/p][/quote]Looks like you dont understand the difference between your MP and the Council. Rubbish collection and city parks are run by the Council. MarkBrighton
  • Score: 5

1:49pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Andy R says...

fredflintstone1 wrote:
MarkBrighton wrote:
roystony wrote:
Awful women!!
Awful English ! It's woman in the singular!

and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.
On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks?

Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.
Caroline Lucas doesn't run the recycling service. The clue is in the title - MP - Member of Parliament.
[quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.[/p][/quote]On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks? Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.[/p][/quote]Caroline Lucas doesn't run the recycling service. The clue is in the title - MP - Member of Parliament. Andy R
  • Score: 1

2:28pm Thu 13 Feb 14

brightonian1981 says...

fredflintstone1 wrote:
MarkBrighton wrote:
roystony wrote:
Awful women!!
Awful English ! It's woman in the singular!

and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.
On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks?

Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.
Yes it seems you're confusing Local Government with, the Government.

Your comment about endorsing illegal activity is truly inspired, considering the entire purpose and background of the proposal.

Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP and I'll be proudly voting for her in the next general election. You can see a breakdown of just exactly what makes her an excellent MP by looking at just exactly what she has been doing, including her voting record in parliament on They Work For You .com - http://www.theyworkf
oryou.com/mp/24910/c
aroline_lucas/bright
on%2C_pavilion
[quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.[/p][/quote]On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks? Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.[/p][/quote]Yes it seems you're confusing Local Government with, the Government. Your comment about endorsing illegal activity is truly inspired, considering the entire purpose and background of the proposal. Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP and I'll be proudly voting for her in the next general election. You can see a breakdown of just exactly what makes her an excellent MP by looking at just exactly what she has been doing, including her voting record in parliament on They Work For You .com - http://www.theyworkf oryou.com/mp/24910/c aroline_lucas/bright on%2C_pavilion brightonian1981
  • Score: -4

2:36pm Thu 13 Feb 14

winewomenandsong says...

Wonder if Nigella signed on the dotted line?
Wonder if Nigella signed on the dotted line? winewomenandsong
  • Score: 4

2:41pm Thu 13 Feb 14

fredflintstone1 says...

MarkBrighton wrote:
fredflintstone1 wrote:
MarkBrighton wrote:
roystony wrote:
Awful women!!
Awful English ! It's woman in the singular!

and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.
On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks?

Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.
Looks like you dont understand the difference between your MP and the Council.

Rubbish collection and city parks are run by the Council.
Sorry, but you're wrong. It's actually part of an MP's job to address the concerns of her constituents, and that, I'm afraid, does include dealing with the council. This is called casework.

Caroline could also be campaigning nationally to address the situation with travellers pitching up in local parks, disrupting sporting events etc., but she ignores this......

Suggest you check out www.parliament.uk to find out a bit more about what MP should do.
[quote][p][bold]MarkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.[/p][/quote]On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks? Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.[/p][/quote]Looks like you dont understand the difference between your MP and the Council. Rubbish collection and city parks are run by the Council.[/p][/quote]Sorry, but you're wrong. It's actually part of an MP's job to address the concerns of her constituents, and that, I'm afraid, does include dealing with the council. This is called casework. Caroline could also be campaigning nationally to address the situation with travellers pitching up in local parks, disrupting sporting events etc., but she ignores this...... Suggest you check out www.parliament.uk to find out a bit more about what MP should do. fredflintstone1
  • Score: 17

2:42pm Thu 13 Feb 14

fredflintstone1 says...

Andy R wrote:
fredflintstone1 wrote:
MarkBrighton wrote:
roystony wrote:
Awful women!!
Awful English ! It's woman in the singular!

and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.
On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks?

Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.
Caroline Lucas doesn't run the recycling service. The clue is in the title - MP - Member of Parliament.
Who said that she did??
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.[/p][/quote]On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks? Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.[/p][/quote]Caroline Lucas doesn't run the recycling service. The clue is in the title - MP - Member of Parliament.[/p][/quote]Who said that she did?? fredflintstone1
  • Score: 8

3:08pm Thu 13 Feb 14

BiggerH says...

I think she's yummy - but I am a Tolkien fan!
I think she's yummy - but I am a Tolkien fan! BiggerH
  • Score: -3

3:13pm Thu 13 Feb 14

roystony says...

MarkBrighton wrote:
roystony wrote:
Awful women!!
Awful English ! It's woman in the singular!

and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.
Thanks for the correction!!

Awful woman!
[quote][p][bold]MarkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the correction!! Awful woman! roystony
  • Score: 15

3:14pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Bill in Hanover says...

Caroline Lucas was the force behind the Council setting up a 10 man consultitative group (for which we are no doubt still paying for) with a view to setting up 'shooting galleries' in Brighton. The idea was only halted when it was pointed out that they would be in breach of a 1972 law. I imagine that Lucas wants the same law repealed so that her original idea can go ahead. Apparently the number of deaths due to drugs in Brighton has been steadily falling for the last 3 years so why does anything need changing. Shooting galleries would only attract drug dealers and could lead to an increase in drug abuse.
Caroline Lucas was the force behind the Council setting up a 10 man consultitative group (for which we are no doubt still paying for) with a view to setting up 'shooting galleries' in Brighton. The idea was only halted when it was pointed out that they would be in breach of a 1972 law. I imagine that Lucas wants the same law repealed so that her original idea can go ahead. Apparently the number of deaths due to drugs in Brighton has been steadily falling for the last 3 years so why does anything need changing. Shooting galleries would only attract drug dealers and could lead to an increase in drug abuse. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 14

3:15pm Thu 13 Feb 14

roystony says...

whatone wrote:
roystony wrote:
Awful women!!
So nice of you to comment on what you think about the subject of drug laws!
The article is very small and does not give that much insight into the subject. So I can't comment on that.
[quote][p][bold]whatone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]So nice of you to comment on what you think about the subject of drug laws![/p][/quote]The article is very small and does not give that much insight into the subject. So I can't comment on that. roystony
  • Score: 4

3:16pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Bill in Hanover says...

Andy R wrote:
fredflintstone1 wrote:
MarkBrighton wrote:
roystony wrote:
Awful women!!
Awful English ! It's woman in the singular!

and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.
On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks?

Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.
Caroline Lucas doesn't run the recycling service. The clue is in the title - MP - Member of Parliament.
The title is actually MP for Brighton Pavilion so why was she arrested at Balcombe.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.[/p][/quote]On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks? Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.[/p][/quote]Caroline Lucas doesn't run the recycling service. The clue is in the title - MP - Member of Parliament.[/p][/quote]The title is actually MP for Brighton Pavilion so why was she arrested at Balcombe. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 6

3:34pm Thu 13 Feb 14

J_Brightonandhove says...

Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton...

This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.
Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton... This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be. J_Brightonandhove
  • Score: 16

3:45pm Thu 13 Feb 14

nick2702 says...

J_Brightonandhove wrote:
Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton...

This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.
Portugal have decriminalised all drugs, drug use has decreased, drug-related crime has decreased, drug-related illnesses have decreased.

Colorado have recently legalised and regulated cannabis - taking millions out of the hands of criminals already, and the taxes from the sales are now going towards schools.

But hey, let's not let facts get in the way of hysterical nonsense, eh?
[quote][p][bold]J_Brightonandhove[/bold] wrote: Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton... This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.[/p][/quote]Portugal have decriminalised all drugs, drug use has decreased, drug-related crime has decreased, drug-related illnesses have decreased. Colorado have recently legalised and regulated cannabis - taking millions out of the hands of criminals already, and the taxes from the sales are now going towards schools. But hey, let's not let facts get in the way of hysterical nonsense, eh? nick2702
  • Score: -8

3:53pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Dealing with idiots says...

brightonian1981 wrote:
fredflintstone1 wrote:
MarkBrighton wrote:
roystony wrote: Awful women!!
Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.
On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks? Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.
Yes it seems you're confusing Local Government with, the Government. Your comment about endorsing illegal activity is truly inspired, considering the entire purpose and background of the proposal. Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP and I'll be proudly voting for her in the next general election. You can see a breakdown of just exactly what makes her an excellent MP by looking at just exactly what she has been doing, including her voting record in parliament on They Work For You .com - http://www.theyworkf oryou.com/mp/24910/c aroline_lucas/bright on%2C_pavilion
You mean Caroline inhaled?
[quote][p][bold]brightonian1981[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.[/p][/quote]On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks? Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.[/p][/quote]Yes it seems you're confusing Local Government with, the Government. Your comment about endorsing illegal activity is truly inspired, considering the entire purpose and background of the proposal. Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP and I'll be proudly voting for her in the next general election. You can see a breakdown of just exactly what makes her an excellent MP by looking at just exactly what she has been doing, including her voting record in parliament on They Work For You .com - http://www.theyworkf oryou.com/mp/24910/c aroline_lucas/bright on%2C_pavilion[/p][/quote]You mean Caroline inhaled? Dealing with idiots
  • Score: 8

4:35pm Thu 13 Feb 14

J_Brightonandhove says...

nick2702 wrote:
J_Brightonandhove wrote:
Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton...

This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.
Portugal have decriminalised all drugs, drug use has decreased, drug-related crime has decreased, drug-related illnesses have decreased.

Colorado have recently legalised and regulated cannabis - taking millions out of the hands of criminals already, and the taxes from the sales are now going towards schools.

But hey, let's not let facts get in the way of hysterical nonsense, eh?
Funny you should mention Portugal Nick. Last year I went to Lisbon on holiday with a group of mates and on the main street, filled with families and children, we were consistently being offered Cocaine and Hash and I mean every 20 yards or so.

Asking cab drivers and people at our hotel they blamed the Government and said that drugs are now freely offered by dealers in all the main tourist locations which was putting tourists off visiting again. It certainly put me off.

So make of that what you will, I for one don't want drugs freely being used and available anywhere around me.

If you enjoy it, please head to Portugal?
[quote][p][bold]nick2702[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J_Brightonandhove[/bold] wrote: Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton... This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.[/p][/quote]Portugal have decriminalised all drugs, drug use has decreased, drug-related crime has decreased, drug-related illnesses have decreased. Colorado have recently legalised and regulated cannabis - taking millions out of the hands of criminals already, and the taxes from the sales are now going towards schools. But hey, let's not let facts get in the way of hysterical nonsense, eh?[/p][/quote]Funny you should mention Portugal Nick. Last year I went to Lisbon on holiday with a group of mates and on the main street, filled with families and children, we were consistently being offered Cocaine and Hash and I mean every 20 yards or so. Asking cab drivers and people at our hotel they blamed the Government and said that drugs are now freely offered by dealers in all the main tourist locations which was putting tourists off visiting again. It certainly put me off. So make of that what you will, I for one don't want drugs freely being used and available anywhere around me. If you enjoy it, please head to Portugal? J_Brightonandhove
  • Score: 13

4:37pm Thu 13 Feb 14

J_Brightonandhove says...

What you don't seem to realise Nick is that the theory might be drug use will fall but people will still sell it, and worse than this, freely sell it.

Do you honestly want our streets littered with people offering drugs because they can still make a bit of cash out of it?
What you don't seem to realise Nick is that the theory might be drug use will fall but people will still sell it, and worse than this, freely sell it. Do you honestly want our streets littered with people offering drugs because they can still make a bit of cash out of it? J_Brightonandhove
  • Score: 9

4:46pm Thu 13 Feb 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

J_Brightonandhove wrote:
Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton...

This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.
Legalising drugs would save an awful lot of money in prosecutions and put dealers out of business. Plus heroin addicts etc will beg and steal to support their habit. The money could then be spent on rehabilitation. Ok it is a sensitive subject, but let's face it - prohibition has not worked. I think it is sensible to look at other countries, such as the US where they have decriminilised cannabis for personal use. It seems ironic we sell 'legal highs' in shops which are far more dangerous than the real thing!

As for shooting galleries - do you prefer people shooting up in the streets and potentially leaving dirty needles where you may step on them or worse?
[quote][p][bold]J_Brightonandhove[/bold] wrote: Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton... This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.[/p][/quote]Legalising drugs would save an awful lot of money in prosecutions and put dealers out of business. Plus heroin addicts etc will beg and steal to support their habit. The money could then be spent on rehabilitation. Ok it is a sensitive subject, but let's face it - prohibition has not worked. I think it is sensible to look at other countries, such as the US where they have decriminilised cannabis for personal use. It seems ironic we sell 'legal highs' in shops which are far more dangerous than the real thing! As for shooting galleries - do you prefer people shooting up in the streets and potentially leaving dirty needles where you may step on them or worse? thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: -5

5:17pm Thu 13 Feb 14

J_Brightonandhove says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
J_Brightonandhove wrote:
Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton...

This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.
Legalising drugs would save an awful lot of money in prosecutions and put dealers out of business. Plus heroin addicts etc will beg and steal to support their habit. The money could then be spent on rehabilitation. Ok it is a sensitive subject, but let's face it - prohibition has not worked. I think it is sensible to look at other countries, such as the US where they have decriminilised cannabis for personal use. It seems ironic we sell 'legal highs' in shops which are far more dangerous than the real thing!

As for shooting galleries - do you prefer people shooting up in the streets and potentially leaving dirty needles where you may step on them or worse?
Voice of truth: -

Let me ask you, what if a shooting gallery was put a few doors down from you? Would you be happy with endless junkies visiting your area for one purpose?

Would you want your children walking to school through an area where addicts are freely on the way to shoot up or are leaving these 'galleries' on a massive high where they aren't in control of their actions?

And as for prohibition, we don't even have it! We need tougher laws on drugs, serious consequences for all uses of it. Countries in the far east have the right idea which is why the public are terrified of the consequences or buying and using drugs.

The legal highs issue is completely separate and I agree these need to be eradicated. But realistically, by opening up these shooting galleries, we're essentially inviting junkies from round the UK down to Brighton. Awful for the local community and our reputation as a tourist resort. I certainly wouldn't want to take my family to a place where high numbers of junkies roam the streets
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J_Brightonandhove[/bold] wrote: Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton... This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.[/p][/quote]Legalising drugs would save an awful lot of money in prosecutions and put dealers out of business. Plus heroin addicts etc will beg and steal to support their habit. The money could then be spent on rehabilitation. Ok it is a sensitive subject, but let's face it - prohibition has not worked. I think it is sensible to look at other countries, such as the US where they have decriminilised cannabis for personal use. It seems ironic we sell 'legal highs' in shops which are far more dangerous than the real thing! As for shooting galleries - do you prefer people shooting up in the streets and potentially leaving dirty needles where you may step on them or worse?[/p][/quote]Voice of truth: - Let me ask you, what if a shooting gallery was put a few doors down from you? Would you be happy with endless junkies visiting your area for one purpose? Would you want your children walking to school through an area where addicts are freely on the way to shoot up or are leaving these 'galleries' on a massive high where they aren't in control of their actions? And as for prohibition, we don't even have it! We need tougher laws on drugs, serious consequences for all uses of it. Countries in the far east have the right idea which is why the public are terrified of the consequences or buying and using drugs. The legal highs issue is completely separate and I agree these need to be eradicated. But realistically, by opening up these shooting galleries, we're essentially inviting junkies from round the UK down to Brighton. Awful for the local community and our reputation as a tourist resort. I certainly wouldn't want to take my family to a place where high numbers of junkies roam the streets J_Brightonandhove
  • Score: 6

5:42pm Thu 13 Feb 14

ronrostog says...

J_Brightonandhove wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
J_Brightonandhove wrote: Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton... This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.
Legalising drugs would save an awful lot of money in prosecutions and put dealers out of business. Plus heroin addicts etc will beg and steal to support their habit. The money could then be spent on rehabilitation. Ok it is a sensitive subject, but let's face it - prohibition has not worked. I think it is sensible to look at other countries, such as the US where they have decriminilised cannabis for personal use. It seems ironic we sell 'legal highs' in shops which are far more dangerous than the real thing! As for shooting galleries - do you prefer people shooting up in the streets and potentially leaving dirty needles where you may step on them or worse?
Voice of truth: - Let me ask you, what if a shooting gallery was put a few doors down from you? Would you be happy with endless junkies visiting your area for one purpose? Would you want your children walking to school through an area where addicts are freely on the way to shoot up or are leaving these 'galleries' on a massive high where they aren't in control of their actions? And as for prohibition, we don't even have it! We need tougher laws on drugs, serious consequences for all uses of it. Countries in the far east have the right idea which is why the public are terrified of the consequences or buying and using drugs. The legal highs issue is completely separate and I agree these need to be eradicated. But realistically, by opening up these shooting galleries, we're essentially inviting junkies from round the UK down to Brighton. Awful for the local community and our reputation as a tourist resort. I certainly wouldn't want to take my family to a place where high numbers of junkies roam the streets
'Do you know who I am?' she is said to have told the police when in the van after her arrest at Balcombe. 'Yes Caroline' they should have responded, 'You are an immature, overgrown student. Now shut your fruitcakehole.' I can't be arsed to post in length on these boards on this issue, been there, done that but J_Brightonandhove, you are doing an admirable job of putting similar views across. Well done.
[quote][p][bold]J_Brightonandhove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J_Brightonandhove[/bold] wrote: Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton... This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.[/p][/quote]Legalising drugs would save an awful lot of money in prosecutions and put dealers out of business. Plus heroin addicts etc will beg and steal to support their habit. The money could then be spent on rehabilitation. Ok it is a sensitive subject, but let's face it - prohibition has not worked. I think it is sensible to look at other countries, such as the US where they have decriminilised cannabis for personal use. It seems ironic we sell 'legal highs' in shops which are far more dangerous than the real thing! As for shooting galleries - do you prefer people shooting up in the streets and potentially leaving dirty needles where you may step on them or worse?[/p][/quote]Voice of truth: - Let me ask you, what if a shooting gallery was put a few doors down from you? Would you be happy with endless junkies visiting your area for one purpose? Would you want your children walking to school through an area where addicts are freely on the way to shoot up or are leaving these 'galleries' on a massive high where they aren't in control of their actions? And as for prohibition, we don't even have it! We need tougher laws on drugs, serious consequences for all uses of it. Countries in the far east have the right idea which is why the public are terrified of the consequences or buying and using drugs. The legal highs issue is completely separate and I agree these need to be eradicated. But realistically, by opening up these shooting galleries, we're essentially inviting junkies from round the UK down to Brighton. Awful for the local community and our reputation as a tourist resort. I certainly wouldn't want to take my family to a place where high numbers of junkies roam the streets[/p][/quote]'Do you know who I am?' she is said to have told the police when in the van after her arrest at Balcombe. 'Yes Caroline' they should have responded, 'You are an immature, overgrown student. Now shut your fruitcakehole.' I can't be arsed to post in length on these boards on this issue, been there, done that but J_Brightonandhove, you are doing an admirable job of putting similar views across. Well done. ronrostog
  • Score: 11

5:56pm Thu 13 Feb 14

HJarrs says...

ronrostog wrote:
J_Brightonandhove wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
J_Brightonandhove wrote: Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton... This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.
Legalising drugs would save an awful lot of money in prosecutions and put dealers out of business. Plus heroin addicts etc will beg and steal to support their habit. The money could then be spent on rehabilitation. Ok it is a sensitive subject, but let's face it - prohibition has not worked. I think it is sensible to look at other countries, such as the US where they have decriminilised cannabis for personal use. It seems ironic we sell 'legal highs' in shops which are far more dangerous than the real thing! As for shooting galleries - do you prefer people shooting up in the streets and potentially leaving dirty needles where you may step on them or worse?
Voice of truth: - Let me ask you, what if a shooting gallery was put a few doors down from you? Would you be happy with endless junkies visiting your area for one purpose? Would you want your children walking to school through an area where addicts are freely on the way to shoot up or are leaving these 'galleries' on a massive high where they aren't in control of their actions? And as for prohibition, we don't even have it! We need tougher laws on drugs, serious consequences for all uses of it. Countries in the far east have the right idea which is why the public are terrified of the consequences or buying and using drugs. The legal highs issue is completely separate and I agree these need to be eradicated. But realistically, by opening up these shooting galleries, we're essentially inviting junkies from round the UK down to Brighton. Awful for the local community and our reputation as a tourist resort. I certainly wouldn't want to take my family to a place where high numbers of junkies roam the streets
'Do you know who I am?' she is said to have told the police when in the van after her arrest at Balcombe. 'Yes Caroline' they should have responded, 'You are an immature, overgrown student. Now shut your fruitcakehole.' I can't be arsed to post in length on these boards on this issue, been there, done that but J_Brightonandhove, you are doing an admirable job of putting similar views across. Well done.
They are doing a rubbish job! We are where we are despite the criminal prohibition of drugs. Pouring billions of pounds into into enforcement and the pockets of criminals.

I have lived close to a "shooting gallery" in Brighton, from my window I could watch the deals being made, the junkies then disappearing nearby up alleyways and behind trees and bushes to shoot up. Families passed by this all the time! Nobody would want a "shooting gallery" next door, but it is a far better solution than the mess we have today, where the shooting gallery is the street.
[quote][p][bold]ronrostog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J_Brightonandhove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J_Brightonandhove[/bold] wrote: Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton... This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.[/p][/quote]Legalising drugs would save an awful lot of money in prosecutions and put dealers out of business. Plus heroin addicts etc will beg and steal to support their habit. The money could then be spent on rehabilitation. Ok it is a sensitive subject, but let's face it - prohibition has not worked. I think it is sensible to look at other countries, such as the US where they have decriminilised cannabis for personal use. It seems ironic we sell 'legal highs' in shops which are far more dangerous than the real thing! As for shooting galleries - do you prefer people shooting up in the streets and potentially leaving dirty needles where you may step on them or worse?[/p][/quote]Voice of truth: - Let me ask you, what if a shooting gallery was put a few doors down from you? Would you be happy with endless junkies visiting your area for one purpose? Would you want your children walking to school through an area where addicts are freely on the way to shoot up or are leaving these 'galleries' on a massive high where they aren't in control of their actions? And as for prohibition, we don't even have it! We need tougher laws on drugs, serious consequences for all uses of it. Countries in the far east have the right idea which is why the public are terrified of the consequences or buying and using drugs. The legal highs issue is completely separate and I agree these need to be eradicated. But realistically, by opening up these shooting galleries, we're essentially inviting junkies from round the UK down to Brighton. Awful for the local community and our reputation as a tourist resort. I certainly wouldn't want to take my family to a place where high numbers of junkies roam the streets[/p][/quote]'Do you know who I am?' she is said to have told the police when in the van after her arrest at Balcombe. 'Yes Caroline' they should have responded, 'You are an immature, overgrown student. Now shut your fruitcakehole.' I can't be arsed to post in length on these boards on this issue, been there, done that but J_Brightonandhove, you are doing an admirable job of putting similar views across. Well done.[/p][/quote]They are doing a rubbish job! We are where we are despite the criminal prohibition of drugs. Pouring billions of pounds into into enforcement and the pockets of criminals. I have lived close to a "shooting gallery" in Brighton, from my window I could watch the deals being made, the junkies then disappearing nearby up alleyways and behind trees and bushes to shoot up. Families passed by this all the time! Nobody would want a "shooting gallery" next door, but it is a far better solution than the mess we have today, where the shooting gallery is the street. HJarrs
  • Score: -8

6:14pm Thu 13 Feb 14

J_Brightonandhove says...

HJarrs wrote:
ronrostog wrote:
J_Brightonandhove wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
J_Brightonandhove wrote: Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton... This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.
Legalising drugs would save an awful lot of money in prosecutions and put dealers out of business. Plus heroin addicts etc will beg and steal to support their habit. The money could then be spent on rehabilitation. Ok it is a sensitive subject, but let's face it - prohibition has not worked. I think it is sensible to look at other countries, such as the US where they have decriminilised cannabis for personal use. It seems ironic we sell 'legal highs' in shops which are far more dangerous than the real thing! As for shooting galleries - do you prefer people shooting up in the streets and potentially leaving dirty needles where you may step on them or worse?
Voice of truth: - Let me ask you, what if a shooting gallery was put a few doors down from you? Would you be happy with endless junkies visiting your area for one purpose? Would you want your children walking to school through an area where addicts are freely on the way to shoot up or are leaving these 'galleries' on a massive high where they aren't in control of their actions? And as for prohibition, we don't even have it! We need tougher laws on drugs, serious consequences for all uses of it. Countries in the far east have the right idea which is why the public are terrified of the consequences or buying and using drugs. The legal highs issue is completely separate and I agree these need to be eradicated. But realistically, by opening up these shooting galleries, we're essentially inviting junkies from round the UK down to Brighton. Awful for the local community and our reputation as a tourist resort. I certainly wouldn't want to take my family to a place where high numbers of junkies roam the streets
'Do you know who I am?' she is said to have told the police when in the van after her arrest at Balcombe. 'Yes Caroline' they should have responded, 'You are an immature, overgrown student. Now shut your fruitcakehole.' I can't be arsed to post in length on these boards on this issue, been there, done that but J_Brightonandhove, you are doing an admirable job of putting similar views across. Well done.
They are doing a rubbish job! We are where we are despite the criminal prohibition of drugs. Pouring billions of pounds into into enforcement and the pockets of criminals.

I have lived close to a "shooting gallery" in Brighton, from my window I could watch the deals being made, the junkies then disappearing nearby up alleyways and behind trees and bushes to shoot up. Families passed by this all the time! Nobody would want a "shooting gallery" next door, but it is a far better solution than the mess we have today, where the shooting gallery is the street.
HJarrs: -

Read your comment again and see the utter madness you've written. You honestly think its acceptable to witness deals being made? Junkies disappearing to shoot up? Families witnessing this? Why on earth do you think thats a solution?

How about the police take a stance, arrest and seriously punish those doing it! We tolerate far too much in this country and the fact that you think that what you described is a 'solution' to drugs is astounding. I'm not once saying drugs aren't a problem, its the soft stance we have on them.

You honestly want the junkies of the UK coming down to Brighton to shoot up in our town? Attracting dealers who claim to be selling 'purer' versions of the drugs that the junkies are getting at these galleries? Because thats what'll happen! Dealers know Brighton are full of addicts, they'll bring new experimental drugs, new purer drugs etc and so the cycle will start again.

So we'll have a situation where these galleries have to offer better quality heroin or crack than the dealers to stop the junkies buying off them. It creates a free market in drugs in our home town!

This is absolute left wing madness.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronrostog[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J_Brightonandhove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]J_Brightonandhove[/bold] wrote: Brilliant. Rather than take a tough stance against drugs and focus energy and money on stopping the production and dealers who blight so many lives, lets LEGALISE people taking drugs. Lets make Brighton a place where drug addicts from all over the land can come and shoot up. I'm sure they wouldn't stick around Brighton... This woman is disgraceful. And those who are for these 'shooting galleries' I'd love to see your opinion if one opened up down the road from where you live. It would immediately make sections of Brighton the most undesirable places to be.[/p][/quote]Legalising drugs would save an awful lot of money in prosecutions and put dealers out of business. Plus heroin addicts etc will beg and steal to support their habit. The money could then be spent on rehabilitation. Ok it is a sensitive subject, but let's face it - prohibition has not worked. I think it is sensible to look at other countries, such as the US where they have decriminilised cannabis for personal use. It seems ironic we sell 'legal highs' in shops which are far more dangerous than the real thing! As for shooting galleries - do you prefer people shooting up in the streets and potentially leaving dirty needles where you may step on them or worse?[/p][/quote]Voice of truth: - Let me ask you, what if a shooting gallery was put a few doors down from you? Would you be happy with endless junkies visiting your area for one purpose? Would you want your children walking to school through an area where addicts are freely on the way to shoot up or are leaving these 'galleries' on a massive high where they aren't in control of their actions? And as for prohibition, we don't even have it! We need tougher laws on drugs, serious consequences for all uses of it. Countries in the far east have the right idea which is why the public are terrified of the consequences or buying and using drugs. The legal highs issue is completely separate and I agree these need to be eradicated. But realistically, by opening up these shooting galleries, we're essentially inviting junkies from round the UK down to Brighton. Awful for the local community and our reputation as a tourist resort. I certainly wouldn't want to take my family to a place where high numbers of junkies roam the streets[/p][/quote]'Do you know who I am?' she is said to have told the police when in the van after her arrest at Balcombe. 'Yes Caroline' they should have responded, 'You are an immature, overgrown student. Now shut your fruitcakehole.' I can't be arsed to post in length on these boards on this issue, been there, done that but J_Brightonandhove, you are doing an admirable job of putting similar views across. Well done.[/p][/quote]They are doing a rubbish job! We are where we are despite the criminal prohibition of drugs. Pouring billions of pounds into into enforcement and the pockets of criminals. I have lived close to a "shooting gallery" in Brighton, from my window I could watch the deals being made, the junkies then disappearing nearby up alleyways and behind trees and bushes to shoot up. Families passed by this all the time! Nobody would want a "shooting gallery" next door, but it is a far better solution than the mess we have today, where the shooting gallery is the street.[/p][/quote]HJarrs: - Read your comment again and see the utter madness you've written. You honestly think its acceptable to witness deals being made? Junkies disappearing to shoot up? Families witnessing this? Why on earth do you think thats a solution? How about the police take a stance, arrest and seriously punish those doing it! We tolerate far too much in this country and the fact that you think that what you described is a 'solution' to drugs is astounding. I'm not once saying drugs aren't a problem, its the soft stance we have on them. You honestly want the junkies of the UK coming down to Brighton to shoot up in our town? Attracting dealers who claim to be selling 'purer' versions of the drugs that the junkies are getting at these galleries? Because thats what'll happen! Dealers know Brighton are full of addicts, they'll bring new experimental drugs, new purer drugs etc and so the cycle will start again. So we'll have a situation where these galleries have to offer better quality heroin or crack than the dealers to stop the junkies buying off them. It creates a free market in drugs in our home town! This is absolute left wing madness. J_Brightonandhove
  • Score: 11

7:16pm Thu 13 Feb 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

Ah, I do see the point now with the shooting galleries. I assumed they were a safe place to go to get clean needles and shoot up, but that they weren't actually given the drugs to take. Yeah, I can see that going a bit downhill if they are offering free heroin. But it would stop people ODing.

I would like to see more spent on rehabilitation and education and less spent on prosecution. Anyone can be affected by addiction. There are loads of people addicted to prescription drugs. Some illegal drugs are less dangerous than legal ones. There is no logic to it.
Ah, I do see the point now with the shooting galleries. I assumed they were a safe place to go to get clean needles and shoot up, but that they weren't actually given the drugs to take. Yeah, I can see that going a bit downhill if they are offering free heroin. But it would stop people ODing. I would like to see more spent on rehabilitation and education and less spent on prosecution. Anyone can be affected by addiction. There are loads of people addicted to prescription drugs. Some illegal drugs are less dangerous than legal ones. There is no logic to it. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: -8

7:49pm Thu 13 Feb 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

She's a member of parliament for Brighton Pavilion. She lobbies to remove Page 3 girls from The Sun and to stop fracking in Balcombe.
Important issues if you are so rich nothing of any real importance occupies your mind.
She's a member of parliament for Brighton Pavilion. She lobbies to remove Page 3 girls from The Sun and to stop fracking in Balcombe. Important issues if you are so rich nothing of any real importance occupies your mind. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 6

8:29pm Thu 13 Feb 14

JHunty says...

MarkBrighton wrote:
fredflintstone1 wrote:
MarkBrighton wrote:
roystony wrote:
Awful women!!
Awful English ! It's woman in the singular!

and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.
On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks?

Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.
Looks like you dont understand the difference between your MP and the Council.

Rubbish collection and city parks are run by the Council.
So why was she on the picket line during the bin strike if rubbish collection is nothing to do with her?
[quote][p][bold]MarkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.[/p][/quote]On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks? Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.[/p][/quote]Looks like you dont understand the difference between your MP and the Council. Rubbish collection and city parks are run by the Council.[/p][/quote]So why was she on the picket line during the bin strike if rubbish collection is nothing to do with her? JHunty
  • Score: 8

8:32pm Thu 13 Feb 14

JHunty says...

Dealing with idiots wrote:
brightonian1981 wrote:
fredflintstone1 wrote:
MarkBrighton wrote:
roystony wrote: Awful women!!
Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.
On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks? Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.
Yes it seems you're confusing Local Government with, the Government. Your comment about endorsing illegal activity is truly inspired, considering the entire purpose and background of the proposal. Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP and I'll be proudly voting for her in the next general election. You can see a breakdown of just exactly what makes her an excellent MP by looking at just exactly what she has been doing, including her voting record in parliament on They Work For You .com - http://www.theyworkf oryou.com/mp/24910/c aroline_lucas/bright on%2C_pavilion
You mean Caroline inhaled?
What's her voting record got to do with showing her to be an excellent mp? So she voted for a load of stuff other mps proposed. What has she actually managed to do? Apart from get arrested?
[quote][p][bold]Dealing with idiots[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonian1981[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.[/p][/quote]On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks? Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.[/p][/quote]Yes it seems you're confusing Local Government with, the Government. Your comment about endorsing illegal activity is truly inspired, considering the entire purpose and background of the proposal. Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP and I'll be proudly voting for her in the next general election. You can see a breakdown of just exactly what makes her an excellent MP by looking at just exactly what she has been doing, including her voting record in parliament on They Work For You .com - http://www.theyworkf oryou.com/mp/24910/c aroline_lucas/bright on%2C_pavilion[/p][/quote]You mean Caroline inhaled?[/p][/quote]What's her voting record got to do with showing her to be an excellent mp? So she voted for a load of stuff other mps proposed. What has she actually managed to do? Apart from get arrested? JHunty
  • Score: 7

8:40pm Thu 13 Feb 14

JHunty says...

Andy R wrote:
fredflintstone1 wrote:
MarkBrighton wrote:
roystony wrote:
Awful women!!
Awful English ! It's woman in the singular!

and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.
On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks?

Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.
Caroline Lucas doesn't run the recycling service. The clue is in the title - MP - Member of Parliament.
And as if by magic St Caroline's white knight comes charging in on his white horse. I'll type slowly so you can follow what I'm saying, Caroline started by claiming she wouldn't involve herself in issues of local governance, then as per usual, did the opposite and turned up on picket lines one minute, then jumping ship to the other side and was seen picking up litter in Hanover until her union chums pointed out she was undermining the strike.
A headless chicken, blown this way and that by whichever current of public opinion she thinks might further her career. It should never be forgotten it took her over six months to actually move to England because her little darlings needed to finish their private education. She still doesn't live in Brighton, we are just a stepping stone for her.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MarkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roystony[/bold] wrote: Awful women!![/p][/quote]Awful English ! It's woman in the singular! and actually Caroline Lucas is an excellent MP.[/p][/quote]On what basis? Self-promotion? Or representing the majority of her constituents and dealing with their concerns? Perhaps she could start by arranging for my recycling to be picked up regularly, and address the issue of travellers blighting the city's parks? Unfortunately, she always seems to prefer to endorse illegal activity though, even to the point of managing to get herself arrested.[/p][/quote]Caroline Lucas doesn't run the recycling service. The clue is in the title - MP - Member of Parliament.[/p][/quote]And as if by magic St Caroline's white knight comes charging in on his white horse. I'll type slowly so you can follow what I'm saying, Caroline started by claiming she wouldn't involve herself in issues of local governance, then as per usual, did the opposite and turned up on picket lines one minute, then jumping ship to the other side and was seen picking up litter in Hanover until her union chums pointed out she was undermining the strike. A headless chicken, blown this way and that by whichever current of public opinion she thinks might further her career. It should never be forgotten it took her over six months to actually move to England because her little darlings needed to finish their private education. She still doesn't live in Brighton, we are just a stepping stone for her. JHunty
  • Score: 6

11:43pm Thu 13 Feb 14

We are the 99% says...

The Greens are so barking, they'd legalize the smoking of anthrax if they thought they could get away with it!
The Greens are so barking, they'd legalize the smoking of anthrax if they thought they could get away with it! We are the 99%
  • Score: 4

7:05am Fri 14 Feb 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

My wife bought a flat when she was young and single. The council bought a number of flats in the same private block. A man lives above her who has a mental health history and is admitted to hospital regularly. He is also a crack and heroin user and smokes skunk.
His home is a shooting gallery. He has groups of men there who arrive at all hours, the music goes on, they drink cans of beer and throw them out of the window, they knock on doors asking for change for phone boxes and cabs, there are spliff butts everywhere. My wife cannot sell the flat and cannot rent it due to the anti social behaviour.
The council says its his home. The community psychiatric nurse has to be phoned regularly to let him know his client is becoming unwell and needs admission to hospital.
If you think a shooting gallery will be some sort of clinic like a diabetes clinic you are wrong. Many users have mental health issues, anti social behaviour issues and dual addictions. If you think nurses are going to manage the anti social problems thinks again.
Such a centre would need community police presence all the time otherwise it would be like the hostel in the Steine where the police and ambulance services are continually visiting and where the residents often spill out into the streets causing mayhem.
These ideas are always the dreamy ideas of middle class people who have never lived in rough areas or grown up near users and boozers.
If Caroline wants it, I suggests she puts her money where her mouth is and rent a venue next to her permanent home and open such a place.
My wife bought a flat when she was young and single. The council bought a number of flats in the same private block. A man lives above her who has a mental health history and is admitted to hospital regularly. He is also a crack and heroin user and smokes skunk. His home is a shooting gallery. He has groups of men there who arrive at all hours, the music goes on, they drink cans of beer and throw them out of the window, they knock on doors asking for change for phone boxes and cabs, there are spliff butts everywhere. My wife cannot sell the flat and cannot rent it due to the anti social behaviour. The council says its his home. The community psychiatric nurse has to be phoned regularly to let him know his client is becoming unwell and needs admission to hospital. If you think a shooting gallery will be some sort of clinic like a diabetes clinic you are wrong. Many users have mental health issues, anti social behaviour issues and dual addictions. If you think nurses are going to manage the anti social problems thinks again. Such a centre would need community police presence all the time otherwise it would be like the hostel in the Steine where the police and ambulance services are continually visiting and where the residents often spill out into the streets causing mayhem. These ideas are always the dreamy ideas of middle class people who have never lived in rough areas or grown up near users and boozers. If Caroline wants it, I suggests she puts her money where her mouth is and rent a venue next to her permanent home and open such a place. Maxwell's Ghost
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10:47am Tue 18 Feb 14

brightonian1981 says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
She's a member of parliament for Brighton Pavilion. She lobbies to remove Page 3 girls from The Sun and to stop fracking in Balcombe.
Important issues if you are so rich nothing of any real importance occupies your mind.
Really nice to see someone show such utter disregard for both sexism against women, and the future of energy production relating to climate change.
Sure — issues for the rich.
Issues that affect not only 51% of the population, but also the entire planet. Great work there.

I would love some of you to name an example of any of other MP being arrested over an issue which is such a fundamental part of their party's existence.
You're actually angry at an MP being arrested for standing up against something which opposes the very core of their political party and everything they stand for. To the extent whereby if, with their role in government, they would be doing their party, and the constituents who voted for them, a disservice if they didn't have involvement on the matter.

An MP actually standing by their beliefs? Someone with principles?

Sure, let's all be outraged by that shall we. Sex scandals, expense scandals, fraud are far too commonplace the the world of MPs to be bothered by - let's moan about the MPs who are not lying scumbags.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: She's a member of parliament for Brighton Pavilion. She lobbies to remove Page 3 girls from The Sun and to stop fracking in Balcombe. Important issues if you are so rich nothing of any real importance occupies your mind.[/p][/quote]Really nice to see someone show such utter disregard for both sexism against women, and the future of energy production relating to climate change. Sure — issues for the rich. Issues that affect not only 51% of the population, but also the entire planet. Great work there. I would love some of you to name an example of any of other MP being arrested over an issue which is such a fundamental part of their party's existence. You're actually angry at an MP being arrested for standing up against something which opposes the very core of their political party and everything they stand for. To the extent whereby if, with their role in government, they would be doing their party, and the constituents who voted for them, a disservice if they didn't have involvement on the matter. An MP actually standing by their beliefs? Someone with principles? Sure, let's all be outraged by that shall we. Sex scandals, expense scandals, fraud are far too commonplace the the world of MPs to be bothered by - let's moan about the MPs who are not lying scumbags. brightonian1981
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