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Protesters disrupt West Sussex County Council budget meeting as cuts agreed

The Argus: Protesters disrupt council budget meeting as cuts agreed Protesters disrupt council budget meeting as cuts agreed

Angry protesters brought West Sussex County Council’s budget meeting to a standstill.

Members of the campaign group Don’t Cut Us Out disrupted the full council meeting yesterday, which they dubbed the “Valentine’s Day Massacre” over the budget cuts which will result from the agreed council tax freeze.

Protesters had gathered outside county hall in Chichester to demonstrate against the 2014 to 2015 budget, which will reduce spending by £55 million over the next two years.

Chairwoman Amanda Jupp was forced to adjourn the meeting due to the shouting and heckling from the public gallery and some Conservative councillors walked out.

There were tears as protesters voiced their concerns about the budget to those councillors who remained.

After ten minutes the councillors returned and the meeting continued with council leader Louise Goldsmith calling the budget “sound, traditional and practical”.

She said: “We have to balance our revenue budget just as a household has to balance its monthly expenditure against its monthly income.”

Labour leader Brenda Smith abandoned her speech to express her disapproval of the Tory walk-out.

She said: “I’m ashamed to be in this chamber. I was really upset that people who have taken the trouble to come here in the most appalling weather outside County Hall, to speak to us as elected members, have not been listened to.”

Conservative councillors, who hold a majority, were also criticised by Labour councillor Chris Oxlade.

He said: “It was really horrible to see you lot going out and having tea and biscuits while people sat up there crying “ Ms Goldsmith furiously rebuffed claims they had been uncaring.

She said: “We do care. We care by being practical and thoughtful, and thoughtful of the taxpayer’s money.”

The budget was voted in by 42 votes to 15 with 10 abstentions.

Campaigner Barry Pickthall, 64, of Walberton, whose son has Down’s Syndrome and has seen the cost of his care rise by £25 a week, said: “Most of the conservatives traipsed out, but the others stayed in and listened, and this then formed a major part of the debate.

“We’ve just got to get people to understand what this council is doing. They just don’t care, full stop. Not just about us, but about the vulnerable either.”

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11:27am Sat 15 Feb 14

ourcoalition says...

Usual disgusting behaviour by the Tories - they have been doing this since 1974 - I was evicted from East Sussex County Councils meeting, as they cut Learning Disability services - one of the Tory Councillors own daughter was in a Council home, and he still voted for the cuts.

No shame, no care, and no conscience! Then or now!
Usual disgusting behaviour by the Tories - they have been doing this since 1974 - I was evicted from East Sussex County Councils meeting, as they cut Learning Disability services - one of the Tory Councillors own daughter was in a Council home, and he still voted for the cuts. No shame, no care, and no conscience! Then or now! ourcoalition
  • Score: 1

11:54am Sat 15 Feb 14

RottingdeanRant says...

As with B&H I wonder why the council appear to target the more important services such as care for the vulnerable instead of cutting elsewhere.
As with B&H I wonder why the council appear to target the more important services such as care for the vulnerable instead of cutting elsewhere. RottingdeanRant
  • Score: 8

1:03pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Gribbet says...

Meanwhile in Brighton, our opposition councillors have cleverly stirred up enough blinding anti-green fervour to convince the townsfolk that everything will be just rosy when the cuts kick in.
Meanwhile in Brighton, our opposition councillors have cleverly stirred up enough blinding anti-green fervour to convince the townsfolk that everything will be just rosy when the cuts kick in. Gribbet
  • Score: -4

1:06pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Fight_Back says...

Gribbet wrote:
Meanwhile in Brighton, our opposition councillors have cleverly stirred up enough blinding anti-green fervour to convince the townsfolk that everything will be just rosy when the cuts kick in.
I hate to point it out to you but the Greens have done that themselves without any assistance from the opposition parties.
[quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: Meanwhile in Brighton, our opposition councillors have cleverly stirred up enough blinding anti-green fervour to convince the townsfolk that everything will be just rosy when the cuts kick in.[/p][/quote]I hate to point it out to you but the Greens have done that themselves without any assistance from the opposition parties. Fight_Back
  • Score: 3

2:21pm Sat 15 Feb 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

Why is it the most vulnerable in our society that always have care taken away first?

Why don't these councillors work for free considering most are retired and this isn't there only source of income?

Why don't they slash their entertainment and catering budget to nothing? That would show us they are cutting back on the non-essential items?
Why is it the most vulnerable in our society that always have care taken away first? Why don't these councillors work for free considering most are retired and this isn't there only source of income? Why don't they slash their entertainment and catering budget to nothing? That would show us they are cutting back on the non-essential items? getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: 8

2:48pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Gribbet says...

Fight_Back wrote:
Gribbet wrote:
Meanwhile in Brighton, our opposition councillors have cleverly stirred up enough blinding anti-green fervour to convince the townsfolk that everything will be just rosy when the cuts kick in.
I hate to point it out to you but the Greens have done that themselves without any assistance from the opposition parties.
The opposition parties don't care about what's best for the community or what's best for you, right now they only care about your votes in 2015. Their long term view only extends as far as the election.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: Meanwhile in Brighton, our opposition councillors have cleverly stirred up enough blinding anti-green fervour to convince the townsfolk that everything will be just rosy when the cuts kick in.[/p][/quote]I hate to point it out to you but the Greens have done that themselves without any assistance from the opposition parties.[/p][/quote]The opposition parties don't care about what's best for the community or what's best for you, right now they only care about your votes in 2015. Their long term view only extends as far as the election. Gribbet
  • Score: -3

3:12pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Fight_Back says...

Gribbet wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Gribbet wrote:
Meanwhile in Brighton, our opposition councillors have cleverly stirred up enough blinding anti-green fervour to convince the townsfolk that everything will be just rosy when the cuts kick in.
I hate to point it out to you but the Greens have done that themselves without any assistance from the opposition parties.
The opposition parties don't care about what's best for the community or what's best for you, right now they only care about your votes in 2015. Their long term view only extends as far as the election.
Actually, I have had direct experience of both Labour councillors and Tory councillors working together in my community. Both have always been responsive when I have contacted them. That can not be said of the Green councillors I have contacted for various reasons - they have either not responded, responded in a "couldn't care less" way or been downright rude.

I used one of my votes for each of Labour, Tory and Greens last local election. That won't be the case next year given I have had very bad experiences with the Greens both directly and indirectly.

So, before you start political grandstanding for a particular party, I suggest you get your facts right first.
[quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: Meanwhile in Brighton, our opposition councillors have cleverly stirred up enough blinding anti-green fervour to convince the townsfolk that everything will be just rosy when the cuts kick in.[/p][/quote]I hate to point it out to you but the Greens have done that themselves without any assistance from the opposition parties.[/p][/quote]The opposition parties don't care about what's best for the community or what's best for you, right now they only care about your votes in 2015. Their long term view only extends as far as the election.[/p][/quote]Actually, I have had direct experience of both Labour councillors and Tory councillors working together in my community. Both have always been responsive when I have contacted them. That can not be said of the Green councillors I have contacted for various reasons - they have either not responded, responded in a "couldn't care less" way or been downright rude. I used one of my votes for each of Labour, Tory and Greens last local election. That won't be the case next year given I have had very bad experiences with the Greens both directly and indirectly. So, before you start political grandstanding for a particular party, I suggest you get your facts right first. Fight_Back
  • Score: 3

5:36pm Sat 15 Feb 14

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! says...

Gribbet wrote:
Meanwhile in Brighton, our opposition councillors have cleverly stirred up enough blinding anti-green fervour to convince the townsfolk that everything will be just rosy when the cuts kick in.
HJ says we have managed to lose the trust of all Brighton residents through our approach and especially by ignoring everyone.

Still - we only have a few more months before our Brighton experiment will be over for ever - may hay while the sun shines is the mantra e.g. more motoring chaos, more wasting people's hard earned etc
[quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: Meanwhile in Brighton, our opposition councillors have cleverly stirred up enough blinding anti-green fervour to convince the townsfolk that everything will be just rosy when the cuts kick in.[/p][/quote]HJ says we have managed to lose the trust of all Brighton residents through our approach and especially by ignoring everyone. Still - we only have a few more months before our Brighton experiment will be over for ever - may hay while the sun shines is the mantra e.g. more motoring chaos, more wasting people's hard earned etc I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars!
  • Score: 5

7:42pm Sat 15 Feb 14

jimpy762 says...

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
Why is it the most vulnerable in our society that always have care taken away first?

Why don't these councillors work for free considering most are retired and this isn't there only source of income?

Why don't they slash their entertainment and catering budget to nothing? That would show us they are cutting back on the non-essential items?
The lefies will keep their gravy train running come what may.Their pensions and payoffs are essential services.
[quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: Why is it the most vulnerable in our society that always have care taken away first? Why don't these councillors work for free considering most are retired and this isn't there only source of income? Why don't they slash their entertainment and catering budget to nothing? That would show us they are cutting back on the non-essential items?[/p][/quote]The lefies will keep their gravy train running come what may.Their pensions and payoffs are essential services. jimpy762
  • Score: 1

8:56pm Sat 15 Feb 14

ourcoalition says...

jimpy762 wrote:
getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
Why is it the most vulnerable in our society that always have care taken away first?

Why don't these councillors work for free considering most are retired and this isn't there only source of income?

Why don't they slash their entertainment and catering budget to nothing? That would show us they are cutting back on the non-essential items?
The lefies will keep their gravy train running come what may.Their pensions and payoffs are essential services.
Those "lefties" created the Welfare State.

Pensions - average at retirement is £4,600 - hardly a "gravy train".

Pay-offs - yup, a few get them, the other 2 million public sector workers don't (and even the few, are rarely "lefties"!!!).
[quote][p][bold]jimpy762[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: Why is it the most vulnerable in our society that always have care taken away first? Why don't these councillors work for free considering most are retired and this isn't there only source of income? Why don't they slash their entertainment and catering budget to nothing? That would show us they are cutting back on the non-essential items?[/p][/quote]The lefies will keep their gravy train running come what may.Their pensions and payoffs are essential services.[/p][/quote]Those "lefties" created the Welfare State. Pensions - average at retirement is £4,600 - hardly a "gravy train". Pay-offs - yup, a few get them, the other 2 million public sector workers don't (and even the few, are rarely "lefties"!!!). ourcoalition
  • Score: 4

11:31pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Gribbet says...

I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars! wrote:
Gribbet wrote:
Meanwhile in Brighton, our opposition councillors have cleverly stirred up enough blinding anti-green fervour to convince the townsfolk that everything will be just rosy when the cuts kick in.
HJ says we have managed to lose the trust of all Brighton residents through our approach and especially by ignoring everyone.

Still - we only have a few more months before our Brighton experiment will be over for ever - may hay while the sun shines is the mantra e.g. more motoring chaos, more wasting people's hard earned etc
What's the mantra?
[quote][p][bold]I'm H Jarrs and I can't stand cars![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: Meanwhile in Brighton, our opposition councillors have cleverly stirred up enough blinding anti-green fervour to convince the townsfolk that everything will be just rosy when the cuts kick in.[/p][/quote]HJ says we have managed to lose the trust of all Brighton residents through our approach and especially by ignoring everyone. Still - we only have a few more months before our Brighton experiment will be over for ever - may hay while the sun shines is the mantra e.g. more motoring chaos, more wasting people's hard earned etc[/p][/quote]What's the mantra? Gribbet
  • Score: 0

5:37am Sun 16 Feb 14

Barry Pickthall says...

Louise Goldsmith, leader of the Conservative led West Sussex County Council, says that she cares - but not the vulnerable. This argument on budget cuts is all about priorities and she has always put infrastructure ahead of people. In 2012, The Don't Cut Us Out Campaign invited her to spend a day meeting the disabled and elderly who had lost all or most of their care support in these budget cuts. She declined. When we produced a video highlighting 6 cases, she had it banned from being played in the Council Chamber. During the build up to this latest vote to cut a further £141 million in care support and services, Don't Cut Us Out invited Ms Goldsmith to debate the issues in public. She didn't even respond.
This Valentine's Day Massacre debate showed that Ms Goldsmith has a heart of stone
Louise Goldsmith, leader of the Conservative led West Sussex County Council, says that she cares - but not the vulnerable. This argument on budget cuts is all about priorities and she has always put infrastructure ahead of people. In 2012, The Don't Cut Us Out Campaign invited her to spend a day meeting the disabled and elderly who had lost all or most of their care support in these budget cuts. She declined. When we produced a video highlighting 6 cases, she had it banned from being played in the Council Chamber. During the build up to this latest vote to cut a further £141 million in care support and services, Don't Cut Us Out invited Ms Goldsmith to debate the issues in public. She didn't even respond. This Valentine's Day Massacre debate showed that Ms Goldsmith has a heart of stone Barry Pickthall
  • Score: 6

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