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Hove couples hope to create city's first micropub

The Argus: Hove couples hope to create city's first micropub Hove couples hope to create city's first micropub

These four prospective landlords are hoping to revive the “art of conversation” with Brighton and Hove’s first micropub.

Hove couples Rick and Ruth Evans and Dave and Ali White are looking to convert York House Wines off-licence in Richardson Road in Hove into the city’s first micropub.

So far the growing micropub scene has failed to conquer Sussex with The Anchored in Worthing the only current recognised micropub in the county.

But the quartet hope to change all that.

They are hoping to create a more traditional and communal pub atmosphere where customers come to enjoy real ale, local ciders and wine.

The no-frills model means no music, no quiz machines and even no bar.

The only food customers can enjoy will be what they bring in themselves.

The pub will be staffed predominately by teachers Ali and Ruth, who have been looking for a new challenge.

The quartet were inspired by a visit to a Kent micropub last summer and the idea has taken off from there.

Opening times will be noon to 2pm and 5pm to 9pm with later openings on Friday and Saturday nights until 11pm.

Bexhill-based WithSoul will be supplying the micropub with four to five real ales each week.

The team hope to open by the summer if permission is granted by Brighton and Hove City Council’s planning committee in April with six weeks of refurbishment needed including insulation for sound proofing.

Rick said: “We are trying to explain that a micropub is nothing like a normal pub.

“There will be no music at all, we are keeping things simple, people just go in and talk.

“We are reintroducing the art of conversation.”

Ali said: “There are no micropubs in the whole of East Sussex but it’s only a short matter of time and if we don’t do it somebody else will.

“We think we can add to the vibrancy of the road.

“We do use the butchers, we use the cafe and we are excited to be part of this community.

“We are not competing against these traders, what we are offering is nothing these traders are offering.”

Dave said: “This is like a village in one road and we will be the village pub.

“A lot of people don’t like the new type of pub where you can’t actually hear each other.”

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6:37am Tue 4 Mar 14

In the sticks says...

And in six monrhs they'll be thinking, 'If we have music every other night we might get a few more punters in and not have to close down...'
And in six monrhs they'll be thinking, 'If we have music every other night we might get a few more punters in and not have to close down...' In the sticks
  • Score: 7

7:02am Tue 4 Mar 14

Sussex jim says...

A good idea. A basic pub where sensible drinkers can visit for social intercourse. And hopefully at affordable prices.
A good idea. A basic pub where sensible drinkers can visit for social intercourse. And hopefully at affordable prices. Sussex jim
  • Score: 11

7:12am Tue 4 Mar 14

RichardsonRoad-Community says...

The debate had already started in the Richardson Road Community. https://www.facebook
.com/RichardsonRoad
The debate had already started in the Richardson Road Community. https://www.facebook .com/RichardsonRoad RichardsonRoad-Community
  • Score: 6

7:26am Tue 4 Mar 14

whatevernext2013 says...

and there was me thinking that a micropub was like a micropig ,ie small and useless
and there was me thinking that a micropub was like a micropig ,ie small and useless whatevernext2013
  • Score: -6

7:29am Tue 4 Mar 14

Old Ladys Gin says...

Good luck to them and I hope they do well.
Good luck to them and I hope they do well. Old Ladys Gin
  • Score: 18

8:12am Tue 4 Mar 14

hoveguyactually says...

At last! Somewhere where one can go to meet friends, or sit and read a paper, without the nauseous racket going on all the time. I am so fed up with having to walk out of noisy cafes, bars, restaurants, shops, stores etc, because of the dreadful intrusive din. I wish them lots of success, and hope that other places will take note.
I once wrote to the Brighton Tourist office, asking for a list of places that do not have muzak going on in the background and they could not name one. Recently I have found among some of the worst offenders are Pret a Manger, Komedia cafe, Dome cafe, Marks & Spencer and Debenhams. It is one of the curses of modern life that muzak has to follow wherever we go.
At last! Somewhere where one can go to meet friends, or sit and read a paper, without the nauseous racket going on all the time. I am so fed up with having to walk out of noisy cafes, bars, restaurants, shops, stores etc, because of the dreadful intrusive din. I wish them lots of success, and hope that other places will take note. I once wrote to the Brighton Tourist office, asking for a list of places that do not have muzak going on in the background and they could not name one. Recently I have found among some of the worst offenders are Pret a Manger, Komedia cafe, Dome cafe, Marks & Spencer and Debenhams. It is one of the curses of modern life that muzak has to follow wherever we go. hoveguyactually
  • Score: 25

8:55am Tue 4 Mar 14

DC Brighton says...

So it's a very small pub with no music....I'm struggling to get excited.

Don't get me wrong - I'm a huge fan of pubs without a monotonous drone in the background but I can't see anything new here. There are a number of music-less real ale pubs around which don't deliberately limit themselves in terms of hours or size.

I hope they make a success of this though.
So it's a very small pub with no music....I'm struggling to get excited. Don't get me wrong - I'm a huge fan of pubs without a monotonous drone in the background but I can't see anything new here. There are a number of music-less real ale pubs around which don't deliberately limit themselves in terms of hours or size. I hope they make a success of this though. DC Brighton
  • Score: 5

9:02am Tue 4 Mar 14

mark by the sea says...

Think they will have to serve coffee and tea, which might upset one local business ! Idea is ok, but rent is 10k a year, overheads 10k before wages?
Perhaps selling food once they open will appeal more when they start losing money every week!
Think they will have to serve coffee and tea, which might upset one local business ! Idea is ok, but rent is 10k a year, overheads 10k before wages? Perhaps selling food once they open will appeal more when they start losing money every week! mark by the sea
  • Score: -2

10:10am Tue 4 Mar 14

Fight_Back says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
At last! Somewhere where one can go to meet friends, or sit and read a paper, without the nauseous racket going on all the time. I am so fed up with having to walk out of noisy cafes, bars, restaurants, shops, stores etc, because of the dreadful intrusive din. I wish them lots of success, and hope that other places will take note.
I once wrote to the Brighton Tourist office, asking for a list of places that do not have muzak going on in the background and they could not name one. Recently I have found among some of the worst offenders are Pret a Manger, Komedia cafe, Dome cafe, Marks & Spencer and Debenhams. It is one of the curses of modern life that muzak has to follow wherever we go.
Wetherspoons don't do music but the downside is that you actually have to enter the premises to get a drink !
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: At last! Somewhere where one can go to meet friends, or sit and read a paper, without the nauseous racket going on all the time. I am so fed up with having to walk out of noisy cafes, bars, restaurants, shops, stores etc, because of the dreadful intrusive din. I wish them lots of success, and hope that other places will take note. I once wrote to the Brighton Tourist office, asking for a list of places that do not have muzak going on in the background and they could not name one. Recently I have found among some of the worst offenders are Pret a Manger, Komedia cafe, Dome cafe, Marks & Spencer and Debenhams. It is one of the curses of modern life that muzak has to follow wherever we go.[/p][/quote]Wetherspoons don't do music but the downside is that you actually have to enter the premises to get a drink ! Fight_Back
  • Score: 7

10:42am Tue 4 Mar 14

ResPublican says...

I am guessing that the pub that inspired them was the Butchers Arms in Herne, Kent. This is a formula that can work well because there really are enough people who will support it. Ignore those who are predicting failure. I ran exactly this business model in a small country pub in West Sussex and people came for miles to enjoy it. I remember well that so many people, both in the pub trade and outside it, told me I was barking mad. I wish them every success - good beer and robust conversation go well together!
I am guessing that the pub that inspired them was the Butchers Arms in Herne, Kent. This is a formula that can work well because there really are enough people who will support it. Ignore those who are predicting failure. I ran exactly this business model in a small country pub in West Sussex and people came for miles to enjoy it. I remember well that so many people, both in the pub trade and outside it, told me I was barking mad. I wish them every success - good beer and robust conversation go well together! ResPublican
  • Score: 10

10:58am Tue 4 Mar 14

Durango_Splubb says...

Good Luck & Cheers!
Good Luck & Cheers! Durango_Splubb
  • Score: 14

12:19pm Tue 4 Mar 14

adam666 says...

Reading this article still left me wondering what a micro pub was. Luckily for those who are interested Wikipedia, at least tries to explain...

The definition of a Micro-pub is difficult. It is a set of ethics rather than a set of rules, but generally speaking a Micro-pub:

Is small (compared to a ‘normal’ pub), and single-roomed
Sells exclusively cask-conditioned beers i.e. no keg products: ‘smooth’, lager, Guinness etc. (however, some Micropubs do occasionally sell lager type ale, but this is properly brewed and not the artificially fizzy lager that 'bigger' pubs sell but this is likely to remain a contentious issue for purists of the Micropub concept)

In addition:

Does not sell spirits or Alcopops.
Is best described as an old-fashioned 'Ale House'.
Shuns products from national and multi-national breweries.
Does not have TV, juke box, gaming machines or pool tables. Conversation is important. The Wheel Alehouse in Birchington on the Isle of Thanet holds regular quizzes (and these are held on the 'upper-deck' - a room detached from the Micropub downstairs).
No food, other than traditional snacks such as eggs, pork scratchings, cheese, pies, etc.

There may be differences between the pubs; they may or may not have a bar, they might serve beer straight from the cask or through hand pumps. But they are united in one philosophy. A simple pub with the focus on cask beer and conversation for entertainment. The basic premise is KIS, KIS – Keep It Small, Keep It Simple

full article here http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Micropub

Good luck to them I say. For those who like a tipple in the area there are not many other alternatives.
Reading this article still left me wondering what a micro pub was. Luckily for those who are interested Wikipedia, at least tries to explain... The definition of a Micro-pub is difficult. It is a set of ethics rather than a set of rules, but generally speaking a Micro-pub: Is small (compared to a ‘normal’ pub), and single-roomed Sells exclusively cask-conditioned beers i.e. no keg products: ‘smooth’, lager, Guinness etc. (however, some Micropubs do occasionally sell lager type ale, but this is properly brewed and not the artificially fizzy lager that 'bigger' pubs sell but this is likely to remain a contentious issue for purists of the Micropub concept) In addition: Does not sell spirits or Alcopops. Is best described as an old-fashioned 'Ale House'. Shuns products from national and multi-national breweries. Does not have TV, juke box, gaming machines or pool tables. Conversation is important. The Wheel Alehouse in Birchington on the Isle of Thanet holds regular quizzes (and these are held on the 'upper-deck' - a room detached from the Micropub downstairs). No food, other than traditional snacks such as eggs, pork scratchings, cheese, pies, etc. There may be differences between the pubs; they may or may not have a bar, they might serve beer straight from the cask or through hand pumps. But they are united in one philosophy. A simple pub with the focus on cask beer and conversation for entertainment. The basic premise is KIS, KIS – Keep It Small, Keep It Simple full article here http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Micropub Good luck to them I say. For those who like a tipple in the area there are not many other alternatives. adam666
  • Score: 10

12:46pm Tue 4 Mar 14

greeg2 says...

Why don't people who want a confab just go to a Cafe?A bit cheaper me thinks.
Why don't people who want a confab just go to a Cafe?A bit cheaper me thinks. greeg2
  • Score: 0

1:15pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Scorpio50 says...

Sorry, I live near, very near, too near and I do not want this on my door step. They say now that there will be no music or special evenings but just wait! Surely there are enough Pubs, clubs, cafes along Portland Road, Blatchington Road, Church Road and George Street to suit some one?
Sorry, but those that live closest simply do not want it. Extractor fans in the Mews, People hanging around smoking, noise and, because dogs will be aloud in the pub, dog muck on the pavement too along with cigarette butts.
Sorry, but this has got a thumbs down from me and the other residents.
Sorry, I live near, very near, too near and I do not want this on my door step. They say now that there will be no music or special evenings but just wait! Surely there are enough Pubs, clubs, cafes along Portland Road, Blatchington Road, Church Road and George Street to suit some one? Sorry, but those that live closest simply do not want it. Extractor fans in the Mews, People hanging around smoking, noise and, because dogs will be aloud in the pub, dog muck on the pavement too along with cigarette butts. Sorry, but this has got a thumbs down from me and the other residents. Scorpio50
  • Score: -14

1:28pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Brighton Bill says...

This will be without doubt a success, small pubs selling "Real Ale" and their own beers are the future, no music makes it even better, yes people actually talking to each other, brilliant. Good Luck from Brighton Bill Bradford West Yorkshire (Ex 3 x "Camra "Pub of the Year" Landlord..
This will be without doubt a success, small pubs selling "Real Ale" and their own beers are the future, no music makes it even better, yes people actually talking to each other, brilliant. Good Luck from Brighton Bill Bradford West Yorkshire (Ex 3 x "Camra "Pub of the Year" Landlord.. Brighton Bill
  • Score: 6

3:38pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Lady Smith says...

Scorpio50 wrote:
Sorry, I live near, very near, too near and I do not want this on my door step. They say now that there will be no music or special evenings but just wait! Surely there are enough Pubs, clubs, cafes along Portland Road, Blatchington Road, Church Road and George Street to suit some one?
Sorry, but those that live closest simply do not want it. Extractor fans in the Mews, People hanging around smoking, noise and, because dogs will be aloud in the pub, dog muck on the pavement too along with cigarette butts.
Sorry, but this has got a thumbs down from me and the other residents.
'dogs will be aloud in the pub'.
Really? Well, surely someone will tell them not to bark aloud..?
[quote][p][bold]Scorpio50[/bold] wrote: Sorry, I live near, very near, too near and I do not want this on my door step. They say now that there will be no music or special evenings but just wait! Surely there are enough Pubs, clubs, cafes along Portland Road, Blatchington Road, Church Road and George Street to suit some one? Sorry, but those that live closest simply do not want it. Extractor fans in the Mews, People hanging around smoking, noise and, because dogs will be aloud in the pub, dog muck on the pavement too along with cigarette butts. Sorry, but this has got a thumbs down from me and the other residents.[/p][/quote]'dogs will be aloud in the pub'. Really? Well, surely someone will tell them not to bark aloud..? Lady Smith
  • Score: 6

4:09pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Brighton Bill says...

Sounds like we have a "Pub Hater", "Noise Hater" & "Dog Hater" all in one, ever thought about moving to a desert Island.
Sounds like we have a "Pub Hater", "Noise Hater" & "Dog Hater" all in one, ever thought about moving to a desert Island. Brighton Bill
  • Score: 5

5:17pm Tue 4 Mar 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

Anything that gets rid of the monopoly breweries is a good idea in my eyes! I hope they do very well.
Anything that gets rid of the monopoly breweries is a good idea in my eyes! I hope they do very well. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: 3

5:38pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Scorpio50 says...

Lady Smith wrote:
Scorpio50 wrote:
Sorry, I live near, very near, too near and I do not want this on my door step. They say now that there will be no music or special evenings but just wait! Surely there are enough Pubs, clubs, cafes along Portland Road, Blatchington Road, Church Road and George Street to suit some one?
Sorry, but those that live closest simply do not want it. Extractor fans in the Mews, People hanging around smoking, noise and, because dogs will be aloud in the pub, dog muck on the pavement too along with cigarette butts.
Sorry, but this has got a thumbs down from me and the other residents.
'dogs will be aloud in the pub'.
Really? Well, surely someone will tell them not to bark aloud..?
Sorry, of course I should have typed 'allowed'. I apologise for my hurriedly typed error. Was there any need for such a sarcastic reply though or could you not think of anything sensible to write?
[quote][p][bold]Lady Smith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scorpio50[/bold] wrote: Sorry, I live near, very near, too near and I do not want this on my door step. They say now that there will be no music or special evenings but just wait! Surely there are enough Pubs, clubs, cafes along Portland Road, Blatchington Road, Church Road and George Street to suit some one? Sorry, but those that live closest simply do not want it. Extractor fans in the Mews, People hanging around smoking, noise and, because dogs will be aloud in the pub, dog muck on the pavement too along with cigarette butts. Sorry, but this has got a thumbs down from me and the other residents.[/p][/quote]'dogs will be aloud in the pub'. Really? Well, surely someone will tell them not to bark aloud..?[/p][/quote]Sorry, of course I should have typed 'allowed'. I apologise for my hurriedly typed error. Was there any need for such a sarcastic reply though or could you not think of anything sensible to write? Scorpio50
  • Score: 0

6:23pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Scorpio50 says...

Brighton Bill wrote:
Sounds like we have a "Pub Hater", "Noise Hater" & "Dog Hater" all in one, ever thought about moving to a desert Island.
Sorry, I am not a pub hater. I just feel that we have enough pubs, clubs etc in the surrounding area. This is my opinion, of which I am entitled to but all I have had back is rudeness and sarcastic quips about one wrongly spelt word. If you're the kind of people who'll frequent this pub lets hope it doesn't go through.
[quote][p][bold]Brighton Bill[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we have a "Pub Hater", "Noise Hater" & "Dog Hater" all in one, ever thought about moving to a desert Island.[/p][/quote]Sorry, I am not a pub hater. I just feel that we have enough pubs, clubs etc in the surrounding area. This is my opinion, of which I am entitled to but all I have had back is rudeness and sarcastic quips about one wrongly spelt word. If you're the kind of people who'll frequent this pub lets hope it doesn't go through. Scorpio50
  • Score: -2

6:44pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Brighton Bill says...

Scorpio50 wrote:
Brighton Bill wrote:
Sounds like we have a "Pub Hater", "Noise Hater" & "Dog Hater" all in one, ever thought about moving to a desert Island.
Sorry, I am not a pub hater. I just feel that we have enough pubs, clubs etc in the surrounding area. This is my opinion, of which I am entitled to but all I have had back is rudeness and sarcastic quips about one wrongly spelt word. If you're the kind of people who'll frequent this pub lets hope it doesn't go through.
If this is an Off-Licence already then I am afraid it is through, just a matter of dotting the i's and crossing the t's, a formality in fact.. Can't wait for opening night.
[quote][p][bold]Scorpio50[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brighton Bill[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we have a "Pub Hater", "Noise Hater" & "Dog Hater" all in one, ever thought about moving to a desert Island.[/p][/quote]Sorry, I am not a pub hater. I just feel that we have enough pubs, clubs etc in the surrounding area. This is my opinion, of which I am entitled to but all I have had back is rudeness and sarcastic quips about one wrongly spelt word. If you're the kind of people who'll frequent this pub lets hope it doesn't go through.[/p][/quote]If this is an Off-Licence already then I am afraid it is through, just a matter of dotting the i's and crossing the t's, a formality in fact.. Can't wait for opening night. Brighton Bill
  • Score: 3

8:04pm Tue 4 Mar 14

aat99 says...

Brighton Bill wrote:
Scorpio50 wrote:
Brighton Bill wrote:
Sounds like we have a "Pub Hater", "Noise Hater" & "Dog Hater" all in one, ever thought about moving to a desert Island.
Sorry, I am not a pub hater. I just feel that we have enough pubs, clubs etc in the surrounding area. This is my opinion, of which I am entitled to but all I have had back is rudeness and sarcastic quips about one wrongly spelt word. If you're the kind of people who'll frequent this pub lets hope it doesn't go through.
If this is an Off-Licence already then I am afraid it is through, just a matter of dotting the i's and crossing the t's, a formality in fact.. Can't wait for opening night.
Not true. Not quite as simple as you make out.
[quote][p][bold]Brighton Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scorpio50[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brighton Bill[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we have a "Pub Hater", "Noise Hater" & "Dog Hater" all in one, ever thought about moving to a desert Island.[/p][/quote]Sorry, I am not a pub hater. I just feel that we have enough pubs, clubs etc in the surrounding area. This is my opinion, of which I am entitled to but all I have had back is rudeness and sarcastic quips about one wrongly spelt word. If you're the kind of people who'll frequent this pub lets hope it doesn't go through.[/p][/quote]If this is an Off-Licence already then I am afraid it is through, just a matter of dotting the i's and crossing the t's, a formality in fact.. Can't wait for opening night.[/p][/quote]Not true. Not quite as simple as you make out. aat99
  • Score: -2

8:16pm Tue 4 Mar 14

simba1945 says...

“We think we can add to the vibrancy of the road they say

Dont hold your breath,have seen them come and seen them go.
21 changes since living here.Your get some support when you first start people scuffling along with there carrier bags see if you see the same people at night
“We think we can add to the vibrancy of the road they say Dont hold your breath,have seen them come and seen them go. 21 changes since living here.Your get some support when you first start people scuffling along with there carrier bags see if you see the same people at night simba1945
  • Score: -4

8:37pm Tue 4 Mar 14

theotherones says...

As regular visitors to Brighton and Hove to visit family and friends, I think this idea is an excellent contrast to some of the more livelier bars. A chance to go out, have a drink and a catch up without the deafening noise of jukeboxes or DJs. Good luck with your venture and hope to sample your fine ales in the very near future.
As regular visitors to Brighton and Hove to visit family and friends, I think this idea is an excellent contrast to some of the more livelier bars. A chance to go out, have a drink and a catch up without the deafening noise of jukeboxes or DJs. Good luck with your venture and hope to sample your fine ales in the very near future. theotherones
  • Score: 5

9:30pm Tue 4 Mar 14

simba1945 says...

Brighton Bill wrote:
Sounds like we have a "Pub Hater", "Noise Hater" & "Dog Hater" all in one, ever thought about moving to a desert Island.
Oh dear how low can you go bet your Billy no mates
[quote][p][bold]Brighton Bill[/bold] wrote: Sounds like we have a "Pub Hater", "Noise Hater" & "Dog Hater" all in one, ever thought about moving to a desert Island.[/p][/quote]Oh dear how low can you go bet your Billy no mates simba1945
  • Score: -3

9:34pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Avril84 says...

...I can think of a few pubs that do everything this pub claims... but have a bar to stand and chat at... nothing like a good bar to perch yourself on!
...I can think of a few pubs that do everything this pub claims... but have a bar to stand and chat at... nothing like a good bar to perch yourself on! Avril84
  • Score: 2

9:57pm Tue 4 Mar 14

LionMewsTavern says...

Thank you for all your comments, positive and otherwise. We definitely want to add to the Richardson Road community and not take anything away. We will not be serving food, tea or coffee and will not be having music as these involve applying for licences and the Micropub concept is to keep things simple. Dogs will be as welcome as they are in other establishments in the road, and smokers will be asked to dispose of their rubbish responsibly. Micropubs are a new concept and we are aware of people's reservations but we firmly believe that our venture will bring something refreshing and exciting to Richardson Road and the surrounding area.
Thank you for all your comments, positive and otherwise. We definitely want to add to the Richardson Road community and not take anything away. We will not be serving food, tea or coffee and will not be having music as these involve applying for licences and the Micropub concept is to keep things simple. Dogs will be as welcome as they are in other establishments in the road, and smokers will be asked to dispose of their rubbish responsibly. Micropubs are a new concept and we are aware of people's reservations but we firmly believe that our venture will bring something refreshing and exciting to Richardson Road and the surrounding area. LionMewsTavern
  • Score: 7

8:22am Wed 5 Mar 14

hey mongo says...

Theres one in kemptown already you squares...
Theres one in kemptown already you squares... hey mongo
  • Score: 0

9:59am Wed 5 Mar 14

CatDonkey says...

I have never spent any time in a Micropub but I have spent plenty of time in traditional pubs and it strikes me that the regulars make all the difference; atypical opening hours, a lack of music and no quiz machines suggests to me that this venture will attract the sort of customer that *will* "bring something refreshing and exciting to Richardson Road and the surrounding area". I find myself intrigued by the concept and I am very much looking forward to opening day.
I have never spent any time in a Micropub but I have spent plenty of time in traditional pubs and it strikes me that the regulars make all the difference; atypical opening hours, a lack of music and no quiz machines suggests to me that this venture will attract the sort of customer that *will* "bring something refreshing and exciting to Richardson Road and the surrounding area". I find myself intrigued by the concept and I am very much looking forward to opening day. CatDonkey
  • Score: 4

12:33pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Brighton Bill says...

CatDonkey wrote:
I have never spent any time in a Micropub but I have spent plenty of time in traditional pubs and it strikes me that the regulars make all the difference; atypical opening hours, a lack of music and no quiz machines suggests to me that this venture will attract the sort of customer that *will* "bring something refreshing and exciting to Richardson Road and the surrounding area". I find myself intrigued by the concept and I am very much looking forward to opening day.
Excellent comments "CatDonkey" if only certain people would take the blinkers off sometimes. Just because something has been done in a certain way for a long time does not make it right, refresh yourselves and open your minds a little, you might find you surprise yourself and enjoy it. Live for today life is too short.
[quote][p][bold]CatDonkey[/bold] wrote: I have never spent any time in a Micropub but I have spent plenty of time in traditional pubs and it strikes me that the regulars make all the difference; atypical opening hours, a lack of music and no quiz machines suggests to me that this venture will attract the sort of customer that *will* "bring something refreshing and exciting to Richardson Road and the surrounding area". I find myself intrigued by the concept and I am very much looking forward to opening day.[/p][/quote]Excellent comments "CatDonkey" if only certain people would take the blinkers off sometimes. Just because something has been done in a certain way for a long time does not make it right, refresh yourselves and open your minds a little, you might find you surprise yourself and enjoy it. Live for today life is too short. Brighton Bill
  • Score: 4

3:27am Thu 6 Mar 14

Zeta Function says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
At last! Somewhere where one can go to meet friends, or sit and read a paper, without the nauseous racket going on all the time. I am so fed up with having to walk out of noisy cafes, bars, restaurants, shops, stores etc, because of the dreadful intrusive din. I wish them lots of success, and hope that other places will take note.
I once wrote to the Brighton Tourist office, asking for a list of places that do not have muzak going on in the background and they could not name one. Recently I have found among some of the worst offenders are Pret a Manger, Komedia cafe, Dome cafe, Marks & Spencer and Debenhams. It is one of the curses of modern life that muzak has to follow wherever we go.
Here here!

This is a wonderful idea. They have my full support.
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: At last! Somewhere where one can go to meet friends, or sit and read a paper, without the nauseous racket going on all the time. I am so fed up with having to walk out of noisy cafes, bars, restaurants, shops, stores etc, because of the dreadful intrusive din. I wish them lots of success, and hope that other places will take note. I once wrote to the Brighton Tourist office, asking for a list of places that do not have muzak going on in the background and they could not name one. Recently I have found among some of the worst offenders are Pret a Manger, Komedia cafe, Dome cafe, Marks & Spencer and Debenhams. It is one of the curses of modern life that muzak has to follow wherever we go.[/p][/quote]Here here! This is a wonderful idea. They have my full support. Zeta Function
  • Score: 1

9:08pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Gail.branch@hotmail.co.uk says...

It's an absolutely dreadful idea & a complete waste of time. There are enough pubs in the locality and planners and business people need to spare a thought for the local residents who will be affected. I'm sure if they lived in the area they would oppose this ludicrous idea!
It's an absolutely dreadful idea & a complete waste of time. There are enough pubs in the locality and planners and business people need to spare a thought for the local residents who will be affected. I'm sure if they lived in the area they would oppose this ludicrous idea! Gail.branch@hotmail.co.uk
  • Score: -3

9:12pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Gail.branch@hotmail.co.uk says...

It's a dreadful idea with little or no thought for local residents. I'm sure if the land owner and the business owner lived in or near the site they would not allow such a ludicrous proposal to go ahead. There are more than enough pubs in the area!
It's a dreadful idea with little or no thought for local residents. I'm sure if the land owner and the business owner lived in or near the site they would not allow such a ludicrous proposal to go ahead. There are more than enough pubs in the area! Gail.branch@hotmail.co.uk
  • Score: -3

11:23pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Brighton Bill says...

Gail.branch@hotmail.
co.uk
wrote:
It's a dreadful idea with little or no thought for local residents. I'm sure if the land owner and the business owner lived in or near the site they would not allow such a ludicrous proposal to go ahead. There are more than enough pubs in the area!
Have you been watching the Planning Programmes on our tv now, this has no chance of being refused. FACT.
[quote][p][bold]Gail.branch@hotmail. co.uk[/bold] wrote: It's a dreadful idea with little or no thought for local residents. I'm sure if the land owner and the business owner lived in or near the site they would not allow such a ludicrous proposal to go ahead. There are more than enough pubs in the area![/p][/quote]Have you been watching the Planning Programmes on our tv now, this has no chance of being refused. FACT. Brighton Bill
  • Score: -1

12:41am Fri 7 Mar 14

aat99 says...

Brighton Bill wrote:
Gail.branch@hotmail.

co.uk
wrote:
It's a dreadful idea with little or no thought for local residents. I'm sure if the land owner and the business owner lived in or near the site they would not allow such a ludicrous proposal to go ahead. There are more than enough pubs in the area!
Have you been watching the Planning Programmes on our tv now, this has no chance of being refused. FACT.
U on planning committee ? Plenty of reasons why it might get refused. FACT
[quote][p][bold]Brighton Bill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gail.branch@hotmail. co.uk[/bold] wrote: It's a dreadful idea with little or no thought for local residents. I'm sure if the land owner and the business owner lived in or near the site they would not allow such a ludicrous proposal to go ahead. There are more than enough pubs in the area![/p][/quote]Have you been watching the Planning Programmes on our tv now, this has no chance of being refused. FACT.[/p][/quote]U on planning committee ? Plenty of reasons why it might get refused. FACT aat99
  • Score: 1

9:50am Sun 9 Mar 14

RichardsonRoad-Community says...

RichardsonRoad-Commu
nity
wrote:
The debate had already started in the Richardson Road Community. https://www.facebook

.com/RichardsonRoad
This topic on our community page https://www.facebook
.com/RichardsonRoad has almost reached 5,000 readers in just 5 days, so certainly a very hot topic. Too many who seem against it just see the word 'pub', but how many have studied the plans in depth and the meaning of micro-pubs. The place to air your thoughts other than here and that community thread is on the planning register comments to make any possible difference if a valid argument.
As for vocal locals, you may recall the anger about the new Sainsburys on Portland Road about "we don't want it" but it went ahead and is used regularly enough maybe harming the smaller independents around it in the longer term. Support local independent trader/owners not the multinationals.
[quote][p][bold]RichardsonRoad-Commu nity[/bold] wrote: The debate had already started in the Richardson Road Community. https://www.facebook .com/RichardsonRoad[/p][/quote]This topic on our community page https://www.facebook .com/RichardsonRoad has almost reached 5,000 readers in just 5 days, so certainly a very hot topic. Too many who seem against it just see the word 'pub', but how many have studied the plans in depth and the meaning of micro-pubs. The place to air your thoughts other than here and that community thread is on the planning register comments to make any possible difference if a valid argument. As for vocal locals, you may recall the anger about the new Sainsburys on Portland Road about "we don't want it" but it went ahead and is used regularly enough maybe harming the smaller independents around it in the longer term. Support local independent trader/owners not the multinationals. RichardsonRoad-Community
  • Score: 1

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