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Have your say: Should council houses be reserved for convicts?

The Argus: Have your say: Should council houses be reserved for convicts? Have your say: Should council houses be reserved for convicts?

A report has suggested convicts with council houses should be able to keep them while they serve time in a bid to tackle homelessness.

The city council has been asked to consider keeping people’s tenancies open for them if they are sentenced to jail.

We want to know what you think.

Should convicts be able to keep their council house?

Would it alleviate the homelessness problem in the city?

Or do the convicts have to face the consequences of their actions, including losing their home?

Have your say below.

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5:49am Fri 7 Mar 14

rogerthefish says...

If they can afford to pay the rent without assistance of the taxpayer whilst inside then no problem.

How can having two places to live/stay tackle homelessness?
If they can afford to pay the rent without assistance of the taxpayer whilst inside then no problem. How can having two places to live/stay tackle homelessness? rogerthefish
  • Score: 11

6:53am Fri 7 Mar 14

mimseycal says...

There already is the possibility for tenants to retain their property whilst in prison. What is actually proposed is to lengthen the time period a tenant can be imprisoned before they have to forego their tenancy.

From what I can currently recollect, there is, in addition, the provision for a tenant being retained at her majesty's pleasure to offically install a 'caretaker' in the property they are renting for the period of their incarceration.

There are time limitations on both the options available with the first meaning that a property will remain uninhabited for the duration of the sentence and the second option involving the accupation of the property by a 'temporary' resident.
There already is the possibility for tenants to retain their property whilst in prison. What is actually proposed is to lengthen the time period a tenant can be imprisoned before they have to forego their tenancy. From what I can currently recollect, there is, in addition, the provision for a tenant being retained at her majesty's pleasure to offically install a 'caretaker' in the property they are renting for the period of their incarceration. There are time limitations on both the options available with the first meaning that a property will remain uninhabited for the duration of the sentence and the second option involving the accupation of the property by a 'temporary' resident. mimseycal
  • Score: 6

11:06am Fri 7 Mar 14

qm says...

If you have placed yourself in an awkward predicament because you have 'chosen' to commit crime, why should that elevate you to be prioritised above honest financially challenged families in desperate need?
Perhaps the possibility of losing a home might then be factored into the decision making process involved in making those 'choices'!
If you have placed yourself in an awkward predicament because you have 'chosen' to commit crime, why should that elevate you to be prioritised above honest financially challenged families in desperate need? Perhaps the possibility of losing a home might then be factored into the decision making process involved in making those 'choices'! qm
  • Score: 9

12:12pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Fairfax Aches says...

Typical sensationalism form the Argus rag. Always pandering to the bigoted, uneducated, lowest common denominator detritus that is their readership.
Not everyone "chooses" to commit crime and about time a more holistic view was taken to society rather than the typical right wing garbage this paper spews forth.
Typical sensationalism form the Argus rag. Always pandering to the bigoted, uneducated, lowest common denominator detritus that is their readership. Not everyone "chooses" to commit crime and about time a more holistic view was taken to society rather than the typical right wing garbage this paper spews forth. Fairfax Aches
  • Score: -5

2:34pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Joshiman says...

Going away for a while.Well a few years if you must know.Could do with building up a bit of cash for when I return.Thousand pounds a month rent ok?In cash please.
Going away for a while.Well a few years if you must know.Could do with building up a bit of cash for when I return.Thousand pounds a month rent ok?In cash please. Joshiman
  • Score: 2

2:47pm Fri 7 Mar 14

qm says...

Fairfax Aches wrote:
Typical sensationalism form the Argus rag. Always pandering to the bigoted, uneducated, lowest common denominator detritus that is their readership.
Not everyone "chooses" to commit crime and about time a more holistic view was taken to society rather than the typical right wing garbage this paper spews forth.
Eloquent? Thoroughly!
Articulate? Entirely!
Content? Utter poop!

Oh, and thank you for telling us a little bit about yourself in the second sentence!
[quote][p][bold]Fairfax Aches[/bold] wrote: Typical sensationalism form the Argus rag. Always pandering to the bigoted, uneducated, lowest common denominator detritus that is their readership. Not everyone "chooses" to commit crime and about time a more holistic view was taken to society rather than the typical right wing garbage this paper spews forth.[/p][/quote]Eloquent? Thoroughly! Articulate? Entirely! Content? Utter poop! Oh, and thank you for telling us a little bit about yourself in the second sentence! qm
  • Score: 2

7:14pm Fri 7 Mar 14

rayellerton says...

so if the prisoner has a wife and kids they get chucked out? Can understand if the prisoner is single, or has a record of using the premises for criminal purpose...but, kids dont choose their parents, don't punish them!
so if the prisoner has a wife and kids they get chucked out? Can understand if the prisoner is single, or has a record of using the premises for criminal purpose...but, kids dont choose their parents, don't punish them! rayellerton
  • Score: 1

8:36pm Fri 7 Mar 14

mimseycal says...

rayellerton wrote:
so if the prisoner has a wife and kids they get chucked out? Can understand if the prisoner is single, or has a record of using the premises for criminal purpose...but, kids dont choose their parents, don't punish them!
No ... this is for prisoners who are the sole tenant. If there are any dependants then provided at least one is an adult they will remain in the property without any reservations.

I was actually at the housing committee meeting where this was discussed. The issue, especially regarding convicted prisoners, as different from prisoners on remand, is when their sentence is for a rather protracted length of time and only where they are the sole tenant.

But as I stated above, that is already provided for in the regulations. I think that one thing that clarification was sought on is the specific given time periods for option one and two.
[quote][p][bold]rayellerton[/bold] wrote: so if the prisoner has a wife and kids they get chucked out? Can understand if the prisoner is single, or has a record of using the premises for criminal purpose...but, kids dont choose their parents, don't punish them![/p][/quote]No ... this is for prisoners who are the sole tenant. If there are any dependants then provided at least one is an adult they will remain in the property without any reservations. I was actually at the housing committee meeting where this was discussed. The issue, especially regarding convicted prisoners, as different from prisoners on remand, is when their sentence is for a rather protracted length of time and only where they are the sole tenant. But as I stated above, that is already provided for in the regulations. I think that one thing that clarification was sought on is the specific given time periods for option one and two. mimseycal
  • Score: 0

9:59pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Vox populi 2 says...

NO - its prison cells that should be reserved for convicts.
NO - its prison cells that should be reserved for convicts. Vox populi 2
  • Score: 2

1:53am Sat 8 Mar 14

KarenT says...

Fairfax Aches wrote:
Typical sensationalism form the Argus rag. Always pandering to the bigoted, uneducated, lowest common denominator detritus that is their readership.
Not everyone "chooses" to commit crime and about time a more holistic view was taken to society rather than the typical right wing garbage this paper spews forth.
Not everyone "chooses" to commit crime? You mean perhaps some do it whilst sleepwalking?
[quote][p][bold]Fairfax Aches[/bold] wrote: Typical sensationalism form the Argus rag. Always pandering to the bigoted, uneducated, lowest common denominator detritus that is their readership. Not everyone "chooses" to commit crime and about time a more holistic view was taken to society rather than the typical right wing garbage this paper spews forth.[/p][/quote]Not everyone "chooses" to commit crime? You mean perhaps some do it whilst sleepwalking? KarenT
  • Score: 0

1:56am Sat 8 Mar 14

KarenT says...

Just don't ever let them out of prison, or send them to an ex-offenders colony in Papau New Guinea.
Just don't ever let them out of prison, or send them to an ex-offenders colony in Papau New Guinea. KarenT
  • Score: 0

9:42am Sat 8 Mar 14

qm says...

KarenT wrote:
Just don't ever let them out of prison, or send them to an ex-offenders colony in Papau New Guinea.
Ah . . . lunch is served . . . ;)
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: Just don't ever let them out of prison, or send them to an ex-offenders colony in Papau New Guinea.[/p][/quote]Ah . . . lunch is served . . . ;) qm
  • Score: 2

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