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Big Lemon Bus Company to face public inquiry over safety

The Argus: Big Lemon Bus Company to face public inquiry over safety Big Lemon Bus Company to face public inquiry over safety

AN ECO-friendly bus company is facing a public inquiry over the safety and alleged illegal use of its fleet. The Big Lemon Bus Company, which operates in and around Brighton and Hove, will answer three complaints at the hearing on March 26.

The first accuses the company of blocking a highway during a high- profile fracking protest.

The second is concerned with an allegedly faulty maintenance inspection of the vehicle following the demonstration.

The third relates to a tyre defect said to have been found on one of the fleet based in Brighton.

A spokesman for the traffic commissioner said three options were available if the company was found in breach.

He said: “The commissioner can look to remove the company’s licence – that is the most serious option.

"The licence could also be suspended or they could be a forced to reduce the number of vehicles.”

The first complaint concerns the use of one of the Big Lemon buses at an anti-fracking demonstration at Barton Moss, near Manchester.

Tom Druitt, the company’s owner who drove the vehicle from Brighton to Lancashire for the protest, confirmed a complaint had been lodged by Greater Manchester Police.

He said: “They have alleged to the traffic commissioner that the vehicle was obstructing the highway. “Following their complaint there was a judgement as to whether it was a highway and it was found it wasn’t.

“Their complaint is now superseded by this judgement – that hasn’t yet filtered down to the commissioner.”

An inspection of the vehicle, carried out by the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency followed, during which a number of defects were found.

Mr Druitt said the Agency claims that some of the lockers were broken, the front door did not work, one of the windows was smashed and a seat- belt was broken.

The company denies responsibility for the alleged defects.

Mr Druitt said: “I drove it up from Brighton the night before and I inspected it. It had no defects.

“I can only conclude that, if there were any defects, during the rough and tumble with police it was damaged. Five protesters were locked onto the vehicle during the day.”

He added: “We are proud of our record. We’ve never had any accidents as a result of any maintenance faults, we’ve never had any injuries and no incidents of any damage.

“We take maintenance very seriously and we have changed our defect reporting system to make it more specific.”

The inquiry will be held at Ivy House in Ivy Terrace, Eastbourne.

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11:52am Thu 13 Mar 14

whatone says...

Sound like another stitch up!

It appears plod has been told by its political masters that any dissent against fracking is to be crushed by whatever means.

Apparently the reason is that there is too much money involved and too many envelopes of a particular colour flying around!
Sound like another stitch up! It appears plod has been told by its political masters that any dissent against fracking is to be crushed by whatever means. Apparently the reason is that there is too much money involved and too many envelopes of a particular colour flying around! whatone
  • Score: 24

12:18pm Thu 13 Mar 14

whatevernext2013 says...

sooner the better his third world fleet is off the road ,they look shameful out on the roads of brighton ,but then again they do fit in with the rest of the crumbling city that his friends the green party have wrecked
sooner the better his third world fleet is off the road ,they look shameful out on the roads of brighton ,but then again they do fit in with the rest of the crumbling city that his friends the green party have wrecked whatevernext2013
  • Score: -14

12:20pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Fight_Back says...

Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition. Fight_Back
  • Score: 37

12:27pm Thu 13 Mar 14

whatevernext2013 says...

Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly whatevernext2013
  • Score: 8

12:33pm Thu 13 Mar 14

pachallis says...

Perhaps Tom Druitt could spend more of his time taking responsibility for running the 'Big Lemon Bus Company' in Brighton and maintaining his vehicles rather than doing publicity stunts by joining anti-fracking demos in Lancashire and sitting in trees in Bexhill?
Perhaps Tom Druitt could spend more of his time taking responsibility for running the 'Big Lemon Bus Company' in Brighton and maintaining his vehicles rather than doing publicity stunts by joining anti-fracking demos in Lancashire and sitting in trees in Bexhill? pachallis
  • Score: 10

12:49pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Fight_Back says...

whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly
B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country.

The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together.

So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.
[quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly[/p][/quote]B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country. The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together. So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you. Fight_Back
  • Score: 14

12:52pm Thu 13 Mar 14

bluemonday says...

Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
3rd post,well done,i was wondering when brighton and hove bus co would get the blame,
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]3rd post,well done,i was wondering when brighton and hove bus co would get the blame, bluemonday
  • Score: 6

1:38pm Thu 13 Mar 14

whatevernext2013 says...

Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly
B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country.

The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together.

So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.
yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly[/p][/quote]B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country. The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together. So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.[/p][/quote]yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town whatevernext2013
  • Score: 2

2:09pm Thu 13 Mar 14

spa301 says...

Is it true the majority of their buses are those sold by B&H as past their useful lifespan (i.e. not worth constantly repairing) and that many of their drivers are those that failed the B&H recruitment tests?
Is it true the majority of their buses are those sold by B&H as past their useful lifespan (i.e. not worth constantly repairing) and that many of their drivers are those that failed the B&H recruitment tests? spa301
  • Score: 4

3:05pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Fight_Back says...

whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly
B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country.

The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together.

So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.
yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town
No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!!
[quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly[/p][/quote]B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country. The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together. So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.[/p][/quote]yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town[/p][/quote]No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!! Fight_Back
  • Score: 12

3:11pm Thu 13 Mar 14

In the sticks says...

whatevernext2013 wrote:
sooner the better his third world fleet is off the road ,they look shameful out on the roads of brighton ,but then again they do fit in with the rest of the crumbling city that his friends the green party have wrecked
Oi Victor Meldrew: I was helping to wreck your 'lovely city' years before the Green Party were even formed. You can't blame it on them.
[quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: sooner the better his third world fleet is off the road ,they look shameful out on the roads of brighton ,but then again they do fit in with the rest of the crumbling city that his friends the green party have wrecked[/p][/quote]Oi Victor Meldrew: I was helping to wreck your 'lovely city' years before the Green Party were even formed. You can't blame it on them. In the sticks
  • Score: -5

3:16pm Thu 13 Mar 14

spa301 says...

Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly
B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country.

The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together.

So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.
yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town
No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!!
I thought a monopoly meant one company had all the business sewn up.
Has anyone told Stagecoach, Compass and these Lemons?
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly[/p][/quote]B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country. The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together. So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.[/p][/quote]yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town[/p][/quote]No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!![/p][/quote]I thought a monopoly meant one company had all the business sewn up. Has anyone told Stagecoach, Compass and these Lemons? spa301
  • Score: 3

4:10pm Thu 13 Mar 14

Fight_Back says...

spa301 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly
B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country.

The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together.

So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.
yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town
No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!!
I thought a monopoly meant one company had all the business sewn up.
Has anyone told Stagecoach, Compass and these Lemons?
Stagecoach and Compass not not operate solely B&H routes.
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly[/p][/quote]B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country. The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together. So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.[/p][/quote]yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town[/p][/quote]No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!![/p][/quote]I thought a monopoly meant one company had all the business sewn up. Has anyone told Stagecoach, Compass and these Lemons?[/p][/quote]Stagecoach and Compass not not operate solely B&H routes. Fight_Back
  • Score: 1

5:56pm Thu 13 Mar 14

her professional says...

bluemonday wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
3rd post,well done,i was wondering when brighton and hove bus co would get the blame,
"The Council " doesn't decide who operates commercial bus routes, their only involvement is with non-commercial routes (a tiny proportion of the buses in Brighton), which go out to tender and are subsidised. Currently, some of these are operated by Compass buses, so not exactly stitched up between the Council and B & H Buses.
[quote][p][bold]bluemonday[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]3rd post,well done,i was wondering when brighton and hove bus co would get the blame,[/p][/quote]"The Council " doesn't decide who operates commercial bus routes, their only involvement is with non-commercial routes (a tiny proportion of the buses in Brighton), which go out to tender and are subsidised. Currently, some of these are operated by Compass buses, so not exactly stitched up between the Council and B & H Buses. her professional
  • Score: 0

8:03pm Thu 13 Mar 14

pachallis says...

Fight_Back wrote:
spa301 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly
B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country.

The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together.

So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.
yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town
No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!!
I thought a monopoly meant one company had all the business sewn up.
Has anyone told Stagecoach, Compass and these Lemons?
Stagecoach and Compass not not operate solely B&H routes.
Nothing to do with the original article, but regarding monopolies, B&H Buses are effectively a monopoly for most customers running almost all services in the city.

I live in Portslade and if I want to travel into town I can only use B&H Buses - either routes 1 or 6 run by B&H Buses. There are no other bus companies running on this route so I can not opt to use a different supplier. If B&H Buses put up prices I have no option but to accept the increases (other than to walk or drive or not travel).

This is unlike competitive markets - supermarkets, energy, telecoms, banking,etc. where I can choose the supplier freely.

There are companies similar to B&H Buses - such as water and council where there is only one supplier in the area and then prices are controlled by an external group to attempt to avoid monopolistic pricing policies.

It is interesting that the only area where there is some real competition is along the Lewes road corridor to the university where B&H Buses regularly seem to offer special discounts or better services to attract custom.

I do, though, question whether 'Big Lemon' gets any special funding from the Green council due to their support for green policies and councillors (see Tom Druitt's twitter feed for background)?

IMHO we need a lot more competition on other routes, especially along the major routes into the city.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly[/p][/quote]B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country. The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together. So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.[/p][/quote]yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town[/p][/quote]No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!![/p][/quote]I thought a monopoly meant one company had all the business sewn up. Has anyone told Stagecoach, Compass and these Lemons?[/p][/quote]Stagecoach and Compass not not operate solely B&H routes.[/p][/quote]Nothing to do with the original article, but regarding monopolies, B&H Buses are effectively a monopoly for most customers running almost all services in the city. I live in Portslade and if I want to travel into town I can only use B&H Buses - either routes 1 or 6 run by B&H Buses. There are no other bus companies running on this route so I can not opt to use a different supplier. If B&H Buses put up prices I have no option but to accept the increases (other than to walk or drive or not travel). This is unlike competitive markets - supermarkets, energy, telecoms, banking,etc. where I can choose the supplier freely. There are companies similar to B&H Buses - such as water and council where there is only one supplier in the area and then prices are controlled by an external group to attempt to avoid monopolistic pricing policies. It is interesting that the only area where there is some real competition is along the Lewes road corridor to the university where B&H Buses regularly seem to offer special discounts or better services to attract custom. I do, though, question whether 'Big Lemon' gets any special funding from the Green council due to their support for green policies and councillors (see Tom Druitt's twitter feed for background)? IMHO we need a lot more competition on other routes, especially along the major routes into the city. pachallis
  • Score: 8

8:14pm Thu 13 Mar 14

JHunty says...

Ah Tom, recently cleared of a criminal offence of trespassing but told by the judge that on the evidence you would have been found guilty of the civil offence of trespassing
You claimed this vindicated your protest where as you actually got lucky with a sympathetic judge. FOS
Ah Tom, recently cleared of a criminal offence of trespassing but told by the judge that on the evidence you would have been found guilty of the civil offence of trespassing You claimed this vindicated your protest where as you actually got lucky with a sympathetic judge. FOS JHunty
  • Score: -4

11:15pm Thu 13 Mar 14

whatevernext2013 says...

Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly
B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country.

The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together.

So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.
yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town
No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!!
how did they kill off the blue buses ,is that the same as video killed off the radio star ?
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly[/p][/quote]B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country. The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together. So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.[/p][/quote]yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town[/p][/quote]No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!![/p][/quote]how did they kill off the blue buses ,is that the same as video killed off the radio star ? whatevernext2013
  • Score: 2

11:18pm Thu 13 Mar 14

whatevernext2013 says...

Fight_Back wrote:
spa301 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly
B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country.

The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together.

So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.
yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town
No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!!
I thought a monopoly meant one company had all the business sewn up.
Has anyone told Stagecoach, Compass and these Lemons?
Stagecoach and Compass not not operate solely B&H routes.
and neither do B & H buses ,or is eastbourne lewes tunbridge wells to many but a few now part of brighton ?
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly[/p][/quote]B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country. The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together. So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.[/p][/quote]yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town[/p][/quote]No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!![/p][/quote]I thought a monopoly meant one company had all the business sewn up. Has anyone told Stagecoach, Compass and these Lemons?[/p][/quote]Stagecoach and Compass not not operate solely B&H routes.[/p][/quote]and neither do B & H buses ,or is eastbourne lewes tunbridge wells to many but a few now part of brighton ? whatevernext2013
  • Score: 2

11:22pm Thu 13 Mar 14

whatevernext2013 says...

pachallis wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
spa301 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly
B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country.

The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together.

So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.
yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town
No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!!
I thought a monopoly meant one company had all the business sewn up.
Has anyone told Stagecoach, Compass and these Lemons?
Stagecoach and Compass not not operate solely B&H routes.
Nothing to do with the original article, but regarding monopolies, B&H Buses are effectively a monopoly for most customers running almost all services in the city.

I live in Portslade and if I want to travel into town I can only use B&H Buses - either routes 1 or 6 run by B&H Buses. There are no other bus companies running on this route so I can not opt to use a different supplier. If B&H Buses put up prices I have no option but to accept the increases (other than to walk or drive or not travel).

This is unlike competitive markets - supermarkets, energy, telecoms, banking,etc. where I can choose the supplier freely.

There are companies similar to B&H Buses - such as water and council where there is only one supplier in the area and then prices are controlled by an external group to attempt to avoid monopolistic pricing policies.

It is interesting that the only area where there is some real competition is along the Lewes road corridor to the university where B&H Buses regularly seem to offer special discounts or better services to attract custom.

I do, though, question whether 'Big Lemon' gets any special funding from the Green council due to their support for green policies and councillors (see Tom Druitt's twitter feed for background)?

IMHO we need a lot more competition on other routes, especially along the major routes into the city.
but you do have a choice buy a car , a motorbike or do the green thing and ride a bike or walk ,theres four choices for you but all you do is moan about only one bus company ,with five choices on offer how many more do you want ?
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly[/p][/quote]B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country. The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together. So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.[/p][/quote]yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town[/p][/quote]No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!![/p][/quote]I thought a monopoly meant one company had all the business sewn up. Has anyone told Stagecoach, Compass and these Lemons?[/p][/quote]Stagecoach and Compass not not operate solely B&H routes.[/p][/quote]Nothing to do with the original article, but regarding monopolies, B&H Buses are effectively a monopoly for most customers running almost all services in the city. I live in Portslade and if I want to travel into town I can only use B&H Buses - either routes 1 or 6 run by B&H Buses. There are no other bus companies running on this route so I can not opt to use a different supplier. If B&H Buses put up prices I have no option but to accept the increases (other than to walk or drive or not travel). This is unlike competitive markets - supermarkets, energy, telecoms, banking,etc. where I can choose the supplier freely. There are companies similar to B&H Buses - such as water and council where there is only one supplier in the area and then prices are controlled by an external group to attempt to avoid monopolistic pricing policies. It is interesting that the only area where there is some real competition is along the Lewes road corridor to the university where B&H Buses regularly seem to offer special discounts or better services to attract custom. I do, though, question whether 'Big Lemon' gets any special funding from the Green council due to their support for green policies and councillors (see Tom Druitt's twitter feed for background)? IMHO we need a lot more competition on other routes, especially along the major routes into the city.[/p][/quote]but you do have a choice buy a car , a motorbike or do the green thing and ride a bike or walk ,theres four choices for you but all you do is moan about only one bus company ,with five choices on offer how many more do you want ? whatevernext2013
  • Score: -9

8:04am Fri 14 Mar 14

BURIRAM says...

Lemon buses are no good for my diet, I can smell the Chips from the used cooking oil they use as they drive through Ovingdean. In the third world country's at least the doors.
Lemon buses are no good for my diet, I can smell the Chips from the used cooking oil they use as they drive through Ovingdean. In the third world country's at least the doors. BURIRAM
  • Score: 0

8:36am Fri 14 Mar 14

pachallis says...

whatevernext2013 wrote:
pachallis wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
spa301 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly
B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country.

The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together.

So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.
yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town
No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!!
I thought a monopoly meant one company had all the business sewn up.
Has anyone told Stagecoach, Compass and these Lemons?
Stagecoach and Compass not not operate solely B&H routes.
Nothing to do with the original article, but regarding monopolies, B&H Buses are effectively a monopoly for most customers running almost all services in the city.

I live in Portslade and if I want to travel into town I can only use B&H Buses - either routes 1 or 6 run by B&H Buses. There are no other bus companies running on this route so I can not opt to use a different supplier. If B&H Buses put up prices I have no option but to accept the increases (other than to walk or drive or not travel).

This is unlike competitive markets - supermarkets, energy, telecoms, banking,etc. where I can choose the supplier freely.

There are companies similar to B&H Buses - such as water and council where there is only one supplier in the area and then prices are controlled by an external group to attempt to avoid monopolistic pricing policies.

It is interesting that the only area where there is some real competition is along the Lewes road corridor to the university where B&H Buses regularly seem to offer special discounts or better services to attract custom.

I do, though, question whether 'Big Lemon' gets any special funding from the Green council due to their support for green policies and councillors (see Tom Druitt's twitter feed for background)?

IMHO we need a lot more competition on other routes, especially along the major routes into the city.
but you do have a choice buy a car , a motorbike or do the green thing and ride a bike or walk ,theres four choices for you but all you do is moan about only one bus company ,with five choices on offer how many more do you want ?
@whatevernext2013 - That's what I said in my second paragraph - perhaps you should learn to read?
[quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly[/p][/quote]B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country. The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together. So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.[/p][/quote]yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town[/p][/quote]No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!![/p][/quote]I thought a monopoly meant one company had all the business sewn up. Has anyone told Stagecoach, Compass and these Lemons?[/p][/quote]Stagecoach and Compass not not operate solely B&H routes.[/p][/quote]Nothing to do with the original article, but regarding monopolies, B&H Buses are effectively a monopoly for most customers running almost all services in the city. I live in Portslade and if I want to travel into town I can only use B&H Buses - either routes 1 or 6 run by B&H Buses. There are no other bus companies running on this route so I can not opt to use a different supplier. If B&H Buses put up prices I have no option but to accept the increases (other than to walk or drive or not travel). This is unlike competitive markets - supermarkets, energy, telecoms, banking,etc. where I can choose the supplier freely. There are companies similar to B&H Buses - such as water and council where there is only one supplier in the area and then prices are controlled by an external group to attempt to avoid monopolistic pricing policies. It is interesting that the only area where there is some real competition is along the Lewes road corridor to the university where B&H Buses regularly seem to offer special discounts or better services to attract custom. I do, though, question whether 'Big Lemon' gets any special funding from the Green council due to their support for green policies and councillors (see Tom Druitt's twitter feed for background)? IMHO we need a lot more competition on other routes, especially along the major routes into the city.[/p][/quote]but you do have a choice buy a car , a motorbike or do the green thing and ride a bike or walk ,theres four choices for you but all you do is moan about only one bus company ,with five choices on offer how many more do you want ?[/p][/quote]@whatevernext2013 - That's what I said in my second paragraph - perhaps you should learn to read? pachallis
  • Score: 0

8:40am Fri 14 Mar 14

Beethoven says...

So it is said that it never was blocking a highway - O K that can be established.

The defects, broken window & locker etc sound like the sort of thing that could happen in a rowdy demo.

Give 'em a break.. no harm done , keep a watch on the buses and maintainance if you like . One might question his judgement in going to the event but the Govt is always banging on about encouraging small businesses , not strangling them.
So it is said that it never was blocking a highway - O K that can be established. The defects, broken window & locker etc sound like the sort of thing that could happen in a rowdy demo. Give 'em a break.. no harm done , keep a watch on the buses and maintainance if you like . One might question his judgement in going to the event but the Govt is always banging on about encouraging small businesses , not strangling them. Beethoven
  • Score: 1

9:39am Fri 14 Mar 14

spa301 says...

I believe the new buses that B&H are now introducing to their fleet cost around £200k each, so any new company will need very, very deep pockets to buy a modern fleet, depots etc etc so it's hard to see how a competitor could make the sums work.
I believe the new buses that B&H are now introducing to their fleet cost around £200k each, so any new company will need very, very deep pockets to buy a modern fleet, depots etc etc so it's hard to see how a competitor could make the sums work. spa301
  • Score: 4

9:45am Fri 14 Mar 14

pachallis says...

Beethoven wrote:
So it is said that it never was blocking a highway - O K that can be established.

The defects, broken window & locker etc sound like the sort of thing that could happen in a rowdy demo.

Give 'em a break.. no harm done , keep a watch on the buses and maintainance if you like . One might question his judgement in going to the event but the Govt is always banging on about encouraging small businesses , not strangling them.
@Beethoven - I would agree with you in general about wanting to encourage small businesses.

However, if you look at Tom Druitt's twitter feed he seems to spend even more time than Kitkat posting pro-green propaganda. Perhaps if he focused more time on the company rather than ideologies he'd make a 'small business' grow into something even bigger?

Perhaps then he wouldn't have to rent out his spare bedroom (see the twitter feed January 21st) to help make ends meet.
[quote][p][bold]Beethoven[/bold] wrote: So it is said that it never was blocking a highway - O K that can be established. The defects, broken window & locker etc sound like the sort of thing that could happen in a rowdy demo. Give 'em a break.. no harm done , keep a watch on the buses and maintainance if you like . One might question his judgement in going to the event but the Govt is always banging on about encouraging small businesses , not strangling them.[/p][/quote]@Beethoven - I would agree with you in general about wanting to encourage small businesses. However, if you look at Tom Druitt's twitter feed he seems to spend even more time than Kitkat posting pro-green propaganda. Perhaps if he focused more time on the company rather than ideologies he'd make a 'small business' grow into something even bigger? Perhaps then he wouldn't have to rent out his spare bedroom (see the twitter feed January 21st) to help make ends meet. pachallis
  • Score: 1

10:15am Fri 14 Mar 14

wendy-uk says...

pachallis wrote:
Beethoven wrote:
So it is said that it never was blocking a highway - O K that can be established.

The defects, broken window & locker etc sound like the sort of thing that could happen in a rowdy demo.

Give 'em a break.. no harm done , keep a watch on the buses and maintainance if you like . One might question his judgement in going to the event but the Govt is always banging on about encouraging small businesses , not strangling them.
@Beethoven - I would agree with you in general about wanting to encourage small businesses.

However, if you look at Tom Druitt's twitter feed he seems to spend even more time than Kitkat posting pro-green propaganda. Perhaps if he focused more time on the company rather than ideologies he'd make a 'small business' grow into something even bigger?

Perhaps then he wouldn't have to rent out his spare bedroom (see the twitter feed January 21st) to help make ends meet.
Perhaps he actually cares about ideologies and doesn't particularly want a big business? Bigger is not always better as the complaints above about B&H illustrate.
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beethoven[/bold] wrote: So it is said that it never was blocking a highway - O K that can be established. The defects, broken window & locker etc sound like the sort of thing that could happen in a rowdy demo. Give 'em a break.. no harm done , keep a watch on the buses and maintainance if you like . One might question his judgement in going to the event but the Govt is always banging on about encouraging small businesses , not strangling them.[/p][/quote]@Beethoven - I would agree with you in general about wanting to encourage small businesses. However, if you look at Tom Druitt's twitter feed he seems to spend even more time than Kitkat posting pro-green propaganda. Perhaps if he focused more time on the company rather than ideologies he'd make a 'small business' grow into something even bigger? Perhaps then he wouldn't have to rent out his spare bedroom (see the twitter feed January 21st) to help make ends meet.[/p][/quote]Perhaps he actually cares about ideologies and doesn't particularly want a big business? Bigger is not always better as the complaints above about B&H illustrate. wendy-uk
  • Score: 0

10:44am Fri 14 Mar 14

pachallis says...

wendy-uk wrote:
pachallis wrote:
Beethoven wrote:
So it is said that it never was blocking a highway - O K that can be established.

The defects, broken window & locker etc sound like the sort of thing that could happen in a rowdy demo.

Give 'em a break.. no harm done , keep a watch on the buses and maintainance if you like . One might question his judgement in going to the event but the Govt is always banging on about encouraging small businesses , not strangling them.
@Beethoven - I would agree with you in general about wanting to encourage small businesses.

However, if you look at Tom Druitt's twitter feed he seems to spend even more time than Kitkat posting pro-green propaganda. Perhaps if he focused more time on the company rather than ideologies he'd make a 'small business' grow into something even bigger?

Perhaps then he wouldn't have to rent out his spare bedroom (see the twitter feed January 21st) to help make ends meet.
Perhaps he actually cares about ideologies and doesn't particularly want a big business? Bigger is not always better as the complaints above about B&H illustrate.
@wendy-uk - perhaps so, but then maybe these are not the sort of small businesses we really need.

IMHO we need companies growing and investing and employing more people - not siphoning off money for pet ideological projects and then, perhaps, expecting authorities to turn a blind eye to defects because he is 'a small business'.

I would question how much 'Big Lemon'is subsidised by the city council - so how much of our taxes and rates are used to support his protests?
[quote][p][bold]wendy-uk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Beethoven[/bold] wrote: So it is said that it never was blocking a highway - O K that can be established. The defects, broken window & locker etc sound like the sort of thing that could happen in a rowdy demo. Give 'em a break.. no harm done , keep a watch on the buses and maintainance if you like . One might question his judgement in going to the event but the Govt is always banging on about encouraging small businesses , not strangling them.[/p][/quote]@Beethoven - I would agree with you in general about wanting to encourage small businesses. However, if you look at Tom Druitt's twitter feed he seems to spend even more time than Kitkat posting pro-green propaganda. Perhaps if he focused more time on the company rather than ideologies he'd make a 'small business' grow into something even bigger? Perhaps then he wouldn't have to rent out his spare bedroom (see the twitter feed January 21st) to help make ends meet.[/p][/quote]Perhaps he actually cares about ideologies and doesn't particularly want a big business? Bigger is not always better as the complaints above about B&H illustrate.[/p][/quote]@wendy-uk - perhaps so, but then maybe these are not the sort of small businesses we really need. IMHO we need companies growing and investing and employing more people - not siphoning off money for pet ideological projects and then, perhaps, expecting authorities to turn a blind eye to defects because he is 'a small business'. I would question how much 'Big Lemon'is subsidised by the city council - so how much of our taxes and rates are used to support his protests? pachallis
  • Score: 3

11:03am Fri 14 Mar 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

I hope the Big Lemon win. If there were major problems with safety of the fleet then that would be an issue, but it sounds like he is being targeted for attending a demo and we still live in a democracy don't we? If the damage was caused during the demo then I'm sure the bus would have been fixed before it went back on the road and carried passengers. Particularly if the door was broken and there was a smashed window. I smell a witch hunt.
I hope the Big Lemon win. If there were major problems with safety of the fleet then that would be an issue, but it sounds like he is being targeted for attending a demo and we still live in a democracy don't we? If the damage was caused during the demo then I'm sure the bus would have been fixed before it went back on the road and carried passengers. Particularly if the door was broken and there was a smashed window. I smell a witch hunt. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 1

1:27pm Fri 14 Mar 14

sabbat36 says...

Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly
B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country.

The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together.

So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.
Big Lemon did compete, on the 25 route.
Big Lemon was cheaper,green and all student friendly.

He lost money - students, his target group, didnt like his old stinky buses so voted with their feet and used the 25 - the 25 service did not match him on price. That's called competition, and on this route - B&H WON.

Now go home and get your shine box.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly[/p][/quote]B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country. The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together. So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.[/p][/quote]Big Lemon did compete, on the 25 route. Big Lemon was cheaper,green and all student friendly. He lost money - students, his target group, didnt like his old stinky buses so voted with their feet and used the 25 - the 25 service did not match him on price. That's called competition, and on this route - B&H WON. Now go home and get your shine box. sabbat36
  • Score: 3

2:52pm Fri 14 Mar 14

whatevernext2013 says...

Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.
thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly
B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country.

The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together.

So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.
yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town
No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!!
how many routes do the lemon run around brighton station ,go and check out the price of a day saver at the station before you make up any more stories
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Hands up who thinks the organisation that raised the complaint might well be B&H Buses ??? They hate competition and the council try their best to ensure there is NO competition.[/p][/quote]thats a bit odd as the council love all things green and in this case yellow ,and i don t think B & H BUS have any bases in manchester ,or did you not read the whole story ,and just comment blindly[/p][/quote]B&H Buses might not have bases in Manchester but the Go-Head Group who own them ( you clearly didn't know that ! ) have bases all over the country. The council ( of all colours ) have consistently made it difficult for another bus operator to compete with B&H Buses, They are in bed together. So no, I didn't just blindly comment, unlike you.[/p][/quote]yawn im a shareholder ,we also own trains ect did you know that ? its a shame you dont put as much effort in to bashing companies that do damage to the city instead of knocking one that bring mass employment to town[/p][/quote]No vested interest then ! B&H Buses killed off Blue Buses - strange how they reduced fares on all routes that the Lemon Bus ran in competition with them ? B&H Buses has a MONOPOLY !!!![/p][/quote]how many routes do the lemon run around brighton station ,go and check out the price of a day saver at the station before you make up any more stories whatevernext2013
  • Score: 1

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