David Cameron talks pensions in Peacehaven

David Cameron talks pensions in Peacehaven

David Cameron in Peacehaven

David Cameron talks pensions in Peacehaven

David Cameron talks pensions in Peacehaven

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WITH VIDEO: David Cameron has hinted that protecting pensioner benefits for wealthy OAPs would go into the Conservatives' next manifesto during a trip to Peacehaven.

The Prime Minister said not giving benefits, such as winter fuel allowances, bus passes and cold weather payments, to top-rate taxpayers would save only "a tiny amount".

Speaking to Saga members in Peacehaven, Mr Cameron said that cutting the benefits would also "introduce another complexity into the system".

He told the audience: "We will set our policy for the next Parliament at the next election. I don't want to pre-judge that.

"But the only thing I would say is that people think you save lots of money by not giving these benefits to upper-rate, top-rate taxpayers.

"You save a tiny amount of money and you always introduce another complexity into the system. We made our promises for this Parliament, we kept our promises, I'm proud of that."

Mr Cameron also suggested he would propose in the next manifesto to raise the inheritance tax threshold, saying it should only be paid by the rich.

Passing money down to their families helped contribute towards "a stronger society" and people should not be hit by inheritance tax where they have worked hard and saved.

He said: "Would I like to go further in future? Yes, I would. I believe in people being able to pass money down through the generations and pass things on to their children.

"I think you build a stronger society."

He added: "Inheritance tax should only be paid for by the rich. It shouldn't be paid for by people who have worked hard and saved, and bought a family house in, say, Peacehaven.

"So the ambition is still there and I would like to go further. It's better than it was, but it didn't make it into the coalition agreement.

It's something we will have to address in our manifesto."

The Prime Minister attempted to capitalise on the positive reception for the coalition's radical pensions shake-up, which includes moves to scrap rules that force most pensioners to use their direct contribution funds to buy an annuity, even though the rates can be poor.

Although most of the reforms will apply from April next year, a number will be brought in from Thursday to ensure people close to retirement do not miss out.

Individuals with total pension savings of £30,000 or less will be able to take the full amount as a lump sum, nearly double the current £18,000 limit.

The minimum annual income required to access a pension fund flexibly will also be cut from £20,000 to £12,000, while access rules will be eased so people with substantial pots can draw higher incomes.

Mr Cameron said the moves were to enable pensioners to have "greater freedom" over what to spend the money they have saved on.

He said it was "deeply condescending" to say that pensioners would blow their cash, adding: "They are not irresponsible people, they are responsible people, that's why they saved in the first place."

Asked whether the Government expected OAPs to use their retirement pot to buy properties to rent, and whether the Treasury had undertaken work on the possible impact on the housing market, Mr Cameron's official spokesman told a Westminster media briefing: "The Prime Minister's view is that it is right to give people greater choice.

"These are people who have been saving for many years in defined contribution schemes and we trust them in the decisions they make.

"It's not for me to give advice. It is about ensuring that good advice is available to everyone."

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12:36pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Devil In Red says...

Perhaps he was letting them know how he was going to continue conning them.
Perhaps he was letting them know how he was going to continue conning them. Devil In Red
  • Score: 4

12:45pm Mon 24 Mar 14

s&k says...

David Cameron talks sh*te in Peacehaven
David Cameron talks sh*te in Peacehaven s&k
  • Score: 1

12:48pm Mon 24 Mar 14

westpiergone says...

The headline should read " David Cameron talks testicles in Peacehaven"
(as usual)
The headline should read " David Cameron talks testicles in Peacehaven" (as usual) westpiergone
  • Score: -1

1:32pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Libertarian Patriot says...

David Cameron's manifestos are worthless. He breaks promises like a bean aficionado breaks wind. The Daily Telegraph ran an article back in 2012 and the had counted 37 U-turns as of that date. His latest con in the re-negotiation of the EU treaty so that we can ask the EU if we can restrict immigration and handing out benefits to the millions of immigrants who come here to live (and abandoning their homelands and, many times, families who are left alone to struggle).

Dave cannot be trusted o give UKIP a chance. UKIP have a great MP candidate to represent Peacehaven, Cllr Ian Buchannan, ex Peacehaven Mayor and town councillor and now serving for UKIP on the County Council. Ian has done a lot for Peacehaven with community projects such as a town crier, a war memorial in the park, meadow flowers at the entrance to Peacehaven from Newhaven.
David Cameron's manifestos are worthless. He breaks promises like a bean aficionado breaks wind. The Daily Telegraph ran an article back in 2012 and the had counted 37 U-turns as of that date. His latest con in the re-negotiation of the EU treaty so that we can ask the EU if we can restrict immigration and handing out benefits to the millions of immigrants who come here to live (and abandoning their homelands and, many times, families who are left alone to struggle). Dave cannot be trusted o give UKIP a chance. UKIP have a great MP candidate to represent Peacehaven, Cllr Ian Buchannan, ex Peacehaven Mayor and town councillor and now serving for UKIP on the County Council. Ian has done a lot for Peacehaven with community projects such as a town crier, a war memorial in the park, meadow flowers at the entrance to Peacehaven from Newhaven. Libertarian Patriot
  • Score: -1

2:18pm Mon 24 Mar 14

lavenderman says...

Cameron is now just blatantly protecting his core votes interests at the expense of wider society....what else would you expect!
Cameron is now just blatantly protecting his core votes interests at the expense of wider society....what else would you expect! lavenderman
  • Score: 8

2:31pm Mon 24 Mar 14

worthingite says...

well done david...
well done david... worthingite
  • Score: -4

2:37pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Warren Morgan says...

Nothing on the Sussex County Hospital funding, nothing on tackling the rising cost of living, under-employment, housing or any of the other issues facing Brighton, Hove and Peacehaven. His loyal backbencher Mr Kirby had him visit Peacehaven, where the Tories lost two seats to UKIP last May, to shore up the Tory vote amongst their key swing demographic, the over 60s.

How many people in the audience were Tory councillors and candidates? I can see at least three in the photos.
Nothing on the Sussex County Hospital funding, nothing on tackling the rising cost of living, under-employment, housing or any of the other issues facing Brighton, Hove and Peacehaven. His loyal backbencher Mr Kirby had him visit Peacehaven, where the Tories lost two seats to UKIP last May, to shore up the Tory vote amongst their key swing demographic, the over 60s. How many people in the audience were Tory councillors and candidates? I can see at least three in the photos. Warren Morgan
  • Score: 2

4:04pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Cyril Bolleaux says...

Warren Morgan wrote:
Nothing on the Sussex County Hospital funding, nothing on tackling the rising cost of living, under-employment, housing or any of the other issues facing Brighton, Hove and Peacehaven. His loyal backbencher Mr Kirby had him visit Peacehaven, where the Tories lost two seats to UKIP last May, to shore up the Tory vote amongst their key swing demographic, the over 60s. How many people in the audience were Tory councillors and candidates? I can see at least three in the photos.
All local Saga members were invited to this talk on pensions - including me - but I did not go. Cameron was talking about pensions not the NHS etc. I expect he mentioned how Labour destroyed private pension provision and pensioner's savings thus creating a cost of living crisis for pensioners. I don't vote Tory but your mob created the mess we are in not the Tories.
[quote][p][bold]Warren Morgan[/bold] wrote: Nothing on the Sussex County Hospital funding, nothing on tackling the rising cost of living, under-employment, housing or any of the other issues facing Brighton, Hove and Peacehaven. His loyal backbencher Mr Kirby had him visit Peacehaven, where the Tories lost two seats to UKIP last May, to shore up the Tory vote amongst their key swing demographic, the over 60s. How many people in the audience were Tory councillors and candidates? I can see at least three in the photos.[/p][/quote]All local Saga members were invited to this talk on pensions - including me - but I did not go. Cameron was talking about pensions not the NHS etc. I expect he mentioned how Labour destroyed private pension provision and pensioner's savings thus creating a cost of living crisis for pensioners. I don't vote Tory but your mob created the mess we are in not the Tories. Cyril Bolleaux
  • Score: 1

5:54pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Alison Smith says...

How do you know the Councillors are not Saga members Cllr Morgan (Labour Group Leader Brighton & Hove City Council) ?
How do you know the Councillors are not Saga members Cllr Morgan (Labour Group Leader Brighton & Hove City Council) ? Alison Smith
  • Score: 3

6:23pm Mon 24 Mar 14

HJarrs says...

Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
Warren Morgan wrote:
Nothing on the Sussex County Hospital funding, nothing on tackling the rising cost of living, under-employment, housing or any of the other issues facing Brighton, Hove and Peacehaven. His loyal backbencher Mr Kirby had him visit Peacehaven, where the Tories lost two seats to UKIP last May, to shore up the Tory vote amongst their key swing demographic, the over 60s. How many people in the audience were Tory councillors and candidates? I can see at least three in the photos.
All local Saga members were invited to this talk on pensions - including me - but I did not go. Cameron was talking about pensions not the NHS etc. I expect he mentioned how Labour destroyed private pension provision and pensioner's savings thus creating a cost of living crisis for pensioners. I don't vote Tory but your mob created the mess we are in not the Tories.
I bet he omitted to mention quantative easing that has depressed bonds and that have lowered pension returns or a green deal that is actually seeing fewer pensioners having their homes insulated than before. Now we have a Tory initiative for people to cash in their pension funds, which many will to pay bills today and subject themselves to poverty in later years or to be fleeced by unscrupulous sharks who will take them for a ride (and the wealthiest will benefit the most as ever from a massive tax free pension pot).
[quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Warren Morgan[/bold] wrote: Nothing on the Sussex County Hospital funding, nothing on tackling the rising cost of living, under-employment, housing or any of the other issues facing Brighton, Hove and Peacehaven. His loyal backbencher Mr Kirby had him visit Peacehaven, where the Tories lost two seats to UKIP last May, to shore up the Tory vote amongst their key swing demographic, the over 60s. How many people in the audience were Tory councillors and candidates? I can see at least three in the photos.[/p][/quote]All local Saga members were invited to this talk on pensions - including me - but I did not go. Cameron was talking about pensions not the NHS etc. I expect he mentioned how Labour destroyed private pension provision and pensioner's savings thus creating a cost of living crisis for pensioners. I don't vote Tory but your mob created the mess we are in not the Tories.[/p][/quote]I bet he omitted to mention quantative easing that has depressed bonds and that have lowered pension returns or a green deal that is actually seeing fewer pensioners having their homes insulated than before. Now we have a Tory initiative for people to cash in their pension funds, which many will to pay bills today and subject themselves to poverty in later years or to be fleeced by unscrupulous sharks who will take them for a ride (and the wealthiest will benefit the most as ever from a massive tax free pension pot). HJarrs
  • Score: -2

7:19pm Mon 24 Mar 14

Cyril Bolleaux says...

HJarrs wrote:
Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
Warren Morgan wrote:
Nothing on the Sussex County Hospital funding, nothing on tackling the rising cost of living, under-employment, housing or any of the other issues facing Brighton, Hove and Peacehaven. His loyal backbencher Mr Kirby had him visit Peacehaven, where the Tories lost two seats to UKIP last May, to shore up the Tory vote amongst their key swing demographic, the over 60s. How many people in the audience were Tory councillors and candidates? I can see at least three in the photos.
All local Saga members were invited to this talk on pensions - including me - but I did not go. Cameron was talking about pensions not the NHS etc. I expect he mentioned how Labour destroyed private pension provision and pensioner's savings thus creating a cost of living crisis for pensioners. I don't vote Tory but your mob created the mess we are in not the Tories.
I bet he omitted to mention quantative easing that has depressed bonds and that have lowered pension returns or a green deal that is actually seeing fewer pensioners having their homes insulated than before. Now we have a Tory initiative for people to cash in their pension funds, which many will to pay bills today and subject themselves to poverty in later years or to be fleeced by unscrupulous sharks who will take them for a ride (and the wealthiest will benefit the most as ever from a massive tax free pension pot).
Of course it depressed bonds that was the point. Pensioners suffered but if interest rates were high people on mortgages would suffer - someone had to suffer because of lefties spending money they did not have - living on credit. What we have at the moment is prudent pensioners living on meagre pensions who subsidise profligate wasters who never saved.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Warren Morgan[/bold] wrote: Nothing on the Sussex County Hospital funding, nothing on tackling the rising cost of living, under-employment, housing or any of the other issues facing Brighton, Hove and Peacehaven. His loyal backbencher Mr Kirby had him visit Peacehaven, where the Tories lost two seats to UKIP last May, to shore up the Tory vote amongst their key swing demographic, the over 60s. How many people in the audience were Tory councillors and candidates? I can see at least three in the photos.[/p][/quote]All local Saga members were invited to this talk on pensions - including me - but I did not go. Cameron was talking about pensions not the NHS etc. I expect he mentioned how Labour destroyed private pension provision and pensioner's savings thus creating a cost of living crisis for pensioners. I don't vote Tory but your mob created the mess we are in not the Tories.[/p][/quote]I bet he omitted to mention quantative easing that has depressed bonds and that have lowered pension returns or a green deal that is actually seeing fewer pensioners having their homes insulated than before. Now we have a Tory initiative for people to cash in their pension funds, which many will to pay bills today and subject themselves to poverty in later years or to be fleeced by unscrupulous sharks who will take them for a ride (and the wealthiest will benefit the most as ever from a massive tax free pension pot).[/p][/quote]Of course it depressed bonds that was the point. Pensioners suffered but if interest rates were high people on mortgages would suffer - someone had to suffer because of lefties spending money they did not have - living on credit. What we have at the moment is prudent pensioners living on meagre pensions who subsidise profligate wasters who never saved. Cyril Bolleaux
  • Score: 3

8:14pm Mon 24 Mar 14

HJarrs says...

Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
Warren Morgan wrote:
Nothing on the Sussex County Hospital funding, nothing on tackling the rising cost of living, under-employment, housing or any of the other issues facing Brighton, Hove and Peacehaven. His loyal backbencher Mr Kirby had him visit Peacehaven, where the Tories lost two seats to UKIP last May, to shore up the Tory vote amongst their key swing demographic, the over 60s. How many people in the audience were Tory councillors and candidates? I can see at least three in the photos.
All local Saga members were invited to this talk on pensions - including me - but I did not go. Cameron was talking about pensions not the NHS etc. I expect he mentioned how Labour destroyed private pension provision and pensioner's savings thus creating a cost of living crisis for pensioners. I don't vote Tory but your mob created the mess we are in not the Tories.
I bet he omitted to mention quantative easing that has depressed bonds and that have lowered pension returns or a green deal that is actually seeing fewer pensioners having their homes insulated than before. Now we have a Tory initiative for people to cash in their pension funds, which many will to pay bills today and subject themselves to poverty in later years or to be fleeced by unscrupulous sharks who will take them for a ride (and the wealthiest will benefit the most as ever from a massive tax free pension pot).
Of course it depressed bonds that was the point. Pensioners suffered but if interest rates were high people on mortgages would suffer - someone had to suffer because of lefties spending money they did not have - living on credit. What we have at the moment is prudent pensioners living on meagre pensions who subsidise profligate wasters who never saved.
Lefties? New Labour? Don't think so. They were undone by a financial crisis that has cost us all dear, they relied far too much on the city for revenue and deregulated, but the Tories would have gone further faster. Under Labour we were 12 hours from no money in the cash machines, if the Tories had been in power the cash machines would have run out and bank deposits and pensions gone for good.

Tories are friends only of wealthy pensioners.
[quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Warren Morgan[/bold] wrote: Nothing on the Sussex County Hospital funding, nothing on tackling the rising cost of living, under-employment, housing or any of the other issues facing Brighton, Hove and Peacehaven. His loyal backbencher Mr Kirby had him visit Peacehaven, where the Tories lost two seats to UKIP last May, to shore up the Tory vote amongst their key swing demographic, the over 60s. How many people in the audience were Tory councillors and candidates? I can see at least three in the photos.[/p][/quote]All local Saga members were invited to this talk on pensions - including me - but I did not go. Cameron was talking about pensions not the NHS etc. I expect he mentioned how Labour destroyed private pension provision and pensioner's savings thus creating a cost of living crisis for pensioners. I don't vote Tory but your mob created the mess we are in not the Tories.[/p][/quote]I bet he omitted to mention quantative easing that has depressed bonds and that have lowered pension returns or a green deal that is actually seeing fewer pensioners having their homes insulated than before. Now we have a Tory initiative for people to cash in their pension funds, which many will to pay bills today and subject themselves to poverty in later years or to be fleeced by unscrupulous sharks who will take them for a ride (and the wealthiest will benefit the most as ever from a massive tax free pension pot).[/p][/quote]Of course it depressed bonds that was the point. Pensioners suffered but if interest rates were high people on mortgages would suffer - someone had to suffer because of lefties spending money they did not have - living on credit. What we have at the moment is prudent pensioners living on meagre pensions who subsidise profligate wasters who never saved.[/p][/quote]Lefties? New Labour? Don't think so. They were undone by a financial crisis that has cost us all dear, they relied far too much on the city for revenue and deregulated, but the Tories would have gone further faster. Under Labour we were 12 hours from no money in the cash machines, if the Tories had been in power the cash machines would have run out and bank deposits and pensions gone for good. Tories are friends only of wealthy pensioners. HJarrs
  • Score: -3

11:29pm Mon 24 Mar 14

From beer to uncertainty says...

HJarrs wrote:
Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
Warren Morgan wrote:
Nothing on the Sussex County Hospital funding, nothing on tackling the rising cost of living, under-employment, housing or any of the other issues facing Brighton, Hove and Peacehaven. His loyal backbencher Mr Kirby had him visit Peacehaven, where the Tories lost two seats to UKIP last May, to shore up the Tory vote amongst their key swing demographic, the over 60s. How many people in the audience were Tory councillors and candidates? I can see at least three in the photos.
All local Saga members were invited to this talk on pensions - including me - but I did not go. Cameron was talking about pensions not the NHS etc. I expect he mentioned how Labour destroyed private pension provision and pensioner's savings thus creating a cost of living crisis for pensioners. I don't vote Tory but your mob created the mess we are in not the Tories.
I bet he omitted to mention quantative easing that has depressed bonds and that have lowered pension returns or a green deal that is actually seeing fewer pensioners having their homes insulated than before. Now we have a Tory initiative for people to cash in their pension funds, which many will to pay bills today and subject themselves to poverty in later years or to be fleeced by unscrupulous sharks who will take them for a ride (and the wealthiest will benefit the most as ever from a massive tax free pension pot).
Of course it depressed bonds that was the point. Pensioners suffered but if interest rates were high people on mortgages would suffer - someone had to suffer because of lefties spending money they did not have - living on credit. What we have at the moment is prudent pensioners living on meagre pensions who subsidise profligate wasters who never saved.
Lefties? New Labour? Don't think so. They were undone by a financial crisis that has cost us all dear, they relied far too much on the city for revenue and deregulated, but the Tories would have gone further faster. Under Labour we were 12 hours from no money in the cash machines, if the Tories had been in power the cash machines would have run out and bank deposits and pensions gone for good.

Tories are friends only of wealthy pensioners.
How sad. Two clever people in denial about a Ponzi scheme. MPs voted they receive a £40 million cash injection to such an elaborate ruse - only way it will 'work' for them? Check out how many actuaries have a pension. The government continues to advertise work place pensions - no promises though - or we might see the Courts making a similar judgement akin with wayward PPI insurance in the 90s.
Can Cyril remind everyone about the origins of Mr Cameron's wealth?
Thought not.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Warren Morgan[/bold] wrote: Nothing on the Sussex County Hospital funding, nothing on tackling the rising cost of living, under-employment, housing or any of the other issues facing Brighton, Hove and Peacehaven. His loyal backbencher Mr Kirby had him visit Peacehaven, where the Tories lost two seats to UKIP last May, to shore up the Tory vote amongst their key swing demographic, the over 60s. How many people in the audience were Tory councillors and candidates? I can see at least three in the photos.[/p][/quote]All local Saga members were invited to this talk on pensions - including me - but I did not go. Cameron was talking about pensions not the NHS etc. I expect he mentioned how Labour destroyed private pension provision and pensioner's savings thus creating a cost of living crisis for pensioners. I don't vote Tory but your mob created the mess we are in not the Tories.[/p][/quote]I bet he omitted to mention quantative easing that has depressed bonds and that have lowered pension returns or a green deal that is actually seeing fewer pensioners having their homes insulated than before. Now we have a Tory initiative for people to cash in their pension funds, which many will to pay bills today and subject themselves to poverty in later years or to be fleeced by unscrupulous sharks who will take them for a ride (and the wealthiest will benefit the most as ever from a massive tax free pension pot).[/p][/quote]Of course it depressed bonds that was the point. Pensioners suffered but if interest rates were high people on mortgages would suffer - someone had to suffer because of lefties spending money they did not have - living on credit. What we have at the moment is prudent pensioners living on meagre pensions who subsidise profligate wasters who never saved.[/p][/quote]Lefties? New Labour? Don't think so. They were undone by a financial crisis that has cost us all dear, they relied far too much on the city for revenue and deregulated, but the Tories would have gone further faster. Under Labour we were 12 hours from no money in the cash machines, if the Tories had been in power the cash machines would have run out and bank deposits and pensions gone for good. Tories are friends only of wealthy pensioners.[/p][/quote]How sad. Two clever people in denial about a Ponzi scheme. MPs voted they receive a £40 million cash injection to such an elaborate ruse - only way it will 'work' for them? Check out how many actuaries have a pension. The government continues to advertise work place pensions - no promises though - or we might see the Courts making a similar judgement akin with wayward PPI insurance in the 90s. Can Cyril remind everyone about the origins of Mr Cameron's wealth? Thought not. From beer to uncertainty
  • Score: 1

7:08am Tue 25 Mar 14

Plantpot says...

Whilst those looking for handouts won't agree, we've been lucky to have the Tories at the helm for this crisis. If we'd had Dumb and Dumber in charge from the Labour party we would be a third world country by now.
Whilst those looking for handouts won't agree, we've been lucky to have the Tories at the helm for this crisis. If we'd had Dumb and Dumber in charge from the Labour party we would be a third world country by now. Plantpot
  • Score: 0

7:28am Tue 25 Mar 14

HJarrs says...

Plantpot wrote:
Whilst those looking for handouts won't agree, we've been lucky to have the Tories at the helm for this crisis. If we'd had Dumb and Dumber in charge from the Labour party we would be a third world country by now.
Yep, takes something to inherit an economic recovery and turn it single handedly into 3 years of recession and flat lining economy while cutting support for the most vulnerable and delivering tax cuts for the wealthiest. Thank goodness for the Tories!
[quote][p][bold]Plantpot[/bold] wrote: Whilst those looking for handouts won't agree, we've been lucky to have the Tories at the helm for this crisis. If we'd had Dumb and Dumber in charge from the Labour party we would be a third world country by now.[/p][/quote]Yep, takes something to inherit an economic recovery and turn it single handedly into 3 years of recession and flat lining economy while cutting support for the most vulnerable and delivering tax cuts for the wealthiest. Thank goodness for the Tories! HJarrs
  • Score: -1

8:28am Tue 25 Mar 14

Cyril Bolleaux says...

HJarrs wrote:
Plantpot wrote: Whilst those looking for handouts won't agree, we've been lucky to have the Tories at the helm for this crisis. If we'd had Dumb and Dumber in charge from the Labour party we would be a third world country by now.
Yep, takes something to inherit an economic recovery and turn it single handedly into 3 years of recession and flat lining economy while cutting support for the most vulnerable and delivering tax cuts for the wealthiest. Thank goodness for the Tories!
Thank you Mr. Balls. The man who came up with the plan implemented by Brown to remove dividend credit tax repayment for pension funds. This deprived private sector pensions of tens of bllions which Brown/Balls used to fund a credit lead spending spree culminating in the biggest fnancial crisis since the depression. God help us all if the Green/Red fantasists get in power again - we've seen what damage they've done to Brighton.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Plantpot[/bold] wrote: Whilst those looking for handouts won't agree, we've been lucky to have the Tories at the helm for this crisis. If we'd had Dumb and Dumber in charge from the Labour party we would be a third world country by now.[/p][/quote]Yep, takes something to inherit an economic recovery and turn it single handedly into 3 years of recession and flat lining economy while cutting support for the most vulnerable and delivering tax cuts for the wealthiest. Thank goodness for the Tories![/p][/quote]Thank you Mr. Balls. The man who came up with the plan implemented by Brown to remove dividend credit tax repayment for pension funds. This deprived private sector pensions of tens of bllions which Brown/Balls used to fund a credit lead spending spree culminating in the biggest fnancial crisis since the depression. God help us all if the Green/Red fantasists get in power again - we've seen what damage they've done to Brighton. Cyril Bolleaux
  • Score: 0

4:10pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Warren Morgan says...

Alison Smith wrote:
How do you know the Councillors are not Saga members Cllr Morgan (Labour Group Leader Brighton & Hove City Council) ?
Yes, I am a Labour cllr. Not exactly a shock revelation to regulars on this site.

I didn't think Cllr Janio was old enough to be a SAGA member, nor former Tory Cllrs Maria Caulfield and Jan Young. Cllr John Commons might be, and Cllr Mears, and I think I spy Cllr Lynda Hyde there too, but probably not the two other Tory candidates in the pictures I've seen.

I suspect that without Tory Party members the audience would have been very thin indeed. That's despite some Tories in the city apparently knowing nothing about the PMs visit.
[quote][p][bold]Alison Smith[/bold] wrote: How do you know the Councillors are not Saga members Cllr Morgan (Labour Group Leader Brighton & Hove City Council) ?[/p][/quote]Yes, I am a Labour cllr. Not exactly a shock revelation to regulars on this site. I didn't think Cllr Janio was old enough to be a SAGA member, nor former Tory Cllrs Maria Caulfield and Jan Young. Cllr John Commons might be, and Cllr Mears, and I think I spy Cllr Lynda Hyde there too, but probably not the two other Tory candidates in the pictures I've seen. I suspect that without Tory Party members the audience would have been very thin indeed. That's despite some Tories in the city apparently knowing nothing about the PMs visit. Warren Morgan
  • Score: 0

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