Councillor apologises for false swastika claim

This tweet was sent during a full meeting of Brighton and Hove City Council last night

Councillor Ben Duncan later said it was "easy to wind Tory councillors up" - he later apologised for any offence caused

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GREEN councillor Ben Duncan was forced to apologise last night after falsely accusing former Brighton and Hove City Council leader Mary Mears of a wearing a swastika to a meeting.

During the meeting coun Duncan tweeted: "Tory councillor Mary Mears appears to be wearing swastika motif on necklace at @BrigtonHoveCC meeting. What's that about? A #masonic thing?"

But when the tweet was brought to the attention of coun Mears she pointed out that it was a St Brigid's cross and said his green councillor colleague Phelim MacCafferty would be able to explain what it was.

Coun Duncan wrote the tweet during a debate about the March for England and Conservative coun Graham Cox described the tweet as offensive.

The Green councillor later tweeted: "Gosh it’s easy to wind Tory councillors up here!”

Speaking after the meeting coun Mears said she had found the tweet "very offensive".

Counc Duncan apologised for any offence that he caused.

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9:51am Fri 28 Mar 14

ronrostog says...

Maybe he was stoned and couldn't see probably. Ben Duncan, what an utter ****.
Maybe he was stoned and couldn't see probably. Ben Duncan, what an utter ****. ronrostog
  • Score: 76

10:08am Fri 28 Mar 14

Alison Smith says...

This surely must be referred to the Council's Standards Committee? Appalling behaviour Cllr Duncan.
This surely must be referred to the Council's Standards Committee? Appalling behaviour Cllr Duncan. Alison Smith
  • Score: 77

10:12am Fri 28 Mar 14

Quiterie says...

It's not 'Bridget' Argus, it's 'Brigid' ...... not even close!

..... didn't the tweets give it away?
It's not 'Bridget' Argus, it's 'Brigid' ...... not even close! ..... didn't the tweets give it away? Quiterie
  • Score: 12

10:25am Fri 28 Mar 14

Martha Gunn says...

Is there no end to the antics of this Green Buffoon?

Surely he has decided to throw the towel in at the next election.

Roll on 2015
Is there no end to the antics of this Green Buffoon? Surely he has decided to throw the towel in at the next election. Roll on 2015 Martha Gunn
  • Score: 65

10:30am Fri 28 Mar 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

This is the man who tweeted that a faith school was a cult.
He is a nasty little bully who makes a mockery of equality, diversity and democracy.
Let's hope he disappears at the next election as he is another individual who adds nothing to the city.
This is the man who tweeted that a faith school was a cult. He is a nasty little bully who makes a mockery of equality, diversity and democracy. Let's hope he disappears at the next election as he is another individual who adds nothing to the city. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 72

10:35am Fri 28 Mar 14

mimseycal says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
This is the man who tweeted that a faith school was a cult.
He is a nasty little bully who makes a mockery of equality, diversity and democracy.
Let's hope he disappears at the next election as he is another individual who adds nothing to the city.
Not to forget an infantile eejit with the attention span of a goldfish with short term memory issues.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: This is the man who tweeted that a faith school was a cult. He is a nasty little bully who makes a mockery of equality, diversity and democracy. Let's hope he disappears at the next election as he is another individual who adds nothing to the city.[/p][/quote]Not to forget an infantile eejit with the attention span of a goldfish with short term memory issues. mimseycal
  • Score: 59

10:54am Fri 28 Mar 14

Fight_Back says...

Alison Smith wrote:
This surely must be referred to the Council's Standards Committee? Appalling behaviour Cllr Duncan.
Indeed. If Cllr Barnett gets hauled up in front of the kangaroo court so should idiot Duncan. Quite clearly he's not very well educated, he probably skipped lessons to join is violent mates Smash EDO on the "front line".

To then try and get out of his pathetic mistake by "joking" that Tories are easily wound up shows how stupid he really is. Let's see if he likes this - "You Cllr Duncan are a Nazi supporter" - I wonder if he laughs of that sort of accusation.

Time for him and his idiotic Greens to go ..... roll on 2015.
[quote][p][bold]Alison Smith[/bold] wrote: This surely must be referred to the Council's Standards Committee? Appalling behaviour Cllr Duncan.[/p][/quote]Indeed. If Cllr Barnett gets hauled up in front of the kangaroo court so should idiot Duncan. Quite clearly he's not very well educated, he probably skipped lessons to join is violent mates Smash EDO on the "front line". To then try and get out of his pathetic mistake by "joking" that Tories are easily wound up shows how stupid he really is. Let's see if he likes this - "You Cllr Duncan are a Nazi supporter" - I wonder if he laughs of that sort of accusation. Time for him and his idiotic Greens to go ..... roll on 2015. Fight_Back
  • Score: 67

11:06am Fri 28 Mar 14

Brighton90 says...

Alison Smith wrote:
This surely must be referred to the Council's Standards Committee? Appalling behaviour Cllr Duncan.
There's no point. There have been complaints about other comments he's made and the reply has been 'councillors are entitled to an opinion'. Unless you're Tory of course
[quote][p][bold]Alison Smith[/bold] wrote: This surely must be referred to the Council's Standards Committee? Appalling behaviour Cllr Duncan.[/p][/quote]There's no point. There have been complaints about other comments he's made and the reply has been 'councillors are entitled to an opinion'. Unless you're Tory of course Brighton90
  • Score: 46

11:06am Fri 28 Mar 14

Fight_Back says...

I've just read Cllr Duncan's tweets. He even has the audacity to poke fun at Cllr Janio asking for CCTV in a local park. Well Cllr Duncan - it is the local residents that have asked for this to assist with the problem with drug dealing. Maybe if you and your Green chums stopping treating running the council as a "lark" and instead listened to residents you would get why people like you are so despised and hated.
I've just read Cllr Duncan's tweets. He even has the audacity to poke fun at Cllr Janio asking for CCTV in a local park. Well Cllr Duncan - it is the local residents that have asked for this to assist with the problem with drug dealing. Maybe if you and your Green chums stopping treating running the council as a "lark" and instead listened to residents you would get why people like you are so despised and hated. Fight_Back
  • Score: 56

11:22am Fri 28 Mar 14

spa301 says...

Is there no end to this juvenile Green stupidity? I wasn't aware of this cross before but having looked at it, there is very little resemblance to a swastika.
Having once been a Green enthusiast I am now totally bemused by their complete mismanagement of this beautiful city. I cannot recall the 'town' looking so scruffy, rundown and dysfunctional. It is an utter disgrace. As for the i360 the decision to proceed with this folly is utter lunacy. Those that proposed and agreed it will be long gone when we're still paying for it.
Banish these idiots back to the obscurity they crawled out from. Shame on them and their apologists.
Is there no end to this juvenile Green stupidity? I wasn't aware of this cross before but having looked at it, there is very little resemblance to a swastika. Having once been a Green enthusiast I am now totally bemused by their complete mismanagement of this beautiful city. I cannot recall the 'town' looking so scruffy, rundown and dysfunctional. It is an utter disgrace. As for the i360 the decision to proceed with this folly is utter lunacy. Those that proposed and agreed it will be long gone when we're still paying for it. Banish these idiots back to the obscurity they crawled out from. Shame on them and their apologists. spa301
  • Score: 55

11:31am Fri 28 Mar 14

ronrostog says...

Fight_Back wrote:
I've just read Cllr Duncan's tweets. He even has the audacity to poke fun at Cllr Janio asking for CCTV in a local park. Well Cllr Duncan - it is the local residents that have asked for this to assist with the problem with drug dealing. Maybe if you and your Green chums stopping treating running the council as a "lark" and instead listened to residents you would get why people like you are so despised and hated.
There are one or two in the Greens who are decent people who try to see all sides but in the main they are utter knobs, silly little girls and boys who never grew up and are still stuck in their radical student days. I suspect half of 'em were in the crowd on QT last night. Since the article states that it was a March For England discussion that Duncan was attending then he must have been seeing Nazis everywhere. Oh the joys of paranoia after toking on the weed in the toilet breaks, eh?
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: I've just read Cllr Duncan's tweets. He even has the audacity to poke fun at Cllr Janio asking for CCTV in a local park. Well Cllr Duncan - it is the local residents that have asked for this to assist with the problem with drug dealing. Maybe if you and your Green chums stopping treating running the council as a "lark" and instead listened to residents you would get why people like you are so despised and hated.[/p][/quote]There are one or two in the Greens who are decent people who try to see all sides but in the main they are utter knobs, silly little girls and boys who never grew up and are still stuck in their radical student days. I suspect half of 'em were in the crowd on QT last night. Since the article states that it was a March For England discussion that Duncan was attending then he must have been seeing Nazis everywhere. Oh the joys of paranoia after toking on the weed in the toilet breaks, eh? ronrostog
  • Score: 48

1:06pm Fri 28 Mar 14

notaconspiracy says...

1. It's non of his business what other folk wear as jewellery.

2. PAY ATTENTION DURING COUNCIL MEETINGS. Put your 'phone away. Muppet!
1. It's non of his business what other folk wear as jewellery. 2. PAY ATTENTION DURING COUNCIL MEETINGS. Put your 'phone away. Muppet! notaconspiracy
  • Score: 41

1:10pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Fight_Back says...

Be interesting if he bothers to respond to my email - past experience of Green councillors suggests not. FYI Cllr Duncan - a Conservative councillor already has replied. Let's see if you have the guts to do so.
Be interesting if he bothers to respond to my email - past experience of Green councillors suggests not. FYI Cllr Duncan - a Conservative councillor already has replied. Let's see if you have the guts to do so. Fight_Back
  • Score: 37

1:29pm Fri 28 Mar 14

woodcroft says...

Fight_Back wrote:
Alison Smith wrote:
This surely must be referred to the Council's Standards Committee? Appalling behaviour Cllr Duncan.
Indeed. If Cllr Barnett gets hauled up in front of the kangaroo court so should idiot Duncan. Quite clearly he's not very well educated, he probably skipped lessons to join is violent mates Smash EDO on the "front line".

To then try and get out of his pathetic mistake by "joking" that Tories are easily wound up shows how stupid he really is. Let's see if he likes this - "You Cllr Duncan are a Nazi supporter" - I wonder if he laughs of that sort of accusation.

Time for him and his idiotic Greens to go ..... roll on 2015.
This is clearly an issue for the Standards Committee. I would think grounds for suspension and the Council's Law Officers must look at this. I wonder what his group leader and MP think! Problem is she has never responded to an email I have ever sent her !
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alison Smith[/bold] wrote: This surely must be referred to the Council's Standards Committee? Appalling behaviour Cllr Duncan.[/p][/quote]Indeed. If Cllr Barnett gets hauled up in front of the kangaroo court so should idiot Duncan. Quite clearly he's not very well educated, he probably skipped lessons to join is violent mates Smash EDO on the "front line". To then try and get out of his pathetic mistake by "joking" that Tories are easily wound up shows how stupid he really is. Let's see if he likes this - "You Cllr Duncan are a Nazi supporter" - I wonder if he laughs of that sort of accusation. Time for him and his idiotic Greens to go ..... roll on 2015.[/p][/quote]This is clearly an issue for the Standards Committee. I would think grounds for suspension and the Council's Law Officers must look at this. I wonder what his group leader and MP think! Problem is she has never responded to an email I have ever sent her ! woodcroft
  • Score: 39

1:44pm Fri 28 Mar 14

L bailey says...

The man was at a meeting and his attention should have been on the task in hand. NOT TWITtering. Says it al about this lot.
The man was at a meeting and his attention should have been on the task in hand. NOT TWITtering. Says it al about this lot. L bailey
  • Score: 41

2:01pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Martha Gunn says...

Do we pay for their mobile telephones?
Do we pay for their mobile telephones? Martha Gunn
  • Score: 32

2:03pm Fri 28 Mar 14

attilathehunny says...

Ben Duncans comments are what you may expect to hear from bored adolescents at the back of the class. Oh wait................
.........
Ben Duncans comments are what you may expect to hear from bored adolescents at the back of the class. Oh wait................ ......... attilathehunny
  • Score: 30

2:50pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Green_Girl_1990 says...

This is quite clearly a simple and honest mistake by Ben Duncan, and he has absolutely no reason whatsoever to apologise.

Trust the wretched Labour party to try and gain political capital over a simple misunderstanding by Ben.

Unfortunately, some individuals are determined to undermine the good work that Brighton Green Council has done for the city of Brighton
This is quite clearly a simple and honest mistake by Ben Duncan, and he has absolutely no reason whatsoever to apologise. Trust the wretched Labour party to try and gain political capital over a simple misunderstanding by Ben. Unfortunately, some individuals are determined to undermine the good work that Brighton Green Council has done for the city of Brighton Green_Girl_1990
  • Score: -63

3:04pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Hove Actually says...

Green_Girl_1990 wrote:
This is quite clearly a simple and honest mistake by Ben Duncan, and he has absolutely no reason whatsoever to apologise.

Trust the wretched Labour party to try and gain political capital over a simple misunderstanding by Ben.

Unfortunately, some individuals are determined to undermine the good work that Brighton Green Council has done for the city of Brighton
"Honest mistake"?
Was wondering how the LYING green spin machine was going to handle this.
Well green _girl....WE DO NOT BELIEVE YOU and his track record speaks for itself and in trying to defend him you do yourself no favors.
[quote][p][bold]Green_Girl_1990[/bold] wrote: This is quite clearly a simple and honest mistake by Ben Duncan, and he has absolutely no reason whatsoever to apologise. Trust the wretched Labour party to try and gain political capital over a simple misunderstanding by Ben. Unfortunately, some individuals are determined to undermine the good work that Brighton Green Council has done for the city of Brighton[/p][/quote]"Honest mistake"? Was wondering how the LYING green spin machine was going to handle this. Well green _girl....WE DO NOT BELIEVE YOU and his track record speaks for itself and in trying to defend him you do yourself no favors. Hove Actually
  • Score: 28

3:05pm Fri 28 Mar 14

spa301 says...

Green_Girl_1990 wrote:
This is quite clearly a simple and honest mistake by Ben Duncan, and he has absolutely no reason whatsoever to apologise.

Trust the wretched Labour party to try and gain political capital over a simple misunderstanding by Ben.

Unfortunately, some individuals are determined to undermine the good work that Brighton Green Council has done for the city of Brighton
All comments from Green girl are tongue in cheek to get a reaction so don't rise to it!
[quote][p][bold]Green_Girl_1990[/bold] wrote: This is quite clearly a simple and honest mistake by Ben Duncan, and he has absolutely no reason whatsoever to apologise. Trust the wretched Labour party to try and gain political capital over a simple misunderstanding by Ben. Unfortunately, some individuals are determined to undermine the good work that Brighton Green Council has done for the city of Brighton[/p][/quote]All comments from Green girl are tongue in cheek to get a reaction so don't rise to it! spa301
  • Score: 17

3:10pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Fight_Back says...

Green_Girl_1990 wrote:
This is quite clearly a simple and honest mistake by Ben Duncan, and he has absolutely no reason whatsoever to apologise.

Trust the wretched Labour party to try and gain political capital over a simple misunderstanding by Ben.

Unfortunately, some individuals are determined to undermine the good work that Brighton Green Council has done for the city of Brighton
I strongly suspect you are a troll but on the off chance you are not : Ben Duncan will respond to my email if it were an honest mistake. I won't hold my breath.
[quote][p][bold]Green_Girl_1990[/bold] wrote: This is quite clearly a simple and honest mistake by Ben Duncan, and he has absolutely no reason whatsoever to apologise. Trust the wretched Labour party to try and gain political capital over a simple misunderstanding by Ben. Unfortunately, some individuals are determined to undermine the good work that Brighton Green Council has done for the city of Brighton[/p][/quote]I strongly suspect you are a troll but on the off chance you are not : Ben Duncan will respond to my email if it were an honest mistake. I won't hold my breath. Fight_Back
  • Score: 18

3:30pm Fri 28 Mar 14

NickBrt says...

He should face the same punishment as Dawn Barnett. Is there no beginning to Duncan's talent?
He should face the same punishment as Dawn Barnett. Is there no beginning to Duncan's talent? NickBrt
  • Score: 30

3:30pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Vigilia says...

Mary Mears was wearing a swastika (more properly svastika in the original Sanskrit). What she wasn't wearing was the hated Nazi Hakenkreuz, their bastardisation of the svastika. The fact that the congenital buffoon Duncan doesn't know the difference speaks volumes for the man and the playground Party he represents.
Mary Mears was wearing a swastika (more properly svastika in the original Sanskrit). What she wasn't wearing was the hated Nazi Hakenkreuz, their bastardisation of the svastika. The fact that the congenital buffoon Duncan doesn't know the difference speaks volumes for the man and the playground Party he represents. Vigilia
  • Score: 18

4:00pm Fri 28 Mar 14

spa301 says...

Vigilia wrote:
Mary Mears was wearing a swastika (more properly svastika in the original Sanskrit). What she wasn't wearing was the hated Nazi Hakenkreuz, their bastardisation of the svastika. The fact that the congenital buffoon Duncan doesn't know the difference speaks volumes for the man and the playground Party he represents.
I thought it was a cross of St Brigid which isn't a swastika at all?
[quote][p][bold]Vigilia[/bold] wrote: Mary Mears was wearing a swastika (more properly svastika in the original Sanskrit). What she wasn't wearing was the hated Nazi Hakenkreuz, their bastardisation of the svastika. The fact that the congenital buffoon Duncan doesn't know the difference speaks volumes for the man and the playground Party he represents.[/p][/quote]I thought it was a cross of St Brigid which isn't a swastika at all? spa301
  • Score: 19

4:23pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Vigilia says...

spa301 wrote:
Vigilia wrote:
Mary Mears was wearing a swastika (more properly svastika in the original Sanskrit). What she wasn't wearing was the hated Nazi Hakenkreuz, their bastardisation of the svastika. The fact that the congenital buffoon Duncan doesn't know the difference speaks volumes for the man and the playground Party he represents.
I thought it was a cross of St Brigid which isn't a swastika at all?
That will teach me not to double check before posting. The "If" didn't print and you're absolutely right to say St Brigid's Cross is nothing like a swastika, merely a cruciform without bent arms.
I apologise for the confusion but not for my comment about the buffoon.
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vigilia[/bold] wrote: Mary Mears was wearing a swastika (more properly svastika in the original Sanskrit). What she wasn't wearing was the hated Nazi Hakenkreuz, their bastardisation of the svastika. The fact that the congenital buffoon Duncan doesn't know the difference speaks volumes for the man and the playground Party he represents.[/p][/quote]I thought it was a cross of St Brigid which isn't a swastika at all?[/p][/quote]That will teach me not to double check before posting. The "If" didn't print and you're absolutely right to say St Brigid's Cross is nothing like a swastika, merely a cruciform without bent arms. I apologise for the confusion but not for my comment about the buffoon. Vigilia
  • Score: 16

4:39pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Ania Green says...

All a bit overblown by The Argus. Ben said a stupid thing and has apologised. We should all just move on and get on with more serious matters.
All a bit overblown by The Argus. Ben said a stupid thing and has apologised. We should all just move on and get on with more serious matters. Ania Green
  • Score: -57

4:46pm Fri 28 Mar 14

wexler53 says...

Ben Duncan, is like his colleagues, an absolute twerp!!

The other parties really need to get their acts together to rally voters to actually get out and vote.

Hopefully, common sense will prevail at the next election and consign these idiots to the dim and distant past.
Ben Duncan, is like his colleagues, an absolute twerp!! The other parties really need to get their acts together to rally voters to actually get out and vote. Hopefully, common sense will prevail at the next election and consign these idiots to the dim and distant past. wexler53
  • Score: 29

5:10pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Herbertfarquarson says...

Twitter hasn't got that name for nothing, it enables any idiots thoughts to go public in an instant. Green councillors use of this medium has probably been a major contributor to their unpopularity. Their inexperience and incompetence is plain for all to see.
Twitter hasn't got that name for nothing, it enables any idiots thoughts to go public in an instant. Green councillors use of this medium has probably been a major contributor to their unpopularity. Their inexperience and incompetence is plain for all to see. Herbertfarquarson
  • Score: 24

5:13pm Fri 28 Mar 14

spa301 says...

Ania Green wrote:
All a bit overblown by The Argus. Ben said a stupid thing and has apologised. We should all just move on and get on with more serious matters.
Quite frankly I wouldn't expect a councillor to say such a stupid thing in the first place, and it surely indicates a very juvenile attitude not worthy of a member of the council. I personally think that suggesting a rival councillor is wearing a swastika to be a very serious slur.
What is it you wish us to move onto that is so much more serious?
[quote][p][bold]Ania Green[/bold] wrote: All a bit overblown by The Argus. Ben said a stupid thing and has apologised. We should all just move on and get on with more serious matters.[/p][/quote]Quite frankly I wouldn't expect a councillor to say such a stupid thing in the first place, and it surely indicates a very juvenile attitude not worthy of a member of the council. I personally think that suggesting a rival councillor is wearing a swastika to be a very serious slur. What is it you wish us to move onto that is so much more serious? spa301
  • Score: 28

5:19pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Ania Green says...

spa301 wrote:
Ania Green wrote:
All a bit overblown by The Argus. Ben said a stupid thing and has apologised. We should all just move on and get on with more serious matters.
Quite frankly I wouldn't expect a councillor to say such a stupid thing in the first place, and it surely indicates a very juvenile attitude not worthy of a member of the council. I personally think that suggesting a rival councillor is wearing a swastika to be a very serious slur.
What is it you wish us to move onto that is so much more serious?
Well we have the business of a city to rub which I believe is much more important than some silly offhand comment made in jest.
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ania Green[/bold] wrote: All a bit overblown by The Argus. Ben said a stupid thing and has apologised. We should all just move on and get on with more serious matters.[/p][/quote]Quite frankly I wouldn't expect a councillor to say such a stupid thing in the first place, and it surely indicates a very juvenile attitude not worthy of a member of the council. I personally think that suggesting a rival councillor is wearing a swastika to be a very serious slur. What is it you wish us to move onto that is so much more serious?[/p][/quote]Well we have the business of a city to rub which I believe is much more important than some silly offhand comment made in jest. Ania Green
  • Score: -35

5:26pm Fri 28 Mar 14

attilathehunny says...

Ania Green wrote:
spa301 wrote:
Ania Green wrote:
All a bit overblown by The Argus. Ben said a stupid thing and has apologised. We should all just move on and get on with more serious matters.
Quite frankly I wouldn't expect a councillor to say such a stupid thing in the first place, and it surely indicates a very juvenile attitude not worthy of a member of the council. I personally think that suggesting a rival councillor is wearing a swastika to be a very serious slur.
What is it you wish us to move onto that is so much more serious?
Well we have the business of a city to rub which I believe is much more important than some silly offhand comment made in jest.
Ah, that's probably where the Greens have got it wrong Ania. They are supposed to run the city, not rub it.
[quote][p][bold]Ania Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ania Green[/bold] wrote: All a bit overblown by The Argus. Ben said a stupid thing and has apologised. We should all just move on and get on with more serious matters.[/p][/quote]Quite frankly I wouldn't expect a councillor to say such a stupid thing in the first place, and it surely indicates a very juvenile attitude not worthy of a member of the council. I personally think that suggesting a rival councillor is wearing a swastika to be a very serious slur. What is it you wish us to move onto that is so much more serious?[/p][/quote]Well we have the business of a city to rub which I believe is much more important than some silly offhand comment made in jest.[/p][/quote]Ah, that's probably where the Greens have got it wrong Ania. They are supposed to run the city, not rub it. attilathehunny
  • Score: 25

5:46pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Tammy Flugh says...

Quiterie wrote:
It's not 'Bridget' Argus, it's 'Brigid' ...... not even close!

..... didn't the tweets give it away?
Close, and who knows how it was pronounced 1600 years ago? The alphabet used in Ireland then (Ogham) is extinct.
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: It's not 'Bridget' Argus, it's 'Brigid' ...... not even close! ..... didn't the tweets give it away?[/p][/quote]Close, and who knows how it was pronounced 1600 years ago? The alphabet used in Ireland then (Ogham) is extinct. Tammy Flugh
  • Score: -5

5:50pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Hovian Vibes says...

Wasn't St Brigit's cross the one claimed to protect from fire and evil? Well, it's not working then!
Wasn't St Brigit's cross the one claimed to protect from fire and evil? Well, it's not working then! Hovian Vibes
  • Score: 4

6:23pm Fri 28 Mar 14

mimseycal says...

Ania Green wrote:
spa301 wrote:
Ania Green wrote:
All a bit overblown by The Argus. Ben said a stupid thing and has apologised. We should all just move on and get on with more serious matters.
Quite frankly I wouldn't expect a councillor to say such a stupid thing in the first place, and it surely indicates a very juvenile attitude not worthy of a member of the council. I personally think that suggesting a rival councillor is wearing a swastika to be a very serious slur.
What is it you wish us to move onto that is so much more serious?
Well we have the business of a city to rub which I believe is much more important than some silly offhand comment made in jest.
So tweeting that a councillor is wearing a swastika is a jest but stating that a councillor had a golliwog as a child is enough to bring the wrath of the Standards Committee down on her ...

You really know very little about diversity and equality don't you.
[quote][p][bold]Ania Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ania Green[/bold] wrote: All a bit overblown by The Argus. Ben said a stupid thing and has apologised. We should all just move on and get on with more serious matters.[/p][/quote]Quite frankly I wouldn't expect a councillor to say such a stupid thing in the first place, and it surely indicates a very juvenile attitude not worthy of a member of the council. I personally think that suggesting a rival councillor is wearing a swastika to be a very serious slur. What is it you wish us to move onto that is so much more serious?[/p][/quote]Well we have the business of a city to rub which I believe is much more important than some silly offhand comment made in jest.[/p][/quote]So tweeting that a councillor is wearing a swastika is a jest but stating that a councillor had a golliwog as a child is enough to bring the wrath of the Standards Committee down on her ... You really know very little about diversity and equality don't you. mimseycal
  • Score: 25

6:37pm Fri 28 Mar 14

peebee9 says...

This is all part of a politicians code, shoot first and apologise later, when did facts get in the way of attempted points scoring.
This is all part of a politicians code, shoot first and apologise later, when did facts get in the way of attempted points scoring. peebee9
  • Score: 14

7:17pm Fri 28 Mar 14

VoxUnpopuli says...

Not sticking up for Cllr Duncan but he has a (sort of) point. Brigid's Cross is a Pre-Christian pagan good luck symbol appropriated by the Christian Church in a similar way to Christmas Trees and Easter Eggs. Both Brigid's Cross and the Swastika are around 10,000 years old (at least) and probably represent the Sun's rays. So when he said it looked like a Swastika he was right. You can find Swastikas in all sorts of places btw - Hindu Temples, Standing stones and so on.
Not sticking up for Cllr Duncan but he has a (sort of) point. Brigid's Cross is a Pre-Christian pagan good luck symbol appropriated by the Christian Church in a similar way to Christmas Trees and Easter Eggs. Both Brigid's Cross and the Swastika are around 10,000 years old (at least) and probably represent the Sun's rays. So when he said it looked like a Swastika he was right. You can find Swastikas in all sorts of places btw - Hindu Temples, Standing stones and so on. VoxUnpopuli
  • Score: -20

7:23pm Fri 28 Mar 14

mimseycal says...

VoxUnpopuli wrote:
Not sticking up for Cllr Duncan but he has a (sort of) point. Brigid's Cross is a Pre-Christian pagan good luck symbol appropriated by the Christian Church in a similar way to Christmas Trees and Easter Eggs. Both Brigid's Cross and the Swastika are around 10,000 years old (at least) and probably represent the Sun's rays. So when he said it looked like a Swastika he was right. You can find Swastikas in all sorts of places btw - Hindu Temples, Standing stones and so on.
He is a duly elected councillor attending a meeting. His place was to pay attention to what is going on in the meeting not what he thinks another councillor may or may not be wearing.
[quote][p][bold]VoxUnpopuli[/bold] wrote: Not sticking up for Cllr Duncan but he has a (sort of) point. Brigid's Cross is a Pre-Christian pagan good luck symbol appropriated by the Christian Church in a similar way to Christmas Trees and Easter Eggs. Both Brigid's Cross and the Swastika are around 10,000 years old (at least) and probably represent the Sun's rays. So when he said it looked like a Swastika he was right. You can find Swastikas in all sorts of places btw - Hindu Temples, Standing stones and so on.[/p][/quote]He is a duly elected councillor attending a meeting. His place was to pay attention to what is going on in the meeting not what he thinks another councillor may or may not be wearing. mimseycal
  • Score: 23

7:26pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Roundbill says...

Ania, you can rub my city any time ;-)
Ania, you can rub my city any time ;-) Roundbill
  • Score: 6

7:48pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Fight_Back says...

Ania Green wrote:
spa301 wrote:
Ania Green wrote:
All a bit overblown by The Argus. Ben said a stupid thing and has apologised. We should all just move on and get on with more serious matters.
Quite frankly I wouldn't expect a councillor to say such a stupid thing in the first place, and it surely indicates a very juvenile attitude not worthy of a member of the council. I personally think that suggesting a rival councillor is wearing a swastika to be a very serious slur.
What is it you wish us to move onto that is so much more serious?
Well we have the business of a city to rub which I believe is much more important than some silly offhand comment made in jest.
Maybe you might like to get him to respond to my email about belittling residents asking for CCTV then.
[quote][p][bold]Ania Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ania Green[/bold] wrote: All a bit overblown by The Argus. Ben said a stupid thing and has apologised. We should all just move on and get on with more serious matters.[/p][/quote]Quite frankly I wouldn't expect a councillor to say such a stupid thing in the first place, and it surely indicates a very juvenile attitude not worthy of a member of the council. I personally think that suggesting a rival councillor is wearing a swastika to be a very serious slur. What is it you wish us to move onto that is so much more serious?[/p][/quote]Well we have the business of a city to rub which I believe is much more important than some silly offhand comment made in jest.[/p][/quote]Maybe you might like to get him to respond to my email about belittling residents asking for CCTV then. Fight_Back
  • Score: 19

11:24pm Fri 28 Mar 14

Vigilia says...

Green_Girl_1990 wrote:
This is quite clearly a simple and honest mistake by Ben Duncan, and he has absolutely no reason whatsoever to apologise.

Trust the wretched Labour party to try and gain political capital over a simple misunderstanding by Ben.

Unfortunately, some individuals are determined to undermine the good work that Brighton Green Council has done for the city of Brighton
I do so hope your frontal lobotomy scar is healing satisfactorily.
Quite clearly a simpleton's mistake but barely honest.
[quote][p][bold]Green_Girl_1990[/bold] wrote: This is quite clearly a simple and honest mistake by Ben Duncan, and he has absolutely no reason whatsoever to apologise. Trust the wretched Labour party to try and gain political capital over a simple misunderstanding by Ben. Unfortunately, some individuals are determined to undermine the good work that Brighton Green Council has done for the city of Brighton[/p][/quote]I do so hope your frontal lobotomy scar is healing satisfactorily. Quite clearly a simpleton's mistake but barely honest. Vigilia
  • Score: 16

8:43am Sat 29 Mar 14

JHunty says...

Roundbill wrote:
Ania, you can rub my city any time ;-)
We'll if you don't mind being being rubbed by a fat balding sweaty internet shut in, that's up to you. Cos if you think that Ania is anything other than a bored bloke behind a computer you are going to be disappointed.
[quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: Ania, you can rub my city any time ;-)[/p][/quote]We'll if you don't mind being being rubbed by a fat balding sweaty internet shut in, that's up to you. Cos if you think that Ania is anything other than a bored bloke behind a computer you are going to be disappointed. JHunty
  • Score: 13

5:05pm Sat 29 Mar 14

peachesncream says...

When Ania Green posted that the Greens have the business of a city to "rub", firstly it could show her lack of attention to detail, but more likely it was a Freudian slip as the actions of the Greens show that they wish to rub out Brighton and all the good things we love about it and replace them with vanity projects with which we will have to live and for which we will be paying long after the Greens have gone.
When Ania Green posted that the Greens have the business of a city to "rub", firstly it could show her lack of attention to detail, but more likely it was a Freudian slip as the actions of the Greens show that they wish to rub out Brighton and all the good things we love about it and replace them with vanity projects with which we will have to live and for which we will be paying long after the Greens have gone. peachesncream
  • Score: 9

5:19pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Richada says...

Ania Green wrote:
spa301 wrote:
Ania Green wrote:
All a bit overblown by The Argus. Ben said a stupid thing and has apologised. We should all just move on and get on with more serious matters.
Quite frankly I wouldn't expect a councillor to say such a stupid thing in the first place, and it surely indicates a very juvenile attitude not worthy of a member of the council. I personally think that suggesting a rival councillor is wearing a swastika to be a very serious slur.
What is it you wish us to move onto that is so much more serious?
Well we have the business of a city to rub which I believe is much more important than some silly offhand comment made in jest.
The only thing that you and the greens are good for is rubbing the city up the wrong way.
[quote][p][bold]Ania Green[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ania Green[/bold] wrote: All a bit overblown by The Argus. Ben said a stupid thing and has apologised. We should all just move on and get on with more serious matters.[/p][/quote]Quite frankly I wouldn't expect a councillor to say such a stupid thing in the first place, and it surely indicates a very juvenile attitude not worthy of a member of the council. I personally think that suggesting a rival councillor is wearing a swastika to be a very serious slur. What is it you wish us to move onto that is so much more serious?[/p][/quote]Well we have the business of a city to rub which I believe is much more important than some silly offhand comment made in jest.[/p][/quote]The only thing that you and the greens are good for is rubbing the city up the wrong way. Richada
  • Score: 8

5:23pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Richada says...

Herbertfarquarson wrote:
Twitter hasn't got that name for nothing, it enables any idiots thoughts to go public in an instant. Green councillors use of this medium has probably been a major contributor to their unpopularity. Their inexperience and incompetence is plain for all to see.
I don't use Twitter and their incompetence is clear enough to see without it......

.......the Twiterati Greens though are clearly on a mission to self destruct.
[quote][p][bold]Herbertfarquarson[/bold] wrote: Twitter hasn't got that name for nothing, it enables any idiots thoughts to go public in an instant. Green councillors use of this medium has probably been a major contributor to their unpopularity. Their inexperience and incompetence is plain for all to see.[/p][/quote]I don't use Twitter and their incompetence is clear enough to see without it...... .......the Twiterati Greens though are clearly on a mission to self destruct. Richada
  • Score: 7

5:26pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Richada says...

NickBrt wrote:
He should face the same punishment as Dawn Barnett. Is there no beginning to Duncan's talent?
Any other outcome would be cast iron evidence (as if we needed it!) of pure double standards on the part of Cllr Duncan and his party..

No there isn't would appear to be the common-sense answer to your question here.
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: He should face the same punishment as Dawn Barnett. Is there no beginning to Duncan's talent?[/p][/quote]Any other outcome would be cast iron evidence (as if we needed it!) of pure double standards on the part of Cllr Duncan and his party.. No there isn't would appear to be the common-sense answer to your question here. Richada
  • Score: 5

12:05pm Tue 1 Apr 14

SRN BGH says...

If his remark had been made directly to a person in the street he would have been taken to task in court, it is a pity the Tory councillor has not made a formal complaint and hope she will do so.
If his remark had been made directly to a person in the street he would have been taken to task in court, it is a pity the Tory councillor has not made a formal complaint and hope she will do so. SRN BGH
  • Score: 4

9:12am Thu 3 Apr 14

Michael Inkpin-Leissner says...

What is wrong with some members of the Green Group in the Council?

the disrespect for the democratic institution of the city council of Brighton and Hove is appalling!

1. Cllr Duncan 's behaviour tops only a list of disrespectful behaviours by the Green Councillors. The historical background of the swastika symbol has been mentioned before, nonetheless it feels like Cllr Duncan wanted to push Cllr Mears in the Nazi corner by his utterly disgraceful tweets. Despite being most of the time of a different political opinion that Cllr Mears I am on this occasion on her side and support an investigation into Cllr Duncan's behaviour. Whilst I agree that twitter can be used to update the public on ongoing discussions in the council it should not distract Councillors from council business.

2. During the first council meeting regarding setting the budget for Brighton and Hove I noticed another disrespectful behaviour to the Council as institution. As a man of faith I was pleased to witness the opening prayer, on this occasion performed by an Anglican priest. But ion other occasions this in faith prayer is performed by members of other faith groups which indicates there is no discrimination to any group intended. it is about wishing the council a good and steady hand in its successful work. however the Greens lead by Council leader Jason Kitkat we're not in attendance. Even if you are an atheist it is a point of courtesy and respect towards the institution of the council to be in attendance.

3. We all remember the difficult discussions between all three group leaders regarding agreeing on a budget. But Green Councillors like Sven Rufus and Phelim Maccafferty amongst others ( see the argus report) were seen in shops nearby purchasing alcohol. Others were discussion what wine to have. in a difficult discussion about the city's future, how can say behave themselves in such a profane way?

As a Labour candidate for the ward of Hollingdean and Stanmer for 2015 I promise that I always shall respect the democratic institution and the traditions of Brighton and Hove City Council. I want to represent the residents of my ward in an honourable way.

Michael N. Inkpin-Leissner
Labour candidate for Hollingdean and Stanmer Ward, Brighton
What is wrong with some members of the Green Group in the Council? the disrespect for the democratic institution of the city council of Brighton and Hove is appalling! 1. Cllr Duncan 's behaviour tops only a list of disrespectful behaviours by the Green Councillors. The historical background of the swastika symbol has been mentioned before, nonetheless it feels like Cllr Duncan wanted to push Cllr Mears in the Nazi corner by his utterly disgraceful tweets. Despite being most of the time of a different political opinion that Cllr Mears I am on this occasion on her side and support an investigation into Cllr Duncan's behaviour. Whilst I agree that twitter can be used to update the public on ongoing discussions in the council it should not distract Councillors from council business. 2. During the first council meeting regarding setting the budget for Brighton and Hove I noticed another disrespectful behaviour to the Council as institution. As a man of faith I was pleased to witness the opening prayer, on this occasion performed by an Anglican priest. But ion other occasions this in faith prayer is performed by members of other faith groups which indicates there is no discrimination to any group intended. it is about wishing the council a good and steady hand in its successful work. however the Greens lead by Council leader Jason Kitkat we're not in attendance. Even if you are an atheist it is a point of courtesy and respect towards the institution of the council to be in attendance. 3. We all remember the difficult discussions between all three group leaders regarding agreeing on a budget. But Green Councillors like Sven Rufus and Phelim Maccafferty amongst others ( see the argus report) were seen in shops nearby purchasing alcohol. Others were discussion what wine to have. in a difficult discussion about the city's future, how can say behave themselves in such a profane way? As a Labour candidate for the ward of Hollingdean and Stanmer for 2015 I promise that I always shall respect the democratic institution and the traditions of Brighton and Hove City Council. I want to represent the residents of my ward in an honourable way. Michael N. Inkpin-Leissner Labour candidate for Hollingdean and Stanmer Ward, Brighton Michael Inkpin-Leissner
  • Score: 1

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