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Father refused alcohol in Worthing Co-Op after joking beer was for daughter

The Argus: Joke leaves beer-buying dad empty-handed Joke leaves beer-buying dad empty-handed

A father was refused alcohol at a supermarket for joking to his young daughter: “That's your beer sorted out”.

Kieran O'Sullivan, 48, from Hove, said he was refused four cans of lager at a Co-op supermarket because an “overzealous cashier” overheard the joke he cracked while queuing to pay for his groceries.

The incident took place at the supermarket's branch in Ham Road, Worthing, on Wednesday.

 


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Mr O'Sullivan, a teacher, said: “So there I am, this middle aged, middle income, average Joe, cracking an innocent joke to my entirely sober 12-year-old daughter when the cashier narrows her eyes and says, 'I'll have to see your ID, sir.'

“I asked if she was kidding, but then she asked to see my daughter's ID, which made me laugh.

“She said that by law, if you make a comment about purchasing alcohol for a child then they had to see both our IDs.

“I asked to speak to the manager but instead of using his judgement, he backed his employee up and said it was the law.

“I told them I was clearly not getting alcohol for my daughter and the law was all about judgement and about circumstances. But they refused.”

Mr O'Sullivan said he was told by the cashier he would have been asked for ID “even if a four-year-old points at a scratch card”.

He left the store empty handed and called Co-op head office to make a complaint - only to be told staff were sticking to the law.

He added: “I'll never go back there again. In 48 years on this planet I've never had anything like it.”

A spokesperson for The Co-operative Food said the sale was refused because Mr O'Sullivan's daughter was unable to prove she was over 18.

They said: “All our stores operate a Challenge 25 policy, where potential purchasers of age-restricted products who appear to be under the age of 25 years are asked to provide proof that they are 18 or over.

“This policy also applies to anyone who is with the purchaser at the time, if there is any possibility that the alcohol could be for consumption by a minor. If no proof of age can be provided, then the sale must be refused.

“On this occasion the young person accompanying the customer was unable to provide proof of being aged 18 or over, and so the sale was refused.”

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6:07am Fri 11 Apr 14

rogerthefish says...

Well what does he expect-idiot
Well what does he expect-idiot rogerthefish
  • Score: 34

6:42am Fri 11 Apr 14

menowhere says...

^^^^what he said. wazzock :D
^^^^what he said. wazzock :D menowhere
  • Score: 22

6:56am Fri 11 Apr 14

MikeyA says...

Perhaps, then, don't shop at the Co-Op if you are accompanied by small children.
Perhaps, then, don't shop at the Co-Op if you are accompanied by small children. MikeyA
  • Score: 5

7:11am Fri 11 Apr 14

Hector66 says...

come on this is ridiculous by the Co-Op, it is PC gone totally mad.

they should spend more time worrying about their own executives!
come on this is ridiculous by the Co-Op, it is PC gone totally mad. they should spend more time worrying about their own executives! Hector66
  • Score: 33

7:24am Fri 11 Apr 14

the red head says...

I don't think the coop had much choice in this case as it was possible other customers heard as they were queuing and they could have potentially been prosecuted - the coop, not the parent. The law is an **** on alcohol and minors. Since they brought in stricter age control, kids have taken to drinking sessions in parks, the beach and homes. Without any adult supervision, they are drinking themselves to oblivion and not only scaring themselves but, from scores of stories my own kids relate about their friends, they are being targeted by drugs dealers and suspected abusers. When I was a teenager so many years ago, I would sneak into the pub with a few mates, we'd only be able to afford a couple so we drank slowly to avoid getting kicked out. Kids nowadays get their alcohol from small newsagents (they all know which ones will sell to them), older siblings and parents. They do not have the example of adults drinking as a social event and so have no benchmark for what is a safe amount and what is going to make them end up in hospital having their stomach pumped. The nanny state got this one wrong in my opinion.
I don't think the coop had much choice in this case as it was possible other customers heard as they were queuing and they could have potentially been prosecuted - the coop, not the parent. The law is an **** on alcohol and minors. Since they brought in stricter age control, kids have taken to drinking sessions in parks, the beach and homes. Without any adult supervision, they are drinking themselves to oblivion and not only scaring themselves but, from scores of stories my own kids relate about their friends, they are being targeted by drugs dealers and suspected abusers. When I was a teenager so many years ago, I would sneak into the pub with a few mates, we'd only be able to afford a couple so we drank slowly to avoid getting kicked out. Kids nowadays get their alcohol from small newsagents (they all know which ones will sell to them), older siblings and parents. They do not have the example of adults drinking as a social event and so have no benchmark for what is a safe amount and what is going to make them end up in hospital having their stomach pumped. The nanny state got this one wrong in my opinion. the red head
  • Score: 32

7:46am Fri 11 Apr 14

HJarrs says...

While I bet they do some parents buying alcohol for kids. In this case there is clearly a sense of humour failure and this is something we should rightly guard against.
While I bet they do some parents buying alcohol for kids. In this case there is clearly a sense of humour failure and this is something we should rightly guard against. HJarrs
  • Score: 22

8:18am Fri 11 Apr 14

IratusFurcifer says...

Makes you want to go in to the Co - Op buy alcohol and as you walk out say "the kids are really looking forward to this"

The staff were only doing as their job requires but where does it all end......?
With political correctness and a nanny state we are going to create a society of idiots who can't think for themselves and assess situations safely and intelligently because they never had to and have not developed the skills to do so.
The world a going to become a dangerous place filled with morons. Who am I kidding, it's already getting there.
Makes you want to go in to the Co - Op buy alcohol and as you walk out say "the kids are really looking forward to this" The staff were only doing as their job requires but where does it all end......? With political correctness and a nanny state we are going to create a society of idiots who can't think for themselves and assess situations safely and intelligently because they never had to and have not developed the skills to do so. The world a going to become a dangerous place filled with morons. Who am I kidding, it's already getting there. IratusFurcifer
  • Score: 33

8:18am Fri 11 Apr 14

Ex Tiger says...

How is this news worthy...
News flash
Co op follow the law after stupid man makes a bad joke
How is this news worthy... News flash Co op follow the law after stupid man makes a bad joke Ex Tiger
  • Score: 19

8:24am Fri 11 Apr 14

qm says...

Hardly surprising the Co-op Group is in the deep doodoo that it finds itself in. Crass stupidity would have appeared to have seeped down to the shop floor from those responsible for the governance of this once successful business!
Hardly surprising the Co-op Group is in the deep doodoo that it finds itself in. Crass stupidity would have appeared to have seeped down to the shop floor from those responsible for the governance of this once successful business! qm
  • Score: -4

8:31am Fri 11 Apr 14

Jamesthegill says...

I understand the Co-op's position completely, the law is the law and whether the comment is clearly meant in jest or not, I doubt the cashier would risk their job for this. Mr O'Sullivan perhaps doesn't realise that not everybody has the job security of a middle class teacher.

I suggest if Mr O'Sullivan is going to make jokes to cashiers in the future he tries to make them funny, or at least original - I suspect that he is the sort to joke that an item "must be free" if a barcode doesn't scan as well. It's not funny, it's not clever and after hearing it 10 times a day I'm not surprised the cashier reacted this way either.
I understand the Co-op's position completely, the law is the law and whether the comment is clearly meant in jest or not, I doubt the cashier would risk their job for this. Mr O'Sullivan perhaps doesn't realise that not everybody has the job security of a middle class teacher. I suggest if Mr O'Sullivan is going to make jokes to cashiers in the future he tries to make them funny, or at least original - I suspect that he is the sort to joke that an item "must be free" if a barcode doesn't scan as well. It's not funny, it's not clever and after hearing it 10 times a day I'm not surprised the cashier reacted this way either. Jamesthegill
  • Score: 19

8:32am Fri 11 Apr 14

hoveguyactually says...

Well, if he said it was for his "duaghter", that is hardly surprising.

It may not have been a funny joke. In fact it was a silly remark to make, but, do we really want to live in a world where this ludicrous PC behaviour takes over following a trivial remark? Whatever happened to sheer common sense, as well as humour? This country becomes more like the old Soviet Union every day. It won't be long before such a customer will be carted off by the police.
Well, if he said it was for his "duaghter", that is hardly surprising. It may not have been a funny joke. In fact it was a silly remark to make, but, do we really want to live in a world where this ludicrous PC behaviour takes over following a trivial remark? Whatever happened to sheer common sense, as well as humour? This country becomes more like the old Soviet Union every day. It won't be long before such a customer will be carted off by the police. hoveguyactually
  • Score: 8

8:39am Fri 11 Apr 14

Baffled of Brighton says...

Ridiculous that he is making such a massive issue over it, they followed the law. He is a teacher and should have known better, and to complain to the head office, and snitch to the Argus...
The Co-op have well trained staff in that store, finally a good news stoy about them
Ridiculous that he is making such a massive issue over it, they followed the law. He is a teacher and should have known better, and to complain to the head office, and snitch to the Argus... The Co-op have well trained staff in that store, finally a good news stoy about them Baffled of Brighton
  • Score: 8

8:47am Fri 11 Apr 14

Sam is on fire says...

Perhaps this genleman isn't the best person to be teaching impressionable children if he thinks a shop following the law to prevent them from getting alcohol is badd thing. I hope his employers see this article and come to the same conclusion.
Perhaps this genleman isn't the best person to be teaching impressionable children if he thinks a shop following the law to prevent them from getting alcohol is badd thing. I hope his employers see this article and come to the same conclusion. Sam is on fire
  • Score: -2

9:01am Fri 11 Apr 14

Skidrow says...

Oscar Wilde said that rules are for the guidance of gentlemen and the obedience of fools. The humourless cashier (soon to be out of a job due to no sales = no profits = no wages) needs to go on the course about using discretion. The manager ought to have seen the bigger picture of his store losing £5k's turnover a year too. A customer is entitled to make crap jokes, the staff are there to give CUSTOMER SERVICE. I'm with qm on this, no wonder the co op is going down the drain with leadership like that.
Oscar Wilde said that rules are for the guidance of gentlemen and the obedience of fools. The humourless cashier (soon to be out of a job due to no sales = no profits = no wages) needs to go on the course about using discretion. The manager ought to have seen the bigger picture of his store losing £5k's turnover a year too. A customer is entitled to make crap jokes, the staff are there to give CUSTOMER SERVICE. I'm with qm on this, no wonder the co op is going down the drain with leadership like that. Skidrow
  • Score: 13

9:06am Fri 11 Apr 14

Rockansky says...

If I were his Head Teacher he'd be sacked! This odious cretin thinks that it's funny to joke about such things, obviously totally ignorant to the facts of the law and the potential fines and penalties faced by the store and the individual employee, probably just trying to keep his/her badly paid job.

To cap it all he then disclaims total responsibility for his actions and whines to a local newspaper. What an utterly spineless moron and a bad example for his own children and those he teaches.

Grow up, take responsibility, quit whining, be grateful that you still have a job!
If I were his Head Teacher he'd be sacked! This odious cretin thinks that it's funny to joke about such things, obviously totally ignorant to the facts of the law and the potential fines and penalties faced by the store and the individual employee, probably just trying to keep his/her badly paid job. To cap it all he then disclaims total responsibility for his actions and whines to a local newspaper. What an utterly spineless moron and a bad example for his own children and those he teaches. Grow up, take responsibility, quit whining, be grateful that you still have a job! Rockansky
  • Score: -5

9:09am Fri 11 Apr 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Idiot and this one is a teacher. The cashier wasn't to know this bloke wasn't grooming some random kid with booze and gifts. Doesn't he read newspapers?
Idiot and this one is a teacher. The cashier wasn't to know this bloke wasn't grooming some random kid with booze and gifts. Doesn't he read newspapers? Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: -10

9:12am Fri 11 Apr 14

hammerfan says...

Unfortunately we live in an age where humour does not count!
The store and its employees could have got into trouble if the minor had got her hands on alcohol. The shop could lose its licence. You have to blame the insanity of Political correctness and the fear of litigation.
You cannot crack jokes at work. The word accident is now obsolete! If someone got struck by lightning someone would try to sue God!
Unfortunately we live in an age where humour does not count! The store and its employees could have got into trouble if the minor had got her hands on alcohol. The shop could lose its licence. You have to blame the insanity of Political correctness and the fear of litigation. You cannot crack jokes at work. The word accident is now obsolete! If someone got struck by lightning someone would try to sue God! hammerfan
  • Score: 2

10:13am Fri 11 Apr 14

hubby says...

I made an equally funny joke at Gatwick Airport about having a bomb in my bag.
My bruises didn't go away for weeks.
I made an equally funny joke at Gatwick Airport about having a bomb in my bag. My bruises didn't go away for weeks. hubby
  • Score: 26

10:35am Fri 11 Apr 14

ThinkBrighton says...

When the coop gives out it's financial results next week you will see why actions like this hit their business.
The coop closed it's branch in Hove and you will now see Waitrose turn it into a gold mine, because they run it like a proper shop with caring staff and an eye toward the customer
Unlike the coop who have an unbelivable outlook which is very customer negative, and the quality of most of their staff is a joke,
When the coop gives out it's financial results next week you will see why actions like this hit their business. The coop closed it's branch in Hove and you will now see Waitrose turn it into a gold mine, because they run it like a proper shop with caring staff and an eye toward the customer Unlike the coop who have an unbelivable outlook which is very customer negative, and the quality of most of their staff is a joke, ThinkBrighton
  • Score: 12

10:55am Fri 11 Apr 14

fasttrack says...

Doesn't Waitrose operate to the same rules on selling alcohol to customers with minors then? Or don't the rules apply to 'posh' people?
Doesn't Waitrose operate to the same rules on selling alcohol to customers with minors then? Or don't the rules apply to 'posh' people? fasttrack
  • Score: 4

11:00am Fri 11 Apr 14

andyfm says...

ThinkBrighton wrote:
When the coop gives out it's financial results next week you will see why actions like this hit their business.
The coop closed it's branch in Hove and you will now see Waitrose turn it into a gold mine, because they run it like a proper shop with caring staff and an eye toward the customer
Unlike the coop who have an unbelivable outlook which is very customer negative, and the quality of most of their staff is a joke,
I think you will find that the Hove store was just that....a large store.
The Coop have been going down the convenience shop route for
the past few years!!
As many comments have said "THE LAW IS THE LAW" and for a "TEACHER"
to say what is not even a funny joke and then go moaning to the local paper.
just sums up what an idiot he really is!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]ThinkBrighton[/bold] wrote: When the coop gives out it's financial results next week you will see why actions like this hit their business. The coop closed it's branch in Hove and you will now see Waitrose turn it into a gold mine, because they run it like a proper shop with caring staff and an eye toward the customer Unlike the coop who have an unbelivable outlook which is very customer negative, and the quality of most of their staff is a joke,[/p][/quote]I think you will find that the Hove store was just that....a large store. The Coop have been going down the convenience shop route for the past few years!! As many comments have said "THE LAW IS THE LAW" and for a "TEACHER" to say what is not even a funny joke and then go moaning to the local paper. just sums up what an idiot he really is!!!!! andyfm
  • Score: -8

11:05am Fri 11 Apr 14

SteveHove says...

Is it actually illegal to buy alcohol for your children???? So long as you are supervising them.... I can remember drinking alcohol at family gatherings when younger over seen by my parents surly they must have bought it somewhere.... Should I expect them to be arrested now?????
Is it actually illegal to buy alcohol for your children???? So long as you are supervising them.... I can remember drinking alcohol at family gatherings when younger over seen by my parents surly they must have bought it somewhere.... Should I expect them to be arrested now????? SteveHove
  • Score: 1

11:29am Fri 11 Apr 14

BHAFC M says...

Duaghter and Larger. Dear oh dear!!
Duaghter and Larger. Dear oh dear!! BHAFC M
  • Score: 6

12:08pm Fri 11 Apr 14

P.Dant says...

This man was a 'test shopper',sent by the authorities.The Co-op responded correctly.
This man was a 'test shopper',sent by the authorities.The Co-op responded correctly. P.Dant
  • Score: 5

12:21pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Gribbet says...

Wrong joke at the wrong time. Annoying, but also understandable where blanket rules are concerned.

Many a true word hath been spoken in jest.
Wrong joke at the wrong time. Annoying, but also understandable where blanket rules are concerned. Many a true word hath been spoken in jest. Gribbet
  • Score: 7

12:33pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Andy R says...

Lots of completely wrong use of the term "political correctness" here. Not selling alcohol to minors isn't a matter of "political correctness". It's the law.

Whether or not the employee was "over-zealous", at the very point a shop assistant is considering whether they need to check for ID is not the cleverest time to come out with a "joke" like that.
Lots of completely wrong use of the term "political correctness" here. Not selling alcohol to minors isn't a matter of "political correctness". It's the law. Whether or not the employee was "over-zealous", at the very point a shop assistant is considering whether they need to check for ID is not the cleverest time to come out with a "joke" like that. Andy R
  • Score: 8

2:48pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Fairfax Aches says...

this guy looks like a drugged up alcoholic, or worse. IS there any proof this was actually HIS child?
this guy looks like a drugged up alcoholic, or worse. IS there any proof this was actually HIS child? Fairfax Aches
  • Score: -11

2:58pm Fri 11 Apr 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

The Co-op stopped my friend from buying cigarettes despite him being in his forties. He was buying them for a friend and they didn't have the right brand, so he called her to check what she wanted instead. The cashier said he might be buying them for a minor and refused to serve him. So don't joke in the Co-op or call anyone, or you won't get served!
The Co-op stopped my friend from buying cigarettes despite him being in his forties. He was buying them for a friend and they didn't have the right brand, so he called her to check what she wanted instead. The cashier said he might be buying them for a minor and refused to serve him. So don't joke in the Co-op or call anyone, or you won't get served! thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 12

2:59pm Fri 11 Apr 14

jaisyja says...

Ex Tiger wrote:
How is this news worthy...
News flash
Co op follow the law after stupid man makes a bad joke
The retailer lied, it is not illegal to sell alchol to an adult if they think it is for a minor, the retailer has the right to refuse however it is not the law. The man would have been breaking the law if he did SELL it to his daughter.
https://www.drinkawa
re.co.uk/check-the-f
acts/alcohol-and-the
-law/the-law-on-alco
hol-and-under-18s
[quote][p][bold]Ex Tiger[/bold] wrote: How is this news worthy... News flash Co op follow the law after stupid man makes a bad joke[/p][/quote]The retailer lied, it is not illegal to sell alchol to an adult if they think it is for a minor, the retailer has the right to refuse however it is not the law. The man would have been breaking the law if he did SELL it to his daughter. https://www.drinkawa re.co.uk/check-the-f acts/alcohol-and-the -law/the-law-on-alco hol-and-under-18s jaisyja
  • Score: 4

3:00pm Fri 11 Apr 14

jaisyja says...

The retailer lied, it is not illegal to sell alchol to an adult if they think it is for a minor, the retailer has the right to refuse however it is not the law. The man would have been breaking the law if he did SELL it to his daughter..
https://www.drinkawa
re.co.uk/check-the-f
acts/alcohol-and-the
-law/the-law-on-alco
hol-and-under-18s
The retailer lied, it is not illegal to sell alchol to an adult if they think it is for a minor, the retailer has the right to refuse however it is not the law. The man would have been breaking the law if he did SELL it to his daughter.. https://www.drinkawa re.co.uk/check-the-f acts/alcohol-and-the -law/the-law-on-alco hol-and-under-18s jaisyja
  • Score: -4

3:51pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Fallen Angel7211 says...

It is against the law (1) (2):
To sell alcohol to someone under 18 anywhere.
For an adult to buy or attempt to buy alcohol on behalf of someone under 18. (retailers can reserve the right to refuse the sale of alcohol to an adult if they’re accompanied by a child and think the alcohol is being bought for the child.)
For someone under 18 to buy alcohol, attempt to buy alcohol or to be sold alcohol.
For someone under 18 to drink alcohol in licensed premises, except where the child is 16 or 17 years old and accompanied by an adult. In this case it is legal for them to drink, but not buy, beer, wine and cider with a table meal.
For an adult to buy alcohol for someone under 18 for consumption on licensed premises, except as above.
To give children alcohol if they are under five.

maybe you read what it says on the website before you post.
the cashier was right to refuse that sale and the bloke going to the newspaper and headoffice just makes him look stupid
It is against the law (1) (2): To sell alcohol to someone under 18 anywhere. For an adult to buy or attempt to buy alcohol on behalf of someone under 18. (retailers can reserve the right to refuse the sale of alcohol to an adult if they’re accompanied by a child and think the alcohol is being bought for the child.) For someone under 18 to buy alcohol, attempt to buy alcohol or to be sold alcohol. For someone under 18 to drink alcohol in licensed premises, except where the child is 16 or 17 years old and accompanied by an adult. In this case it is legal for them to drink, but not buy, beer, wine and cider with a table meal. For an adult to buy alcohol for someone under 18 for consumption on licensed premises, except as above. To give children alcohol if they are under five. maybe you read what it says on the website before you post. the cashier was right to refuse that sale and the bloke going to the newspaper and headoffice just makes him look stupid Fallen Angel7211
  • Score: 8

4:20pm Fri 11 Apr 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

The Co-op are going down the pan faster than a volcano.

Their customer service is the worst.

Bye bye co op we won't miss you!
The Co-op are going down the pan faster than a volcano. Their customer service is the worst. Bye bye co op we won't miss you! getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: 4

4:35pm Fri 11 Apr 14

birthofanorange says...

Sorry folks, but I'm siding with the customer. What kind of idiot cannot judge for themselves the difference between a guy and his daughter not just buying beer, but groceries also, and an adult attempting to buy alcohol for an underage person?
Do we REALLY have to watch what we say when buying some bloody bits at a supermarket?
The cashier really must have a very sad life to have reacted this way. Still, what comes around goes around, as they say.
Sorry folks, but I'm siding with the customer. What kind of idiot cannot judge for themselves the difference between a guy and his daughter not just buying beer, but groceries also, and an adult attempting to buy alcohol for an underage person? Do we REALLY have to watch what we say when buying some bloody bits at a supermarket? The cashier really must have a very sad life to have reacted this way. Still, what comes around goes around, as they say. birthofanorange
  • Score: 12

5:01pm Fri 11 Apr 14

skippy981 says...

Act like a plonker then you get treated like a plonker. But the best bit is he then complains to a newspaper and worst of all they print the story.
Act like a plonker then you get treated like a plonker. But the best bit is he then complains to a newspaper and worst of all they print the story. skippy981
  • Score: 2

5:18pm Fri 11 Apr 14

spa301 says...

fasttrack wrote:
Doesn't Waitrose operate to the same rules on selling alcohol to customers with minors then? Or don't the rules apply to 'posh' people?
I've shopped at Waitrose for years but had no idea I had to be posh!
I guess I'll have to use Tesco's in future.
[quote][p][bold]fasttrack[/bold] wrote: Doesn't Waitrose operate to the same rules on selling alcohol to customers with minors then? Or don't the rules apply to 'posh' people?[/p][/quote]I've shopped at Waitrose for years but had no idea I had to be posh! I guess I'll have to use Tesco's in future. spa301
  • Score: 7

7:13pm Fri 11 Apr 14

hubby says...

Using Aldi or Lidl will prove that you are not posh.
Waitrose, Sainsburys and of course Marks and Spencer food shopping makes you posh.Tescos and Asda make you middle class.
Using Aldi or Lidl will prove that you are not posh. Waitrose, Sainsburys and of course Marks and Spencer food shopping makes you posh.Tescos and Asda make you middle class. hubby
  • Score: 1

8:24pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Fight_Back says...

Given the experience of pathetic service I've received from Co-op staff in the past I'd suggest they concentrate on serving customers quickly and not moaning that they were doing something else when called to the tills to assist. The Co-op has the worst staff bar none when it comes to supermarkets and Mr O'Sullivan will probably be better off using any of the other supermarkets if he wants decent, quick service ( without the stupidity of the cashier that served him in the Co-op ).
Given the experience of pathetic service I've received from Co-op staff in the past I'd suggest they concentrate on serving customers quickly and not moaning that they were doing something else when called to the tills to assist. The Co-op has the worst staff bar none when it comes to supermarkets and Mr O'Sullivan will probably be better off using any of the other supermarkets if he wants decent, quick service ( without the stupidity of the cashier that served him in the Co-op ). Fight_Back
  • Score: 4

10:22pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Roundbill says...

A friend and I were asked for ID when buying alcohol in Lewes Road Sainsbury's a few weeks ago. We're both balding men in our forties. I'd like to say I was flattered, but the woman running the self-scan is a bit, um, "special needs" so it wasn't really a compliment about our youthful looks.
Anyway - the ironic thing is, we went to Co-op up the road and bought our booze there, no problem. Funny old world, innit?
A friend and I were asked for ID when buying alcohol in Lewes Road Sainsbury's a few weeks ago. We're both balding men in our forties. I'd like to say I was flattered, but the woman running the self-scan is a bit, um, "special needs" so it wasn't really a compliment about our youthful looks. Anyway - the ironic thing is, we went to Co-op up the road and bought our booze there, no problem. Funny old world, innit? Roundbill
  • Score: -1

10:48pm Fri 11 Apr 14

jiving says...

I'm in the supermarkets side on this one. Its the law - it's like going to an airport and saying you have a bomb and then being shocked when you get arrested
I'm in the supermarkets side on this one. Its the law - it's like going to an airport and saying you have a bomb and then being shocked when you get arrested jiving
  • Score: 3

12:42am Sat 12 Apr 14

kmhove says...

Hmmm.. Judging from the comments here, making jokes is bad but calling people odious cretins and so on is good! Is there ANYTHING left that we can joke about without somebody complaining or exercising "the law" or has the British sense of humour finally been quashed? What a miserable society we are becoming and how over sensitive! (I've probably said something there that will upset somebody but that's today for you!)
Hmmm.. Judging from the comments here, making jokes is bad but calling people odious cretins and so on is good! Is there ANYTHING left that we can joke about without somebody complaining or exercising "the law" or has the British sense of humour finally been quashed? What a miserable society we are becoming and how over sensitive! (I've probably said something there that will upset somebody but that's today for you!) kmhove
  • Score: 7

5:26am Sat 12 Apr 14

zamora says...

Skidrow wrote:
Oscar Wilde said that rules are for the guidance of gentlemen and the obedience of fools. The humourless cashier (soon to be out of a job due to no sales = no profits = no wages) needs to go on the course about using discretion. The manager ought to have seen the bigger picture of his store losing £5k's turnover a year too. A customer is entitled to make crap jokes, the staff are there to give CUSTOMER SERVICE. I'm with qm on this, no wonder the co op is going down the drain with leadership like that.
There is no "discretion" where the sale of alcohol is concerned. By making that sale that checkout operator would have clearly broken the law and been liable to an £80 fine and a criminal record.
Maybe the manager was looking at the "BIGGER PICTURE" by protecting his alcohol license and his employees rather than make a quick sale.
Alcohol laws may seem tough and not very politically correct but they are in place to protect young and vulnerable people from the dangers of alcohol abuse.
[quote][p][bold]Skidrow[/bold] wrote: Oscar Wilde said that rules are for the guidance of gentlemen and the obedience of fools. The humourless cashier (soon to be out of a job due to no sales = no profits = no wages) needs to go on the course about using discretion. The manager ought to have seen the bigger picture of his store losing £5k's turnover a year too. A customer is entitled to make crap jokes, the staff are there to give CUSTOMER SERVICE. I'm with qm on this, no wonder the co op is going down the drain with leadership like that.[/p][/quote]There is no "discretion" where the sale of alcohol is concerned. By making that sale that checkout operator would have clearly broken the law and been liable to an £80 fine and a criminal record. Maybe the manager was looking at the "BIGGER PICTURE" by protecting his alcohol license and his employees rather than make a quick sale. Alcohol laws may seem tough and not very politically correct but they are in place to protect young and vulnerable people from the dangers of alcohol abuse. zamora
  • Score: 5

9:26am Sat 12 Apr 14

FOSeagull says...

Ex Tiger wrote:
How is this news worthy...
News flash
Co op follow the law after stupid man makes a bad joke
Lighten up.....it was a joke. You'd need to be a pretty miserable soul to not consider that. The Co-ops lost it's way.
[quote][p][bold]Ex Tiger[/bold] wrote: How is this news worthy... News flash Co op follow the law after stupid man makes a bad joke[/p][/quote]Lighten up.....it was a joke. You'd need to be a pretty miserable soul to not consider that. The Co-ops lost it's way. FOSeagull
  • Score: 4

10:35am Sat 12 Apr 14

Zorniza says...

the red head wrote:
I don't think the coop had much choice in this case as it was possible other customers heard as they were queuing and they could have potentially been prosecuted - the coop, not the parent. The law is an **** on alcohol and minors. Since they brought in stricter age control, kids have taken to drinking sessions in parks, the beach and homes. Without any adult supervision, they are drinking themselves to oblivion and not only scaring themselves but, from scores of stories my own kids relate about their friends, they are being targeted by drugs dealers and suspected abusers. When I was a teenager so many years ago, I would sneak into the pub with a few mates, we'd only be able to afford a couple so we drank slowly to avoid getting kicked out. Kids nowadays get their alcohol from small newsagents (they all know which ones will sell to them), older siblings and parents. They do not have the example of adults drinking as a social event and so have no benchmark for what is a safe amount and what is going to make them end up in hospital having their stomach pumped. The nanny state got this one wrong in my opinion.
Welcome to the new baby boomers' world.
You knew that pubs were not for minors - nowadays they have whole families in pub - this is hypocritical. I used to think even the children's corner was not in the spirit of what a pub is about. Now we have to constantly put up with screeming families in pubs as well as everywhere you go - parks, streets, cares and especially the Jubilee library.
[quote][p][bold]the red head[/bold] wrote: I don't think the coop had much choice in this case as it was possible other customers heard as they were queuing and they could have potentially been prosecuted - the coop, not the parent. The law is an **** on alcohol and minors. Since they brought in stricter age control, kids have taken to drinking sessions in parks, the beach and homes. Without any adult supervision, they are drinking themselves to oblivion and not only scaring themselves but, from scores of stories my own kids relate about their friends, they are being targeted by drugs dealers and suspected abusers. When I was a teenager so many years ago, I would sneak into the pub with a few mates, we'd only be able to afford a couple so we drank slowly to avoid getting kicked out. Kids nowadays get their alcohol from small newsagents (they all know which ones will sell to them), older siblings and parents. They do not have the example of adults drinking as a social event and so have no benchmark for what is a safe amount and what is going to make them end up in hospital having their stomach pumped. The nanny state got this one wrong in my opinion.[/p][/quote]Welcome to the new baby boomers' world. You knew that pubs were not for minors - nowadays they have whole families in pub - this is hypocritical. I used to think even the children's corner was not in the spirit of what a pub is about. Now we have to constantly put up with screeming families in pubs as well as everywhere you go - parks, streets, cares and especially the Jubilee library. Zorniza
  • Score: 6

10:46am Sat 12 Apr 14

Zorniza says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
Well, if he said it was for his "duaghter", that is hardly surprising.

It may not have been a funny joke. In fact it was a silly remark to make, but, do we really want to live in a world where this ludicrous PC behaviour takes over following a trivial remark? Whatever happened to sheer common sense, as well as humour? This country becomes more like the old Soviet Union every day. It won't be long before such a customer will be carted off by the police.
Once a colleague was asked to play the wicked stap mother in a play. She refused because she was not a wicked step mother.
This story demonstrates a problem: people are unable to think in abstract terms - literally she was being labelled a step mother, literally he said the booze was for his daughter. But abstract thinking is needed to interpret facts in order to arrive at information on which to base your judgement.
The observers in this case are misinterpreting the facts, inventing intention (to give alcohol to his daughter ) yet he had no such intention. To understand a joke you need abstract thinking.
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: Well, if he said it was for his "duaghter", that is hardly surprising. It may not have been a funny joke. In fact it was a silly remark to make, but, do we really want to live in a world where this ludicrous PC behaviour takes over following a trivial remark? Whatever happened to sheer common sense, as well as humour? This country becomes more like the old Soviet Union every day. It won't be long before such a customer will be carted off by the police.[/p][/quote]Once a colleague was asked to play the wicked stap mother in a play. She refused because she was not a wicked step mother. This story demonstrates a problem: people are unable to think in abstract terms - literally she was being labelled a step mother, literally he said the booze was for his daughter. But abstract thinking is needed to interpret facts in order to arrive at information on which to base your judgement. The observers in this case are misinterpreting the facts, inventing intention (to give alcohol to his daughter ) yet he had no such intention. To understand a joke you need abstract thinking. Zorniza
  • Score: -4

10:49am Sat 12 Apr 14

Zorniza says...

Andy R wrote:
Lots of completely wrong use of the term "political correctness" here. Not selling alcohol to minors isn't a matter of "political correctness". It's the law.

Whether or not the employee was "over-zealous", at the very point a shop assistant is considering whether they need to check for ID is not the cleverest time to come out with a "joke" like that.
She was selling to the father.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: Lots of completely wrong use of the term "political correctness" here. Not selling alcohol to minors isn't a matter of "political correctness". It's the law. Whether or not the employee was "over-zealous", at the very point a shop assistant is considering whether they need to check for ID is not the cleverest time to come out with a "joke" like that.[/p][/quote]She was selling to the father. Zorniza
  • Score: 1

12:43pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Fallen Angel7211 says...

people who have never and will never work as a cashier will always back people like this bloke because they dont not understand what it is like for us cashier having to determine peoples ages, like 12 year olds that make them selfs look older. But then they also sit there and moan because there's so many people on job seekers. If the cashier had been caught selling the alcohol to the bloke after saying what he did joke or not by police or trading standards, not only would she have been pulled off the tills making longer waiting times to e served, sh would have also been given an £80 on the spot fine, possibility of a criminal record, up to a £5000 fine after it going to court or even a prison sentence. and she would have lost her job which would mean tax payers moaning that there paying for people like her not having a job. Also the store may have had the selling licence taken away so then the "I'm not going to said shop because i cant buy my tipple" moaning starts.
people who have never and will never work as a cashier will always back people like this bloke because they dont not understand what it is like for us cashier having to determine peoples ages, like 12 year olds that make them selfs look older. But then they also sit there and moan because there's so many people on job seekers. If the cashier had been caught selling the alcohol to the bloke after saying what he did joke or not by police or trading standards, not only would she have been pulled off the tills making longer waiting times to e served, sh would have also been given an £80 on the spot fine, possibility of a criminal record, up to a £5000 fine after it going to court or even a prison sentence. and she would have lost her job which would mean tax payers moaning that there paying for people like her not having a job. Also the store may have had the selling licence taken away so then the "I'm not going to said shop because i cant buy my tipple" moaning starts. Fallen Angel7211
  • Score: 4

1:05pm Sat 12 Apr 14

singsong102 says...

Some of the comments here are absolutely awful.
This article shows what a dysfunctional society we live in.
It would seem some membersof the public think it is ok to make scathing comments and assumptions about an individual and judgements about their profession just because they can.
It really is a shameful state of affairs ,that we cannot make a joke without it being turned into some type of crime,and what makes it a million times worse is the way some people who have decided to comment, lack the insight to realise is that Mr O'Sullivan didn't do anything wrong.Are we really as boring and tedious as some of the posts on here ,quick ,quick call the sense of humour police ...off to buy a lottery ticket for my unborn child at the ...... Co- op !!!
Some of the comments here are absolutely awful. This article shows what a dysfunctional society we live in. It would seem some membersof the public think it is ok to make scathing comments and assumptions about an individual and judgements about their profession just because they can. It really is a shameful state of affairs ,that we cannot make a joke without it being turned into some type of crime,and what makes it a million times worse is the way some people who have decided to comment, lack the insight to realise is that Mr O'Sullivan didn't do anything wrong.Are we really as boring and tedious as some of the posts on here ,quick ,quick call the sense of humour police ...off to buy a lottery ticket for my unborn child at the ...... Co- op !!! singsong102
  • Score: 5

2:44pm Sat 12 Apr 14

german visitor says...

Thought british humor is known to be very special.
Reading this makes me careful now.
I am planning to come over with m 14 year old son soon.
Need to find out more about the rights and duty here.
Not to end up in the police station.
Greet from Male- mummy. Who is often joking with their sons
(This postic is supposed to be a little bit ironc. Just in case it is not propperly understood our here.)
Thought british humor is known to be very special. Reading this makes me careful now. I am planning to come over with m 14 year old son soon. Need to find out more about the rights and duty here. Not to end up in the police station. Greet from Male- mummy. Who is often joking with their sons (This postic is supposed to be a little bit ironc. Just in case it is not propperly understood our here.) german visitor
  • Score: 0

3:28pm Sat 12 Apr 14

John Steed says...

some one is confusing policy with law.
some one is confusing policy with law. John Steed
  • Score: 6

5:16pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Strangely Brown says...

John Steed wrote:
some one is confusing policy with law.
Exactly. The vast majority of the contributors here appear to have absolutely no idea of what is and isn't law, and that, if the article is to be believed, includes the Co-Op manager.

What may be company policy is not the same as it being law. Some people would do well to educate themselves a bit better before posting in a public forum.

https://www.gov.uk/g
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[quote][p][bold]John Steed[/bold] wrote: some one is confusing policy with law.[/p][/quote]Exactly. The vast majority of the contributors here appear to have absolutely no idea of what is and isn't law, and that, if the article is to be believed, includes the Co-Op manager. What may be company policy is not the same as it being law. Some people would do well to educate themselves a bit better before posting in a public forum. https://www.gov.uk/g overnment/publicatio ns/new-conditions-fo r-licensed-premises- in-england-and-wales -age-verification-an d-smaller-measures Strangely Brown
  • Score: 7

6:36pm Sat 12 Apr 14

melee says...

It may not have been a particularly funny or original joke to us but he was joking with his child, it may well have seemed funny to her! I would have thought that the fact that he was joking about giving her the alcohol made it unlikely that he was going to actually do it, but then judging by this nobody teases their children any more or is allowed to have any fun whatsoever without being called names. Would anyone hearing that exchange between father and daughter have honestly not realised he was teasing her to make her laugh? I despair, really.
The 'joke' is that the girl was out innocently shopping with her dad, while many other kids her age are probably drinking themselves senseless in the local park while their parents neither know nor care where they are.
It may not have been a particularly funny or original joke to us but he was joking with his child, it may well have seemed funny to her! I would have thought that the fact that he was joking about giving her the alcohol made it unlikely that he was going to actually do it, but then judging by this nobody teases their children any more or is allowed to have any fun whatsoever without being called names. Would anyone hearing that exchange between father and daughter have honestly not realised he was teasing her to make her laugh? I despair, really. The 'joke' is that the girl was out innocently shopping with her dad, while many other kids her age are probably drinking themselves senseless in the local park while their parents neither know nor care where they are. melee
  • Score: 7

4:56pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Mr chock says...

rogerthefish wrote:
Well what does he expect-idiot
i noticed he was a teacher .. This type of lesson is a lesson for us all buy wine and spirits for kids without telling the shop .. its what all "children smokers" do..sent an adult in to buy the cigs... the next thing might be they buy the booze and have to drink it in front of the supermarket manager ?? ohh what a nanny STATE ...
[quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: Well what does he expect-idiot[/p][/quote]i noticed he was a teacher .. This type of lesson is a lesson for us all buy wine and spirits for kids without telling the shop .. its what all "children smokers" do..sent an adult in to buy the cigs... the next thing might be they buy the booze and have to drink it in front of the supermarket manager ?? ohh what a nanny STATE ... Mr chock
  • Score: -3

6:40pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Levent says...

JOBS WORTH WITH A BADGE, ALTHOUGH THE IDIOT DAD SHOULD'VE KNOWN BETTER, SO CAN'T COMPLAIN!
JOBS WORTH WITH A BADGE, ALTHOUGH THE IDIOT DAD SHOULD'VE KNOWN BETTER, SO CAN'T COMPLAIN! Levent
  • Score: -1

5:02am Mon 14 Apr 14

Cave Johnson says...

I bet this d1ck also makes jokes about bombs at airports. And crying to the argus is just pathetic.
I bet this d1ck also makes jokes about bombs at airports. And crying to the argus is just pathetic. Cave Johnson
  • Score: -2

7:04am Mon 14 Apr 14

cliff.smogo says...

If you're selling alcohol, you're supposed to know the law around selling alcohol. It is not illegal to sell alcohol to someone over 18 if you think they're going to give it to someone under 18, because it's not illegal to give people aged 5-18 alcohol. They just can't buy it themselves.
If you're selling alcohol, you're supposed to know the law around selling alcohol. It is not illegal to sell alcohol to someone over 18 if you think they're going to give it to someone under 18, because it's not illegal to give people aged 5-18 alcohol. They just can't buy it themselves. cliff.smogo
  • Score: 2

9:30am Mon 14 Apr 14

ThinkBrighton says...

fasttrack wrote:
Doesn't Waitrose operate to the same rules on selling alcohol to customers with minors then? Or don't the rules apply to 'posh' people?
The law is the law, and I am sure Waitrose abide by the law.
But try going to the new Waitrose the doors a quite wide so you should be able to get that large chip on your shoulder through them.
[quote][p][bold]fasttrack[/bold] wrote: Doesn't Waitrose operate to the same rules on selling alcohol to customers with minors then? Or don't the rules apply to 'posh' people?[/p][/quote]The law is the law, and I am sure Waitrose abide by the law. But try going to the new Waitrose the doors a quite wide so you should be able to get that large chip on your shoulder through them. ThinkBrighton
  • Score: 3

10:45am Mon 14 Apr 14

brightman says...

I use this shop and know exactly who the shop worker was. I have seen her ask for ID from people who are clearly over age so this story has given me a laugh, thanks Argus. Having said that, she's done nothing wrong here.

The beers colder and cheaper in the corner shop anyway.
I use this shop and know exactly who the shop worker was. I have seen her ask for ID from people who are clearly over age so this story has given me a laugh, thanks Argus. Having said that, she's done nothing wrong here. The beers colder and cheaper in the corner shop anyway. brightman
  • Score: 3

12:43pm Mon 14 Apr 14

TheDrive says...

Roundbill wrote:
A friend and I were asked for ID when buying alcohol in Lewes Road Sainsbury's a few weeks ago. We're both balding men in our forties. I'd like to say I was flattered, but the woman running the self-scan is a bit, um, "special needs" so it wasn't really a compliment about our youthful looks.
Anyway - the ironic thing is, we went to Co-op up the road and bought our booze there, no problem. Funny old world, innit?
Joking about "special needs" isn't funny, no.
[quote][p][bold]Roundbill[/bold] wrote: A friend and I were asked for ID when buying alcohol in Lewes Road Sainsbury's a few weeks ago. We're both balding men in our forties. I'd like to say I was flattered, but the woman running the self-scan is a bit, um, "special needs" so it wasn't really a compliment about our youthful looks. Anyway - the ironic thing is, we went to Co-op up the road and bought our booze there, no problem. Funny old world, innit?[/p][/quote]Joking about "special needs" isn't funny, no. TheDrive
  • Score: 0

4:45pm Mon 14 Apr 14

runnergirl says...

Fallen Angel7211 wrote:
people who have never and will never work as a cashier will always back people like this bloke because they dont not understand what it is like for us cashier having to determine peoples ages, like 12 year olds that make them selfs look older. But then they also sit there and moan because there's so many people on job seekers. If the cashier had been caught selling the alcohol to the bloke after saying what he did joke or not by police or trading standards, not only would she have been pulled off the tills making longer waiting times to e served, sh would have also been given an £80 on the spot fine, possibility of a criminal record, up to a £5000 fine after it going to court or even a prison sentence. and she would have lost her job which would mean tax payers moaning that there paying for people like her not having a job. Also the store may have had the selling licence taken away so then the "I'm not going to said shop because i cant buy my tipple" moaning starts.
Opinion seems to be fairly evenly divided on this page, but I'm inclined to come down on the side of Fallen Angel - apparently the only contributor here with direct experience of facing this kind of situation. Clearly the teacher was irresponsible not to consider that the cashier could have been talking to a 'mystery shopper' or someone from Head Office posing as an ordinary customer, checking that their staff were working to a level of compliance with the law and/or company policy. In such circumstances he/she could have lost their job, and therefore did the right thing by involving the manager. It's a bit of an overreaction on the part of this teacher to flounce out and say he's never going to shop there again!
[quote][p][bold]Fallen Angel7211[/bold] wrote: people who have never and will never work as a cashier will always back people like this bloke because they dont not understand what it is like for us cashier having to determine peoples ages, like 12 year olds that make them selfs look older. But then they also sit there and moan because there's so many people on job seekers. If the cashier had been caught selling the alcohol to the bloke after saying what he did joke or not by police or trading standards, not only would she have been pulled off the tills making longer waiting times to e served, sh would have also been given an £80 on the spot fine, possibility of a criminal record, up to a £5000 fine after it going to court or even a prison sentence. and she would have lost her job which would mean tax payers moaning that there paying for people like her not having a job. Also the store may have had the selling licence taken away so then the "I'm not going to said shop because i cant buy my tipple" moaning starts.[/p][/quote]Opinion seems to be fairly evenly divided on this page, but I'm inclined to come down on the side of Fallen Angel - apparently the only contributor here with direct experience of facing this kind of situation. Clearly the teacher was irresponsible not to consider that the cashier could have been talking to a 'mystery shopper' or someone from Head Office posing as an ordinary customer, checking that their staff were working to a level of compliance with the law and/or company policy. In such circumstances he/she could have lost their job, and therefore did the right thing by involving the manager. It's a bit of an overreaction on the part of this teacher to flounce out and say he's never going to shop there again! runnergirl
  • Score: 0

5:10pm Mon 14 Apr 14

whatevernext2013 says...

runnergirl wrote:
Fallen Angel7211 wrote:
people who have never and will never work as a cashier will always back people like this bloke because they dont not understand what it is like for us cashier having to determine peoples ages, like 12 year olds that make them selfs look older. But then they also sit there and moan because there's so many people on job seekers. If the cashier had been caught selling the alcohol to the bloke after saying what he did joke or not by police or trading standards, not only would she have been pulled off the tills making longer waiting times to e served, sh would have also been given an £80 on the spot fine, possibility of a criminal record, up to a £5000 fine after it going to court or even a prison sentence. and she would have lost her job which would mean tax payers moaning that there paying for people like her not having a job. Also the store may have had the selling licence taken away so then the "I'm not going to said shop because i cant buy my tipple" moaning starts.
Opinion seems to be fairly evenly divided on this page, but I'm inclined to come down on the side of Fallen Angel - apparently the only contributor here with direct experience of facing this kind of situation. Clearly the teacher was irresponsible not to consider that the cashier could have been talking to a 'mystery shopper' or someone from Head Office posing as an ordinary customer, checking that their staff were working to a level of compliance with the law and/or company policy. In such circumstances he/she could have lost their job, and therefore did the right thing by involving the manager. It's a bit of an overreaction on the part of this teacher to flounce out and say he's never going to shop there again!
as a teacher would you want him shaping children's minds ,no wonder schools are failing children ,the board of governors should be calling him in for a chat
[quote][p][bold]runnergirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fallen Angel7211[/bold] wrote: people who have never and will never work as a cashier will always back people like this bloke because they dont not understand what it is like for us cashier having to determine peoples ages, like 12 year olds that make them selfs look older. But then they also sit there and moan because there's so many people on job seekers. If the cashier had been caught selling the alcohol to the bloke after saying what he did joke or not by police or trading standards, not only would she have been pulled off the tills making longer waiting times to e served, sh would have also been given an £80 on the spot fine, possibility of a criminal record, up to a £5000 fine after it going to court or even a prison sentence. and she would have lost her job which would mean tax payers moaning that there paying for people like her not having a job. Also the store may have had the selling licence taken away so then the "I'm not going to said shop because i cant buy my tipple" moaning starts.[/p][/quote]Opinion seems to be fairly evenly divided on this page, but I'm inclined to come down on the side of Fallen Angel - apparently the only contributor here with direct experience of facing this kind of situation. Clearly the teacher was irresponsible not to consider that the cashier could have been talking to a 'mystery shopper' or someone from Head Office posing as an ordinary customer, checking that their staff were working to a level of compliance with the law and/or company policy. In such circumstances he/she could have lost their job, and therefore did the right thing by involving the manager. It's a bit of an overreaction on the part of this teacher to flounce out and say he's never going to shop there again![/p][/quote]as a teacher would you want him shaping children's minds ,no wonder schools are failing children ,the board of governors should be calling him in for a chat whatevernext2013
  • Score: -1

10:30am Wed 16 Apr 14

Camp Nigel says...

Detention and 100 lines please.

"I must not make ridiculous comments in shops about buying beer for my daughter. I must not have a hissy fit about being refused service. I must not flounce off, make a huge fuss and contact the local paper. I promise to wear a tie the next time"
Detention and 100 lines please. "I must not make ridiculous comments in shops about buying beer for my daughter. I must not have a hissy fit about being refused service. I must not flounce off, make a huge fuss and contact the local paper. I promise to wear a tie the next time" Camp Nigel
  • Score: -1

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