Parking restrictions in Lewes Road Triangle will 'damage trade'

Parking restrictions will 'damage trade'

Parking restrictions will 'damage trade'

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New parking restrictions planned for dozens of Brighton streets have already sparked disapproval from local business owners.

Brighton and Hove City Council is currently carrying out a consultation on plans, which could be brought in within months, to introduce the new scheme in the Lewes Road Triangle.

Among the restrictions in the proposals is the introduction of residents permit parking along Upper Lewes Road and nearby streets, bringing in new double yellow lines and possibly bringing in pay and display machines.

The council hopes plans could reduce congestion caused by double parking as well as stop drivers parking on pavements.


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But business owners have criticised the plans, claiming they will damage trade.

Cheryl Whiteman, who runs Rocket Sign and Designs on Lewes Road, said: “Our views are we want to live along the residents and they want a thriving road, not empty shops.

“This plan is quite disturbing to a lot of us businesses who need to park out there.

“If customers have to park further away and walk then they won't come here.

“We have customers who come in and stay with us for half an hour designing items.

“We're not a pick up and drop off business.”

Graeme Reece, who owns G Wizz Cleaning regularly works in the area and said new parking restrictions were the last thing the council should be looking at to improve the road.

He said: “I find it very difficult to operate in that area now. There are so many other things they can do to improve that road.

“The whole road layout is not set up for easy flow of traffic and it's making life hell for anyone who uses it.”

A six week consultation is currently underway and questionnaires have been sent out to homes in the area.

If the plans are brought in as proposed the scheme would operate between 9am and 8pm Monday to Sunday and provide bays for use by residents and their visitors, businesses and services.

The results of the consultation will be reported to the council's Environment, Transport and Sustainability Committee on July 1 but early signs are that businesses are very much against them.

Another trader labelled the plans as “ridiculous” while a spokesman for Deacon and Richardson architects previously told The Argus he had considered moving his business out of the area because of the yellow lines that were already in place on one side of Upper Lewes Road.

Councillor Pete West, chairman of the environment, transport and sustainability committee, said the consultation was an opportunity for residents and businesses to put their views across to allow the council to find the most practical way of solving the parking problems.

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7:20am Sun 20 Apr 14

rogerthefish says...

It will happen anyway this is not a democracy anymore, then the green headquarters Hanover next...time for the feckless to go!
It will happen anyway this is not a democracy anymore, then the green headquarters Hanover next...time for the feckless to go! rogerthefish
  • Score: 76

7:51am Sun 20 Apr 14

fred clause says...

Consultation my arse they are just going through the motion's as usual then whether people want it or not they will bring it in because as we all know that's How The Green's roll.
Consultation my arse they are just going through the motion's as usual then whether people want it or not they will bring it in because as we all know that's How The Green's roll. fred clause
  • Score: 82

8:12am Sun 20 Apr 14

Greyrun says...

Never understood why Hove has parking restrictions as far out as the lagoon
and yet Lewes Road and Hanover area has been exempt.This is the only central area which has free parking giving it an unfair advantage.
Never understood why Hove has parking restrictions as far out as the lagoon and yet Lewes Road and Hanover area has been exempt.This is the only central area which has free parking giving it an unfair advantage. Greyrun
  • Score: 16

8:35am Sun 20 Apr 14

Seagull John says...

Consultation, then implementation. That's how they work. Lewes Road is doomed. I work for a company that does the same. Pilot then implementation regardless of feedback.
Consultation, then implementation. That's how they work. Lewes Road is doomed. I work for a company that does the same. Pilot then implementation regardless of feedback. Seagull John
  • Score: 65

9:11am Sun 20 Apr 14

the red head says...

The greens don't care about business! This has been painfully obvious throughout their administration. Every implementation on the roads has damaged local businesses with restaurants now having to wait until after 8 for their patrons to arrive, Sunday traders seeing a massive drop in trade and all suffering from many residents choosing to go out of town or to the internet rather than pay the exorbitant bus or parking costs. We need them to go. Complacency is not an option.
The greens don't care about business! This has been painfully obvious throughout their administration. Every implementation on the roads has damaged local businesses with restaurants now having to wait until after 8 for their patrons to arrive, Sunday traders seeing a massive drop in trade and all suffering from many residents choosing to go out of town or to the internet rather than pay the exorbitant bus or parking costs. We need them to go. Complacency is not an option. the red head
  • Score: 62

9:27am Sun 20 Apr 14

sunshinebear says...

Can't see students paying for the use of residential parking and Yes i know a number of students who own cars and live off lewes road
Can't see students paying for the use of residential parking and Yes i know a number of students who own cars and live off lewes road sunshinebear
  • Score: 39

9:43am Sun 20 Apr 14

Ambo Guy says...

There is no point whatsoever in them holding a consultation as they have proved time and time again that they will just ignore the results if they show that the public are against a proposal they put forward.

It'll be just yet another shambolic and shamefull episode for our Green council.
There is no point whatsoever in them holding a consultation as they have proved time and time again that they will just ignore the results if they show that the public are against a proposal they put forward. It'll be just yet another shambolic and shamefull episode for our Green council. Ambo Guy
  • Score: 61

9:52am Sun 20 Apr 14

julesgemini says...

I used to run a computer repair shop on Lewes Road, without customers being able to pull up and drop off pc towers we would have gone out of business! Public transport is not always an option when you are buying large goods! None of my friends shop in Brighton anymore because parking is such a nightmare!
I used to run a computer repair shop on Lewes Road, without customers being able to pull up and drop off pc towers we would have gone out of business! Public transport is not always an option when you are buying large goods! None of my friends shop in Brighton anymore because parking is such a nightmare! julesgemini
  • Score: 58

9:56am Sun 20 Apr 14

BenUk says...

The only things they can think of and know how to annoy all people are parking permits, pay and display and double yellow lines, very small minded people the greens, that not improving the road that just bring in more money! why should residents have to pay even more money in that expensive county just to park there cars outside there own home!
The only things they can think of and know how to annoy all people are parking permits, pay and display and double yellow lines, very small minded people the greens, that not improving the road that just bring in more money! why should residents have to pay even more money in that expensive county just to park there cars outside there own home! BenUk
  • Score: 33

9:59am Sun 20 Apr 14

Fight_Back says...

Money, money, money !
Money, money, money ! Fight_Back
  • Score: 36

10:08am Sun 20 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

julesgemini wrote:
I used to run a computer repair shop on Lewes Road, without customers being able to pull up and drop off pc towers we would have gone out of business! Public transport is not always an option when you are buying large goods! None of my friends shop in Brighton anymore because parking is such a nightmare!
Its also hitting tourism brighton and hove is now known as a rip-off,the council knows this that's why they did not even bother opening several tourist attractions last year like the mini golf course on hove seafront,and destroyed several bowling greens and planted wild flowers on them simply underused as tourists and residents could not hire bowls.Paeking charges have killed the city off its only busy on fine and sunny days now.
[quote][p][bold]julesgemini[/bold] wrote: I used to run a computer repair shop on Lewes Road, without customers being able to pull up and drop off pc towers we would have gone out of business! Public transport is not always an option when you are buying large goods! None of my friends shop in Brighton anymore because parking is such a nightmare![/p][/quote]Its also hitting tourism brighton and hove is now known as a rip-off,the council knows this that's why they did not even bother opening several tourist attractions last year like the mini golf course on hove seafront,and destroyed several bowling greens and planted wild flowers on them simply underused as tourists and residents could not hire bowls.Paeking charges have killed the city off its only busy on fine and sunny days now. clubrob6
  • Score: 37

10:13am Sun 20 Apr 14

cookie_brighton says...

The Lewes road triangle need these restrictions as at the moment anybody and everybody can have free parking. Residents find it hard to park with construction workers around london road are parking there also local workers park there from 7 am until 5 pm.
The Lewes road triangle need these restrictions as at the moment anybody and everybody can have free parking. Residents find it hard to park with construction workers around london road are parking there also local workers park there from 7 am until 5 pm. cookie_brighton
  • Score: -13

10:23am Sun 20 Apr 14

NathanAdler says...

The Greens are a party full of hate. There is no progress whatsoever in their manifesto. They just want to see everybody forced in to vegetarianism whilst promoting terrorism, child abuse and drug taking as liberal rights.

I am afraid the small business man is scum as they are part of the wicked, wicked, wicked mainstream of the normal capitalist machine.

**** you for wanting to get on in life to provide for your family and contribute to a decent society whilst eating meat which is 100 percent evolutionary!
The Greens are a party full of hate. There is no progress whatsoever in their manifesto. They just want to see everybody forced in to vegetarianism whilst promoting terrorism, child abuse and drug taking as liberal rights. I am afraid the small business man is scum as they are part of the wicked, wicked, wicked mainstream of the normal capitalist machine. **** you for wanting to get on in life to provide for your family and contribute to a decent society whilst eating meat which is 100 percent evolutionary! NathanAdler
  • Score: 36

10:30am Sun 20 Apr 14

Monterey says...

Why on earth is there not a decent Park & Ride system for Brighton?
Why on earth is there not a decent Park & Ride system for Brighton? Monterey
  • Score: 40

10:34am Sun 20 Apr 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

The council has turned usually quiet roads into areas where residents from permitted areas now dump their vans and camper vans and second vehicles.
Our street was always an area where it was easy to park, now we have vehicles parked up for weeks on end, flat bed trucks, hippy vans and many untaxed vehicles the council refuse to move. You see the owners skulking back weeks later and disappearing before returning a few days later. We even have visitors to city centre hotels parking here and then getting cabs to collect them.
I have to say I was in town on Friday and yesterday and it was absolutely dead. At 3pm the wheel spun empty and the shops and restaurants were quiet too. I reckon news of the city being expensive for families to park is really spreading across the UK.
We desperately need to do something to save trade and re build our reputation. Many of the Green voting students have all returned home so they aren't spending either and the bike lane on the Lewes road has been empty for two weeks.
The council has turned usually quiet roads into areas where residents from permitted areas now dump their vans and camper vans and second vehicles. Our street was always an area where it was easy to park, now we have vehicles parked up for weeks on end, flat bed trucks, hippy vans and many untaxed vehicles the council refuse to move. You see the owners skulking back weeks later and disappearing before returning a few days later. We even have visitors to city centre hotels parking here and then getting cabs to collect them. I have to say I was in town on Friday and yesterday and it was absolutely dead. At 3pm the wheel spun empty and the shops and restaurants were quiet too. I reckon news of the city being expensive for families to park is really spreading across the UK. We desperately need to do something to save trade and re build our reputation. Many of the Green voting students have all returned home so they aren't spending either and the bike lane on the Lewes road has been empty for two weeks. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 46

10:38am Sun 20 Apr 14

Terry K says...

Why don't the Greens bring in fast, clean, cheap to use trams instead of polluting plodding, jerky buses, then parking is not an issue, works well in Croydon, trams are the way to go in my view.
Why don't the Greens bring in fast, clean, cheap to use trams instead of polluting plodding, jerky buses, then parking is not an issue, works well in Croydon, trams are the way to go in my view. Terry K
  • Score: 25

10:41am Sun 20 Apr 14

Golfer69 says...

A popular rd that's going to be run down again, a Tesco will hit this rd hard the council should be helping in dependant traders not helping to close them.
Go on Facebook join the unchainthebrightonmo
torist and ask if they can help they have elsewhere.
A popular rd that's going to be run down again, a Tesco will hit this rd hard the council should be helping in dependant traders not helping to close them. Go on Facebook join the unchainthebrightonmo torist and ask if they can help they have elsewhere. Golfer69
  • Score: 18

11:02am Sun 20 Apr 14

panniers says...

We all know what consultation means. One of our councillors has already stated privately that this is going to happen anyway. The last area to go residents parking was the Roundhill area and a friend of mine who lives in that area states that not one person he has spoken to voted for it.
We all know what consultation means. One of our councillors has already stated privately that this is going to happen anyway. The last area to go residents parking was the Roundhill area and a friend of mine who lives in that area states that not one person he has spoken to voted for it. panniers
  • Score: 33

11:07am Sun 20 Apr 14

cookie_brighton says...

BenUk wrote:
The only things they can think of and know how to annoy all people are parking permits, pay and display and double yellow lines, very small minded people the greens, that not improving the road that just bring in more money! why should residents have to pay even more money in that expensive county just to park there cars outside there own home!
if a resident buys a yearly permit...........thi
s does not mean that they will be able to park outside their own home, or even park in the area..........say for example there will be 500 parking spaces available, the council will sell around 650 parking permits..........it will be run on a first come first park system........most houses in the Lewes road triangle are H.M.O.s
[quote][p][bold]BenUk[/bold] wrote: The only things they can think of and know how to annoy all people are parking permits, pay and display and double yellow lines, very small minded people the greens, that not improving the road that just bring in more money! why should residents have to pay even more money in that expensive county just to park there cars outside there own home![/p][/quote]if a resident buys a yearly permit...........thi s does not mean that they will be able to park outside their own home, or even park in the area..........say for example there will be 500 parking spaces available, the council will sell around 650 parking permits..........it will be run on a first come first park system........most houses in the Lewes road triangle are H.M.O.s cookie_brighton
  • Score: 18

11:08am Sun 20 Apr 14

Brighton Living says...

I hope they put in parking restrictions in Hanover ......... I live in Ewart Street a so called ' residential area ' where double parking is on a daily basis the road is always at a stand still when bigger vehicles try and use the road. I once monitored the vehicles using this road and for a so called ' residential road ' there were 324 using the road and 123 of them use the road for parking between the hours of 7am - 7pm.

I think the council should take action as letting my children play outside is out of the question at the moment because the road is busy.
I hope they put in parking restrictions in Hanover ......... I live in Ewart Street a so called ' residential area ' where double parking is on a daily basis the road is always at a stand still when bigger vehicles try and use the road. I once monitored the vehicles using this road and for a so called ' residential road ' there were 324 using the road and 123 of them use the road for parking between the hours of 7am - 7pm. I think the council should take action as letting my children play outside is out of the question at the moment because the road is busy. Brighton Living
  • Score: -4

11:16am Sun 20 Apr 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Also remember the council is due to support a planning application for student homes on the Preston Barracks site with 500 free parking spaces for students.
Free parking for votes.
Also remember the council is due to support a planning application for student homes on the Preston Barracks site with 500 free parking spaces for students. Free parking for votes. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 24

11:31am Sun 20 Apr 14

moveoveru says...

Brighton Living wrote:
I hope they put in parking restrictions in Hanover ......... I live in Ewart Street a so called ' residential area ' where double parking is on a daily basis the road is always at a stand still when bigger vehicles try and use the road. I once monitored the vehicles using this road and for a so called ' residential road ' there were 324 using the road and 123 of them use the road for parking between the hours of 7am - 7pm.

I think the council should take action as letting my children play outside is out of the question at the moment because the road is busy.
Do you have any hobbies?
[quote][p][bold]Brighton Living[/bold] wrote: I hope they put in parking restrictions in Hanover ......... I live in Ewart Street a so called ' residential area ' where double parking is on a daily basis the road is always at a stand still when bigger vehicles try and use the road. I once monitored the vehicles using this road and for a so called ' residential road ' there were 324 using the road and 123 of them use the road for parking between the hours of 7am - 7pm. I think the council should take action as letting my children play outside is out of the question at the moment because the road is busy.[/p][/quote]Do you have any hobbies? moveoveru
  • Score: -6

11:40am Sun 20 Apr 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Why are the kids playing in the road?
Why are the kids playing in the road? Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 9

11:42am Sun 20 Apr 14

Just trying to earn a crust says...

Most people I know have stopped shopping in the city now, none of us go to the beach in Brighton either. Worthing and Crawley for shops, Worthing and Seaford for the beach. It's amazing how the green party have managed to kill Brighton in just 4 years. God knows what it will be like by the time they are kicked out
Most people I know have stopped shopping in the city now, none of us go to the beach in Brighton either. Worthing and Crawley for shops, Worthing and Seaford for the beach. It's amazing how the green party have managed to kill Brighton in just 4 years. God knows what it will be like by the time they are kicked out Just trying to earn a crust
  • Score: 44

11:59am Sun 20 Apr 14

brightonaire says...

I used to think that anti-car policies were wrong but now fully support them. I'd like to see all cars banned from central Brighton altogether including disabled access as many of these are flouting the law.
The problem is that alternatives are not being provided such as Park and Rides. Why don't they utilise the park and ride schemes used on BHa matchdays for a start?
If all cars were banned within a mile of Brighton Clock Tower it would make life better for everyone... and ban taxi's carrying single passengers as well... have you noticed how fat the English taxi drivers are (not the foreign ones)... make the English ones use cycle rickshaws for single passengers.... lazy prima donnas
I used to think that anti-car policies were wrong but now fully support them. I'd like to see all cars banned from central Brighton altogether including disabled access as many of these are flouting the law. The problem is that alternatives are not being provided such as Park and Rides. Why don't they utilise the park and ride schemes used on BHa matchdays for a start? If all cars were banned within a mile of Brighton Clock Tower it would make life better for everyone... and ban taxi's carrying single passengers as well... have you noticed how fat the English taxi drivers are (not the foreign ones)... make the English ones use cycle rickshaws for single passengers.... lazy prima donnas brightonaire
  • Score: -59

12:38pm Sun 20 Apr 14

ARMANA says...

Question, Have any Labour or Conservative councillors, gone on record, saying if elected, they will, put the roads in Brighton back to were they were, before the Green virus took over, I hav'nt heard anything from ANY of them,
Question, Have any Labour or Conservative councillors, gone on record, saying if elected, they will, put the roads in Brighton back to were they were, before the Green virus took over, I hav'nt heard anything from ANY of them, ARMANA
  • Score: 32

12:48pm Sun 20 Apr 14

brightonaire says...

ARMANA wrote:
Question, Have any Labour or Conservative councillors, gone on record, saying if elected, they will, put the roads in Brighton back to were they were, before the Green virus took over, I hav'nt heard anything from ANY of them,
Labour have voted through alongside the Greens. The Tories have been in agreement with some of the schemes and against others.
[quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: Question, Have any Labour or Conservative councillors, gone on record, saying if elected, they will, put the roads in Brighton back to were they were, before the Green virus took over, I hav'nt heard anything from ANY of them,[/p][/quote]Labour have voted through alongside the Greens. The Tories have been in agreement with some of the schemes and against others. brightonaire
  • Score: 11

2:18pm Sun 20 Apr 14

ARMANA says...

brightonaire wrote:
ARMANA wrote:
Question, Have any Labour or Conservative councillors, gone on record, saying if elected, they will, put the roads in Brighton back to were they were, before the Green virus took over, I hav'nt heard anything from ANY of them,
Labour have voted through alongside the Greens. The Tories have been in agreement with some of the schemes and against others.
So its Conservative, or U.KIP. then, O.K Thanks brightonare,
[quote][p][bold]brightonaire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ARMANA[/bold] wrote: Question, Have any Labour or Conservative councillors, gone on record, saying if elected, they will, put the roads in Brighton back to were they were, before the Green virus took over, I hav'nt heard anything from ANY of them,[/p][/quote]Labour have voted through alongside the Greens. The Tories have been in agreement with some of the schemes and against others.[/p][/quote]So its Conservative, or U.KIP. then, O.K Thanks brightonare, ARMANA
  • Score: 8

3:58pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Bill in Hanover says...

Greyrun wrote:
Never understood why Hove has parking restrictions as far out as the lagoon
and yet Lewes Road and Hanover area has been exempt.This is the only central area which has free parking giving it an unfair advantage.
Hanover and Elm Grove have no restrictions YET and the reason is that when we were consulted we made it very plain to the loony Greens that we didn't want them, we even had a protest march to the Council offices so any new area such as the triangle should make their feelings known. One of the reasons why there is such bad parking in the area is that there are no wardens patrolling, St. Martins school and Elm Grove school suffer from idiot women parking on zig zag lines EVERY day yet nothing is done about it, when the new flats were being built in Hollingdean Road the navvies all parked their cars on double yellow lines every weekday without getting a single ticket.
[quote][p][bold]Greyrun[/bold] wrote: Never understood why Hove has parking restrictions as far out as the lagoon and yet Lewes Road and Hanover area has been exempt.This is the only central area which has free parking giving it an unfair advantage.[/p][/quote]Hanover and Elm Grove have no restrictions YET and the reason is that when we were consulted we made it very plain to the loony Greens that we didn't want them, we even had a protest march to the Council offices so any new area such as the triangle should make their feelings known. One of the reasons why there is such bad parking in the area is that there are no wardens patrolling, St. Martins school and Elm Grove school suffer from idiot women parking on zig zag lines EVERY day yet nothing is done about it, when the new flats were being built in Hollingdean Road the navvies all parked their cars on double yellow lines every weekday without getting a single ticket. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 12

4:05pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

NathanAdler wrote:
The Greens are a party full of hate. There is no progress whatsoever in their manifesto. They just want to see everybody forced in to vegetarianism whilst promoting terrorism, child abuse and drug taking as liberal rights.

I am afraid the small business man is scum as they are part of the wicked, wicked, wicked mainstream of the normal capitalist machine.

**** you for wanting to get on in life to provide for your family and contribute to a decent society whilst eating meat which is 100 percent evolutionary!
While I'm not entirely sure about everything you say the Greens clearly are a retrogressive bunch of Luddites who would be only too happy to return us to the 17th century, having to walk everywhere and rarely straying beyond our local village.

There are exceptions of course and their chosen groups of travellers and students will no doubt benefit at the expense of the settled, law abiding population.

I will vote for anyone who clearly states an intention to undo the majority of the harm this bunch of idiots have managed to inflict on our city.

I am particularly interested in :-

1) Abolition of punitive parking schemes to encourage visitors and improve the lot of local traders.
2) Ceasing ridiculously expensive vanity projects, for example cycle lanes (what's wrong with paint )
3) Properly policing travellers and I will gladly pay an increase in council tax to ensure that travellers are evicted from public places as soon as humanly possible and then treated to the full force of the law.
4) Disallowing the renting of local properties to students, these should be used to alleviate the housing shortage in the city. If the universities want more students they should house them.
[quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: The Greens are a party full of hate. There is no progress whatsoever in their manifesto. They just want to see everybody forced in to vegetarianism whilst promoting terrorism, child abuse and drug taking as liberal rights. I am afraid the small business man is scum as they are part of the wicked, wicked, wicked mainstream of the normal capitalist machine. **** you for wanting to get on in life to provide for your family and contribute to a decent society whilst eating meat which is 100 percent evolutionary![/p][/quote]While I'm not entirely sure about everything you say the Greens clearly are a retrogressive bunch of Luddites who would be only too happy to return us to the 17th century, having to walk everywhere and rarely straying beyond our local village. There are exceptions of course and their chosen groups of travellers and students will no doubt benefit at the expense of the settled, law abiding population. I will vote for anyone who clearly states an intention to undo the majority of the harm this bunch of idiots have managed to inflict on our city. I am particularly interested in :- 1) Abolition of punitive parking schemes to encourage visitors and improve the lot of local traders. 2) Ceasing ridiculously expensive vanity projects, for example cycle lanes (what's wrong with paint ) 3) Properly policing travellers and I will gladly pay an increase in council tax to ensure that travellers are evicted from public places as soon as humanly possible and then treated to the full force of the law. 4) Disallowing the renting of local properties to students, these should be used to alleviate the housing shortage in the city. If the universities want more students they should house them. Idontbelieveit1948
  • Score: 23

5:43pm Sun 20 Apr 14

whatevernext2013 says...

Idontbelieveit1948 wrote:
NathanAdler wrote:
The Greens are a party full of hate. There is no progress whatsoever in their manifesto. They just want to see everybody forced in to vegetarianism whilst promoting terrorism, child abuse and drug taking as liberal rights.

I am afraid the small business man is scum as they are part of the wicked, wicked, wicked mainstream of the normal capitalist machine.

**** you for wanting to get on in life to provide for your family and contribute to a decent society whilst eating meat which is 100 percent evolutionary!
While I'm not entirely sure about everything you say the Greens clearly are a retrogressive bunch of Luddites who would be only too happy to return us to the 17th century, having to walk everywhere and rarely straying beyond our local village.

There are exceptions of course and their chosen groups of travellers and students will no doubt benefit at the expense of the settled, law abiding population.

I will vote for anyone who clearly states an intention to undo the majority of the harm this bunch of idiots have managed to inflict on our city.

I am particularly interested in :-

1) Abolition of punitive parking schemes to encourage visitors and improve the lot of local traders.
2) Ceasing ridiculously expensive vanity projects, for example cycle lanes (what's wrong with paint )
3) Properly policing travellers and I will gladly pay an increase in council tax to ensure that travellers are evicted from public places as soon as humanly possible and then treated to the full force of the law.
4) Disallowing the renting of local properties to students, these should be used to alleviate the housing shortage in the city. If the universities want more students they should house them.
the problem is both labour and the tories have just sat back and let them do this ,if both parties vote against all this ,the greens could do nothing
[quote][p][bold]Idontbelieveit1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: The Greens are a party full of hate. There is no progress whatsoever in their manifesto. They just want to see everybody forced in to vegetarianism whilst promoting terrorism, child abuse and drug taking as liberal rights. I am afraid the small business man is scum as they are part of the wicked, wicked, wicked mainstream of the normal capitalist machine. **** you for wanting to get on in life to provide for your family and contribute to a decent society whilst eating meat which is 100 percent evolutionary![/p][/quote]While I'm not entirely sure about everything you say the Greens clearly are a retrogressive bunch of Luddites who would be only too happy to return us to the 17th century, having to walk everywhere and rarely straying beyond our local village. There are exceptions of course and their chosen groups of travellers and students will no doubt benefit at the expense of the settled, law abiding population. I will vote for anyone who clearly states an intention to undo the majority of the harm this bunch of idiots have managed to inflict on our city. I am particularly interested in :- 1) Abolition of punitive parking schemes to encourage visitors and improve the lot of local traders. 2) Ceasing ridiculously expensive vanity projects, for example cycle lanes (what's wrong with paint ) 3) Properly policing travellers and I will gladly pay an increase in council tax to ensure that travellers are evicted from public places as soon as humanly possible and then treated to the full force of the law. 4) Disallowing the renting of local properties to students, these should be used to alleviate the housing shortage in the city. If the universities want more students they should house them.[/p][/quote]the problem is both labour and the tories have just sat back and let them do this ,if both parties vote against all this ,the greens could do nothing whatevernext2013
  • Score: 14

6:23pm Sun 20 Apr 14

djdavewow says...

I live in the area where they want to add the scheme and couldn't be happier for this!! The parking is not used by people shopping on lewes road it is just a dumping ground, for people who already live in the permit area and don't want to buy one and for weekend visitors to the area people using the shops park on lewes road already where there are double yellows, the wrong way up 1 way streets or on the pavement. Now if only there was some sort of punishment for people who have an inability to park without taking up 2 spaces the world would be a better place ...
I live in the area where they want to add the scheme and couldn't be happier for this!! The parking is not used by people shopping on lewes road it is just a dumping ground, for people who already live in the permit area and don't want to buy one and for weekend visitors to the area people using the shops park on lewes road already where there are double yellows, the wrong way up 1 way streets or on the pavement. Now if only there was some sort of punishment for people who have an inability to park without taking up 2 spaces the world would be a better place ... djdavewow
  • Score: 9

6:38pm Sun 20 Apr 14

ARMANA says...

djdavewow wrote:
I live in the area where they want to add the scheme and couldn't be happier for this!! The parking is not used by people shopping on lewes road it is just a dumping ground, for people who already live in the permit area and don't want to buy one and for weekend visitors to the area people using the shops park on lewes road already where there are double yellows, the wrong way up 1 way streets or on the pavement. Now if only there was some sort of punishment for people who have an inability to park without taking up 2 spaces the world would be a better place ...
Up were I live, 99% of bad parking, is done by young women drivers, Im amazed they passed there tests, !! I not a male chauvinist , it just a fair observation,
[quote][p][bold]djdavewow[/bold] wrote: I live in the area where they want to add the scheme and couldn't be happier for this!! The parking is not used by people shopping on lewes road it is just a dumping ground, for people who already live in the permit area and don't want to buy one and for weekend visitors to the area people using the shops park on lewes road already where there are double yellows, the wrong way up 1 way streets or on the pavement. Now if only there was some sort of punishment for people who have an inability to park without taking up 2 spaces the world would be a better place ...[/p][/quote]Up were I live, 99% of bad parking, is done by young women drivers, Im amazed they passed there tests, !! I not a male chauvinist , it just a fair observation, ARMANA
  • Score: 7

7:38pm Sun 20 Apr 14

DCCCCCC says...

the red head wrote:
The greens don't care about business! This has been painfully obvious throughout their administration. Every implementation on the roads has damaged local businesses with restaurants now having to wait until after 8 for their patrons to arrive, Sunday traders seeing a massive drop in trade and all suffering from many residents choosing to go out of town or to the internet rather than pay the exorbitant bus or parking costs. We need them to go. Complacency is not an option.
This is so true. I absolutely will not venture into Brighton now to shop or to eat. If I can't buy it on the internet, I go to Crawley or Eastbourne. I know many people are doing the same. Sorry traders but I refuse to pay the ridiculous parking costs or to sit for ages in traffic congestion.
[quote][p][bold]the red head[/bold] wrote: The greens don't care about business! This has been painfully obvious throughout their administration. Every implementation on the roads has damaged local businesses with restaurants now having to wait until after 8 for their patrons to arrive, Sunday traders seeing a massive drop in trade and all suffering from many residents choosing to go out of town or to the internet rather than pay the exorbitant bus or parking costs. We need them to go. Complacency is not an option.[/p][/quote]This is so true. I absolutely will not venture into Brighton now to shop or to eat. If I can't buy it on the internet, I go to Crawley or Eastbourne. I know many people are doing the same. Sorry traders but I refuse to pay the ridiculous parking costs or to sit for ages in traffic congestion. DCCCCCC
  • Score: 12

8:02pm Sun 20 Apr 14

brighton bluenose says...

the red head wrote:
The greens don't care about business! This has been painfully obvious throughout their administration. Every implementation on the roads has damaged local businesses with restaurants now having to wait until after 8 for their patrons to arrive, Sunday traders seeing a massive drop in trade and all suffering from many residents choosing to go out of town or to the internet rather than pay the exorbitant bus or parking costs. We need them to go. Complacency is not an option.
But you really have no idea about why trade has allegedly fallen off do you?! Whether we like it or not people are shopping more and more via the internet and out of town shopping centres have been around for years - these issues combined with the recession, the fact that the city has an average wage below the national average and that the residents of B&H spend a higher proportion of their income on housing probably has more to do with alleged reduced takings than increased parking zones and parking charges which are generally supported by all parties!
[quote][p][bold]the red head[/bold] wrote: The greens don't care about business! This has been painfully obvious throughout their administration. Every implementation on the roads has damaged local businesses with restaurants now having to wait until after 8 for their patrons to arrive, Sunday traders seeing a massive drop in trade and all suffering from many residents choosing to go out of town or to the internet rather than pay the exorbitant bus or parking costs. We need them to go. Complacency is not an option.[/p][/quote]But you really have no idea about why trade has allegedly fallen off do you?! Whether we like it or not people are shopping more and more via the internet and out of town shopping centres have been around for years - these issues combined with the recession, the fact that the city has an average wage below the national average and that the residents of B&H spend a higher proportion of their income on housing probably has more to do with alleged reduced takings than increased parking zones and parking charges which are generally supported by all parties! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -11

8:57pm Sun 20 Apr 14

kattypuss says...

The Greens are idiots. They just want to use B&H so-called green initiatives to put on their CVs for their future political careers. More parking restrictions is another money-earner. 20mph ridiculous. And cycle lanes have been built for a minority of B&H residents at huge cost to the majority. Please vote them out 2015.
The Greens are idiots. They just want to use B&H so-called green initiatives to put on their CVs for their future political careers. More parking restrictions is another money-earner. 20mph ridiculous. And cycle lanes have been built for a minority of B&H residents at huge cost to the majority. Please vote them out 2015. kattypuss
  • Score: 19

10:24pm Sun 20 Apr 14

brighton bluenose says...

kattypuss wrote:
The Greens are idiots. They just want to use B&H so-called green initiatives to put on their CVs for their future political careers. More parking restrictions is another money-earner. 20mph ridiculous. And cycle lanes have been built for a minority of B&H residents at huge cost to the majority. Please vote them out 2015.
When will people like yourself get it into your head that these issues will NOT be reversed by a Labour or Tory run council?!
The Greens are a minority administration for gods sake!!
[quote][p][bold]kattypuss[/bold] wrote: The Greens are idiots. They just want to use B&H so-called green initiatives to put on their CVs for their future political careers. More parking restrictions is another money-earner. 20mph ridiculous. And cycle lanes have been built for a minority of B&H residents at huge cost to the majority. Please vote them out 2015.[/p][/quote]When will people like yourself get it into your head that these issues will NOT be reversed by a Labour or Tory run council?! The Greens are a minority administration for gods sake!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -9

12:31am Mon 21 Apr 14

Camel54 says...

I like parking restrictions. The city is full of bloody idiot drivers who double park anywhere because they're too lazy to walk. Fat gits in enormous cars.
Lewes road is just full of nasty takeaways anyway, and they'll probably deliver, so you can get even less exercise and grow even fatter.If commerce is so dependent on the bone bloody idle then we'll be better off without. Buy a bike.
I like parking restrictions. The city is full of bloody idiot drivers who double park anywhere because they're too lazy to walk. Fat gits in enormous cars. Lewes road is just full of nasty takeaways anyway, and they'll probably deliver, so you can get even less exercise and grow even fatter.If commerce is so dependent on the bone bloody idle then we'll be better off without. Buy a bike. Camel54
  • Score: -9

7:11am Mon 21 Apr 14

sabbat36 says...

If you live in Lewes road and the surrounding area why shouldn't you be able to park your car?
If you are a business, you pay for a permit like everybody else does and had done for years.
Elm grove and Hanover are basically free car parks for visitors.
The people who live there are entitled to park before visitors and traders.
The locality use shops, not just people driving cars.

Some people are local to their shops and are still able to walk, for instance.

There is no evidence of population shift in Brighton, just the usual coiterie of ukip wannabes and their angry car worship.
If you live in Lewes road and the surrounding area why shouldn't you be able to park your car? If you are a business, you pay for a permit like everybody else does and had done for years. Elm grove and Hanover are basically free car parks for visitors. The people who live there are entitled to park before visitors and traders. The locality use shops, not just people driving cars. Some people are local to their shops and are still able to walk, for instance. There is no evidence of population shift in Brighton, just the usual coiterie of ukip wannabes and their angry car worship. sabbat36
  • Score: -5

8:10am Mon 21 Apr 14

Plantpot says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
kattypuss wrote:
The Greens are idiots. They just want to use B&H so-called green initiatives to put on their CVs for their future political careers. More parking restrictions is another money-earner. 20mph ridiculous. And cycle lanes have been built for a minority of B&H residents at huge cost to the majority. Please vote them out 2015.
When will people like yourself get it into your head that these issues will NOT be reversed by a Labour or Tory run council?!
The Greens are a minority administration for gods sake!!
Labour and Conservarives have done nothing to stop the Greens so that the electorate have a chance to see what they are really like. Rather like the monkey climbing the tree, the higher it gets, the less pleasant the view..
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kattypuss[/bold] wrote: The Greens are idiots. They just want to use B&H so-called green initiatives to put on their CVs for their future political careers. More parking restrictions is another money-earner. 20mph ridiculous. And cycle lanes have been built for a minority of B&H residents at huge cost to the majority. Please vote them out 2015.[/p][/quote]When will people like yourself get it into your head that these issues will NOT be reversed by a Labour or Tory run council?! The Greens are a minority administration for gods sake!![/p][/quote]Labour and Conservarives have done nothing to stop the Greens so that the electorate have a chance to see what they are really like. Rather like the monkey climbing the tree, the higher it gets, the less pleasant the view.. Plantpot
  • Score: 3

8:10am Mon 21 Apr 14

Plantpot says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
kattypuss wrote:
The Greens are idiots. They just want to use B&H so-called green initiatives to put on their CVs for their future political careers. More parking restrictions is another money-earner. 20mph ridiculous. And cycle lanes have been built for a minority of B&H residents at huge cost to the majority. Please vote them out 2015.
When will people like yourself get it into your head that these issues will NOT be reversed by a Labour or Tory run council?!
The Greens are a minority administration for gods sake!!
Labour and Conservarives have done nothing to stop the Greens so that the electorate have a chance to see what they are really like. Rather like the monkey climbing the tree, the higher it gets, the less pleasant the view..
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kattypuss[/bold] wrote: The Greens are idiots. They just want to use B&H so-called green initiatives to put on their CVs for their future political careers. More parking restrictions is another money-earner. 20mph ridiculous. And cycle lanes have been built for a minority of B&H residents at huge cost to the majority. Please vote them out 2015.[/p][/quote]When will people like yourself get it into your head that these issues will NOT be reversed by a Labour or Tory run council?! The Greens are a minority administration for gods sake!![/p][/quote]Labour and Conservarives have done nothing to stop the Greens so that the electorate have a chance to see what they are really like. Rather like the monkey climbing the tree, the higher it gets, the less pleasant the view.. Plantpot
  • Score: 2

8:27am Mon 21 Apr 14

the red head says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
the red head wrote:
The greens don't care about business! This has been painfully obvious throughout their administration. Every implementation on the roads has damaged local businesses with restaurants now having to wait until after 8 for their patrons to arrive, Sunday traders seeing a massive drop in trade and all suffering from many residents choosing to go out of town or to the internet rather than pay the exorbitant bus or parking costs. We need them to go. Complacency is not an option.
But you really have no idea about why trade has allegedly fallen off do you?! Whether we like it or not people are shopping more and more via the internet and out of town shopping centres have been around for years - these issues combined with the recession, the fact that the city has an average wage below the national average and that the residents of B&H spend a higher proportion of their income on housing probably has more to do with alleged reduced takings than increased parking zones and parking charges which are generally supported by all parties!
I hear what you're saying on a national basis but I know that the shopping habits of everyone in Brighton and hove has changed over the last few years. From a personal point of view, I used to go into Brighton once a week - I loved sitting in the pavilion gardens, browsing around the laines - but now it's unusual if I go even once every month. I think you could count in one hand my number of visits last year. It's the same with evening excursions. To have to commit to an extra fiver before you have dinner/go to a show or cinema... It changes availability of someone on a restricted income. As far as Sunday trading is concerned, getting rid of Sunday parking on church road has changed the customer base for businesses. But I do feel most sorry for the restaurants... Having to wait until 8pm for their tables to be filled has hit many hard. Why was it raised from 6pm to 8pm? I can't think of any other reason than monetary. Please don't tell me I don't know business; there is a massive difference in addressing local issues to national trends. Brighton was well placed to buck national trends with a massive variety of large and small traders covering the whole spectrum along with buoyant tourism, but these traffic regulations have hurt. There simply is no denying it.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the red head[/bold] wrote: The greens don't care about business! This has been painfully obvious throughout their administration. Every implementation on the roads has damaged local businesses with restaurants now having to wait until after 8 for their patrons to arrive, Sunday traders seeing a massive drop in trade and all suffering from many residents choosing to go out of town or to the internet rather than pay the exorbitant bus or parking costs. We need them to go. Complacency is not an option.[/p][/quote]But you really have no idea about why trade has allegedly fallen off do you?! Whether we like it or not people are shopping more and more via the internet and out of town shopping centres have been around for years - these issues combined with the recession, the fact that the city has an average wage below the national average and that the residents of B&H spend a higher proportion of their income on housing probably has more to do with alleged reduced takings than increased parking zones and parking charges which are generally supported by all parties![/p][/quote]I hear what you're saying on a national basis but I know that the shopping habits of everyone in Brighton and hove has changed over the last few years. From a personal point of view, I used to go into Brighton once a week - I loved sitting in the pavilion gardens, browsing around the laines - but now it's unusual if I go even once every month. I think you could count in one hand my number of visits last year. It's the same with evening excursions. To have to commit to an extra fiver before you have dinner/go to a show or cinema... It changes availability of someone on a restricted income. As far as Sunday trading is concerned, getting rid of Sunday parking on church road has changed the customer base for businesses. But I do feel most sorry for the restaurants... Having to wait until 8pm for their tables to be filled has hit many hard. Why was it raised from 6pm to 8pm? I can't think of any other reason than monetary. Please don't tell me I don't know business; there is a massive difference in addressing local issues to national trends. Brighton was well placed to buck national trends with a massive variety of large and small traders covering the whole spectrum along with buoyant tourism, but these traffic regulations have hurt. There simply is no denying it. the red head
  • Score: 8

9:06am Mon 21 Apr 14

Gaz the great says...

Good news all round in my view because hopefully the voting people of this city will remember this at both the local & general elections. The Greens have done almost irreparable damage to both the tourist & shopping industry & they haven't finished yet!
Good news all round in my view because hopefully the voting people of this city will remember this at both the local & general elections. The Greens have done almost irreparable damage to both the tourist & shopping industry & they haven't finished yet! Gaz the great
  • Score: 2

9:12am Mon 21 Apr 14

brighton bluenose says...

Plantpot wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
kattypuss wrote:
The Greens are idiots. They just want to use B&H so-called green initiatives to put on their CVs for their future political careers. More parking restrictions is another money-earner. 20mph ridiculous. And cycle lanes have been built for a minority of B&H residents at huge cost to the majority. Please vote them out 2015.
When will people like yourself get it into your head that these issues will NOT be reversed by a Labour or Tory run council?!
The Greens are a minority administration for gods sake!!
Labour and Conservarives have done nothing to stop the Greens so that the electorate have a chance to see what they are really like. Rather like the monkey climbing the tree, the higher it gets, the less pleasant the view..
You are an absolute clown - please provide the data to back up this rubbish!!
[quote][p][bold]Plantpot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kattypuss[/bold] wrote: The Greens are idiots. They just want to use B&H so-called green initiatives to put on their CVs for their future political careers. More parking restrictions is another money-earner. 20mph ridiculous. And cycle lanes have been built for a minority of B&H residents at huge cost to the majority. Please vote them out 2015.[/p][/quote]When will people like yourself get it into your head that these issues will NOT be reversed by a Labour or Tory run council?! The Greens are a minority administration for gods sake!![/p][/quote]Labour and Conservarives have done nothing to stop the Greens so that the electorate have a chance to see what they are really like. Rather like the monkey climbing the tree, the higher it gets, the less pleasant the view..[/p][/quote]You are an absolute clown - please provide the data to back up this rubbish!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -4

9:14am Mon 21 Apr 14

HJarrs says...

I love parking articles, a staple of the Argus. it always brings out the best in people.

The solution is soooo simple. If only these car hating Greens would invest in Tardis technology creating car parks vastly bigger on the inside than the outside. The cars parked in another dimension.

In the mean time, since the 1990s as residents have demanded parking restrictions and they have gradually been rolled out, the city has thrived. It is footfall, not the amount of metal boxes jamming the roads that counts.

The moanerati would roll back the bus and cycle lanes, give priority to the private car under all circumstances and have the city in perpetual grid lock and nothing is worse for business than that. The moaners haven't got a clue as usual.

Must be a cycle lane story soon (Vogue Gyratory scheme is due for approval, sharpen your virtual pencils moaners).
I love parking articles, a staple of the Argus. it always brings out the best in people. The solution is soooo simple. If only these car hating Greens would invest in Tardis technology creating car parks vastly bigger on the inside than the outside. The cars parked in another dimension. In the mean time, since the 1990s as residents have demanded parking restrictions and they have gradually been rolled out, the city has thrived. It is footfall, not the amount of metal boxes jamming the roads that counts. The moanerati would roll back the bus and cycle lanes, give priority to the private car under all circumstances and have the city in perpetual grid lock and nothing is worse for business than that. The moaners haven't got a clue as usual. Must be a cycle lane story soon (Vogue Gyratory scheme is due for approval, sharpen your virtual pencils moaners). HJarrs
  • Score: -9

9:21am Mon 21 Apr 14

brighton bluenose says...

Plantpot wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
kattypuss wrote:
The Greens are idiots. They just want to use B&H so-called green initiatives to put on their CVs for their future political careers. More parking restrictions is another money-earner. 20mph ridiculous. And cycle lanes have been built for a minority of B&H residents at huge cost to the majority. Please vote them out 2015.
When will people like yourself get it into your head that these issues will NOT be reversed by a Labour or Tory run council?!
The Greens are a minority administration for gods sake!!
Labour and Conservarives have done nothing to stop the Greens so that the electorate have a chance to see what they are really like. Rather like the monkey climbing the tree, the higher it gets, the less pleasant the view..
Politicians acting cynically?! Surely not!
However, in this instance I'm afraid you are wrong and there is VERY little that any incoming administration of whatever political hue will actually change! Councils across the country, again across all parties, are introducing 20mph limits, cycling lanes, bus lanes, parkingzones etc etc - and lets remember controlled parking was being inexorably introduced before the Greens came to power, they have just continued what Labour and Tories would have done anyway!!
[quote][p][bold]Plantpot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kattypuss[/bold] wrote: The Greens are idiots. They just want to use B&H so-called green initiatives to put on their CVs for their future political careers. More parking restrictions is another money-earner. 20mph ridiculous. And cycle lanes have been built for a minority of B&H residents at huge cost to the majority. Please vote them out 2015.[/p][/quote]When will people like yourself get it into your head that these issues will NOT be reversed by a Labour or Tory run council?! The Greens are a minority administration for gods sake!![/p][/quote]Labour and Conservarives have done nothing to stop the Greens so that the electorate have a chance to see what they are really like. Rather like the monkey climbing the tree, the higher it gets, the less pleasant the view..[/p][/quote]Politicians acting cynically?! Surely not! However, in this instance I'm afraid you are wrong and there is VERY little that any incoming administration of whatever political hue will actually change! Councils across the country, again across all parties, are introducing 20mph limits, cycling lanes, bus lanes, parkingzones etc etc - and lets remember controlled parking was being inexorably introduced before the Greens came to power, they have just continued what Labour and Tories would have done anyway!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 1

9:24am Mon 21 Apr 14

brighton bluenose says...

Plantpot wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
kattypuss wrote:
The Greens are idiots. They just want to use B&H so-called green initiatives to put on their CVs for their future political careers. More parking restrictions is another money-earner. 20mph ridiculous. And cycle lanes have been built for a minority of B&H residents at huge cost to the majority. Please vote them out 2015.
When will people like yourself get it into your head that these issues will NOT be reversed by a Labour or Tory run council?!
The Greens are a minority administration for gods sake!!
Labour and Conservarives have done nothing to stop the Greens so that the electorate have a chance to see what they are really like. Rather like the monkey climbing the tree, the higher it gets, the less pleasant the view..
My sincere apologies - the 'absolute clown' jibe was aimed at 'Gaz the "great" '!
[quote][p][bold]Plantpot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kattypuss[/bold] wrote: The Greens are idiots. They just want to use B&H so-called green initiatives to put on their CVs for their future political careers. More parking restrictions is another money-earner. 20mph ridiculous. And cycle lanes have been built for a minority of B&H residents at huge cost to the majority. Please vote them out 2015.[/p][/quote]When will people like yourself get it into your head that these issues will NOT be reversed by a Labour or Tory run council?! The Greens are a minority administration for gods sake!![/p][/quote]Labour and Conservarives have done nothing to stop the Greens so that the electorate have a chance to see what they are really like. Rather like the monkey climbing the tree, the higher it gets, the less pleasant the view..[/p][/quote]My sincere apologies - the 'absolute clown' jibe was aimed at 'Gaz the "great" '! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

11:04am Mon 21 Apr 14

cookie_brighton says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Also remember the council is due to support a planning application for student homes on the Preston Barracks site with 500 free parking spaces for students.
Free parking for votes.
TRUE............free parking for the NON paying council tax paying students.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Also remember the council is due to support a planning application for student homes on the Preston Barracks site with 500 free parking spaces for students. Free parking for votes.[/p][/quote]TRUE............free parking for the NON paying council tax paying students. cookie_brighton
  • Score: 6

11:15am Mon 21 Apr 14

cookie_brighton says...

sabbat36 wrote:
If you live in Lewes road and the surrounding area why shouldn't you be able to park your car?
If you are a business, you pay for a permit like everybody else does and had done for years.
Elm grove and Hanover are basically free car parks for visitors.
The people who live there are entitled to park before visitors and traders.
The locality use shops, not just people driving cars.

Some people are local to their shops and are still able to walk, for instance.

There is no evidence of population shift in Brighton, just the usual coiterie of ukip wannabes and their angry car worship.
no evidence of population shift in Brighton........are you blind.......just look around the new England area up to the railway station, they have / are building wooden looking flats for the past 8 years.
[quote][p][bold]sabbat36[/bold] wrote: If you live in Lewes road and the surrounding area why shouldn't you be able to park your car? If you are a business, you pay for a permit like everybody else does and had done for years. Elm grove and Hanover are basically free car parks for visitors. The people who live there are entitled to park before visitors and traders. The locality use shops, not just people driving cars. Some people are local to their shops and are still able to walk, for instance. There is no evidence of population shift in Brighton, just the usual coiterie of ukip wannabes and their angry car worship.[/p][/quote]no evidence of population shift in Brighton........are you blind.......just look around the new England area up to the railway station, they have / are building wooden looking flats for the past 8 years. cookie_brighton
  • Score: 0

11:18am Mon 21 Apr 14

the red head says...

HJarrs wrote:
I love parking articles, a staple of the Argus. it always brings out the best in people.

The solution is soooo simple. If only these car hating Greens would invest in Tardis technology creating car parks vastly bigger on the inside than the outside. The cars parked in another dimension.

In the mean time, since the 1990s as residents have demanded parking restrictions and they have gradually been rolled out, the city has thrived. It is footfall, not the amount of metal boxes jamming the roads that counts.

The moanerati would roll back the bus and cycle lanes, give priority to the private car under all circumstances and have the city in perpetual grid lock and nothing is worse for business than that. The moaners haven't got a clue as usual.

Must be a cycle lane story soon (Vogue Gyratory scheme is due for approval, sharpen your virtual pencils moaners).
I honestly don't see this as a simple matter of people loving cars. My sincerest wish is that bus fares would be reduced. I never used to take my car into Brighton. Unfortunately I am unable to cycle or walk into town and the bus fares have increased to the point where it is beyond me. I would be happy for more bus lanes... I'd welcome it... If I could afford to get on the bus once they're built. This should have been a priority for the greens; working in conjunction with the bus company to identify and promote use of the buses through residents permits as much as parking is. Instead we have allowed the bus company to flout its advantage in a virtual monopoly.
I know that your intentions are stoic and you've had a hard time on the comments board before but I honestly believe that decent debate can be had if all prejudices are put to one side. What I wish for more than anything is a solution and that's never going to happen while the two sides refuse to come together. Our city shouldn't be a fight or surrender scenario.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: I love parking articles, a staple of the Argus. it always brings out the best in people. The solution is soooo simple. If only these car hating Greens would invest in Tardis technology creating car parks vastly bigger on the inside than the outside. The cars parked in another dimension. In the mean time, since the 1990s as residents have demanded parking restrictions and they have gradually been rolled out, the city has thrived. It is footfall, not the amount of metal boxes jamming the roads that counts. The moanerati would roll back the bus and cycle lanes, give priority to the private car under all circumstances and have the city in perpetual grid lock and nothing is worse for business than that. The moaners haven't got a clue as usual. Must be a cycle lane story soon (Vogue Gyratory scheme is due for approval, sharpen your virtual pencils moaners).[/p][/quote]I honestly don't see this as a simple matter of people loving cars. My sincerest wish is that bus fares would be reduced. I never used to take my car into Brighton. Unfortunately I am unable to cycle or walk into town and the bus fares have increased to the point where it is beyond me. I would be happy for more bus lanes... I'd welcome it... If I could afford to get on the bus once they're built. This should have been a priority for the greens; working in conjunction with the bus company to identify and promote use of the buses through residents permits as much as parking is. Instead we have allowed the bus company to flout its advantage in a virtual monopoly. I know that your intentions are stoic and you've had a hard time on the comments board before but I honestly believe that decent debate can be had if all prejudices are put to one side. What I wish for more than anything is a solution and that's never going to happen while the two sides refuse to come together. Our city shouldn't be a fight or surrender scenario. the red head
  • Score: 6

1:13pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Gribbet says...

Might as well face it you're addicted to cars.
Might as well face it you're addicted to cars. Gribbet
  • Score: 0

4:37pm Mon 21 Apr 14

ARMANA says...

HJarrs wrote:
I love parking articles, a staple of the Argus. it always brings out the best in people.

The solution is soooo simple. If only these car hating Greens would invest in Tardis technology creating car parks vastly bigger on the inside than the outside. The cars parked in another dimension.

In the mean time, since the 1990s as residents have demanded parking restrictions and they have gradually been rolled out, the city has thrived. It is footfall, not the amount of metal boxes jamming the roads that counts.

The moanerati would roll back the bus and cycle lanes, give priority to the private car under all circumstances and have the city in perpetual grid lock and nothing is worse for business than that. The moaners haven't got a clue as usual.

Must be a cycle lane story soon (Vogue Gyratory scheme is due for approval, sharpen your virtual pencils moaners).
People will not leave there cars at home & jump on a bicycle, especially during the long winter days & nights, so any council, what ever it ideology, must try to sort out a method of inner city transport, that people will use, Todays world is the motor car, until that changes, cars should be priority in the towns, they should be able to get into town quickly & parked up, in car parks, not in all the side streets all over the place, which is encouraged, so the council can reap millions in parking fines, slowing the traffic down to a crawl is madness, & its worse for the environment , I drive to Lewes every day, Its cheaper to drive than to get a bus, which i would be happy to do, if the bus fairs were reasonable, But sadly the bus company' s have there noses in the trough also,
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: I love parking articles, a staple of the Argus. it always brings out the best in people. The solution is soooo simple. If only these car hating Greens would invest in Tardis technology creating car parks vastly bigger on the inside than the outside. The cars parked in another dimension. In the mean time, since the 1990s as residents have demanded parking restrictions and they have gradually been rolled out, the city has thrived. It is footfall, not the amount of metal boxes jamming the roads that counts. The moanerati would roll back the bus and cycle lanes, give priority to the private car under all circumstances and have the city in perpetual grid lock and nothing is worse for business than that. The moaners haven't got a clue as usual. Must be a cycle lane story soon (Vogue Gyratory scheme is due for approval, sharpen your virtual pencils moaners).[/p][/quote]People will not leave there cars at home & jump on a bicycle, especially during the long winter days & nights, so any council, what ever it ideology, must try to sort out a method of inner city transport, that people will use, Todays world is the motor car, until that changes, cars should be priority in the towns, they should be able to get into town quickly & parked up, in car parks, not in all the side streets all over the place, which is encouraged, so the council can reap millions in parking fines, slowing the traffic down to a crawl is madness, & its worse for the environment , I drive to Lewes every day, Its cheaper to drive than to get a bus, which i would be happy to do, if the bus fairs were reasonable, But sadly the bus company' s have there noses in the trough also, ARMANA
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8:02pm Mon 21 Apr 14

ARMANA says...

Gribbet wrote:
Might as well face it you're addicted to cars.
Usual verbal vomit, Gribbet Gribbet Gribbet,
[quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: Might as well face it you're addicted to cars.[/p][/quote]Usual verbal vomit, Gribbet Gribbet Gribbet, ARMANA
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4:06pm Tue 22 Apr 14

theargusissoinformative says...

NathanAdler wrote:
The Greens are a party full of hate. There is no progress whatsoever in their manifesto. They just want to see everybody forced in to vegetarianism whilst promoting terrorism, child abuse and drug taking as liberal rights. I am afraid the small business man is scum as they are part of the wicked, wicked, wicked mainstream of the normal capitalist machine. **** you for wanting to get on in life to provide for your family and contribute to a decent society whilst eating meat which is 100 percent evolutionary!
Where did you get 'promoting terrorism, child abuse and drug taking' from? If this is false, you seem to be an attention seeker waiting for a knock at the door. And who are all those twerps who seemed ready to give you the thumbs up?
[quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: The Greens are a party full of hate. There is no progress whatsoever in their manifesto. They just want to see everybody forced in to vegetarianism whilst promoting terrorism, child abuse and drug taking as liberal rights. I am afraid the small business man is scum as they are part of the wicked, wicked, wicked mainstream of the normal capitalist machine. **** you for wanting to get on in life to provide for your family and contribute to a decent society whilst eating meat which is 100 percent evolutionary![/p][/quote]Where did you get 'promoting terrorism, child abuse and drug taking' from? If this is false, you seem to be an attention seeker waiting for a knock at the door. And who are all those twerps who seemed ready to give you the thumbs up? theargusissoinformative
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8:45pm Fri 25 Apr 14

eddietheguru says...

I would like to inform you what happened in my town Walsall.
The council did the same thing here 6 Months ago and some people complained, myself included. They put Parking payment meters everywhere and double yellow lines everywhere else, for the same reasons.
Result…..many small businesses closed and some streets even now are completely void of shops!
Now they are saying they need to encourage shoppers back to the town, and many of the Parking payment machines have very quietly been removed.

Please take heed, the are only interested in increasing revenue in the short time……the people behind closed doors who make these decisions normally have never WORKED for a living!
I would like to inform you what happened in my town Walsall. The council did the same thing here 6 Months ago and some people complained, myself included. They put Parking payment meters everywhere and double yellow lines everywhere else, for the same reasons. Result…..many small businesses closed and some streets even now are completely void of shops! Now they are saying they need to encourage shoppers back to the town, and many of the Parking payment machines have very quietly been removed. Please take heed, the are only interested in increasing revenue in the short time……the people behind closed doors who make these decisions normally have never WORKED for a living! eddietheguru
  • Score: 1

6:46pm Thu 1 May 14

tillytilden says...

I am a resident living off Lewes Road within the proposed parking scheme. I am really hopeful that the scheme will be approved. The adjoining streets with controlled parking have plenty of places to park & I expect if we join a scheme we will too. Not only will this enable residents to park but it will also make the streets safer for residents and provide access for emergency services. God help us if there was a fire - how on earth could a fire engine get up the streets! Most cars parked near my street do not belong to residents. They are commuters or residents from other areas who do not wish to buy permits. I do think that Lewes Road businesses need some help. However only one side of the road will be affected. If they do not want to buy a permit they can use the "free" streets on the other side & customers can do the same or pay in a meter. Customers cant park now!!! Rather than be negative about the whole scheme why not see if there can be an accommodation. Perhaps some 20 minute free parking places could be considered - or 15 minute option (as we used to have in Brighton) on the meters. Nobody wants to pay to park outside their home. If the parking controls are not brought in the current parking nightmare will just get worse and worse.
I am a resident living off Lewes Road within the proposed parking scheme. I am really hopeful that the scheme will be approved. The adjoining streets with controlled parking have plenty of places to park & I expect if we join a scheme we will too. Not only will this enable residents to park but it will also make the streets safer for residents and provide access for emergency services. God help us if there was a fire - how on earth could a fire engine get up the streets! Most cars parked near my street do not belong to residents. They are commuters or residents from other areas who do not wish to buy permits. I do think that Lewes Road businesses need some help. However only one side of the road will be affected. If they do not want to buy a permit they can use the "free" streets on the other side & customers can do the same or pay in a meter. Customers cant park now!!! Rather than be negative about the whole scheme why not see if there can be an accommodation. Perhaps some 20 minute free parking places could be considered - or 15 minute option (as we used to have in Brighton) on the meters. Nobody wants to pay to park outside their home. If the parking controls are not brought in the current parking nightmare will just get worse and worse. tillytilden
  • Score: 0

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