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Most Brighton and Hove schools expected to shut again as NUT slam Michael Gove

The Argus: Teachers set to strike again Teachers set to strike again

Parents and students will have to prepare themselves for another day of disruption as teachers look set to strike for the third time in less than nine months.

The National Union of Teachers’ (NUT) conference held in Brighton over the bank holiday weekend resulted in the decision for action to be taken in the week beginning June 23.

The other biggest teachers’ union, the NASUWT, has also threatened to take industrial action in the run-up to next year’s general election.

More than 2,000 teachers in Brighton and Hove are affiliated with the NUT members with a further 6,000 across the county.

It is expected that a repeat of disruption caused by the previous two strikes in October last year and last month will take place if the strike goes ahead.

Phil Clarke, national executive member for Brighton and Hove and East Sussex NUT, said: “I’d anticipate that the same level of support as we’ve seen previously simply because the tact from the |Government still hasn’t changed.

“We would much rather have constructive talks than go on strike, but education secretary Michael Gove doesn’t even turn up to them.”

Mr Clarke also agreed that the majority of parents were on board with teachers, claiming there was far more support for them than the coalition’s policies for the education sector.

Paul Shellard, divisional secretary for Brighton and Hove NUT, added: “It’s about whether Gove is prepared to enter negotiations with us, and if he’s not, it will result in further strike action.

“We’ve organised a lobby on June 10, and if there’s still no response to that, then I think that strike action will be taken.

“Brighton and Hove has got the strongest support in terms of schools closing, so if there was a strike we’d be expecting an almost total school closure across the city.”

The strikes are part of a long-running campaign over teachers’ pay, pensions and working conditions.

Christine Blower, general secretary of the National Union of Teachers, said teachers’ moral is “dangerously low”.

Chris Keates, general secretary of the NASUWT, also slammed the coalition government, saying its strategies and policies have “betrayed a generation of young people”.

A Department for Education spokeswoman said strike action was “unnecessary”, would “disrupt parents’ lives, damage the reputation of the profession and hold back children’s education”.

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7:20am Tue 22 Apr 14

Chieftain11 says...

Yet again these selfish grabbers have no thought for those hard working parents who simply can't afford to take time off work to look after their children when this lot want to strike. Never thought I would say this but it's time all schools were privatised.

Supporters of these deadbeats should take a closer look at teachers terms of employment, cushy or what ? They have nothing to complain about when compared to private industry terms.
Yet again these selfish grabbers have no thought for those hard working parents who simply can't afford to take time off work to look after their children when this lot want to strike. Never thought I would say this but it's time all schools were privatised. Supporters of these deadbeats should take a closer look at teachers terms of employment, cushy or what ? They have nothing to complain about when compared to private industry terms. Chieftain11
  • Score: -5

9:21am Tue 22 Apr 14

Ambo Guy says...

Chieftain11 wrote:
Yet again these selfish grabbers have no thought for those hard working parents who simply can't afford to take time off work to look after their children when this lot want to strike. Never thought I would say this but it's time all schools were privatised.

Supporters of these deadbeats should take a closer look at teachers terms of employment, cushy or what ? They have nothing to complain about when compared to private industry terms.
Idiot.

Ok it's clear you're just a bored troll but you should think more carefully before you spout yiur rubbish on the forum.
[quote][p][bold]Chieftain11[/bold] wrote: Yet again these selfish grabbers have no thought for those hard working parents who simply can't afford to take time off work to look after their children when this lot want to strike. Never thought I would say this but it's time all schools were privatised. Supporters of these deadbeats should take a closer look at teachers terms of employment, cushy or what ? They have nothing to complain about when compared to private industry terms.[/p][/quote]Idiot. Ok it's clear you're just a bored troll but you should think more carefully before you spout yiur rubbish on the forum. Ambo Guy
  • Score: -4

9:37am Tue 22 Apr 14

JerryOnly says...

Yet again these selfish parents are blinkered and only paying attention to their own small gripes whilst ignoring the plight of over-worked and under-appreciated (as evidenced by you comment) teachers. If you baulk at the prospect of a day or two re-shuffling your precious offspring imagine the poor teaching staff who have to spend many more days with dozens of them!

If you're calling their work 'cushty' then you have NOT (that's NOT EVER) looked at their terms of employment yourself, have no idea at all of the workload, and have no idea what you're commenting on.
Yet again these selfish parents are blinkered and only paying attention to their own small gripes whilst ignoring the plight of over-worked and under-appreciated (as evidenced by you comment) teachers. If you baulk at the prospect of a day or two re-shuffling your precious offspring imagine the poor teaching staff who have to spend many more days with dozens of them! If you're calling their work 'cushty' then you have NOT (that's NOT EVER) looked at their terms of employment yourself, have no idea at all of the workload, and have no idea what you're commenting on. JerryOnly
  • Score: -1

10:15am Tue 22 Apr 14

Chieftain11 says...

Marxist doublespeak and very predictable. Schools are only legally required to be open 38 weeks per year. and a teachers 'contact time with a class is only 24 hours per week.

Take off lunch and tea breaks, it's the best paid part time job in Britain today. No wonder UK is now about 28th on the international educational standards table.

Privatisation for the whole useless gaggle of this profession.
Marxist doublespeak and very predictable. Schools are only legally required to be open 38 weeks per year. and a teachers 'contact time with a class is only 24 hours per week. Take off lunch and tea breaks, it's the best paid part time job in Britain today. No wonder UK is now about 28th on the international educational standards table. Privatisation for the whole useless gaggle of this profession. Chieftain11
  • Score: -1

11:31am Tue 22 Apr 14

JerryOnly says...

Baffling idiocy there, sadly the entirely predictable stance of the ignorant. 'Contact time' is not the job. Cut the red tape, the useless bureaucracy, the political interference, the admin and all the work of a teacher that is not centred around teaching and then standards will improve. Also effective discipline so the students can learn how to act and how not to act while they're at it.

Privatisation has already failed, or did that BSF initiative pass you by? Again, ignorance of the big picture really is telling.
Baffling idiocy there, sadly the entirely predictable stance of the ignorant. 'Contact time' is not the job. Cut the red tape, the useless bureaucracy, the political interference, the admin and all the work of a teacher that is not centred around teaching and then standards will improve. Also effective discipline so the students can learn how to act and how not to act while they're at it. Privatisation has already failed, or did that BSF initiative pass you by? Again, ignorance of the big picture really is telling. JerryOnly
  • Score: 2

12:15pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Russjackal says...

Chieftain11 wrote:
Marxist doublespeak and very predictable. Schools are only legally required to be open 38 weeks per year. and a teachers 'contact time with a class is only 24 hours per week.

Take off lunch and tea breaks, it's the best paid part time job in Britain today. No wonder UK is now about 28th on the international educational standards table.

Privatisation for the whole useless gaggle of this profession.
You clueless fool, my partner is a head teacher, she leaves the house at 7 every day and doesn't ever get home before 6, sometimes 9 when meeting with governors etc ( also clueless fools like yourself )
Add to that preparing for the next day, 10 pm at least working at home, at least 2 weeks of summer holiday is spent at school. Then to be told the pension which they have no option but to pay into isnt what it was promised, they have every right to strike, sometimes its the only way to get heard.Do your research **** before spouting your nonsense.
[quote][p][bold]Chieftain11[/bold] wrote: Marxist doublespeak and very predictable. Schools are only legally required to be open 38 weeks per year. and a teachers 'contact time with a class is only 24 hours per week. Take off lunch and tea breaks, it's the best paid part time job in Britain today. No wonder UK is now about 28th on the international educational standards table. Privatisation for the whole useless gaggle of this profession.[/p][/quote]You clueless fool, my partner is a head teacher, she leaves the house at 7 every day and doesn't ever get home before 6, sometimes 9 when meeting with governors etc ( also clueless fools like yourself ) Add to that preparing for the next day, 10 pm at least working at home, at least 2 weeks of summer holiday is spent at school. Then to be told the pension which they have no option but to pay into isnt what it was promised, they have every right to strike, sometimes its the only way to get heard.Do your research **** before spouting your nonsense. Russjackal
  • Score: 4

12:26pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Ratler says...

I notice those in and, or close to the teaching profession are somewhat adept at ignorant and rude name calling one particular individual they disagree with.

They are already defeated in the eyes of the reader but worse, what are they teaching in classrooms ? It should also be noted, only a poor workman blames his tools. This is not a profession. It's a job with career prospects.
I notice those in and, or close to the teaching profession are somewhat adept at ignorant and rude name calling one particular individual they disagree with. They are already defeated in the eyes of the reader but worse, what are they teaching in classrooms ? It should also be noted, only a poor workman blames his tools. This is not a profession. It's a job with career prospects. Ratler
  • Score: -4

1:00pm Tue 22 Apr 14

wippasnapper says...

A law needs to be past to prevent this sort of disruption to pupils and parents I mean lets be honest if you take your child out of school without a valid reason you pay dearly for it so should not the same be given to those that disrupt school terms i.e. Striking teachers!
A law needs to be past to prevent this sort of disruption to pupils and parents I mean lets be honest if you take your child out of school without a valid reason you pay dearly for it so should not the same be given to those that disrupt school terms i.e. Striking teachers! wippasnapper
  • Score: 0

1:54pm Tue 22 Apr 14

brightonaire says...

all those who strike should be the first to be made redundant.... greedy degenarates that want to feather their own nests while those of us who are self employed have had no wage rises for 13 years........ sickening... i hope they're proud of the example they're setting....... which incidentally they couldn't give an eff about
all those who strike should be the first to be made redundant.... greedy degenarates that want to feather their own nests while those of us who are self employed have had no wage rises for 13 years........ sickening... i hope they're proud of the example they're setting....... which incidentally they couldn't give an eff about brightonaire
  • Score: -2

4:14pm Tue 22 Apr 14

cookie_brighton says...

will these teachers who will take a day out of school be fined like parents are when they take their child out of school..............
......signs of discrimination here.
will these teachers who will take a day out of school be fined like parents are when they take their child out of school.............. ......signs of discrimination here. cookie_brighton
  • Score: 3

4:39pm Tue 22 Apr 14

michael505 says...

Great. Parents get fined for taking their kids out of school for holidays. Teachers can go on strike so what happens to the kids. The parents have to get child care or take the day off. hat they should do is claim the extra expense from the teachers. Only fair.
Great. Parents get fined for taking their kids out of school for holidays. Teachers can go on strike so what happens to the kids. The parents have to get child care or take the day off. hat they should do is claim the extra expense from the teachers. Only fair. michael505
  • Score: 0

7:55pm Tue 22 Apr 14

DCCCCCC says...

JerryOnly wrote:
Yet again these selfish parents are blinkered and only paying attention to their own small gripes whilst ignoring the plight of over-worked and under-appreciated (as evidenced by you comment) teachers. If you baulk at the prospect of a day or two re-shuffling your precious offspring imagine the poor teaching staff who have to spend many more days with dozens of them!

If you're calling their work 'cushty' then you have NOT (that's NOT EVER) looked at their terms of employment yourself, have no idea at all of the workload, and have no idea what you're commenting on.
I've given up arguing with the morons who all think that teachers have it easy. Not one of them, not one have a clue what it is like and the hours that are put in every night and all through the 'holidays'. The 'holidays' should be re termed working from home because that is actually what teachers do during the 'holidays' . But then the morons only see the school day, they don't have a clue what happens before or after. I am not saying at all that other professions have it easy but I am so sick and tired of the plebs who are always on their high horses that they have it so much harder.
[quote][p][bold]JerryOnly[/bold] wrote: Yet again these selfish parents are blinkered and only paying attention to their own small gripes whilst ignoring the plight of over-worked and under-appreciated (as evidenced by you comment) teachers. If you baulk at the prospect of a day or two re-shuffling your precious offspring imagine the poor teaching staff who have to spend many more days with dozens of them! If you're calling their work 'cushty' then you have NOT (that's NOT EVER) looked at their terms of employment yourself, have no idea at all of the workload, and have no idea what you're commenting on.[/p][/quote]I've given up arguing with the morons who all think that teachers have it easy. Not one of them, not one have a clue what it is like and the hours that are put in every night and all through the 'holidays'. The 'holidays' should be re termed working from home because that is actually what teachers do during the 'holidays' . But then the morons only see the school day, they don't have a clue what happens before or after. I am not saying at all that other professions have it easy but I am so sick and tired of the plebs who are always on their high horses that they have it so much harder. DCCCCCC
  • Score: 2

7:58pm Tue 22 Apr 14

DCCCCCC says...

michael505 wrote:
Great. Parents get fined for taking their kids out of school for holidays. Teachers can go on strike so what happens to the kids. The parents have to get child care or take the day off. hat they should do is claim the extra expense from the teachers. Only fair.
Same old, same old. It's not the teachers that made this rule but then people like you are too thick to realize this!
[quote][p][bold]michael505[/bold] wrote: Great. Parents get fined for taking their kids out of school for holidays. Teachers can go on strike so what happens to the kids. The parents have to get child care or take the day off. hat they should do is claim the extra expense from the teachers. Only fair.[/p][/quote]Same old, same old. It's not the teachers that made this rule but then people like you are too thick to realize this! DCCCCCC
  • Score: 2

8:00pm Tue 22 Apr 14

DCCCCCC says...

brightonaire wrote:
all those who strike should be the first to be made redundant.... greedy degenarates that want to feather their own nests while those of us who are self employed have had no wage rises for 13 years........ sickening... i hope they're proud of the example they're setting....... which incidentally they couldn't give an eff about
And so you know so many teachers do you? I know many that are not striking. I also know many self employed who have had decent pay rises over the past year. You must be in the wrong trade!
[quote][p][bold]brightonaire[/bold] wrote: all those who strike should be the first to be made redundant.... greedy degenarates that want to feather their own nests while those of us who are self employed have had no wage rises for 13 years........ sickening... i hope they're proud of the example they're setting....... which incidentally they couldn't give an eff about[/p][/quote]And so you know so many teachers do you? I know many that are not striking. I also know many self employed who have had decent pay rises over the past year. You must be in the wrong trade! DCCCCCC
  • Score: 1

8:04pm Tue 22 Apr 14

DCCCCCC says...

Ratler wrote:
I notice those in and, or close to the teaching profession are somewhat adept at ignorant and rude name calling one particular individual they disagree with.

They are already defeated in the eyes of the reader but worse, what are they teaching in classrooms ? It should also be noted, only a poor workman blames his tools. This is not a profession. It's a job with career prospects.
I think you will find that teachers are sick to the teeth of constantly being insulted by the likes of you and fed up with people thinking they know what a teachers job entails when actually they haven't got a clue.
[quote][p][bold]Ratler[/bold] wrote: I notice those in and, or close to the teaching profession are somewhat adept at ignorant and rude name calling one particular individual they disagree with. They are already defeated in the eyes of the reader but worse, what are they teaching in classrooms ? It should also be noted, only a poor workman blames his tools. This is not a profession. It's a job with career prospects.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that teachers are sick to the teeth of constantly being insulted by the likes of you and fed up with people thinking they know what a teachers job entails when actually they haven't got a clue. DCCCCCC
  • Score: 1

8:06pm Tue 22 Apr 14

DCCCCCC says...

Chieftain11 wrote:
Marxist doublespeak and very predictable. Schools are only legally required to be open 38 weeks per year. and a teachers 'contact time with a class is only 24 hours per week.

Take off lunch and tea breaks, it's the best paid part time job in Britain today. No wonder UK is now about 28th on the international educational standards table.

Privatisation for the whole useless gaggle of this profession.
Another one who hasn't got a clue!
[quote][p][bold]Chieftain11[/bold] wrote: Marxist doublespeak and very predictable. Schools are only legally required to be open 38 weeks per year. and a teachers 'contact time with a class is only 24 hours per week. Take off lunch and tea breaks, it's the best paid part time job in Britain today. No wonder UK is now about 28th on the international educational standards table. Privatisation for the whole useless gaggle of this profession.[/p][/quote]Another one who hasn't got a clue! DCCCCCC
  • Score: 2

8:35pm Tue 22 Apr 14

bluemonday says...

I know,the strike didn't work last time,so lets strike again.your not going to get your own way,the country is skint,why not just work to rule then we can see what real difference all this unpaid overtime actually makes.
I know,the strike didn't work last time,so lets strike again.your not going to get your own way,the country is skint,why not just work to rule then we can see what real difference all this unpaid overtime actually makes. bluemonday
  • Score: -3

10:00pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

Irrespective of the working hours issue, which seems to grab most attention here, the actual performance of teachers, as exhibited by our poor showing in international league tables doesn't appear to be very convincing so, quite frankly, they shouldn't be surprised to come under scrutiny.

The days when teachers were looked up to and respected are long gone and largely brought about by their own failure on several fronts, the most basic of which seems to be that they are incapable of even dressing suitably for work. Kids are generally required to wear a uniform these days but teachers can apparently roll up in jeans, t shirts and any other casual attire they like.

If the scenes at the union conference are anything to go by it is of little surprise that they have trouble controlling classes as they cannot even control themselves.

Time to grow up and do a proper job !
Irrespective of the working hours issue, which seems to grab most attention here, the actual performance of teachers, as exhibited by our poor showing in international league tables doesn't appear to be very convincing so, quite frankly, they shouldn't be surprised to come under scrutiny. The days when teachers were looked up to and respected are long gone and largely brought about by their own failure on several fronts, the most basic of which seems to be that they are incapable of even dressing suitably for work. Kids are generally required to wear a uniform these days but teachers can apparently roll up in jeans, t shirts and any other casual attire they like. If the scenes at the union conference are anything to go by it is of little surprise that they have trouble controlling classes as they cannot even control themselves. Time to grow up and do a proper job ! Idontbelieveit1948
  • Score: 0

4:20am Wed 23 Apr 14

Mr chock says...

i have not got a clue why the teachers complain about "working environment.." most ALMOST all the schools in brighton are old.. when was the last NEW school built ?? the lovely new buildings at Falmer for the teacher training seem to produce very very high quality people that dont have a hope of getting a full time teaching job ... i am going to go and have a word with my head master in the morning .. his just back of his holiday PAID holiday .. and if i dont get a good answer from him its DETENTION ..
i have not got a clue why the teachers complain about "working environment.." most ALMOST all the schools in brighton are old.. when was the last NEW school built ?? the lovely new buildings at Falmer for the teacher training seem to produce very very high quality people that dont have a hope of getting a full time teaching job ... i am going to go and have a word with my head master in the morning .. his just back of his holiday PAID holiday .. and if i dont get a good answer from him its DETENTION .. Mr chock
  • Score: -1

7:31am Wed 23 Apr 14

DCCCCCC says...

Idontbelieveit1948 wrote:
Irrespective of the working hours issue, which seems to grab most attention here, the actual performance of teachers, as exhibited by our poor showing in international league tables doesn't appear to be very convincing so, quite frankly, they shouldn't be surprised to come under scrutiny.

The days when teachers were looked up to and respected are long gone and largely brought about by their own failure on several fronts, the most basic of which seems to be that they are incapable of even dressing suitably for work. Kids are generally required to wear a uniform these days but teachers can apparently roll up in jeans, t shirts and any other casual attire they like.

If the scenes at the union conference are anything to go by it is of little surprise that they have trouble controlling classes as they cannot even control themselves.

Time to grow up and do a proper job !
Another clueless person.
[quote][p][bold]Idontbelieveit1948[/bold] wrote: Irrespective of the working hours issue, which seems to grab most attention here, the actual performance of teachers, as exhibited by our poor showing in international league tables doesn't appear to be very convincing so, quite frankly, they shouldn't be surprised to come under scrutiny. The days when teachers were looked up to and respected are long gone and largely brought about by their own failure on several fronts, the most basic of which seems to be that they are incapable of even dressing suitably for work. Kids are generally required to wear a uniform these days but teachers can apparently roll up in jeans, t shirts and any other casual attire they like. If the scenes at the union conference are anything to go by it is of little surprise that they have trouble controlling classes as they cannot even control themselves. Time to grow up and do a proper job ![/p][/quote]Another clueless person. DCCCCCC
  • Score: 1

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