Vicar refuses to toe the line in parking row

Vicar refuses to tow the line in parking row

Vicar refuses to tow the line in parking row

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A vicar was reported to police by council contractors while he was taking photos of them as part of a bitter dispute over parking.

The Reverend Edward Leir, a lay vicar, of Tivoli Road, Brighton, awoke on Thursday morning to find council workmen revising the double yellow lines and reducing the number of parking bays.

Mr Leir went outside to take photos of the work being done and the situation kicked off.

He said: “A workman who was stood around smoking rushed up to me and came right up in my face saying that I could not take photos and that he was going to call the police.”

Mr Leir said the situation was very “intimidating” and that the workman told him “he was going to be arrested”.

The police attended the scene and attempted to defuse the situation.

A spokesman for the Brighton and Hove City Council said: “The police were not called because of the resident taking photographs.

“The resident was felt by workers to be getting too near the work which involved burning off existing white lines with a burning lance.

“They were unable to persuade him to stand back. The police spoke to him and the problem stopped.”

Mr Leir has rebuked claims he was a health and safety risk, saying he was merely standing outside of his house.

A spokeswoman for Sussex Police said: “Police were called at around 10.35am on Thursday April 17 to Tivoli Road, Brighton, where some white lines were being painted.

“Contractors from the council had informed police about a member of the public getting too close to the work and refusing to move. The member of the public also phoned the police.

“A PCSO attended and spoke to everyone involved. It is understood the contractors were able to carry on with their work.”

Police were called to the road again on Saturday as Mr Leir confronted workmen again who were working over the bank holiday weekend.

Residents of the road have been left frustrated with the parking scheme saying they received no prior warning before work started and that the parking markers have been painted incorrectly – not matching surveyor marks.

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7:13am Wed 23 Apr 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

The council's contractors burnt off white lines on the Lewes Road for the changes to the layout. This has damaged the surface of the road and now vast holes are opening up. Dangerous.
The council's contractors burnt off white lines on the Lewes Road for the changes to the layout. This has damaged the surface of the road and now vast holes are opening up. Dangerous. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 53

7:15am Wed 23 Apr 14

rogerthefish says...

Good on you Vicar. National press beckons.
Good on you Vicar. National press beckons. rogerthefish
  • Score: 79

7:36am Wed 23 Apr 14

neilchi says...

This gentleman has every right to photograph the council workers from the pavement. If they are in a public place and he is in a public place then the law states that it is quiet acceptable for photography to take place.

I dare say the 'jobs worth' contractors had something to hide.

Good on the Rev for standing up to council bullies.
This gentleman has every right to photograph the council workers from the pavement. If they are in a public place and he is in a public place then the law states that it is quiet acceptable for photography to take place. I dare say the 'jobs worth' contractors had something to hide. Good on the Rev for standing up to council bullies. neilchi
  • Score: 84

7:37am Wed 23 Apr 14

gheese77 says...

I find clergy can be the greatest nuisance when trying to get on with your work
I find clergy can be the greatest nuisance when trying to get on with your work gheese77
  • Score: -55

8:14am Wed 23 Apr 14

NickBrt says...

The Good Lord will provide.
The Good Lord will provide. NickBrt
  • Score: 5

8:14am Wed 23 Apr 14

Martha Gunn says...

WHOOPS!

Elementary mistake again at the sub-editor's desk.

The expression is '...toe the line'.
WHOOPS! Elementary mistake again at the sub-editor's desk. The expression is '...toe the line'. Martha Gunn
  • Score: 18

8:44am Wed 23 Apr 14

allykatz says...

And now God joins the parking restriction argument, although I still don't think brimstone, fire and the chance of ever lasting happiness would sway these narrow minded fools and their oppressive parking policy.

Good job Vic fully support any action against this rabble.
And now God joins the parking restriction argument, although I still don't think brimstone, fire and the chance of ever lasting happiness would sway these narrow minded fools and their oppressive parking policy. Good job Vic fully support any action against this rabble. allykatz
  • Score: 33

8:59am Wed 23 Apr 14

cynic_the says...

gheese77 wrote:
I find clergy can be the greatest nuisance when trying to get on with your work
Ah, so you ARE just a troll!

For a while you had me thinking you actually believe the cr*p you write. Good effort!
[quote][p][bold]gheese77[/bold] wrote: I find clergy can be the greatest nuisance when trying to get on with your work[/p][/quote]Ah, so you ARE just a troll! For a while you had me thinking you actually believe the cr*p you write. Good effort! cynic_the
  • Score: 17

9:20am Wed 23 Apr 14

peterthomas says...

Top marks to the vicar - how refreshing to not see the usual middle England reaction of rolling over and putting up with the scandalous treatment and services we tolerate in this worn out joke of a country!!
Top marks to the vicar - how refreshing to not see the usual middle England reaction of rolling over and putting up with the scandalous treatment and services we tolerate in this worn out joke of a country!! peterthomas
  • Score: 30

9:25am Wed 23 Apr 14

Hove Actually says...

When the greens cannot restrict parking with the use of double yellow lines painted for no reason they resort to dumping black skips and re-cycling bins in the existing spaces whilst all the time selling more and more permits.

As a half hearted experiment this green council has been an utter disaster, all they have done is increase air pollution and lower re-cycling rates whilst ruining the infer-structure wasting the taxpayers money on grandiose schemes that will never pay back the investment
When the greens cannot restrict parking with the use of double yellow lines painted for no reason they resort to dumping black skips and re-cycling bins in the existing spaces whilst all the time selling more and more permits. As a half hearted experiment this green council has been an utter disaster, all they have done is increase air pollution and lower re-cycling rates whilst ruining the infer-structure wasting the taxpayers money on grandiose schemes that will never pay back the investment Hove Actually
  • Score: 38

9:28am Wed 23 Apr 14

fred clause says...

More tea Vicar
More tea Vicar fred clause
  • Score: 2

9:50am Wed 23 Apr 14

Sussex jim says...

Listening to the radio this St.George's day morning, they were asking us to call in to say what was good about being English.
I think that the freedom to use a camera in public places must be high on the list. Anyone who objects must have something to hide. Well done, public spirited vicar.
Listening to the radio this St.George's day morning, they were asking us to call in to say what was good about being English. I think that the freedom to use a camera in public places must be high on the list. Anyone who objects must have something to hide. Well done, public spirited vicar. Sussex jim
  • Score: 28

9:55am Wed 23 Apr 14

moveoveru says...

I am kind of with the contractors with this one. .

I would not like it if someone was photographing me whilst working. It would have been polite for this guy to ask if they minded first. He looks like a right little have a go! But at the first sign of a confrontation would not hesitate to call the police.
Some people really don't do themselves any favours!
I am kind of with the contractors with this one. . I would not like it if someone was photographing me whilst working. It would have been polite for this guy to ask if they minded first. He looks like a right little have a go! But at the first sign of a confrontation would not hesitate to call the police. Some people really don't do themselves any favours! moveoveru
  • Score: -45

10:07am Wed 23 Apr 14

Bluebeef says...

Martha Gunn wrote:
WHOOPS!

Elementary mistake again at the sub-editor's desk.

The expression is '...toe the line'.
In the same vein, I don't think Mr Leir ' "rebuked" claims that he was a health and safety risk.......' either.

You naughty little claim you....

I think he probably refuted them.
[quote][p][bold]Martha Gunn[/bold] wrote: WHOOPS! Elementary mistake again at the sub-editor's desk. The expression is '...toe the line'.[/p][/quote]In the same vein, I don't think Mr Leir ' "rebuked" claims that he was a health and safety risk.......' either. You naughty little claim you.... I think he probably refuted them. Bluebeef
  • Score: 8

10:18am Wed 23 Apr 14

cookie_brighton says...

neilchi wrote:
This gentleman has every right to photograph the council workers from the pavement. If they are in a public place and he is in a public place then the law states that it is quiet acceptable for photography to take place.

I dare say the 'jobs worth' contractors had something to hide.

Good on the Rev for standing up to council bullies.
Agree ......people can be photographed in public places...........the council idiot that approached the vicar shows the intelligence he holds, also If I was the vicar I would complain to the police about threatening behaviour.....well done vic...the lord works in mysterious ways.
I noticed in the post that the vicar approached the council workers again on........the Bank Holiday,...... no wonder our council tax is going up, I notice that council refuse workers / recycling workers were also working on the Bank holiday......paid double time for working this day.
[quote][p][bold]neilchi[/bold] wrote: This gentleman has every right to photograph the council workers from the pavement. If they are in a public place and he is in a public place then the law states that it is quiet acceptable for photography to take place. I dare say the 'jobs worth' contractors had something to hide. Good on the Rev for standing up to council bullies.[/p][/quote]Agree ......people can be photographed in public places...........the council idiot that approached the vicar shows the intelligence he holds, also If I was the vicar I would complain to the police about threatening behaviour.....well done vic...the lord works in mysterious ways. I noticed in the post that the vicar approached the council workers again on........the Bank Holiday,...... no wonder our council tax is going up, I notice that council refuse workers / recycling workers were also working on the Bank holiday......paid double time for working this day. cookie_brighton
  • Score: 21

10:22am Wed 23 Apr 14

Flydave123 says...

Yet another example of using parking to generate revenue with an illegal form of tax. Top marks to the vicar for standing up aginst this. The parking scheme was bulldozed through against the wishes of the majority of residents purely to expand their scheme of increasing council income.
Yet another example of using parking to generate revenue with an illegal form of tax. Top marks to the vicar for standing up aginst this. The parking scheme was bulldozed through against the wishes of the majority of residents purely to expand their scheme of increasing council income. Flydave123
  • Score: 23

10:23am Wed 23 Apr 14

Flydave123 says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
neilchi wrote:
This gentleman has every right to photograph the council workers from the pavement. If they are in a public place and he is in a public place then the law states that it is quiet acceptable for photography to take place.

I dare say the 'jobs worth' contractors had something to hide.

Good on the Rev for standing up to council bullies.
Agree ......people can be photographed in public places...........the council idiot that approached the vicar shows the intelligence he holds, also If I was the vicar I would complain to the police about threatening behaviour.....well done vic...the lord works in mysterious ways.
I noticed in the post that the vicar approached the council workers again on........the Bank Holiday,...... no wonder our council tax is going up, I notice that council refuse workers / recycling workers were also working on the Bank holiday......paid double time for working this day.
They were working the bank holiday to get the work completed quickly given the amount of local opposition to the sheme.
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neilchi[/bold] wrote: This gentleman has every right to photograph the council workers from the pavement. If they are in a public place and he is in a public place then the law states that it is quiet acceptable for photography to take place. I dare say the 'jobs worth' contractors had something to hide. Good on the Rev for standing up to council bullies.[/p][/quote]Agree ......people can be photographed in public places...........the council idiot that approached the vicar shows the intelligence he holds, also If I was the vicar I would complain to the police about threatening behaviour.....well done vic...the lord works in mysterious ways. I noticed in the post that the vicar approached the council workers again on........the Bank Holiday,...... no wonder our council tax is going up, I notice that council refuse workers / recycling workers were also working on the Bank holiday......paid double time for working this day.[/p][/quote]They were working the bank holiday to get the work completed quickly given the amount of local opposition to the sheme. Flydave123
  • Score: -13

10:24am Wed 23 Apr 14

Goldenwight says...

I note that Mr Leir ALSO called the Police, yet he appears not to have mentioned this to the 'Argus'- what did he say to them?

And since he is holding a smartphone with AUDIO and VIDEO recording facilities, why has he chosen not to share such recordings? Because from his determination to get his point across, I am certain that he would have made them.

And what happened on SATURDAY morning, when he again interfered with the workmen?

And as for no warning being given of alterations- how can you alter road markings when there is a car parked on top of them? You can't- so you make sure that everybody is well aware of your actions first, and that they do not park inappropriately. THAT is the time to take action, not in the middle of roadworks.

A petty little spat, blown up out of all proportion by this man and his determination to cause trouble.

(Incidentally, Mr Leir- if there WERE a God, do you seriously believe He would ever have allowed the Greens to run BHCC?)
I note that Mr Leir ALSO called the Police, yet he appears not to have mentioned this to the 'Argus'- what did he say to them? And since he is holding a smartphone with AUDIO and VIDEO recording facilities, why has he chosen not to share such recordings? Because from his determination to get his point across, I am certain that he would have made them. And what happened on SATURDAY morning, when he again interfered with the workmen? And as for no warning being given of alterations- how can you alter road markings when there is a car parked on top of them? You can't- so you make sure that everybody is well aware of your actions first, and that they do not park inappropriately. THAT is the time to take action, not in the middle of roadworks. A petty little spat, blown up out of all proportion by this man and his determination to cause trouble. (Incidentally, Mr Leir- if there WERE a God, do you seriously believe He would ever have allowed the Greens to run BHCC?) Goldenwight
  • Score: -22

10:33am Wed 23 Apr 14

flyingvicar says...

As the chap in question may I clarify a few points, often lost in the headlines:

1. There was no healthy and safety risk, there was no active work being done, I was 'rushed' at by an intimidating council worker saying I had no right to take photographs of the lines or what they were doing as it was "official". I was about 100ft away from where the council workers were sitting smoking cigarettes.

I was told 999 was called to have me arrested for taking photographs. This is quite wrong, regardless of the situation.

2. I made a peaceful, one-man protest on the Saturday. Again the council dialled 999 to report a breach of the peace. This for a single person standing on the pavement.

The whole thing is barmy. Not one councillor or council official has replied to five phone calls and two emails with my concerns.

The whole thing is barmy and on reflection quite intimidating. The aspect on Saturday particularly so as the police were insistent on arresting me, despite my perfectly legal rights. They only left after I passed on words of legal advice from a barrister friend who is an expert in civil rights.

The whole matter was peaceful, unobtrusive for the council workers involved and wholly disproportionate. It's all very sad realty that this has happened at all. I am not an agitator, simply making a very polite stand against a scheme no one wants, residents ignored by councillor and officials and what feels like abuse of power by getting the police involved.

It saddens my heart for all concerned and was completely unnecessary.
As the chap in question may I clarify a few points, often lost in the headlines: 1. There was no healthy and safety risk, there was no active work being done, I was 'rushed' at by an intimidating council worker saying I had no right to take photographs of the lines or what they were doing as it was "official". I was about 100ft away from where the council workers were sitting smoking cigarettes. I was told 999 was called to have me arrested for taking photographs. This is quite wrong, regardless of the situation. 2. I made a peaceful, one-man protest on the Saturday. Again the council dialled 999 to report a breach of the peace. This for a single person standing on the pavement. The whole thing is barmy. Not one councillor or council official has replied to five phone calls and two emails with my concerns. The whole thing is barmy and on reflection quite intimidating. The aspect on Saturday particularly so as the police were insistent on arresting me, despite my perfectly legal rights. They only left after I passed on words of legal advice from a barrister friend who is an expert in civil rights. The whole matter was peaceful, unobtrusive for the council workers involved and wholly disproportionate. It's all very sad realty that this has happened at all. I am not an agitator, simply making a very polite stand against a scheme no one wants, residents ignored by councillor and officials and what feels like abuse of power by getting the police involved. It saddens my heart for all concerned and was completely unnecessary. flyingvicar
  • Score: 59

10:39am Wed 23 Apr 14

tykemison says...

Argus job alert.Proof reader needed, must be willing to"toe the line".
Argus job alert.Proof reader needed, must be willing to"toe the line". tykemison
  • Score: 7

10:40am Wed 23 Apr 14

brightonaire says...

flyingvicar wrote:
As the chap in question may I clarify a few points, often lost in the headlines:

1. There was no healthy and safety risk, there was no active work being done, I was 'rushed' at by an intimidating council worker saying I had no right to take photographs of the lines or what they were doing as it was "official". I was about 100ft away from where the council workers were sitting smoking cigarettes.

I was told 999 was called to have me arrested for taking photographs. This is quite wrong, regardless of the situation.

2. I made a peaceful, one-man protest on the Saturday. Again the council dialled 999 to report a breach of the peace. This for a single person standing on the pavement.

The whole thing is barmy. Not one councillor or council official has replied to five phone calls and two emails with my concerns.

The whole thing is barmy and on reflection quite intimidating. The aspect on Saturday particularly so as the police were insistent on arresting me, despite my perfectly legal rights. They only left after I passed on words of legal advice from a barrister friend who is an expert in civil rights.

The whole matter was peaceful, unobtrusive for the council workers involved and wholly disproportionate. It's all very sad realty that this has happened at all. I am not an agitator, simply making a very polite stand against a scheme no one wants, residents ignored by councillor and officials and what feels like abuse of power by getting the police involved.

It saddens my heart for all concerned and was completely unnecessary.
All this at the holiest weekend of the year... you ought to be ashamed of yourself vicar.. if you were taking photos of me bending over while I was working I'd get irate as well
[quote][p][bold]flyingvicar[/bold] wrote: As the chap in question may I clarify a few points, often lost in the headlines: 1. There was no healthy and safety risk, there was no active work being done, I was 'rushed' at by an intimidating council worker saying I had no right to take photographs of the lines or what they were doing as it was "official". I was about 100ft away from where the council workers were sitting smoking cigarettes. I was told 999 was called to have me arrested for taking photographs. This is quite wrong, regardless of the situation. 2. I made a peaceful, one-man protest on the Saturday. Again the council dialled 999 to report a breach of the peace. This for a single person standing on the pavement. The whole thing is barmy. Not one councillor or council official has replied to five phone calls and two emails with my concerns. The whole thing is barmy and on reflection quite intimidating. The aspect on Saturday particularly so as the police were insistent on arresting me, despite my perfectly legal rights. They only left after I passed on words of legal advice from a barrister friend who is an expert in civil rights. The whole matter was peaceful, unobtrusive for the council workers involved and wholly disproportionate. It's all very sad realty that this has happened at all. I am not an agitator, simply making a very polite stand against a scheme no one wants, residents ignored by councillor and officials and what feels like abuse of power by getting the police involved. It saddens my heart for all concerned and was completely unnecessary.[/p][/quote]All this at the holiest weekend of the year... you ought to be ashamed of yourself vicar.. if you were taking photos of me bending over while I was working I'd get irate as well brightonaire
  • Score: -48

10:41am Wed 23 Apr 14

flyingvicar says...

In relation to the photographs taken, these were all forwarded to the Argus so show the work that ignores the plans and surveyor markings.

No video ya taken. I can only reiterate that it was the council who made a storm out of nothing by dialling for emergency police when no offence was being caused.

Each will have their own views and I respect each of them, whether you agree with what I did or not. The local residents here feel much the same as me and are saddened by the councils tactics on this. There were many out giving me support when the police where here on both occasions and can verify what I have said.

Hope that gives a better insight to the issues.

With thanks for all the words of support from so many.

Edward Leir.
In relation to the photographs taken, these were all forwarded to the Argus so show the work that ignores the plans and surveyor markings. No video ya taken. I can only reiterate that it was the council who made a storm out of nothing by dialling for emergency police when no offence was being caused. Each will have their own views and I respect each of them, whether you agree with what I did or not. The local residents here feel much the same as me and are saddened by the councils tactics on this. There were many out giving me support when the police where here on both occasions and can verify what I have said. Hope that gives a better insight to the issues. With thanks for all the words of support from so many. Edward Leir. flyingvicar
  • Score: 50

10:48am Wed 23 Apr 14

Flydave123 says...

brightonaire wrote:
flyingvicar wrote:
As the chap in question may I clarify a few points, often lost in the headlines:

1. There was no healthy and safety risk, there was no active work being done, I was 'rushed' at by an intimidating council worker saying I had no right to take photographs of the lines or what they were doing as it was "official". I was about 100ft away from where the council workers were sitting smoking cigarettes.

I was told 999 was called to have me arrested for taking photographs. This is quite wrong, regardless of the situation.

2. I made a peaceful, one-man protest on the Saturday. Again the council dialled 999 to report a breach of the peace. This for a single person standing on the pavement.

The whole thing is barmy. Not one councillor or council official has replied to five phone calls and two emails with my concerns.

The whole thing is barmy and on reflection quite intimidating. The aspect on Saturday particularly so as the police were insistent on arresting me, despite my perfectly legal rights. They only left after I passed on words of legal advice from a barrister friend who is an expert in civil rights.

The whole matter was peaceful, unobtrusive for the council workers involved and wholly disproportionate. It's all very sad realty that this has happened at all. I am not an agitator, simply making a very polite stand against a scheme no one wants, residents ignored by councillor and officials and what feels like abuse of power by getting the police involved.

It saddens my heart for all concerned and was completely unnecessary.
All this at the holiest weekend of the year... you ought to be ashamed of yourself vicar.. if you were taking photos of me bending over while I was working I'd get irate as well
To Brightonaire: to make a stand against wrong and injustice on one of the holiest weekends of the year seems perfectly appropriate to me.
[quote][p][bold]brightonaire[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flyingvicar[/bold] wrote: As the chap in question may I clarify a few points, often lost in the headlines: 1. There was no healthy and safety risk, there was no active work being done, I was 'rushed' at by an intimidating council worker saying I had no right to take photographs of the lines or what they were doing as it was "official". I was about 100ft away from where the council workers were sitting smoking cigarettes. I was told 999 was called to have me arrested for taking photographs. This is quite wrong, regardless of the situation. 2. I made a peaceful, one-man protest on the Saturday. Again the council dialled 999 to report a breach of the peace. This for a single person standing on the pavement. The whole thing is barmy. Not one councillor or council official has replied to five phone calls and two emails with my concerns. The whole thing is barmy and on reflection quite intimidating. The aspect on Saturday particularly so as the police were insistent on arresting me, despite my perfectly legal rights. They only left after I passed on words of legal advice from a barrister friend who is an expert in civil rights. The whole matter was peaceful, unobtrusive for the council workers involved and wholly disproportionate. It's all very sad realty that this has happened at all. I am not an agitator, simply making a very polite stand against a scheme no one wants, residents ignored by councillor and officials and what feels like abuse of power by getting the police involved. It saddens my heart for all concerned and was completely unnecessary.[/p][/quote]All this at the holiest weekend of the year... you ought to be ashamed of yourself vicar.. if you were taking photos of me bending over while I was working I'd get irate as well[/p][/quote]To Brightonaire: to make a stand against wrong and injustice on one of the holiest weekends of the year seems perfectly appropriate to me. Flydave123
  • Score: 31

11:17am Wed 23 Apr 14

s&k says...

Even God needs a permit in Brighton. We're a two chariot family.
Even God needs a permit in Brighton. We're a two chariot family. s&k
  • Score: 11

11:41am Wed 23 Apr 14

gheese77 says...

cynic_the wrote:
gheese77 wrote:
I find clergy can be the greatest nuisance when trying to get on with your work
Ah, so you ARE just a troll!

For a while you had me thinking you actually believe the cr*p you write. Good effort!
Takes one to know one !
[quote][p][bold]cynic_the[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gheese77[/bold] wrote: I find clergy can be the greatest nuisance when trying to get on with your work[/p][/quote]Ah, so you ARE just a troll! For a while you had me thinking you actually believe the cr*p you write. Good effort![/p][/quote]Takes one to know one ! gheese77
  • Score: -8

12:27pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Vaguely Interested says...

The Argus are missing a more interesting story here - do a little research into the 'Vicar' Edward (Mungo) Leir...
The Argus are missing a more interesting story here - do a little research into the 'Vicar' Edward (Mungo) Leir... Vaguely Interested
  • Score: -9

12:28pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Mark63 says...

The Greens seem to have a disorder that needs medical attention. Their obsession with cars is downright peculiar. Once they get kicked out next year, let's vote in some grown-ups with forward thinking attitudes...
The Greens seem to have a disorder that needs medical attention. Their obsession with cars is downright peculiar. Once they get kicked out next year, let's vote in some grown-ups with forward thinking attitudes... Mark63
  • Score: 15

1:28pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Bill in Hanover says...

moveoveru wrote:
I am kind of with the contractors with this one. .

I would not like it if someone was photographing me whilst working. It would have been polite for this guy to ask if they minded first. He looks like a right little have a go! But at the first sign of a confrontation would not hesitate to call the police.
Some people really don't do themselves any favours!
If you are in a public place you cannot stop someone from taking photographs, in fact with the ubiquitous CCTV you are 'snapped' about 470 times a year, it is not even an offence (yet) to take photographs of a PCSO. and it wasn't the vicar, who you call 'a right little have a go' who called the police but the contractor.
[quote][p][bold]moveoveru[/bold] wrote: I am kind of with the contractors with this one. . I would not like it if someone was photographing me whilst working. It would have been polite for this guy to ask if they minded first. He looks like a right little have a go! But at the first sign of a confrontation would not hesitate to call the police. Some people really don't do themselves any favours![/p][/quote]If you are in a public place you cannot stop someone from taking photographs, in fact with the ubiquitous CCTV you are 'snapped' about 470 times a year, it is not even an offence (yet) to take photographs of a PCSO. and it wasn't the vicar, who you call 'a right little have a go' who called the police but the contractor. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 15

1:47pm Wed 23 Apr 14

bug eye says...

Bluebeef wrote:
Martha Gunn wrote:
WHOOPS!

Elementary mistake again at the sub-editor's desk.

The expression is '...toe the line'.
In the same vein, I don't think Mr Leir ' "rebuked" claims that he was a health and safety risk.......' either.

You naughty little claim you....

I think he probably refuted them.
WHERE WAS THE BOMB. The police arrived and defused the situation.
[quote][p][bold]Bluebeef[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Martha Gunn[/bold] wrote: WHOOPS! Elementary mistake again at the sub-editor's desk. The expression is '...toe the line'.[/p][/quote]In the same vein, I don't think Mr Leir ' "rebuked" claims that he was a health and safety risk.......' either. You naughty little claim you.... I think he probably refuted them.[/p][/quote]WHERE WAS THE BOMB. The police arrived and defused the situation. bug eye
  • Score: -2

2:02pm Wed 23 Apr 14

cookie_brighton says...

It shows the observations that our police force do........it says in the story...... a spokeswoman for sussex police said " Police were called at around 10.30 am on thursday April 17 to Tivoli Road Brighton where some white lines were being painted "...........the colour of the lines in the picture are........Yellow, even the Vicar says in the story that the lines were Yellow.
I suggest this Police spokeswoman........r
uns along to specsavers.
It shows the observations that our police force do........it says in the story...... a spokeswoman for sussex police said " Police were called at around 10.30 am on thursday April 17 to Tivoli Road Brighton where some white lines were being painted "...........the colour of the lines in the picture are........Yellow, even the Vicar says in the story that the lines were Yellow. I suggest this Police spokeswoman........r uns along to specsavers. cookie_brighton
  • Score: 11

2:10pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Tivolian says...

Mark63 wrote:
The Greens seem to have a disorder that needs medical attention. Their obsession with cars is downright peculiar. Once they get kicked out next year, let's vote in some grown-ups with forward thinking attitudes...
I'm afraid it's not just the Greens who go along with this parking scam, the local Tory councillors seem to have sat on their hands as well whilst the residents were "fleeced" by the council. It's not just the parking "permit" con that people are angry about, they have painted double yellows all over the place for no good reason other then to teach those pesky residents a lesson.
We've even had threatening notices put on our cars even though the "scheme" doesn't start until the beginning of May!
[quote][p][bold]Mark63[/bold] wrote: The Greens seem to have a disorder that needs medical attention. Their obsession with cars is downright peculiar. Once they get kicked out next year, let's vote in some grown-ups with forward thinking attitudes...[/p][/quote]I'm afraid it's not just the Greens who go along with this parking scam, the local Tory councillors seem to have sat on their hands as well whilst the residents were "fleeced" by the council. It's not just the parking "permit" con that people are angry about, they have painted double yellows all over the place for no good reason other then to teach those pesky residents a lesson. We've even had threatening notices put on our cars even though the "scheme" doesn't start until the beginning of May! Tivolian
  • Score: 11

2:33pm Wed 23 Apr 14

magic_chimp says...

Tivolian wrote:
Mark63 wrote:
The Greens seem to have a disorder that needs medical attention. Their obsession with cars is downright peculiar. Once they get kicked out next year, let's vote in some grown-ups with forward thinking attitudes...
I'm afraid it's not just the Greens who go along with this parking scam, the local Tory councillors seem to have sat on their hands as well whilst the residents were "fleeced" by the council. It's not just the parking "permit" con that people are angry about, they have painted double yellows all over the place for no good reason other then to teach those pesky residents a lesson.
We've even had threatening notices put on our cars even though the "scheme" doesn't start until the beginning of May!
I had one of the threatening notes left on my legally parked car intimating that I was parked in contravention of parking regulations that haven't yet come into force!
Rather than a friendly pre-emptive note advising that new regulations are coming into force this note is a nastily worded and threatening piece of prose in bold lettering advising that it was a warning 'on this occasion but from 01.05.14 a PCN may be issued'.
I was so incensed that I have emailed a complaint to parking@brighton-hov
e.gov.uk and would urge anyone else who finds these notes rather heavy handed to do so too, not that I expect to get any sort of response from them.
[quote][p][bold]Tivolian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark63[/bold] wrote: The Greens seem to have a disorder that needs medical attention. Their obsession with cars is downright peculiar. Once they get kicked out next year, let's vote in some grown-ups with forward thinking attitudes...[/p][/quote]I'm afraid it's not just the Greens who go along with this parking scam, the local Tory councillors seem to have sat on their hands as well whilst the residents were "fleeced" by the council. It's not just the parking "permit" con that people are angry about, they have painted double yellows all over the place for no good reason other then to teach those pesky residents a lesson. We've even had threatening notices put on our cars even though the "scheme" doesn't start until the beginning of May![/p][/quote]I had one of the threatening notes left on my legally parked car intimating that I was parked in contravention of parking regulations that haven't yet come into force! Rather than a friendly pre-emptive note advising that new regulations are coming into force this note is a nastily worded and threatening piece of prose in bold lettering advising that it was a warning 'on this occasion but from 01.05.14 a PCN may be issued'. I was so incensed that I have emailed a complaint to parking@brighton-hov e.gov.uk and would urge anyone else who finds these notes rather heavy handed to do so too, not that I expect to get any sort of response from them. magic_chimp
  • Score: 17

2:43pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Tivolian says...

magic_chimp wrote:
Tivolian wrote:
Mark63 wrote:
The Greens seem to have a disorder that needs medical attention. Their obsession with cars is downright peculiar. Once they get kicked out next year, let's vote in some grown-ups with forward thinking attitudes...
I'm afraid it's not just the Greens who go along with this parking scam, the local Tory councillors seem to have sat on their hands as well whilst the residents were "fleeced" by the council. It's not just the parking "permit" con that people are angry about, they have painted double yellows all over the place for no good reason other then to teach those pesky residents a lesson.
We've even had threatening notices put on our cars even though the "scheme" doesn't start until the beginning of May!
I had one of the threatening notes left on my legally parked car intimating that I was parked in contravention of parking regulations that haven't yet come into force!
Rather than a friendly pre-emptive note advising that new regulations are coming into force this note is a nastily worded and threatening piece of prose in bold lettering advising that it was a warning 'on this occasion but from 01.05.14 a PCN may be issued'.
I was so incensed that I have emailed a complaint to parking@brighton-hov

e.gov.uk and would urge anyone else who finds these notes rather heavy handed to do so too, not that I expect to get any sort of response from them.
Interestingly, we rang and e-mailed the council and a rather contrite "minion" apologised about the note and seemed to think that they had been distributed by an outside agency who do some of the council's dirty work for them. We then had a slightly milder threat put on the car a few hours later which this time gave the date by which the council would start to burn our homes and crush our cars. I do wonder who pays for all these threats to be distributed,
and worry that it may mean that our local representatives don't receive the full allowances due to them...
[quote][p][bold]magic_chimp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tivolian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark63[/bold] wrote: The Greens seem to have a disorder that needs medical attention. Their obsession with cars is downright peculiar. Once they get kicked out next year, let's vote in some grown-ups with forward thinking attitudes...[/p][/quote]I'm afraid it's not just the Greens who go along with this parking scam, the local Tory councillors seem to have sat on their hands as well whilst the residents were "fleeced" by the council. It's not just the parking "permit" con that people are angry about, they have painted double yellows all over the place for no good reason other then to teach those pesky residents a lesson. We've even had threatening notices put on our cars even though the "scheme" doesn't start until the beginning of May![/p][/quote]I had one of the threatening notes left on my legally parked car intimating that I was parked in contravention of parking regulations that haven't yet come into force! Rather than a friendly pre-emptive note advising that new regulations are coming into force this note is a nastily worded and threatening piece of prose in bold lettering advising that it was a warning 'on this occasion but from 01.05.14 a PCN may be issued'. I was so incensed that I have emailed a complaint to parking@brighton-hov e.gov.uk and would urge anyone else who finds these notes rather heavy handed to do so too, not that I expect to get any sort of response from them.[/p][/quote]Interestingly, we rang and e-mailed the council and a rather contrite "minion" apologised about the note and seemed to think that they had been distributed by an outside agency who do some of the council's dirty work for them. We then had a slightly milder threat put on the car a few hours later which this time gave the date by which the council would start to burn our homes and crush our cars. I do wonder who pays for all these threats to be distributed, and worry that it may mean that our local representatives don't receive the full allowances due to them... Tivolian
  • Score: 12

4:08pm Wed 23 Apr 14

mruno says...

No wonder the police were called, “The resident was felt by workers ....................


Vicar as well, lol.
No wonder the police were called, “The resident was felt by workers .................... Vicar as well, lol. mruno
  • Score: 2

4:13pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Vaguely Interested says...

Yep, this is definitely the same guy... https://twitter.com/
brightonflyer
Not quite your typical 'Reverend' - Mr Leir has manyand varied interests, not just parking disputes.
Yep, this is definitely the same guy... https://twitter.com/ brightonflyer Not quite your typical 'Reverend' - Mr Leir has manyand varied interests, not just parking disputes. Vaguely Interested
  • Score: -2

4:31pm Wed 23 Apr 14

theargusissoinformative says...

Vaguely Interested wrote:
Yep, this is definitely the same guy... https://twitter.com/ brightonflyer Not quite your typical 'Reverend' - Mr Leir has manyand varied interests, not just parking disputes.
Is this really definitely the same guy? Do I believe you? If true, he's just some posh Brighton weirdo masquerading as a vicar. It is as if Adam Campbell has undergone a face transplant and swapped his lime green mankini for a cassock. Odder and odder. Obviously I didn't witness his altercation with the workmen, but I am left wondering, IS THIS REALLY A VICAR?
[quote][p][bold]Vaguely Interested[/bold] wrote: Yep, this is definitely the same guy... https://twitter.com/ brightonflyer Not quite your typical 'Reverend' - Mr Leir has manyand varied interests, not just parking disputes.[/p][/quote]Is this really definitely the same guy? Do I believe you? If true, he's just some posh Brighton weirdo masquerading as a vicar. It is as if Adam Campbell has undergone a face transplant and swapped his lime green mankini for a cassock. Odder and odder. Obviously I didn't witness his altercation with the workmen, but I am left wondering, IS THIS REALLY A VICAR? theargusissoinformative
  • Score: -6

4:39pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Vaguely Interested says...

theargusissoinformat
ive
wrote:
Vaguely Interested wrote:
Yep, this is definitely the same guy... https://twitter.com/ brightonflyer Not quite your typical 'Reverend' - Mr Leir has manyand varied interests, not just parking disputes.
Is this really definitely the same guy? Do I believe you? If true, he's just some posh Brighton weirdo masquerading as a vicar. It is as if Adam Campbell has undergone a face transplant and swapped his lime green mankini for a cassock. Odder and odder. Obviously I didn't witness his altercation with the workmen, but I am left wondering, IS THIS REALLY A VICAR?
Well, it's the same name and the twitter account talks about the parking altercations, so draw your own conclusions! Just had a look at some of the photos he's retweeted - caning anyone? Not quite the innocent man of the cloth.
[quote][p][bold]theargusissoinformat ive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vaguely Interested[/bold] wrote: Yep, this is definitely the same guy... https://twitter.com/ brightonflyer Not quite your typical 'Reverend' - Mr Leir has manyand varied interests, not just parking disputes.[/p][/quote]Is this really definitely the same guy? Do I believe you? If true, he's just some posh Brighton weirdo masquerading as a vicar. It is as if Adam Campbell has undergone a face transplant and swapped his lime green mankini for a cassock. Odder and odder. Obviously I didn't witness his altercation with the workmen, but I am left wondering, IS THIS REALLY A VICAR?[/p][/quote]Well, it's the same name and the twitter account talks about the parking altercations, so draw your own conclusions! Just had a look at some of the photos he's retweeted - caning anyone? Not quite the innocent man of the cloth. Vaguely Interested
  • Score: -4

4:39pm Wed 23 Apr 14

cookie_brighton says...

magic_chimp wrote:
Tivolian wrote:
Mark63 wrote:
The Greens seem to have a disorder that needs medical attention. Their obsession with cars is downright peculiar. Once they get kicked out next year, let's vote in some grown-ups with forward thinking attitudes...
I'm afraid it's not just the Greens who go along with this parking scam, the local Tory councillors seem to have sat on their hands as well whilst the residents were "fleeced" by the council. It's not just the parking "permit" con that people are angry about, they have painted double yellows all over the place for no good reason other then to teach those pesky residents a lesson.
We've even had threatening notices put on our cars even though the "scheme" doesn't start until the beginning of May!
I had one of the threatening notes left on my legally parked car intimating that I was parked in contravention of parking regulations that haven't yet come into force!
Rather than a friendly pre-emptive note advising that new regulations are coming into force this note is a nastily worded and threatening piece of prose in bold lettering advising that it was a warning 'on this occasion but from 01.05.14 a PCN may be issued'.
I was so incensed that I have emailed a complaint to parking@brighton-hov

e.gov.uk and would urge anyone else who finds these notes rather heavy handed to do so too, not that I expect to get any sort of response from them.
you emailed a complaint..........I would have turned up at their offices and let them know how i felt by receiving this unlawful ticket...
[quote][p][bold]magic_chimp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tivolian[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark63[/bold] wrote: The Greens seem to have a disorder that needs medical attention. Their obsession with cars is downright peculiar. Once they get kicked out next year, let's vote in some grown-ups with forward thinking attitudes...[/p][/quote]I'm afraid it's not just the Greens who go along with this parking scam, the local Tory councillors seem to have sat on their hands as well whilst the residents were "fleeced" by the council. It's not just the parking "permit" con that people are angry about, they have painted double yellows all over the place for no good reason other then to teach those pesky residents a lesson. We've even had threatening notices put on our cars even though the "scheme" doesn't start until the beginning of May![/p][/quote]I had one of the threatening notes left on my legally parked car intimating that I was parked in contravention of parking regulations that haven't yet come into force! Rather than a friendly pre-emptive note advising that new regulations are coming into force this note is a nastily worded and threatening piece of prose in bold lettering advising that it was a warning 'on this occasion but from 01.05.14 a PCN may be issued'. I was so incensed that I have emailed a complaint to parking@brighton-hov e.gov.uk and would urge anyone else who finds these notes rather heavy handed to do so too, not that I expect to get any sort of response from them.[/p][/quote]you emailed a complaint..........I would have turned up at their offices and let them know how i felt by receiving this unlawful ticket... cookie_brighton
  • Score: -2

6:28pm Wed 23 Apr 14

matlock says...

flyingvicar wrote:
As the chap in question may I clarify a few points, often lost in the headlines:

1. There was no healthy and safety risk, there was no active work being done, I was 'rushed' at by an intimidating council worker saying I had no right to take photographs of the lines or what they were doing as it was "official". I was about 100ft away from where the council workers were sitting smoking cigarettes.

I was told 999 was called to have me arrested for taking photographs. This is quite wrong, regardless of the situation.

2. I made a peaceful, one-man protest on the Saturday. Again the council dialled 999 to report a breach of the peace. This for a single person standing on the pavement.

The whole thing is barmy. Not one councillor or council official has replied to five phone calls and two emails with my concerns.

The whole thing is barmy and on reflection quite intimidating. The aspect on Saturday particularly so as the police were insistent on arresting me, despite my perfectly legal rights. They only left after I passed on words of legal advice from a barrister friend who is an expert in civil rights.

The whole matter was peaceful, unobtrusive for the council workers involved and wholly disproportionate. It's all very sad realty that this has happened at all. I am not an agitator, simply making a very polite stand against a scheme no one wants, residents ignored by councillor and officials and what feels like abuse of power by getting the police involved.

It saddens my heart for all concerned and was completely unnecessary.
This surely would have been the most peaceful of all peaceful protests!

I am particularly disturbed that the police would even considering arresting you. For what offence would that have been I wonder?

I would be very interested to know what those words of legal advice were that your barrister friend gave you.
[quote][p][bold]flyingvicar[/bold] wrote: As the chap in question may I clarify a few points, often lost in the headlines: 1. There was no healthy and safety risk, there was no active work being done, I was 'rushed' at by an intimidating council worker saying I had no right to take photographs of the lines or what they were doing as it was "official". I was about 100ft away from where the council workers were sitting smoking cigarettes. I was told 999 was called to have me arrested for taking photographs. This is quite wrong, regardless of the situation. 2. I made a peaceful, one-man protest on the Saturday. Again the council dialled 999 to report a breach of the peace. This for a single person standing on the pavement. The whole thing is barmy. Not one councillor or council official has replied to five phone calls and two emails with my concerns. The whole thing is barmy and on reflection quite intimidating. The aspect on Saturday particularly so as the police were insistent on arresting me, despite my perfectly legal rights. They only left after I passed on words of legal advice from a barrister friend who is an expert in civil rights. The whole matter was peaceful, unobtrusive for the council workers involved and wholly disproportionate. It's all very sad realty that this has happened at all. I am not an agitator, simply making a very polite stand against a scheme no one wants, residents ignored by councillor and officials and what feels like abuse of power by getting the police involved. It saddens my heart for all concerned and was completely unnecessary.[/p][/quote]This surely would have been the most peaceful of all peaceful protests! I am particularly disturbed that the police would even considering arresting you. For what offence would that have been I wonder? I would be very interested to know what those words of legal advice were that your barrister friend gave you. matlock
  • Score: 5

6:32pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Pheasant pluckers son says...

Not even divine intervention can stop the Cash Cow in the parking dept from doing the devils work..
God help the rest of us.
Not even divine intervention can stop the Cash Cow in the parking dept from doing the devils work.. God help the rest of us. Pheasant pluckers son
  • Score: 5

7:39pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

The story here is that the police attended a call. Have you ever tried calling 999. If you have, I bet you were appalled at the slow response you receive.
The story here is that the police attended a call. Have you ever tried calling 999. If you have, I bet you were appalled at the slow response you receive. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 3

11:36pm Wed 23 Apr 14

Vaguely Interested says...

theargusissoinformat
ive
wrote:
Vaguely Interested wrote:
Yep, this is definitely the same guy... https://twitter.com/ brightonflyer Not quite your typical 'Reverend' - Mr Leir has manyand varied interests, not just parking disputes.
Is this really definitely the same guy? Do I believe you? If true, he's just some posh Brighton weirdo masquerading as a vicar. It is as if Adam Campbell has undergone a face transplant and swapped his lime green mankini for a cassock. Odder and odder. Obviously I didn't witness his altercation with the workmen, but I am left wondering, IS THIS REALLY A VICAR?
Oddly enough, the twitter account has now disappeared. Opps, Mr Leir! Caught with your pants down, as it were.
Shame really, as the parking issue is an important one. Getting publicity about it from this particular source doesn't help the case though.
[quote][p][bold]theargusissoinformat ive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vaguely Interested[/bold] wrote: Yep, this is definitely the same guy... https://twitter.com/ brightonflyer Not quite your typical 'Reverend' - Mr Leir has manyand varied interests, not just parking disputes.[/p][/quote]Is this really definitely the same guy? Do I believe you? If true, he's just some posh Brighton weirdo masquerading as a vicar. It is as if Adam Campbell has undergone a face transplant and swapped his lime green mankini for a cassock. Odder and odder. Obviously I didn't witness his altercation with the workmen, but I am left wondering, IS THIS REALLY A VICAR?[/p][/quote]Oddly enough, the twitter account has now disappeared. Opps, Mr Leir! Caught with your pants down, as it were. Shame really, as the parking issue is an important one. Getting publicity about it from this particular source doesn't help the case though. Vaguely Interested
  • Score: 4

10:32am Thu 24 Apr 14

puddingandpi says...

gheese77 wrote:
I find clergy can be the greatest nuisance when trying to get on with your work
Yes, but your work *is* sacrificing virgins... ;-)
[quote][p][bold]gheese77[/bold] wrote: I find clergy can be the greatest nuisance when trying to get on with your work[/p][/quote]Yes, but your work *is* sacrificing virgins... ;-) puddingandpi
  • Score: 1

10:38am Thu 24 Apr 14

puddingandpi says...

flyingvicar wrote:
As the chap in question may I clarify a few points, often lost in the headlines:

1. There was no healthy and safety risk, there was no active work being done, I was 'rushed' at by an intimidating council worker saying I had no right to take photographs of the lines or what they were doing as it was "official". I was about 100ft away from where the council workers were sitting smoking cigarettes.

I was told 999 was called to have me arrested for taking photographs. This is quite wrong, regardless of the situation.

2. I made a peaceful, one-man protest on the Saturday. Again the council dialled 999 to report a breach of the peace. This for a single person standing on the pavement.

The whole thing is barmy. Not one councillor or council official has replied to five phone calls and two emails with my concerns.

The whole thing is barmy and on reflection quite intimidating. The aspect on Saturday particularly so as the police were insistent on arresting me, despite my perfectly legal rights. They only left after I passed on words of legal advice from a barrister friend who is an expert in civil rights.

The whole matter was peaceful, unobtrusive for the council workers involved and wholly disproportionate. It's all very sad realty that this has happened at all. I am not an agitator, simply making a very polite stand against a scheme no one wants, residents ignored by councillor and officials and what feels like abuse of power by getting the police involved.

It saddens my heart for all concerned and was completely unnecessary.
Brighton Independent Mediation Service - 01273 700812
www.bhims.org.uk
mediation@bhims.org.
uk
[quote][p][bold]flyingvicar[/bold] wrote: As the chap in question may I clarify a few points, often lost in the headlines: 1. There was no healthy and safety risk, there was no active work being done, I was 'rushed' at by an intimidating council worker saying I had no right to take photographs of the lines or what they were doing as it was "official". I was about 100ft away from where the council workers were sitting smoking cigarettes. I was told 999 was called to have me arrested for taking photographs. This is quite wrong, regardless of the situation. 2. I made a peaceful, one-man protest on the Saturday. Again the council dialled 999 to report a breach of the peace. This for a single person standing on the pavement. The whole thing is barmy. Not one councillor or council official has replied to five phone calls and two emails with my concerns. The whole thing is barmy and on reflection quite intimidating. The aspect on Saturday particularly so as the police were insistent on arresting me, despite my perfectly legal rights. They only left after I passed on words of legal advice from a barrister friend who is an expert in civil rights. The whole matter was peaceful, unobtrusive for the council workers involved and wholly disproportionate. It's all very sad realty that this has happened at all. I am not an agitator, simply making a very polite stand against a scheme no one wants, residents ignored by councillor and officials and what feels like abuse of power by getting the police involved. It saddens my heart for all concerned and was completely unnecessary.[/p][/quote]Brighton Independent Mediation Service - 01273 700812 www.bhims.org.uk mediation@bhims.org. uk puddingandpi
  • Score: 1

11:46am Thu 24 Apr 14

Gribbet says...

Classic busy body.
Classic busy body. Gribbet
  • Score: -8

1:57pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Kelteriser says...

Bad reporting from the Argus. Your article states clearly among other things that the marking was not done correctly. Now correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it your duty to query this? Shouldn't you be tackling the Council on this?
Exactly what is the Argus's stance here? A paid mouth piece of the council? Or do you represent the people of Brighton?
One of the reasons the Council is high handedly and arrogantly getting away with its treatment of people is that no News Organisation is calling them to task.
Please get off your padded backsides and help the people
Bad reporting from the Argus. Your article states clearly among other things that the marking was not done correctly. Now correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it your duty to query this? Shouldn't you be tackling the Council on this? Exactly what is the Argus's stance here? A paid mouth piece of the council? Or do you represent the people of Brighton? One of the reasons the Council is high handedly and arrogantly getting away with its treatment of people is that no News Organisation is calling them to task. Please get off your padded backsides and help the people Kelteriser
  • Score: 1

4:36pm Thu 24 Apr 14

fredflintstone1 says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
The story here is that the police attended a call. Have you ever tried calling 999. If you have, I bet you were appalled at the slow response you receive.
Exactly! One law for them, another for the rest of us.....
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: The story here is that the police attended a call. Have you ever tried calling 999. If you have, I bet you were appalled at the slow response you receive.[/p][/quote]Exactly! One law for them, another for the rest of us..... fredflintstone1
  • Score: -1

4:41pm Thu 24 Apr 14

fredflintstone1 says...

Gribbet wrote:
Classic busy body.
So when Dr Lucas plonks herself down on a road outside her constituency, do you describe her in the same way? At least the vicar stood on the pavement by all accounts. I thought the Greens were all in favour of community protests??
[quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: Classic busy body.[/p][/quote]So when Dr Lucas plonks herself down on a road outside her constituency, do you describe her in the same way? At least the vicar stood on the pavement by all accounts. I thought the Greens were all in favour of community protests?? fredflintstone1
  • Score: 0

5:06pm Mon 28 Apr 14

50% Is Not A Majority says...

This has nothing to do with the gentIeman's past, profession, character or beliefs: it has everything to do with his and our rights. I was there for some of the time (second police call-out). I can confirm that the gentleman was reasonable throughout, as were the police: expert at diffusing things like this, they quickly realised this was not for them, and that he was within his rights. The council workers I saw and talked to were fine but there were two 'gang bosses', too posh for high vis jackets, one of whom was very unpleasant. The gang had a good name for him, though! All credit to a citizen standing their ground, and re-asserting our rights: similar rights to those that allows coward trolls their puerile sniping from the shadows.
This has nothing to do with the gentIeman's past, profession, character or beliefs: it has everything to do with his and our rights. I was there for some of the time (second police call-out). I can confirm that the gentleman was reasonable throughout, as were the police: expert at diffusing things like this, they quickly realised this was not for them, and that he was within his rights. The council workers I saw and talked to were fine but there were two 'gang bosses', too posh for high vis jackets, one of whom was very unpleasant. The gang had a good name for him, though! All credit to a citizen standing their ground, and re-asserting our rights: similar rights to those that allows coward trolls their puerile sniping from the shadows. 50% Is Not A Majority
  • Score: -3

11:33am Tue 29 Apr 14

Vaguely Interested says...

50% Is Not A Majority wrote:
This has nothing to do with the gentIeman's past, profession, character or beliefs: it has everything to do with his and our rights. I was there for some of the time (second police call-out). I can confirm that the gentleman was reasonable throughout, as were the police: expert at diffusing things like this, they quickly realised this was not for them, and that he was within his rights. The council workers I saw and talked to were fine but there were two 'gang bosses', too posh for high vis jackets, one of whom was very unpleasant. The gang had a good name for him, though! All credit to a citizen standing their ground, and re-asserting our rights: similar rights to those that allows coward trolls their puerile sniping from the shadows.
I agree; the story should be about the ridiculous expansion of parking zones. However, the main person bringing this story to light is mis-representing himself, which does not do the cause any favours.
[quote][p][bold]50% Is Not A Majority[/bold] wrote: This has nothing to do with the gentIeman's past, profession, character or beliefs: it has everything to do with his and our rights. I was there for some of the time (second police call-out). I can confirm that the gentleman was reasonable throughout, as were the police: expert at diffusing things like this, they quickly realised this was not for them, and that he was within his rights. The council workers I saw and talked to were fine but there were two 'gang bosses', too posh for high vis jackets, one of whom was very unpleasant. The gang had a good name for him, though! All credit to a citizen standing their ground, and re-asserting our rights: similar rights to those that allows coward trolls their puerile sniping from the shadows.[/p][/quote]I agree; the story should be about the ridiculous expansion of parking zones. However, the main person bringing this story to light is mis-representing himself, which does not do the cause any favours. Vaguely Interested
  • Score: 3

1:31pm Thu 1 May 14

50% Is Not A Majority says...

Vaguely Interested wrote:
50% Is Not A Majority wrote:
This has nothing to do with the gentIeman's past, profession, character or beliefs: it has everything to do with his and our rights. I was there for some of the time (second police call-out). I can confirm that the gentleman was reasonable throughout, as were the police: expert at diffusing things like this, they quickly realised this was not for them, and that he was within his rights. The council workers I saw and talked to were fine but there were two 'gang bosses', too posh for high vis jackets, one of whom was very unpleasant. The gang had a good name for him, though! All credit to a citizen standing their ground, and re-asserting our rights: similar rights to those that allows coward trolls their puerile sniping from the shadows.
I agree; the story should be about the ridiculous expansion of parking zones. However, the main person bringing this story to light is mis-representing himself, which does not do the cause any favours.
I meant to vote "-1" for your post. He is not "the main person bringing this to light" on any level. Your problem with this gentleman (or your lack of information) appears to be tripping you up, and you clearly know nothing about the local campaign here. Are the shadows calling to you?
[quote][p][bold]Vaguely Interested[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]50% Is Not A Majority[/bold] wrote: This has nothing to do with the gentIeman's past, profession, character or beliefs: it has everything to do with his and our rights. I was there for some of the time (second police call-out). I can confirm that the gentleman was reasonable throughout, as were the police: expert at diffusing things like this, they quickly realised this was not for them, and that he was within his rights. The council workers I saw and talked to were fine but there were two 'gang bosses', too posh for high vis jackets, one of whom was very unpleasant. The gang had a good name for him, though! All credit to a citizen standing their ground, and re-asserting our rights: similar rights to those that allows coward trolls their puerile sniping from the shadows.[/p][/quote]I agree; the story should be about the ridiculous expansion of parking zones. However, the main person bringing this story to light is mis-representing himself, which does not do the cause any favours.[/p][/quote]I meant to vote "-1" for your post. He is not "the main person bringing this to light" on any level. Your problem with this gentleman (or your lack of information) appears to be tripping you up, and you clearly know nothing about the local campaign here. Are the shadows calling to you? 50% Is Not A Majority
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