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Choccywoccydoodah counts cost of 'out of control' Brighton squat party

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The owners of Choccywoccydoodah have told The Argus of the shocking state squatters left their empty Duke Street shop in following yesterday's dramatic raid. 

Riot police entered the shop yesterday morning after a man was found wandering nearby with head injuries. 

Squatters said yesterday that the violence happened after a party which started over the weekend got out of hand. Four people have since been arrested. 

Christine Taylor, founder and director of Choccywoccydoodah, arrived at the scene shortly after the raid.

She said there was “untold damage” caused to the building and what she believed was human waste all over the ground floor and upper floors of the building - despite there being a working toilet inside.

Speaking from the trashed ground floor of the shop, she said: “From what I understand there was a party last night and someone got hurt.

“Doors have been damaged and the walls have been painted, there is faeces everywhere too. We're going to have to get a professional cleaning company in.”

Asked what she thought of the squatters, she said: “I think in all honesty, I talked to as many as I could and there were a very small number of children who have slipped through the system who don't have parental care and have fallen through any sort of safety net that the social services offered them.

“I have sympathy for those ones. There's a teenager and he's a decent kid, he just doesn't know where to turn to.

"The rest, the older ones, they're just middle-class, educated and have drug problems. But I feel more sorry for me than I do them.”

It is the second time in a month Ms Taylor has dealt with squatters. She believes the same group occupied Choccywoccydoodah's new shop in Meeting House Lane in February, shortly before the firm moved.

She added: “We're a tiny family business. Every penny that comes into the company goes back out on staff. My staff have a very interesting background between all of them.

"They haven't had to do this, they worked really hard. This sort of thing for a company this size threatens our livelihood. We can't afford to subsidise 30 people sleeping here.”

Squatter George Justice, 16, said a group of around ten people arrived at the building on Friday and treated it with “respect”, but then over the weekend further squatters arrived and caused trouble.

He said: “We thought it was completely empty and closed down because the shutters were down, the building was empty and there is a sign on the door saying the company had moved.

"Also there is a 'to let' sign up above the shop. “It was beautiful, we tried to treat it with as much respect as possible. But then some others came over and just tore the place up.

“There were just too many people in there. “It's annoying that we try and treat places with respect and others come along and trash it. It gives us a bad name.”

Asked what his plans were now, he said: “I'll rough sleep for a bit and wait for another building.”

Another squatter, who didn't want to be named, said: “Basically we were squatting it only for a few days but some of those who were in there decided to throw a party and invited everyone in Brighton to it. It all got out of control.

“We got back from a night out and it was already going on with loads of random people in there. At the end of the day when you've got youngsters in the squats who don't know the cardinal rules, don't invite out of control people in.”

The Argus spoke to another squatter claiming to be called Sebastian Stain, who said he was responsible for throwing the party.

Talking in the third person, he said: “This geezer called Sebastian broke in and had a party. I don't care that the others are annoyed they got kicked out because of it.

“It's a political view and a statement against the establishment. Bring down the establishment. I told the police 'at least let me sleep so I don't have a hangover'. They woke me up. I was very upset. They said 'wake up' I said 'no' and then they threw me out.”

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6:40am Thu 24 Apr 14

crazy_plan says...

" I told the police 'at least let me sleep so I don't have a hangover'. They woke me up. I was very upset. They said 'wake up' I said 'no' and then they threw me out.”

Classic moron
" I told the police 'at least let me sleep so I don't have a hangover'. They woke me up. I was very upset. They said 'wake up' I said 'no' and then they threw me out.” Classic moron crazy_plan
  • Score: 170

6:42am Thu 24 Apr 14

rogerthefish says...

The labour Government as usual got this wrong as usual after all those years of talking about banning squatting they only did residential property and I will imagine it will now take another 20 years before commercial properties included.
The labour Government as usual got this wrong as usual after all those years of talking about banning squatting they only did residential property and I will imagine it will now take another 20 years before commercial properties included. rogerthefish
  • Score: 38

6:52am Thu 24 Apr 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Human waste all over the floor......hence the name squatters. Dirty George and Sebastian.
Human waste all over the floor......hence the name squatters. Dirty George and Sebastian. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 79

6:55am Thu 24 Apr 14

paul6391 says...

hope the police gave them a good kicking aswell..utter scum
hope the police gave them a good kicking aswell..utter scum paul6391
  • Score: 63

7:17am Thu 24 Apr 14

hoveguyactually says...

Vermin are vermin and deserve no sympathy.
Vermin are vermin and deserve no sympathy. hoveguyactually
  • Score: 81

7:35am Thu 24 Apr 14

AlanPare says...

rogerthefish wrote:
The labour Government as usual got this wrong as usual after all those years of talking about banning squatting they only did residential property and I will imagine it will now take another 20 years before commercial properties included.
The Coalition government brought the law in. Maybe you should stick to rogering fish.
[quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: The labour Government as usual got this wrong as usual after all those years of talking about banning squatting they only did residential property and I will imagine it will now take another 20 years before commercial properties included.[/p][/quote]The Coalition government brought the law in. Maybe you should stick to rogering fish. AlanPare
  • Score: 59

8:04am Thu 24 Apr 14

Skidrow says...

Having recently enquired as to the price of a wedding cake in there, and been told £850 for one that served 100, the employees must be very well paid if every penny they take goes on staff. Or does that include the owners? Has everyone lost touch with reality? £8.50 for a small slice of cake? Open house and you think at 16 you can control it?
Having recently enquired as to the price of a wedding cake in there, and been told £850 for one that served 100, the employees must be very well paid if every penny they take goes on staff. Or does that include the owners? Has everyone lost touch with reality? £8.50 for a small slice of cake? Open house and you think at 16 you can control it? Skidrow
  • Score: -94

8:34am Thu 24 Apr 14

Hovegeek says...

Skidrow wrote:
Having recently enquired as to the price of a wedding cake in there, and been told £850 for one that served 100, the employees must be very well paid if every penny they take goes on staff. Or does that include the owners? Has everyone lost touch with reality? £8.50 for a small slice of cake? Open house and you think at 16 you can control it?
It's not just any cake though, the level of skill and care that goes into it is astounding. Sure if they were to just knock up a sponge and cover it in icing it would be a ripoff but their staff are very good at what they do, which commands a decent wage.

There's always Lidl ;)
[quote][p][bold]Skidrow[/bold] wrote: Having recently enquired as to the price of a wedding cake in there, and been told £850 for one that served 100, the employees must be very well paid if every penny they take goes on staff. Or does that include the owners? Has everyone lost touch with reality? £8.50 for a small slice of cake? Open house and you think at 16 you can control it?[/p][/quote]It's not just any cake though, the level of skill and care that goes into it is astounding. Sure if they were to just knock up a sponge and cover it in icing it would be a ripoff but their staff are very good at what they do, which commands a decent wage. There's always Lidl ;) Hovegeek
  • Score: 131

8:57am Thu 24 Apr 14

s&k says...

What a waste of good public school education!
What a waste of good public school education! s&k
  • Score: 28

9:27am Thu 24 Apr 14

Jormungand says...

You cannot say all squatters are bad people. When I was squatting few years ago, a random female non-squatter came to a squat and took a dump in one of the rooms. It was a squatter who had to clean it up after her. Usually squatters do take care of the property. Last year, a landlady owning a non-residential property in south laines made a deal with squatters and let them squat in her property as they were taking care of the property very well. Of course, making criminal damages / unnecessary damages to a property should not be tolerated but judging people because they are squatters is utterly wrong. Most of them are vulnerable individuals who are neglected by the society.
You cannot say all squatters are bad people. When I was squatting few years ago, a random female non-squatter came to a squat and took a dump in one of the rooms. It was a squatter who had to clean it up after her. Usually squatters do take care of the property. Last year, a landlady owning a non-residential property in south laines made a deal with squatters and let them squat in her property as they were taking care of the property very well. Of course, making criminal damages / unnecessary damages to a property should not be tolerated but judging people because they are squatters is utterly wrong. Most of them are vulnerable individuals who are neglected by the society. Jormungand
  • Score: -42

9:36am Thu 24 Apr 14

JHunty says...

AlanPare wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
The labour Government as usual got this wrong as usual after all those years of talking about banning squatting they only did residential property and I will imagine it will now take another 20 years before commercial properties included.
The Coalition government brought the law in. Maybe you should stick to rogering fish.
Hi Alan are you out of denial now his dad has admitted that actually three of his sons were in Syria fighting as Jihadis?
[quote][p][bold]AlanPare[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: The labour Government as usual got this wrong as usual after all those years of talking about banning squatting they only did residential property and I will imagine it will now take another 20 years before commercial properties included.[/p][/quote]The Coalition government brought the law in. Maybe you should stick to rogering fish.[/p][/quote]Hi Alan are you out of denial now his dad has admitted that actually three of his sons were in Syria fighting as Jihadis? JHunty
  • Score: -7

10:00am Thu 24 Apr 14

roystony says...

"We got back from a night out and it was already going on with loads of random people in there. At the end of the day when you've got youngsters in the squats who don't know the cardinal rules, don't invite out of control people in.”

Another cardinal rule must be to crap on the floor where you sleep.
"We got back from a night out and it was already going on with loads of random people in there. At the end of the day when you've got youngsters in the squats who don't know the cardinal rules, don't invite out of control people in.” Another cardinal rule must be to crap on the floor where you sleep. roystony
  • Score: 36

10:12am Thu 24 Apr 14

NickBrt says...

Isn't there a cardinal rule about not squatting in somewhere your not entitled to?
Isn't there a cardinal rule about not squatting in somewhere your not entitled to? NickBrt
  • Score: 54

10:18am Thu 24 Apr 14

Brighton Bill says...

Respect, no respect for other peoples property, the owner's let you sleep there "Rent Free" and you stoll abuse it, some of you scum are worse than animals, no respect for anything or anybody. waste of space, should be lined up against a wall and shot LOL
Respect, no respect for other peoples property, the owner's let you sleep there "Rent Free" and you stoll abuse it, some of you scum are worse than animals, no respect for anything or anybody. waste of space, should be lined up against a wall and shot LOL Brighton Bill
  • Score: 30

10:22am Thu 24 Apr 14

Goldenwight says...

Come on guys, be fair. I'm sure these squatters had every intention of cleaning up the building, leaving it immaculate and vacating it yesterday afternoon.

If it weren't for those nasty Policemen coming around and arresting them all before they had a chance to get the hoover out, that is...
Come on guys, be fair. I'm sure these squatters had every intention of cleaning up the building, leaving it immaculate and vacating it yesterday afternoon. If it weren't for those nasty Policemen coming around and arresting them all before they had a chance to get the hoover out, that is... Goldenwight
  • Score: 50

10:25am Thu 24 Apr 14

fredaj says...

Hovegeek wrote:
Skidrow wrote:
Having recently enquired as to the price of a wedding cake in there, and been told £850 for one that served 100, the employees must be very well paid if every penny they take goes on staff. Or does that include the owners? Has everyone lost touch with reality? £8.50 for a small slice of cake? Open house and you think at 16 you can control it?
It's not just any cake though, the level of skill and care that goes into it is astounding. Sure if they were to just knock up a sponge and cover it in icing it would be a ripoff but their staff are very good at what they do, which commands a decent wage.

There's always Lidl ;)
Indeed - I bought my wedding cake there and it was fantastic!
[quote][p][bold]Hovegeek[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skidrow[/bold] wrote: Having recently enquired as to the price of a wedding cake in there, and been told £850 for one that served 100, the employees must be very well paid if every penny they take goes on staff. Or does that include the owners? Has everyone lost touch with reality? £8.50 for a small slice of cake? Open house and you think at 16 you can control it?[/p][/quote]It's not just any cake though, the level of skill and care that goes into it is astounding. Sure if they were to just knock up a sponge and cover it in icing it would be a ripoff but their staff are very good at what they do, which commands a decent wage. There's always Lidl ;)[/p][/quote]Indeed - I bought my wedding cake there and it was fantastic! fredaj
  • Score: 36

10:31am Thu 24 Apr 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

fredaj wrote:
Hovegeek wrote:
Skidrow wrote:
Having recently enquired as to the price of a wedding cake in there, and been told £850 for one that served 100, the employees must be very well paid if every penny they take goes on staff. Or does that include the owners? Has everyone lost touch with reality? £8.50 for a small slice of cake? Open house and you think at 16 you can control it?
It's not just any cake though, the level of skill and care that goes into it is astounding. Sure if they were to just knock up a sponge and cover it in icing it would be a ripoff but their staff are very good at what they do, which commands a decent wage.

There's always Lidl ;)
Indeed - I bought my wedding cake there and it was fantastic!
Did you have the reception at Mac Donald's too?
[quote][p][bold]fredaj[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovegeek[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skidrow[/bold] wrote: Having recently enquired as to the price of a wedding cake in there, and been told £850 for one that served 100, the employees must be very well paid if every penny they take goes on staff. Or does that include the owners? Has everyone lost touch with reality? £8.50 for a small slice of cake? Open house and you think at 16 you can control it?[/p][/quote]It's not just any cake though, the level of skill and care that goes into it is astounding. Sure if they were to just knock up a sponge and cover it in icing it would be a ripoff but their staff are very good at what they do, which commands a decent wage. There's always Lidl ;)[/p][/quote]Indeed - I bought my wedding cake there and it was fantastic![/p][/quote]Did you have the reception at Mac Donald's too? Telscombe Cliffy
  • Score: -30

10:47am Thu 24 Apr 14

gheese77 says...

Brighton Bill wrote:
Respect, no respect for other peoples property, the owner's let you sleep there "Rent Free" and you stoll abuse it, some of you scum are worse than animals, no respect for anything or anybody. waste of space, should be lined up against a wall and shot LOL
Summary execution for trespass / criminal damage seems rather harsh. Glad you find it funny though
[quote][p][bold]Brighton Bill[/bold] wrote: Respect, no respect for other peoples property, the owner's let you sleep there "Rent Free" and you stoll abuse it, some of you scum are worse than animals, no respect for anything or anybody. waste of space, should be lined up against a wall and shot LOL[/p][/quote]Summary execution for trespass / criminal damage seems rather harsh. Glad you find it funny though gheese77
  • Score: -13

11:03am Thu 24 Apr 14

Gee Jay says...

As a nation we have brought this, and many other types of anti-social behaviour, on ourselves.
It is as a result of Liberal/Left, over tolerent, indulging attitude to bad, anti social behaviour and lifestyles over the past 40 years, and it will only get worse.
We have encouraged people to believe that it is their right to live off of others, that there will be no consequences if they behave in an anti-social way, disrespect and challenge any sort of authority and rule of law (unless they can hide behind it themselves).
I hope it is not too late for us to wake up and start rewarding the vast majority of the population who have self respect, strive in their lives to provide for themselves and their families, and look after the genuinely less fortunate ones. By reward, I mean making them feel they, and their values are being defended by a democratically elected government, a robust judiciary and an unbiased media.
As a nation we have brought this, and many other types of anti-social behaviour, on ourselves. It is as a result of Liberal/Left, over tolerent, indulging attitude to bad, anti social behaviour and lifestyles over the past 40 years, and it will only get worse. We have encouraged people to believe that it is their right to live off of others, that there will be no consequences if they behave in an anti-social way, disrespect and challenge any sort of authority and rule of law (unless they can hide behind it themselves). I hope it is not too late for us to wake up and start rewarding the vast majority of the population who have self respect, strive in their lives to provide for themselves and their families, and look after the genuinely less fortunate ones. By reward, I mean making them feel they, and their values are being defended by a democratically elected government, a robust judiciary and an unbiased media. Gee Jay
  • Score: 32

12:26pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Mr chock says...

ohh how nice this comment is from a squatter >> Another squatter, who didn't want to be named, said: “Basically we were squatting it only for a few days but some of those who were in there decided to throw a party and invited everyone in Brighton to it. It all got out of control.
..his using the caroline Lucas excuse " give me another 15 minutes to have a peaceful protest ..." ....

i am under the impression that housing is SO SO costly that squatting is now becoming a massive issue . lets find a big empty building that has no toilets and no neighbours and let them squatt there .. OHh Anston House tower in Preston Road,? London road is massive and empty
ohh how nice this comment is from a squatter >> Another squatter, who didn't want to be named, said: “Basically we were squatting it only for a few days but some of those who were in there decided to throw a party and invited everyone in Brighton to it. It all got out of control. ..his using the caroline Lucas excuse " give me another 15 minutes to have a peaceful protest ..." .... i am under the impression that housing is SO SO costly that squatting is now becoming a massive issue . lets find a big empty building that has no toilets and no neighbours and let them squatt there .. OHh Anston House tower in Preston Road,? London road is massive and empty Mr chock
  • Score: 27

1:17pm Thu 24 Apr 14

FatherTed11 says...

Should have locked the doors and thrown in tear gas and grenades.
Should have locked the doors and thrown in tear gas and grenades. FatherTed11
  • Score: 17

1:42pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Mark63 says...

Squatters are a synbol of our council's attitude to hard-working people. Let the do-nothing take-everything types do what they want here despite the cost to hard working property owners and decent citizens. The lazy self-indulgent idiots that cause such damage should be signed up to the army to learn some respect... Why so soft on them? They need a lesson or two....
Squatters are a synbol of our council's attitude to hard-working people. Let the do-nothing take-everything types do what they want here despite the cost to hard working property owners and decent citizens. The lazy self-indulgent idiots that cause such damage should be signed up to the army to learn some respect... Why so soft on them? They need a lesson or two.... Mark63
  • Score: 23

2:09pm Thu 24 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

Basically these are the people the benefit agency needs to tackle,if you have no fixed address so they have none of the normal day to day living expenditure ,so rather than them wasteing money on drink and drugs give them food vouchers.
Basically these are the people the benefit agency needs to tackle,if you have no fixed address so they have none of the normal day to day living expenditure ,so rather than them wasteing money on drink and drugs give them food vouchers. clubrob6
  • Score: 17

3:15pm Thu 24 Apr 14

wendy-uk says...

Choccywoccydoodah are lucky that the police threw the squatters out. A friend of mine owns a commercial property, one floor of which she was in the middle of having decorated between tenants when squatters broke in. The police would do nothing and by the time she got a court order to remove them, they had caused thousands of pounds worth of damage which she had to pay for out of her own pocket. That building is her livelihood. The police just said they couldn't get involved in spite of the squatters terrorising the tenants on the other floors.
Choccywoccydoodah are lucky that the police threw the squatters out. A friend of mine owns a commercial property, one floor of which she was in the middle of having decorated between tenants when squatters broke in. The police would do nothing and by the time she got a court order to remove them, they had caused thousands of pounds worth of damage which she had to pay for out of her own pocket. That building is her livelihood. The police just said they couldn't get involved in spite of the squatters terrorising the tenants on the other floors. wendy-uk
  • Score: 18

3:22pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Goldenwight says...

wendy-uk wrote:
Choccywoccydoodah are lucky that the police threw the squatters out. A friend of mine owns a commercial property, one floor of which she was in the middle of having decorated between tenants when squatters broke in. The police would do nothing and by the time she got a court order to remove them, they had caused thousands of pounds worth of damage which she had to pay for out of her own pocket. That building is her livelihood. The police just said they couldn't get involved in spite of the squatters terrorising the tenants on the other floors.
I don't think the Police actually threw the squatters out- they just turned up en mass to effect an arrest or two. Those squatters still present saw which way the wind was blowing and took the first stage out of Dodge.

I hope your friend managed to get back on track with her property.
[quote][p][bold]wendy-uk[/bold] wrote: Choccywoccydoodah are lucky that the police threw the squatters out. A friend of mine owns a commercial property, one floor of which she was in the middle of having decorated between tenants when squatters broke in. The police would do nothing and by the time she got a court order to remove them, they had caused thousands of pounds worth of damage which she had to pay for out of her own pocket. That building is her livelihood. The police just said they couldn't get involved in spite of the squatters terrorising the tenants on the other floors.[/p][/quote]I don't think the Police actually threw the squatters out- they just turned up en mass to effect an arrest or two. Those squatters still present saw which way the wind was blowing and took the first stage out of Dodge. I hope your friend managed to get back on track with her property. Goldenwight
  • Score: 15

4:38pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Wakewaterblue says...

I was wondering when the next squatter article would appear in the Argus, it happens a lot in Brighton, more than some realise! Such a shame the premises was so badly damaged. I have recently set up a company in Brighton to prevent exactly this problem. We are called Intuitive Guardians and place highly vetted "Guardians" to live in empty vulnerable properties, make them habitable on a temporary basis and they deter squatters, theft, criminal damage because they are the eyes and ears for the premises and have have signs on the premises to make it clear it's occupied by us. It provides adventurous people with cheaper accommodation in Brighton, people such as key workers AND prevents this squatting epidemic that occurs in Brighton on a daily basis.
Shutters and locks just don't deter them, boarding up screams out the premises is empty, looks very unsightly and it's not tamper proof, our scheme works because if the premises are already full/occupied, they are simply wasting their time to even try and enter because they have no gain.
I was wondering when the next squatter article would appear in the Argus, it happens a lot in Brighton, more than some realise! Such a shame the premises was so badly damaged. I have recently set up a company in Brighton to prevent exactly this problem. We are called Intuitive Guardians and place highly vetted "Guardians" to live in empty vulnerable properties, make them habitable on a temporary basis and they deter squatters, theft, criminal damage because they are the eyes and ears for the premises and have have signs on the premises to make it clear it's occupied by us. It provides adventurous people with cheaper accommodation in Brighton, people such as key workers AND prevents this squatting epidemic that occurs in Brighton on a daily basis. Shutters and locks just don't deter them, boarding up screams out the premises is empty, looks very unsightly and it's not tamper proof, our scheme works because if the premises are already full/occupied, they are simply wasting their time to even try and enter because they have no gain. Wakewaterblue
  • Score: 4

5:22pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Zeta Function says...

It's a housing problem caused by crazy housing policies.

It doesn't help that the local housing allowance , LHA, is too low for even bedsit flats across the city. The wrongly described LHA rate for a one bedroom flat doesn't even cover a bedsit. Under 35 and tenants can apply for £78.98 a week, to share bedsit facilities, but still pay a high deposit, and there is no escaping council tax payment now CT benefits have been cut.

Do the maths and you can see why squatting is forced upon people.
It's a housing problem caused by crazy housing policies. It doesn't help that the local housing allowance , LHA, is too low for even bedsit flats across the city. The wrongly described LHA rate for a one bedroom flat doesn't even cover a bedsit. Under 35 and tenants can apply for £78.98 a week, to share bedsit facilities, but still pay a high deposit, and there is no escaping council tax payment now CT benefits have been cut. Do the maths and you can see why squatting is forced upon people. Zeta Function
  • Score: 8

6:11pm Thu 24 Apr 14

L bailey says...

I wonder which one of the squatters will become a Lord in the future.
I wonder which one of the squatters will become a Lord in the future. L bailey
  • Score: 7

6:32pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Levent says...

Zeta Function wrote:
It's a housing problem caused by crazy housing policies.

It doesn't help that the local housing allowance , LHA, is too low for even bedsit flats across the city. The wrongly described LHA rate for a one bedroom flat doesn't even cover a bedsit. Under 35 and tenants can apply for £78.98 a week, to share bedsit facilities, but still pay a high deposit, and there is no escaping council tax payment now CT benefits have been cut.

Do the maths and you can see why squatting is forced upon people.
It's not the squatting, it's the way they destroy any property they manage to get access to. It's very hard for anyone to have sympathy for squatters once they've defacated all over the place. Just shows the sub-human scum that passes for squatters these days, but I doubt a bed-wetting marxist like you loses any sleep over that, unless it were YOUR property that was being ruined of course.
Just as well you're NEVER own one, eh?
[quote][p][bold]Zeta Function[/bold] wrote: It's a housing problem caused by crazy housing policies. It doesn't help that the local housing allowance , LHA, is too low for even bedsit flats across the city. The wrongly described LHA rate for a one bedroom flat doesn't even cover a bedsit. Under 35 and tenants can apply for £78.98 a week, to share bedsit facilities, but still pay a high deposit, and there is no escaping council tax payment now CT benefits have been cut. Do the maths and you can see why squatting is forced upon people.[/p][/quote]It's not the squatting, it's the way they destroy any property they manage to get access to. It's very hard for anyone to have sympathy for squatters once they've defacated all over the place. Just shows the sub-human scum that passes for squatters these days, but I doubt a bed-wetting marxist like you loses any sleep over that, unless it were YOUR property that was being ruined of course. Just as well you're NEVER own one, eh? Levent
  • Score: 12

10:30am Fri 25 Apr 14

BrunswickSquare says...

Why is a 16 year old squatting?
Why is a 16 year old squatting? BrunswickSquare
  • Score: 10

1:41pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Mike Ockslong says...

Squattywattypooparty
Squattywattypooparty Mike Ockslong
  • Score: 15

1:49pm Fri 25 Apr 14

DistinctLackOfGravitas says...

Levent wrote:
Zeta Function wrote:
It's a housing problem caused by crazy housing policies.

It doesn't help that the local housing allowance , LHA, is too low for even bedsit flats across the city. The wrongly described LHA rate for a one bedroom flat doesn't even cover a bedsit. Under 35 and tenants can apply for £78.98 a week, to share bedsit facilities, but still pay a high deposit, and there is no escaping council tax payment now CT benefits have been cut.

Do the maths and you can see why squatting is forced upon people.
It's not the squatting, it's the way they destroy any property they manage to get access to. It's very hard for anyone to have sympathy for squatters once they've defacated all over the place. Just shows the sub-human scum that passes for squatters these days, but I doubt a bed-wetting marxist like you loses any sleep over that, unless it were YOUR property that was being ruined of course.
Just as well you're NEVER own one, eh?
The thing is, "Squatters respect abandoned building and live there happily, keeping it in good condition" doesn't really make an exciting headline, so you're not going to hear about those examples (like the one posted above by Jormungand), just about the cases like this where some idiots make a mess.
[quote][p][bold]Levent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zeta Function[/bold] wrote: It's a housing problem caused by crazy housing policies. It doesn't help that the local housing allowance , LHA, is too low for even bedsit flats across the city. The wrongly described LHA rate for a one bedroom flat doesn't even cover a bedsit. Under 35 and tenants can apply for £78.98 a week, to share bedsit facilities, but still pay a high deposit, and there is no escaping council tax payment now CT benefits have been cut. Do the maths and you can see why squatting is forced upon people.[/p][/quote]It's not the squatting, it's the way they destroy any property they manage to get access to. It's very hard for anyone to have sympathy for squatters once they've defacated all over the place. Just shows the sub-human scum that passes for squatters these days, but I doubt a bed-wetting marxist like you loses any sleep over that, unless it were YOUR property that was being ruined of course. Just as well you're NEVER own one, eh?[/p][/quote]The thing is, "Squatters respect abandoned building and live there happily, keeping it in good condition" doesn't really make an exciting headline, so you're not going to hear about those examples (like the one posted above by Jormungand), just about the cases like this where some idiots make a mess. DistinctLackOfGravitas
  • Score: 3

1:54pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Sir Prised says...

“It's annoying that we try and treat places with respect and others come along and trash it. It gives us a bad name.” - You're a trespasser - one who enters upon another's land, or violates their rights - pure and simple. Attempting to claim the moral high-ground is a bit bizarre to say the least. Try earning your own money rather than adding to the expense of others!
“It's annoying that we try and treat places with respect and others come along and trash it. It gives us a bad name.” - You're a trespasser - one who enters upon another's land, or violates their rights - pure and simple. Attempting to claim the moral high-ground is a bit bizarre to say the least. Try earning your own money rather than adding to the expense of others! Sir Prised
  • Score: 7

4:17pm Fri 25 Apr 14

paulsharp123 says...

there was only 12 people living there and it did not go down how the police say the man that got beat up because he was trying to toch up a 17 teen year old girl and he is like 40 odd now thaats rong wat would the police wat us to leave it and let the girl get touched up no I don't think so
there was only 12 people living there and it did not go down how the police say the man that got beat up because he was trying to toch up a 17 teen year old girl and he is like 40 odd now thaats rong wat would the police wat us to leave it and let the girl get touched up no I don't think so paulsharp123
  • Score: -14

11:56pm Fri 25 Apr 14

KarenT says...

Is there any way we could institute an enforced squatter neutering programme? Then eventually they would just die out, a bit like the dodo.
Is there any way we could institute an enforced squatter neutering programme? Then eventually they would just die out, a bit like the dodo. KarenT
  • Score: 1

5:20pm Sat 26 Apr 14

pumpkineater23 says...

"The rest, the older ones, they're just middle-class, educated and have drug problems"

The petty shallow minded amongst us often fail to differentiate between drug abuse and drug use. Most of the squats I ever visited (when I was younger) were positive happy places. I've been to many squat parties (again, in my younger years), all great fun with no problems. If antisocial behavior is what you're looking for, look no further than West Street on a Saturday night.
"The rest, the older ones, they're just middle-class, educated and have drug problems" The petty shallow minded amongst us often fail to differentiate between drug abuse and drug use. Most of the squats I ever visited (when I was younger) were positive happy places. I've been to many squat parties (again, in my younger years), all great fun with no problems. If antisocial behavior is what you're looking for, look no further than West Street on a Saturday night. pumpkineater23
  • Score: 0

5:25am Sun 27 Apr 14

paulsharp123 says...

tbh all you people dont know squatters and you are judge them how can you say all this about them wen you have not met them there are nice people and clean it was people how came to the lil party that was not invited and there caused all the **** i am a squaer and i work and pay my way and all the others i live with go and work to so you lot want to get you facts write end of rant ............
tbh all you people dont know squatters and you are judge them how can you say all this about them wen you have not met them there are nice people and clean it was people how came to the lil party that was not invited and there caused all the **** i am a squaer and i work and pay my way and all the others i live with go and work to so you lot want to get you facts write end of rant ............ paulsharp123
  • Score: -6

2:46pm Tue 29 Apr 14

scoomber says...

paulsharp123 wrote:
tbh all you people dont know squatters and you are judge them how can you say all this about them wen you have not met them there are nice people and clean it was people how came to the lil party that was not invited and there caused all the **** i am a squaer and i work and pay my way and all the others i live with go and work to so you lot want to get you facts write end of rant ............
You are an Argus proofreader and I claim my £5!!
[quote][p][bold]paulsharp123[/bold] wrote: tbh all you people dont know squatters and you are judge them how can you say all this about them wen you have not met them there are nice people and clean it was people how came to the lil party that was not invited and there caused all the **** i am a squaer and i work and pay my way and all the others i live with go and work to so you lot want to get you facts write end of rant ............[/p][/quote]You are an Argus proofreader and I claim my £5!! scoomber
  • Score: 6

1:29am Fri 23 May 14

Mr chock says...

KarenT wrote:
Is there any way we could institute an enforced squatter neutering programme? Then eventually they would just die out, a bit like the dodo.
you really do have a mind of a dog owner .. .. they are squatting in an empty building the party got a bit out of hand and YES a guy was seen walking about with blood stained clothing .. now KarenT wants them to be removed like the Dodo you know why that is extinct ?
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: Is there any way we could institute an enforced squatter neutering programme? Then eventually they would just die out, a bit like the dodo.[/p][/quote]you really do have a mind of a dog owner .. .. they are squatting in an empty building the party got a bit out of hand and YES a guy was seen walking about with blood stained clothing .. now KarenT wants them to be removed like the Dodo you know why that is extinct ? Mr chock
  • Score: -1

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