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March for England route to be reviewed after Brighton road collapse

The Argus: March for England route to be reviewed after road collapse March for England route to be reviewed after road collapse

Sunday's March for England event may be moved following the collapse of a road, police have confirmed.

The annual nationalist march is due to be held along the A259 King’s Road, Brighton.

Earlier this morning (April 25) part of the road collapsed.

Workmen had been fixing a fire exit at the Fortune of War pub, situated below the road.

The hole is located where nationalists are due to congregate ahead of the march on Sunday.

A Sussex Police spokeswoman said experts were on the scene carrying out an inspection.

She added a decision would be made later today or tomorrow into whether the march should be moved further down the road.

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11:16am Fri 25 Apr 14

FC says...

Don't change the route. Let them take their chances.
Don't change the route. Let them take their chances. FC
  • Score: 63

11:29am Fri 25 Apr 14

sean.key@btinternet.com says...

Its far far worse than that. If there is a large public order problem how are ambulances and police vehicles going to move around the City as its grid-locked?

If the road can't be opened it can be run safely IMHO.
Its far far worse than that. If there is a large public order problem how are ambulances and police vehicles going to move around the City as its grid-locked? If the road can't be opened it can be run safely IMHO. sean.key@btinternet.com
  • Score: 20

11:42am Fri 25 Apr 14

nuttyju says...

Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!! nuttyju
  • Score: -76

11:44am Fri 25 Apr 14

Saltdean Resident says...

Best excuse to cancel it and let the people of Brighton have their city back for the day.
Best excuse to cancel it and let the people of Brighton have their city back for the day. Saltdean Resident
  • Score: 84

11:48am Fri 25 Apr 14

Lord_Byron says...

Saltdean Resident wrote:
Best excuse to cancel it and let the people of Brighton have their city back for the day.
"a decision would be made later today or tomorrow into whether the march should be moved further down the road"..... to somewhere like Hastings... or Moscow?
[quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: Best excuse to cancel it and let the people of Brighton have their city back for the day.[/p][/quote]"a decision would be made later today or tomorrow into whether the march should be moved further down the road"..... to somewhere like Hastings... or Moscow? Lord_Byron
  • Score: 48

11:49am Fri 25 Apr 14

PJW Brighton says...

nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse. PJW Brighton
  • Score: 107

11:49am Fri 25 Apr 14

pwlr1966 says...

Re-route straight up the A23 to London
Re-route straight up the A23 to London pwlr1966
  • Score: 42

11:50am Fri 25 Apr 14

Saltdean Resident says...

Lord_Byron wrote:
Saltdean Resident wrote:
Best excuse to cancel it and let the people of Brighton have their city back for the day.
"a decision would be made later today or tomorrow into whether the march should be moved further down the road"..... to somewhere like Hastings... or Moscow?
Maybe to Portsmouth where the organiser comes from.
[quote][p][bold]Lord_Byron[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: Best excuse to cancel it and let the people of Brighton have their city back for the day.[/p][/quote]"a decision would be made later today or tomorrow into whether the march should be moved further down the road"..... to somewhere like Hastings... or Moscow?[/p][/quote]Maybe to Portsmouth where the organiser comes from. Saltdean Resident
  • Score: 50

11:53am Fri 25 Apr 14

nuttyju says...

PJW Brighton wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.
If you do your research these events were actually very peaceful prior to 2009, the people making trouble are the Extreme Leftist groups Unite Against Fascism and Antifa, they are who is causing the trouble why can people not see that. If they were not there the march would pass peacefully. Just leave them alone its 2 hours a year, why is it deemed racist by you people to celebrate our heritage, its almost like you are ashamed to be English, very sad
[quote][p][bold]PJW Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.[/p][/quote]If you do your research these events were actually very peaceful prior to 2009, the people making trouble are the Extreme Leftist groups Unite Against Fascism and Antifa, they are who is causing the trouble why can people not see that. If they were not there the march would pass peacefully. Just leave them alone its 2 hours a year, why is it deemed racist by you people to celebrate our heritage, its almost like you are ashamed to be English, very sad nuttyju
  • Score: -53

11:56am Fri 25 Apr 14

Fight_Back says...

nuttyju wrote:
PJW Brighton wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.
If you do your research these events were actually very peaceful prior to 2009, the people making trouble are the Extreme Leftist groups Unite Against Fascism and Antifa, they are who is causing the trouble why can people not see that. If they were not there the march would pass peacefully. Just leave them alone its 2 hours a year, why is it deemed racist by you people to celebrate our heritage, its almost like you are ashamed to be English, very sad
Prior to 2009 the Scouts and the Guides had a parade. These morons have put paid to that. They are not welcome here.
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PJW Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.[/p][/quote]If you do your research these events were actually very peaceful prior to 2009, the people making trouble are the Extreme Leftist groups Unite Against Fascism and Antifa, they are who is causing the trouble why can people not see that. If they were not there the march would pass peacefully. Just leave them alone its 2 hours a year, why is it deemed racist by you people to celebrate our heritage, its almost like you are ashamed to be English, very sad[/p][/quote]Prior to 2009 the Scouts and the Guides had a parade. These morons have put paid to that. They are not welcome here. Fight_Back
  • Score: 70

11:57am Fri 25 Apr 14

Fight_Back says...

And lets add that these right wing morons thought the Royal Pavilion was a Mosque - they really are that stupid !!!!!!!!!!!
And lets add that these right wing morons thought the Royal Pavilion was a Mosque - they really are that stupid !!!!!!!!!!! Fight_Back
  • Score: 92

11:59am Fri 25 Apr 14

angrymonkey says...

the sad people that think UKIP votes are racist are just wrong in most cases I will vote for them this year as fed up of are Government giving all are money away when we need it here and yes do want the number of people coming into the uk cut but not racist I just want uk people to be able to go out and get jobs where not given to people happy to work for penny's holding down pay rises for others making life harder for all and not putting strain on are heath service that cant cope now.
I have no problems with what race people are or if gay or not people should be able to live how they want but we should be looking after the uk first the Government we have at the moment are not doing this cutting back on everything .
the sad people that think UKIP votes are racist are just wrong in most cases I will vote for them this year as fed up of are Government giving all are money away when we need it here and yes do want the number of people coming into the uk cut but not racist I just want uk people to be able to go out and get jobs where not given to people happy to work for penny's holding down pay rises for others making life harder for all and not putting strain on are heath service that cant cope now. I have no problems with what race people are or if gay or not people should be able to live how they want but we should be looking after the uk first the Government we have at the moment are not doing this cutting back on everything . angrymonkey
  • Score: -28

11:59am Fri 25 Apr 14

PJW Brighton says...

nuttyju wrote:
PJW Brighton wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.
If you do your research these events were actually very peaceful prior to 2009, the people making trouble are the Extreme Leftist groups Unite Against Fascism and Antifa, they are who is causing the trouble why can people not see that. If they were not there the march would pass peacefully. Just leave them alone its 2 hours a year, why is it deemed racist by you people to celebrate our heritage, its almost like you are ashamed to be English, very sad
But there is no celebration of our heritage in this March. Where is the music, art, food, crafts, may-pole, celebration of our thousands of years of different cultures and races coming here from the Romans and Vikings onwards? I have looked for this at this event over the last few years and all I see is spotty louts, drinking mainly German lager and wearing football tops made in China, and singing abusive songs about Ireland. That is nothing to do with celebrating our heritage.
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PJW Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.[/p][/quote]If you do your research these events were actually very peaceful prior to 2009, the people making trouble are the Extreme Leftist groups Unite Against Fascism and Antifa, they are who is causing the trouble why can people not see that. If they were not there the march would pass peacefully. Just leave them alone its 2 hours a year, why is it deemed racist by you people to celebrate our heritage, its almost like you are ashamed to be English, very sad[/p][/quote]But there is no celebration of our heritage in this March. Where is the music, art, food, crafts, may-pole, celebration of our thousands of years of different cultures and races coming here from the Romans and Vikings onwards? I have looked for this at this event over the last few years and all I see is spotty louts, drinking mainly German lager and wearing football tops made in China, and singing abusive songs about Ireland. That is nothing to do with celebrating our heritage. PJW Brighton
  • Score: 83

12:00pm Fri 25 Apr 14

straycat says...

nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Couldn't agree more!
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more! straycat
  • Score: -43

12:00pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Andy R says...

nuttyju wrote:
PJW Brighton wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.
If you do your research these events were actually very peaceful prior to 2009, the people making trouble are the Extreme Leftist groups Unite Against Fascism and Antifa, they are who is causing the trouble why can people not see that. If they were not there the march would pass peacefully. Just leave them alone its 2 hours a year, why is it deemed racist by you people to celebrate our heritage, its almost like you are ashamed to be English, very sad
Do some research yourself. The issue arose when the EDL and assorted other fascists took it over. UAF and Antifa have been around for years so why do you think the march attracted no opposition until a couple of years ago?
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PJW Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.[/p][/quote]If you do your research these events were actually very peaceful prior to 2009, the people making trouble are the Extreme Leftist groups Unite Against Fascism and Antifa, they are who is causing the trouble why can people not see that. If they were not there the march would pass peacefully. Just leave them alone its 2 hours a year, why is it deemed racist by you people to celebrate our heritage, its almost like you are ashamed to be English, very sad[/p][/quote]Do some research yourself. The issue arose when the EDL and assorted other fascists took it over. UAF and Antifa have been around for years so why do you think the march attracted no opposition until a couple of years ago? Andy R
  • Score: 35

12:02pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Andy R says...

Fight_Back wrote:
And lets add that these right wing morons thought the Royal Pavilion was a Mosque - they really are that stupid !!!!!!!!!!!
They're coming to say "Respect-Are culture. Speak English". I wonder if the one with "Britian" tatooed on his neck will make an appearance.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: And lets add that these right wing morons thought the Royal Pavilion was a Mosque - they really are that stupid !!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]They're coming to say "Respect-Are culture. Speak English". I wonder if the one with "Britian" tatooed on his neck will make an appearance. Andy R
  • Score: 50

12:06pm Fri 25 Apr 14

nuttyju says...

straycat wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Couldn't agree more!
Thank you, at last someone that speaks sense, I was beginning to feel very lonely as always when fighting with the Extremist Left in Brighton
[quote][p][bold]straycat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more![/p][/quote]Thank you, at last someone that speaks sense, I was beginning to feel very lonely as always when fighting with the Extremist Left in Brighton nuttyju
  • Score: -50

12:14pm Fri 25 Apr 14

nuttyju says...

OK well I am not Cool with men parading up and down in black leather shorts and make up and bras, I find it unreal that people think it is ok for there kids to see that every year, it is disgusting and I don't agree with it. So why is your dislike more important than mine exactly
OK well I am not Cool with men parading up and down in black leather shorts and make up and bras, I find it unreal that people think it is ok for there kids to see that every year, it is disgusting and I don't agree with it. So why is your dislike more important than mine exactly nuttyju
  • Score: -53

12:15pm Fri 25 Apr 14

rolivan says...

Why not let them March Long Madeira Drive it will cause less traffic problems if any, and they can be easily contained if a problem arises . Any one who really wants to watch them can stand on the Prom by the Volks or watch themlater on TV
Why not let them March Long Madeira Drive it will cause less traffic problems if any, and they can be easily contained if a problem arises . Any one who really wants to watch them can stand on the Prom by the Volks or watch themlater on TV rolivan
  • Score: 15

12:17pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Fight_Back says...

nuttyju wrote:
OK well I am not Cool with men parading up and down in black leather shorts and make up and bras, I find it unreal that people think it is ok for there kids to see that every year, it is disgusting and I don't agree with it. So why is your dislike more important than mine exactly
Pride parade violence level = 0
MfE parade violence level = 10

Admittedly it's not just the right wing morons you're supporting that create the violence, it's also the left wing morons who are equally idiotic, vile and stupid. Neither are welcome here.
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: OK well I am not Cool with men parading up and down in black leather shorts and make up and bras, I find it unreal that people think it is ok for there kids to see that every year, it is disgusting and I don't agree with it. So why is your dislike more important than mine exactly[/p][/quote]Pride parade violence level = 0 MfE parade violence level = 10 Admittedly it's not just the right wing morons you're supporting that create the violence, it's also the left wing morons who are equally idiotic, vile and stupid. Neither are welcome here. Fight_Back
  • Score: 47

12:26pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Saltdean Resident says...

nuttyju wrote:
straycat wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Couldn't agree more!
Thank you, at last someone that speaks sense, I was beginning to feel very lonely as always when fighting with the Extremist Left in Brighton
If by Extremist Left, you mean hard working, home owning, bloke with a young family, with no affiliation to any political party, then count me in.
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]straycat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more![/p][/quote]Thank you, at last someone that speaks sense, I was beginning to feel very lonely as always when fighting with the Extremist Left in Brighton[/p][/quote]If by Extremist Left, you mean hard working, home owning, bloke with a young family, with no affiliation to any political party, then count me in. Saltdean Resident
  • Score: 35

12:28pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Lord_Byron says...

nuttyju wrote:
OK well I am not Cool with men parading up and down in black leather shorts and make up and bras, I find it unreal that people think it is ok for there kids to see that every year, it is disgusting and I don't agree with it. So why is your dislike more important than mine exactly
There are things far worse than men in tights and people who are ok with who they are.

A lot of them can be seen on TV and in hypocritical news papers that push ideas as normal.
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: OK well I am not Cool with men parading up and down in black leather shorts and make up and bras, I find it unreal that people think it is ok for there kids to see that every year, it is disgusting and I don't agree with it. So why is your dislike more important than mine exactly[/p][/quote]There are things far worse than men in tights and people who are ok with who they are. A lot of them can be seen on TV and in hypocritical news papers that push ideas as normal. Lord_Byron
  • Score: 6

12:34pm Fri 25 Apr 14

stoner1690 says...

nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Most sensible post on this story.
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Most sensible post on this story. stoner1690
  • Score: -35

12:45pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Saltdean Resident says...

This is great, have a look on The March for England facebook page and there is a message from someone calling themselves Emily Pankhurst (im guessing nuttyju):

"Emily Pankhurst
Can someone please come and back me up on the Argus website, I am fighting for my life in there full of the Extreme Left, scum that they are !!!

Paranoid!
This is great, have a look on The March for England facebook page and there is a message from someone calling themselves Emily Pankhurst (im guessing nuttyju): "Emily Pankhurst Can someone please come and back me up on the Argus website, I am fighting for my life in there full of the Extreme Left, scum that they are !!! Paranoid! Saltdean Resident
  • Score: 31

12:51pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Shaddow says...

So nuttyju (won't post your real name) has been on the MfE home page on Facebook and has asked for 'back up' ...hence the two people who have since come forward saying she is talking sense!!!

Here is a copy and paste of what was written. 'Can someone please come and back me up on the Argus website, I am fighting for my life in there full of the Extreme Left, scum that they are !!!'

https://www.facebook
.com/pages/March-For
-England/17254023668
2?fref=ts&filter=2

Firstly nuttyju do some homework. MfE was given the benefit of the doubt on the first couple of marches. This proved to be a mistake by Brighton. From those marching under the MfE flag we had racist abuse and homophobic abuse. This then lead into violence.

Every year when MfE comes to visit there is reports of violence from the Saturday evening right through to the Sunday evening.

Why should Brighton residents and visitors to this city put up with the racist and homophobic abuse as well as the violence?

Year after year we are told this is a 'family event'. Well I'm sorry but what family event starts with adults drinking at 10 am (witnessed at the station) and with the organiser having to remind people not to shout out racist or homophobic abuse!? What family event has within its ranks an adult who continually makes the nazi salute (as witnessed on Queens Road and at the station)?

I celebrated St Georges day on St Georges day by going to my local pub ...having a few pints and watching the Morris Dances. We had kids running around and had lots of fun activities for them to do.

In short ...why don't you just celebrate in YOUR OWN HOMETOWN ...as the majority of MfE don't actually live in Brighton ....or why doesn't MfE organise a lovely picnic in one of our lovely parks and have a proper family St Georges day?
So nuttyju (won't post your real name) has been on the MfE home page on Facebook and has asked for 'back up' ...hence the two people who have since come forward saying she is talking sense!!! Here is a copy and paste of what was written. 'Can someone please come and back me up on the Argus website, I am fighting for my life in there full of the Extreme Left, scum that they are !!!' https://www.facebook .com/pages/March-For -England/17254023668 2?fref=ts&filter=2 Firstly nuttyju do some homework. MfE was given the benefit of the doubt on the first couple of marches. This proved to be a mistake by Brighton. From those marching under the MfE flag we had racist abuse and homophobic abuse. This then lead into violence. Every year when MfE comes to visit there is reports of violence from the Saturday evening right through to the Sunday evening. Why should Brighton residents and visitors to this city put up with the racist and homophobic abuse as well as the violence? Year after year we are told this is a 'family event'. Well I'm sorry but what family event starts with adults drinking at 10 am (witnessed at the station) and with the organiser having to remind people not to shout out racist or homophobic abuse!? What family event has within its ranks an adult who continually makes the nazi salute (as witnessed on Queens Road and at the station)? I celebrated St Georges day on St Georges day by going to my local pub ...having a few pints and watching the Morris Dances. We had kids running around and had lots of fun activities for them to do. In short ...why don't you just celebrate in YOUR OWN HOMETOWN ...as the majority of MfE don't actually live in Brighton ....or why doesn't MfE organise a lovely picnic in one of our lovely parks and have a proper family St Georges day? Shaddow
  • Score: 58

12:56pm Fri 25 Apr 14

RickH says...

Fight_Back wrote:
nuttyju wrote: OK well I am not Cool with men parading up and down in black leather shorts and make up and bras, I find it unreal that people think it is ok for there kids to see that every year, it is disgusting and I don't agree with it. So why is your dislike more important than mine exactly
Pride parade violence level = 0 MfE parade violence level = 10 Admittedly it's not just the right wing morons you're supporting that create the violence, it's also the left wing morons who are equally idiotic, vile and stupid. Neither are welcome here.
Spot on - I've attended over a dozen Pride events in Brighton and have yet to witness a single violent incident despite the numbers attending being 1000s times more than any MfE 'event'.

If branding me and others like me who choose to stand against you as 'hard-left' makes you feel better, then so be it. Its a lazy reductionist argument - much like the rest of MfE's views!

Its about time you and your MfE chums realised your nasty, divisive and racist 'politics' just aren't welcome here, along with your violent antics. Get over it and get out of town!
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: OK well I am not Cool with men parading up and down in black leather shorts and make up and bras, I find it unreal that people think it is ok for there kids to see that every year, it is disgusting and I don't agree with it. So why is your dislike more important than mine exactly[/p][/quote]Pride parade violence level = 0 MfE parade violence level = 10 Admittedly it's not just the right wing morons you're supporting that create the violence, it's also the left wing morons who are equally idiotic, vile and stupid. Neither are welcome here.[/p][/quote]Spot on - I've attended over a dozen Pride events in Brighton and have yet to witness a single violent incident despite the numbers attending being 1000s times more than any MfE 'event'. If branding me and others like me who choose to stand against you as 'hard-left' makes you feel better, then so be it. Its a lazy reductionist argument - much like the rest of MfE's views! Its about time you and your MfE chums realised your nasty, divisive and racist 'politics' just aren't welcome here, along with your violent antics. Get over it and get out of town! RickH
  • Score: 42

1:04pm Fri 25 Apr 14

RickH says...

nuttyju wrote:
OK well I am not Cool with men parading up and down in black leather shorts and make up and bras, I find it unreal that people think it is ok for there kids to see that every year, it is disgusting and I don't agree with it. So why is your dislike more important than mine exactly
Maybe because we dont express our dislike by screaming abuse and chucking stuff about in a druken rage? Or maybe because all those men in bras and leather shorts (hopefully matching colours!) dont do the same? Or maybe, just maybe, the views expressed by you and your MfE chums just aren't acceptable in a modern society?
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: OK well I am not Cool with men parading up and down in black leather shorts and make up and bras, I find it unreal that people think it is ok for there kids to see that every year, it is disgusting and I don't agree with it. So why is your dislike more important than mine exactly[/p][/quote]Maybe because we dont express our dislike by screaming abuse and chucking stuff about in a druken rage? Or maybe because all those men in bras and leather shorts (hopefully matching colours!) dont do the same? Or maybe, just maybe, the views expressed by you and your MfE chums just aren't acceptable in a modern society? RickH
  • Score: 36

1:13pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Mark63 says...

Stop them coming - we don't want them here!!!
Stop them coming - we don't want them here!!! Mark63
  • Score: 29

1:15pm Fri 25 Apr 14

nuttyju says...

ha ha love winding you lot up !! You bite so easily makes my day go quicker so thanks !!!! LOL !!!!
ha ha love winding you lot up !! You bite so easily makes my day go quicker so thanks !!!! LOL !!!! nuttyju
  • Score: -37

1:20pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Mark63 says...

left win scum, nutjob?
do your homework - normal people with genuine decent opinions...
Oh sorry its not nutjob, but should be...
left win scum, nutjob? do your homework - normal people with genuine decent opinions... Oh sorry its not nutjob, but should be... Mark63
  • Score: 3

1:35pm Fri 25 Apr 14

mhaiti says...

March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade"

Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it...

Real wholesome family fun

by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust"

Morons...absolute morons
March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons mhaiti
  • Score: 31

1:38pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Fight_Back says...

nuttyju wrote:
ha ha love winding you lot up !! You bite so easily makes my day go quicker so thanks !!!! LOL !!!!
It's strange that as soon as someone is made to look pathetically stupid they claim the whole thing to be a wind-up.
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: ha ha love winding you lot up !! You bite so easily makes my day go quicker so thanks !!!! LOL !!!![/p][/quote]It's strange that as soon as someone is made to look pathetically stupid they claim the whole thing to be a wind-up. Fight_Back
  • Score: 34

1:45pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Alison Smith says...

It's very difficult to justify banning this lot however distasteful their views, if you allow the Smash EDO & the Anti-globalisation marches. Democracy has to work both ways or you end up in Russia.
It's very difficult to justify banning this lot however distasteful their views, if you allow the Smash EDO & the Anti-globalisation marches. Democracy has to work both ways or you end up in Russia. Alison Smith
  • Score: 20

1:50pm Fri 25 Apr 14

tallchris says...

There should be no talk of a ban on MFE marching. I would prefer to see the police scale back their expensive operation and let the MFE people take their chances without their support.

It would be amusing to see the collection of MFE misfits getting kicked out of Brighton with their tails between their legs. In fact it will be amusing, as even with the support of the police, that is exactly what will happen on Sunday. See you all there.
There should be no talk of a ban on MFE marching. I would prefer to see the police scale back their expensive operation and let the MFE people take their chances without their support. It would be amusing to see the collection of MFE misfits getting kicked out of Brighton with their tails between their legs. In fact it will be amusing, as even with the support of the police, that is exactly what will happen on Sunday. See you all there. tallchris
  • Score: 2

1:51pm Fri 25 Apr 14

mhaiti says...

Alison Smith wrote:
It's very difficult to justify banning this lot however distasteful their views, if you allow the Smash EDO & the Anti-globalisation marches. Democracy has to work both ways or you end up in Russia.
they're not banned...there's just a counter march

I don't much agree or disagree with Smash EDO but if i was really opposed I have every right to stand on the street and tell them.

Let them come, but don't let them hide behind the lie that this is a family friendly march purely to celebrate St George's day. Why Brighton? Because they will get opposed and obtain publicity for their horrible views in a hope of finding more support from other likeminded neanderthals....
[quote][p][bold]Alison Smith[/bold] wrote: It's very difficult to justify banning this lot however distasteful their views, if you allow the Smash EDO & the Anti-globalisation marches. Democracy has to work both ways or you end up in Russia.[/p][/quote]they're not banned...there's just a counter march I don't much agree or disagree with Smash EDO but if i was really opposed I have every right to stand on the street and tell them. Let them come, but don't let them hide behind the lie that this is a family friendly march purely to celebrate St George's day. Why Brighton? Because they will get opposed and obtain publicity for their horrible views in a hope of finding more support from other likeminded neanderthals.... mhaiti
  • Score: 11

1:52pm Fri 25 Apr 14

nuttyju says...

Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City nuttyju
  • Score: -28

1:54pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

tallchris wrote:
There should be no talk of a ban on MFE marching. I would prefer to see the police scale back their expensive operation and let the MFE people take their chances without their support.

It would be amusing to see the collection of MFE misfits getting kicked out of Brighton with their tails between their legs. In fact it will be amusing, as even with the support of the police, that is exactly what will happen on Sunday. See you all there.
Why would you find it amusing to see violence on the streets of Brighton? The city allegedly prides itself on its tolerance and openness......the MFE is a celebration of Englishness in an English city, so why anyone would wish that to be forcibly prevented escapes me.
[quote][p][bold]tallchris[/bold] wrote: There should be no talk of a ban on MFE marching. I would prefer to see the police scale back their expensive operation and let the MFE people take their chances without their support. It would be amusing to see the collection of MFE misfits getting kicked out of Brighton with their tails between their legs. In fact it will be amusing, as even with the support of the police, that is exactly what will happen on Sunday. See you all there.[/p][/quote]Why would you find it amusing to see violence on the streets of Brighton? The city allegedly prides itself on its tolerance and openness......the MFE is a celebration of Englishness in an English city, so why anyone would wish that to be forcibly prevented escapes me. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -11

1:55pm Fri 25 Apr 14

nuttyju says...

You sensoring my comments The Argus, ok Im shall have to stop my DD to my Argus subscription ! So much for democracy :)
You sensoring my comments The Argus, ok Im shall have to stop my DD to my Argus subscription ! So much for democracy :) nuttyju
  • Score: -25

1:57pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs- that's a very narrow definition of Englishness that thinks anyone who doesn't agree with them is far-left and has to shout about looking forward to smashing the reds.
This from a loon who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system- is that what they're protesting about?
ZeeGee, ffs- that's a very narrow definition of Englishness that thinks anyone who doesn't agree with them is far-left and has to shout about looking forward to smashing the reds. This from a loon who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system- is that what they're protesting about? Arrggh
  • Score: 5

1:59pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

mhaiti wrote:
March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade"

Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it...

Real wholesome family fun

by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust"

Morons...absolute morons
Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it?

If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city.

I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.
[quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons[/p][/quote]Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -15

2:01pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs- that's a very narrow definition of Englishness that thinks anyone who doesn't agree with them is far-left and has to shout about looking forward to smashing the reds.
This from a loon who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system- is that what they're protesting about?
Who has claimed that sharia is being used in the English legal system?

Quote them!

How many people of a ring-wing disposition will be part of the UAF crowd on Sunday? Count them, and let us know.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: ZeeGee, ffs- that's a very narrow definition of Englishness that thinks anyone who doesn't agree with them is far-left and has to shout about looking forward to smashing the reds. This from a loon who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system- is that what they're protesting about?[/p][/quote]Who has claimed that sharia is being used in the English legal system? Quote them! How many people of a ring-wing disposition will be part of the UAF crowd on Sunday? Count them, and let us know. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -9

2:01pm Fri 25 Apr 14

GJ12345 says...

If people just ignore them let the march go through quietly then the media would have nothing to write about. It's only when the opposition start trouble making that the MfE get the publicity. If we all stop trolling then this event wouldn't even get a mention.
If people just ignore them let the march go through quietly then the media would have nothing to write about. It's only when the opposition start trouble making that the MfE get the publicity. If we all stop trolling then this event wouldn't even get a mention. GJ12345
  • Score: 1

2:03pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

RickH wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
OK well I am not Cool with men parading up and down in black leather shorts and make up and bras, I find it unreal that people think it is ok for there kids to see that every year, it is disgusting and I don't agree with it. So why is your dislike more important than mine exactly
Maybe because we dont express our dislike by screaming abuse and chucking stuff about in a druken rage? Or maybe because all those men in bras and leather shorts (hopefully matching colours!) dont do the same? Or maybe, just maybe, the views expressed by you and your MfE chums just aren't acceptable in a modern society?
So it's not acceptable to love one's country?

What planet are you from?
[quote][p][bold]RickH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: OK well I am not Cool with men parading up and down in black leather shorts and make up and bras, I find it unreal that people think it is ok for there kids to see that every year, it is disgusting and I don't agree with it. So why is your dislike more important than mine exactly[/p][/quote]Maybe because we dont express our dislike by screaming abuse and chucking stuff about in a druken rage? Or maybe because all those men in bras and leather shorts (hopefully matching colours!) dont do the same? Or maybe, just maybe, the views expressed by you and your MfE chums just aren't acceptable in a modern society?[/p][/quote]So it's not acceptable to love one's country? What planet are you from? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -7

2:03pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

How are the marchers going to identify 'reds?' Zeegee you can walk down Queens Rd all you want but if you start behaving as marchers have in previous years you'll get a reaction.
How are the marchers going to identify 'reds?' Zeegee you can walk down Queens Rd all you want but if you start behaving as marchers have in previous years you'll get a reaction. Arrggh
  • Score: 4

2:04pm Fri 25 Apr 14

RickH says...

nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Before you go, maybe you'd like to explain how someone like me isn't a patriot because we dont espouse rascist politics. Does the fact that I don't subscribe to your views make me unpatriotic? If so, how so?
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Before you go, maybe you'd like to explain how someone like me isn't a patriot because we dont espouse rascist politics. Does the fact that I don't subscribe to your views make me unpatriotic? If so, how so? RickH
  • Score: 16

2:05pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

RickH wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
nuttyju wrote: OK well I am not Cool with men parading up and down in black leather shorts and make up and bras, I find it unreal that people think it is ok for there kids to see that every year, it is disgusting and I don't agree with it. So why is your dislike more important than mine exactly
Pride parade violence level = 0 MfE parade violence level = 10 Admittedly it's not just the right wing morons you're supporting that create the violence, it's also the left wing morons who are equally idiotic, vile and stupid. Neither are welcome here.
Spot on - I've attended over a dozen Pride events in Brighton and have yet to witness a single violent incident despite the numbers attending being 1000s times more than any MfE 'event'.

If branding me and others like me who choose to stand against you as 'hard-left' makes you feel better, then so be it. Its a lazy reductionist argument - much like the rest of MfE's views!

Its about time you and your MfE chums realised your nasty, divisive and racist 'politics' just aren't welcome here, along with your violent antics. Get over it and get out of town!
What is racist about loving one's country?

Oh, and there are demonstrator's at Pride events who need police protection from the gays, so don't claim that Pride is whiter-than-white.
[quote][p][bold]RickH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: OK well I am not Cool with men parading up and down in black leather shorts and make up and bras, I find it unreal that people think it is ok for there kids to see that every year, it is disgusting and I don't agree with it. So why is your dislike more important than mine exactly[/p][/quote]Pride parade violence level = 0 MfE parade violence level = 10 Admittedly it's not just the right wing morons you're supporting that create the violence, it's also the left wing morons who are equally idiotic, vile and stupid. Neither are welcome here.[/p][/quote]Spot on - I've attended over a dozen Pride events in Brighton and have yet to witness a single violent incident despite the numbers attending being 1000s times more than any MfE 'event'. If branding me and others like me who choose to stand against you as 'hard-left' makes you feel better, then so be it. Its a lazy reductionist argument - much like the rest of MfE's views! Its about time you and your MfE chums realised your nasty, divisive and racist 'politics' just aren't welcome here, along with your violent antics. Get over it and get out of town![/p][/quote]What is racist about loving one's country? Oh, and there are demonstrator's at Pride events who need police protection from the gays, so don't claim that Pride is whiter-than-white. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -10

2:06pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs- that's a very narrow definition of Englishness that thinks anyone who doesn't agree with them is far-left and has to shout about looking forward to smashing the reds.
This from a loon who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system- is that what they're protesting about?
Who has claimed that sharia is being used in the English legal system?

Quote them!

How many people of a ring-wing disposition will be part of the UAF crowd on Sunday? Count them, and let us know.
You did yesterday on another thread- the one saying the march would get a frosty reception. Short term memory issues? The 'UAF' crowd will only partly be made up of UAF and others from all walks of life.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: ZeeGee, ffs- that's a very narrow definition of Englishness that thinks anyone who doesn't agree with them is far-left and has to shout about looking forward to smashing the reds. This from a loon who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system- is that what they're protesting about?[/p][/quote]Who has claimed that sharia is being used in the English legal system? Quote them! How many people of a ring-wing disposition will be part of the UAF crowd on Sunday? Count them, and let us know.[/p][/quote]You did yesterday on another thread- the one saying the march would get a frosty reception. Short term memory issues? The 'UAF' crowd will only partly be made up of UAF and others from all walks of life. Arrggh
  • Score: 1

2:07pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

RickH wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Before you go, maybe you'd like to explain how someone like me isn't a patriot because we dont espouse rascist politics. Does the fact that I don't subscribe to your views make me unpatriotic? If so, how so?
The MFE marchers are patriotic expressing their patriotism. Wouldn't it seem normal for other patriots to allow them and even encourage them to do so instead of moaning about them and even threatening them?

THAT explains why you aren't considered to be a patriot.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]RickH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Before you go, maybe you'd like to explain how someone like me isn't a patriot because we dont espouse rascist politics. Does the fact that I don't subscribe to your views make me unpatriotic? If so, how so?[/p][/quote]The MFE marchers are patriotic expressing their patriotism. Wouldn't it seem normal for other patriots to allow them and even encourage them to do so instead of moaning about them and even threatening them? THAT explains why you aren't considered to be a patriot. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -6

2:08pm Fri 25 Apr 14

mhaiti says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons
Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.
Do you honestly believe what you write?

If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad.

Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love.

100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons[/p][/quote]Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will... mhaiti
  • Score: 16

2:08pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs- that's a very narrow definition of Englishness that thinks anyone who doesn't agree with them is far-left and has to shout about looking forward to smashing the reds.
This from a loon who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system- is that what they're protesting about?
Who has claimed that sharia is being used in the English legal system?

Quote them!

How many people of a ring-wing disposition will be part of the UAF crowd on Sunday? Count them, and let us know.
You did yesterday on another thread- the one saying the march would get a frosty reception. Short term memory issues? The 'UAF' crowd will only partly be made up of UAF and others from all walks of life.
I said what, exactly? QUOTE ME!

" The 'UAF' crowd will only partly be made up of UAF and others from all walks of life."

And how many will consider themselves to be of a ring-wing disposition? As I said, get back to us on Monday with your findings.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: ZeeGee, ffs- that's a very narrow definition of Englishness that thinks anyone who doesn't agree with them is far-left and has to shout about looking forward to smashing the reds. This from a loon who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system- is that what they're protesting about?[/p][/quote]Who has claimed that sharia is being used in the English legal system? Quote them! How many people of a ring-wing disposition will be part of the UAF crowd on Sunday? Count them, and let us know.[/p][/quote]You did yesterday on another thread- the one saying the march would get a frosty reception. Short term memory issues? The 'UAF' crowd will only partly be made up of UAF and others from all walks of life.[/p][/quote]I said what, exactly? QUOTE ME! " The 'UAF' crowd will only partly be made up of UAF and others from all walks of life." And how many will consider themselves to be of a ring-wing disposition? As I said, get back to us on Monday with your findings. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

2:10pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Shaddow says...

nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly! Shaddow
  • Score: 10

2:10pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons
Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.
Do you honestly believe what you write?

If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad.

Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love.

100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...
Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away?

Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?
[quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons[/p][/quote]Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...[/p][/quote]Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 0

2:12pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers.

Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers. Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

2:14pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
How are the marchers going to identify 'reds?' Zeegee you can walk down Queens Rd all you want but if you start behaving as marchers have in previous years you'll get a reaction.
You mean that carrying an England flag is reason to get an adverse reaction? Why should that be so?
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: How are the marchers going to identify 'reds?' Zeegee you can walk down Queens Rd all you want but if you start behaving as marchers have in previous years you'll get a reaction.[/p][/quote]You mean that carrying an England flag is reason to get an adverse reaction? Why should that be so? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

2:15pm Fri 25 Apr 14

mhaiti says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons
Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.
Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...
Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?
When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning....

if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons[/p][/quote]Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...[/p][/quote]Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?[/p][/quote]When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march... mhaiti
  • Score: 9

2:15pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Zeegee ffs- We had a tedious chat about this yesterday- does it really ring no bells? A quote-You can repeat that bit all you like. I've quoted the Law Society stating that sharia is superior to UK law in UK law courts on certain aspects of wills.
You misunderstood what the Law Society said and couldn't accept it.
You want me to interview everyone on the counter-demo as to their politics?
Idiot.
Zeegee ffs- We had a tedious chat about this yesterday- does it really ring no bells? A quote-You can repeat that bit all you like. I've quoted the Law Society stating that sharia is superior to UK law in UK law courts on certain aspects of wills. You misunderstood what the Law Society said and couldn't accept it. You want me to interview everyone on the counter-demo as to their politics? Idiot. Arrggh
  • Score: 2

2:15pm Fri 25 Apr 14

tallchris says...

All this talk of patriotism is just cant. The MFE goons include Hitler worshippers, paid up members of the BNP, Brtish Movement and six men and a dog who comprise the North West Infidels. I am glad they wear lots of St Georges Cross emblems. It will make it easy to identify them and have a face to face debate.
All this talk of patriotism is just cant. The MFE goons include Hitler worshippers, paid up members of the BNP, Brtish Movement and six men and a dog who comprise the North West Infidels. I am glad they wear lots of St Georges Cross emblems. It will make it easy to identify them and have a face to face debate. tallchris
  • Score: 10

2:16pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
So nuttyju (won't post your real name) has been on the MfE home page on Facebook and has asked for 'back up' ...hence the two people who have since come forward saying she is talking sense!!!

Here is a copy and paste of what was written. 'Can someone please come and back me up on the Argus website, I am fighting for my life in there full of the Extreme Left, scum that they are !!!'

https://www.facebook

.com/pages/March-For

-England/17254023668

2?fref=ts&filter
=2

Firstly nuttyju do some homework. MfE was given the benefit of the doubt on the first couple of marches. This proved to be a mistake by Brighton. From those marching under the MfE flag we had racist abuse and homophobic abuse. This then lead into violence.

Every year when MfE comes to visit there is reports of violence from the Saturday evening right through to the Sunday evening.

Why should Brighton residents and visitors to this city put up with the racist and homophobic abuse as well as the violence?

Year after year we are told this is a 'family event'. Well I'm sorry but what family event starts with adults drinking at 10 am (witnessed at the station) and with the organiser having to remind people not to shout out racist or homophobic abuse!? What family event has within its ranks an adult who continually makes the nazi salute (as witnessed on Queens Road and at the station)?

I celebrated St Georges day on St Georges day by going to my local pub ...having a few pints and watching the Morris Dances. We had kids running around and had lots of fun activities for them to do.

In short ...why don't you just celebrate in YOUR OWN HOMETOWN ...as the majority of MfE don't actually live in Brighton ....or why doesn't MfE organise a lovely picnic in one of our lovely parks and have a proper family St Georges day?
So it's OK for you to celebrate St George's Day in your chosen way, but not for others?

The stench of double-standards is appalling.
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: So nuttyju (won't post your real name) has been on the MfE home page on Facebook and has asked for 'back up' ...hence the two people who have since come forward saying she is talking sense!!! Here is a copy and paste of what was written. 'Can someone please come and back me up on the Argus website, I am fighting for my life in there full of the Extreme Left, scum that they are !!!' https://www.facebook .com/pages/March-For -England/17254023668 2?fref=ts&filter =2 Firstly nuttyju do some homework. MfE was given the benefit of the doubt on the first couple of marches. This proved to be a mistake by Brighton. From those marching under the MfE flag we had racist abuse and homophobic abuse. This then lead into violence. Every year when MfE comes to visit there is reports of violence from the Saturday evening right through to the Sunday evening. Why should Brighton residents and visitors to this city put up with the racist and homophobic abuse as well as the violence? Year after year we are told this is a 'family event'. Well I'm sorry but what family event starts with adults drinking at 10 am (witnessed at the station) and with the organiser having to remind people not to shout out racist or homophobic abuse!? What family event has within its ranks an adult who continually makes the nazi salute (as witnessed on Queens Road and at the station)? I celebrated St Georges day on St Georges day by going to my local pub ...having a few pints and watching the Morris Dances. We had kids running around and had lots of fun activities for them to do. In short ...why don't you just celebrate in YOUR OWN HOMETOWN ...as the majority of MfE don't actually live in Brighton ....or why doesn't MfE organise a lovely picnic in one of our lovely parks and have a proper family St Georges day?[/p][/quote]So it's OK for you to celebrate St George's Day in your chosen way, but not for others? The stench of double-standards is appalling. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -8

2:18pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
How are the marchers going to identify 'reds?' Zeegee you can walk down Queens Rd all you want but if you start behaving as marchers have in previous years you'll get a reaction.
You mean that carrying an England flag is reason to get an adverse reaction? Why should that be so?
Yes that's right I could only possibly have been referring to carrying a flag.
In previous years I've witnessed the police turning a blind eye to racist abuse directed at tourists- that's what I was referring to. If you wander into any city challenging the locals to a fight the only way you will avoid one is if you're accompanied by four times as many police as marchers.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: How are the marchers going to identify 'reds?' Zeegee you can walk down Queens Rd all you want but if you start behaving as marchers have in previous years you'll get a reaction.[/p][/quote]You mean that carrying an England flag is reason to get an adverse reaction? Why should that be so?[/p][/quote]Yes that's right I could only possibly have been referring to carrying a flag. In previous years I've witnessed the police turning a blind eye to racist abuse directed at tourists- that's what I was referring to. If you wander into any city challenging the locals to a fight the only way you will avoid one is if you're accompanied by four times as many police as marchers. Arrggh
  • Score: 0

2:19pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- We had a tedious chat about this yesterday- does it really ring no bells? A quote-You can repeat that bit all you like. I've quoted the Law Society stating that sharia is superior to UK law in UK law courts on certain aspects of wills.
You misunderstood what the Law Society said and couldn't accept it.
You want me to interview everyone on the counter-demo as to their politics?
Idiot.
I stated that at least one aspect of sharia law (regarding heirship) is seen as superior to English law. The Law Society told you that, yet you seemed to be unwilling to believe it.

That isn't a case of sharia being incorporated into English law, so your claim that it was was incorrect.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- We had a tedious chat about this yesterday- does it really ring no bells? A quote-You can repeat that bit all you like. I've quoted the Law Society stating that sharia is superior to UK law in UK law courts on certain aspects of wills. You misunderstood what the Law Society said and couldn't accept it. You want me to interview everyone on the counter-demo as to their politics? Idiot.[/p][/quote]I stated that at least one aspect of sharia law (regarding heirship) is seen as superior to English law. The Law Society told you that, yet you seemed to be unwilling to believe it. That isn't a case of sharia being incorporated into English law, so your claim that it was was incorrect. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -4

2:20pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- We had a tedious chat about this yesterday- does it really ring no bells? A quote-You can repeat that bit all you like. I've quoted the Law Society stating that sharia is superior to UK law in UK law courts on certain aspects of wills.
You misunderstood what the Law Society said and couldn't accept it.
You want me to interview everyone on the counter-demo as to their politics?
Idiot.
I stated that at least one aspect of sharia law (regarding heirship) is seen as superior to English law. The Law Society told you that, yet you seemed to be unwilling to believe it.

That isn't a case of sharia being incorporated into English law, so your claim that it was was incorrect.

HTH
I never claimed it was- look at what you typed less than twenty four hours ago on the other thread.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- We had a tedious chat about this yesterday- does it really ring no bells? A quote-You can repeat that bit all you like. I've quoted the Law Society stating that sharia is superior to UK law in UK law courts on certain aspects of wills. You misunderstood what the Law Society said and couldn't accept it. You want me to interview everyone on the counter-demo as to their politics? Idiot.[/p][/quote]I stated that at least one aspect of sharia law (regarding heirship) is seen as superior to English law. The Law Society told you that, yet you seemed to be unwilling to believe it. That isn't a case of sharia being incorporated into English law, so your claim that it was was incorrect. HTH[/p][/quote]I never claimed it was- look at what you typed less than twenty four hours ago on the other thread. Arrggh
  • Score: 3

2:21pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons
Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.
Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...
Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?
When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning....

if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...
"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque"

Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building?

"and get smashed at 10 in the morning...."

Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right?

Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.
[quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons[/p][/quote]Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...[/p][/quote]Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?[/p][/quote]When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...[/p][/quote]"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque" Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building? "and get smashed at 10 in the morning...." Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right? Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -9

2:23pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
How are the marchers going to identify 'reds?' Zeegee you can walk down Queens Rd all you want but if you start behaving as marchers have in previous years you'll get a reaction.
You mean that carrying an England flag is reason to get an adverse reaction? Why should that be so?
Yes that's right I could only possibly have been referring to carrying a flag.
In previous years I've witnessed the police turning a blind eye to racist abuse directed at tourists- that's what I was referring to. If you wander into any city challenging the locals to a fight the only way you will avoid one is if you're accompanied by four times as many police as marchers.
Did I say that I'd be challenging anyone? Which bit of 'walking proudly' indicated that?
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: How are the marchers going to identify 'reds?' Zeegee you can walk down Queens Rd all you want but if you start behaving as marchers have in previous years you'll get a reaction.[/p][/quote]You mean that carrying an England flag is reason to get an adverse reaction? Why should that be so?[/p][/quote]Yes that's right I could only possibly have been referring to carrying a flag. In previous years I've witnessed the police turning a blind eye to racist abuse directed at tourists- that's what I was referring to. If you wander into any city challenging the locals to a fight the only way you will avoid one is if you're accompanied by four times as many police as marchers.[/p][/quote]Did I say that I'd be challenging anyone? Which bit of 'walking proudly' indicated that? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

2:25pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh stated " who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system"

I asked him to quote who had made that ridiculous claim. He was unable to do so, because no-one had.

So his comment was based on ignorance and bigotry.

HTH.
Arrggh stated " who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system" I asked him to quote who had made that ridiculous claim. He was unable to do so, because no-one had. So his comment was based on ignorance and bigotry. HTH. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -4

2:26pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
How are the marchers going to identify 'reds?' Zeegee you can walk down Queens Rd all you want but if you start behaving as marchers have in previous years you'll get a reaction.
You mean that carrying an England flag is reason to get an adverse reaction? Why should that be so?
Yes that's right I could only possibly have been referring to carrying a flag.
In previous years I've witnessed the police turning a blind eye to racist abuse directed at tourists- that's what I was referring to. If you wander into any city challenging the locals to a fight the only way you will avoid one is if you're accompanied by four times as many police as marchers.
Did I say that I'd be challenging anyone? Which bit of 'walking proudly' indicated that?
I said 'behaving as marchers have done in previous years'- having trouble with fairly basic English again.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: How are the marchers going to identify 'reds?' Zeegee you can walk down Queens Rd all you want but if you start behaving as marchers have in previous years you'll get a reaction.[/p][/quote]You mean that carrying an England flag is reason to get an adverse reaction? Why should that be so?[/p][/quote]Yes that's right I could only possibly have been referring to carrying a flag. In previous years I've witnessed the police turning a blind eye to racist abuse directed at tourists- that's what I was referring to. If you wander into any city challenging the locals to a fight the only way you will avoid one is if you're accompanied by four times as many police as marchers.[/p][/quote]Did I say that I'd be challenging anyone? Which bit of 'walking proudly' indicated that?[/p][/quote]I said 'behaving as marchers have done in previous years'- having trouble with fairly basic English again. Arrggh
  • Score: 4

2:27pm Fri 25 Apr 14

tallchris says...

If these goons oppose Islam so much why do they take on bits of Islamic vocabulary? You have the 6 men and a dog calling them selves Infidels, fat goon Jeff Marsh issuing Fatwas ( I kid thee not) against anarchists. I bet they buy Asian Babes in the newsagents and hide the magazine from their long suffering wives.
If these goons oppose Islam so much why do they take on bits of Islamic vocabulary? You have the 6 men and a dog calling them selves Infidels, fat goon Jeff Marsh issuing Fatwas ( I kid thee not) against anarchists. I bet they buy Asian Babes in the newsagents and hide the magazine from their long suffering wives. tallchris
  • Score: 3

2:28pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh stated " who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system"

I asked him to quote who had made that ridiculous claim. He was unable to do so, because no-one had.

So his comment was based on ignorance and bigotry.

HTH.
Is it so difficult to look up your own words on yesterdays thread?
Yet again far right loon accuses opposition of ignorance and bigotry.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: Arrggh stated " who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system" I asked him to quote who had made that ridiculous claim. He was unable to do so, because no-one had. So his comment was based on ignorance and bigotry. HTH.[/p][/quote]Is it so difficult to look up your own words on yesterdays thread? Yet again far right loon accuses opposition of ignorance and bigotry. Arrggh
  • Score: 2

2:29pm Fri 25 Apr 14

mhaiti says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons
Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.
Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...
Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?
When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...
"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque" Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building? "and get smashed at 10 in the morning...." Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right? Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.
So out of all that you picked on the two most innocuous two elements, nothing about the chants or homophobia?

Not disputing those?

P.s. FYI - The pavilion owes it's look to oriental origins (not to resemble a mosque).
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons[/p][/quote]Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...[/p][/quote]Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?[/p][/quote]When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...[/p][/quote]"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque" Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building? "and get smashed at 10 in the morning...." Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right? Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.[/p][/quote]So out of all that you picked on the two most innocuous two elements, nothing about the chants or homophobia? Not disputing those? P.s. FYI - The pavilion owes it's look to oriental origins (not to resemble a mosque). mhaiti
  • Score: 6

2:30pm Fri 25 Apr 14

nuttyju says...

Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
No I don't mind at all !! Because there is also a police bill for Pride and for the London to Brighton bike ride and all the other socially acceptable events that are held in Brighton. You cannot have it all your own way !! With regards to arrests made I think you will find that mostly the arrest are of the UAF / Antifa
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]No I don't mind at all !! Because there is also a police bill for Pride and for the London to Brighton bike ride and all the other socially acceptable events that are held in Brighton. You cannot have it all your own way !! With regards to arrests made I think you will find that mostly the arrest are of the UAF / Antifa nuttyju
  • Score: -8

2:33pm Fri 25 Apr 14

tallchris says...

Respect to all the Antifa and unaligned who will turn out on Sunday. You continue a fightback against fascism that has a proud history in Brighton.
Respect to all the Antifa and unaligned who will turn out on Sunday. You continue a fightback against fascism that has a proud history in Brighton. tallchris
  • Score: 6

2:33pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh stated " who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system"

I asked him to quote who had made that ridiculous claim. He was unable to do so, because no-one had.

So his comment was based on ignorance and bigotry.

HTH.
Is it so difficult to look up your own words on yesterdays thread?
Yet again far right loon accuses opposition of ignorance and bigotry.
Here's the other thread

http://www.theargus.
co.uk/news/11167337.
March_for_England_to
ld_to_expect__frosty
_reception_/?action=
success#comments

Quote me stating that sharia has been incorporated into English law....



....if you can.

Otherwise, accept that you lied when you claimed that I had.

It's your choice.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: Arrggh stated " who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system" I asked him to quote who had made that ridiculous claim. He was unable to do so, because no-one had. So his comment was based on ignorance and bigotry. HTH.[/p][/quote]Is it so difficult to look up your own words on yesterdays thread? Yet again far right loon accuses opposition of ignorance and bigotry.[/p][/quote]Here's the other thread http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11167337. March_for_England_to ld_to_expect__frosty _reception_/?action= success#comments Quote me stating that sharia has been incorporated into English law.... ....if you can. Otherwise, accept that you lied when you claimed that I had. It's your choice. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

2:34pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Zeegee ffs - posted by you at 6.48 yesterday- 'I posted evidence that sharia law is already operating in this country.
It's on the other thread.
Zeegee ffs - posted by you at 6.48 yesterday- 'I posted evidence that sharia law is already operating in this country. It's on the other thread. Arrggh
  • Score: 4

2:35pm Fri 25 Apr 14

RickH says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
RickH wrote:
nuttyju wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Before you go, maybe you'd like to explain how someone like me isn't a patriot because we dont espouse rascist politics. Does the fact that I don't subscribe to your views make me unpatriotic? If so, how so?
The MFE marchers are patriotic expressing their patriotism. Wouldn't it seem normal for other patriots to allow them and even encourage them to do so instead of moaning about them and even threatening them? THAT explains why you aren't considered to be a patriot. HTH
Maybe you need to go look up the defintion of 'tautology' before tapping away on the keyboard any further! I have no issue with those who express patriotism but in non-violent and non-discriminatory ways; unlike the vast majority of MfE, BNP, EDL etc.

Just how is shouting racist and homophobic abuse patriotic? Just how is resorting to violence at the drop of a hat patriotic?

You assume that because I oppose racism that, somehow, makes me unpatriotic. Again, lazy reductionist arguments based on assumption and not knowing who and what I am.

Maybe you'd like to explain the difference between nationalism and patriotism - I'd be interested to hear you views.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RickH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Before you go, maybe you'd like to explain how someone like me isn't a patriot because we dont espouse rascist politics. Does the fact that I don't subscribe to your views make me unpatriotic? If so, how so?[/p][/quote]The MFE marchers are patriotic expressing their patriotism. Wouldn't it seem normal for other patriots to allow them and even encourage them to do so instead of moaning about them and even threatening them? THAT explains why you aren't considered to be a patriot. HTH[/p][/quote]Maybe you need to go look up the defintion of 'tautology' before tapping away on the keyboard any further! I have no issue with those who express patriotism but in non-violent and non-discriminatory ways; unlike the vast majority of MfE, BNP, EDL etc. Just how is shouting racist and homophobic abuse patriotic? Just how is resorting to violence at the drop of a hat patriotic? You assume that because I oppose racism that, somehow, makes me unpatriotic. Again, lazy reductionist arguments based on assumption and not knowing who and what I am. Maybe you'd like to explain the difference between nationalism and patriotism - I'd be interested to hear you views. RickH
  • Score: 7

2:37pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

RickH wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
RickH wrote:
nuttyju wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Before you go, maybe you'd like to explain how someone like me isn't a patriot because we dont espouse rascist politics. Does the fact that I don't subscribe to your views make me unpatriotic? If so, how so?
The MFE marchers are patriotic expressing their patriotism. Wouldn't it seem normal for other patriots to allow them and even encourage them to do so instead of moaning about them and even threatening them? THAT explains why you aren't considered to be a patriot. HTH
Maybe you need to go look up the defintion of 'tautology' before tapping away on the keyboard any further! I have no issue with those who express patriotism but in non-violent and non-discriminatory ways; unlike the vast majority of MfE, BNP, EDL etc.

Just how is shouting racist and homophobic abuse patriotic? Just how is resorting to violence at the drop of a hat patriotic?

You assume that because I oppose racism that, somehow, makes me unpatriotic. Again, lazy reductionist arguments based on assumption and not knowing who and what I am.

Maybe you'd like to explain the difference between nationalism and patriotism - I'd be interested to hear you views.
So because someone calls themselves a patriot, they cannot have views on homosexuality?

Can you explain why not?
[quote][p][bold]RickH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RickH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Before you go, maybe you'd like to explain how someone like me isn't a patriot because we dont espouse rascist politics. Does the fact that I don't subscribe to your views make me unpatriotic? If so, how so?[/p][/quote]The MFE marchers are patriotic expressing their patriotism. Wouldn't it seem normal for other patriots to allow them and even encourage them to do so instead of moaning about them and even threatening them? THAT explains why you aren't considered to be a patriot. HTH[/p][/quote]Maybe you need to go look up the defintion of 'tautology' before tapping away on the keyboard any further! I have no issue with those who express patriotism but in non-violent and non-discriminatory ways; unlike the vast majority of MfE, BNP, EDL etc. Just how is shouting racist and homophobic abuse patriotic? Just how is resorting to violence at the drop of a hat patriotic? You assume that because I oppose racism that, somehow, makes me unpatriotic. Again, lazy reductionist arguments based on assumption and not knowing who and what I am. Maybe you'd like to explain the difference between nationalism and patriotism - I'd be interested to hear you views.[/p][/quote]So because someone calls themselves a patriot, they cannot have views on homosexuality? Can you explain why not? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -8

2:38pm Fri 25 Apr 14

nuttyju says...

tallchris wrote:
Respect to all the Antifa and unaligned who will turn out on Sunday. You continue a fightback against fascism that has a proud history in Brighton.
LOL !! Mind your backs though eh !!! Because while you are throwing the contents of your unwashed bladders at the Patriots there may be someone in your crowd throwing the contents of there bladder at you !!!! Saving it all up for you scummers
[quote][p][bold]tallchris[/bold] wrote: Respect to all the Antifa and unaligned who will turn out on Sunday. You continue a fightback against fascism that has a proud history in Brighton.[/p][/quote]LOL !! Mind your backs though eh !!! Because while you are throwing the contents of your unwashed bladders at the Patriots there may be someone in your crowd throwing the contents of there bladder at you !!!! Saving it all up for you scummers nuttyju
  • Score: -12

2:39pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs - posted by you at 6.48 yesterday- 'I posted evidence that sharia law is already operating in this country.
It's on the other thread.
And which bit of that sentence states that sharia has been incorporated into English law?
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs - posted by you at 6.48 yesterday- 'I posted evidence that sharia law is already operating in this country. It's on the other thread.[/p][/quote]And which bit of that sentence states that sharia has been incorporated into English law? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -5

2:41pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons
Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.
Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...
Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?
When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...
"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque" Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building? "and get smashed at 10 in the morning...." Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right? Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.
So out of all that you picked on the two most innocuous two elements, nothing about the chants or homophobia?

Not disputing those?

P.s. FYI - The pavilion owes it's look to oriental origins (not to resemble a mosque).
So now you dictate what I reply to?

You sound like a Nazi......funny, that.

FYI I shall write my posts, not you.
[quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons[/p][/quote]Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...[/p][/quote]Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?[/p][/quote]When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...[/p][/quote]"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque" Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building? "and get smashed at 10 in the morning...." Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right? Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.[/p][/quote]So out of all that you picked on the two most innocuous two elements, nothing about the chants or homophobia? Not disputing those? P.s. FYI - The pavilion owes it's look to oriental origins (not to resemble a mosque).[/p][/quote]So now you dictate what I reply to? You sound like a Nazi......funny, that. FYI I shall write my posts, not you. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -7

2:42pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs - posted by you at 6.48 yesterday- 'I posted evidence that sharia law is already operating in this country.
It's on the other thread.
And which bit of that sentence states that sharia has been incorporated into English law?
another quote- It means that the sharia position on gender discrimination will be upheld IN BRITISH COURTS, despite UK law holding females to be equal to males.
A fundamental misunderstanding of the current legal position which you stuck to through several replies.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs - posted by you at 6.48 yesterday- 'I posted evidence that sharia law is already operating in this country. It's on the other thread.[/p][/quote]And which bit of that sentence states that sharia has been incorporated into English law?[/p][/quote]another quote- It means that the sharia position on gender discrimination will be upheld IN BRITISH COURTS, despite UK law holding females to be equal to males. A fundamental misunderstanding of the current legal position which you stuck to through several replies. Arrggh
  • Score: 2

2:45pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs - posted by you at 6.48 yesterday- 'I posted evidence that sharia law is already operating in this country.
It's on the other thread.
And which bit of that sentence states that sharia has been incorporated into English law?
another quote- It means that the sharia position on gender discrimination will be upheld IN BRITISH COURTS, despite UK law holding females to be equal to males.
A fundamental misunderstanding of the current legal position which you stuck to through several replies.
So I stated that in English law, the two genders are equal. Can you now explain how sharia has been 'incorporated' into English law if English law still holds them equal?

*opens popcorn*
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs - posted by you at 6.48 yesterday- 'I posted evidence that sharia law is already operating in this country. It's on the other thread.[/p][/quote]And which bit of that sentence states that sharia has been incorporated into English law?[/p][/quote]another quote- It means that the sharia position on gender discrimination will be upheld IN BRITISH COURTS, despite UK law holding females to be equal to males. A fundamental misunderstanding of the current legal position which you stuck to through several replies.[/p][/quote]So I stated that in English law, the two genders are equal. Can you now explain how sharia has been 'incorporated' into English law if English law still holds them equal? *opens popcorn* ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

2:47pm Fri 25 Apr 14

mhaiti says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons
Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.
Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...
Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?
When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...
"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque" Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building? "and get smashed at 10 in the morning...." Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right? Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.
So out of all that you picked on the two most innocuous two elements, nothing about the chants or homophobia? Not disputing those? P.s. FYI - The pavilion owes it's look to oriental origins (not to resemble a mosque).
So now you dictate what I reply to? You sound like a Nazi......funny, that. FYI I shall write my posts, not you.
I know you write your posts, you really do. I would need to go through some kind of massive head trauma to enable me to put such idiocy into words.

No I don't dictate what you reply to...I just challenge you on your response. It's called debate...

I sound like a nazi? That's my favourite yet....good one
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons[/p][/quote]Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...[/p][/quote]Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?[/p][/quote]When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...[/p][/quote]"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque" Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building? "and get smashed at 10 in the morning...." Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right? Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.[/p][/quote]So out of all that you picked on the two most innocuous two elements, nothing about the chants or homophobia? Not disputing those? P.s. FYI - The pavilion owes it's look to oriental origins (not to resemble a mosque).[/p][/quote]So now you dictate what I reply to? You sound like a Nazi......funny, that. FYI I shall write my posts, not you.[/p][/quote]I know you write your posts, you really do. I would need to go through some kind of massive head trauma to enable me to put such idiocy into words. No I don't dictate what you reply to...I just challenge you on your response. It's called debate... I sound like a nazi? That's my favourite yet....good one mhaiti
  • Score: 4

2:48pm Fri 25 Apr 14

JHunty says...

mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons
Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.
Do you honestly believe what you write?

If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad.

Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love.

100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...
"We have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand"

Yeah we are so tolerant that we throw rocks and bricks at anyone who has a different opinion to ourselves. I really don't think you actually read your post through.

The way the UAF are using violence to try and prevent people from marching through Brighton is shameful and those who support their actions clearly understand nothing about how a democracy works.

There are far better ways of showing you disagree with someone. It is precisely because the far left have tried to prevent any sort of discussion about issues such as immigration taking place through violence that the door has been opened for right wing extremists.

I am left wing and always will be but I recognise that immigration has bought with it issues that should be openly discussed and those who wish to discuss those issues should not be automatically shouted down as fascists.

I was not born into a country that now has some 4000 botched cases of FGM dealt with in London a year and no successful prosecutions for child abuse. I was not born into a country where state funded schools refused to teach evolution because of their religious beliefs and take it upon themselves to redact exam questions because they mention evolution. Nor was I born into a country that operates a legal system but also operates a system of tribunals at which religious law, sometimes islamic but also jewish, seems to take precedence over common law. The country I was born in has been changed in a way I disagree with and in a way I think that makes it a worse place to live in and this has been done through mass immigration, a policy suggested by the Treasury as a way of dealing with an ageing population but that was opposed by an overwhelming majority in every opinion poll I have ever seen on the issue.

As a left winger I have a belief in science. I believe it is superior to religion in helping us understand the world. I belief it is a positive force in helping us move society forward. In my opinion because cultural relativism has been allowed to flourish it is arguable that my country has regressed not progressed over the last 20 years or so and beliefs that would have been scorned by left wingers 20 years ago, such as creationism, are now, because of cultural relativism, put on the same basis as scientific theories such as evolution.

If you add to that the obvious impact on wages that allowing millions of low skilled immigrants into a country has on the working population of that country it beggars belief that the left in this country won't even acknowledge that there are issues to be discussed surrounding immigration and how it has impacted this country and its population. If the government had put in place the infrastructure to deal with this mass immigration, such as building more schools, hospitals and houses, perhaps the effects would not have been so dramatic. But they miscalculated in believing the Treasury's analysis that only young healthy immigrants would come to this country and they would leave after paying loads of taxes to go home.

Instead loads of immigrants came, stayed and bought their families over and because of this the benefits of that mass immigration have been far less than the Treasury had anticipated.
[quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons[/p][/quote]Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...[/p][/quote]"We have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand" Yeah we are so tolerant that we throw rocks and bricks at anyone who has a different opinion to ourselves. I really don't think you actually read your post through. The way the UAF are using violence to try and prevent people from marching through Brighton is shameful and those who support their actions clearly understand nothing about how a democracy works. There are far better ways of showing you disagree with someone. It is precisely because the far left have tried to prevent any sort of discussion about issues such as immigration taking place through violence that the door has been opened for right wing extremists. I am left wing and always will be but I recognise that immigration has bought with it issues that should be openly discussed and those who wish to discuss those issues should not be automatically shouted down as fascists. I was not born into a country that now has some 4000 botched cases of FGM dealt with in London a year and no successful prosecutions for child abuse. I was not born into a country where state funded schools refused to teach evolution because of their religious beliefs and take it upon themselves to redact exam questions because they mention evolution. Nor was I born into a country that operates a legal system but also operates a system of tribunals at which religious law, sometimes islamic but also jewish, seems to take precedence over common law. The country I was born in has been changed in a way I disagree with and in a way I think that makes it a worse place to live in and this has been done through mass immigration, a policy suggested by the Treasury as a way of dealing with an ageing population but that was opposed by an overwhelming majority in every opinion poll I have ever seen on the issue. As a left winger I have a belief in science. I believe it is superior to religion in helping us understand the world. I belief it is a positive force in helping us move society forward. In my opinion because cultural relativism has been allowed to flourish it is arguable that my country has regressed not progressed over the last 20 years or so and beliefs that would have been scorned by left wingers 20 years ago, such as creationism, are now, because of cultural relativism, put on the same basis as scientific theories such as evolution. If you add to that the obvious impact on wages that allowing millions of low skilled immigrants into a country has on the working population of that country it beggars belief that the left in this country won't even acknowledge that there are issues to be discussed surrounding immigration and how it has impacted this country and its population. If the government had put in place the infrastructure to deal with this mass immigration, such as building more schools, hospitals and houses, perhaps the effects would not have been so dramatic. But they miscalculated in believing the Treasury's analysis that only young healthy immigrants would come to this country and they would leave after paying loads of taxes to go home. Instead loads of immigrants came, stayed and bought their families over and because of this the benefits of that mass immigration have been far less than the Treasury had anticipated. JHunty
  • Score: 2

2:48pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons
Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.
Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...
Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?
When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...
"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque" Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building? "and get smashed at 10 in the morning...." Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right? Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.
So out of all that you picked on the two most innocuous two elements, nothing about the chants or homophobia? Not disputing those? P.s. FYI - The pavilion owes it's look to oriental origins (not to resemble a mosque).
So now you dictate what I reply to? You sound like a Nazi......funny, that. FYI I shall write my posts, not you.
I know you write your posts, you really do. I would need to go through some kind of massive head trauma to enable me to put such idiocy into words.

No I don't dictate what you reply to...I just challenge you on your response. It's called debate...

I sound like a nazi? That's my favourite yet....good one
You pointed out that I hadn't responded to every point you had made.
[quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons[/p][/quote]Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...[/p][/quote]Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?[/p][/quote]When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...[/p][/quote]"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque" Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building? "and get smashed at 10 in the morning...." Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right? Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.[/p][/quote]So out of all that you picked on the two most innocuous two elements, nothing about the chants or homophobia? Not disputing those? P.s. FYI - The pavilion owes it's look to oriental origins (not to resemble a mosque).[/p][/quote]So now you dictate what I reply to? You sound like a Nazi......funny, that. FYI I shall write my posts, not you.[/p][/quote]I know you write your posts, you really do. I would need to go through some kind of massive head trauma to enable me to put such idiocy into words. No I don't dictate what you reply to...I just challenge you on your response. It's called debate... I sound like a nazi? That's my favourite yet....good one[/p][/quote]You pointed out that I hadn't responded to every point you had made. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

2:50pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs - posted by you at 6.48 yesterday- 'I posted evidence that sharia law is already operating in this country.
It's on the other thread.
And which bit of that sentence states that sharia has been incorporated into English law?
another quote- It means that the sharia position on gender discrimination will be upheld IN BRITISH COURTS, despite UK law holding females to be equal to males.
A fundamental misunderstanding of the current legal position which you stuck to through several replies.
So I stated that in English law, the two genders are equal. Can you now explain how sharia has been 'incorporated' into English law if English law still holds them equal?

*opens popcorn*
I never claimed it has- you did. It's not my fault if you can't remember as far back as yesterday.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs - posted by you at 6.48 yesterday- 'I posted evidence that sharia law is already operating in this country. It's on the other thread.[/p][/quote]And which bit of that sentence states that sharia has been incorporated into English law?[/p][/quote]another quote- It means that the sharia position on gender discrimination will be upheld IN BRITISH COURTS, despite UK law holding females to be equal to males. A fundamental misunderstanding of the current legal position which you stuck to through several replies.[/p][/quote]So I stated that in English law, the two genders are equal. Can you now explain how sharia has been 'incorporated' into English law if English law still holds them equal? *opens popcorn*[/p][/quote]I never claimed it has- you did. It's not my fault if you can't remember as far back as yesterday. Arrggh
  • Score: 3

2:52pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Saltdean Resident says...

My dad spent most of his life in the Royal Navy, he spent 6 years of that fighting facism, he is a true patriot and he would be turning in his grave if he knew how the freedom he fought for was being used by these knuckleheads. Loved his country and all it's people's, hated small minded ness of all extremes. Have fun shouting at each other but remember the ones no longer here that have their lives for your freedom, it hasn't come cheap so use it wisely.
My dad spent most of his life in the Royal Navy, he spent 6 years of that fighting facism, he is a true patriot and he would be turning in his grave if he knew how the freedom he fought for was being used by these knuckleheads. Loved his country and all it's people's, hated small minded ness of all extremes. Have fun shouting at each other but remember the ones no longer here that have their lives for your freedom, it hasn't come cheap so use it wisely. Saltdean Resident
  • Score: 13

2:52pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

zeegee ffs- another quote from you-The Law Society clearly stated that the sharia law of another country would be superior to that of the UK in certain areas in UK courts. That means that another legal system would be recognised in a UK court.
You'll find it on the other thread.
zeegee ffs- another quote from you-The Law Society clearly stated that the sharia law of another country would be superior to that of the UK in certain areas in UK courts. That means that another legal system would be recognised in a UK court. You'll find it on the other thread. Arrggh
  • Score: 4

2:56pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

The poster called Arrgh described me as someone "who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system"

He has failed to produce a quote supporting that accusation. I have stated that sharia is seen as being superior to English law in English courts as far as heirness goes, and provided the quote from the Law Society proving that. Being superior implies that the two systems are totally separate, which they are, so sharia hasn't become 'part' of English law. If it had, then our gender and sexual orientation equality laws would not exist.

I don't mind being proven incorrect, but I do not accept when liars make false claims about what I am alleged to have said.

HTH
The poster called Arrgh described me as someone "who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system" He has failed to produce a quote supporting that accusation. I have stated that sharia is seen as being superior to English law in English courts as far as heirness goes, and provided the quote from the Law Society proving that. Being superior implies that the two systems are totally separate, which they are, so sharia hasn't become 'part' of English law. If it had, then our gender and sexual orientation equality laws would not exist. I don't mind being proven incorrect, but I do not accept when liars make false claims about what I am alleged to have said. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -9

2:57pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
zeegee ffs- another quote from you-The Law Society clearly stated that the sharia law of another country would be superior to that of the UK in certain areas in UK courts. That means that another legal system would be recognised in a UK court.
You'll find it on the other thread.
'Recognised' does not mean 'incorporated'.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: zeegee ffs- another quote from you-The Law Society clearly stated that the sharia law of another country would be superior to that of the UK in certain areas in UK courts. That means that another legal system would be recognised in a UK court. You'll find it on the other thread.[/p][/quote]'Recognised' does not mean 'incorporated'. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -5

2:58pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Saltdean Resident wrote:
My dad spent most of his life in the Royal Navy, he spent 6 years of that fighting facism, he is a true patriot and he would be turning in his grave if he knew how the freedom he fought for was being used by these knuckleheads. Loved his country and all it's people's, hated small minded ness of all extremes. Have fun shouting at each other but remember the ones no longer here that have their lives for your freedom, it hasn't come cheap so use it wisely.
So your dad fought for his country yet hated others showing their love of it?

He sounds mental, frankly.
[quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: My dad spent most of his life in the Royal Navy, he spent 6 years of that fighting facism, he is a true patriot and he would be turning in his grave if he knew how the freedom he fought for was being used by these knuckleheads. Loved his country and all it's people's, hated small minded ness of all extremes. Have fun shouting at each other but remember the ones no longer here that have their lives for your freedom, it hasn't come cheap so use it wisely.[/p][/quote]So your dad fought for his country yet hated others showing their love of it? He sounds mental, frankly. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -16

2:58pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
The poster called Arrgh described me as someone "who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system"

He has failed to produce a quote supporting that accusation. I have stated that sharia is seen as being superior to English law in English courts as far as heirness goes, and provided the quote from the Law Society proving that. Being superior implies that the two systems are totally separate, which they are, so sharia hasn't become 'part' of English law. If it had, then our gender and sexual orientation equality laws would not exist.

I don't mind being proven incorrect, but I do not accept when liars make false claims about what I am alleged to have said.

HTH
Look up what you said yesterday and refresh your memory. HTH
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: The poster called Arrgh described me as someone "who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system" He has failed to produce a quote supporting that accusation. I have stated that sharia is seen as being superior to English law in English courts as far as heirness goes, and provided the quote from the Law Society proving that. Being superior implies that the two systems are totally separate, which they are, so sharia hasn't become 'part' of English law. If it had, then our gender and sexual orientation equality laws would not exist. I don't mind being proven incorrect, but I do not accept when liars make false claims about what I am alleged to have said. HTH[/p][/quote]Look up what you said yesterday and refresh your memory. HTH Arrggh
  • Score: 5

3:00pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
The poster called Arrgh described me as someone "who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system"

He has failed to produce a quote supporting that accusation. I have stated that sharia is seen as being superior to English law in English courts as far as heirness goes, and provided the quote from the Law Society proving that. Being superior implies that the two systems are totally separate, which they are, so sharia hasn't become 'part' of English law. If it had, then our gender and sexual orientation equality laws would not exist.

I don't mind being proven incorrect, but I do not accept when liars make false claims about what I am alleged to have said.

HTH
Look up what you said yesterday and refresh your memory. HTH
You're a proven liar, sorry.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: The poster called Arrgh described me as someone "who thinks sharia is operating as part of the British legal system" He has failed to produce a quote supporting that accusation. I have stated that sharia is seen as being superior to English law in English courts as far as heirness goes, and provided the quote from the Law Society proving that. Being superior implies that the two systems are totally separate, which they are, so sharia hasn't become 'part' of English law. If it had, then our gender and sexual orientation equality laws would not exist. I don't mind being proven incorrect, but I do not accept when liars make false claims about what I am alleged to have said. HTH[/p][/quote]Look up what you said yesterday and refresh your memory. HTH[/p][/quote]You're a proven liar, sorry. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -4

3:01pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

zeegee ffs - another quip- Nothing you've posted confuses me. I've stated that you can post all you like but I have the statement from the Law Society backing my claim that sharia takes precedence in UK courts as afar as heirship goes.
Taking precedence could only happen if it were legally recognised.
zeegee ffs - another quip- Nothing you've posted confuses me. I've stated that you can post all you like but I have the statement from the Law Society backing my claim that sharia takes precedence in UK courts as afar as heirship goes. Taking precedence could only happen if it were legally recognised. Arrggh
  • Score: 3

3:02pm Fri 25 Apr 14

mhaiti says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons
Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.
Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...
Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?
When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...
"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque" Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building? "and get smashed at 10 in the morning...." Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right? Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.
So out of all that you picked on the two most innocuous two elements, nothing about the chants or homophobia? Not disputing those? P.s. FYI - The pavilion owes it's look to oriental origins (not to resemble a mosque).
So now you dictate what I reply to? You sound like a Nazi......funny, that. FYI I shall write my posts, not you.
I know you write your posts, you really do. I would need to go through some kind of massive head trauma to enable me to put such idiocy into words. No I don't dictate what you reply to...I just challenge you on your response. It's called debate... I sound like a nazi? That's my favourite yet....good one
You pointed out that I hadn't responded to every point you had made.
yeah, that sounds just like what a nazi would do...

pesky nazis and their quest for concise feedback
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons[/p][/quote]Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...[/p][/quote]Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?[/p][/quote]When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...[/p][/quote]"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque" Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building? "and get smashed at 10 in the morning...." Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right? Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.[/p][/quote]So out of all that you picked on the two most innocuous two elements, nothing about the chants or homophobia? Not disputing those? P.s. FYI - The pavilion owes it's look to oriental origins (not to resemble a mosque).[/p][/quote]So now you dictate what I reply to? You sound like a Nazi......funny, that. FYI I shall write my posts, not you.[/p][/quote]I know you write your posts, you really do. I would need to go through some kind of massive head trauma to enable me to put such idiocy into words. No I don't dictate what you reply to...I just challenge you on your response. It's called debate... I sound like a nazi? That's my favourite yet....good one[/p][/quote]You pointed out that I hadn't responded to every point you had made.[/p][/quote]yeah, that sounds just like what a nazi would do... pesky nazis and their quest for concise feedback mhaiti
  • Score: -1

3:02pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Shaddow says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers.

Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.
ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it!

So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF?

Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence.

The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year).

The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble.

The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub.

This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers. Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it! So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF? Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence. The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year). The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble. The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub. This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you). Shaddow
  • Score: 9

3:04pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers.

Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.
ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it!

So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF?

Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence.

The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year).

The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble.

The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub.

This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).
I said UAF etc......


Etc means " and the rest"

At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved.

Try reading what you've quoted in future.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers. Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it! So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF? Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence. The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year). The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble. The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub. This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).[/p][/quote]I said UAF etc...... Etc means " and the rest" At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved. Try reading what you've quoted in future. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -6

3:05pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
zeegee ffs - another quip- Nothing you've posted confuses me. I've stated that you can post all you like but I have the statement from the Law Society backing my claim that sharia takes precedence in UK courts as afar as heirship goes.
Taking precedence could only happen if it were legally recognised.
Again, if something takes 'precedence', it is obviously separate from that which it is superior to.

Nice try, though!
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: zeegee ffs - another quip- Nothing you've posted confuses me. I've stated that you can post all you like but I have the statement from the Law Society backing my claim that sharia takes precedence in UK courts as afar as heirship goes. Taking precedence could only happen if it were legally recognised.[/p][/quote]Again, if something takes 'precedence', it is obviously separate from that which it is superior to. Nice try, though! ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -4

3:10pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
zeegee ffs - another quip- Nothing you've posted confuses me. I've stated that you can post all you like but I have the statement from the Law Society backing my claim that sharia takes precedence in UK courts as afar as heirship goes.
Taking precedence could only happen if it were legally recognised.
Again, if something takes 'precedence', it is obviously separate from that which it is superior to.

Nice try, though!
Hiding behind your lack of basic comprehension again- in no sense does precedence mean separate from. Use a dictionary or even highlight the word and right-click and you'll get a definition.
It cannot be superior to another law unless it is recognised as legally valid in this country and it isn't.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: zeegee ffs - another quip- Nothing you've posted confuses me. I've stated that you can post all you like but I have the statement from the Law Society backing my claim that sharia takes precedence in UK courts as afar as heirship goes. Taking precedence could only happen if it were legally recognised.[/p][/quote]Again, if something takes 'precedence', it is obviously separate from that which it is superior to. Nice try, though![/p][/quote]Hiding behind your lack of basic comprehension again- in no sense does precedence mean separate from. Use a dictionary or even highlight the word and right-click and you'll get a definition. It cannot be superior to another law unless it is recognised as legally valid in this country and it isn't. Arrggh
  • Score: 3

3:16pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Fight_Back says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons
Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.
Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...
Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?
When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning....

if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...
"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque"

Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building?

"and get smashed at 10 in the morning...."

Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right?

Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.
Re the Royal Pavilion ..... errrr ..... no it wasn't. And if you were more intelligent you'd understand its design and its history.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons[/p][/quote]Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...[/p][/quote]Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?[/p][/quote]When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...[/p][/quote]"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque" Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building? "and get smashed at 10 in the morning...." Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right? Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.[/p][/quote]Re the Royal Pavilion ..... errrr ..... no it wasn't. And if you were more intelligent you'd understand its design and its history. Fight_Back
  • Score: 5

3:17pm Fri 25 Apr 14

tallchris says...

nuttyju wrote:
tallchris wrote:
Respect to all the Antifa and unaligned who will turn out on Sunday. You continue a fightback against fascism that has a proud history in Brighton.
LOL !! Mind your backs though eh !!! Because while you are throwing the contents of your unwashed bladders at the Patriots there may be someone in your crowd throwing the contents of there bladder at you !!!! Saving it all up for you scummers
If you lot actually come and dress in black, don't go on the march but look for aggro instead, not only will you find it but your mates on the march will look even more pathetic given there will only be 80 of them including the challenged looking women.

Whatever, we look forward to Sunday.
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tallchris[/bold] wrote: Respect to all the Antifa and unaligned who will turn out on Sunday. You continue a fightback against fascism that has a proud history in Brighton.[/p][/quote]LOL !! Mind your backs though eh !!! Because while you are throwing the contents of your unwashed bladders at the Patriots there may be someone in your crowd throwing the contents of there bladder at you !!!! Saving it all up for you scummers[/p][/quote]If you lot actually come and dress in black, don't go on the march but look for aggro instead, not only will you find it but your mates on the march will look even more pathetic given there will only be 80 of them including the challenged looking women. Whatever, we look forward to Sunday. tallchris
  • Score: 1

3:18pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Fight_Back says...

nuttyju wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
No I don't mind at all !! Because there is also a police bill for Pride and for the London to Brighton bike ride and all the other socially acceptable events that are held in Brighton. You cannot have it all your own way !! With regards to arrests made I think you will find that mostly the arrest are of the UAF / Antifa
Pride and the bike ride PAY for the police presence ! These thugs do not.
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]No I don't mind at all !! Because there is also a police bill for Pride and for the London to Brighton bike ride and all the other socially acceptable events that are held in Brighton. You cannot have it all your own way !! With regards to arrests made I think you will find that mostly the arrest are of the UAF / Antifa[/p][/quote]Pride and the bike ride PAY for the police presence ! These thugs do not. Fight_Back
  • Score: 6

3:21pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Mr chock says...

its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)
its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :) Mr chock
  • Score: 1

3:23pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Shaddow says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers.

Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.
ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it!

So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF?

Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence.

The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year).

The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble.

The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub.

This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).
I said UAF etc......


Etc means " and the rest"

At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved.

Try reading what you've quoted in future.

HTH
You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers. Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it! So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF? Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence. The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year). The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble. The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub. This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).[/p][/quote]I said UAF etc...... Etc means " and the rest" At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved. Try reading what you've quoted in future. HTH[/p][/quote]You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others? Shaddow
  • Score: 5

3:31pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Mr chock wrote:
its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)
They will get marched back to the station by the police. I hope there isn't too much trade lost by businesses near the march.
[quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)[/p][/quote]They will get marched back to the station by the police. I hope there isn't too much trade lost by businesses near the march. Arrggh
  • Score: 3

3:33pm Fri 25 Apr 14

nuttyju says...

Arrggh wrote:
Mr chock wrote:
its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)
They will get marched back to the station by the police. I hope there isn't too much trade lost by businesses near the march.
Thats correct they will and the UAF scum will be free to walk around or go to the pub or whatever they like and that is fair how exactly ?
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)[/p][/quote]They will get marched back to the station by the police. I hope there isn't too much trade lost by businesses near the march.[/p][/quote]Thats correct they will and the UAF scum will be free to walk around or go to the pub or whatever they like and that is fair how exactly ? nuttyju
  • Score: -4

3:39pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

nuttyju wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Mr chock wrote:
its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)
They will get marched back to the station by the police. I hope there isn't too much trade lost by businesses near the march.
Thats correct they will and the UAF scum will be free to walk around or go to the pub or whatever they like and that is fair how exactly ?
The UAF scum as you call them haven't issued threats ahead of the event, haven't called it a day to bash the reds or anybody and weren't provided with a bus last year for the safety of the public- the polices own words.
Most of those opposing are locals- would you have them kettled the moment they step out of the front door?
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)[/p][/quote]They will get marched back to the station by the police. I hope there isn't too much trade lost by businesses near the march.[/p][/quote]Thats correct they will and the UAF scum will be free to walk around or go to the pub or whatever they like and that is fair how exactly ?[/p][/quote]The UAF scum as you call them haven't issued threats ahead of the event, haven't called it a day to bash the reds or anybody and weren't provided with a bus last year for the safety of the public- the polices own words. Most of those opposing are locals- would you have them kettled the moment they step out of the front door? Arrggh
  • Score: 6

3:44pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Shaddow says...

nuttyju wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
No I don't mind at all !! Because there is also a police bill for Pride and for the London to Brighton bike ride and all the other socially acceptable events that are held in Brighton. You cannot have it all your own way !! With regards to arrests made I think you will find that mostly the arrest are of the UAF / Antifa
You really don't know much about these events to which you speak of do you?

Firstly Pride started as a protest for equal rights (to which we still don't have) and has indeed to this day still continues that protest line. It also raises funds for charities in this city. The violence usually comes in the form of homophobic violence. Those shops that line the route make a fortune on that day. The entire gay scene makes a fortune that day. Brighton Pride brings money into this city.

Secondly ...London to Brighton bike ride ...not even a protest ...it's a way for many people to achieve something and to raise money for charity. Not one bit of violence ever reported. This event brings money into this city.

Lastly ...MfE. Not a protest but billed as a 'family event' but yet has nothing planned which you would normally find at a family event (unless you think walking from A to B counts as a family event?) The night before the 'family event' groups right wing supporters go looking for trouble in St James St and in recent years London Road. Then on the actual day of this 'family event' we see adults already drunk and abusive by 10am ...the abuse comes in the form of racist and homophobic. The one's that are violent are the groups of men (am guessing the same ones who go out Saturday night) who roam the side streets looking for trouble. These men have come to Brighton under the MfE banner ...so thus they tar each and every one of you.

The majority of you stay in places outside of Brighton (wasn't it Worthing last time?) ....the entire 'family event' shuts down business on the seafront ...even Charles St and Bar Revenge shut it doors!!!

This event costs more then what it gives back ...as all it seems to give back for the past god knows how many years now is nothing but homophobic and racist abuse as well as violence!

So tell you what ...see if you can opt out of paying for Pride and the London to Brighton bike run ....and the rest of us will opt out of paying for MfE ;)

P.S. Suggest you take a closer look at the statistics with regards to arrests ;)
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]No I don't mind at all !! Because there is also a police bill for Pride and for the London to Brighton bike ride and all the other socially acceptable events that are held in Brighton. You cannot have it all your own way !! With regards to arrests made I think you will find that mostly the arrest are of the UAF / Antifa[/p][/quote]You really don't know much about these events to which you speak of do you? Firstly Pride started as a protest for equal rights (to which we still don't have) and has indeed to this day still continues that protest line. It also raises funds for charities in this city. The violence usually comes in the form of homophobic violence. Those shops that line the route make a fortune on that day. The entire gay scene makes a fortune that day. Brighton Pride brings money into this city. Secondly ...London to Brighton bike ride ...not even a protest ...it's a way for many people to achieve something and to raise money for charity. Not one bit of violence ever reported. This event brings money into this city. Lastly ...MfE. Not a protest but billed as a 'family event' but yet has nothing planned which you would normally find at a family event (unless you think walking from A to B counts as a family event?) The night before the 'family event' groups right wing supporters go looking for trouble in St James St and in recent years London Road. Then on the actual day of this 'family event' we see adults already drunk and abusive by 10am ...the abuse comes in the form of racist and homophobic. The one's that are violent are the groups of men (am guessing the same ones who go out Saturday night) who roam the side streets looking for trouble. These men have come to Brighton under the MfE banner ...so thus they tar each and every one of you. The majority of you stay in places outside of Brighton (wasn't it Worthing last time?) ....the entire 'family event' shuts down business on the seafront ...even Charles St and Bar Revenge shut it doors!!! This event costs more then what it gives back ...as all it seems to give back for the past god knows how many years now is nothing but homophobic and racist abuse as well as violence! So tell you what ...see if you can opt out of paying for Pride and the London to Brighton bike run ....and the rest of us will opt out of paying for MfE ;) P.S. Suggest you take a closer look at the statistics with regards to arrests ;) Shaddow
  • Score: 7

3:51pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Ashles says...

So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"?

That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies)

Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country.

I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer?

it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender).

I bet they have many stories on subjects like:
'Things I heard about Sharia law...',
"The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London"
"My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..."

Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like:
The History of England
England's place in the politics of the world
Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world
or
How to organise a St George's Day fair
So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair Ashles
  • Score: 5

4:00pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Ashles wrote:
So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"?

That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies)

Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country.

I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer?

it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender).

I bet they have many stories on subjects like:
'Things I heard about Sharia law...',
"The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London"
"My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..."

Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like:
The History of England
England's place in the politics of the world
Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world
or
How to organise a St George's Day fair
Try not to guess how people celebrate their country.

It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.
[quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair[/p][/quote]Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -5

4:01pm Fri 25 Apr 14

nuttyju says...

nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Minus 43 Ju you exceeded your normal !! As I said before I LOVE winding you lot up !!! Goodnight and see you on Sunday, gonna be lots of fun hee hee
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Minus 43 Ju you exceeded your normal !! As I said before I LOVE winding you lot up !!! Goodnight and see you on Sunday, gonna be lots of fun hee hee nuttyju
  • Score: -5

4:01pm Fri 25 Apr 14

nuttyju says...

nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Minus 43 Ju you exceeded your normal !! As I said before I LOVE winding you lot up !!! Goodnight and see you on Sunday, gonna be lots of fun hee hee
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Minus 43 Ju you exceeded your normal !! As I said before I LOVE winding you lot up !!! Goodnight and see you on Sunday, gonna be lots of fun hee hee nuttyju
  • Score: -5

4:02pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"Firstly Pride started as a protest for equal rights (to which we still don't have)"

Are you claiming that gays don't have equal rights to heteros? That plainly isn't the case.

In fact, gays have one right that is denied heteros - the right to have a civil partnership.

HTH
"Firstly Pride started as a protest for equal rights (to which we still don't have)" Are you claiming that gays don't have equal rights to heteros? That plainly isn't the case. In fact, gays have one right that is denied heteros - the right to have a civil partnership. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -9

4:05pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Brightonian63 says...

Just make the hole bigger and bury the fascist b'stards
Just make the hole bigger and bury the fascist b'stards Brightonian63
  • Score: 2

4:06pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Mr chock wrote:
its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)
They will get marched back to the station by the police. I hope there isn't too much trade lost by businesses near the march.
Thats correct they will and the UAF scum will be free to walk around or go to the pub or whatever they like and that is fair how exactly ?
The UAF scum as you call them haven't issued threats ahead of the event, haven't called it a day to bash the reds or anybody and weren't provided with a bus last year for the safety of the public- the polices own words.
Most of those opposing are locals- would you have them kettled the moment they step out of the front door?
No threat, eh?

So why are they turning up on the day?

http://brightonuaf.o
rg/
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)[/p][/quote]They will get marched back to the station by the police. I hope there isn't too much trade lost by businesses near the march.[/p][/quote]Thats correct they will and the UAF scum will be free to walk around or go to the pub or whatever they like and that is fair how exactly ?[/p][/quote]The UAF scum as you call them haven't issued threats ahead of the event, haven't called it a day to bash the reds or anybody and weren't provided with a bus last year for the safety of the public- the polices own words. Most of those opposing are locals- would you have them kettled the moment they step out of the front door?[/p][/quote]No threat, eh? So why are they turning up on the day? http://brightonuaf.o rg/ ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -5

4:06pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Brightonian63 wrote:
Just make the hole bigger and bury the fascist b'stards
How about we throw the bigots like you into it?
[quote][p][bold]Brightonian63[/bold] wrote: Just make the hole bigger and bury the fascist b'stards[/p][/quote]How about we throw the bigots like you into it? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -5

4:07pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Mr chock wrote:
its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)
They will get marched back to the station by the police. I hope there isn't too much trade lost by businesses near the march.
Well you can thank the UAf etc for ensuring that businesses will be losing trade.,
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)[/p][/quote]They will get marched back to the station by the police. I hope there isn't too much trade lost by businesses near the march.[/p][/quote]Well you can thank the UAf etc for ensuring that businesses will be losing trade., ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -6

4:10pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers.

Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.
ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it!

So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF?

Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence.

The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year).

The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble.

The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub.

This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).
I said UAF etc......


Etc means " and the rest"

At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved.

Try reading what you've quoted in future.

HTH
You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?
I was correcting someone who had lied about what I had said. That's something which has happened to you already.

If the UAF ETC didn't turn up, there wouldn't be any confrontations.
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers. Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it! So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF? Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence. The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year). The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble. The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub. This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).[/p][/quote]I said UAF etc...... Etc means " and the rest" At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved. Try reading what you've quoted in future. HTH[/p][/quote]You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?[/p][/quote]I was correcting someone who had lied about what I had said. That's something which has happened to you already. If the UAF ETC didn't turn up, there wouldn't be any confrontations. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -5

4:12pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Mr chock wrote:
its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)
They will get marched back to the station by the police. I hope there isn't too much trade lost by businesses near the march.
Thats correct they will and the UAF scum will be free to walk around or go to the pub or whatever they like and that is fair how exactly ?
The UAF scum as you call them haven't issued threats ahead of the event, haven't called it a day to bash the reds or anybody and weren't provided with a bus last year for the safety of the public- the polices own words.
Most of those opposing are locals- would you have them kettled the moment they step out of the front door?
No threat, eh?

So why are they turning up on the day?

http://brightonuaf.o

rg/
What do you think you prove with a link to an out of date site that doesn't contain threats?
It's not the opposition to the march that means pubs will be told you can't open unless you have doorstaff.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)[/p][/quote]They will get marched back to the station by the police. I hope there isn't too much trade lost by businesses near the march.[/p][/quote]Thats correct they will and the UAF scum will be free to walk around or go to the pub or whatever they like and that is fair how exactly ?[/p][/quote]The UAF scum as you call them haven't issued threats ahead of the event, haven't called it a day to bash the reds or anybody and weren't provided with a bus last year for the safety of the public- the polices own words. Most of those opposing are locals- would you have them kettled the moment they step out of the front door?[/p][/quote]No threat, eh? So why are they turning up on the day? http://brightonuaf.o rg/[/p][/quote]What do you think you prove with a link to an out of date site that doesn't contain threats? It's not the opposition to the march that means pubs will be told you can't open unless you have doorstaff. Arrggh
  • Score: 3

4:14pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers.

Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.
ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it!

So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF?

Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence.

The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year).

The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble.

The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub.

This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).
I said UAF etc......


Etc means " and the rest"

At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved.

Try reading what you've quoted in future.

HTH
You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?
Which points have I failed to address?

1) Anyone is free in England to fly the England flag without fear of intimidation from anyone

2) Brighton is a tourist destination. It was built as such, and it depends on tourism.

3) Loving one's country isn't an offence, and it certainly isn't racist in any way.

4) Preventing freedom of expression is an offence in the UK.

5) Many Brighton residents support the rights of patriots to display their patriotism.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers. Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it! So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF? Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence. The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year). The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble. The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub. This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).[/p][/quote]I said UAF etc...... Etc means " and the rest" At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved. Try reading what you've quoted in future. HTH[/p][/quote]You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?[/p][/quote]Which points have I failed to address? 1) Anyone is free in England to fly the England flag without fear of intimidation from anyone 2) Brighton is a tourist destination. It was built as such, and it depends on tourism. 3) Loving one's country isn't an offence, and it certainly isn't racist in any way. 4) Preventing freedom of expression is an offence in the UK. 5) Many Brighton residents support the rights of patriots to display their patriotism. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

4:14pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Ashles says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair
Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.
Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't.

Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned?

Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair[/p][/quote]Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.[/p][/quote]Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't. Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned? Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting? Ashles
  • Score: 3

4:15pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Mr chock wrote:
its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)
They will get marched back to the station by the police. I hope there isn't too much trade lost by businesses near the march.
Thats correct they will and the UAF scum will be free to walk around or go to the pub or whatever they like and that is fair how exactly ?
The UAF scum as you call them haven't issued threats ahead of the event, haven't called it a day to bash the reds or anybody and weren't provided with a bus last year for the safety of the public- the polices own words.
Most of those opposing are locals- would you have them kettled the moment they step out of the front door?
No threat, eh?

So why are they turning up on the day?

http://brightonuaf.o


rg/
What do you think you prove with a link to an out of date site that doesn't contain threats?
It's not the opposition to the march that means pubs will be told you can't open unless you have doorstaff.
The link is shown as being updated on 25-4-14.....that's today, for the stupid people among us.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: its good to know the fortune of war pub is due to re open soon .. the marchers can go in there after the marching :)[/p][/quote]They will get marched back to the station by the police. I hope there isn't too much trade lost by businesses near the march.[/p][/quote]Thats correct they will and the UAF scum will be free to walk around or go to the pub or whatever they like and that is fair how exactly ?[/p][/quote]The UAF scum as you call them haven't issued threats ahead of the event, haven't called it a day to bash the reds or anybody and weren't provided with a bus last year for the safety of the public- the polices own words. Most of those opposing are locals- would you have them kettled the moment they step out of the front door?[/p][/quote]No threat, eh? So why are they turning up on the day? http://brightonuaf.o rg/[/p][/quote]What do you think you prove with a link to an out of date site that doesn't contain threats? It's not the opposition to the march that means pubs will be told you can't open unless you have doorstaff.[/p][/quote]The link is shown as being updated on 25-4-14.....that's today, for the stupid people among us. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

4:17pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair
Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.
Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't.

Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned?

Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?
The MFE is a single event.

Do not try and guess what other activities the marchers have participated in during this week of celebrations.
[quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair[/p][/quote]Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.[/p][/quote]Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't. Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned? Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?[/p][/quote]The MFE is a single event. Do not try and guess what other activities the marchers have participated in during this week of celebrations. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

4:22pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Zeegee ffs - does the site you posted contain threats of violence?
As opposed to those on multiple sites promoting the march. It's easy to know what other events marchers are involved in when they shout E-E-EDL and promote far-right groups like the tiny South East Alliance.
Zeegee ffs - does the site you posted contain threats of violence? As opposed to those on multiple sites promoting the march. It's easy to know what other events marchers are involved in when they shout E-E-EDL and promote far-right groups like the tiny South East Alliance. Arrggh
  • Score: 3

4:26pm Fri 25 Apr 14

sussexfoz says...

Maybe they will all march in to that hole in kings rd and never be seen again,i have no issue with them marching,i also think people have a right to oppose the march,i don't think there nazis just a tad retarded
Maybe they will all march in to that hole in kings rd and never be seen again,i have no issue with them marching,i also think people have a right to oppose the march,i don't think there nazis just a tad retarded sussexfoz
  • Score: 0

4:28pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

sussexfoz wrote:
Maybe they will all march in to that hole in kings rd and never be seen again,i have no issue with them marching,i also think people have a right to oppose the march,i don't think there nazis just a tad retarded
So you have no issue with them marching, but you want the march to end violently with people failing into a hole.

What was that bit about 'retarded'?
[quote][p][bold]sussexfoz[/bold] wrote: Maybe they will all march in to that hole in kings rd and never be seen again,i have no issue with them marching,i also think people have a right to oppose the march,i don't think there nazis just a tad retarded[/p][/quote]So you have no issue with them marching, but you want the march to end violently with people failing into a hole. What was that bit about 'retarded'? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 0

4:30pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Ashles says...

"1) Anyone is free in England to fly the England flag without fear of intimidation from anyone"

Yes they are. Absolutely agree.
So it seems strange that people feel the need to travel to other places in order to do this thing that everyone is freely entitled to do.
Everyone is free to wear hats. For someone they don't feel the need to travel to places to march wearing hats.

"2) Brighton is a tourist destination. It was built as such, and it depends on tourism."
Yes. And stangely having Marchers agressively shouting walking through the streets negatively impacts the tourist experience.
Please don't even pretend that the MfE is in any way comparable with the average tourist visiting Brighton.

"3) Loving one's country isn't an offence, and it certainly isn't racist in any way."
No it isn't.
Racist chanting - that's racist. Racist gestures - they're racist. Racist comments - they're racist. Racist literature - that's racist. Racist slogans on clothing or banners - they're racist.
If you don't have/do any of the racist things then you aren't exhibiting racism,
See how easy it is to not be a racist?

"4) Preventing freedom of expression is an offence in the UK."
Again you are pointing out things that are not in dispute.
However as with all countries this is not an unlimited right - incitement towards illegal activity certainly can be an offence.

"5) Many Brighton residents support the rights of patriots to display their patriotism."
Really? Perhaps you'd like to somehow evidence that?
(And I'm ignoring the weaselly language in your question - I am all for healthy patriotism and national pride but I in no way supprt the MfE - those two things are not in any way comparable or equivalent)
"1) Anyone is free in England to fly the England flag without fear of intimidation from anyone" Yes they are. Absolutely agree. So it seems strange that people feel the need to travel to other places in order to do this thing that everyone is freely entitled to do. Everyone is free to wear hats. For someone they don't feel the need to travel to places to march wearing hats. "2) Brighton is a tourist destination. It was built as such, and it depends on tourism." Yes. And stangely having Marchers agressively shouting walking through the streets negatively impacts the tourist experience. Please don't even pretend that the MfE is in any way comparable with the average tourist visiting Brighton. "3) Loving one's country isn't an offence, and it certainly isn't racist in any way." No it isn't. Racist chanting - that's racist. Racist gestures - they're racist. Racist comments - they're racist. Racist literature - that's racist. Racist slogans on clothing or banners - they're racist. If you don't have/do any of the racist things then you aren't exhibiting racism, See how easy it is to not be a racist? "4) Preventing freedom of expression is an offence in the UK." Again you are pointing out things that are not in dispute. However as with all countries this is not an unlimited right - incitement towards illegal activity certainly can be an offence. "5) Many Brighton residents support the rights of patriots to display their patriotism." Really? Perhaps you'd like to somehow evidence that? (And I'm ignoring the weaselly language in your question - I am all for healthy patriotism and national pride but I in no way supprt the MfE - those two things are not in any way comparable or equivalent) Ashles
  • Score: 9

4:30pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs - does the site you posted contain threats of violence?
As opposed to those on multiple sites promoting the march. It's easy to know what other events marchers are involved in when they shout E-E-EDL and promote far-right groups like the tiny South East Alliance.
Who said violence was mentioned on that site?

I'd ask you to quote them doing so, but we both know you'll fail.

Have you worked out what today's date is? Good for you!
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs - does the site you posted contain threats of violence? As opposed to those on multiple sites promoting the march. It's easy to know what other events marchers are involved in when they shout E-E-EDL and promote far-right groups like the tiny South East Alliance.[/p][/quote]Who said violence was mentioned on that site? I'd ask you to quote them doing so, but we both know you'll fail. Have you worked out what today's date is? Good for you! ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

4:30pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Ashles wrote:
"1) Anyone is free in England to fly the England flag without fear of intimidation from anyone"

Yes they are. Absolutely agree.
So it seems strange that people feel the need to travel to other places in order to do this thing that everyone is freely entitled to do.
Everyone is free to wear hats. For someone they don't feel the need to travel to places to march wearing hats.

"2) Brighton is a tourist destination. It was built as such, and it depends on tourism."
Yes. And stangely having Marchers agressively shouting walking through the streets negatively impacts the tourist experience.
Please don't even pretend that the MfE is in any way comparable with the average tourist visiting Brighton.

"3) Loving one's country isn't an offence, and it certainly isn't racist in any way."
No it isn't.
Racist chanting - that's racist. Racist gestures - they're racist. Racist comments - they're racist. Racist literature - that's racist. Racist slogans on clothing or banners - they're racist.
If you don't have/do any of the racist things then you aren't exhibiting racism,
See how easy it is to not be a racist?

"4) Preventing freedom of expression is an offence in the UK."
Again you are pointing out things that are not in dispute.
However as with all countries this is not an unlimited right - incitement towards illegal activity certainly can be an offence.

"5) Many Brighton residents support the rights of patriots to display their patriotism."
Really? Perhaps you'd like to somehow evidence that?
(And I'm ignoring the weaselly language in your question - I am all for healthy patriotism and national pride but I in no way supprt the MfE - those two things are not in any way comparable or equivalent)
So I've addressed the major points.
[quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: "1) Anyone is free in England to fly the England flag without fear of intimidation from anyone" Yes they are. Absolutely agree. So it seems strange that people feel the need to travel to other places in order to do this thing that everyone is freely entitled to do. Everyone is free to wear hats. For someone they don't feel the need to travel to places to march wearing hats. "2) Brighton is a tourist destination. It was built as such, and it depends on tourism." Yes. And stangely having Marchers agressively shouting walking through the streets negatively impacts the tourist experience. Please don't even pretend that the MfE is in any way comparable with the average tourist visiting Brighton. "3) Loving one's country isn't an offence, and it certainly isn't racist in any way." No it isn't. Racist chanting - that's racist. Racist gestures - they're racist. Racist comments - they're racist. Racist literature - that's racist. Racist slogans on clothing or banners - they're racist. If you don't have/do any of the racist things then you aren't exhibiting racism, See how easy it is to not be a racist? "4) Preventing freedom of expression is an offence in the UK." Again you are pointing out things that are not in dispute. However as with all countries this is not an unlimited right - incitement towards illegal activity certainly can be an offence. "5) Many Brighton residents support the rights of patriots to display their patriotism." Really? Perhaps you'd like to somehow evidence that? (And I'm ignoring the weaselly language in your question - I am all for healthy patriotism and national pride but I in no way supprt the MfE - those two things are not in any way comparable or equivalent)[/p][/quote]So I've addressed the major points. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -4

4:32pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Shaddow says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers.

Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.
ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it!

So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF?

Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence.

The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year).

The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble.

The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub.

This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).
I said UAF etc......


Etc means " and the rest"

At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved.

Try reading what you've quoted in future.

HTH
You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?
I was correcting someone who had lied about what I had said. That's something which has happened to you already.

If the UAF ETC didn't turn up, there wouldn't be any confrontations.
If the MfE weren't a bunch of drunken racist homophobic violent hooligans then UAF wouldn't have needed to even make a stand against the continued growing abuse and violence that occurred when MfE came to town.

I remember seeing the first MfE St Georges day march ...there was no counter protest ...then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public still though no counter protest on that year. The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. That year one MfE protester pleaded guilty to assault.

Then of course it was the 'revenge attack' to which the famous Steve Sands was arrested for GBH.

Perhaps if MfE/EDL had remained peaceful ...but then again you're not a peaceful group are you!
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers. Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it! So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF? Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence. The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year). The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble. The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub. This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).[/p][/quote]I said UAF etc...... Etc means " and the rest" At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved. Try reading what you've quoted in future. HTH[/p][/quote]You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?[/p][/quote]I was correcting someone who had lied about what I had said. That's something which has happened to you already. If the UAF ETC didn't turn up, there wouldn't be any confrontations.[/p][/quote]If the MfE weren't a bunch of drunken racist homophobic violent hooligans then UAF wouldn't have needed to even make a stand against the continued growing abuse and violence that occurred when MfE came to town. I remember seeing the first MfE St Georges day march ...there was no counter protest ...then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public still though no counter protest on that year. The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. That year one MfE protester pleaded guilty to assault. Then of course it was the 'revenge attack' to which the famous Steve Sands was arrested for GBH. Perhaps if MfE/EDL had remained peaceful ...but then again you're not a peaceful group are you! Shaddow
  • Score: 2

4:36pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Ashles says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair
Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.
Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't. Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned? Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?
The MFE is a single event. Do not try and guess what other activities the marchers have participated in during this week of celebrations.
I'm afraid we can only go on what we can observe.

No doubt all the Marchers spent this last week organising charity events, helping orphans and Morris Dancing, but all we will actually be able to observe is the March for England.
Which, I assume you are agreeing, will consist entirely of walking and shouting.

How inspiring.
How could anyone watch such a spectacle and fail to feel proud of our National Identity.
Every can of lager held will of course magnify the inspiring effect.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair[/p][/quote]Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.[/p][/quote]Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't. Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned? Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?[/p][/quote]The MFE is a single event. Do not try and guess what other activities the marchers have participated in during this week of celebrations.[/p][/quote]I'm afraid we can only go on what we can observe. No doubt all the Marchers spent this last week organising charity events, helping orphans and Morris Dancing, but all we will actually be able to observe is the March for England. Which, I assume you are agreeing, will consist entirely of walking and shouting. How inspiring. How could anyone watch such a spectacle and fail to feel proud of our National Identity. Every can of lager held will of course magnify the inspiring effect. Ashles
  • Score: 2

4:37pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs - does the site you posted contain threats of violence?
As opposed to those on multiple sites promoting the march. It's easy to know what other events marchers are involved in when they shout E-E-EDL and promote far-right groups like the tiny South East Alliance.
Who said violence was mentioned on that site?

I'd ask you to quote them doing so, but we both know you'll fail.

Have you worked out what today's date is? Good for you!
To quote you again-No threat, eh? Followed by their site- do you really struggle with saying what you mean all the time?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs - does the site you posted contain threats of violence? As opposed to those on multiple sites promoting the march. It's easy to know what other events marchers are involved in when they shout E-E-EDL and promote far-right groups like the tiny South East Alliance.[/p][/quote]Who said violence was mentioned on that site? I'd ask you to quote them doing so, but we both know you'll fail. Have you worked out what today's date is? Good for you![/p][/quote]To quote you again-No threat, eh? Followed by their site- do you really struggle with saying what you mean all the time? Arrggh
  • Score: 2

4:39pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs - does the site you posted contain threats of violence?
As opposed to those on multiple sites promoting the march. It's easy to know what other events marchers are involved in when they shout E-E-EDL and promote far-right groups like the tiny South East Alliance.
Who said violence was mentioned on that site?

I'd ask you to quote them doing so, but we both know you'll fail.

Have you worked out what today's date is? Good for you!
To quote you again-No threat, eh? Followed by their site- do you really struggle with saying what you mean all the time?
So you don't have a quote from anyone claiming that the page mentioned violence.

Have you ever considered reality over ignorance?
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs - does the site you posted contain threats of violence? As opposed to those on multiple sites promoting the march. It's easy to know what other events marchers are involved in when they shout E-E-EDL and promote far-right groups like the tiny South East Alliance.[/p][/quote]Who said violence was mentioned on that site? I'd ask you to quote them doing so, but we both know you'll fail. Have you worked out what today's date is? Good for you![/p][/quote]To quote you again-No threat, eh? Followed by their site- do you really struggle with saying what you mean all the time?[/p][/quote]So you don't have a quote from anyone claiming that the page mentioned violence. Have you ever considered reality over ignorance? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

4:39pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair
Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.
Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't. Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned? Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?
The MFE is a single event. Do not try and guess what other activities the marchers have participated in during this week of celebrations.
I'm afraid we can only go on what we can observe.

No doubt all the Marchers spent this last week organising charity events, helping orphans and Morris Dancing, but all we will actually be able to observe is the March for England.
Which, I assume you are agreeing, will consist entirely of walking and shouting.

How inspiring.
How could anyone watch such a spectacle and fail to feel proud of our National Identity.
Every can of lager held will of course magnify the inspiring effect.
So you've realised how stupid you were making assumptions on what the marchers have been doing.
[quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair[/p][/quote]Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.[/p][/quote]Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't. Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned? Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?[/p][/quote]The MFE is a single event. Do not try and guess what other activities the marchers have participated in during this week of celebrations.[/p][/quote]I'm afraid we can only go on what we can observe. No doubt all the Marchers spent this last week organising charity events, helping orphans and Morris Dancing, but all we will actually be able to observe is the March for England. Which, I assume you are agreeing, will consist entirely of walking and shouting. How inspiring. How could anyone watch such a spectacle and fail to feel proud of our National Identity. Every can of lager held will of course magnify the inspiring effect.[/p][/quote]So you've realised how stupid you were making assumptions on what the marchers have been doing. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

4:40pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Ashles says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote: "1) Anyone is free in England to fly the England flag without fear of intimidation from anyone" Yes they are. Absolutely agree. So it seems strange that people feel the need to travel to other places in order to do this thing that everyone is freely entitled to do. Everyone is free to wear hats. For someone they don't feel the need to travel to places to march wearing hats. "2) Brighton is a tourist destination. It was built as such, and it depends on tourism." Yes. And stangely having Marchers agressively shouting walking through the streets negatively impacts the tourist experience. Please don't even pretend that the MfE is in any way comparable with the average tourist visiting Brighton. "3) Loving one's country isn't an offence, and it certainly isn't racist in any way." No it isn't. Racist chanting - that's racist. Racist gestures - they're racist. Racist comments - they're racist. Racist literature - that's racist. Racist slogans on clothing or banners - they're racist. If you don't have/do any of the racist things then you aren't exhibiting racism, See how easy it is to not be a racist? "4) Preventing freedom of expression is an offence in the UK." Again you are pointing out things that are not in dispute. However as with all countries this is not an unlimited right - incitement towards illegal activity certainly can be an offence. "5) Many Brighton residents support the rights of patriots to display their patriotism." Really? Perhaps you'd like to somehow evidence that? (And I'm ignoring the weaselly language in your question - I am all for healthy patriotism and national pride but I in no way supprt the MfE - those two things are not in any way comparable or equivalent)
So I've addressed the major points.
No, you're confused.

You made some (poor) points and *I* addressed them.

Check the order in which the text reads - the clue's in that my comments come after yours.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: "1) Anyone is free in England to fly the England flag without fear of intimidation from anyone" Yes they are. Absolutely agree. So it seems strange that people feel the need to travel to other places in order to do this thing that everyone is freely entitled to do. Everyone is free to wear hats. For someone they don't feel the need to travel to places to march wearing hats. "2) Brighton is a tourist destination. It was built as such, and it depends on tourism." Yes. And stangely having Marchers agressively shouting walking through the streets negatively impacts the tourist experience. Please don't even pretend that the MfE is in any way comparable with the average tourist visiting Brighton. "3) Loving one's country isn't an offence, and it certainly isn't racist in any way." No it isn't. Racist chanting - that's racist. Racist gestures - they're racist. Racist comments - they're racist. Racist literature - that's racist. Racist slogans on clothing or banners - they're racist. If you don't have/do any of the racist things then you aren't exhibiting racism, See how easy it is to not be a racist? "4) Preventing freedom of expression is an offence in the UK." Again you are pointing out things that are not in dispute. However as with all countries this is not an unlimited right - incitement towards illegal activity certainly can be an offence. "5) Many Brighton residents support the rights of patriots to display their patriotism." Really? Perhaps you'd like to somehow evidence that? (And I'm ignoring the weaselly language in your question - I am all for healthy patriotism and national pride but I in no way supprt the MfE - those two things are not in any way comparable or equivalent)[/p][/quote]So I've addressed the major points.[/p][/quote]No, you're confused. You made some (poor) points and *I* addressed them. Check the order in which the text reads - the clue's in that my comments come after yours. Ashles
  • Score: 2

4:41pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers.

Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.
ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it!

So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF?

Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence.

The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year).

The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble.

The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub.

This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).
I said UAF etc......


Etc means " and the rest"

At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved.

Try reading what you've quoted in future.

HTH
You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?
I was correcting someone who had lied about what I had said. That's something which has happened to you already.

If the UAF ETC didn't turn up, there wouldn't be any confrontations.
If the MfE weren't a bunch of drunken racist homophobic violent hooligans then UAF wouldn't have needed to even make a stand against the continued growing abuse and violence that occurred when MfE came to town.

I remember seeing the first MfE St Georges day march ...there was no counter protest ...then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public still though no counter protest on that year. The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. That year one MfE protester pleaded guilty to assault.

Then of course it was the 'revenge attack' to which the famous Steve Sands was arrested for GBH.

Perhaps if MfE/EDL had remained peaceful ...but then again you're not a peaceful group are you!
So reports were 'heard', and the next year the UAF thugs turned up.
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers. Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it! So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF? Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence. The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year). The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble. The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub. This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).[/p][/quote]I said UAF etc...... Etc means " and the rest" At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved. Try reading what you've quoted in future. HTH[/p][/quote]You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?[/p][/quote]I was correcting someone who had lied about what I had said. That's something which has happened to you already. If the UAF ETC didn't turn up, there wouldn't be any confrontations.[/p][/quote]If the MfE weren't a bunch of drunken racist homophobic violent hooligans then UAF wouldn't have needed to even make a stand against the continued growing abuse and violence that occurred when MfE came to town. I remember seeing the first MfE St Georges day march ...there was no counter protest ...then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public still though no counter protest on that year. The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. That year one MfE protester pleaded guilty to assault. Then of course it was the 'revenge attack' to which the famous Steve Sands was arrested for GBH. Perhaps if MfE/EDL had remained peaceful ...but then again you're not a peaceful group are you![/p][/quote]So reports were 'heard', and the next year the UAF thugs turned up. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

4:42pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote: "1) Anyone is free in England to fly the England flag without fear of intimidation from anyone" Yes they are. Absolutely agree. So it seems strange that people feel the need to travel to other places in order to do this thing that everyone is freely entitled to do. Everyone is free to wear hats. For someone they don't feel the need to travel to places to march wearing hats. "2) Brighton is a tourist destination. It was built as such, and it depends on tourism." Yes. And stangely having Marchers agressively shouting walking through the streets negatively impacts the tourist experience. Please don't even pretend that the MfE is in any way comparable with the average tourist visiting Brighton. "3) Loving one's country isn't an offence, and it certainly isn't racist in any way." No it isn't. Racist chanting - that's racist. Racist gestures - they're racist. Racist comments - they're racist. Racist literature - that's racist. Racist slogans on clothing or banners - they're racist. If you don't have/do any of the racist things then you aren't exhibiting racism, See how easy it is to not be a racist? "4) Preventing freedom of expression is an offence in the UK." Again you are pointing out things that are not in dispute. However as with all countries this is not an unlimited right - incitement towards illegal activity certainly can be an offence. "5) Many Brighton residents support the rights of patriots to display their patriotism." Really? Perhaps you'd like to somehow evidence that? (And I'm ignoring the weaselly language in your question - I am all for healthy patriotism and national pride but I in no way supprt the MfE - those two things are not in any way comparable or equivalent)
So I've addressed the major points.
No, you're confused.

You made some (poor) points and *I* addressed them.

Check the order in which the text reads - the clue's in that my comments come after yours.
But you accept that I addressed five major points, whether or not you agreed with my opinion on them?
[quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: "1) Anyone is free in England to fly the England flag without fear of intimidation from anyone" Yes they are. Absolutely agree. So it seems strange that people feel the need to travel to other places in order to do this thing that everyone is freely entitled to do. Everyone is free to wear hats. For someone they don't feel the need to travel to places to march wearing hats. "2) Brighton is a tourist destination. It was built as such, and it depends on tourism." Yes. And stangely having Marchers agressively shouting walking through the streets negatively impacts the tourist experience. Please don't even pretend that the MfE is in any way comparable with the average tourist visiting Brighton. "3) Loving one's country isn't an offence, and it certainly isn't racist in any way." No it isn't. Racist chanting - that's racist. Racist gestures - they're racist. Racist comments - they're racist. Racist literature - that's racist. Racist slogans on clothing or banners - they're racist. If you don't have/do any of the racist things then you aren't exhibiting racism, See how easy it is to not be a racist? "4) Preventing freedom of expression is an offence in the UK." Again you are pointing out things that are not in dispute. However as with all countries this is not an unlimited right - incitement towards illegal activity certainly can be an offence. "5) Many Brighton residents support the rights of patriots to display their patriotism." Really? Perhaps you'd like to somehow evidence that? (And I'm ignoring the weaselly language in your question - I am all for healthy patriotism and national pride but I in no way supprt the MfE - those two things are not in any way comparable or equivalent)[/p][/quote]So I've addressed the major points.[/p][/quote]No, you're confused. You made some (poor) points and *I* addressed them. Check the order in which the text reads - the clue's in that my comments come after yours.[/p][/quote]But you accept that I addressed five major points, whether or not you agreed with my opinion on them? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

4:44pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs - How else was No threat, eh? followed by posting their site supposed to be interpreted? If I said No threats from marchers, eh? Then posted a link to casuals united or another site promoting it the meaning would have been clear.
Describing this as a 'family day out' shows how far from reality you are.
ZeeGee, ffs - How else was No threat, eh? followed by posting their site supposed to be interpreted? If I said No threats from marchers, eh? Then posted a link to casuals united or another site promoting it the meaning would have been clear. Describing this as a 'family day out' shows how far from reality you are. Arrggh
  • Score: 1

4:46pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Ashles says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair
Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.
Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't. Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned? Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?
The MFE is a single event. Do not try and guess what other activities the marchers have participated in during this week of celebrations.
I'm afraid we can only go on what we can observe. No doubt all the Marchers spent this last week organising charity events, helping orphans and Morris Dancing, but all we will actually be able to observe is the March for England. Which, I assume you are agreeing, will consist entirely of walking and shouting. How inspiring. How could anyone watch such a spectacle and fail to feel proud of our National Identity. Every can of lager held will of course magnify the inspiring effect.
So you've realised how stupid you were making assumptions on what the marchers have been doing.
Still baffled eh? I'll make it clearer then so you can understand.

I am making the assumption that the marchers have done NOTHING in the lead up to the march that would constitute a positive St George's Day event.
I am assuming their ENTIRE 'celebration' of St George's Day will consist of this sad and unpleasant little March which will involve only walking and shouting.

You can insinuate or even outright claim that this is not the case. And no-one will believe you.
Because the only actual evidence we have of how these Marchers like to celebrate their 'pride' is in the nature of this March.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair[/p][/quote]Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.[/p][/quote]Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't. Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned? Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?[/p][/quote]The MFE is a single event. Do not try and guess what other activities the marchers have participated in during this week of celebrations.[/p][/quote]I'm afraid we can only go on what we can observe. No doubt all the Marchers spent this last week organising charity events, helping orphans and Morris Dancing, but all we will actually be able to observe is the March for England. Which, I assume you are agreeing, will consist entirely of walking and shouting. How inspiring. How could anyone watch such a spectacle and fail to feel proud of our National Identity. Every can of lager held will of course magnify the inspiring effect.[/p][/quote]So you've realised how stupid you were making assumptions on what the marchers have been doing.[/p][/quote]Still baffled eh? I'll make it clearer then so you can understand. I am making the assumption that the marchers have done NOTHING in the lead up to the march that would constitute a positive St George's Day event. I am assuming their ENTIRE 'celebration' of St George's Day will consist of this sad and unpleasant little March which will involve only walking and shouting. You can insinuate or even outright claim that this is not the case. And no-one will believe you. Because the only actual evidence we have of how these Marchers like to celebrate their 'pride' is in the nature of this March. HTH Ashles
  • Score: 2

4:46pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs - How else was No threat, eh? followed by posting their site supposed to be interpreted? If I said No threats from marchers, eh? Then posted a link to casuals united or another site promoting it the meaning would have been clear.
Describing this as a 'family day out' shows how far from reality you are.
Given your problems with English, I'm not surprised that you have issues with word meanings, but to claim that a word that didn't appear did is a blatant lie, and smacks of desperation on your part.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: ZeeGee, ffs - How else was No threat, eh? followed by posting their site supposed to be interpreted? If I said No threats from marchers, eh? Then posted a link to casuals united or another site promoting it the meaning would have been clear. Describing this as a 'family day out' shows how far from reality you are.[/p][/quote]Given your problems with English, I'm not surprised that you have issues with word meanings, but to claim that a word that didn't appear did is a blatant lie, and smacks of desperation on your part. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

4:48pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair
Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.
Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't. Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned? Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?
The MFE is a single event. Do not try and guess what other activities the marchers have participated in during this week of celebrations.
I'm afraid we can only go on what we can observe. No doubt all the Marchers spent this last week organising charity events, helping orphans and Morris Dancing, but all we will actually be able to observe is the March for England. Which, I assume you are agreeing, will consist entirely of walking and shouting. How inspiring. How could anyone watch such a spectacle and fail to feel proud of our National Identity. Every can of lager held will of course magnify the inspiring effect.
So you've realised how stupid you were making assumptions on what the marchers have been doing.
Still baffled eh? I'll make it clearer then so you can understand.

I am making the assumption that the marchers have done NOTHING in the lead up to the march that would constitute a positive St George's Day event.
I am assuming their ENTIRE 'celebration' of St George's Day will consist of this sad and unpleasant little March which will involve only walking and shouting.

You can insinuate or even outright claim that this is not the case. And no-one will believe you.
Because the only actual evidence we have of how these Marchers like to celebrate their 'pride' is in the nature of this March.

HTH
"I am making the assumption"

So you admit to assuming something without having any evidence to back it up.

That's what constitutes prejudice.....try and avoid it.
[quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair[/p][/quote]Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.[/p][/quote]Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't. Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned? Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?[/p][/quote]The MFE is a single event. Do not try and guess what other activities the marchers have participated in during this week of celebrations.[/p][/quote]I'm afraid we can only go on what we can observe. No doubt all the Marchers spent this last week organising charity events, helping orphans and Morris Dancing, but all we will actually be able to observe is the March for England. Which, I assume you are agreeing, will consist entirely of walking and shouting. How inspiring. How could anyone watch such a spectacle and fail to feel proud of our National Identity. Every can of lager held will of course magnify the inspiring effect.[/p][/quote]So you've realised how stupid you were making assumptions on what the marchers have been doing.[/p][/quote]Still baffled eh? I'll make it clearer then so you can understand. I am making the assumption that the marchers have done NOTHING in the lead up to the march that would constitute a positive St George's Day event. I am assuming their ENTIRE 'celebration' of St George's Day will consist of this sad and unpleasant little March which will involve only walking and shouting. You can insinuate or even outright claim that this is not the case. And no-one will believe you. Because the only actual evidence we have of how these Marchers like to celebrate their 'pride' is in the nature of this March. HTH[/p][/quote]"I am making the assumption" So you admit to assuming something without having any evidence to back it up. That's what constitutes prejudice.....try and avoid it. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

4:50pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Ashles says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote: "1) Anyone is free in England to fly the England flag without fear of intimidation from anyone" Yes they are. Absolutely agree. So it seems strange that people feel the need to travel to other places in order to do this thing that everyone is freely entitled to do. Everyone is free to wear hats. For someone they don't feel the need to travel to places to march wearing hats. "2) Brighton is a tourist destination. It was built as such, and it depends on tourism." Yes. And stangely having Marchers agressively shouting walking through the streets negatively impacts the tourist experience. Please don't even pretend that the MfE is in any way comparable with the average tourist visiting Brighton. "3) Loving one's country isn't an offence, and it certainly isn't racist in any way." No it isn't. Racist chanting - that's racist. Racist gestures - they're racist. Racist comments - they're racist. Racist literature - that's racist. Racist slogans on clothing or banners - they're racist. If you don't have/do any of the racist things then you aren't exhibiting racism, See how easy it is to not be a racist? "4) Preventing freedom of expression is an offence in the UK." Again you are pointing out things that are not in dispute. However as with all countries this is not an unlimited right - incitement towards illegal activity certainly can be an offence. "5) Many Brighton residents support the rights of patriots to display their patriotism." Really? Perhaps you'd like to somehow evidence that? (And I'm ignoring the weaselly language in your question - I am all for healthy patriotism and national pride but I in no way supprt the MfE - those two things are not in any way comparable or equivalent)
So I've addressed the major points.
No, you're confused. You made some (poor) points and *I* addressed them. Check the order in which the text reads - the clue's in that my comments come after yours.
But you accept that I addressed five major points, whether or not you agreed with my opinion on them?
You responded to them. But with irrelevant responses.

So, no I don't consider that you addressed the points any more than if you had written "Tangerines" five times
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: "1) Anyone is free in England to fly the England flag without fear of intimidation from anyone" Yes they are. Absolutely agree. So it seems strange that people feel the need to travel to other places in order to do this thing that everyone is freely entitled to do. Everyone is free to wear hats. For someone they don't feel the need to travel to places to march wearing hats. "2) Brighton is a tourist destination. It was built as such, and it depends on tourism." Yes. And stangely having Marchers agressively shouting walking through the streets negatively impacts the tourist experience. Please don't even pretend that the MfE is in any way comparable with the average tourist visiting Brighton. "3) Loving one's country isn't an offence, and it certainly isn't racist in any way." No it isn't. Racist chanting - that's racist. Racist gestures - they're racist. Racist comments - they're racist. Racist literature - that's racist. Racist slogans on clothing or banners - they're racist. If you don't have/do any of the racist things then you aren't exhibiting racism, See how easy it is to not be a racist? "4) Preventing freedom of expression is an offence in the UK." Again you are pointing out things that are not in dispute. However as with all countries this is not an unlimited right - incitement towards illegal activity certainly can be an offence. "5) Many Brighton residents support the rights of patriots to display their patriotism." Really? Perhaps you'd like to somehow evidence that? (And I'm ignoring the weaselly language in your question - I am all for healthy patriotism and national pride but I in no way supprt the MfE - those two things are not in any way comparable or equivalent)[/p][/quote]So I've addressed the major points.[/p][/quote]No, you're confused. You made some (poor) points and *I* addressed them. Check the order in which the text reads - the clue's in that my comments come after yours.[/p][/quote]But you accept that I addressed five major points, whether or not you agreed with my opinion on them?[/p][/quote]You responded to them. But with irrelevant responses. So, no I don't consider that you addressed the points any more than if you had written "Tangerines" five times Ashles
  • Score: 2

4:51pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Shaddow says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers.

Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.
ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it!

So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF?

Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence.

The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year).

The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble.

The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub.

This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).
I said UAF etc......


Etc means " and the rest"

At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved.

Try reading what you've quoted in future.

HTH
You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?
I was correcting someone who had lied about what I had said. That's something which has happened to you already.

If the UAF ETC didn't turn up, there wouldn't be any confrontations.
If the MfE weren't a bunch of drunken racist homophobic violent hooligans then UAF wouldn't have needed to even make a stand against the continued growing abuse and violence that occurred when MfE came to town.

I remember seeing the first MfE St Georges day march ...there was no counter protest ...then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public still though no counter protest on that year. The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. That year one MfE protester pleaded guilty to assault.

Then of course it was the 'revenge attack' to which the famous Steve Sands was arrested for GBH.

Perhaps if MfE/EDL had remained peaceful ...but then again you're not a peaceful group are you!
So reports were 'heard', and the next year the UAF thugs turned up.
You fancy actually reading what I wrote?

I stated ...The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the (pay attention now as this is the important bit) EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE.

So no the reports of racial and homophobic remarks (which I personally witnessed as I had homophobic remarks thrown at myself whilst walking into town past the demo) were not the core reason for the counter demo. The core reason was to counter the EDL which makes up the majority of MfE!

Still though ...the minute there was a counter demo of any kind MfE showed their true colours and one of their own pleaded guilty to assault ...and the violence has continued ever since.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers. Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it! So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF? Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence. The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year). The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble. The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub. This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).[/p][/quote]I said UAF etc...... Etc means " and the rest" At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved. Try reading what you've quoted in future. HTH[/p][/quote]You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?[/p][/quote]I was correcting someone who had lied about what I had said. That's something which has happened to you already. If the UAF ETC didn't turn up, there wouldn't be any confrontations.[/p][/quote]If the MfE weren't a bunch of drunken racist homophobic violent hooligans then UAF wouldn't have needed to even make a stand against the continued growing abuse and violence that occurred when MfE came to town. I remember seeing the first MfE St Georges day march ...there was no counter protest ...then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public still though no counter protest on that year. The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. That year one MfE protester pleaded guilty to assault. Then of course it was the 'revenge attack' to which the famous Steve Sands was arrested for GBH. Perhaps if MfE/EDL had remained peaceful ...but then again you're not a peaceful group are you![/p][/quote]So reports were 'heard', and the next year the UAF thugs turned up.[/p][/quote]You fancy actually reading what I wrote? I stated ...The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the (pay attention now as this is the important bit) EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. So no the reports of racial and homophobic remarks (which I personally witnessed as I had homophobic remarks thrown at myself whilst walking into town past the demo) were not the core reason for the counter demo. The core reason was to counter the EDL which makes up the majority of MfE! Still though ...the minute there was a counter demo of any kind MfE showed their true colours and one of their own pleaded guilty to assault ...and the violence has continued ever since. Shaddow
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4:52pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs - How else was No threat, eh? followed by posting their site supposed to be interpreted? If I said No threats from marchers, eh? Then posted a link to casuals united or another site promoting it the meaning would have been clear.
Describing this as a 'family day out' shows how far from reality you are.
Given your problems with English, I'm not surprised that you have issues with word meanings, but to claim that a word that didn't appear did is a blatant lie, and smacks of desperation on your part.
You used the word threat and then posted the link- what else did you mean if not the most obvious implication?
Thinking that there were only a hundred true patriots at last years event smacks of desperation to me. Does it not tell you anything if the definition of patriot is so narrow only a hundred turn up?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: ZeeGee, ffs - How else was No threat, eh? followed by posting their site supposed to be interpreted? If I said No threats from marchers, eh? Then posted a link to casuals united or another site promoting it the meaning would have been clear. Describing this as a 'family day out' shows how far from reality you are.[/p][/quote]Given your problems with English, I'm not surprised that you have issues with word meanings, but to claim that a word that didn't appear did is a blatant lie, and smacks of desperation on your part.[/p][/quote]You used the word threat and then posted the link- what else did you mean if not the most obvious implication? Thinking that there were only a hundred true patriots at last years event smacks of desperation to me. Does it not tell you anything if the definition of patriot is so narrow only a hundred turn up? Arrggh
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4:54pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Ashles says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair
Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.
Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't. Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned? Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?
The MFE is a single event. Do not try and guess what other activities the marchers have participated in during this week of celebrations.
I'm afraid we can only go on what we can observe. No doubt all the Marchers spent this last week organising charity events, helping orphans and Morris Dancing, but all we will actually be able to observe is the March for England. Which, I assume you are agreeing, will consist entirely of walking and shouting. How inspiring. How could anyone watch such a spectacle and fail to feel proud of our National Identity. Every can of lager held will of course magnify the inspiring effect.
So you've realised how stupid you were making assumptions on what the marchers have been doing.
Still baffled eh? I'll make it clearer then so you can understand. I am making the assumption that the marchers have done NOTHING in the lead up to the march that would constitute a positive St George's Day event. I am assuming their ENTIRE 'celebration' of St George's Day will consist of this sad and unpleasant little March which will involve only walking and shouting. You can insinuate or even outright claim that this is not the case. And no-one will believe you. Because the only actual evidence we have of how these Marchers like to celebrate their 'pride' is in the nature of this March. HTH
"I am making the assumption" So you admit to assuming something without having any evidence to back it up. That's what constitutes prejudice.....try and avoid it.
Actually that's completely incorrect.

To assume the something doesn't exist/didn't happen in the absence of any evidence for it is in fact an entirely logical position.

And there is evidence FOR the opinion that the Marchers like to celebrate patriotic 'pride' by walking and shouting.

It's funny that you don't understand even the meaning of the word 'prejudice'.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair[/p][/quote]Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.[/p][/quote]Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't. Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned? Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?[/p][/quote]The MFE is a single event. Do not try and guess what other activities the marchers have participated in during this week of celebrations.[/p][/quote]I'm afraid we can only go on what we can observe. No doubt all the Marchers spent this last week organising charity events, helping orphans and Morris Dancing, but all we will actually be able to observe is the March for England. Which, I assume you are agreeing, will consist entirely of walking and shouting. How inspiring. How could anyone watch such a spectacle and fail to feel proud of our National Identity. Every can of lager held will of course magnify the inspiring effect.[/p][/quote]So you've realised how stupid you were making assumptions on what the marchers have been doing.[/p][/quote]Still baffled eh? I'll make it clearer then so you can understand. I am making the assumption that the marchers have done NOTHING in the lead up to the march that would constitute a positive St George's Day event. I am assuming their ENTIRE 'celebration' of St George's Day will consist of this sad and unpleasant little March which will involve only walking and shouting. You can insinuate or even outright claim that this is not the case. And no-one will believe you. Because the only actual evidence we have of how these Marchers like to celebrate their 'pride' is in the nature of this March. HTH[/p][/quote]"I am making the assumption" So you admit to assuming something without having any evidence to back it up. That's what constitutes prejudice.....try and avoid it.[/p][/quote]Actually that's completely incorrect. To assume the something doesn't exist/didn't happen in the absence of any evidence for it is in fact an entirely logical position. And there is evidence FOR the opinion that the Marchers like to celebrate patriotic 'pride' by walking and shouting. It's funny that you don't understand even the meaning of the word 'prejudice'. Ashles
  • Score: 1

4:54pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs - How else was No threat, eh? followed by posting their site supposed to be interpreted? If I said No threats from marchers, eh? Then posted a link to casuals united or another site promoting it the meaning would have been clear.
Describing this as a 'family day out' shows how far from reality you are.
Given your problems with English, I'm not surprised that you have issues with word meanings, but to claim that a word that didn't appear did is a blatant lie, and smacks of desperation on your part.
You used the word threat and then posted the link- what else did you mean if not the most obvious implication?
Thinking that there were only a hundred true patriots at last years event smacks of desperation to me. Does it not tell you anything if the definition of patriot is so narrow only a hundred turn up?
The word in question was 'violence'.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: ZeeGee, ffs - How else was No threat, eh? followed by posting their site supposed to be interpreted? If I said No threats from marchers, eh? Then posted a link to casuals united or another site promoting it the meaning would have been clear. Describing this as a 'family day out' shows how far from reality you are.[/p][/quote]Given your problems with English, I'm not surprised that you have issues with word meanings, but to claim that a word that didn't appear did is a blatant lie, and smacks of desperation on your part.[/p][/quote]You used the word threat and then posted the link- what else did you mean if not the most obvious implication? Thinking that there were only a hundred true patriots at last years event smacks of desperation to me. Does it not tell you anything if the definition of patriot is so narrow only a hundred turn up?[/p][/quote]The word in question was 'violence'. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

4:57pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair
Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.
Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't. Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned? Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?
The MFE is a single event. Do not try and guess what other activities the marchers have participated in during this week of celebrations.
I'm afraid we can only go on what we can observe. No doubt all the Marchers spent this last week organising charity events, helping orphans and Morris Dancing, but all we will actually be able to observe is the March for England. Which, I assume you are agreeing, will consist entirely of walking and shouting. How inspiring. How could anyone watch such a spectacle and fail to feel proud of our National Identity. Every can of lager held will of course magnify the inspiring effect.
So you've realised how stupid you were making assumptions on what the marchers have been doing.
Still baffled eh? I'll make it clearer then so you can understand. I am making the assumption that the marchers have done NOTHING in the lead up to the march that would constitute a positive St George's Day event. I am assuming their ENTIRE 'celebration' of St George's Day will consist of this sad and unpleasant little March which will involve only walking and shouting. You can insinuate or even outright claim that this is not the case. And no-one will believe you. Because the only actual evidence we have of how these Marchers like to celebrate their 'pride' is in the nature of this March. HTH
"I am making the assumption" So you admit to assuming something without having any evidence to back it up. That's what constitutes prejudice.....try and avoid it.
Actually that's completely incorrect.

To assume the something doesn't exist/didn't happen in the absence of any evidence for it is in fact an entirely logical position.

And there is evidence FOR the opinion that the Marchers like to celebrate patriotic 'pride' by walking and shouting.

It's funny that you don't understand even the meaning of the word 'prejudice'.
You stated that you made an assumption.

OED 'assume' - "Suppose to be the case, without proof"

Without proof

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: So these 'patriots' are so deeply proud of their country that they... walk along and shout "Eng-er-land"? That's it? That's the extent of their ability to express pride in their country? (Other than stretching a St George's Cross into a strange curved shape across their expansive bellies) Those children in that other Argus story exhibited a greater understanding of the history and culture of this country. I wonder if you asked the average MfE 'patroit' a few questions about this country (of which they are, you remember, so proud) how well they would be able to answer? it's almost as though they aren't actually expressing 'pride in their country' but more 'hatred for things they don't like' (their own impotent rage at their inabilty to address their own inadequacies seemingly a top contender). I bet they have many stories on subjects like: 'Things I heard about Sharia law...', "The EU wants to ban the pound, the Queen, the Bulldog and London" "My mate got turned away from a factory because he didn't speak polish..." Yet I bet they have very little knowledge on subjects like: The History of England England's place in the politics of the world Great artistic and scientific achievements England has given the world or How to organise a St George's Day fair[/p][/quote]Try not to guess how people celebrate their country. It extends far more than merely chanting England's name.[/p][/quote]Not at the 'March for England' it doesn't. Or does it? Do tell? Has the March got other events planned? Please let us know if the March for England has more planned than walking and shouting?[/p][/quote]The MFE is a single event. Do not try and guess what other activities the marchers have participated in during this week of celebrations.[/p][/quote]I'm afraid we can only go on what we can observe. No doubt all the Marchers spent this last week organising charity events, helping orphans and Morris Dancing, but all we will actually be able to observe is the March for England. Which, I assume you are agreeing, will consist entirely of walking and shouting. How inspiring. How could anyone watch such a spectacle and fail to feel proud of our National Identity. Every can of lager held will of course magnify the inspiring effect.[/p][/quote]So you've realised how stupid you were making assumptions on what the marchers have been doing.[/p][/quote]Still baffled eh? I'll make it clearer then so you can understand. I am making the assumption that the marchers have done NOTHING in the lead up to the march that would constitute a positive St George's Day event. I am assuming their ENTIRE 'celebration' of St George's Day will consist of this sad and unpleasant little March which will involve only walking and shouting. You can insinuate or even outright claim that this is not the case. And no-one will believe you. Because the only actual evidence we have of how these Marchers like to celebrate their 'pride' is in the nature of this March. HTH[/p][/quote]"I am making the assumption" So you admit to assuming something without having any evidence to back it up. That's what constitutes prejudice.....try and avoid it.[/p][/quote]Actually that's completely incorrect. To assume the something doesn't exist/didn't happen in the absence of any evidence for it is in fact an entirely logical position. And there is evidence FOR the opinion that the Marchers like to celebrate patriotic 'pride' by walking and shouting. It's funny that you don't understand even the meaning of the word 'prejudice'.[/p][/quote]You stated that you made an assumption. OED 'assume' - "Suppose to be the case, without proof" Without proof HTH ZeeGee, ffs
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4:58pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs - How else was No threat, eh? followed by posting their site supposed to be interpreted? If I said No threats from marchers, eh? Then posted a link to casuals united or another site promoting it the meaning would have been clear.
Describing this as a 'family day out' shows how far from reality you are.
Given your problems with English, I'm not surprised that you have issues with word meanings, but to claim that a word that didn't appear did is a blatant lie, and smacks of desperation on your part.
You used the word threat and then posted the link- what else did you mean if not the most obvious implication?
Thinking that there were only a hundred true patriots at last years event smacks of desperation to me. Does it not tell you anything if the definition of patriot is so narrow only a hundred turn up?
The word in question was 'violence'.

HTH
What other kind of threat did you have in mind? A heated discussion?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: ZeeGee, ffs - How else was No threat, eh? followed by posting their site supposed to be interpreted? If I said No threats from marchers, eh? Then posted a link to casuals united or another site promoting it the meaning would have been clear. Describing this as a 'family day out' shows how far from reality you are.[/p][/quote]Given your problems with English, I'm not surprised that you have issues with word meanings, but to claim that a word that didn't appear did is a blatant lie, and smacks of desperation on your part.[/p][/quote]You used the word threat and then posted the link- what else did you mean if not the most obvious implication? Thinking that there were only a hundred true patriots at last years event smacks of desperation to me. Does it not tell you anything if the definition of patriot is so narrow only a hundred turn up?[/p][/quote]The word in question was 'violence'. HTH[/p][/quote]What other kind of threat did you have in mind? A heated discussion? Arrggh
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5:00pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers.

Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.
ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it!

So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF?

Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence.

The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year).

The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble.

The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub.

This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).
I said UAF etc......


Etc means " and the rest"

At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved.

Try reading what you've quoted in future.

HTH
You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?
I was correcting someone who had lied about what I had said. That's something which has happened to you already.

If the UAF ETC didn't turn up, there wouldn't be any confrontations.
If the MfE weren't a bunch of drunken racist homophobic violent hooligans then UAF wouldn't have needed to even make a stand against the continued growing abuse and violence that occurred when MfE came to town.

I remember seeing the first MfE St Georges day march ...there was no counter protest ...then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public still though no counter protest on that year. The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. That year one MfE protester pleaded guilty to assault.

Then of course it was the 'revenge attack' to which the famous Steve Sands was arrested for GBH.

Perhaps if MfE/EDL had remained peaceful ...but then again you're not a peaceful group are you!
So reports were 'heard', and the next year the UAF thugs turned up.
You fancy actually reading what I wrote?

I stated ...The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the (pay attention now as this is the important bit) EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE.

So no the reports of racial and homophobic remarks (which I personally witnessed as I had homophobic remarks thrown at myself whilst walking into town past the demo) were not the core reason for the counter demo. The core reason was to counter the EDL which makes up the majority of MfE!

Still though ...the minute there was a counter demo of any kind MfE showed their true colours and one of their own pleaded guilty to assault ...and the violence has continued ever since.
You wrote:

"then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public"

So I obviously read what you'd written, because I quoted and commented upon it.

"So no the reports of racial and homophobic remarks (which I personally witnessed as..."

Make your mind up! You either witnessed the acts or you heard about them, lol.

Come back to us when you've got your story straight.
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers. Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it! So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF? Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence. The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year). The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble. The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub. This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).[/p][/quote]I said UAF etc...... Etc means " and the rest" At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved. Try reading what you've quoted in future. HTH[/p][/quote]You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?[/p][/quote]I was correcting someone who had lied about what I had said. That's something which has happened to you already. If the UAF ETC didn't turn up, there wouldn't be any confrontations.[/p][/quote]If the MfE weren't a bunch of drunken racist homophobic violent hooligans then UAF wouldn't have needed to even make a stand against the continued growing abuse and violence that occurred when MfE came to town. I remember seeing the first MfE St Georges day march ...there was no counter protest ...then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public still though no counter protest on that year. The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. That year one MfE protester pleaded guilty to assault. Then of course it was the 'revenge attack' to which the famous Steve Sands was arrested for GBH. Perhaps if MfE/EDL had remained peaceful ...but then again you're not a peaceful group are you![/p][/quote]So reports were 'heard', and the next year the UAF thugs turned up.[/p][/quote]You fancy actually reading what I wrote? I stated ...The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the (pay attention now as this is the important bit) EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. So no the reports of racial and homophobic remarks (which I personally witnessed as I had homophobic remarks thrown at myself whilst walking into town past the demo) were not the core reason for the counter demo. The core reason was to counter the EDL which makes up the majority of MfE! Still though ...the minute there was a counter demo of any kind MfE showed their true colours and one of their own pleaded guilty to assault ...and the violence has continued ever since.[/p][/quote]You wrote: "then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public" So I obviously read what you'd written, because I quoted and commented upon it. "So no the reports of racial and homophobic remarks (which I personally witnessed as..." Make your mind up! You either witnessed the acts or you heard about them, lol. Come back to us when you've got your story straight. ZeeGee, ffs
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5:01pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs - posted by you at 6.48 yesterday- 'I posted evidence that sharia law is already operating in this country.
It's on the other thread.
And which bit of that sentence states that sharia has been incorporated into English law?
another quote- It means that the sharia position on gender discrimination will be upheld IN BRITISH COURTS, despite UK law holding females to be equal to males.
A fundamental misunderstanding of the current legal position which you stuck to through several replies.
Which means that the sharia position differs from that of English law.

It therefore isn't incorporated or even part of English law.

Now quit lying about what I'm alleged to have said.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs - posted by you at 6.48 yesterday- 'I posted evidence that sharia law is already operating in this country. It's on the other thread.[/p][/quote]And which bit of that sentence states that sharia has been incorporated into English law?[/p][/quote]another quote- It means that the sharia position on gender discrimination will be upheld IN BRITISH COURTS, despite UK law holding females to be equal to males. A fundamental misunderstanding of the current legal position which you stuck to through several replies.[/p][/quote]Which means that the sharia position differs from that of English law. It therefore isn't incorporated or even part of English law. Now quit lying about what I'm alleged to have said. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

5:02pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs - How else was No threat, eh? followed by posting their site supposed to be interpreted? If I said No threats from marchers, eh? Then posted a link to casuals united or another site promoting it the meaning would have been clear.
Describing this as a 'family day out' shows how far from reality you are.
Given your problems with English, I'm not surprised that you have issues with word meanings, but to claim that a word that didn't appear did is a blatant lie, and smacks of desperation on your part.
You used the word threat and then posted the link- what else did you mean if not the most obvious implication?
Thinking that there were only a hundred true patriots at last years event smacks of desperation to me. Does it not tell you anything if the definition of patriot is so narrow only a hundred turn up?
The word in question was 'violence'.

HTH
What other kind of threat did you have in mind? A heated discussion?
So you accept that the word 'violence' wasn't involved.

This AFTER you claimed that I had said that it was.

I suggest you quit lying.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: ZeeGee, ffs - How else was No threat, eh? followed by posting their site supposed to be interpreted? If I said No threats from marchers, eh? Then posted a link to casuals united or another site promoting it the meaning would have been clear. Describing this as a 'family day out' shows how far from reality you are.[/p][/quote]Given your problems with English, I'm not surprised that you have issues with word meanings, but to claim that a word that didn't appear did is a blatant lie, and smacks of desperation on your part.[/p][/quote]You used the word threat and then posted the link- what else did you mean if not the most obvious implication? Thinking that there were only a hundred true patriots at last years event smacks of desperation to me. Does it not tell you anything if the definition of patriot is so narrow only a hundred turn up?[/p][/quote]The word in question was 'violence'. HTH[/p][/quote]What other kind of threat did you have in mind? A heated discussion?[/p][/quote]So you accept that the word 'violence' wasn't involved. This AFTER you claimed that I had said that it was. I suggest you quit lying. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
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5:03pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Ashles says...

"You stated that you made an assumption.

OED 'assume' - "Suppose to be the case, without proof"

Yes that's right.
It's called how scepticism works. Scepticism towards claims you believe are untrue.

Why, do you automatically believe everything you are told?

(Come to think of it - that could explain a few of the Marchers. Imagine being so stupid as to believe without question or critical thinking every single thing you're told or read in the tabloids...)
"You stated that you made an assumption. OED 'assume' - "Suppose to be the case, without proof" Yes that's right. It's called how scepticism works. Scepticism towards claims you believe are untrue. Why, do you automatically believe everything you are told? (Come to think of it - that could explain a few of the Marchers. Imagine being so stupid as to believe without question or critical thinking every single thing you're told or read in the tabloids...) Ashles
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5:05pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Ashles wrote:
"You stated that you made an assumption.

OED 'assume' - "Suppose to be the case, without proof"

Yes that's right.
It's called how scepticism works. Scepticism towards claims you believe are untrue.

Why, do you automatically believe everything you are told?

(Come to think of it - that could explain a few of the Marchers. Imagine being so stupid as to believe without question or critical thinking every single thing you're told or read in the tabloids...)
So now you're upset that someone has discussed you admitting to have made an assumption.

Diddums.
[quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: "You stated that you made an assumption. OED 'assume' - "Suppose to be the case, without proof" Yes that's right. It's called how scepticism works. Scepticism towards claims you believe are untrue. Why, do you automatically believe everything you are told? (Come to think of it - that could explain a few of the Marchers. Imagine being so stupid as to believe without question or critical thinking every single thing you're told or read in the tabloids...)[/p][/quote]So now you're upset that someone has discussed you admitting to have made an assumption. Diddums. ZeeGee, ffs
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5:09pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Zeegee- if you've changed your position on whether or not Sharia is in force in this country since yesterday I'm happy for the change of heart.
I didn't claim you used the word but the clear implication- otherwise what did you mean by threats? Oh and yes you're a liar who has a tantrum when they're caught out.
Zeegee- if you've changed your position on whether or not Sharia is in force in this country since yesterday I'm happy for the change of heart. I didn't claim you used the word but the clear implication- otherwise what did you mean by threats? Oh and yes you're a liar who has a tantrum when they're caught out. Arrggh
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5:12pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Ashles says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote: "You stated that you made an assumption. OED 'assume' - "Suppose to be the case, without proof" Yes that's right. It's called how scepticism works. Scepticism towards claims you believe are untrue. Why, do you automatically believe everything you are told? (Come to think of it - that could explain a few of the Marchers. Imagine being so stupid as to believe without question or critical thinking every single thing you're told or read in the tabloids...)
So now you're upset that someone has discussed you admitting to have made an assumption. Diddums.
It must be bizarre to read words and interpret them entirely differently to what is actually written.
Again could explain a lot...

It's also painfully transparent how you are trying to change the subject from what it was - that the Marchers did not appear interested in expressing their 'National Pride' in the more normal methods of fairs, events and community activites, but preferred instead to simply go on a walk and shout.

You made vague implications (apparently didn't even have the confidence to outright claim) that the marchers may have done other things in the lead-up.
I pointed out that without any evidence towards this it was entirely reasonable for me to assume this was not the case.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: "You stated that you made an assumption. OED 'assume' - "Suppose to be the case, without proof" Yes that's right. It's called how scepticism works. Scepticism towards claims you believe are untrue. Why, do you automatically believe everything you are told? (Come to think of it - that could explain a few of the Marchers. Imagine being so stupid as to believe without question or critical thinking every single thing you're told or read in the tabloids...)[/p][/quote]So now you're upset that someone has discussed you admitting to have made an assumption. Diddums.[/p][/quote]It must be bizarre to read words and interpret them entirely differently to what is actually written. Again could explain a lot... It's also painfully transparent how you are trying to change the subject from what it was - that the Marchers did not appear interested in expressing their 'National Pride' in the more normal methods of fairs, events and community activites, but preferred instead to simply go on a walk and shout. You made vague implications (apparently didn't even have the confidence to outright claim) that the marchers may have done other things in the lead-up. I pointed out that without any evidence towards this it was entirely reasonable for me to assume this was not the case. Ashles
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5:16pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Ashles wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Ashles wrote: "You stated that you made an assumption. OED 'assume' - "Suppose to be the case, without proof" Yes that's right. It's called how scepticism works. Scepticism towards claims you believe are untrue. Why, do you automatically believe everything you are told? (Come to think of it - that could explain a few of the Marchers. Imagine being so stupid as to believe without question or critical thinking every single thing you're told or read in the tabloids...)
So now you're upset that someone has discussed you admitting to have made an assumption. Diddums.
It must be bizarre to read words and interpret them entirely differently to what is actually written.
Again could explain a lot...

It's also painfully transparent how you are trying to change the subject from what it was - that the Marchers did not appear interested in expressing their 'National Pride' in the more normal methods of fairs, events and community activites, but preferred instead to simply go on a walk and shout.

You made vague implications (apparently didn't even have the confidence to outright claim) that the marchers may have done other things in the lead-up.
I pointed out that without any evidence towards this it was entirely reasonable for me to assume this was not the case.
The one admitting to making assumptions about the marchers' conduct surrounding the celebrations was YOU.

You admitted doing so, remember?

I quoted you admitting doing so, remember?

You can wriggle all you like, but the facts of the matter won't alter.

"the Marchers did not appear interested in expressing their 'National Pride' in the more normal methods of fairs, events and community activites"

They were on a march. Do you really expect them to set up a fair on the promenade? Jeez.....
[quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: "You stated that you made an assumption. OED 'assume' - "Suppose to be the case, without proof" Yes that's right. It's called how scepticism works. Scepticism towards claims you believe are untrue. Why, do you automatically believe everything you are told? (Come to think of it - that could explain a few of the Marchers. Imagine being so stupid as to believe without question or critical thinking every single thing you're told or read in the tabloids...)[/p][/quote]So now you're upset that someone has discussed you admitting to have made an assumption. Diddums.[/p][/quote]It must be bizarre to read words and interpret them entirely differently to what is actually written. Again could explain a lot... It's also painfully transparent how you are trying to change the subject from what it was - that the Marchers did not appear interested in expressing their 'National Pride' in the more normal methods of fairs, events and community activites, but preferred instead to simply go on a walk and shout. You made vague implications (apparently didn't even have the confidence to outright claim) that the marchers may have done other things in the lead-up. I pointed out that without any evidence towards this it was entirely reasonable for me to assume this was not the case.[/p][/quote]The one admitting to making assumptions about the marchers' conduct surrounding the celebrations was YOU. You admitted doing so, remember? I quoted you admitting doing so, remember? You can wriggle all you like, but the facts of the matter won't alter. "the Marchers did not appear interested in expressing their 'National Pride' in the more normal methods of fairs, events and community activites" They were on a march. Do you really expect them to set up a fair on the promenade? Jeez..... ZeeGee, ffs
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5:18pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee- if you've changed your position on whether or not Sharia is in force in this country since yesterday I'm happy for the change of heart.
I didn't claim you used the word but the clear implication- otherwise what did you mean by threats? Oh and yes you're a liar who has a tantrum when they're caught out.
My position hasn't altered.

Sharia law exists in this country.

Sharia law is separate English law.

English law is used in the English courts system.

Aspects of sharia law are superior to English law in certain cases.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee- if you've changed your position on whether or not Sharia is in force in this country since yesterday I'm happy for the change of heart. I didn't claim you used the word but the clear implication- otherwise what did you mean by threats? Oh and yes you're a liar who has a tantrum when they're caught out.[/p][/quote]My position hasn't altered. Sharia law exists in this country. Sharia law is separate English law. English law is used in the English courts system. Aspects of sharia law are superior to English law in certain cases. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
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5:23pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee- if you've changed your position on whether or not Sharia is in force in this country since yesterday I'm happy for the change of heart.
I didn't claim you used the word but the clear implication- otherwise what did you mean by threats? Oh and yes you're a liar who has a tantrum when they're caught out.
My position hasn't altered.

Sharia law exists in this country.

Sharia law is separate English law.

English law is used in the English courts system.

Aspects of sharia law are superior to English law in certain cases.

HTH
Sharia law can only be superior to English law if it has official recognition as legally applicable within the UK. It isn't and I can't help it if the sentence- 'at any point of conflict between it and British law the current situation maintains that British law is supreme.' is too difficult for you to understand.
Sharia has no more legal standing than rabbinical law in the Beth Din courts.
The only example you were able to cite simply recognised another countries jurisdiction over property there.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee- if you've changed your position on whether or not Sharia is in force in this country since yesterday I'm happy for the change of heart. I didn't claim you used the word but the clear implication- otherwise what did you mean by threats? Oh and yes you're a liar who has a tantrum when they're caught out.[/p][/quote]My position hasn't altered. Sharia law exists in this country. Sharia law is separate English law. English law is used in the English courts system. Aspects of sharia law are superior to English law in certain cases. HTH[/p][/quote]Sharia law can only be superior to English law if it has official recognition as legally applicable within the UK. It isn't and I can't help it if the sentence- 'at any point of conflict between it and British law the current situation maintains that British law is supreme.' is too difficult for you to understand. Sharia has no more legal standing than rabbinical law in the Beth Din courts. The only example you were able to cite simply recognised another countries jurisdiction over property there. Arrggh
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5:33pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Shaddow says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers.

Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.
ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it!

So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF?

Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence.

The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year).

The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble.

The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub.

This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).
I said UAF etc......


Etc means " and the rest"

At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved.

Try reading what you've quoted in future.

HTH
You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?
I was correcting someone who had lied about what I had said. That's something which has happened to you already.

If the UAF ETC didn't turn up, there wouldn't be any confrontations.
If the MfE weren't a bunch of drunken racist homophobic violent hooligans then UAF wouldn't have needed to even make a stand against the continued growing abuse and violence that occurred when MfE came to town.

I remember seeing the first MfE St Georges day march ...there was no counter protest ...then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public still though no counter protest on that year. The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. That year one MfE protester pleaded guilty to assault.

Then of course it was the 'revenge attack' to which the famous Steve Sands was arrested for GBH.

Perhaps if MfE/EDL had remained peaceful ...but then again you're not a peaceful group are you!
So reports were 'heard', and the next year the UAF thugs turned up.
You fancy actually reading what I wrote?

I stated ...The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the (pay attention now as this is the important bit) EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE.

So no the reports of racial and homophobic remarks (which I personally witnessed as I had homophobic remarks thrown at myself whilst walking into town past the demo) were not the core reason for the counter demo. The core reason was to counter the EDL which makes up the majority of MfE!

Still though ...the minute there was a counter demo of any kind MfE showed their true colours and one of their own pleaded guilty to assault ...and the violence has continued ever since.
You wrote:

"then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public"

So I obviously read what you'd written, because I quoted and commented upon it.

"So no the reports of racial and homophobic remarks (which I personally witnessed as..."

Make your mind up! You either witnessed the acts or you heard about them, lol.

Come back to us when you've got your story straight.
Oh the story is quite straight ...it's just your missing the ability to actually read it.

How about I put simplify it for you ...

The core reason why UAF opposed MfE TWO YEARS after they started marching was due to the EDL involvement with MfE.

The previous two years had no counter demo. The first year was because MfE were given the benefit of the doubt. The second year there was also no counter demo but after that march there were reports of homophobic and racist abuse directed towards members of the public. I was walking to town that day and can state that homophobic abuse was directed towards me. I stopped a passing officer and reported this to him before continuing with my journey ...what he did with that information I don't know.

I did witness the abuse but the protesters who opposed you back in 2010 had only heard reports ...and by reports I mean what was printed in the Argus in 2009.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers. Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it! So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF? Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence. The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year). The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble. The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub. This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).[/p][/quote]I said UAF etc...... Etc means " and the rest" At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved. Try reading what you've quoted in future. HTH[/p][/quote]You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?[/p][/quote]I was correcting someone who had lied about what I had said. That's something which has happened to you already. If the UAF ETC didn't turn up, there wouldn't be any confrontations.[/p][/quote]If the MfE weren't a bunch of drunken racist homophobic violent hooligans then UAF wouldn't have needed to even make a stand against the continued growing abuse and violence that occurred when MfE came to town. I remember seeing the first MfE St Georges day march ...there was no counter protest ...then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public still though no counter protest on that year. The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. That year one MfE protester pleaded guilty to assault. Then of course it was the 'revenge attack' to which the famous Steve Sands was arrested for GBH. Perhaps if MfE/EDL had remained peaceful ...but then again you're not a peaceful group are you![/p][/quote]So reports were 'heard', and the next year the UAF thugs turned up.[/p][/quote]You fancy actually reading what I wrote? I stated ...The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the (pay attention now as this is the important bit) EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. So no the reports of racial and homophobic remarks (which I personally witnessed as I had homophobic remarks thrown at myself whilst walking into town past the demo) were not the core reason for the counter demo. The core reason was to counter the EDL which makes up the majority of MfE! Still though ...the minute there was a counter demo of any kind MfE showed their true colours and one of their own pleaded guilty to assault ...and the violence has continued ever since.[/p][/quote]You wrote: "then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public" So I obviously read what you'd written, because I quoted and commented upon it. "So no the reports of racial and homophobic remarks (which I personally witnessed as..." Make your mind up! You either witnessed the acts or you heard about them, lol. Come back to us when you've got your story straight.[/p][/quote]Oh the story is quite straight ...it's just your missing the ability to actually read it. How about I put simplify it for you ... The core reason why UAF opposed MfE TWO YEARS after they started marching was due to the EDL involvement with MfE. The previous two years had no counter demo. The first year was because MfE were given the benefit of the doubt. The second year there was also no counter demo but after that march there were reports of homophobic and racist abuse directed towards members of the public. I was walking to town that day and can state that homophobic abuse was directed towards me. I stopped a passing officer and reported this to him before continuing with my journey ...what he did with that information I don't know. I did witness the abuse but the protesters who opposed you back in 2010 had only heard reports ...and by reports I mean what was printed in the Argus in 2009. Shaddow
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6:08pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers.

Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.
ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it!

So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF?

Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence.

The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year).

The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble.

The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub.

This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).
I said UAF etc......


Etc means " and the rest"

At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved.

Try reading what you've quoted in future.

HTH
You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?
I was correcting someone who had lied about what I had said. That's something which has happened to you already.

If the UAF ETC didn't turn up, there wouldn't be any confrontations.
If the MfE weren't a bunch of drunken racist homophobic violent hooligans then UAF wouldn't have needed to even make a stand against the continued growing abuse and violence that occurred when MfE came to town.

I remember seeing the first MfE St Georges day march ...there was no counter protest ...then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public still though no counter protest on that year. The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. That year one MfE protester pleaded guilty to assault.

Then of course it was the 'revenge attack' to which the famous Steve Sands was arrested for GBH.

Perhaps if MfE/EDL had remained peaceful ...but then again you're not a peaceful group are you!
So reports were 'heard', and the next year the UAF thugs turned up.
You fancy actually reading what I wrote?

I stated ...The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the (pay attention now as this is the important bit) EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE.

So no the reports of racial and homophobic remarks (which I personally witnessed as I had homophobic remarks thrown at myself whilst walking into town past the demo) were not the core reason for the counter demo. The core reason was to counter the EDL which makes up the majority of MfE!

Still though ...the minute there was a counter demo of any kind MfE showed their true colours and one of their own pleaded guilty to assault ...and the violence has continued ever since.
You wrote:

"then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public"

So I obviously read what you'd written, because I quoted and commented upon it.

"So no the reports of racial and homophobic remarks (which I personally witnessed as..."

Make your mind up! You either witnessed the acts or you heard about them, lol.

Come back to us when you've got your story straight.
Oh the story is quite straight ...it's just your missing the ability to actually read it.

How about I put simplify it for you ...

The core reason why UAF opposed MfE TWO YEARS after they started marching was due to the EDL involvement with MfE.

The previous two years had no counter demo. The first year was because MfE were given the benefit of the doubt. The second year there was also no counter demo but after that march there were reports of homophobic and racist abuse directed towards members of the public. I was walking to town that day and can state that homophobic abuse was directed towards me. I stopped a passing officer and reported this to him before continuing with my journey ...what he did with that information I don't know.

I did witness the abuse but the protesters who opposed you back in 2010 had only heard reports ...and by reports I mean what was printed in the Argus in 2009.
The officer probably told you to grow a pair.
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble, the police wouldn't even be required in such numbers. Funny how you're attacking those who have a right to freely travel in their own country expressing their love of the country yet openly supporting the actions of those who are also travelling down to Brighton in order to cause trouble.[/p][/quote]ZeeGee ffs ....now I know why you have the ffs after your name ...it's to save the rest of us from uttering it! So this is all down to the UAF is it?...even though the UAF are a small group who are largely outnumbered by Brighton residents! Or are you just going by the fact that anyone opposing you is indeed UAF? Granted over the past few years there has been violence from both sides and innocent people have got hurt because of it. I'm just as much against the left using violence as I am against the right using violence. The problem is though that the violence was actually started by the right and unfortunately some of those on the left thought to fight fire with fire and didn't for one minute think that it would create a cycle of violence (I think they were hoping you guys would back down and stop coming to Brighton ....instead right wing groups just issue the same revenge warnings each and every year). The reason why a counter demo was set up to begin with was because of racist and homophobic abuse being thrown by those under the MfE banner. Then later confirmed reports regarding groups of MfE prowling around St James St looking to cause trouble. The MfE drunken violent idiots are a disgrace to this country! I love my country hence why I celebrated St Georges day in the way intended ...with my community ...supporting my community as well as the local pub. We had flags ...we had morris dancers ...we had kids events ...we had fun and not one single act of violence was committed. Not one single racist or homophobic remark was shouted as those that passed by the pub. This isn't you loving your country and showing love for you country ...this is you getting drunk and promoting violence on the day...and then continuing to promote violence via social media all the year round hoping that more drunken violent idiots will join you the following year (which never actually happens ...your numbers are becoming less and less, whilst more Brighton residents are taking to the streets to oppose you).[/p][/quote]I said UAF etc...... Etc means " and the rest" At no point have I stated that ONLY UAF are involved. Try reading what you've quoted in future. HTH[/p][/quote]You stated quite clearly that...and I quote 'If the UAF etc didn't turn up looking for trouble' ....the problem is the UAF et al did not turn up looking for trouble ...MfE and EDL turned up in Brighton looking for trouble ...so instead of trying to deflect why don't you answer those points that have been put across by myself and others?[/p][/quote]I was correcting someone who had lied about what I had said. That's something which has happened to you already. If the UAF ETC didn't turn up, there wouldn't be any confrontations.[/p][/quote]If the MfE weren't a bunch of drunken racist homophobic violent hooligans then UAF wouldn't have needed to even make a stand against the continued growing abuse and violence that occurred when MfE came to town. I remember seeing the first MfE St Georges day march ...there was no counter protest ...then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public still though no counter protest on that year. The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. That year one MfE protester pleaded guilty to assault. Then of course it was the 'revenge attack' to which the famous Steve Sands was arrested for GBH. Perhaps if MfE/EDL had remained peaceful ...but then again you're not a peaceful group are you![/p][/quote]So reports were 'heard', and the next year the UAF thugs turned up.[/p][/quote]You fancy actually reading what I wrote? I stated ...The year after though the UAF put on an event to counter the (pay attention now as this is the important bit) EDL which it seemed was the driving force behind MfE. So no the reports of racial and homophobic remarks (which I personally witnessed as I had homophobic remarks thrown at myself whilst walking into town past the demo) were not the core reason for the counter demo. The core reason was to counter the EDL which makes up the majority of MfE! Still though ...the minute there was a counter demo of any kind MfE showed their true colours and one of their own pleaded guilty to assault ...and the violence has continued ever since.[/p][/quote]You wrote: "then the following year we started hearing reports of racist and homophobic abuse being shouted at the public" So I obviously read what you'd written, because I quoted and commented upon it. "So no the reports of racial and homophobic remarks (which I personally witnessed as..." Make your mind up! You either witnessed the acts or you heard about them, lol. Come back to us when you've got your story straight.[/p][/quote]Oh the story is quite straight ...it's just your missing the ability to actually read it. How about I put simplify it for you ... The core reason why UAF opposed MfE TWO YEARS after they started marching was due to the EDL involvement with MfE. The previous two years had no counter demo. The first year was because MfE were given the benefit of the doubt. The second year there was also no counter demo but after that march there were reports of homophobic and racist abuse directed towards members of the public. I was walking to town that day and can state that homophobic abuse was directed towards me. I stopped a passing officer and reported this to him before continuing with my journey ...what he did with that information I don't know. I did witness the abuse but the protesters who opposed you back in 2010 had only heard reports ...and by reports I mean what was printed in the Argus in 2009.[/p][/quote]The officer probably told you to grow a pair. ZeeGee, ffs
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6:17pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee- if you've changed your position on whether or not Sharia is in force in this country since yesterday I'm happy for the change of heart.
I didn't claim you used the word but the clear implication- otherwise what did you mean by threats? Oh and yes you're a liar who has a tantrum when they're caught out.
My position hasn't altered.

Sharia law exists in this country.

Sharia law is separate English law.

English law is used in the English courts system.

Aspects of sharia law are superior to English law in certain cases.

HTH
Sharia law can only be superior to English law if it has official recognition as legally applicable within the UK. It isn't and I can't help it if the sentence- 'at any point of conflict between it and British law the current situation maintains that British law is supreme.' is too difficult for you to understand.
Sharia has no more legal standing than rabbinical law in the Beth Din courts.
The only example you were able to cite simply recognised another countries jurisdiction over property there.
"The only example you were able to cite simply recognised another countries jurisdiction over property there."

No, my example didn't relate to a country's jurisdiction over property within its borders. Have you ever tried following what someone has said, instead of making stupid and false statements relating to their comments?

The example I gave related to a will drawn up in the UK relating to property owned by a deceased person which wasn't specifically mentioned in that will. Sharia rules on heirness would therefore apply IF stated in the will, regardless of whether or not the country operated under a sharia system.

The comment "at any point of conflict between it and British law the current situation maintains that British law is supreme" doesn't appear on a Law Society website, as far as I can tell, but it is irrelevant because:

http://www.lawsociet
y.org.uk/advice/prac
tice-notes/sharia-su
ccession-rules/#shar
ia2

states:

"This means the English court will recognise the forced heirship requirements of a Sharia country if those apply to the moveable assets due to the deceased's domicile."

Note that the sharia system is recognised as not being that of England, so sharia isn't incorporated into English law, as you keep insisting that I've claimed.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee- if you've changed your position on whether or not Sharia is in force in this country since yesterday I'm happy for the change of heart. I didn't claim you used the word but the clear implication- otherwise what did you mean by threats? Oh and yes you're a liar who has a tantrum when they're caught out.[/p][/quote]My position hasn't altered. Sharia law exists in this country. Sharia law is separate English law. English law is used in the English courts system. Aspects of sharia law are superior to English law in certain cases. HTH[/p][/quote]Sharia law can only be superior to English law if it has official recognition as legally applicable within the UK. It isn't and I can't help it if the sentence- 'at any point of conflict between it and British law the current situation maintains that British law is supreme.' is too difficult for you to understand. Sharia has no more legal standing than rabbinical law in the Beth Din courts. The only example you were able to cite simply recognised another countries jurisdiction over property there.[/p][/quote]"The only example you were able to cite simply recognised another countries jurisdiction over property there." No, my example didn't relate to a country's jurisdiction over property within its borders. Have you ever tried following what someone has said, instead of making stupid and false statements relating to their comments? The example I gave related to a will drawn up in the UK relating to property owned by a deceased person which wasn't specifically mentioned in that will. Sharia rules on heirness would therefore apply IF stated in the will, regardless of whether or not the country operated under a sharia system. The comment "at any point of conflict between it and British law the current situation maintains that British law is supreme" doesn't appear on a Law Society website, as far as I can tell, but it is irrelevant because: http://www.lawsociet y.org.uk/advice/prac tice-notes/sharia-su ccession-rules/#shar ia2 states: "This means the English court will recognise the forced heirship requirements of a Sharia country if those apply to the moveable assets due to the deceased's domicile." Note that the sharia system is recognised as not being that of England, so sharia isn't incorporated into English law, as you keep insisting that I've claimed. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
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6:17pm Fri 25 Apr 14

lee paul says...

In the article above it says;
"The hole is located where nationalists are due to congregate ahead of the march on Sunday."

I would take issue with the use of the term 'nationalists' to describe the marchers. I remember a couple of years ago walking through town and stumbling across these people marching and them shouting racial abuse at someone and the police sheparding them ignoring it.

They should be banned from marching because it intimidates local people, and as far as I'm concerned I am very proud to live in a multicultural country and a liberal city.
In the article above it says; "The hole is located where nationalists are due to congregate ahead of the march on Sunday." I would take issue with the use of the term 'nationalists' to describe the marchers. I remember a couple of years ago walking through town and stumbling across these people marching and them shouting racial abuse at someone and the police sheparding them ignoring it. They should be banned from marching because it intimidates local people, and as far as I'm concerned I am very proud to live in a multicultural country and a liberal city. lee paul
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6:21pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

FC wrote:
Don't change the route. Let them take their chances.
What chances?
[quote][p][bold]FC[/bold] wrote: Don't change the route. Let them take their chances.[/p][/quote]What chances? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

6:24pm Fri 25 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

lee paul wrote:
In the article above it says;
"The hole is located where nationalists are due to congregate ahead of the march on Sunday."

I would take issue with the use of the term 'nationalists' to describe the marchers. I remember a couple of years ago walking through town and stumbling across these people marching and them shouting racial abuse at someone and the police sheparding them ignoring it.

They should be banned from marching because it intimidates local people, and as far as I'm concerned I am very proud to live in a multicultural country and a liberal city.
Well, the OED definition fits many of the marchers quite well, so don't be upset by the use of the term.

Obviously some people in Brighton aren't liberal, because they make comments like "They should be banned from marching"

The marchers aren't there to intimidate anyone, and if you feel threatened by their presence, you are free to enjoy the rest of the city without even knowing that they are around.
[quote][p][bold]lee paul[/bold] wrote: In the article above it says; "The hole is located where nationalists are due to congregate ahead of the march on Sunday." I would take issue with the use of the term 'nationalists' to describe the marchers. I remember a couple of years ago walking through town and stumbling across these people marching and them shouting racial abuse at someone and the police sheparding them ignoring it. They should be banned from marching because it intimidates local people, and as far as I'm concerned I am very proud to live in a multicultural country and a liberal city.[/p][/quote]Well, the OED definition fits many of the marchers quite well, so don't be upset by the use of the term. Obviously some people in Brighton aren't liberal, because they make comments like "They should be banned from marching" The marchers aren't there to intimidate anyone, and if you feel threatened by their presence, you are free to enjoy the rest of the city without even knowing that they are around. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

6:26pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Brightonian63 says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Brightonian63 wrote:
Just make the hole bigger and bury the fascist b'stards
How about we throw the bigots like you into it?
How does that make be a bigot ZeeGee? are you saying that the MfE marchers who use the nazi salute as often as they can drag their right hand from their dicks are not fascists!
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brightonian63[/bold] wrote: Just make the hole bigger and bury the fascist b'stards[/p][/quote]How about we throw the bigots like you into it?[/p][/quote]How does that make be a bigot ZeeGee? are you saying that the MfE marchers who use the nazi salute as often as they can drag their right hand from their dicks are not fascists! Brightonian63
  • Score: 3

6:27pm Fri 25 Apr 14

scottlee says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons
Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.
Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...
Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?
When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning....

if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...
"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque"

Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building?

"and get smashed at 10 in the morning...."

Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right?

Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.
No The Royal Pavilion was not meant to look like a Mosque it was built in the "oriental style" . Again you show your ignorance.
If you tried to develop some culture instead of denigrating anything you see as foreign you might actually learn something about the world.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons[/p][/quote]Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...[/p][/quote]Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?[/p][/quote]When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...[/p][/quote]"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque" Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building? "and get smashed at 10 in the morning...." Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right? Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.[/p][/quote]No The Royal Pavilion was not meant to look like a Mosque it was built in the "oriental style" . Again you show your ignorance. If you tried to develop some culture instead of denigrating anything you see as foreign you might actually learn something about the world. scottlee
  • Score: 2

6:32pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Shaddow says...

I think ZeeGee ffs has followed the EDL debating instructions to the 't' ...

1. Regurgitate s*** you've been fed by right wing blogs
2. Keep on going even after you've been owned.
3. Knowledge and intelligence are irrelevant. Stamina is everything!
4. Keep on going until the other person gets bored and leaves.
5. You've won!

I would state don't feed the troll ...but it's been amusing seeing your arse being handed to you time and again ;)
I think ZeeGee ffs has followed the EDL debating instructions to the 't' ... 1. Regurgitate s*** you've been fed by right wing blogs 2. Keep on going even after you've been owned. 3. Knowledge and intelligence are irrelevant. Stamina is everything! 4. Keep on going until the other person gets bored and leaves. 5. You've won! I would state don't feed the troll ...but it's been amusing seeing your arse being handed to you time and again ;) Shaddow
  • Score: 3

6:41pm Fri 25 Apr 14

lee paul says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
lee paul wrote:
In the article above it says;
"The hole is located where nationalists are due to congregate ahead of the march on Sunday."

I would take issue with the use of the term 'nationalists' to describe the marchers. I remember a couple of years ago walking through town and stumbling across these people marching and them shouting racial abuse at someone and the police sheparding them ignoring it.

They should be banned from marching because it intimidates local people, and as far as I'm concerned I am very proud to live in a multicultural country and a liberal city.
Well, the OED definition fits many of the marchers quite well, so don't be upset by the use of the term.

Obviously some people in Brighton aren't liberal, because they make comments like "They should be banned from marching"

The marchers aren't there to intimidate anyone, and if you feel threatened by their presence, you are free to enjoy the rest of the city without even knowing that they are around.
Err...I'm for peaceful protest, just not ones that incit voilence or hatred.

You can't fool me because I saw the march a couple of years ago going down Queens Road on the bank holiday and the marchers at the back (covered in swatistica tatoo's some of them) were shouting racial abuse and trying to attack people! There might have been a family at the front with a St Georges flag but the people at the back were breaking the law. It is not on that it is allowed to go ahead.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lee paul[/bold] wrote: In the article above it says; "The hole is located where nationalists are due to congregate ahead of the march on Sunday." I would take issue with the use of the term 'nationalists' to describe the marchers. I remember a couple of years ago walking through town and stumbling across these people marching and them shouting racial abuse at someone and the police sheparding them ignoring it. They should be banned from marching because it intimidates local people, and as far as I'm concerned I am very proud to live in a multicultural country and a liberal city.[/p][/quote]Well, the OED definition fits many of the marchers quite well, so don't be upset by the use of the term. Obviously some people in Brighton aren't liberal, because they make comments like "They should be banned from marching" The marchers aren't there to intimidate anyone, and if you feel threatened by their presence, you are free to enjoy the rest of the city without even knowing that they are around.[/p][/quote]Err...I'm for peaceful protest, just not ones that incit voilence or hatred. You can't fool me because I saw the march a couple of years ago going down Queens Road on the bank holiday and the marchers at the back (covered in swatistica tatoo's some of them) were shouting racial abuse and trying to attack people! There might have been a family at the front with a St Georges flag but the people at the back were breaking the law. It is not on that it is allowed to go ahead. lee paul
  • Score: 1

6:48pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Psssst says...

angrymonkey wrote:
the sad people that think UKIP votes are racist are just wrong in most cases I will vote for them this year as fed up of are Government giving all are money away when we need it here and yes do want the number of people coming into the uk cut but not racist I just want uk people to be able to go out and get jobs where not given to people happy to work for penny's holding down pay rises for others making life harder for all and not putting strain on are heath service that cant cope now.
I have no problems with what race people are or if gay or not people should be able to live how they want but we should be looking after the uk first the Government we have at the moment are not doing this cutting back on everything .
If you are that proud to be English at least learn to speak and spell the bloody language.
[quote][p][bold]angrymonkey[/bold] wrote: the sad people that think UKIP votes are racist are just wrong in most cases I will vote for them this year as fed up of are Government giving all are money away when we need it here and yes do want the number of people coming into the uk cut but not racist I just want uk people to be able to go out and get jobs where not given to people happy to work for penny's holding down pay rises for others making life harder for all and not putting strain on are heath service that cant cope now. I have no problems with what race people are or if gay or not people should be able to live how they want but we should be looking after the uk first the Government we have at the moment are not doing this cutting back on everything .[/p][/quote]If you are that proud to be English at least learn to speak and spell the bloody language. Psssst
  • Score: 2

6:50pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Shaddow says...

ZeeGee ffs - 'The marchers aren't there to intimidate anyone, and if you feel threatened by their presence, you are free to enjoy the rest of the city without even knowing that they are around.'

Actually factually you are correct ...the marchers (as in the one's who actually do take part in the march) aren't there to intimidate anyone (well not all of them) they are just there to shout homophobic and racist abuse at everyone!

It's the one's that have travelled down with you but yet don't end up on the march. Those that roam the side streets looking to 'kick in a red's head'. These are probably the same idiots who go roaming St James St and London Rd the night before and after the demo. Now those people are there to intimidate and start fights.
ZeeGee ffs - 'The marchers aren't there to intimidate anyone, and if you feel threatened by their presence, you are free to enjoy the rest of the city without even knowing that they are around.' Actually factually you are correct ...the marchers (as in the one's who actually do take part in the march) aren't there to intimidate anyone (well not all of them) they are just there to shout homophobic and racist abuse at everyone! It's the one's that have travelled down with you but yet don't end up on the march. Those that roam the side streets looking to 'kick in a red's head'. These are probably the same idiots who go roaming St James St and London Rd the night before and after the demo. Now those people are there to intimidate and start fights. Shaddow
  • Score: 2

6:51pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Zeegee ffs- The comment "at any point of conflict between it and British law the current situation maintains that British law is supreme" - this was a statement from the Law Society with regard to recent controversy.
"This means the English court will recognise the forced heirship requirements of a Sharia country if those apply to the moveable assets due to the deceased's domicile."- That means if something is in another country then they have jurisdiction the court is not claiming extraterritoriality in the way US courts do when prosecuting Somali pirates for an act that happened outside the US.

What this means is that in no way can matters legally be decided in this country in a Sharia court or that Sharia has any legal standing here. It doesn't now and never will- that would require an act of parliament.
Zeegee ffs- The comment "at any point of conflict between it and British law the current situation maintains that British law is supreme" - this was a statement from the Law Society with regard to recent controversy. "This means the English court will recognise the forced heirship requirements of a Sharia country if those apply to the moveable assets due to the deceased's domicile."- That means if something is in another country then they have jurisdiction the court is not claiming extraterritoriality in the way US courts do when prosecuting Somali pirates for an act that happened outside the US. What this means is that in no way can matters legally be decided in this country in a Sharia court or that Sharia has any legal standing here. It doesn't now and never will- that would require an act of parliament. Arrggh
  • Score: 3

6:59pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
FC wrote:
Don't change the route. Let them take their chances.
What chances?
You're quite right- they would have no chance without an expensive police escort for however many turn up if there's bad weather.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FC[/bold] wrote: Don't change the route. Let them take their chances.[/p][/quote]What chances?[/p][/quote]You're quite right- they would have no chance without an expensive police escort for however many turn up if there's bad weather. Arrggh
  • Score: 2

7:06pm Fri 25 Apr 14

jimthedoorman says...

Dear ZeeGee AKA Gary Schofield,

You're bloody hilarious. The only sad fact about this is that you actually believe what you say. And the crippling misfortune is that people like you still exist.
Still, you have a nice home cinema system to weep over when you watch Downfall for the 89th time. Nice to know it was built in China by a Korean company.
Although you clearly prefer the works of Freddie Mercury by the looks of things. You know who he is, Farrokh Bulsara. Who was a Parsi born in Zanzibar. What must your friends think? I'm sure they'd like to discuss it when you come to Brighton.
Dear ZeeGee AKA Gary Schofield, You're bloody hilarious. The only sad fact about this is that you actually believe what you say. And the crippling misfortune is that people like you still exist. Still, you have a nice home cinema system to weep over when you watch Downfall for the 89th time. Nice to know it was built in China by a Korean company. Although you clearly prefer the works of Freddie Mercury by the looks of things. You know who he is, Farrokh Bulsara. Who was a Parsi born in Zanzibar. What must your friends think? I'm sure they'd like to discuss it when you come to Brighton. jimthedoorman
  • Score: 3

9:26pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

The MfE fb page includes an admission that they were planning on infiltrating the anti-demo dressed up as anarchists. After assurances that sussex police will unmask people they have changed their minds.
The MfE fb page includes an admission that they were planning on infiltrating the anti-demo dressed up as anarchists. After assurances that sussex police will unmask people they have changed their minds. Arrggh
  • Score: 2

10:33pm Fri 25 Apr 14

krrplunk says...

nuttyju wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City
Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you.

So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year?

You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city?

You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city.

Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly!
No I don't mind at all !! Because there is also a police bill for Pride and for the London to Brighton bike ride and all the other socially acceptable events that are held in Brighton. You cannot have it all your own way !! With regards to arrests made I think you will find that mostly the arrest are of the UAF / Antifa
There's bound to be more arrests of UAF/Anti Fa; seeing as MfE only attracts 100 hard drinking, hard of thinking imbeciles, there are plenty more UAF/Anti Fa (a.k,a people of Brighton to anyone other than the MfE supporters on this thread) to arrest, isn't there?
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Anyway good luck to those patriots doing the march, take your umbrellas not nice having Urine thrown over you, have a good day, be safe and never never surrender, and thank you ! I am a Brighton resident and it makes a refresing change to have pariots in our City[/p][/quote]Oh so you're a Brighton resident are you. So you don't mind your council tax going up in order to pay for policing the drunken violent weekend MfE organises each and every year? You're quite happy for your 'mates' to boast about how much they are costing this city? You're quite happy that the money being spent on policing a drunken bunch of violent idiots could have been spent on the community ...on a kid's project ...on our hospital ...on outreach services? You know things that actually HELP the people of this city. Perhaps you and Steve Sands (the guy who has near enough been arrested at every single demo on violent and homophobic hate crimes) and the other three MfE supporters in this city should indeed pay bill for this event each and every year seeing as you are the one's wanting the MfE here so badly![/p][/quote]No I don't mind at all !! Because there is also a police bill for Pride and for the London to Brighton bike ride and all the other socially acceptable events that are held in Brighton. You cannot have it all your own way !! With regards to arrests made I think you will find that mostly the arrest are of the UAF / Antifa[/p][/quote]There's bound to be more arrests of UAF/Anti Fa; seeing as MfE only attracts 100 hard drinking, hard of thinking imbeciles, there are plenty more UAF/Anti Fa (a.k,a people of Brighton to anyone other than the MfE supporters on this thread) to arrest, isn't there? krrplunk
  • Score: -2

12:36am Sat 26 Apr 14

Ricayboy says...

nuttyju wrote:
straycat wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Couldn't agree more!
Thank you, at last someone that speaks sense, I was beginning to feel very lonely as always when fighting with the Extremist Left in Brighton
There are many of us. I am an English patriot too.
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]straycat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more![/p][/quote]Thank you, at last someone that speaks sense, I was beginning to feel very lonely as always when fighting with the Extremist Left in Brighton[/p][/quote]There are many of us. I am an English patriot too. Ricayboy
  • Score: -1

12:44am Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Ricayboy wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
straycat wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has beenMany of you? The March has never had more than one hundred and fifty attending. I wouldn't be surprised if the turnout on Sunday is about a third of that- far-right marches have had declining attendances lately.
[quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]straycat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has beenMany of you? The March has never had more than one hundred and fifty attending. I wouldn't be surprised if the turnout on Sunday is about a third of that- far-right marches have had declining attendances lately. Arrggh
  • Score: 3

12:51am Sat 26 Apr 14

Ricayboy says...

The truth is, these anti-MFE goons don't hate extremism and racism as they claim. Actually they hate England and they hate any notion of an English identity. Whilst they claim to hate the concept of nations, they are more than happy for other cultural groups to assert and celebrate their identities.

I don't like MFE because it does the English cause no favours, but I hate the violent and sanctimonious 'anti-racism' protests even more. It's just an excuse for the Brighton chattering classes, middle class Caroline Lucas clones to get alongside a load of brainwashed students, anarchists and hard-left types to shout abuse at a handful of blokes who are -credit to the them- sticking their necks out to say that England isn't quite dead yet. That some of us still love our country.

From a hundred dingy flats and smoke-filled squats the Cowley Club cavaliers will emerge trailing cannabis clouds and copies of the Socialist Worker. They'll be joined by posh women with plummy accents, Guardian readers and feminists, and all the other card-carry members of the right-on brigade. The Battle of Cable street! Fight fascism!

In any normal country the national day would be celebrated in every town and city. In Brighton it's seen as a controversial and racist act, proving that this town really has lost its head. The joke is, the more they stigmatise English patriotism and identity the more they fuel anger and extremism. If St George's Day was celebrated as something positive as it is in many other places there would be no issue in Brighton.
The truth is, these anti-MFE goons don't hate extremism and racism as they claim. Actually they hate England and they hate any notion of an English identity. Whilst they claim to hate the concept of nations, they are more than happy for other cultural groups to assert and celebrate their identities. I don't like MFE because it does the English cause no favours, but I hate the violent and sanctimonious 'anti-racism' protests even more. It's just an excuse for the Brighton chattering classes, middle class Caroline Lucas clones to get alongside a load of brainwashed students, anarchists and hard-left types to shout abuse at a handful of blokes who are -credit to the them- sticking their necks out to say that England isn't quite dead yet. That some of us still love our country. From a hundred dingy flats and smoke-filled squats the Cowley Club cavaliers will emerge trailing cannabis clouds and copies of the Socialist Worker. They'll be joined by posh women with plummy accents, Guardian readers and feminists, and all the other card-carry members of the right-on brigade. The Battle of Cable street! Fight fascism! In any normal country the national day would be celebrated in every town and city. In Brighton it's seen as a controversial and racist act, proving that this town really has lost its head. The joke is, the more they stigmatise English patriotism and identity the more they fuel anger and extremism. If St George's Day was celebrated as something positive as it is in many other places there would be no issue in Brighton. Ricayboy
  • Score: -1

1:10am Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Ricaboy- If St George's Day was celebrated as something positive as it is in many other places there would be no issue in Brighton.
Do you see MfE as something positive? All over the country this week people have celebrated without feeling as though they need to threaten anyone who doesn't agree with their narrow view of patriotism.
There used to be a scouts parade- no one opposed it. Now people visiting will not be able to use some pubs because they will be closed. That doesn't help the local economy nor does the loss of trade along the route.
Ricaboy- If St George's Day was celebrated as something positive as it is in many other places there would be no issue in Brighton. Do you see MfE as something positive? All over the country this week people have celebrated without feeling as though they need to threaten anyone who doesn't agree with their narrow view of patriotism. There used to be a scouts parade- no one opposed it. Now people visiting will not be able to use some pubs because they will be closed. That doesn't help the local economy nor does the loss of trade along the route. Arrggh
  • Score: 3

2:02am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

jimthedoorman wrote:
Dear ZeeGee AKA Gary Schofield,

You're bloody hilarious. The only sad fact about this is that you actually believe what you say. And the crippling misfortune is that people like you still exist.
Still, you have a nice home cinema system to weep over when you watch Downfall for the 89th time. Nice to know it was built in China by a Korean company.
Although you clearly prefer the works of Freddie Mercury by the looks of things. You know who he is, Farrokh Bulsara. Who was a Parsi born in Zanzibar. What must your friends think? I'm sure they'd like to discuss it when you come to Brighton.
What is sad about posting my beliefs?
[quote][p][bold]jimthedoorman[/bold] wrote: Dear ZeeGee AKA Gary Schofield, You're bloody hilarious. The only sad fact about this is that you actually believe what you say. And the crippling misfortune is that people like you still exist. Still, you have a nice home cinema system to weep over when you watch Downfall for the 89th time. Nice to know it was built in China by a Korean company. Although you clearly prefer the works of Freddie Mercury by the looks of things. You know who he is, Farrokh Bulsara. Who was a Parsi born in Zanzibar. What must your friends think? I'm sure they'd like to discuss it when you come to Brighton.[/p][/quote]What is sad about posting my beliefs? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -4

2:03am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- The comment "at any point of conflict between it and British law the current situation maintains that British law is supreme" - this was a statement from the Law Society with regard to recent controversy.
"This means the English court will recognise the forced heirship requirements of a Sharia country if those apply to the moveable assets due to the deceased's domicile."- That means if something is in another country then they have jurisdiction the court is not claiming extraterritoriality in the way US courts do when prosecuting Somali pirates for an act that happened outside the US.

What this means is that in no way can matters legally be decided in this country in a Sharia court or that Sharia has any legal standing here. It doesn't now and never will- that would require an act of parliament.
An Act of parliament isn't required.

Sorry to tear you a new one again.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- The comment "at any point of conflict between it and British law the current situation maintains that British law is supreme" - this was a statement from the Law Society with regard to recent controversy. "This means the English court will recognise the forced heirship requirements of a Sharia country if those apply to the moveable assets due to the deceased's domicile."- That means if something is in another country then they have jurisdiction the court is not claiming extraterritoriality in the way US courts do when prosecuting Somali pirates for an act that happened outside the US. What this means is that in no way can matters legally be decided in this country in a Sharia court or that Sharia has any legal standing here. It doesn't now and never will- that would require an act of parliament.[/p][/quote]An Act of parliament isn't required. Sorry to tear you a new one again. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

2:05am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee ffs - 'The marchers aren't there to intimidate anyone, and if you feel threatened by their presence, you are free to enjoy the rest of the city without even knowing that they are around.'

Actually factually you are correct ...the marchers (as in the one's who actually do take part in the march) aren't there to intimidate anyone (well not all of them) they are just there to shout homophobic and racist abuse at everyone!

It's the one's that have travelled down with you but yet don't end up on the march. Those that roam the side streets looking to 'kick in a red's head'. These are probably the same idiots who go roaming St James St and London Rd the night before and after the demo. Now those people are there to intimidate and start fights.
Well, let's hope that a few of the lefty scum do receive a bloody good kicking, seeing as the only reason they are there is to cause trouble.

The rest of us who are there to have fun will hopefully be spared violent scenes.
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: ZeeGee ffs - 'The marchers aren't there to intimidate anyone, and if you feel threatened by their presence, you are free to enjoy the rest of the city without even knowing that they are around.' Actually factually you are correct ...the marchers (as in the one's who actually do take part in the march) aren't there to intimidate anyone (well not all of them) they are just there to shout homophobic and racist abuse at everyone! It's the one's that have travelled down with you but yet don't end up on the march. Those that roam the side streets looking to 'kick in a red's head'. These are probably the same idiots who go roaming St James St and London Rd the night before and after the demo. Now those people are there to intimidate and start fights.[/p][/quote]Well, let's hope that a few of the lefty scum do receive a bloody good kicking, seeing as the only reason they are there is to cause trouble. The rest of us who are there to have fun will hopefully be spared violent scenes. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

2:06am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
FC wrote:
Don't change the route. Let them take their chances.
What chances?
You're quite right- they would have no chance without an expensive police escort for however many turn up if there's bad weather.
So you accept that the UAF etc are the troublemakers.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FC[/bold] wrote: Don't change the route. Let them take their chances.[/p][/quote]What chances?[/p][/quote]You're quite right- they would have no chance without an expensive police escort for however many turn up if there's bad weather.[/p][/quote]So you accept that the UAF etc are the troublemakers. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

2:09am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
I think ZeeGee ffs has followed the EDL debating instructions to the 't' ...

1. Regurgitate s*** you've been fed by right wing blogs
2. Keep on going even after you've been owned.
3. Knowledge and intelligence are irrelevant. Stamina is everything!
4. Keep on going until the other person gets bored and leaves.
5. You've won!

I would state don't feed the troll ...but it's been amusing seeing your arse being handed to you time and again ;)
And I will be there on Sunday, proudly showing my England flag, enjoying the sea air, being surrounded by Englishmen, waving at the nazi scum on the north side of the Kingsway, then going for a pint watching the football, happy in the knowledge that as an Englishman I had a lovely day out being English.
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: I think ZeeGee ffs has followed the EDL debating instructions to the 't' ... 1. Regurgitate s*** you've been fed by right wing blogs 2. Keep on going even after you've been owned. 3. Knowledge and intelligence are irrelevant. Stamina is everything! 4. Keep on going until the other person gets bored and leaves. 5. You've won! I would state don't feed the troll ...but it's been amusing seeing your arse being handed to you time and again ;)[/p][/quote]And I will be there on Sunday, proudly showing my England flag, enjoying the sea air, being surrounded by Englishmen, waving at the nazi scum on the north side of the Kingsway, then going for a pint watching the football, happy in the knowledge that as an Englishman I had a lovely day out being English. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

2:11am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

scottlee wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
mhaiti wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons
Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.
Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...
Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?
When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning....

if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...
"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque"

Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building?

"and get smashed at 10 in the morning...."

Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right?

Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.
No The Royal Pavilion was not meant to look like a Mosque it was built in the "oriental style" . Again you show your ignorance.
If you tried to develop some culture instead of denigrating anything you see as foreign you might actually learn something about the world.
I didn't state it was meant to be a mosque, you f*ck ing moron. I asked whether it was.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]scottlee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mhaiti[/bold] wrote: March for england = a peaceful family friendly "parade" Hence why on their facebook page they have a flyer for the march of a st george's cross background with a skeleton clutching a burning union flag and a knife that says "we are ready" on it... Real wholesome family fun by the way nuttyju - WE probably get more of a kick from reading you and your pals' posts on facebook, one of which states that english people are suffering "oppression that has not been seen since the holocaust" Morons...absolute morons[/p][/quote]Maybe it's because of the threat of violence from the unwashed Lefties who hater this country and hate those who love it? If the UAF/Antifa/whatever ignored such events, there would be no need for the massive police presence increasing costs for the ratepayers of the host city. I shall be walking proudly from the railway station down Queen's Road on Sunday, and I will not take kindly to any intimidation from the scum bent on stopping me.[/p][/quote]Do you honestly believe what you write? If you geneuinely think that the only residents of Brighton that oppose your sham march are "unwashed lefties" then you must be mad. Brighton is a liberal city, in that we have a level of tolerance and understanding that you would obviously never understand. We take pride in our town and our way of thinking as do MILLIONS of our fellow countrymen and women in their own towns and cities. We have pride in a nation of toleratance and oppose a minority of narrow minded bullies who are fed paranoid drivel by the daily mail and the express and the "plethora of other websites" that you mentioned in a previous post. We know we are right and we hope that one day you come to your senses and realise just how silly you look to the vast majority of the country you proclaim to love. 100 turned up last year...100! If that doesn't tell you anything about your support then nothing will...[/p][/quote]Maybe the threat of violence splashed all over the media keeps some of them away? Can you explain why patriotism by the English isn't welcome'?[/p][/quote]When it comes packaged in a group of gentlemen who in their midst have some doing nazi salutes, shout E-E-EDL, they sing "no surrender to the IRA" shout homophobic abuse to the residents of the city they are visiting, confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque and get smashed at 10 in the morning.... if you can guarantee that none of that will happen then I'm all for patriotism, I'm patriotic but I'd just rather share that with people of a like mind not those that would go on this sham of a march...[/p][/quote]"confuse a city landmark for a massive mosque" Wasn't The Pavilion designed to resemble such a building? "and get smashed at 10 in the morning...." Like no holidaymakers have ever done, right? Blimey, people in Brighton are drunk at 10am from the previous evening after leaving Revenge etc totally smashed.[/p][/quote]No The Royal Pavilion was not meant to look like a Mosque it was built in the "oriental style" . Again you show your ignorance. If you tried to develop some culture instead of denigrating anything you see as foreign you might actually learn something about the world.[/p][/quote]I didn't state it was meant to be a mosque, you f*ck ing moron. I asked whether it was. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

2:13am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- The comment "at any point of conflict between it and British law the current situation maintains that British law is supreme" - this was a statement from the Law Society with regard to recent controversy.
"This means the English court will recognise the forced heirship requirements of a Sharia country if those apply to the moveable assets due to the deceased's domicile."- That means if something is in another country then they have jurisdiction the court is not claiming extraterritoriality in the way US courts do when prosecuting Somali pirates for an act that happened outside the US.

What this means is that in no way can matters legally be decided in this country in a Sharia court or that Sharia has any legal standing here. It doesn't now and never will- that would require an act of parliament.
Apart from the bit about sharia heirness being observed in an English court.

Let's face it, Argh.....you've been thoroughly c8nted on the matter.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- The comment "at any point of conflict between it and British law the current situation maintains that British law is supreme" - this was a statement from the Law Society with regard to recent controversy. "This means the English court will recognise the forced heirship requirements of a Sharia country if those apply to the moveable assets due to the deceased's domicile."- That means if something is in another country then they have jurisdiction the court is not claiming extraterritoriality in the way US courts do when prosecuting Somali pirates for an act that happened outside the US. What this means is that in no way can matters legally be decided in this country in a Sharia court or that Sharia has any legal standing here. It doesn't now and never will- that would require an act of parliament.[/p][/quote]Apart from the bit about sharia heirness being observed in an English court. Let's face it, Argh.....you've been thoroughly c8nted on the matter. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

2:17am Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Oh Gary- you haven't torn any new one and your debating skills are pathetic.
The UAF cause the trouble? It wasn't them who planned to infiltrate the counter protest or who needed a coach back to the station for the safety of the public. It wasn't anyone but the marchers who have promised to bash the reds- how will small groups making their way to the starting point identify reds from tourists or the public?
It wasn't anyone opposing who has been visited by the police for making threats online- I know online threats are common enough so they must have seen them as credible.
How do you think laws get made if not by parliament? When did the law change recognising Sharia because the Mail would've made that a front page.
Oh Gary- you haven't torn any new one and your debating skills are pathetic. The UAF cause the trouble? It wasn't them who planned to infiltrate the counter protest or who needed a coach back to the station for the safety of the public. It wasn't anyone but the marchers who have promised to bash the reds- how will small groups making their way to the starting point identify reds from tourists or the public? It wasn't anyone opposing who has been visited by the police for making threats online- I know online threats are common enough so they must have seen them as credible. How do you think laws get made if not by parliament? When did the law change recognising Sharia because the Mail would've made that a front page. Arrggh
  • Score: 2

2:24am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Oh Gary- you haven't torn any new one and your debating skills are pathetic.
The UAF cause the trouble? It wasn't them who planned to infiltrate the counter protest or who needed a coach back to the station for the safety of the public. It wasn't anyone but the marchers who have promised to bash the reds- how will small groups making their way to the starting point identify reds from tourists or the public?
It wasn't anyone opposing who has been visited by the police for making threats online- I know online threats are common enough so they must have seen them as credible.
How do you think laws get made if not by parliament? When did the law change recognising Sharia because the Mail would've made that a front page.
I've made you look stupid (with your help, of course) .

The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and we patriots will have a lovely day out.



And there is nothing you can do about it, sweetie ****
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Oh Gary- you haven't torn any new one and your debating skills are pathetic. The UAF cause the trouble? It wasn't them who planned to infiltrate the counter protest or who needed a coach back to the station for the safety of the public. It wasn't anyone but the marchers who have promised to bash the reds- how will small groups making their way to the starting point identify reds from tourists or the public? It wasn't anyone opposing who has been visited by the police for making threats online- I know online threats are common enough so they must have seen them as credible. How do you think laws get made if not by parliament? When did the law change recognising Sharia because the Mail would've made that a front page.[/p][/quote]I've made you look stupid (with your help, of course) . The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and we patriots will have a lovely day out. And there is nothing you can do about it, sweetie **** ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

2:24am Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Can you point to the passage of legislation recognising Sharia in this country because without one it doesn't amount to any more than a single example involving a will and property in another country outside UK jurisdiction.
You wont be having a pint in the pub in Brighton because after your mobile kettle you and your fifty true patriot mates will be escorted back to the station.
Hopefully not too much trade will have been lost in a city that relies on tourism and those who live here will carry on.
Can you point to the passage of legislation recognising Sharia in this country because without one it doesn't amount to any more than a single example involving a will and property in another country outside UK jurisdiction. You wont be having a pint in the pub in Brighton because after your mobile kettle you and your fifty true patriot mates will be escorted back to the station. Hopefully not too much trade will have been lost in a city that relies on tourism and those who live here will carry on. Arrggh
  • Score: 1

2:25am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Oh Gary- you haven't torn any new one and your debating skills are pathetic.
The UAF cause the trouble? It wasn't them who planned to infiltrate the counter protest or who needed a coach back to the station for the safety of the public. It wasn't anyone but the marchers who have promised to bash the reds- how will small groups making their way to the starting point identify reds from tourists or the public?
It wasn't anyone opposing who has been visited by the police for making threats online- I know online threats are common enough so they must have seen them as credible.
How do you think laws get made if not by parliament? When did the law change recognising Sharia because the Mail would've made that a front page.
mwah!
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Oh Gary- you haven't torn any new one and your debating skills are pathetic. The UAF cause the trouble? It wasn't them who planned to infiltrate the counter protest or who needed a coach back to the station for the safety of the public. It wasn't anyone but the marchers who have promised to bash the reds- how will small groups making their way to the starting point identify reds from tourists or the public? It wasn't anyone opposing who has been visited by the police for making threats online- I know online threats are common enough so they must have seen them as credible. How do you think laws get made if not by parliament? When did the law change recognising Sharia because the Mail would've made that a front page.[/p][/quote]mwah! ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

2:27am Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and we patriots will have a lovely day out.
I could go anywhere in the country with crazy hook hand and Jimmy Savilles body with that kind of an escort- very brave making out your somebody when you have to get drunk beforehand and have the boys in blue wasting money protecting you.
The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and we patriots will have a lovely day out. I could go anywhere in the country with crazy hook hand and Jimmy Savilles body with that kind of an escort- very brave making out your somebody when you have to get drunk beforehand and have the boys in blue wasting money protecting you. Arrggh
  • Score: 2

2:28am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and we patriots will have a lovely day out.
I could go anywhere in the country with crazy hook hand and Jimmy Savilles body with that kind of an escort- very brave making out your somebody when you have to get drunk beforehand and have the boys in blue wasting money protecting you.
So you admit that the police are there because of the threat you lefty scum pose.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and we patriots will have a lovely day out. I could go anywhere in the country with crazy hook hand and Jimmy Savilles body with that kind of an escort- very brave making out your somebody when you have to get drunk beforehand and have the boys in blue wasting money protecting you.[/p][/quote]So you admit that the police are there because of the threat you lefty scum pose. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

2:28am Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

We go where we want- go where you're told more like.
We go where we want- go where you're told more like. Arrggh
  • Score: 2

2:31am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
We go where we want- go where you're told more like.
I shall be going anywhere I like in Brighton on Sunday...just like I always do.

I shall stroll down to the seafront, take in the air, show my flag off, then go and watch the footy whilst having a few beers...and no-one will be stopping me - mmmmmmwah!
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: We go where we want- go where you're told more like.[/p][/quote]I shall be going anywhere I like in Brighton on Sunday...just like I always do. I shall stroll down to the seafront, take in the air, show my flag off, then go and watch the footy whilst having a few beers...and no-one will be stopping me - mmmmmmwah! ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

2:34am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Can you point to the passage of legislation recognising Sharia in this country because without one it doesn't amount to any more than a single example involving a will and property in another country outside UK jurisdiction.
You wont be having a pint in the pub in Brighton because after your mobile kettle you and your fifty true patriot mates will be escorted back to the station.
Hopefully not too much trade will have been lost in a city that relies on tourism and those who live here will carry on.
Oh, I shall be having a few beers there, thank you xxx
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Can you point to the passage of legislation recognising Sharia in this country because without one it doesn't amount to any more than a single example involving a will and property in another country outside UK jurisdiction. You wont be having a pint in the pub in Brighton because after your mobile kettle you and your fifty true patriot mates will be escorted back to the station. Hopefully not too much trade will have been lost in a city that relies on tourism and those who live here will carry on.[/p][/quote]Oh, I shall be having a few beers there, thank you xxx ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 0

2:36am Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and we patriots will have a lovely day out.
I could go anywhere in the country with crazy hook hand and Jimmy Savilles body with that kind of an escort- very brave making out your somebody when you have to get drunk beforehand and have the boys in blue wastingThe first sentence is a quote from you- not recognising your own words again. How many do you think will show? Turnouts at demos have been tiny of late- at one had only one guy turn up. He complained about it and was denounced as a plant by your friends at casuals united.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and we patriots will have a lovely day out. I could go anywhere in the country with crazy hook hand and Jimmy Savilles body with that kind of an escort- very brave making out your somebody when you have to get drunk beforehand and have the boys in blue wastingThe first sentence is a quote from you- not recognising your own words again. How many do you think will show? Turnouts at demos have been tiny of late- at one had only one guy turn up. He complained about it and was denounced as a plant by your friends at casuals united. Arrggh
  • Score: 2

2:44am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and we patriots will have a lovely day out.
I could go anywhere in the country with crazy hook hand and Jimmy Savilles body with that kind of an escort- very brave making out your somebody when you have to get drunk beforehand and have the boys in blue wastingThe first sentence is a quote from you- not recognising your own words again. How many do you think will show? Turnouts at demos have been tiny of late- at one had only one guy turn up. He complained about it and was denounced as a plant by your friends at casuals united."The first sentence is a quote from you"

Then learn how to use quotation marks.

Of course I recognised my own words......don't claim that I didn't.

"How many do you think will show? "

Don't know, don't care, and don't make out that I do.

I will be there, that's all that really matters, luv.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and we patriots will have a lovely day out. I could go anywhere in the country with crazy hook hand and Jimmy Savilles body with that kind of an escort- very brave making out your somebody when you have to get drunk beforehand and have the boys in blue wastingThe first sentence is a quote from you- not recognising your own words again. How many do you think will show? Turnouts at demos have been tiny of late- at one had only one guy turn up. He complained about it and was denounced as a plant by your friends at casuals united.[/p][/quote]"The first sentence is a quote from you" Then learn how to use quotation marks. Of course I recognised my own words......don't claim that I didn't. "How many do you think will show? " Don't know, don't care, and don't make out that I do. I will be there, that's all that really matters, luv. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

2:47am Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and weYou wont feel the least bit **** off if you get half last years turnout or less? Right you are then.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and weYou wont feel the least bit **** off if you get half last years turnout or less? Right you are then. Arrggh
  • Score: 1

2:48am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and weYou wont feel the least bit **** off if you get half last years turnout or less? Right you are then.It's not my concern, as I've said.

My day will go exactly as planned, thanks.....apart from the result from Anfield.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and weYou wont feel the least bit **** off if you get half last years turnout or less? Right you are then.[/p][/quote]It's not my concern, as I've said. My day will go exactly as planned, thanks.....apart from the result from Anfield. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

2:49am Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Zeegee ffs- Gotta love it when you blame the Hillsborough tragedy on Liverpool supporters on the MfE page.
Zeegee ffs- Gotta love it when you blame the Hillsborough tragedy on Liverpool supporters on the MfE page. Arrggh
  • Score: 1

2:51am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- Gotta love it when you blame the Hillsborough tragedy on Liverpool supporters on the MfE page.
The ones outside the ground caused it. The Taylor Report agreed with me, as did the BBC newsreels.

The poor sods inside the ground didn't stand a chance.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- Gotta love it when you blame the Hillsborough tragedy on Liverpool supporters on the MfE page.[/p][/quote]The ones outside the ground caused it. The Taylor Report agreed with me, as did the BBC newsreels. The poor sods inside the ground didn't stand a chance. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

2:57am Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and weYou wont feel the least bit **** off if you get half last years turnout or less? Right you are then.It's not my concern, as I've said.

My day will go exactly as planned, thanks.....apart from the result from Anfield.Yes that's right you'll march all of four hundred yards- practically a static demo, while surrounded by at least four times as many police and call it a victory. Or you'll fight with other marchers and the police and get arrested.
It's not as if the 'patriot' scene isn't already infiltrated by plod so they will get some intelligence on the next likely Breivik imitator.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and weYou wont feel the least bit **** off if you get half last years turnout or less? Right you are then.[/p][/quote]It's not my concern, as I've said. My day will go exactly as planned, thanks.....apart from the result from Anfield.[/p][/quote]Yes that's right you'll march all of four hundred yards- practically a static demo, while surrounded by at least four times as many police and call it a victory. Or you'll fight with other marchers and the police and get arrested. It's not as if the 'patriot' scene isn't already infiltrated by plod so they will get some intelligence on the next likely Breivik imitator. Arrggh
  • Score: 1

3:08am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and weYou wont feel the least bit **** off if you get half last years turnout or less? Right you are then.It's not my concern, as I've said.

My day will go exactly as planned, thanks.....apart from the result from Anfield.Yes that's right you'll march all of four hundred yards- practically a static demo, while surrounded by at least four times as many police and call it a victory. Or you'll fight with other marchers and the police and get arrested.
It's not as if the 'patriot' scene isn't already infiltrated by plod so they will get some intelligence on the next likely Breivik imitator.Any potential Breiviks would hardly be bragging about their terrible intentions in such a place. Even Breivik kept his thought to himself. Nice to see your desperation showing through, though. It's a celebration of all things England, something which is alien to you. I love the fact that you live in a country you plainly hate.

Static? I shall be fully mobile during my visit, just like I always am on my thrice-weekly trips to Brighton. This time, however, I shall be carrying an England flag xx
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: The lefties will be met with force should they start anything, and weYou wont feel the least bit **** off if you get half last years turnout or less? Right you are then.[/p][/quote]It's not my concern, as I've said. My day will go exactly as planned, thanks.....apart from the result from Anfield.[/p][/quote]Yes that's right you'll march all of four hundred yards- practically a static demo, while surrounded by at least four times as many police and call it a victory. Or you'll fight with other marchers and the police and get arrested. It's not as if the 'patriot' scene isn't already infiltrated by plod so they will get some intelligence on the next likely Breivik imitator.[/p][/quote]Any potential Breiviks would hardly be bragging about their terrible intentions in such a place. Even Breivik kept his thought to himself. Nice to see your desperation showing through, though. It's a celebration of all things England, something which is alien to you. I love the fact that you live in a country you plainly hate. Static? I shall be fully mobile during my visit, just like I always am on my thrice-weekly trips to Brighton. This time, however, I shall be carrying an England flag xx ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

3:12am Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Zeegee ffs- Even Breivik kept his thought to himself- well you don't exactly keep your thoughts to yourself and you will be marching with folk who thought he had the right idea. It wasn't his thoughts that brought him such celebrity status on the patriot scene- now he's in prison complaining about his treatment.
Zeegee ffs- Even Breivik kept his thought to himself- well you don't exactly keep your thoughts to yourself and you will be marching with folk who thought he had the right idea. It wasn't his thoughts that brought him such celebrity status on the patriot scene- now he's in prison complaining about his treatment. Arrggh
  • Score: 1

3:14am Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Zeegee ffs- I love this country just hate tools that think they and only they represent it and that anyone who doesn't agree with them is a traitor.
Zeegee ffs- I love this country just hate tools that think they and only they represent it and that anyone who doesn't agree with them is a traitor. Arrggh
  • Score: 1

3:17am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- Even Breivik kept his thought to himself- well you don't exactly keep your thoughts to yourself and you will be marching with folk who thought he had the right idea. It wasn't his thoughts that brought him such celebrity status on the patriot scene- now he's in prison complaining about his treatment.
I'm proud of my comments on everything, which is why I post them.

I can see why people get angry at those who allow their country to be over-run by foreigners.

I'll be strolling around Brighton happy in the knowledge that on this particular day, there are more patriots there than normal, and that there will be a load of angry lefty scum venting their spleen, powerless over the whole affair xxx
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- Even Breivik kept his thought to himself- well you don't exactly keep your thoughts to yourself and you will be marching with folk who thought he had the right idea. It wasn't his thoughts that brought him such celebrity status on the patriot scene- now he's in prison complaining about his treatment.[/p][/quote]I'm proud of my comments on everything, which is why I post them. I can see why people get angry at those who allow their country to be over-run by foreigners. I'll be strolling around Brighton happy in the knowledge that on this particular day, there are more patriots there than normal, and that there will be a load of angry lefty scum venting their spleen, powerless over the whole affair xxx ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

3:19am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- I love this country just hate tools that think they and only they represent it and that anyone who doesn't agree with them is a traitor.
No-one on the march will be claiming to represent the country. They are fully aware that there are scum like you who they don't represent in the slightest.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- I love this country just hate tools that think they and only they represent it and that anyone who doesn't agree with them is a traitor.[/p][/quote]No-one on the march will be claiming to represent the country. They are fully aware that there are scum like you who they don't represent in the slightest. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

3:24am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- I love this country just hate tools that think they and only they represent it and that anyone who doesn't agree with them is a traitor.
"I love this country"

Of course you f*cking don't!!

On Sunday, you'll be hurling abuse at those who do.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- I love this country just hate tools that think they and only they represent it and that anyone who doesn't agree with them is a traitor.[/p][/quote]"I love this country" Of course you f*cking don't!! On Sunday, you'll be hurling abuse at those who do. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

3:34am Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

PJW Brighton wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.
Oh, f*ck off you moron!

It's the lefty scum who turn up to cause trouble who force the local police to turn up and cause increased stress for taxpayers.

Every SGD celebration passes off without incident except for those which the lefties choose to disrupt.

You should be f*cking ashamed of yourself, but the fact it that you're rather proud of your hatred of the English. well, we shall be turning up on Sunday, we shall be displaying our flags, we shall be having a beer, and we shall be having fun, and there is SFA you scum can do about it.
[quote][p][bold]PJW Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.[/p][/quote]Oh, f*ck off you moron! It's the lefty scum who turn up to cause trouble who force the local police to turn up and cause increased stress for taxpayers. Every SGD celebration passes off without incident except for those which the lefties choose to disrupt. You should be f*cking ashamed of yourself, but the fact it that you're rather proud of your hatred of the English. well, we shall be turning up on Sunday, we shall be displaying our flags, we shall be having a beer, and we shall be having fun, and there is SFA you scum can do about it. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 0

3:50am Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Zeegee ffs- 'Every SGD celebration passes off without incident except for those which the lefties choose to disrupt.' Do you see no difference between MfE and -
'Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc'?
None of the other events require a police presence because they don't involve telling anyone they aren't English anymore or other catchy chants and racist abuse at passersby.
You'll be wandering around with your flag will you? Hope you don't object to being treated by foreign staff at A&E if that doesn't work out for you.
I wont be hurling abuse at anyone- I'll be walking about quietly keeping an eye out for those who think they have to be violent to prove their patriotism. If they behave then I will.
Zeegee ffs- 'Every SGD celebration passes off without incident except for those which the lefties choose to disrupt.' Do you see no difference between MfE and - 'Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc'? None of the other events require a police presence because they don't involve telling anyone they aren't English anymore or other catchy chants and racist abuse at passersby. You'll be wandering around with your flag will you? Hope you don't object to being treated by foreign staff at A&E if that doesn't work out for you. I wont be hurling abuse at anyone- I'll be walking about quietly keeping an eye out for those who think they have to be violent to prove their patriotism. If they behave then I will. Arrggh
  • Score: 2

9:41am Sat 26 Apr 14

Resident in Hanover says...

nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
It's useful that 'nuttyju' states that the objectors to EDL are the same as UKIP objectors, and thereby nuttyju attests that they attend and support both events.

UKIP is indeed steeped in racism, so I'd fully expect such a crossover.
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]It's useful that 'nuttyju' states that the objectors to EDL are the same as UKIP objectors, and thereby nuttyju attests that they attend and support both events. UKIP is indeed steeped in racism, so I'd fully expect such a crossover. Resident in Hanover
  • Score: 1

9:41am Sat 26 Apr 14

Resident in Hanover says...

nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
It's useful that 'nuttyju' states that the objectors to EDL are the same as UKIP objectors, and thereby nuttyju attests that they attend and support both events.

UKIP is indeed steeped in racism, so I'd fully expect such a crossover.
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]It's useful that 'nuttyju' states that the objectors to EDL are the same as UKIP objectors, and thereby nuttyju attests that they attend and support both events. UKIP is indeed steeped in racism, so I'd fully expect such a crossover. Resident in Hanover
  • Score: 2

9:47am Sat 26 Apr 14

Resident in Hanover says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
PJW Brighton wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.
Oh, f*ck off you moron!

It's the lefty scum who turn up to cause trouble who force the local police to turn up and cause increased stress for taxpayers.

Every SGD celebration passes off without incident except for those which the lefties choose to disrupt.

You should be f*cking ashamed of yourself, but the fact it that you're rather proud of your hatred of the English. well, we shall be turning up on Sunday, we shall be displaying our flags, we shall be having a beer, and we shall be having fun, and there is SFA you scum can do about it.
I personally defend your right to march and protest. It's part of what makes our country great.

It's always intrigued me when people like you talk about "the English" and the inherent rights you believe are granted from being so. Would you mind explaining what you mean when you say "the English"?

Do you need to be born here, do you need to be a tax payer, do you have to have English genes? What would preclude someone joining your group?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PJW Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.[/p][/quote]Oh, f*ck off you moron! It's the lefty scum who turn up to cause trouble who force the local police to turn up and cause increased stress for taxpayers. Every SGD celebration passes off without incident except for those which the lefties choose to disrupt. You should be f*cking ashamed of yourself, but the fact it that you're rather proud of your hatred of the English. well, we shall be turning up on Sunday, we shall be displaying our flags, we shall be having a beer, and we shall be having fun, and there is SFA you scum can do about it.[/p][/quote]I personally defend your right to march and protest. It's part of what makes our country great. It's always intrigued me when people like you talk about "the English" and the inherent rights you believe are granted from being so. Would you mind explaining what you mean when you say "the English"? Do you need to be born here, do you need to be a tax payer, do you have to have English genes? What would preclude someone joining your group? Resident in Hanover
  • Score: 5

9:53am Sat 26 Apr 14

Resident in Hanover says...

Ricayboy wrote:
The truth is, these anti-MFE goons don't hate extremism and racism as they claim. Actually they hate England and they hate any notion of an English identity. Whilst they claim to hate the concept of nations, they are more than happy for other cultural groups to assert and celebrate their identities.

I don't like MFE because it does the English cause no favours, but I hate the violent and sanctimonious 'anti-racism' protests even more. It's just an excuse for the Brighton chattering classes, middle class Caroline Lucas clones to get alongside a load of brainwashed students, anarchists and hard-left types to shout abuse at a handful of blokes who are -credit to the them- sticking their necks out to say that England isn't quite dead yet. That some of us still love our country.

From a hundred dingy flats and smoke-filled squats the Cowley Club cavaliers will emerge trailing cannabis clouds and copies of the Socialist Worker. They'll be joined by posh women with plummy accents, Guardian readers and feminists, and all the other card-carry members of the right-on brigade. The Battle of Cable street! Fight fascism!

In any normal country the national day would be celebrated in every town and city. In Brighton it's seen as a controversial and racist act, proving that this town really has lost its head. The joke is, the more they stigmatise English patriotism and identity the more they fuel anger and extremism. If St George's Day was celebrated as something positive as it is in many other places there would be no issue in Brighton.
What a horrible life you must lead. Words are beyond me.

I feel quite sorry for you.

See you tomorrow, perhaps.
[quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: The truth is, these anti-MFE goons don't hate extremism and racism as they claim. Actually they hate England and they hate any notion of an English identity. Whilst they claim to hate the concept of nations, they are more than happy for other cultural groups to assert and celebrate their identities. I don't like MFE because it does the English cause no favours, but I hate the violent and sanctimonious 'anti-racism' protests even more. It's just an excuse for the Brighton chattering classes, middle class Caroline Lucas clones to get alongside a load of brainwashed students, anarchists and hard-left types to shout abuse at a handful of blokes who are -credit to the them- sticking their necks out to say that England isn't quite dead yet. That some of us still love our country. From a hundred dingy flats and smoke-filled squats the Cowley Club cavaliers will emerge trailing cannabis clouds and copies of the Socialist Worker. They'll be joined by posh women with plummy accents, Guardian readers and feminists, and all the other card-carry members of the right-on brigade. The Battle of Cable street! Fight fascism! In any normal country the national day would be celebrated in every town and city. In Brighton it's seen as a controversial and racist act, proving that this town really has lost its head. The joke is, the more they stigmatise English patriotism and identity the more they fuel anger and extremism. If St George's Day was celebrated as something positive as it is in many other places there would be no issue in Brighton.[/p][/quote]What a horrible life you must lead. Words are beyond me. I feel quite sorry for you. See you tomorrow, perhaps. Resident in Hanover
  • Score: 4

10:04am Sat 26 Apr 14

Shaddow says...

Ricayboy wrote:
The truth is, these anti-MFE goons don't hate extremism and racism as they claim. Actually they hate England and they hate any notion of an English identity. Whilst they claim to hate the concept of nations, they are more than happy for other cultural groups to assert and celebrate their identities.

I don't like MFE because it does the English cause no favours, but I hate the violent and sanctimonious 'anti-racism' protests even more. It's just an excuse for the Brighton chattering classes, middle class Caroline Lucas clones to get alongside a load of brainwashed students, anarchists and hard-left types to shout abuse at a handful of blokes who are -credit to the them- sticking their necks out to say that England isn't quite dead yet. That some of us still love our country.

From a hundred dingy flats and smoke-filled squats the Cowley Club cavaliers will emerge trailing cannabis clouds and copies of the Socialist Worker. They'll be joined by posh women with plummy accents, Guardian readers and feminists, and all the other card-carry members of the right-on brigade. The Battle of Cable street! Fight fascism!

In any normal country the national day would be celebrated in every town and city. In Brighton it's seen as a controversial and racist act, proving that this town really has lost its head. The joke is, the more they stigmatise English patriotism and identity the more they fuel anger and extremism. If St George's Day was celebrated as something positive as it is in many other places there would be no issue in Brighton.
Ricayboy suggest you do some research on MfE and Brighton.

Firstly when MfE started marching here in Brighton it went unopposed. For two years it went unopposed. After the second march it was reported here in the Argus that people had complained about racist and homophobic abuse being shouted out by those attending the march. I myself had homophobic threats shouted at myself ...to which ZeeGee thinks I should grow some balls and take on the chin.

The UAF first opposed MfE after it became clear that EDL were the main driving force behind MfE. There was no violence from the opposing side (UAF) but there was violence from MfE to which one of their members pleaded guilty to assault. After that demo there was a 'revenge' outing planned by those in MfE and other right wing groups. This ended with Steven Sands (a well known MfE figure) being arrested on GBH. There was no record of any UAF or standing with UAF being arrested for violence. (Are you starting to note a pattern here?)

This is not the first 'revenge' attack that has been set up by the MfE and other far right groups.

MfE are not sticking their necks out for England ....if they were then why are they so hell bent on beating Brighton? As I'm pretty certain Brighton has **** all to do with the running of this country. I'm pretty certain if you love you country and you're sick of it going to to the dogs then you march upon Parliament and the City of London ...you march to those who are running this country into the ground and you demand change.

Also why give credit to violent homophobic racist drunken idiots?

Why cheer them when they cause nothing but violence from the Saturday evening right through to the Sunday evening?

Perhaps if you understood that those who oppose MfE are opposing the violence ...the homophobic abuse ...the racist abuse etc. All of which happens each and every year MfE comes to town then you wouldn't make such an arse of yourself writing the crap that you have!
[quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: The truth is, these anti-MFE goons don't hate extremism and racism as they claim. Actually they hate England and they hate any notion of an English identity. Whilst they claim to hate the concept of nations, they are more than happy for other cultural groups to assert and celebrate their identities. I don't like MFE because it does the English cause no favours, but I hate the violent and sanctimonious 'anti-racism' protests even more. It's just an excuse for the Brighton chattering classes, middle class Caroline Lucas clones to get alongside a load of brainwashed students, anarchists and hard-left types to shout abuse at a handful of blokes who are -credit to the them- sticking their necks out to say that England isn't quite dead yet. That some of us still love our country. From a hundred dingy flats and smoke-filled squats the Cowley Club cavaliers will emerge trailing cannabis clouds and copies of the Socialist Worker. They'll be joined by posh women with plummy accents, Guardian readers and feminists, and all the other card-carry members of the right-on brigade. The Battle of Cable street! Fight fascism! In any normal country the national day would be celebrated in every town and city. In Brighton it's seen as a controversial and racist act, proving that this town really has lost its head. The joke is, the more they stigmatise English patriotism and identity the more they fuel anger and extremism. If St George's Day was celebrated as something positive as it is in many other places there would be no issue in Brighton.[/p][/quote]Ricayboy suggest you do some research on MfE and Brighton. Firstly when MfE started marching here in Brighton it went unopposed. For two years it went unopposed. After the second march it was reported here in the Argus that people had complained about racist and homophobic abuse being shouted out by those attending the march. I myself had homophobic threats shouted at myself ...to which ZeeGee thinks I should grow some balls and take on the chin. The UAF first opposed MfE after it became clear that EDL were the main driving force behind MfE. There was no violence from the opposing side (UAF) but there was violence from MfE to which one of their members pleaded guilty to assault. After that demo there was a 'revenge' outing planned by those in MfE and other right wing groups. This ended with Steven Sands (a well known MfE figure) being arrested on GBH. There was no record of any UAF or standing with UAF being arrested for violence. (Are you starting to note a pattern here?) This is not the first 'revenge' attack that has been set up by the MfE and other far right groups. MfE are not sticking their necks out for England ....if they were then why are they so hell bent on beating Brighton? As I'm pretty certain Brighton has **** all to do with the running of this country. I'm pretty certain if you love you country and you're sick of it going to to the dogs then you march upon Parliament and the City of London ...you march to those who are running this country into the ground and you demand change. Also why give credit to violent homophobic racist drunken idiots? Why cheer them when they cause nothing but violence from the Saturday evening right through to the Sunday evening? Perhaps if you understood that those who oppose MfE are opposing the violence ...the homophobic abuse ...the racist abuse etc. All of which happens each and every year MfE comes to town then you wouldn't make such an arse of yourself writing the crap that you have! Shaddow
  • Score: 3

10:19am Sat 26 Apr 14

Shaddow says...

Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.'

This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans.

You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)
Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.' This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;) Shaddow
  • Score: 3

11:52am Sat 26 Apr 14

voiceofthescoombe says...

If it was a normal st georges day parade it would be a local brighton affair with a dragon kids etc etc.
Rather than a bunch of non locals full of dutch courage and making threats of violence on the net protected by riot police.

Funny how the so called patriots are full of vingear on the net but need to be protected by riot police theyare always massively out numbered.
I served my country the mfe are an embarrsement please stop.
If it was a normal st georges day parade it would be a local brighton affair with a dragon kids etc etc. Rather than a bunch of non locals full of dutch courage and making threats of violence on the net protected by riot police. Funny how the so called patriots are full of vingear on the net but need to be protected by riot police theyare always massively out numbered. I served my country the mfe are an embarrsement please stop. voiceofthescoombe
  • Score: 3

12:48pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

voiceofthescoombe wrote:
If it was a normal st georges day parade it would be a local brighton affair with a dragon kids etc etc.
Rather than a bunch of non locals full of dutch courage and making threats of violence on the net protected by riot police.

Funny how the so called patriots are full of vingear on the net but need to be protected by riot police theyare always massively out numbered.
I served my country the mfe are an embarrsement please stop.
The marchers didn't ask for protection. This started out as a fun day out, but the UAF et al decided that wasn't to be.

Quite why you are embarrassed by the parade isn't made clear, but seeing as you claim to be a patriot, shouldn't you be reserving your anger at those who want to stop the march?
[quote][p][bold]voiceofthescoombe[/bold] wrote: If it was a normal st georges day parade it would be a local brighton affair with a dragon kids etc etc. Rather than a bunch of non locals full of dutch courage and making threats of violence on the net protected by riot police. Funny how the so called patriots are full of vingear on the net but need to be protected by riot police theyare always massively out numbered. I served my country the mfe are an embarrsement please stop.[/p][/quote]The marchers didn't ask for protection. This started out as a fun day out, but the UAF et al decided that wasn't to be. Quite why you are embarrassed by the parade isn't made clear, but seeing as you claim to be a patriot, shouldn't you be reserving your anger at those who want to stop the march? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

12:49pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.'

This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans.

You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)
The Taylor Report clearly stated that the crush of fans outside the ground led to the opening of Gate C. No-one made those fans queue in such a disorderly fashion.
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.' This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)[/p][/quote]The Taylor Report clearly stated that the crush of fans outside the ground led to the opening of Gate C. No-one made those fans queue in such a disorderly fashion. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

12:50pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
Ricayboy wrote:
The truth is, these anti-MFE goons don't hate extremism and racism as they claim. Actually they hate England and they hate any notion of an English identity. Whilst they claim to hate the concept of nations, they are more than happy for other cultural groups to assert and celebrate their identities.

I don't like MFE because it does the English cause no favours, but I hate the violent and sanctimonious 'anti-racism' protests even more. It's just an excuse for the Brighton chattering classes, middle class Caroline Lucas clones to get alongside a load of brainwashed students, anarchists and hard-left types to shout abuse at a handful of blokes who are -credit to the them- sticking their necks out to say that England isn't quite dead yet. That some of us still love our country.

From a hundred dingy flats and smoke-filled squats the Cowley Club cavaliers will emerge trailing cannabis clouds and copies of the Socialist Worker. They'll be joined by posh women with plummy accents, Guardian readers and feminists, and all the other card-carry members of the right-on brigade. The Battle of Cable street! Fight fascism!

In any normal country the national day would be celebrated in every town and city. In Brighton it's seen as a controversial and racist act, proving that this town really has lost its head. The joke is, the more they stigmatise English patriotism and identity the more they fuel anger and extremism. If St George's Day was celebrated as something positive as it is in many other places there would be no issue in Brighton.
Ricayboy suggest you do some research on MfE and Brighton.

Firstly when MfE started marching here in Brighton it went unopposed. For two years it went unopposed. After the second march it was reported here in the Argus that people had complained about racist and homophobic abuse being shouted out by those attending the march. I myself had homophobic threats shouted at myself ...to which ZeeGee thinks I should grow some balls and take on the chin.

The UAF first opposed MfE after it became clear that EDL were the main driving force behind MfE. There was no violence from the opposing side (UAF) but there was violence from MfE to which one of their members pleaded guilty to assault. After that demo there was a 'revenge' outing planned by those in MfE and other right wing groups. This ended with Steven Sands (a well known MfE figure) being arrested on GBH. There was no record of any UAF or standing with UAF being arrested for violence. (Are you starting to note a pattern here?)

This is not the first 'revenge' attack that has been set up by the MfE and other far right groups.

MfE are not sticking their necks out for England ....if they were then why are they so hell bent on beating Brighton? As I'm pretty certain Brighton has **** all to do with the running of this country. I'm pretty certain if you love you country and you're sick of it going to to the dogs then you march upon Parliament and the City of London ...you march to those who are running this country into the ground and you demand change.

Also why give credit to violent homophobic racist drunken idiots?

Why cheer them when they cause nothing but violence from the Saturday evening right through to the Sunday evening?

Perhaps if you understood that those who oppose MfE are opposing the violence ...the homophobic abuse ...the racist abuse etc. All of which happens each and every year MfE comes to town then you wouldn't make such an arse of yourself writing the crap that you have!
EDL has had nothing to do with MFE, sorry.
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: The truth is, these anti-MFE goons don't hate extremism and racism as they claim. Actually they hate England and they hate any notion of an English identity. Whilst they claim to hate the concept of nations, they are more than happy for other cultural groups to assert and celebrate their identities. I don't like MFE because it does the English cause no favours, but I hate the violent and sanctimonious 'anti-racism' protests even more. It's just an excuse for the Brighton chattering classes, middle class Caroline Lucas clones to get alongside a load of brainwashed students, anarchists and hard-left types to shout abuse at a handful of blokes who are -credit to the them- sticking their necks out to say that England isn't quite dead yet. That some of us still love our country. From a hundred dingy flats and smoke-filled squats the Cowley Club cavaliers will emerge trailing cannabis clouds and copies of the Socialist Worker. They'll be joined by posh women with plummy accents, Guardian readers and feminists, and all the other card-carry members of the right-on brigade. The Battle of Cable street! Fight fascism! In any normal country the national day would be celebrated in every town and city. In Brighton it's seen as a controversial and racist act, proving that this town really has lost its head. The joke is, the more they stigmatise English patriotism and identity the more they fuel anger and extremism. If St George's Day was celebrated as something positive as it is in many other places there would be no issue in Brighton.[/p][/quote]Ricayboy suggest you do some research on MfE and Brighton. Firstly when MfE started marching here in Brighton it went unopposed. For two years it went unopposed. After the second march it was reported here in the Argus that people had complained about racist and homophobic abuse being shouted out by those attending the march. I myself had homophobic threats shouted at myself ...to which ZeeGee thinks I should grow some balls and take on the chin. The UAF first opposed MfE after it became clear that EDL were the main driving force behind MfE. There was no violence from the opposing side (UAF) but there was violence from MfE to which one of their members pleaded guilty to assault. After that demo there was a 'revenge' outing planned by those in MfE and other right wing groups. This ended with Steven Sands (a well known MfE figure) being arrested on GBH. There was no record of any UAF or standing with UAF being arrested for violence. (Are you starting to note a pattern here?) This is not the first 'revenge' attack that has been set up by the MfE and other far right groups. MfE are not sticking their necks out for England ....if they were then why are they so hell bent on beating Brighton? As I'm pretty certain Brighton has **** all to do with the running of this country. I'm pretty certain if you love you country and you're sick of it going to to the dogs then you march upon Parliament and the City of London ...you march to those who are running this country into the ground and you demand change. Also why give credit to violent homophobic racist drunken idiots? Why cheer them when they cause nothing but violence from the Saturday evening right through to the Sunday evening? Perhaps if you understood that those who oppose MfE are opposing the violence ...the homophobic abuse ...the racist abuse etc. All of which happens each and every year MfE comes to town then you wouldn't make such an arse of yourself writing the crap that you have![/p][/quote]EDL has had nothing to do with MFE, sorry. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

12:52pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Resident in Hanover wrote:
Ricayboy wrote:
The truth is, these anti-MFE goons don't hate extremism and racism as they claim. Actually they hate England and they hate any notion of an English identity. Whilst they claim to hate the concept of nations, they are more than happy for other cultural groups to assert and celebrate their identities.

I don't like MFE because it does the English cause no favours, but I hate the violent and sanctimonious 'anti-racism' protests even more. It's just an excuse for the Brighton chattering classes, middle class Caroline Lucas clones to get alongside a load of brainwashed students, anarchists and hard-left types to shout abuse at a handful of blokes who are -credit to the them- sticking their necks out to say that England isn't quite dead yet. That some of us still love our country.

From a hundred dingy flats and smoke-filled squats the Cowley Club cavaliers will emerge trailing cannabis clouds and copies of the Socialist Worker. They'll be joined by posh women with plummy accents, Guardian readers and feminists, and all the other card-carry members of the right-on brigade. The Battle of Cable street! Fight fascism!

In any normal country the national day would be celebrated in every town and city. In Brighton it's seen as a controversial and racist act, proving that this town really has lost its head. The joke is, the more they stigmatise English patriotism and identity the more they fuel anger and extremism. If St George's Day was celebrated as something positive as it is in many other places there would be no issue in Brighton.
What a horrible life you must lead. Words are beyond me.

I feel quite sorry for you.

See you tomorrow, perhaps.
I really hope you don't. The guy will be there to enjoy himself, and not be impeded by thugs.
[quote][p][bold]Resident in Hanover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: The truth is, these anti-MFE goons don't hate extremism and racism as they claim. Actually they hate England and they hate any notion of an English identity. Whilst they claim to hate the concept of nations, they are more than happy for other cultural groups to assert and celebrate their identities. I don't like MFE because it does the English cause no favours, but I hate the violent and sanctimonious 'anti-racism' protests even more. It's just an excuse for the Brighton chattering classes, middle class Caroline Lucas clones to get alongside a load of brainwashed students, anarchists and hard-left types to shout abuse at a handful of blokes who are -credit to the them- sticking their necks out to say that England isn't quite dead yet. That some of us still love our country. From a hundred dingy flats and smoke-filled squats the Cowley Club cavaliers will emerge trailing cannabis clouds and copies of the Socialist Worker. They'll be joined by posh women with plummy accents, Guardian readers and feminists, and all the other card-carry members of the right-on brigade. The Battle of Cable street! Fight fascism! In any normal country the national day would be celebrated in every town and city. In Brighton it's seen as a controversial and racist act, proving that this town really has lost its head. The joke is, the more they stigmatise English patriotism and identity the more they fuel anger and extremism. If St George's Day was celebrated as something positive as it is in many other places there would be no issue in Brighton.[/p][/quote]What a horrible life you must lead. Words are beyond me. I feel quite sorry for you. See you tomorrow, perhaps.[/p][/quote]I really hope you don't. The guy will be there to enjoy himself, and not be impeded by thugs. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

12:53pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Resident in Hanover wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
It's useful that 'nuttyju' states that the objectors to EDL are the same as UKIP objectors, and thereby nuttyju attests that they attend and support both events.

UKIP is indeed steeped in racism, so I'd fully expect such a crossover.
If UKIP was a racist party, then it would have been disbanded. Oh, and wishing to preserve one's borders and cultural identity isn't racist in the slightest.
[quote][p][bold]Resident in Hanover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]It's useful that 'nuttyju' states that the objectors to EDL are the same as UKIP objectors, and thereby nuttyju attests that they attend and support both events. UKIP is indeed steeped in racism, so I'd fully expect such a crossover.[/p][/quote]If UKIP was a racist party, then it would have been disbanded. Oh, and wishing to preserve one's borders and cultural identity isn't racist in the slightest. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

12:55pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Zeegee ffs- EDL nothing to do with MfE? Have you been before? E-E-EDL heard at every march so far and the same faces. Maybe that's now true because the EDL imploded into groups like the South East Alliance and others and casuals united, which promotes MfE, invites all 'patriot' groups just asks that those attending don't bring EDL banners.
The extent of the denial you're living in is extraordinary.
Zeegee ffs- EDL nothing to do with MfE? Have you been before? E-E-EDL heard at every march so far and the same faces. Maybe that's now true because the EDL imploded into groups like the South East Alliance and others and casuals united, which promotes MfE, invites all 'patriot' groups just asks that those attending don't bring EDL banners. The extent of the denial you're living in is extraordinary. Arrggh
  • Score: 3

12:55pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Resident in Hanover wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
PJW Brighton wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.
Oh, f*ck off you moron!

It's the lefty scum who turn up to cause trouble who force the local police to turn up and cause increased stress for taxpayers.

Every SGD celebration passes off without incident except for those which the lefties choose to disrupt.

You should be f*cking ashamed of yourself, but the fact it that you're rather proud of your hatred of the English. well, we shall be turning up on Sunday, we shall be displaying our flags, we shall be having a beer, and we shall be having fun, and there is SFA you scum can do about it.
I personally defend your right to march and protest. It's part of what makes our country great.

It's always intrigued me when people like you talk about "the English" and the inherent rights you believe are granted from being so. Would you mind explaining what you mean when you say "the English"?

Do you need to be born here, do you need to be a tax payer, do you have to have English genes? What would preclude someone joining your group?
The English are many things, and anyone can be part of a SDG parade.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Resident in Hanover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PJW Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.[/p][/quote]Oh, f*ck off you moron! It's the lefty scum who turn up to cause trouble who force the local police to turn up and cause increased stress for taxpayers. Every SGD celebration passes off without incident except for those which the lefties choose to disrupt. You should be f*cking ashamed of yourself, but the fact it that you're rather proud of your hatred of the English. well, we shall be turning up on Sunday, we shall be displaying our flags, we shall be having a beer, and we shall be having fun, and there is SFA you scum can do about it.[/p][/quote]I personally defend your right to march and protest. It's part of what makes our country great. It's always intrigued me when people like you talk about "the English" and the inherent rights you believe are granted from being so. Would you mind explaining what you mean when you say "the English"? Do you need to be born here, do you need to be a tax payer, do you have to have English genes? What would preclude someone joining your group?[/p][/quote]The English are many things, and anyone can be part of a SDG parade. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

12:56pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.'

This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans.

You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)
"Still what can you expect from a rent boy "

I don't know any, but you clearly know much about them.

Try not to spend too much of your dole on them.
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.' This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)[/p][/quote]"Still what can you expect from a rent boy " I don't know any, but you clearly know much about them. Try not to spend too much of your dole on them. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

1:01pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- 'Every SGD celebration passes off without incident except for those which the lefties choose to disrupt.' Do you see no difference between MfE and -
'Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc'?
None of the other events require a police presence because they don't involve telling anyone they aren't English anymore or other catchy chants and racist abuse at passersby.
You'll be wandering around with your flag will you? Hope you don't object to being treated by foreign staff at A&E if that doesn't work out for you.
I wont be hurling abuse at anyone- I'll be walking about quietly keeping an eye out for those who think they have to be violent to prove their patriotism. If they behave then I will.
So you're looking for trouble. Thanks for admitting what I suspected. I really hope it finds you.

There is no set manner for celebrating SGD. Some people simply where a red rose, others have flags, some have parties....it's up to the individual.

I won't be encountering any problems tomorrow, if the trains are running on time. I shall have breakfast, stroll to the station, walk down to the seafront, mingle with fellow patriots, take in the sea air, watch the big game at a favourite haunt, have a beer and wander back to the station in my own good time. You, on the other hand, will be stressed out angry at my very presence, lol.

Enjoy!
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- 'Every SGD celebration passes off without incident except for those which the lefties choose to disrupt.' Do you see no difference between MfE and - 'Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc'? None of the other events require a police presence because they don't involve telling anyone they aren't English anymore or other catchy chants and racist abuse at passersby. You'll be wandering around with your flag will you? Hope you don't object to being treated by foreign staff at A&E if that doesn't work out for you. I wont be hurling abuse at anyone- I'll be walking about quietly keeping an eye out for those who think they have to be violent to prove their patriotism. If they behave then I will.[/p][/quote]So you're looking for trouble. Thanks for admitting what I suspected. I really hope it finds you. There is no set manner for celebrating SGD. Some people simply where a red rose, others have flags, some have parties....it's up to the individual. I won't be encountering any problems tomorrow, if the trains are running on time. I shall have breakfast, stroll to the station, walk down to the seafront, mingle with fellow patriots, take in the sea air, watch the big game at a favourite haunt, have a beer and wander back to the station in my own good time. You, on the other hand, will be stressed out angry at my very presence, lol. Enjoy! ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

1:12pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- EDL nothing to do with MfE? Have you been before? E-E-EDL heard at every march so far and the same faces. Maybe that's now true because the EDL imploded into groups like the South East Alliance and others and casuals united, which promotes MfE, invites all 'patriot' groups just asks that those attending don't bring EDL banners.
The extent of the denial you're living in is extraordinary.
The EDL has nothing to do with MFE. It's supporters might well march, as it's yet another freedom we English have.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- EDL nothing to do with MfE? Have you been before? E-E-EDL heard at every march so far and the same faces. Maybe that's now true because the EDL imploded into groups like the South East Alliance and others and casuals united, which promotes MfE, invites all 'patriot' groups just asks that those attending don't bring EDL banners. The extent of the denial you're living in is extraordinary.[/p][/quote]The EDL has nothing to do with MFE. It's supporters might well march, as it's yet another freedom we English have. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

1:15pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.'

This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans.

You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)
http://hillsborough.
independent.gov.uk/r
epository/media/VID0
002.html

A video of the 'stfu' variety for you to enjoy.
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.' This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)[/p][/quote]http://hillsborough. independent.gov.uk/r epository/media/VID0 002.html A video of the 'stfu' variety for you to enjoy. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 0

1:16pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Zeegee ffs- If they behave then I will. I will be walking around the city I live in laughing as I hear how things haven't quite gone to plan for you.
You'll have probably powdered your nose, no chance you'll be sober and if you're wandering around with your flag you wont be able to resist shouting about how someone is no longer English or some of the delightful abuse you've used on here. Then you'll go running to plod to protect you from imaginary commies when you get a reaction.
Zeegee ffs- If they behave then I will. I will be walking around the city I live in laughing as I hear how things haven't quite gone to plan for you. You'll have probably powdered your nose, no chance you'll be sober and if you're wandering around with your flag you wont be able to resist shouting about how someone is no longer English or some of the delightful abuse you've used on here. Then you'll go running to plod to protect you from imaginary commies when you get a reaction. Arrggh
  • Score: 0

1:18pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- EDL nothing to do with MfE? Have you been before? E-E-EDL heard at every march so far and the same faces. Maybe that's now true because the EDL imploded into groups like the South East Alliance and others and casuals united, which promotes MfE, invites all 'patriot' groups just asks that those attending don't bring EDL banners.
The extent of the denial you're living in is extraordinary.
The EDL has nothing to do with MFE. It's supporters might well march, as it's yet another freedom we English have.
It's the same people involved in both. On Hillsborough you seem convinced a government report should be the end of the matter- do you have the same high opinion of the Lawrence enquiry?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- EDL nothing to do with MfE? Have you been before? E-E-EDL heard at every march so far and the same faces. Maybe that's now true because the EDL imploded into groups like the South East Alliance and others and casuals united, which promotes MfE, invites all 'patriot' groups just asks that those attending don't bring EDL banners. The extent of the denial you're living in is extraordinary.[/p][/quote]The EDL has nothing to do with MFE. It's supporters might well march, as it's yet another freedom we English have.[/p][/quote]It's the same people involved in both. On Hillsborough you seem convinced a government report should be the end of the matter- do you have the same high opinion of the Lawrence enquiry? Arrggh
  • Score: 0

1:20pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- If they behave then I will. I will be walking around the city I live in laughing as I hear how things haven't quite gone to plan for you.
You'll have probably powdered your nose, no chance you'll be sober and if you're wandering around with your flag you wont be able to resist shouting about how someone is no longer English or some of the delightful abuse you've used on here. Then you'll go running to plod to protect you from imaginary commies when you get a reaction.
Quite how news of my day will reach wasn't explained, but explanations aren't really your 'thing'.

I'm not planning on having a drink before the march, so I shall be sober, and I don't do drugs. I'm not planning on yelling any abuse at anyone. Indeed, I shall be smiling at the haters happy in my superiority over them.

I do anticipate being challenged at some point, and it won't be a problem.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- If they behave then I will. I will be walking around the city I live in laughing as I hear how things haven't quite gone to plan for you. You'll have probably powdered your nose, no chance you'll be sober and if you're wandering around with your flag you wont be able to resist shouting about how someone is no longer English or some of the delightful abuse you've used on here. Then you'll go running to plod to protect you from imaginary commies when you get a reaction.[/p][/quote]Quite how news of my day will reach wasn't explained, but explanations aren't really your 'thing'. I'm not planning on having a drink before the march, so I shall be sober, and I don't do drugs. I'm not planning on yelling any abuse at anyone. Indeed, I shall be smiling at the haters happy in my superiority over them. I do anticipate being challenged at some point, and it won't be a problem. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

1:25pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- EDL nothing to do with MfE? Have you been before? E-E-EDL heard at every march so far and the same faces. Maybe that's now true because the EDL imploded into groups like the South East Alliance and others and casuals united, which promotes MfE, invites all 'patriot' groups just asks that those attending don't bring EDL banners.
The extent of the denial you're living in is extraordinary.
The EDL has nothing to do with MFE. It's supporters might well march, as it's yet another freedom we English have.
It's the same people involved in both. On Hillsborough you seem convinced a government report should be the end of the matter- do you have the same high opinion of the Lawrence enquiry?
As I said, there will be supporters of the EDL's cause in the MFE event. I'd be very surprised to learn that there were none.

I haven't stated anything about the finality of the Hillsborough affair. I'm quite certain that people will be moaning' Justice!' til the end of their days, even though no-one has expressed what exactly that justice is.

I read Taylor and I've seen the video. The fans outside the ground were to blame for that gate being opened, and it was they who crushed those unfortunates to death.

As for any Lawrence inquiries, I really couldn't give a toss either way, and his racist **** of a mother can stfu any time she likes.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- EDL nothing to do with MfE? Have you been before? E-E-EDL heard at every march so far and the same faces. Maybe that's now true because the EDL imploded into groups like the South East Alliance and others and casuals united, which promotes MfE, invites all 'patriot' groups just asks that those attending don't bring EDL banners. The extent of the denial you're living in is extraordinary.[/p][/quote]The EDL has nothing to do with MFE. It's supporters might well march, as it's yet another freedom we English have.[/p][/quote]It's the same people involved in both. On Hillsborough you seem convinced a government report should be the end of the matter- do you have the same high opinion of the Lawrence enquiry?[/p][/quote]As I said, there will be supporters of the EDL's cause in the MFE event. I'd be very surprised to learn that there were none. I haven't stated anything about the finality of the Hillsborough affair. I'm quite certain that people will be moaning' Justice!' til the end of their days, even though no-one has expressed what exactly that justice is. I read Taylor and I've seen the video. The fans outside the ground were to blame for that gate being opened, and it was they who crushed those unfortunates to death. As for any Lawrence inquiries, I really couldn't give a toss either way, and his racist **** of a mother can stfu any time she likes. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

1:26pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- If they behave then I will. I will be walking around the city I live in laughing as I hear how things haven't quite gone to plan for you.
You'll have probably powdered your nose, no chance you'll be sober and if you're wandering around with your flag you wont be able to resist shouting about how someone is no longer English or some of theOf course it wont be a problem you'll be surrounded by plod- unless you'll be wandering around waiting for a reaction. Will you be alone or with friends because few of them have such self control. You're quite humble about your superiority- I'm taking a wild guess that you keep it hidden most of the time.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- If they behave then I will. I will be walking around the city I live in laughing as I hear how things haven't quite gone to plan for you. You'll have probably powdered your nose, no chance you'll be sober and if you're wandering around with your flag you wont be able to resist shouting about how someone is no longer English or some of theOf course it wont be a problem you'll be surrounded by plod- unless you'll be wandering around waiting for a reaction. Will you be alone or with friends because few of them have such self control. You're quite humble about your superiority- I'm taking a wild guess that you keep it hidden most of the time. Arrggh
  • Score: 1

1:31pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- If they behave then I will. I will be walking around the city I live in laughing as I hear how things haven't quite gone to plan for you.
You'll have probably powdered your nose, no chance you'll be sober and if you're wandering around with your flag you wont be able to resist shouting about how someone is no longer English or some of theOf course it wont be a problem you'll be surrounded by plod- unless you'll be wandering around waiting for a reaction. Will you be alone or with friends because few of them have such self control. You're quite humble about your superiority- I'm taking a wild guess that you keep it hidden most of the time.Please don't tell me how I'll be behaving. I'll be celebrating SGD for the second time this week, and having a great time......until Liverpoo FC take the lead. I love my visits to Brighton, but this one will be extra special, because I know I'll be upsetting the UAF scum. You're welcome,
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- If they behave then I will. I will be walking around the city I live in laughing as I hear how things haven't quite gone to plan for you. You'll have probably powdered your nose, no chance you'll be sober and if you're wandering around with your flag you wont be able to resist shouting about how someone is no longer English or some of theOf course it wont be a problem you'll be surrounded by plod- unless you'll be wandering around waiting for a reaction. Will you be alone or with friends because few of them have such self control. You're quite humble about your superiority- I'm taking a wild guess that you keep it hidden most of the time.[/p][/quote]Please don't tell me how I'll be behaving. I'll be celebrating SGD for the second time this week, and having a great time......until Liverpoo FC take the lead. I love my visits to Brighton, but this one will be extra special, because I know I'll be upsetting the UAF scum. You're welcome, ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

1:37pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

PJW Brighton wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
PJW Brighton wrote:
nuttyju wrote:
Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!!
Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.
If you do your research these events were actually very peaceful prior to 2009, the people making trouble are the Extreme Leftist groups Unite Against Fascism and Antifa, they are who is causing the trouble why can people not see that. If they were not there the march would pass peacefully. Just leave them alone its 2 hours a year, why is it deemed racist by you people to celebrate our heritage, its almost like you are ashamed to be English, very sad
But there is no celebration of our heritage in this March. Where is the music, art, food, crafts, may-pole, celebration of our thousands of years of different cultures and races coming here from the Romans and Vikings onwards? I have looked for this at this event over the last few years and all I see is spotty louts, drinking mainly German lager and wearing football tops made in China, and singing abusive songs about Ireland. That is nothing to do with celebrating our heritage.
It's a day at the seaside having a party in celebration of our patron saint and country.

It's not MFE's fault if it's now taken its present form. That is entirely the fault of the unwashed scum who object to any sign of patriotism by the English.
[quote][p][bold]PJW Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PJW Brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: Up and down the country St Georges day parades have been taking place this week, all family events that passed peacefully, same patriots, difference being are that they did not have the filthy UAF scum protesting. Brighton has been hijacked by The Left, too many students. There are other people in Brighton that may like to enjoy the march but it is not very nice having Urine thrown at you (its not the patriots that are scum its you lot opposing it). Its not YOUR Brighton, its here for everyone, I actually don't particularly like the Pride event, but I stay away and do not moan, so why can't the Brighton Left do the same. Its the same scummy people that come and shout and little old ladys at UKIP events, racists, scum, shame on you !!! Silly little people have no idea, make 0 contribution to society !! The same people that consider themselves above paying rent and insist on there "human rights" to squat, well its stealing isn't it and the way the Choco shop in the Lanes was trashed (human feaces all over the floor) is going to cost the owner rather a lot of money to put right !!![/p][/quote]Elsewhere in the country St George's Day Parades are just that - with food, Morris Dancers, entertainment, craft stalls etc. The March for England is made up of drunken louts singing 'no surrender to the IRA' and shouting homophobic abuse.[/p][/quote]If you do your research these events were actually very peaceful prior to 2009, the people making trouble are the Extreme Leftist groups Unite Against Fascism and Antifa, they are who is causing the trouble why can people not see that. If they were not there the march would pass peacefully. Just leave them alone its 2 hours a year, why is it deemed racist by you people to celebrate our heritage, its almost like you are ashamed to be English, very sad[/p][/quote]But there is no celebration of our heritage in this March. Where is the music, art, food, crafts, may-pole, celebration of our thousands of years of different cultures and races coming here from the Romans and Vikings onwards? I have looked for this at this event over the last few years and all I see is spotty louts, drinking mainly German lager and wearing football tops made in China, and singing abusive songs about Ireland. That is nothing to do with celebrating our heritage.[/p][/quote]It's a day at the seaside having a party in celebration of our patron saint and country. It's not MFE's fault if it's now taken its present form. That is entirely the fault of the unwashed scum who object to any sign of patriotism by the English. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 0

1:38pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Zeegee ffs- the past two years your friends always talked big about revenge for a plastic bottle hitting a child- the story quickly grew and now has urine and unicorns and ninjas that nobody saw. After the event nobody on it seemed to have enjoyed themselves- the police were mean to me, the commies said nasty things and so on.
I doubt tomorrow will be different- wandering around in small groups in a city whose people you evidently despise to get to the start- what could possibly go wrong?
Zeegee ffs- the past two years your friends always talked big about revenge for a plastic bottle hitting a child- the story quickly grew and now has urine and unicorns and ninjas that nobody saw. After the event nobody on it seemed to have enjoyed themselves- the police were mean to me, the commies said nasty things and so on. I doubt tomorrow will be different- wandering around in small groups in a city whose people you evidently despise to get to the start- what could possibly go wrong? Arrggh
  • Score: 3

1:45pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- the past two years your friends always talked big about revenge for a plastic bottle hitting a child- the story quickly grew and now has urine and unicorns and ninjas that nobody saw. After the event nobody on it seemed to have enjoyed themselves- the police were mean to me, the commies said nasty things and so on.
I doubt tomorrow will be different- wandering around in small groups in a city whose people you evidently despise to get to the start- what could possibly go wrong?
If the city despised us, the march wouldn't be occurring. How many actual residents of Brighton will be there on the unwashed side of the street? Out of a population of how many? How many residents will be in MFE?

I have no doubt that someone will be looking for revenge for that cowardly act of throwing a bottle at a child. I recall a SWP organiser being given a pounding in Lewisham for glorying in it a year or so back. I think his name was Smith, and he totally got what he deserved.

It'll be a lovely day apart from the football result.....unless Chelsea do the impossible.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- the past two years your friends always talked big about revenge for a plastic bottle hitting a child- the story quickly grew and now has urine and unicorns and ninjas that nobody saw. After the event nobody on it seemed to have enjoyed themselves- the police were mean to me, the commies said nasty things and so on. I doubt tomorrow will be different- wandering around in small groups in a city whose people you evidently despise to get to the start- what could possibly go wrong?[/p][/quote]If the city despised us, the march wouldn't be occurring. How many actual residents of Brighton will be there on the unwashed side of the street? Out of a population of how many? How many residents will be in MFE? I have no doubt that someone will be looking for revenge for that cowardly act of throwing a bottle at a child. I recall a SWP organiser being given a pounding in Lewisham for glorying in it a year or so back. I think his name was Smith, and he totally got what he deserved. It'll be a lovely day apart from the football result.....unless Chelsea do the impossible. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

1:53pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- the past two years your friends always talked big about revenge for a plastic bottle hitting a child- the story quickly grew and now has urine and unicorns and ninjas that nobody saw. After the event nobody on it seemed to have enjoyed themselves- theZeegee ffs- 'If the city despised us, the march wouldn't be occurring.' By that logic the EDL would only have marched where they were popular- where would that be then? You think the decision to allow the march is based on popularity? That's ludicrous- the decision is so unpopular the police wont even admit who made it.
Look at photos from last year and you'll see over a thousand opposing about a hundred marchers- who got a bus to the station because only ten live here.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- the past two years your friends always talked big about revenge for a plastic bottle hitting a child- the story quickly grew and now has urine and unicorns and ninjas that nobody saw. After the event nobody on it seemed to have enjoyed themselves- theZeegee ffs- 'If the city despised us, the march wouldn't be occurring.' By that logic the EDL would only have marched where they were popular- where would that be then? You think the decision to allow the march is based on popularity? That's ludicrous- the decision is so unpopular the police wont even admit who made it. Look at photos from last year and you'll see over a thousand opposing about a hundred marchers- who got a bus to the station because only ten live here. Arrggh
  • Score: 2

1:55pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Shaddow says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.'

This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans.

You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)
The Taylor Report clearly stated that the crush of fans outside the ground led to the opening of Gate C. No-one made those fans queue in such a disorderly fashion.
Liverpool fans were allocated the Leppings Lane stand. Entry to the Leppings Lane stand was possible only via one of seven decrepit turnstiles, a restriction that led to dangerous overcrowding outside the ground before kick-off. In an attempt to ease pressure outside the ground, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the senior police officer responsible for the match, ordered an exit gate to be opened. The opened exit gate led to a tunnel marked "Standing", which led directly to the two already overcrowded enclosures. In previous years, the tunnel had been closed off by police when the two central pens were full; however, on this occasion the tunnel was unmanned.

Shows just how little you know about what happened, actually every single comment you have made shows just how little you know.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.' This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)[/p][/quote]The Taylor Report clearly stated that the crush of fans outside the ground led to the opening of Gate C. No-one made those fans queue in such a disorderly fashion.[/p][/quote]Liverpool fans were allocated the Leppings Lane stand. Entry to the Leppings Lane stand was possible only via one of seven decrepit turnstiles, a restriction that led to dangerous overcrowding outside the ground before kick-off. In an attempt to ease pressure outside the ground, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the senior police officer responsible for the match, ordered an exit gate to be opened. The opened exit gate led to a tunnel marked "Standing", which led directly to the two already overcrowded enclosures. In previous years, the tunnel had been closed off by police when the two central pens were full; however, on this occasion the tunnel was unmanned. Shows just how little you know about what happened, actually every single comment you have made shows just how little you know. Shaddow
  • Score: 1

2:06pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.'

This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans.

You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)
The Taylor Report clearly stated that the crush of fans outside the ground led to the opening of Gate C. No-one made those fans queue in such a disorderly fashion.
Liverpool fans were allocated the Leppings Lane stand. Entry to the Leppings Lane stand was possible only via one of seven decrepit turnstiles, a restriction that led to dangerous overcrowding outside the ground before kick-off. In an attempt to ease pressure outside the ground, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the senior police officer responsible for the match, ordered an exit gate to be opened. The opened exit gate led to a tunnel marked "Standing", which led directly to the two already overcrowded enclosures. In previous years, the tunnel had been closed off by police when the two central pens were full; however, on this occasion the tunnel was unmanned.

Shows just how little you know about what happened, actually every single comment you have made shows just how little you know.
You've just accepted that there was pressure outside the ground. No-one made those fans turn those queues into a disorderly mass.

The gates were opened before anyone behind them could organise a funnel system where the fans could be re-directed away from the two middle pens.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.' This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)[/p][/quote]The Taylor Report clearly stated that the crush of fans outside the ground led to the opening of Gate C. No-one made those fans queue in such a disorderly fashion.[/p][/quote]Liverpool fans were allocated the Leppings Lane stand. Entry to the Leppings Lane stand was possible only via one of seven decrepit turnstiles, a restriction that led to dangerous overcrowding outside the ground before kick-off. In an attempt to ease pressure outside the ground, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the senior police officer responsible for the match, ordered an exit gate to be opened. The opened exit gate led to a tunnel marked "Standing", which led directly to the two already overcrowded enclosures. In previous years, the tunnel had been closed off by police when the two central pens were full; however, on this occasion the tunnel was unmanned. Shows just how little you know about what happened, actually every single comment you have made shows just how little you know.[/p][/quote]You've just accepted that there was pressure outside the ground. No-one made those fans turn those queues into a disorderly mass. The gates were opened before anyone behind them could organise a funnel system where the fans could be re-directed away from the two middle pens. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

2:11pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Zeegee ffs- the past two years your friends always talked big about revenge for a plastic bottle hitting a child- the story quickly grew and now has urine and unicorns and ninjas that nobody saw. After the event nobody on it seemed to have enjoyed themselves- theZeegee ffs- 'If the city despised us, the march wouldn't be occurring.' By that logic the EDL would only have marched where they were popular- where would that be then? You think the decision to allow the march is based on popularity? That's ludicrous- the decision is so unpopular the police wont even admit who made it.
Look at photos from last year and you'll see over a thousand opposing about a hundred marchers- who got a bus to the station because only ten live here.Support for the EDL's cause is massive. Even those who opposed it are happy that things like terrorism, FGM, incest etc are illegal.

The police have no option but to allow the march to go ahead, because they know it gives them a chance of organising security. If they banned it, people would still turn up to Brighton celebrating SGD and no-one would be able to stop them.

Over a thousand opposed the march last year? What a pathetic response from a city that 'despises' the marchers, lol. And how many were Brighton residents? No-one knows, but fewer than a thousand were.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: Zeegee ffs- the past two years your friends always talked big about revenge for a plastic bottle hitting a child- the story quickly grew and now has urine and unicorns and ninjas that nobody saw. After the event nobody on it seemed to have enjoyed themselves- theZeegee ffs- 'If the city despised us, the march wouldn't be occurring.' By that logic the EDL would only have marched where they were popular- where would that be then? You think the decision to allow the march is based on popularity? That's ludicrous- the decision is so unpopular the police wont even admit who made it. Look at photos from last year and you'll see over a thousand opposing about a hundred marchers- who got a bus to the station because only ten live here.[/p][/quote]Support for the EDL's cause is massive. Even those who opposed it are happy that things like terrorism, FGM, incest etc are illegal. The police have no option but to allow the march to go ahead, because they know it gives them a chance of organising security. If they banned it, people would still turn up to Brighton celebrating SGD and no-one would be able to stop them. Over a thousand opposed the march last year? What a pathetic response from a city that 'despises' the marchers, lol. And how many were Brighton residents? No-one knows, but fewer than a thousand were. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

2:14pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

This is what happens to those who gloat over children being injured

http://uaf.org.uk/20
12/05/edl-thugs-beat
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rch-against-the-fasc
ists-in-luton/
This is what happens to those who gloat over children being injured http://uaf.org.uk/20 12/05/edl-thugs-beat -up-pensioner-now-ma rch-against-the-fasc ists-in-luton/ ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

2:16pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

https://www.facebook
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https://www.facebook .com/photo.php?fbid= 10152756843857892&se t=o.172540236682&typ e=3&theater ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

2:19pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.'

This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans.

You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)
The Taylor Report clearly stated that the crush of fans outside the ground led to the opening of Gate C. No-one made those fans queue in such a disorderly fashion.
Liverpool fans were allocated the Leppings Lane stand. Entry to the Leppings Lane stand was possible only via one of seven decrepit turnstiles, a restriction that led to dangerous overcrowding outside the ground before kick-off. In an attempt to ease pressure outside the ground, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the senior police officer responsible for the match, ordered an exit gate to be opened. The opened exit gate led to a tunnel marked "Standing", which led directly to the two already overcrowded enclosures. In previous years, the tunnel had been closed off by police when the two central pens were full; however, on this occasion the tunnel was unmanned.

Shows just how little you know about what happened, actually every single comment you have made shows just how little you know.
You've just accepted that there was pressure outside the ground. No-one made those fans turn those queues into a disorderly mass.

The gates were opened before anyone behind them could organise a funnel system where the fans could be re-directed away from the two middle pens.

HTH
Zeegee ffs- The fans were directed where to go by the police before the mistake was realised. HTH
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.' This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)[/p][/quote]The Taylor Report clearly stated that the crush of fans outside the ground led to the opening of Gate C. No-one made those fans queue in such a disorderly fashion.[/p][/quote]Liverpool fans were allocated the Leppings Lane stand. Entry to the Leppings Lane stand was possible only via one of seven decrepit turnstiles, a restriction that led to dangerous overcrowding outside the ground before kick-off. In an attempt to ease pressure outside the ground, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the senior police officer responsible for the match, ordered an exit gate to be opened. The opened exit gate led to a tunnel marked "Standing", which led directly to the two already overcrowded enclosures. In previous years, the tunnel had been closed off by police when the two central pens were full; however, on this occasion the tunnel was unmanned. Shows just how little you know about what happened, actually every single comment you have made shows just how little you know.[/p][/quote]You've just accepted that there was pressure outside the ground. No-one made those fans turn those queues into a disorderly mass. The gates were opened before anyone behind them could organise a funnel system where the fans could be re-directed away from the two middle pens. HTH[/p][/quote]Zeegee ffs- The fans were directed where to go by the police before the mistake was realised. HTH Arrggh
  • Score: 2

2:23pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.'

This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans.

You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)
The Taylor Report clearly stated that the crush of fans outside the ground led to the opening of Gate C. No-one made those fans queue in such a disorderly fashion.
Liverpool fans were allocated the Leppings Lane stand. Entry to the Leppings Lane stand was possible only via one of seven decrepit turnstiles, a restriction that led to dangerous overcrowding outside the ground before kick-off. In an attempt to ease pressure outside the ground, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the senior police officer responsible for the match, ordered an exit gate to be opened. The opened exit gate led to a tunnel marked "Standing", which led directly to the two already overcrowded enclosures. In previous years, the tunnel had been closed off by police when the two central pens were full; however, on this occasion the tunnel was unmanned.

Shows just how little you know about what happened, actually every single comment you have made shows just how little you know.
You've just accepted that there was pressure outside the ground. No-one made those fans turn those queues into a disorderly mass.

The gates were opened before anyone behind them could organise a funnel system where the fans could be re-directed away from the two middle pens.

HTH
Zeegee ffs- The fans were directed where to go by the police before the mistake was realised. HTH
No, there was no direction by the police once that gate was opened.

And it STILL doesn't alter the fact that it was the fans' behaviour which caused the problem in the first place.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.' This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)[/p][/quote]The Taylor Report clearly stated that the crush of fans outside the ground led to the opening of Gate C. No-one made those fans queue in such a disorderly fashion.[/p][/quote]Liverpool fans were allocated the Leppings Lane stand. Entry to the Leppings Lane stand was possible only via one of seven decrepit turnstiles, a restriction that led to dangerous overcrowding outside the ground before kick-off. In an attempt to ease pressure outside the ground, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the senior police officer responsible for the match, ordered an exit gate to be opened. The opened exit gate led to a tunnel marked "Standing", which led directly to the two already overcrowded enclosures. In previous years, the tunnel had been closed off by police when the two central pens were full; however, on this occasion the tunnel was unmanned. Shows just how little you know about what happened, actually every single comment you have made shows just how little you know.[/p][/quote]You've just accepted that there was pressure outside the ground. No-one made those fans turn those queues into a disorderly mass. The gates were opened before anyone behind them could organise a funnel system where the fans could be re-directed away from the two middle pens. HTH[/p][/quote]Zeegee ffs- The fans were directed where to go by the police before the mistake was realised. HTH[/p][/quote]No, there was no direction by the police once that gate was opened. And it STILL doesn't alter the fact that it was the fans' behaviour which caused the problem in the first place. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

2:27pm Sat 26 Apr 14

tonupboy says...

Not March of the Morons again!
Not March of the Morons again! tonupboy
  • Score: 3

2:32pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.'

This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans.

You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)
The Taylor Report clearly stated that the crush of fans outside the ground led to the opening of Gate C. No-one made those fans queue in such a disorderly fashion.
Liverpool fans were allocated the Leppings Lane stand. Entry to the Leppings Lane stand was possible only via one of seven decrepit turnstiles, a restriction that led to dangerous overcrowding outside the ground before kick-off. In an attempt to ease pressure outside the ground, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the senior police officer responsible for the match, ordered an exit gate to be opened. The opened exit gate led to a tunnel marked "Standing", which led directly to the two already overcrowded enclosures. In previous years, the tunnel had been closed off by police when the two central pens were full; however, on this occasion the tunnel was unmanned.

Shows just how little you know about what happened, actually every single comment you have made shows just how little you know.
You've just accepted that there was pressure outside the ground. No-one made those fans turn those queues into a disorderly mass.

The gates were opened before anyone behind them could organise a funnel system where the fans could be re-directed away from the two middle pens.

HTH
Zeegee ffs- The fans were directed where to go by the police before the mistake was realised. HTH
No, there was no direction by the police once that gate was opened.

And it STILL doesn't alter the fact that it was the fans' behaviour which caused the problem in the first place.
The fans behaviour was trying to attend a match- an entrance was opened that shouldn't have been and mistakes by the police on the day led to tragedy.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.' This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)[/p][/quote]The Taylor Report clearly stated that the crush of fans outside the ground led to the opening of Gate C. No-one made those fans queue in such a disorderly fashion.[/p][/quote]Liverpool fans were allocated the Leppings Lane stand. Entry to the Leppings Lane stand was possible only via one of seven decrepit turnstiles, a restriction that led to dangerous overcrowding outside the ground before kick-off. In an attempt to ease pressure outside the ground, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the senior police officer responsible for the match, ordered an exit gate to be opened. The opened exit gate led to a tunnel marked "Standing", which led directly to the two already overcrowded enclosures. In previous years, the tunnel had been closed off by police when the two central pens were full; however, on this occasion the tunnel was unmanned. Shows just how little you know about what happened, actually every single comment you have made shows just how little you know.[/p][/quote]You've just accepted that there was pressure outside the ground. No-one made those fans turn those queues into a disorderly mass. The gates were opened before anyone behind them could organise a funnel system where the fans could be re-directed away from the two middle pens. HTH[/p][/quote]Zeegee ffs- The fans were directed where to go by the police before the mistake was realised. HTH[/p][/quote]No, there was no direction by the police once that gate was opened. And it STILL doesn't alter the fact that it was the fans' behaviour which caused the problem in the first place.[/p][/quote]The fans behaviour was trying to attend a match- an entrance was opened that shouldn't have been and mistakes by the police on the day led to tragedy. Arrggh
  • Score: 2

2:33pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

tonupboy wrote:
Not March of the Morons again!
Yes, the UAF are having a day out at the seaside.
[quote][p][bold]tonupboy[/bold] wrote: Not March of the Morons again![/p][/quote]Yes, the UAF are having a day out at the seaside. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

2:35pm Sat 26 Apr 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Shaddow wrote:
Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.'

This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans.

You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)
The Taylor Report clearly stated that the crush of fans outside the ground led to the opening of Gate C. No-one made those fans queue in such a disorderly fashion.
Liverpool fans were allocated the Leppings Lane stand. Entry to the Leppings Lane stand was possible only via one of seven decrepit turnstiles, a restriction that led to dangerous overcrowding outside the ground before kick-off. In an attempt to ease pressure outside the ground, Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield, the senior police officer responsible for the match, ordered an exit gate to be opened. The opened exit gate led to a tunnel marked "Standing", which led directly to the two already overcrowded enclosures. In previous years, the tunnel had been closed off by police when the two central pens were full; however, on this occasion the tunnel was unmanned.

Shows just how little you know about what happened, actually every single comment you have made shows just how little you know.
You've just accepted that there was pressure outside the ground. No-one made those fans turn those queues into a disorderly mass.

The gates were opened before anyone behind them could organise a funnel system where the fans could be re-directed away from the two middle pens.

HTH
Zeegee ffs- The fans were directed where to go by the police before the mistake was realised. HTH
No, there was no direction by the police once that gate was opened.

And it STILL doesn't alter the fact that it was the fans' behaviour which caused the problem in the first place.
The fans behaviour was trying to attend a match- an entrance was opened that shouldn't have been and mistakes by the police on the day led to tragedy.
"The fans behaviour was trying to attend a match"

Attending a match doesn't require having an exit gate opened BEFORE the game has even started.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shaddow[/bold] wrote: Gary Schofield as for your ' But Liverpoo fans were to blame for the tragedy.' This only goes to show what an utter moron you actually are. Still buy the Sun do you? Even though it's been proved that they lied when they laid blame on the Liverpool fans. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and **** in your face! Still what can you expect from a rent boy ...remember to bend over low on Sunday ...seems you're gonna be taking a double stuffing ;)[/p][/quote]The Taylor Report clearly stated that the crush of fans outside the ground led to the opening of Gate C. No-one made those fans queue in such a disorderly fashion.[/p][/quote]Liverpool fans were allocated the Leppings Lane stand. Entry to the Leppings Lane stand was possible only via one of seven decrepit turnstiles, a restriction that led to dangerous overcrowding outside the ground before kick-off. In an attempt to ease pressure outside the ground, Chief Superintendent David Du