Brighton and Hove braces itself for annual March for England

Brighton and Hove braces itself for annual March for England

Brighton and Hove braces itself for annual March for England

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More than a thousand nationalists and anti-fascist protesters will descend on Brighton and Hove tomorrow for the annual March for England.

Roads will be closed, businesses shut and hundreds of police officers, dogs and horses stationed throughout the city.

Last year saw running battles between opposing groups with bloody punch-ups just yards from day-trippers and locals.

A significant Sussex Police presence will be attempting to prevent similar scenes this year with the help of other forces.

Superintendent Steve Whitton said: “Unlawful behaviour – or that which goes beyond what could be considered reasonable in terms of peaceful protest – will not be tolerated.”

For the second year running the march will be held along the seafront road, the A259, with the hope of isolating any trouble.

It was thought yesterday’s road collapse could see the march cancelled, but police have decided to instead shift the starting point a hundred yards further along.

The march, which is due to start at 12.30pm, will go east along King’s Road to Pool Valley before returning to Middle Street.

A number of roads connected to the seafront will be closed to traffic including Middle Street, Ship Street, Black Lion Street, East Street, Little East Street and the A259 from the Palace Pier roundabout.

Event organisers, who stage the march on the Sunday nearest to St George’s Day, say it is “a celebration of being English”.

Meanwhile, anti-protesters have branded it as nothing more than an opportunity for open racism and violence.

The Argus contacted March for England organisers but at the time of going to press they had not responded.

However, a statement on their website read: “We welcome everyone to March for England, regardless of colour, culture or religion or non-religion.

“United we can make this country a more better place, free from a undemocratic government that ignores the people, free from hardline extremists of all religions or fascist groups that bring non cohesion and so much more.

“We are English and proud – proud not racist.”

Traditionally, those taking part in the march have been heavily outnumbered by anti fascist activists.Tony Campbell, from Stop the March for England, told The Argus the same was expected on Sunday.

He said: “We will drown out their message and show that Brighton and Hove is not going to put up with the message they are hoping to spread.”

For all the latest on the day including a live blog see www.theargus.co.uk. For a full report and pictures see Monday’s paper.

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10:21am Sat 26 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

This article is exactly what I would expect from a controlled media.Unfortunately at these events both sides the march for England and the UAF attracts an extremist element.Thankfully this year the police are going to make anyone with there face covered remove it,after all why have they got there face covered?.Just like the march for England started off as a peacefull march then attracted an extremist element,the government funded UAF has now also attracted an extremist element.In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today.The UAF also now attends events by the UKIP to shout abuse to people.So rather than just believe what you read in the Argus and see on TV,dont just assume the people with the covered faces are on the march for England as the opposite is usually true.The Argus predictably is on the UAF side as like most people think people hiding behind the name are peacefull,but just watch youtube and you can see one of LEE RIGBYs murderers actually doing speeches at UAF events.I wont be going near the event as I know BOTH sides of this march attract a violent element,and I hope the police come down heavy on any side that commits an offence but one thing we can guarantee is the MEDIA wont report on what actually happens fairly at the event,as this article by the argus proves.
This article is exactly what I would expect from a controlled media.Unfortunately at these events both sides the march for England and the UAF attracts an extremist element.Thankfully this year the police are going to make anyone with there face covered remove it,after all why have they got there face covered?.Just like the march for England started off as a peacefull march then attracted an extremist element,the government funded UAF has now also attracted an extremist element.In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today.The UAF also now attends events by the UKIP to shout abuse to people.So rather than just believe what you read in the Argus and see on TV,dont just assume the people with the covered faces are on the march for England as the opposite is usually true.The Argus predictably is on the UAF side as like most people think people hiding behind the name are peacefull,but just watch youtube and you can see one of LEE RIGBYs murderers actually doing speeches at UAF events.I wont be going near the event as I know BOTH sides of this march attract a violent element,and I hope the police come down heavy on any side that commits an offence but one thing we can guarantee is the MEDIA wont report on what actually happens fairly at the event,as this article by the argus proves. clubrob6
  • Score: 20

11:02am Sat 26 Apr 14

Sake Dean Mohammed says...

OK. Firstly, I am not a member of any group such as the UAF, Anti-Nazi League, Green Party, Antifa, whatever. I am just a resident. I do not want these people marching in my hometown, where integration works, and the majority of people live and let live. I will be with my family at the counter-protest. The MfE have chosen Brighton because it annoys them that almost everyone gets along from all backgrounds regardless of race, sexuality, colour or religion. Brighton is a thorn in their side because it proves it can be done without losing any Britishness whatsoever. There IS a massive difference between the left wing and right wing groups. Who exactly in day to day life do the left wing pick on simply for the colour of their skin, their religion or their sexuality? They don't. It's always the right wing (just look at UKIP's Andre Lampitt today). This is why it's different. It is ridiculous to read comments elsewhere that both sides are as bad as each other. They are not.
OK. Firstly, I am not a member of any group such as the UAF, Anti-Nazi League, Green Party, Antifa, whatever. I am just a resident. I do not want these people marching in my hometown, where integration works, and the majority of people live and let live. I will be with my family at the counter-protest. The MfE have chosen Brighton because it annoys them that almost everyone gets along from all backgrounds regardless of race, sexuality, colour or religion. Brighton is a thorn in their side because it proves it can be done without losing any Britishness whatsoever. There IS a massive difference between the left wing and right wing groups. Who exactly in day to day life do the left wing pick on simply for the colour of their skin, their religion or their sexuality? They don't. It's always the right wing (just look at UKIP's Andre Lampitt today). This is why it's different. It is ridiculous to read comments elsewhere that both sides are as bad as each other. They are not. Sake Dean Mohammed
  • Score: 38

11:08am Sat 26 Apr 14

nuttyju says...

Sake Dean Mohammed wrote:
OK. Firstly, I am not a member of any group such as the UAF, Anti-Nazi League, Green Party, Antifa, whatever. I am just a resident. I do not want these people marching in my hometown, where integration works, and the majority of people live and let live. I will be with my family at the counter-protest. The MfE have chosen Brighton because it annoys them that almost everyone gets along from all backgrounds regardless of race, sexuality, colour or religion. Brighton is a thorn in their side because it proves it can be done without losing any Britishness whatsoever. There IS a massive difference between the left wing and right wing groups. Who exactly in day to day life do the left wing pick on simply for the colour of their skin, their religion or their sexuality? They don't. It's always the right wing (just look at UKIP's Andre Lampitt today). This is why it's different. It is ridiculous to read comments elsewhere that both sides are as bad as each other. They are not.
Your not with UAF or any other left wing groups but you will stand with them against the Patriots, by taking part you are part of the problem
[quote][p][bold]Sake Dean Mohammed[/bold] wrote: OK. Firstly, I am not a member of any group such as the UAF, Anti-Nazi League, Green Party, Antifa, whatever. I am just a resident. I do not want these people marching in my hometown, where integration works, and the majority of people live and let live. I will be with my family at the counter-protest. The MfE have chosen Brighton because it annoys them that almost everyone gets along from all backgrounds regardless of race, sexuality, colour or religion. Brighton is a thorn in their side because it proves it can be done without losing any Britishness whatsoever. There IS a massive difference between the left wing and right wing groups. Who exactly in day to day life do the left wing pick on simply for the colour of their skin, their religion or their sexuality? They don't. It's always the right wing (just look at UKIP's Andre Lampitt today). This is why it's different. It is ridiculous to read comments elsewhere that both sides are as bad as each other. They are not.[/p][/quote]Your not with UAF or any other left wing groups but you will stand with them against the Patriots, by taking part you are part of the problem nuttyju
  • Score: -18

11:08am Sat 26 Apr 14

Ambo Guy says...

Why not just give the nutty left wing UAF and the right wing morons MFE a whole arsenal of weapons, lock them in a room together and let nature take it's course.

Surely that would just be natural selection taking them out of the gene pool.
Why not just give the nutty left wing UAF and the right wing morons MFE a whole arsenal of weapons, lock them in a room together and let nature take it's course. Surely that would just be natural selection taking them out of the gene pool. Ambo Guy
  • Score: 2

11:19am Sat 26 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

Sake Dean Mohammed wrote:
OK. Firstly, I am not a member of any group such as the UAF, Anti-Nazi League, Green Party, Antifa, whatever. I am just a resident. I do not want these people marching in my hometown, where integration works, and the majority of people live and let live. I will be with my family at the counter-protest. The MfE have chosen Brighton because it annoys them that almost everyone gets along from all backgrounds regardless of race, sexuality, colour or religion. Brighton is a thorn in their side because it proves it can be done without losing any Britishness whatsoever. There IS a massive difference between the left wing and right wing groups. Who exactly in day to day life do the left wing pick on simply for the colour of their skin, their religion or their sexuality? They don't. It's always the right wing (just look at UKIP's Andre Lampitt today). This is why it's different. It is ridiculous to read comments elsewhere that both sides are as bad as each other. They are not.
I am also NOT a member of any group and agree brighton is a place where we all intergrate very well.But to say the UAF are a peacefull group is totally wrong.Both sides attract an extremist element,both sides have people with there faces covered,which the police are going to stop this year.I always say a picture says a thousand words look on youtube it was the UAF in masks that were throwing things at police horses.To me both sides of this march are as bad as each other.The event is certainly not one for children to attend,there were children attending last year I believe a child got injured by a missile thrown by the UAF.I was up in Cumbria on the 23rd where I seen flags flying all over the place,bars were having party nights if it happens down south unfortunately it offends people.The police have a very difficult job to do and I hope they come down heavy on anyone even the ones hiding behind the UAF name who break the law.
[quote][p][bold]Sake Dean Mohammed[/bold] wrote: OK. Firstly, I am not a member of any group such as the UAF, Anti-Nazi League, Green Party, Antifa, whatever. I am just a resident. I do not want these people marching in my hometown, where integration works, and the majority of people live and let live. I will be with my family at the counter-protest. The MfE have chosen Brighton because it annoys them that almost everyone gets along from all backgrounds regardless of race, sexuality, colour or religion. Brighton is a thorn in their side because it proves it can be done without losing any Britishness whatsoever. There IS a massive difference between the left wing and right wing groups. Who exactly in day to day life do the left wing pick on simply for the colour of their skin, their religion or their sexuality? They don't. It's always the right wing (just look at UKIP's Andre Lampitt today). This is why it's different. It is ridiculous to read comments elsewhere that both sides are as bad as each other. They are not.[/p][/quote]I am also NOT a member of any group and agree brighton is a place where we all intergrate very well.But to say the UAF are a peacefull group is totally wrong.Both sides attract an extremist element,both sides have people with there faces covered,which the police are going to stop this year.I always say a picture says a thousand words look on youtube it was the UAF in masks that were throwing things at police horses.To me both sides of this march are as bad as each other.The event is certainly not one for children to attend,there were children attending last year I believe a child got injured by a missile thrown by the UAF.I was up in Cumbria on the 23rd where I seen flags flying all over the place,bars were having party nights if it happens down south unfortunately it offends people.The police have a very difficult job to do and I hope they come down heavy on anyone even the ones hiding behind the UAF name who break the law. clubrob6
  • Score: 12

11:21am Sat 26 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

Ambo Guy wrote:
Why not just give the nutty left wing UAF and the right wing morons MFE a whole arsenal of weapons, lock them in a room together and let nature take it's course.

Surely that would just be natural selection taking them out of the gene pool.
My point exactly both sides have now got an extremist element,not just the side the media reports on.
[quote][p][bold]Ambo Guy[/bold] wrote: Why not just give the nutty left wing UAF and the right wing morons MFE a whole arsenal of weapons, lock them in a room together and let nature take it's course. Surely that would just be natural selection taking them out of the gene pool.[/p][/quote]My point exactly both sides have now got an extremist element,not just the side the media reports on. clubrob6
  • Score: 12

11:51am Sat 26 Apr 14

Sake Dean Mohammed says...

I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.
I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration. Sake Dean Mohammed
  • Score: 4

12:25pm Sat 26 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

Sake Dean Mohammed wrote:
I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.
Far right flyers?i have seen none floating around perhaps you are part of the problem.You are also taking it for granted that everyone in the crowds are against the march for England.I am pleased you have admitted the UAF are NOT a peacefull group as that is my point they are anything but and have attracted a certain element of extremists hiding behind a name.I call them UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.But you have decided to go and back them anyway.The best thing to do with such events is avoid them as BOTH sides are equally to blame for an extremist element.Keep away it will make the polices job a lot easier too so they can concentrate on keeping order and arresting anyone from both sides that break the law.
[quote][p][bold]Sake Dean Mohammed[/bold] wrote: I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.[/p][/quote]Far right flyers?i have seen none floating around perhaps you are part of the problem.You are also taking it for granted that everyone in the crowds are against the march for England.I am pleased you have admitted the UAF are NOT a peacefull group as that is my point they are anything but and have attracted a certain element of extremists hiding behind a name.I call them UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM.But you have decided to go and back them anyway.The best thing to do with such events is avoid them as BOTH sides are equally to blame for an extremist element.Keep away it will make the polices job a lot easier too so they can concentrate on keeping order and arresting anyone from both sides that break the law. clubrob6
  • Score: 0

12:36pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

The march has never attracted more than one hundred and fifty and even the first two years when unopposed had a large police presence. The policing cost half a million last year and businesses will be closed for the day.
How their right to free speech would have been affected by having it away from the centre at a site easier to police I don't know. Other forces have saved money and disruption by using a carpark or similar elsewhere.
The marchers had planned to mingle with those opposing- last year that meant charging in, throwing a punch and being rescued by plod.
The webchat with sussex police refused to divulge whose decision it was to approve the event- why?
The march has never attracted more than one hundred and fifty and even the first two years when unopposed had a large police presence. The policing cost half a million last year and businesses will be closed for the day. How their right to free speech would have been affected by having it away from the centre at a site easier to police I don't know. Other forces have saved money and disruption by using a carpark or similar elsewhere. The marchers had planned to mingle with those opposing- last year that meant charging in, throwing a punch and being rescued by plod. The webchat with sussex police refused to divulge whose decision it was to approve the event- why? Arrggh
  • Score: 13

1:31pm Sat 26 Apr 14

derekhunt says...

Arrggh wrote:
The march has never attracted more than one hundred and fifty and even the first two years when unopposed had a large police presence. The policing cost half a million last year and businesses will be closed for the day.
How their right to free speech would have been affected by having it away from the centre at a site easier to police I don't know. Other forces have saved money and disruption by using a carpark or similar elsewhere.
The marchers had planned to mingle with those opposing- last year that meant charging in, throwing a punch and being rescued by plod.
The webchat with sussex police refused to divulge whose decision it was to approve the event- why?
It's not an 'event' in the same way Pride is or the Brighton Festival. It's a protest.
They don't give a yes or a no. The protesters are going to come anyway. The police do what they can to work with them
You're very naïve to imagine that if the police had said' no you can't come' then we'd have been spared all of this
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: The march has never attracted more than one hundred and fifty and even the first two years when unopposed had a large police presence. The policing cost half a million last year and businesses will be closed for the day. How their right to free speech would have been affected by having it away from the centre at a site easier to police I don't know. Other forces have saved money and disruption by using a carpark or similar elsewhere. The marchers had planned to mingle with those opposing- last year that meant charging in, throwing a punch and being rescued by plod. The webchat with sussex police refused to divulge whose decision it was to approve the event- why?[/p][/quote]It's not an 'event' in the same way Pride is or the Brighton Festival. It's a protest. They don't give a yes or a no. The protesters are going to come anyway. The police do what they can to work with them You're very naïve to imagine that if the police had said' no you can't come' then we'd have been spared all of this derekhunt
  • Score: 4

1:43pm Sat 26 Apr 14

a person says...

I am not so sure that ..
“”The MfE have chosen Brighton because it annoys them that almost everyone gets along from all backgrounds regardless of race, sexuality, colour or religion. Brighton is a thorn in their side because it proves it can be done . without losing any Britishness whatsoever.””

I would not say that everybody in Brighton and Hove gets along together.

We have lost freedom of speech in England.
It wasn’t that long ago that ,
there was a hearing accusing Brighton and Hove city councillor Dawn Barnett of being racist for saying that golliwogs were “nostalgic”,

There have been cases of white !! People being arrested as racist ,
in arguments with foreign people . Never the other way round.

People born and brought up in Brighton going to fight in other countries.
(( are they happy to call themselves British ))

People being mugged and raped.

There has been cases of homosexuals being beaten up .

I would say Brighton is no different from any other town.

The backed by governments uaf is proof that
in many places multiculturalism is not alive and well .
I am not so sure that .. “”The MfE have chosen Brighton because it annoys them that almost everyone gets along from all backgrounds regardless of race, sexuality, colour or religion. Brighton is a thorn in their side because it proves it can be done . without losing any Britishness whatsoever.”” I would not say that everybody in Brighton and Hove gets along together. We have lost freedom of speech in England. It wasn’t that long ago that , there was a hearing accusing Brighton and Hove city councillor Dawn Barnett of being racist for saying that golliwogs were “nostalgic”, There have been cases of white !! People being arrested as racist , in arguments with foreign people . Never the other way round. People born and brought up in Brighton going to fight in other countries. (( are they happy to call themselves British )) People being mugged and raped. There has been cases of homosexuals being beaten up . I would say Brighton is no different from any other town. The backed by governments uaf is proof that in many places multiculturalism is not alive and well . a person
  • Score: -2

2:10pm Sat 26 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

a person wrote:
I am not so sure that ..
“”The MfE have chosen Brighton because it annoys them that almost everyone gets along from all backgrounds regardless of race, sexuality, colour or religion. Brighton is a thorn in their side because it proves it can be done . without losing any Britishness whatsoever.””

I would not say that everybody in Brighton and Hove gets along together.

We have lost freedom of speech in England.
It wasn’t that long ago that ,
there was a hearing accusing Brighton and Hove city councillor Dawn Barnett of being racist for saying that golliwogs were “nostalgic”,

There have been cases of white !! People being arrested as racist ,
in arguments with foreign people . Never the other way round.

People born and brought up in Brighton going to fight in other countries.
(( are they happy to call themselves British ))

People being mugged and raped.

There has been cases of homosexuals being beaten up .

I would say Brighton is no different from any other town.

The backed by governments uaf is proof that
in many places multiculturalism is not alive and well .
You have just said what I hear on a regular basis,i think the media is to blame for its one sided reporting.Most arrests are made from the government funded UAF,Unite Against Freedom I call them.These marches just attract extremists from all sides.The golliwog event in the council shows how stupid things have got,in Cumbria Labour got two coucillors arrested in Maryport for using a English phrase Pay Peanuts Get Monkies the court threw the case out.Even the Argus wont report if there are any arrests from the UAF side tomorrow.
[quote][p][bold]a person[/bold] wrote: I am not so sure that .. “”The MfE have chosen Brighton because it annoys them that almost everyone gets along from all backgrounds regardless of race, sexuality, colour or religion. Brighton is a thorn in their side because it proves it can be done . without losing any Britishness whatsoever.”” I would not say that everybody in Brighton and Hove gets along together. We have lost freedom of speech in England. It wasn’t that long ago that , there was a hearing accusing Brighton and Hove city councillor Dawn Barnett of being racist for saying that golliwogs were “nostalgic”, There have been cases of white !! People being arrested as racist , in arguments with foreign people . Never the other way round. People born and brought up in Brighton going to fight in other countries. (( are they happy to call themselves British )) People being mugged and raped. There has been cases of homosexuals being beaten up . I would say Brighton is no different from any other town. The backed by governments uaf is proof that in many places multiculturalism is not alive and well .[/p][/quote]You have just said what I hear on a regular basis,i think the media is to blame for its one sided reporting.Most arrests are made from the government funded UAF,Unite Against Freedom I call them.These marches just attract extremists from all sides.The golliwog event in the council shows how stupid things have got,in Cumbria Labour got two coucillors arrested in Maryport for using a English phrase Pay Peanuts Get Monkies the court threw the case out.Even the Argus wont report if there are any arrests from the UAF side tomorrow. clubrob6
  • Score: 5

2:17pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

derekhunt wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
The march has never attracted more than one hundred and fifty and even the first two years when unopposed had a large police presence. The policing cost half a million last year and businesses will be closed for the day.
How their right to free speech would have been affected by having it away from the centre at a site easier to police I don't know. Other forces have saved money and disruption by using a carpark or similar elsewhere.
The marchers had planned to mingle with those opposing- last year that meant charging in, throwing a punch and being rescued by plod.
The webchat with sussex police refused to divulge whose decision it was to approve the event- why?
It's not an 'event' in the same way Pride is or the Brighton Festival. It's a protest.
They don't give a yes or a no. The protesters are going to come anyway. The police do what they can to work with them
You're very naïve to imagine that if the police had said' no you can't come' then we'd have been spared all of this
It was the polices choice to site the march in an area that will cause a huge amount of disruption instead of away fro the centre. It was their choice to go to such lengths and spend so much money to facilitate it.
In other places such events have been sited out of the way in a carpark, saving money in lost business and police costs. Why not with MfE?
You think they would come anyway without four times as many police assisting in every way possible?
Even if you count the counter demonstrators half a million is expensive for less than two thousand people.
When Brighton played Palace last year it didn't cost that much and caused a lot less disruption.
[quote][p][bold]derekhunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: The march has never attracted more than one hundred and fifty and even the first two years when unopposed had a large police presence. The policing cost half a million last year and businesses will be closed for the day. How their right to free speech would have been affected by having it away from the centre at a site easier to police I don't know. Other forces have saved money and disruption by using a carpark or similar elsewhere. The marchers had planned to mingle with those opposing- last year that meant charging in, throwing a punch and being rescued by plod. The webchat with sussex police refused to divulge whose decision it was to approve the event- why?[/p][/quote]It's not an 'event' in the same way Pride is or the Brighton Festival. It's a protest. They don't give a yes or a no. The protesters are going to come anyway. The police do what they can to work with them You're very naïve to imagine that if the police had said' no you can't come' then we'd have been spared all of this[/p][/quote]It was the polices choice to site the march in an area that will cause a huge amount of disruption instead of away fro the centre. It was their choice to go to such lengths and spend so much money to facilitate it. In other places such events have been sited out of the way in a carpark, saving money in lost business and police costs. Why not with MfE? You think they would come anyway without four times as many police assisting in every way possible? Even if you count the counter demonstrators half a million is expensive for less than two thousand people. When Brighton played Palace last year it didn't cost that much and caused a lot less disruption. Arrggh
  • Score: 1

3:41pm Sat 26 Apr 14

JHunty says...

Arrggh wrote:
derekhunt wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
The march has never attracted more than one hundred and fifty and even the first two years when unopposed had a large police presence. The policing cost half a million last year and businesses will be closed for the day.
How their right to free speech would have been affected by having it away from the centre at a site easier to police I don't know. Other forces have saved money and disruption by using a carpark or similar elsewhere.
The marchers had planned to mingle with those opposing- last year that meant charging in, throwing a punch and being rescued by plod.
The webchat with sussex police refused to divulge whose decision it was to approve the event- why?
It's not an 'event' in the same way Pride is or the Brighton Festival. It's a protest.
They don't give a yes or a no. The protesters are going to come anyway. The police do what they can to work with them
You're very naïve to imagine that if the police had said' no you can't come' then we'd have been spared all of this
It was the polices choice to site the march in an area that will cause a huge amount of disruption instead of away fro the centre. It was their choice to go to such lengths and spend so much money to facilitate it.
In other places such events have been sited out of the way in a carpark, saving money in lost business and police costs. Why not with MfE?
You think they would come anyway without four times as many police assisting in every way possible?
Even if you count the counter demonstrators half a million is expensive for less than two thousand people.
When Brighton played Palace last year it didn't cost that much and caused a lot less disruption.
You should take your tinfoil hat off because your stupid conspiracy theories are just that. Stupid nonsense. The police don't approve a march or an event, they can only apply to the home office to prevent a demo if they have evidence that significant violence is planned. They have a duty to facilitate peaceful protest and protestors have a right to hold a protest in an area where it can have an impact.
You have continually tried to make out the police are in favour of The MFE, in you talk about the police "assisting in every way possible" that isn't true and is a claim by you designed purely to try and make the police look like they support right wing groups. You clearly have exactly that as an agenda and for some reason don't seem able to recognise that is in fact the UAF/Smashedo that have in years gone by received exactly the same service from the police on their marches and who now are trying to use violence to prevent others from claiming the same rights they claimed for themselves.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derekhunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: The march has never attracted more than one hundred and fifty and even the first two years when unopposed had a large police presence. The policing cost half a million last year and businesses will be closed for the day. How their right to free speech would have been affected by having it away from the centre at a site easier to police I don't know. Other forces have saved money and disruption by using a carpark or similar elsewhere. The marchers had planned to mingle with those opposing- last year that meant charging in, throwing a punch and being rescued by plod. The webchat with sussex police refused to divulge whose decision it was to approve the event- why?[/p][/quote]It's not an 'event' in the same way Pride is or the Brighton Festival. It's a protest. They don't give a yes or a no. The protesters are going to come anyway. The police do what they can to work with them You're very naïve to imagine that if the police had said' no you can't come' then we'd have been spared all of this[/p][/quote]It was the polices choice to site the march in an area that will cause a huge amount of disruption instead of away fro the centre. It was their choice to go to such lengths and spend so much money to facilitate it. In other places such events have been sited out of the way in a carpark, saving money in lost business and police costs. Why not with MfE? You think they would come anyway without four times as many police assisting in every way possible? Even if you count the counter demonstrators half a million is expensive for less than two thousand people. When Brighton played Palace last year it didn't cost that much and caused a lot less disruption.[/p][/quote]You should take your tinfoil hat off because your stupid conspiracy theories are just that. Stupid nonsense. The police don't approve a march or an event, they can only apply to the home office to prevent a demo if they have evidence that significant violence is planned. They have a duty to facilitate peaceful protest and protestors have a right to hold a protest in an area where it can have an impact. You have continually tried to make out the police are in favour of The MFE, in you talk about the police "assisting in every way possible" that isn't true and is a claim by you designed purely to try and make the police look like they support right wing groups. You clearly have exactly that as an agenda and for some reason don't seem able to recognise that is in fact the UAF/Smashedo that have in years gone by received exactly the same service from the police on their marches and who now are trying to use violence to prevent others from claiming the same rights they claimed for themselves. JHunty
  • Score: 6

4:05pm Sat 26 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

JHunty wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
derekhunt wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
The march has never attracted more than one hundred and fifty and even the first two years when unopposed had a large police presence. The policing cost half a million last year and businesses will be closed for the day.
How their right to free speech would have been affected by having it away from the centre at a site easier to police I don't know. Other forces have saved money and disruption by using a carpark or similar elsewhere.
The marchers had planned to mingle with those opposing- last year that meant charging in, throwing a punch and being rescued by plod.
The webchat with sussex police refused to divulge whose decision it was to approve the event- why?
It's not an 'event' in the same way Pride is or the Brighton Festival. It's a protest.
They don't give a yes or a no. The protesters are going to come anyway. The police do what they can to work with them
You're very naïve to imagine that if the police had said' no you can't come' then we'd have been spared all of this
It was the polices choice to site the march in an area that will cause a huge amount of disruption instead of away fro the centre. It was their choice to go to such lengths and spend so much money to facilitate it.
In other places such events have been sited out of the way in a carpark, saving money in lost business and police costs. Why not with MfE?
You think they would come anyway without four times as many police assisting in every way possible?
Even if you count the counter demonstrators half a million is expensive for less than two thousand people.
When Brighton played Palace last year it didn't cost that much and caused a lot less disruption.
You should take your tinfoil hat off because your stupid conspiracy theories are just that. Stupid nonsense. The police don't approve a march or an event, they can only apply to the home office to prevent a demo if they have evidence that significant violence is planned. They have a duty to facilitate peaceful protest and protestors have a right to hold a protest in an area where it can have an impact.
You have continually tried to make out the police are in favour of The MFE, in you talk about the police "assisting in every way possible" that isn't true and is a claim by you designed purely to try and make the police look like they support right wing groups. You clearly have exactly that as an agenda and for some reason don't seem able to recognise that is in fact the UAF/Smashedo that have in years gone by received exactly the same service from the police on their marches and who now are trying to use violence to prevent others from claiming the same rights they claimed for themselves.
The point you are making is very valid,a point that gets ignored by the media is that the UAF are the ones that are using violence.I would like to see the media report on such events without bias.The media ignore the arrests from the UAF and make big of arrests from the march for England,giving the impression that the people with masks on are MFE when most are actually the UAF.Thankfully this year the police are going to make all sides take face covering off.I just find it difficult to understand why the media support the government funded UAF which also has a extremist element.The police quite rightly take any law breaking seriously from both sides,but the media ignore the facts of these events.Although the name UAF sounds good it has become a very violent group which I now call Unite Against Freedom.I will avoid tomorrow as I disagree with the violent element from both sides.
[quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derekhunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: The march has never attracted more than one hundred and fifty and even the first two years when unopposed had a large police presence. The policing cost half a million last year and businesses will be closed for the day. How their right to free speech would have been affected by having it away from the centre at a site easier to police I don't know. Other forces have saved money and disruption by using a carpark or similar elsewhere. The marchers had planned to mingle with those opposing- last year that meant charging in, throwing a punch and being rescued by plod. The webchat with sussex police refused to divulge whose decision it was to approve the event- why?[/p][/quote]It's not an 'event' in the same way Pride is or the Brighton Festival. It's a protest. They don't give a yes or a no. The protesters are going to come anyway. The police do what they can to work with them You're very naïve to imagine that if the police had said' no you can't come' then we'd have been spared all of this[/p][/quote]It was the polices choice to site the march in an area that will cause a huge amount of disruption instead of away fro the centre. It was their choice to go to such lengths and spend so much money to facilitate it. In other places such events have been sited out of the way in a carpark, saving money in lost business and police costs. Why not with MfE? You think they would come anyway without four times as many police assisting in every way possible? Even if you count the counter demonstrators half a million is expensive for less than two thousand people. When Brighton played Palace last year it didn't cost that much and caused a lot less disruption.[/p][/quote]You should take your tinfoil hat off because your stupid conspiracy theories are just that. Stupid nonsense. The police don't approve a march or an event, they can only apply to the home office to prevent a demo if they have evidence that significant violence is planned. They have a duty to facilitate peaceful protest and protestors have a right to hold a protest in an area where it can have an impact. You have continually tried to make out the police are in favour of The MFE, in you talk about the police "assisting in every way possible" that isn't true and is a claim by you designed purely to try and make the police look like they support right wing groups. You clearly have exactly that as an agenda and for some reason don't seem able to recognise that is in fact the UAF/Smashedo that have in years gone by received exactly the same service from the police on their marches and who now are trying to use violence to prevent others from claiming the same rights they claimed for themselves.[/p][/quote]The point you are making is very valid,a point that gets ignored by the media is that the UAF are the ones that are using violence.I would like to see the media report on such events without bias.The media ignore the arrests from the UAF and make big of arrests from the march for England,giving the impression that the people with masks on are MFE when most are actually the UAF.Thankfully this year the police are going to make all sides take face covering off.I just find it difficult to understand why the media support the government funded UAF which also has a extremist element.The police quite rightly take any law breaking seriously from both sides,but the media ignore the facts of these events.Although the name UAF sounds good it has become a very violent group which I now call Unite Against Freedom.I will avoid tomorrow as I disagree with the violent element from both sides. clubrob6
  • Score: 7

5:15pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

JHunty wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
derekhunt wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
The march has never attracted more than one hundred and fifty and even the first two years when unopposed had a large police presence. The policing cost half a million last year and businesses will be closed for the day.
How their right to free speech would have been affected by having it away from the centre at a site easier to police I don't know. Other forces have saved money and disruption by using a carpark or similar elsewhere.
The marchers had planned to mingle with those opposing- last year that meant charging in, throwing a punch and being rescued by plod.
The webchat with sussex police refused to divulge whose decision it was to approve the event- why?
It's not an 'event' in the same way Pride is or the Brighton Festival. It's a protest.
They don't give a yes or a no. The protesters are going to come anyway. The police do what they can to work with them
You're very naïve to imagine that if the police had said' no you can't come' then we'd have been spared all of this
It was the polices choice to site the march in an area that will cause a huge amount of disruption instead of away fro the centre. It was their choice to go to such lengths and spend so much money to facilitate it.
In other places such events have been sited out of the way in a carpark, saving money in lost business and police costs. Why not with MfE?
You think they would come anyway without four times as many police assisting in every way possible?
Even if you count the counter demonstrators half a million is expensive for less than two thousand people.
When Brighton played Palace last year it didn't cost that much and caused a lot less disruption.
You should take your tinfoil hat off because your stupid conspiracy theories are just that. Stupid nonsense. The police don't approve a march or an event, they can only apply to the home office to prevent a demo if they have evidence that significant violence is planned. They have a duty to facilitate peaceful protest and protestors have a right to hold a protest in an area where it can have an impact.
You have continually tried to make out the police are in favour of The MFE, in you talk about the police "assisting in every way possible" that isn't true and is a claim by you designed purely to try and make the police look like they support right wing groups. You clearly have exactly that as an agenda and for some reason don't seem able to recognise that is in fact the UAF/Smashedo that have in years gone by received exactly the same service from the police on their marches and who now are trying to use violence to prevent others from claiming the same rights they claimed for themselves.
JHunty- do you really think smashedo events or the Balcome protest get treated in the same way as MfE?
I questioned the wisdom of some of the decisions made by the police- what conspiracy are you on about?
Why does the march have to be in the centre? They could have just as much free speech and cause less disruption elsewhere. The threats made every year to the cities residents would give ample reason not to approve the march going ahead. If this is really no different from other protests can you give an example of another that is policed in the same way?
[quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derekhunt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: The march has never attracted more than one hundred and fifty and even the first two years when unopposed had a large police presence. The policing cost half a million last year and businesses will be closed for the day. How their right to free speech would have been affected by having it away from the centre at a site easier to police I don't know. Other forces have saved money and disruption by using a carpark or similar elsewhere. The marchers had planned to mingle with those opposing- last year that meant charging in, throwing a punch and being rescued by plod. The webchat with sussex police refused to divulge whose decision it was to approve the event- why?[/p][/quote]It's not an 'event' in the same way Pride is or the Brighton Festival. It's a protest. They don't give a yes or a no. The protesters are going to come anyway. The police do what they can to work with them You're very naïve to imagine that if the police had said' no you can't come' then we'd have been spared all of this[/p][/quote]It was the polices choice to site the march in an area that will cause a huge amount of disruption instead of away fro the centre. It was their choice to go to such lengths and spend so much money to facilitate it. In other places such events have been sited out of the way in a carpark, saving money in lost business and police costs. Why not with MfE? You think they would come anyway without four times as many police assisting in every way possible? Even if you count the counter demonstrators half a million is expensive for less than two thousand people. When Brighton played Palace last year it didn't cost that much and caused a lot less disruption.[/p][/quote]You should take your tinfoil hat off because your stupid conspiracy theories are just that. Stupid nonsense. The police don't approve a march or an event, they can only apply to the home office to prevent a demo if they have evidence that significant violence is planned. They have a duty to facilitate peaceful protest and protestors have a right to hold a protest in an area where it can have an impact. You have continually tried to make out the police are in favour of The MFE, in you talk about the police "assisting in every way possible" that isn't true and is a claim by you designed purely to try and make the police look like they support right wing groups. You clearly have exactly that as an agenda and for some reason don't seem able to recognise that is in fact the UAF/Smashedo that have in years gone by received exactly the same service from the police on their marches and who now are trying to use violence to prevent others from claiming the same rights they claimed for themselves.[/p][/quote]JHunty- do you really think smashedo events or the Balcome protest get treated in the same way as MfE? I questioned the wisdom of some of the decisions made by the police- what conspiracy are you on about? Why does the march have to be in the centre? They could have just as much free speech and cause less disruption elsewhere. The threats made every year to the cities residents would give ample reason not to approve the march going ahead. If this is really no different from other protests can you give an example of another that is policed in the same way? Arrggh
  • Score: 2

5:17pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Andy R says...

nuttyju wrote:
Sake Dean Mohammed wrote:
OK. Firstly, I am not a member of any group such as the UAF, Anti-Nazi League, Green Party, Antifa, whatever. I am just a resident. I do not want these people marching in my hometown, where integration works, and the majority of people live and let live. I will be with my family at the counter-protest. The MfE have chosen Brighton because it annoys them that almost everyone gets along from all backgrounds regardless of race, sexuality, colour or religion. Brighton is a thorn in their side because it proves it can be done without losing any Britishness whatsoever. There IS a massive difference between the left wing and right wing groups. Who exactly in day to day life do the left wing pick on simply for the colour of their skin, their religion or their sexuality? They don't. It's always the right wing (just look at UKIP's Andre Lampitt today). This is why it's different. It is ridiculous to read comments elsewhere that both sides are as bad as each other. They are not.
Your not with UAF or any other left wing groups but you will stand with them against the Patriots, by taking part you are part of the problem
"YOU'RE not with UAF", I think you mean.

Pride in the language!
[quote][p][bold]nuttyju[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sake Dean Mohammed[/bold] wrote: OK. Firstly, I am not a member of any group such as the UAF, Anti-Nazi League, Green Party, Antifa, whatever. I am just a resident. I do not want these people marching in my hometown, where integration works, and the majority of people live and let live. I will be with my family at the counter-protest. The MfE have chosen Brighton because it annoys them that almost everyone gets along from all backgrounds regardless of race, sexuality, colour or religion. Brighton is a thorn in their side because it proves it can be done without losing any Britishness whatsoever. There IS a massive difference between the left wing and right wing groups. Who exactly in day to day life do the left wing pick on simply for the colour of their skin, their religion or their sexuality? They don't. It's always the right wing (just look at UKIP's Andre Lampitt today). This is why it's different. It is ridiculous to read comments elsewhere that both sides are as bad as each other. They are not.[/p][/quote]Your not with UAF or any other left wing groups but you will stand with them against the Patriots, by taking part you are part of the problem[/p][/quote]"YOU'RE not with UAF", I think you mean. Pride in the language! Andy R
  • Score: 4

5:19pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Andy R says...

clubrob6 wrote:
a person wrote:
I am not so sure that ..
“”The MfE have chosen Brighton because it annoys them that almost everyone gets along from all backgrounds regardless of race, sexuality, colour or religion. Brighton is a thorn in their side because it proves it can be done . without losing any Britishness whatsoever.””

I would not say that everybody in Brighton and Hove gets along together.

We have lost freedom of speech in England.
It wasn’t that long ago that ,
there was a hearing accusing Brighton and Hove city councillor Dawn Barnett of being racist for saying that golliwogs were “nostalgic”,

There have been cases of white !! People being arrested as racist ,
in arguments with foreign people . Never the other way round.

People born and brought up in Brighton going to fight in other countries.
(( are they happy to call themselves British ))

People being mugged and raped.

There has been cases of homosexuals being beaten up .

I would say Brighton is no different from any other town.

The backed by governments uaf is proof that
in many places multiculturalism is not alive and well .
You have just said what I hear on a regular basis,i think the media is to blame for its one sided reporting.Most arrests are made from the government funded UAF,Unite Against Freedom I call them.These marches just attract extremists from all sides.The golliwog event in the council shows how stupid things have got,in Cumbria Labour got two coucillors arrested in Maryport for using a English phrase Pay Peanuts Get Monkies the court threw the case out.Even the Argus wont report if there are any arrests from the UAF side tomorrow.
Monkeys, not "Monkies"

Pride in the language!
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]a person[/bold] wrote: I am not so sure that .. “”The MfE have chosen Brighton because it annoys them that almost everyone gets along from all backgrounds regardless of race, sexuality, colour or religion. Brighton is a thorn in their side because it proves it can be done . without losing any Britishness whatsoever.”” I would not say that everybody in Brighton and Hove gets along together. We have lost freedom of speech in England. It wasn’t that long ago that , there was a hearing accusing Brighton and Hove city councillor Dawn Barnett of being racist for saying that golliwogs were “nostalgic”, There have been cases of white !! People being arrested as racist , in arguments with foreign people . Never the other way round. People born and brought up in Brighton going to fight in other countries. (( are they happy to call themselves British )) People being mugged and raped. There has been cases of homosexuals being beaten up . I would say Brighton is no different from any other town. The backed by governments uaf is proof that in many places multiculturalism is not alive and well .[/p][/quote]You have just said what I hear on a regular basis,i think the media is to blame for its one sided reporting.Most arrests are made from the government funded UAF,Unite Against Freedom I call them.These marches just attract extremists from all sides.The golliwog event in the council shows how stupid things have got,in Cumbria Labour got two coucillors arrested in Maryport for using a English phrase Pay Peanuts Get Monkies the court threw the case out.Even the Argus wont report if there are any arrests from the UAF side tomorrow.[/p][/quote]Monkeys, not "Monkies" Pride in the language! Andy R
  • Score: 0

6:04pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Ashles says...

"In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today."

Where did you read that? Do you have a link?
"In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today." Where did you read that? Do you have a link? Ashles
  • Score: 4

6:51pm Sat 26 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

Ashles wrote:
"In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today."

Where did you read that? Do you have a link?
Its a FACT that most arrests at these events are from the UAF,the UAF started off with good intensions but like the march for England the UAF has now got the extremist element.One of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events,the UAF even cause trouble at UKIP events.Just because of the title it does not mean this group is peacefull,and I would now call this group Unite Against Freedom.Look on youtube you will see past events that the vast majority of people with there faces covered and being violent are the UAF.The government should remove funding from this group.Tomorrow the police are making people take face covering off,i hope they come down heavy on any side that does not do this as they are the ones that are there for trouble.The argus will be one sided like all the media which is expected but look on youtube it opened my eyes.
[quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: "In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today." Where did you read that? Do you have a link?[/p][/quote]Its a FACT that most arrests at these events are from the UAF,the UAF started off with good intensions but like the march for England the UAF has now got the extremist element.One of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events,the UAF even cause trouble at UKIP events.Just because of the title it does not mean this group is peacefull,and I would now call this group Unite Against Freedom.Look on youtube you will see past events that the vast majority of people with there faces covered and being violent are the UAF.The government should remove funding from this group.Tomorrow the police are making people take face covering off,i hope they come down heavy on any side that does not do this as they are the ones that are there for trouble.The argus will be one sided like all the media which is expected but look on youtube it opened my eyes. clubrob6
  • Score: -2

7:36pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

clubrob6 wrote:
Ashles wrote:
"In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today."

Where did you read that? Do you have a link?
Its a FACT that most arrests at these events are from the UAF,the UAF started off with good intensions but like the march for England the UAF has now got the extremist element.One of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events,the UAF even cause trouble at UKIP events.Just because of the title it does not mean this group is peacefull,and I would now call this group Unite Against Freedom.Look on youtube you will see past events that the vast majority of people with there faces covered and being violent are the UAF.The government should remove funding from this group.Tomorrow the police are making people take face covering off,i hope they come down heavy on any side that does not do this as they are the ones that are there for trouble.The argus will be one sided like all the media which is expected but look on youtube it opened my eyes.
The reporting you moan about managed to make it sound as if there will be equal numbers on MfE and the counter protest- not as one sided as you make out.
Only part of the counter demo will be UAF- the far-right are obsessed with them but thinking everyone who opposes them belongs to it is easier for them than accepting that all kinds don't want the march to go ahead.
Why the seafront and not somewhere easier to police and contain while causing less hassle for residents and tourists?
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: "In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today." Where did you read that? Do you have a link?[/p][/quote]Its a FACT that most arrests at these events are from the UAF,the UAF started off with good intensions but like the march for England the UAF has now got the extremist element.One of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events,the UAF even cause trouble at UKIP events.Just because of the title it does not mean this group is peacefull,and I would now call this group Unite Against Freedom.Look on youtube you will see past events that the vast majority of people with there faces covered and being violent are the UAF.The government should remove funding from this group.Tomorrow the police are making people take face covering off,i hope they come down heavy on any side that does not do this as they are the ones that are there for trouble.The argus will be one sided like all the media which is expected but look on youtube it opened my eyes.[/p][/quote]The reporting you moan about managed to make it sound as if there will be equal numbers on MfE and the counter protest- not as one sided as you make out. Only part of the counter demo will be UAF- the far-right are obsessed with them but thinking everyone who opposes them belongs to it is easier for them than accepting that all kinds don't want the march to go ahead. Why the seafront and not somewhere easier to police and contain while causing less hassle for residents and tourists? Arrggh
  • Score: 4

7:50pm Sat 26 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

Arrggh wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
Ashles wrote:
"In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today."

Where did you read that? Do you have a link?
Its a FACT that most arrests at these events are from the UAF,the UAF started off with good intensions but like the march for England the UAF has now got the extremist element.One of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events,the UAF even cause trouble at UKIP events.Just because of the title it does not mean this group is peacefull,and I would now call this group Unite Against Freedom.Look on youtube you will see past events that the vast majority of people with there faces covered and being violent are the UAF.The government should remove funding from this group.Tomorrow the police are making people take face covering off,i hope they come down heavy on any side that does not do this as they are the ones that are there for trouble.The argus will be one sided like all the media which is expected but look on youtube it opened my eyes.
The reporting you moan about managed to make it sound as if there will be equal numbers on MfE and the counter protest- not as one sided as you make out.
Only part of the counter demo will be UAF- the far-right are obsessed with them but thinking everyone who opposes them belongs to it is easier for them than accepting that all kinds don't want the march to go ahead.
Why the seafront and not somewhere easier to police and contain while causing less hassle for residents and tourists?
You must also remember just because someone is mot actually on the march they oppose it,they might be just watching it.It probably is the wrong place for it to be held but although not reported there is support for the march.Its a pity both sides have been taken over by the extremist element especially the Unite Against Freedom party.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: "In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today." Where did you read that? Do you have a link?[/p][/quote]Its a FACT that most arrests at these events are from the UAF,the UAF started off with good intensions but like the march for England the UAF has now got the extremist element.One of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events,the UAF even cause trouble at UKIP events.Just because of the title it does not mean this group is peacefull,and I would now call this group Unite Against Freedom.Look on youtube you will see past events that the vast majority of people with there faces covered and being violent are the UAF.The government should remove funding from this group.Tomorrow the police are making people take face covering off,i hope they come down heavy on any side that does not do this as they are the ones that are there for trouble.The argus will be one sided like all the media which is expected but look on youtube it opened my eyes.[/p][/quote]The reporting you moan about managed to make it sound as if there will be equal numbers on MfE and the counter protest- not as one sided as you make out. Only part of the counter demo will be UAF- the far-right are obsessed with them but thinking everyone who opposes them belongs to it is easier for them than accepting that all kinds don't want the march to go ahead. Why the seafront and not somewhere easier to police and contain while causing less hassle for residents and tourists?[/p][/quote]You must also remember just because someone is mot actually on the march they oppose it,they might be just watching it.It probably is the wrong place for it to be held but although not reported there is support for the march.Its a pity both sides have been taken over by the extremist element especially the Unite Against Freedom party. clubrob6
  • Score: 0

8:32pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

clubrob6 wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
Ashles wrote:
"In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today."

Where did you read that? Do you have a link?
Its a FACT that most arrests at these events are from the UAF,the UAF started off with good intensions but like the march for England the UAF has now got the extremist element.One of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events,the UAF even cause trouble at UKIP events.Just because of the title it does not mean this group is peacefull,and I would now call this group Unite Against Freedom.Look on youtube you will see past events that the vast majority of people with there faces covered and being violent are the UAF.The government should remove funding from this group.Tomorrow the police are making people take face covering off,i hope they come down heavy on any side that does not do this as they are the ones that are there for trouble.The argus will be one sided like all the media which is expected but look on youtube it opened my eyes.
The reporting you moan about managed to make it sound as if there will be equal numbers on MfE and the counter protest- not as one sided as you make out.
Only part of the counter demo will be UAF- the far-right are obsessed with them but thinking everyone who opposes them belongs to it is easier for them than accepting that all kinds don't want the march to go ahead.
Why the seafront and not somewhere easier to police and contain while causing less hassle for residents and tourists?
You must also remember just because someone is mot actually on the march they oppose it,they might be just watching it.It probably is the wrong place for it to be held but although not reported there is support for the march.Its a pity both sides have been taken over by the extremist element especially the Unite Against Freedom party.
You give UAF too much credit- they are not as numerous or militant as they are made out to be. Most of the time they've been around they have been mocked by others for insisting on collaborating with the police- who are none too keen on anti-fascists.
How many of the hundred that attend MfE are extremist do you think?
Given where it is situated how will the police will determine if people are tourists or opposing the march?
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: "In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today." Where did you read that? Do you have a link?[/p][/quote]Its a FACT that most arrests at these events are from the UAF,the UAF started off with good intensions but like the march for England the UAF has now got the extremist element.One of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events,the UAF even cause trouble at UKIP events.Just because of the title it does not mean this group is peacefull,and I would now call this group Unite Against Freedom.Look on youtube you will see past events that the vast majority of people with there faces covered and being violent are the UAF.The government should remove funding from this group.Tomorrow the police are making people take face covering off,i hope they come down heavy on any side that does not do this as they are the ones that are there for trouble.The argus will be one sided like all the media which is expected but look on youtube it opened my eyes.[/p][/quote]The reporting you moan about managed to make it sound as if there will be equal numbers on MfE and the counter protest- not as one sided as you make out. Only part of the counter demo will be UAF- the far-right are obsessed with them but thinking everyone who opposes them belongs to it is easier for them than accepting that all kinds don't want the march to go ahead. Why the seafront and not somewhere easier to police and contain while causing less hassle for residents and tourists?[/p][/quote]You must also remember just because someone is mot actually on the march they oppose it,they might be just watching it.It probably is the wrong place for it to be held but although not reported there is support for the march.Its a pity both sides have been taken over by the extremist element especially the Unite Against Freedom party.[/p][/quote]You give UAF too much credit- they are not as numerous or militant as they are made out to be. Most of the time they've been around they have been mocked by others for insisting on collaborating with the police- who are none too keen on anti-fascists. How many of the hundred that attend MfE are extremist do you think? Given where it is situated how will the police will determine if people are tourists or opposing the march? Arrggh
  • Score: -3

9:31pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Martha Gunn says...

Looks like the Good Lord has decided to pi$$ on their parade.

Huzzah!
Looks like the Good Lord has decided to pi$$ on their parade. Huzzah! Martha Gunn
  • Score: 6

9:34pm Sat 26 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

Arrggh wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
clubrob6 wrote:
Ashles wrote:
"In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today."

Where did you read that? Do you have a link?
Its a FACT that most arrests at these events are from the UAF,the UAF started off with good intensions but like the march for England the UAF has now got the extremist element.One of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events,the UAF even cause trouble at UKIP events.Just because of the title it does not mean this group is peacefull,and I would now call this group Unite Against Freedom.Look on youtube you will see past events that the vast majority of people with there faces covered and being violent are the UAF.The government should remove funding from this group.Tomorrow the police are making people take face covering off,i hope they come down heavy on any side that does not do this as they are the ones that are there for trouble.The argus will be one sided like all the media which is expected but look on youtube it opened my eyes.
The reporting you moan about managed to make it sound as if there will be equal numbers on MfE and the counter protest- not as one sided as you make out.
Only part of the counter demo will be UAF- the far-right are obsessed with them but thinking everyone who opposes them belongs to it is easier for them than accepting that all kinds don't want the march to go ahead.
Why the seafront and not somewhere easier to police and contain while causing less hassle for residents and tourists?
You must also remember just because someone is mot actually on the march they oppose it,they might be just watching it.It probably is the wrong place for it to be held but although not reported there is support for the march.Its a pity both sides have been taken over by the extremist element especially the Unite Against Freedom party.
You give UAF too much credit- they are not as numerous or militant as they are made out to be. Most of the time they've been around they have been mocked by others for insisting on collaborating with the police- who are none too keen on anti-fascists.
How many of the hundred that attend MfE are extremist do you think?
Given where it is situated how will the police will determine if people are tourists or opposing the march?
Watch youtube you will see what Unite Against Freedom are really like.The point I have been trying to make is both sides are as bad as each other.UAF are a very violent group I went to the UKIP event at hove town hall just to see what UKIP were about,UAF were shouting abuse at anyone in the area.Watching youtube and the media not reporting on the facts about UAF arrests I now know they are not to be trusted.The public just believe what the media tells them.But I agree the event should be away from tourists.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: "In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today." Where did you read that? Do you have a link?[/p][/quote]Its a FACT that most arrests at these events are from the UAF,the UAF started off with good intensions but like the march for England the UAF has now got the extremist element.One of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events,the UAF even cause trouble at UKIP events.Just because of the title it does not mean this group is peacefull,and I would now call this group Unite Against Freedom.Look on youtube you will see past events that the vast majority of people with there faces covered and being violent are the UAF.The government should remove funding from this group.Tomorrow the police are making people take face covering off,i hope they come down heavy on any side that does not do this as they are the ones that are there for trouble.The argus will be one sided like all the media which is expected but look on youtube it opened my eyes.[/p][/quote]The reporting you moan about managed to make it sound as if there will be equal numbers on MfE and the counter protest- not as one sided as you make out. Only part of the counter demo will be UAF- the far-right are obsessed with them but thinking everyone who opposes them belongs to it is easier for them than accepting that all kinds don't want the march to go ahead. Why the seafront and not somewhere easier to police and contain while causing less hassle for residents and tourists?[/p][/quote]You must also remember just because someone is mot actually on the march they oppose it,they might be just watching it.It probably is the wrong place for it to be held but although not reported there is support for the march.Its a pity both sides have been taken over by the extremist element especially the Unite Against Freedom party.[/p][/quote]You give UAF too much credit- they are not as numerous or militant as they are made out to be. Most of the time they've been around they have been mocked by others for insisting on collaborating with the police- who are none too keen on anti-fascists. How many of the hundred that attend MfE are extremist do you think? Given where it is situated how will the police will determine if people are tourists or opposing the march?[/p][/quote]Watch youtube you will see what Unite Against Freedom are really like.The point I have been trying to make is both sides are as bad as each other.UAF are a very violent group I went to the UKIP event at hove town hall just to see what UKIP were about,UAF were shouting abuse at anyone in the area.Watching youtube and the media not reporting on the facts about UAF arrests I now know they are not to be trusted.The public just believe what the media tells them.But I agree the event should be away from tourists. clubrob6
  • Score: 3

9:37pm Sat 26 Apr 14

braigieben says...

Lets hope it all goes well. Everyone has a right to protest just like the anti frackers and I will support them and hope you don't get the usual faceless masked middle class students who don't seem to yet know much about the world and life but just enjoy the day out with their friends. Lets bring back Britain !
Lets hope it all goes well. Everyone has a right to protest just like the anti frackers and I will support them and hope you don't get the usual faceless masked middle class students who don't seem to yet know much about the world and life but just enjoy the day out with their friends. Lets bring back Britain ! braigieben
  • Score: 2

10:07pm Sat 26 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

braigieben wrote:
Lets hope it all goes well. Everyone has a right to protest just like the anti frackers and I will support them and hope you don't get the usual faceless masked middle class students who don't seem to yet know much about the world and life but just enjoy the day out with their friends. Lets bring back Britain !
I respect the police for letting the march go ahead as you say everyone has a right to protest,that fact the UAF are trying to deny people.Hopefully with people not allowed to cover there faces trouble from both sides should be avoided,as I think if you are not prepared to show your face you have no right to publically protest or counter protest.I just hope members of the public don't become victims from the extremist element that unfortunately exists on both sides.
[quote][p][bold]braigieben[/bold] wrote: Lets hope it all goes well. Everyone has a right to protest just like the anti frackers and I will support them and hope you don't get the usual faceless masked middle class students who don't seem to yet know much about the world and life but just enjoy the day out with their friends. Lets bring back Britain ![/p][/quote]I respect the police for letting the march go ahead as you say everyone has a right to protest,that fact the UAF are trying to deny people.Hopefully with people not allowed to cover there faces trouble from both sides should be avoided,as I think if you are not prepared to show your face you have no right to publically protest or counter protest.I just hope members of the public don't become victims from the extremist element that unfortunately exists on both sides. clubrob6
  • Score: 4

10:32pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Ricayboy says...

Sake Dean Mohammed wrote:
I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.
Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.
[quote][p][bold]Sake Dean Mohammed[/bold] wrote: I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.[/p][/quote]Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me. Ricayboy
  • Score: 3

10:56pm Sat 26 Apr 14

john5001 says...

the English are out numbered in brighton and hove , being brain washed as kids .YOUR NOT ALOUD TO Complain . just look what happens when they vote they kill each other
the English are out numbered in brighton and hove , being brain washed as kids .YOUR NOT ALOUD TO Complain . just look what happens when they vote they kill each other john5001
  • Score: 4

10:58pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

Ricayboy wrote:
Sake Dean Mohammed wrote:
I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.
Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.
Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck.
They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them.
Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.
[quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sake Dean Mohammed[/bold] wrote: I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.[/p][/quote]Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.[/p][/quote]Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them. Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on. Arrggh
  • Score: -2

11:11pm Sat 26 Apr 14

the red head says...

john5001 wrote:
the English are out numbered in brighton and hove , being brain washed as kids .YOUR NOT ALOUD TO Complain . just look what happens when they vote they kill each other
I love the ENGLISH language done you?

Let's have a go...

'The English are outnumbered in Brighton and Hove, being brainwashed as kids. You're not allowed to complain. Just look what happens when they vote: they kill each other.'

There you go. I've just taught you how to correctly write English. Maybe you should have paid more attention getting a real education and then your arguments may get more respect. Especially, as they would then probably be much more informed.
[quote][p][bold]john5001[/bold] wrote: the English are out numbered in brighton and hove , being brain washed as kids .YOUR NOT ALOUD TO Complain . just look what happens when they vote they kill each other[/p][/quote]I love the ENGLISH language done you? Let's have a go... 'The English are outnumbered in Brighton and Hove, being brainwashed as kids. You're not allowed to complain. Just look what happens when they vote: they kill each other.' There you go. I've just taught you how to correctly write English. Maybe you should have paid more attention getting a real education and then your arguments may get more respect. Especially, as they would then probably be much more informed. the red head
  • Score: 0

11:18pm Sat 26 Apr 14

the red head says...

Arrggh wrote:
Ricayboy wrote:
Sake Dean Mohammed wrote:
I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.
Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.
Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck.
They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them.
Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.
They're mostly uneducated loons who believe that they are being patriotic. If they were to actually realise the history of our country, they would realise this country has been for for centuries, since the beginning if it's habitation, multiracial. Every Englishman has a hotchpotch of blood from, on average, at least two other continents. Saint George wasn't English, this royal family originated from Germany. Sorry EDF, but this horse bolted a long, long time ago and you are the only people who seem not to embrace and celebrate the true, rich, unique history of England,
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sake Dean Mohammed[/bold] wrote: I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.[/p][/quote]Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.[/p][/quote]Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them. Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.[/p][/quote]They're mostly uneducated loons who believe that they are being patriotic. If they were to actually realise the history of our country, they would realise this country has been for for centuries, since the beginning if it's habitation, multiracial. Every Englishman has a hotchpotch of blood from, on average, at least two other continents. Saint George wasn't English, this royal family originated from Germany. Sorry EDF, but this horse bolted a long, long time ago and you are the only people who seem not to embrace and celebrate the true, rich, unique history of England, the red head
  • Score: -4

12:39am Sun 27 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

Ricayboy wrote:
Sake Dean Mohammed wrote:
I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.
Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.
That is NOT allowed in the South of England its classed as racist ,I was up in Cumbria on the 23rd its still allowed up north and people are actually still allowed to celebrate the day without groups like UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM taking offence.
[quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sake Dean Mohammed[/bold] wrote: I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.[/p][/quote]Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.[/p][/quote]That is NOT allowed in the South of England its classed as racist ,I was up in Cumbria on the 23rd its still allowed up north and people are actually still allowed to celebrate the day without groups like UNITE AGAINST FREEDOM taking offence. clubrob6
  • Score: 0

12:49am Sun 27 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

Arrggh wrote:
Ricayboy wrote:
Sake Dean Mohammed wrote:
I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.
Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.
Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck.
They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them.
Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.
What about the Unite Against Freedom UAF they shout abuse I class them as anti british,i was at Hove town hall when they were giving abuse to any one in the area at a UKIP event.Dont forget one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events too its on youtube for all to see.So both sides now have that extreme element.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sake Dean Mohammed[/bold] wrote: I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.[/p][/quote]Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.[/p][/quote]Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them. Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.[/p][/quote]What about the Unite Against Freedom UAF they shout abuse I class them as anti british,i was at Hove town hall when they were giving abuse to any one in the area at a UKIP event.Dont forget one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events too its on youtube for all to see.So both sides now have that extreme element. clubrob6
  • Score: 2

1:00am Sun 27 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

the red head wrote:
john5001 wrote:
the English are out numbered in brighton and hove , being brain washed as kids .YOUR NOT ALOUD TO Complain . just look what happens when they vote they kill each other
I love the ENGLISH language done you?

Let's have a go...

'The English are outnumbered in Brighton and Hove, being brainwashed as kids. You're not allowed to complain. Just look what happens when they vote: they kill each other.'

There you go. I've just taught you how to correctly write English. Maybe you should have paid more attention getting a real education and then your arguments may get more respect. Especially, as they would then probably be much more informed.
Might not be good at English but he seems quite well informed,brainwashed kids that are sent to fight father protects himself by saying did not give his blessing even though he sent a 16 yr old child to fight.So I think although his English is not good he does realise whats going on in the area.
[quote][p][bold]the red head[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]john5001[/bold] wrote: the English are out numbered in brighton and hove , being brain washed as kids .YOUR NOT ALOUD TO Complain . just look what happens when they vote they kill each other[/p][/quote]I love the ENGLISH language done you? Let's have a go... 'The English are outnumbered in Brighton and Hove, being brainwashed as kids. You're not allowed to complain. Just look what happens when they vote: they kill each other.' There you go. I've just taught you how to correctly write English. Maybe you should have paid more attention getting a real education and then your arguments may get more respect. Especially, as they would then probably be much more informed.[/p][/quote]Might not be good at English but he seems quite well informed,brainwashed kids that are sent to fight father protects himself by saying did not give his blessing even though he sent a 16 yr old child to fight.So I think although his English is not good he does realise whats going on in the area. clubrob6
  • Score: -1

1:10am Sun 27 Apr 14

clubrob6 says...

the red head wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Ricayboy wrote:
Sake Dean Mohammed wrote:
I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.
Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.
Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck.
They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them.
Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.
They're mostly uneducated loons who believe that they are being patriotic. If they were to actually realise the history of our country, they would realise this country has been for for centuries, since the beginning if it's habitation, multiracial. Every Englishman has a hotchpotch of blood from, on average, at least two other continents. Saint George wasn't English, this royal family originated from Germany. Sorry EDF, but this horse bolted a long, long time ago and you are the only people who seem not to embrace and celebrate the true, rich, unique history of England,
So how come in the south of England we cant celebrate St Georges day without upsetting people.Yes EDL and BNP have had there day as too extreme but the political landscape is about to change.
[quote][p][bold]the red head[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sake Dean Mohammed[/bold] wrote: I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.[/p][/quote]Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.[/p][/quote]Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them. Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.[/p][/quote]They're mostly uneducated loons who believe that they are being patriotic. If they were to actually realise the history of our country, they would realise this country has been for for centuries, since the beginning if it's habitation, multiracial. Every Englishman has a hotchpotch of blood from, on average, at least two other continents. Saint George wasn't English, this royal family originated from Germany. Sorry EDF, but this horse bolted a long, long time ago and you are the only people who seem not to embrace and celebrate the true, rich, unique history of England,[/p][/quote]So how come in the south of England we cant celebrate St Georges day without upsetting people.Yes EDL and BNP have had there day as too extreme but the political landscape is about to change. clubrob6
  • Score: 0

1:53am Sun 27 Apr 14

PorkyChopper says...

Arrggh wrote:
Ricayboy wrote:
Sake Dean Mohammed wrote:
I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.
Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.
Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck.
They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them.
Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.
"My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent."

I bet the recipient got the hump about that.
[quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sake Dean Mohammed[/bold] wrote: I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.[/p][/quote]Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.[/p][/quote]Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them. Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.[/p][/quote]"My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent." I bet the recipient got the hump about that. PorkyChopper
  • Score: 1

2:12am Sun 27 Apr 14

PorkyChopper says...

the red head wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Ricayboy wrote:
Sake Dean Mohammed wrote:
I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.
Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.
Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck.
They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them.
Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.
They're mostly uneducated loons who believe that they are being patriotic. If they were to actually realise the history of our country, they would realise this country has been for for centuries, since the beginning if it's habitation, multiracial. Every Englishman has a hotchpotch of blood from, on average, at least two other continents. Saint George wasn't English, this royal family originated from Germany. Sorry EDF, but this horse bolted a long, long time ago and you are the only people who seem not to embrace and celebrate the true, rich, unique history of England,
People keep spinning this myth "England/Britain has always been multiracial", as if Saxons, Normans, Celts, Vikings, Romans and other Northern Europeans that make up the vast majority of English/British people are totally alien races and cultures unrelated to each other. To hear some, you'd think the indigenous population were just here on some kind of extended holiday, or are squatters on someone else's land who have overstayed their welcome. What happened to us to make us despise ourselves so much?
[quote][p][bold]the red head[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sake Dean Mohammed[/bold] wrote: I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.[/p][/quote]Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.[/p][/quote]Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them. Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.[/p][/quote]They're mostly uneducated loons who believe that they are being patriotic. If they were to actually realise the history of our country, they would realise this country has been for for centuries, since the beginning if it's habitation, multiracial. Every Englishman has a hotchpotch of blood from, on average, at least two other continents. Saint George wasn't English, this royal family originated from Germany. Sorry EDF, but this horse bolted a long, long time ago and you are the only people who seem not to embrace and celebrate the true, rich, unique history of England,[/p][/quote]People keep spinning this myth "England/Britain has always been multiracial", as if Saxons, Normans, Celts, Vikings, Romans and other Northern Europeans that make up the vast majority of English/British people are totally alien races and cultures unrelated to each other. To hear some, you'd think the indigenous population were just here on some kind of extended holiday, or are squatters on someone else's land who have overstayed their welcome. What happened to us to make us despise ourselves so much? PorkyChopper
  • Score: 4

7:48am Sun 27 Apr 14

Ashles says...

clubrob6 wrote:
Ashles wrote:
"In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today."

Where did you read that? Do you have a link?
Its a FACT that most arrests at these events are from the UAF,the UAF started off with good intensions but like the march for England the UAF has now got the extremist element.One of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events,the UAF even cause trouble at UKIP events.Just because of the title it does not mean this group is peacefull,and I would now call this group Unite Against Freedom.Look on youtube you will see past events that the vast majority of people with there faces covered and being violent are the UAF.The government should remove funding from this group.Tomorrow the police are making people take face covering off,i hope they come down heavy on any side that does not do this as they are the ones that are there for trouble.The argus will be one sided like all the media which is expected but look on youtube it opened my eyes.
No link to back this up then? Only some vague reference to Youtube?

Excuse me if I don't abandon mainstream media as an information source just yet. Unreliable as it might be, it still remains somewhat preferable to random guys on Argus forums and... Youtube.

I'm guessing there aren't going to be many scientists in the March today.
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ashles[/bold] wrote: "In fact at a EDL march I read that two EDL supporters was arrested but over 100 UAF members were arrested,the media especially the BBC only meantioned the EDL arrests.Very much like this one sided article in the Argus today." Where did you read that? Do you have a link?[/p][/quote]Its a FACT that most arrests at these events are from the UAF,the UAF started off with good intensions but like the march for England the UAF has now got the extremist element.One of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events,the UAF even cause trouble at UKIP events.Just because of the title it does not mean this group is peacefull,and I would now call this group Unite Against Freedom.Look on youtube you will see past events that the vast majority of people with there faces covered and being violent are the UAF.The government should remove funding from this group.Tomorrow the police are making people take face covering off,i hope they come down heavy on any side that does not do this as they are the ones that are there for trouble.The argus will be one sided like all the media which is expected but look on youtube it opened my eyes.[/p][/quote]No link to back this up then? Only some vague reference to Youtube? Excuse me if I don't abandon mainstream media as an information source just yet. Unreliable as it might be, it still remains somewhat preferable to random guys on Argus forums and... Youtube. I'm guessing there aren't going to be many scientists in the March today. Ashles
  • Score: -2

11:27am Sun 27 Apr 14

Arrggh says...

clubrob6 wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Ricayboy wrote:
Sake Dean Mohammed wrote:
I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.
Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.
Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck.
They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them.
Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.
What about the Unite Against Freedom UAF they shout abuse I class them as anti british,i was at Hove town hall when they were giving abuse to any one in the area at a UKIP event.Dont forget one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events too its on youtube for all to see.So both sides now have that extreme element.
Both sides have an extreme element but as one side is only one hundred people that should make it easier to weed them out- unless that element is all of them.
[quote][p][bold]clubrob6[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sake Dean Mohammed[/bold] wrote: I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.[/p][/quote]Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.[/p][/quote]Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them. Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.[/p][/quote]What about the Unite Against Freedom UAF they shout abuse I class them as anti british,i was at Hove town hall when they were giving abuse to any one in the area at a UKIP event.Dont forget one of LEE RIGBYs murderers was a speaker at UAF events too its on youtube for all to see.So both sides now have that extreme element.[/p][/quote]Both sides have an extreme element but as one side is only one hundred people that should make it easier to weed them out- unless that element is all of them. Arrggh
  • Score: 0

9:29pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Terry K says...

The Sussex police overtime bill will still be a lot less than annual crimesfest that is the Notting hill carnival, a carnival that celebrates Caribbean culture and nothing British, why can't the English celebrate their own culture?
The Sussex police overtime bill will still be a lot less than annual crimesfest that is the Notting hill carnival, a carnival that celebrates Caribbean culture and nothing British, why can't the English celebrate their own culture? Terry K
  • Score: 2

7:20pm Mon 28 Apr 14

braigieben says...

Terry K wrote:
The Sussex police overtime bill will still be a lot less than annual crimesfest that is the Notting hill carnival, a carnival that celebrates Caribbean culture and nothing British, why can't the English celebrate their own culture?
We don't have any ! Nothing wrong with noting hill you should try it sometime just know when it's time to leave
[quote][p][bold]Terry K[/bold] wrote: The Sussex police overtime bill will still be a lot less than annual crimesfest that is the Notting hill carnival, a carnival that celebrates Caribbean culture and nothing British, why can't the English celebrate their own culture?[/p][/quote]We don't have any ! Nothing wrong with noting hill you should try it sometime just know when it's time to leave braigieben
  • Score: 0

11:22am Wed 30 Apr 14

Sake Dean Mohammed says...

PorkyChopper wrote:
the red head wrote:
Arrggh wrote:
Ricayboy wrote:
Sake Dean Mohammed wrote:
I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.
Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.
Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck.
They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them.
Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.
They're mostly uneducated loons who believe that they are being patriotic. If they were to actually realise the history of our country, they would realise this country has been for for centuries, since the beginning if it's habitation, multiracial. Every Englishman has a hotchpotch of blood from, on average, at least two other continents. Saint George wasn't English, this royal family originated from Germany. Sorry EDF, but this horse bolted a long, long time ago and you are the only people who seem not to embrace and celebrate the true, rich, unique history of England,
People keep spinning this myth "England/Britai
n has always been multiracial", as if Saxons, Normans, Celts, Vikings, Romans and other Northern Europeans that make up the vast majority of English/British people are totally alien races and cultures unrelated to each other. To hear some, you'd think the indigenous population were just here on some kind of extended holiday, or are squatters on someone else's land who have overstayed their welcome. What happened to us to make us despise ourselves so much?
When did Rome slide up to Northern Europe? I though it was in Italy (that's in the south).
[quote][p][bold]PorkyChopper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the red head[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arrggh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ricayboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sake Dean Mohammed[/bold] wrote: I didn't say that the UAF are all peaceful. But I will stand against the MfE. The majority of people protesting are residents. If people hadn't stood up against fascism, Hitler would have won. When people don't stand up when the far-right rears its ugly head in small numbers, they will just come back in larger numbers. Brighton has always stood up to fascists. Battle of the Level in 1948? The British Union of Fascists gave up with Brighton after that. Have you actually seen some of the far right flyers doing the rounds this year? Open threats of blood being spilt, and violence against anyone that opposes them. Hardly a celebration.[/p][/quote]Are the MFE marchers really far-right? They just look like a bunch of blokes flying the national flag to me.[/p][/quote]Ricayboy- ' Are they really far-right?' The organisers were all involved in groups like the EDL and I've heard them in previous years racially abusing passersby. My favourite had to be 'Your mother was a camel' to a guy from Kent. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. They use far-right terminology- convinced that only they are true patriots and the rest of us are either commies, because they haven't noticed the cold war is over, or sheeple for believing anything other than them. Many were and are involved in the different groups that emerged when the EDL imploded. Paul Podromou, or Pitt his more English version, leads the South East Alliance, Marsh was an RO for EDL and the list goes on.[/p][/quote]They're mostly uneducated loons who believe that they are being patriotic. If they were to actually realise the history of our country, they would realise this country has been for for centuries, since the beginning if it's habitation, multiracial. Every Englishman has a hotchpotch of blood from, on average, at least two other continents. Saint George wasn't English, this royal family originated from Germany. Sorry EDF, but this horse bolted a long, long time ago and you are the only people who seem not to embrace and celebrate the true, rich, unique history of England,[/p][/quote]People keep spinning this myth "England/Britai n has always been multiracial", as if Saxons, Normans, Celts, Vikings, Romans and other Northern Europeans that make up the vast majority of English/British people are totally alien races and cultures unrelated to each other. To hear some, you'd think the indigenous population were just here on some kind of extended holiday, or are squatters on someone else's land who have overstayed their welcome. What happened to us to make us despise ourselves so much?[/p][/quote]When did Rome slide up to Northern Europe? I though it was in Italy (that's in the south). Sake Dean Mohammed
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