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Man sets himself on fire near seafront

The Argus: Man on fire in city street Man on fire in city street

A MAN doused himself in liquid and set himself alight in the street in front of screaming onlookers.

Eyewitnesses said the man, believed to be in his thirties, took his top off and knelt down on the pavement before pouring what smelt like petrol over his body.

He then sparked a lighter which ignited his entire body in flames.

Witnesses described how he immediately fell to the ground and rolled around fully ablaze for about a minute.

The flames were put out when quick-thinking staff at the Pretty Please Health and Beauty parlour rushed out their shop with a fire extinguisher.

The drama unfolded yesterday at 3.40pm at the seafront end of Hove Street as people dined outside a restaurant in the sunshine.

An unnamed employee at Sunshine Books, Art and Coffee, said she was in “complete shock”.

She said: “You just don't expect that kind of thing.

“I heard the commotion and came out and put a fire blanket over him. He was seriously burnt.”

Darrolle Brown, 24, was sitting on a bench when she first saw the man walking up the street.

She said: “I was sitting having a coffee and noticed him shouting and swearing.

“He seemed annoyed at something but I couldn't see who or what he was shouting at.”

She said when he set himself alight he “didn't make any noises, he just rolled on the ground”.

She added: “I was completely shocked. People were screaming and all sorts. I couldn't believe it.”

Cameron Hamblett, 16, said: “I saw him shouting abuse up the road and I thought he was drunk.”

Staff at a nearby Turkish restaurant said customers sitting outside came running inside screaming about a man on fire.

An employee, who did not want to be named, said: “We had people eating outside who came running in and screaming.

“I didn't know what was going on but by the time I got outside the flames were out. Everyone was very upset.”

About half an hour after the incident yesterday a local trader was seen sweeping ash from the pavement outside the beauty parlour.

The man was taken by paramedics to the Royal Sussex County Hospital in Brighton.

A police spokesman said: “We were called at 3.40pm to a report that a man was walking up Hove Street, Hove, and had taken his top off.

“The man poured some sort of liquid on himself and then set himself on fire.

“A member of the public doused the flames and the injured man was taken to Royal Sussex County Hospital for treatment.

“We are treating this as a domestic incident. No one else was involved and an investigation is ongoing.

“Anyone who saw what happened or who has any information about the incident should call 101 quoting serial 929 of 6/5.”

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5:25pm Tue 6 May 14

spa301 says...

Not sure a comments section is suitable for a case such as this Argus?
Not sure a comments section is suitable for a case such as this Argus? spa301
  • Score: 96

6:17pm Tue 6 May 14

NathanAdler says...

Poor soul. Must have been in a dark, dark place to do such a thing.
Poor soul. Must have been in a dark, dark place to do such a thing. NathanAdler
  • Score: 70

6:27pm Tue 6 May 14

jackthekipper says...

****
**** jackthekipper
  • Score: 0

7:35pm Tue 6 May 14

PracticeNotTheories says...

Sad state of affairs. Yes, comments would be better over on the Traveller's story, but they disable them there...
Hope he gets some help, now, and in the future.
Sad state of affairs. Yes, comments would be better over on the Traveller's story, but they disable them there... Hope he gets some help, now, and in the future. PracticeNotTheories
  • Score: 44

8:00pm Tue 6 May 14

hoveguyactually says...

A very sad story. Let us hope he recovers physically and mentally.

Meanwhile, there is no Comments section for the item on the Travellers moving into Surrenden Road. Why is the Argus so reticent about allowing comments whenever travellers are in the news? Nervous about the Greens perhaps?
A very sad story. Let us hope he recovers physically and mentally. Meanwhile, there is no Comments section for the item on the Travellers moving into Surrenden Road. Why is the Argus so reticent about allowing comments whenever travellers are in the news? Nervous about the Greens perhaps? hoveguyactually
  • Score: 47

8:03pm Tue 6 May 14

BlackRocker says...

Poor soul.How desperate would you need to be to take that course of action? I hope he makes full recovery, or has achieved what he set out to do.
Poor soul.How desperate would you need to be to take that course of action? I hope he makes full recovery, or has achieved what he set out to do. BlackRocker
  • Score: 30

10:07pm Tue 6 May 14

brighton bluenose says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
A very sad story. Let us hope he recovers physically and mentally.

Meanwhile, there is no Comments section for the item on the Travellers moving into Surrenden Road. Why is the Argus so reticent about allowing comments whenever travellers are in the news? Nervous about the Greens perhaps?
A man who is clearly disturbed makes a cry for help - and you talk twaddle about the Greens!!
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: A very sad story. Let us hope he recovers physically and mentally. Meanwhile, there is no Comments section for the item on the Travellers moving into Surrenden Road. Why is the Argus so reticent about allowing comments whenever travellers are in the news? Nervous about the Greens perhaps?[/p][/quote]A man who is clearly disturbed makes a cry for help - and you talk twaddle about the Greens!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 5

11:57pm Tue 6 May 14

power_ranger says...

disco inferno
disco inferno power_ranger
  • Score: -37

9:36am Wed 7 May 14

Andy R says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
A very sad story. Let us hope he recovers physically and mentally.

Meanwhile, there is no Comments section for the item on the Travellers moving into Surrenden Road. Why is the Argus so reticent about allowing comments whenever travellers are in the news? Nervous about the Greens perhaps?
You've managed to demonstrate so perfectly why it would be better not to have comments on this article. Well done.

I hope this guy recovers.
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: A very sad story. Let us hope he recovers physically and mentally. Meanwhile, there is no Comments section for the item on the Travellers moving into Surrenden Road. Why is the Argus so reticent about allowing comments whenever travellers are in the news? Nervous about the Greens perhaps?[/p][/quote]You've managed to demonstrate so perfectly why it would be better not to have comments on this article. Well done. I hope this guy recovers. Andy R
  • Score: 24

10:01am Wed 7 May 14

worthingite says...

So the poor bloke has major mental health issues, so the argus thinks its a front page story, oily rag, no wonder its down to 15k readers and falling......
So the poor bloke has major mental health issues, so the argus thinks its a front page story, oily rag, no wonder its down to 15k readers and falling...... worthingite
  • Score: 16

10:21am Wed 7 May 14

bagmad says...

Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future. bagmad
  • Score: -16

11:05am Wed 7 May 14

Rebecca2014 says...

I was there when it happened. I saw the man on fire. Would just like to mention the brave man who saved his life by using a fire extinguisher to put the man out. Whoever he is, he is a hero and I hope he is not too traumatised by the incident.
I was there when it happened. I saw the man on fire. Would just like to mention the brave man who saved his life by using a fire extinguisher to put the man out. Whoever he is, he is a hero and I hope he is not too traumatised by the incident. Rebecca2014
  • Score: 47

12:15pm Wed 7 May 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

This government has cut funding to the mental health services and this is probably the result. He won't get the help he needs because it is no longer there.

The conservatives and lib dems are a national disgrace.

I hope this man finds peace.
This government has cut funding to the mental health services and this is probably the result. He won't get the help he needs because it is no longer there. The conservatives and lib dems are a national disgrace. I hope this man finds peace. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: 28

12:40pm Wed 7 May 14

graham_Seagull says...

bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
you best keep you opinions to yourself.
[quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]you best keep you opinions to yourself. graham_Seagull
  • Score: 19

12:46pm Wed 7 May 14

Monkeymoo1 says...

What no photos
What no photos Monkeymoo1
  • Score: -22

1:18pm Wed 7 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
[quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -17

1:18pm Wed 7 May 14

Mr chock says...

spa301 wrote:
Not sure a comments section is suitable for a case such as this Argus?
why not ? this is just a guy "about 30" with some issues .. all he needed to do was full his pockets with stones and jump off place pier .. setting fire to himself he forgot one important thing he took of his shirt and did not ingest any clearly not a very good suicide attempt , "better luck next time if he wanted to kill himself ... " Spa301 your the first to comment i know i will not be the last ...
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: Not sure a comments section is suitable for a case such as this Argus?[/p][/quote]why not ? this is just a guy "about 30" with some issues .. all he needed to do was full his pockets with stones and jump off place pier .. setting fire to himself he forgot one important thing he took of his shirt and did not ingest any clearly not a very good suicide attempt , "better luck next time if he wanted to kill himself ... " Spa301 your the first to comment i know i will not be the last ... Mr chock
  • Score: -30

1:40pm Wed 7 May 14

Patsyr says...

Not about this story but why no option to comment on the travellers situation.

Argus pro traveller and worried what might be said about the situation?
Not about this story but why no option to comment on the travellers situation. Argus pro traveller and worried what might be said about the situation? Patsyr
  • Score: -11

2:03pm Wed 7 May 14

wippasnapper says...

Ha a human flame – sorry had to be said – it would have been nice to know why he was doing it foe, but duo to this Tory government putting numerous people under stress it dose not surprise me someone has dun something so drastic but there again it could have just been someone with a mental illness and now he will have the rest of his life to reflect on what he did.
Ha a human flame – sorry had to be said – it would have been nice to know why he was doing it foe, but duo to this Tory government putting numerous people under stress it dose not surprise me someone has dun something so drastic but there again it could have just been someone with a mental illness and now he will have the rest of his life to reflect on what he did. wippasnapper
  • Score: -9

2:08pm Wed 7 May 14

Andy R says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt? Andy R
  • Score: 9

2:20pm Wed 7 May 14

Mr chock says...

Patsyr wrote:
Not about this story but why no option to comment on the travellers situation.

Argus pro traveller and worried what might be said about the situation?
yes i noticed that.. i have to call ben ..
[quote][p][bold]Patsyr[/bold] wrote: Not about this story but why no option to comment on the travellers situation. Argus pro traveller and worried what might be said about the situation?[/p][/quote]yes i noticed that.. i have to call ben .. Mr chock
  • Score: 1

2:28pm Wed 7 May 14

sugar man says...

bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.
[quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever. sugar man
  • Score: 18

2:43pm Wed 7 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -11

2:46pm Wed 7 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

sugar man wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.
Does he need to have them in order to have an opinion?

How were 'mental health issues' involved?
[quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.[/p][/quote]Does he need to have them in order to have an opinion? How were 'mental health issues' involved? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -16

5:51pm Wed 7 May 14

N3TW0RK23 says...

When my best mates brother set himself on fire it wasnt a selfless act, he had lost everything, his job and his home , he was sanctioned which means he had benefits cut, no crisis loan anymore, no legal aid, better make sure you have lots if savings and never get ill, lost his job could not pay rent, defaulted on direct debits, No assigned doctor when your homeless, no mental health support for homeless not even access to hot water on a cold night for hot water bottle as I asked council and police in Brighton, I have a chronic disease that causes horrible pain 247 and often think of how will i die if it all gets too much, dignitas costs money, and expensive just getting there, Anxiety attacks PTSD and deep depression i wouldnt wish on anyone and it does impare your rational thinking, its not selfish act, desperate men do desperate thngs, and i know this , with 34 suicides a week under IDS CAMERON ESTHERMCVEY with sanctions and ATOS suicides, it hasnt gone away despite demonstrations nationwide via the @wowpetition and I can say this is without doubt the most callus uncaring government i have ever come across.
When my best mates brother set himself on fire it wasnt a selfless act, he had lost everything, his job and his home , he was sanctioned which means he had benefits cut, no crisis loan anymore, no legal aid, better make sure you have lots if savings and never get ill, lost his job could not pay rent, defaulted on direct debits, No assigned doctor when your homeless, no mental health support for homeless not even access to hot water on a cold night for hot water bottle as I asked council and police in Brighton, I have a chronic disease that causes horrible pain 247 and often think of how will i die if it all gets too much, dignitas costs money, and expensive just getting there, Anxiety attacks PTSD and deep depression i wouldnt wish on anyone and it does impare your rational thinking, its not selfish act, desperate men do desperate thngs, and i know this , with 34 suicides a week under IDS CAMERON ESTHERMCVEY with sanctions and ATOS suicides, it hasnt gone away despite demonstrations nationwide via the @wowpetition and I can say this is without doubt the most callus uncaring government i have ever come across. N3TW0RK23
  • Score: 25

6:20pm Wed 7 May 14

sugar man says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.
Does he need to have them in order to have an opinion?

How were 'mental health issues' involved?
"how were mental health issues involved?"....is that a serious question?!
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.[/p][/quote]Does he need to have them in order to have an opinion? How were 'mental health issues' involved?[/p][/quote]"how were mental health issues involved?"....is that a serious question?! sugar man
  • Score: 8

6:54pm Wed 7 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.
Does he need to have them in order to have an opinion?

How were 'mental health issues' involved?
"how were mental health issues involved?"....is that a serious question?!
Do I look as if I'm joking?

Now, answer the question.....if you can.
[quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.[/p][/quote]Does he need to have them in order to have an opinion? How were 'mental health issues' involved?[/p][/quote]"how were mental health issues involved?"....is that a serious question?![/p][/quote]Do I look as if I'm joking? Now, answer the question.....if you can. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -12

7:10pm Wed 7 May 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 13

7:11pm Wed 7 May 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

I should say that depression can be very serious. I didn't mean to downplay it my last comment.
I should say that depression can be very serious. I didn't mean to downplay it my last comment. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 6

7:19pm Wed 7 May 14

sugar man says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.
Does he need to have them in order to have an opinion?

How were 'mental health issues' involved?
"how were mental health issues involved?"....is that a serious question?!
Do I look as if I'm joking?

Now, answer the question.....if you can.
someone purposefully set themselves on fire after previously shouting in the street. does that sound like rational behaviour to you? to me it sounds like someone in extreme distress. i'd love to hear your take on it....
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.[/p][/quote]Does he need to have them in order to have an opinion? How were 'mental health issues' involved?[/p][/quote]"how were mental health issues involved?"....is that a serious question?![/p][/quote]Do I look as if I'm joking? Now, answer the question.....if you can.[/p][/quote]someone purposefully set themselves on fire after previously shouting in the street. does that sound like rational behaviour to you? to me it sounds like someone in extreme distress. i'd love to hear your take on it.... sugar man
  • Score: 11

7:24pm Wed 7 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.
Does he need to have them in order to have an opinion?

How were 'mental health issues' involved?
"how were mental health issues involved?"....is that a serious question?!
Do I look as if I'm joking?

Now, answer the question.....if you can.
someone purposefully set themselves on fire after previously shouting in the street. does that sound like rational behaviour to you? to me it sounds like someone in extreme distress. i'd love to hear your take on it....
I haven't questioned his obvious distress. I've questioned the 'mental health' comments made by people who have no idea why this horrific incident occurred.

It is quite possible that he was seeking to avoid arrest for a crime, for example.
[quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.[/p][/quote]Does he need to have them in order to have an opinion? How were 'mental health issues' involved?[/p][/quote]"how were mental health issues involved?"....is that a serious question?![/p][/quote]Do I look as if I'm joking? Now, answer the question.....if you can.[/p][/quote]someone purposefully set themselves on fire after previously shouting in the street. does that sound like rational behaviour to you? to me it sounds like someone in extreme distress. i'd love to hear your take on it....[/p][/quote]I haven't questioned his obvious distress. I've questioned the 'mental health' comments made by people who have no idea why this horrific incident occurred. It is quite possible that he was seeking to avoid arrest for a crime, for example. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -15

7:42pm Wed 7 May 14

sugar man says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.
Does he need to have them in order to have an opinion?

How were 'mental health issues' involved?
"how were mental health issues involved?"....is that a serious question?!
Do I look as if I'm joking?

Now, answer the question.....if you can.
someone purposefully set themselves on fire after previously shouting in the street. does that sound like rational behaviour to you? to me it sounds like someone in extreme distress. i'd love to hear your take on it....
I haven't questioned his obvious distress. I've questioned the 'mental health' comments made by people who have no idea why this horrific incident occurred.

It is quite possible that he was seeking to avoid arrest for a crime, for example.
hmm, i find that theory highly, highly unlikely. in fact i'm 99.9% confident that that isn't the case. but, there is indeed a small chance. personally i'm going with mental health issues though. and i'm hoping once he's recovered he gets looked after properly.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.[/p][/quote]Does he need to have them in order to have an opinion? How were 'mental health issues' involved?[/p][/quote]"how were mental health issues involved?"....is that a serious question?![/p][/quote]Do I look as if I'm joking? Now, answer the question.....if you can.[/p][/quote]someone purposefully set themselves on fire after previously shouting in the street. does that sound like rational behaviour to you? to me it sounds like someone in extreme distress. i'd love to hear your take on it....[/p][/quote]I haven't questioned his obvious distress. I've questioned the 'mental health' comments made by people who have no idea why this horrific incident occurred. It is quite possible that he was seeking to avoid arrest for a crime, for example.[/p][/quote]hmm, i find that theory highly, highly unlikely. in fact i'm 99.9% confident that that isn't the case. but, there is indeed a small chance. personally i'm going with mental health issues though. and i'm hoping once he's recovered he gets looked after properly. sugar man
  • Score: 9

8:36pm Wed 7 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.
Does he need to have them in order to have an opinion?

How were 'mental health issues' involved?
"how were mental health issues involved?"....is that a serious question?!
Do I look as if I'm joking?

Now, answer the question.....if you can.
someone purposefully set themselves on fire after previously shouting in the street. does that sound like rational behaviour to you? to me it sounds like someone in extreme distress. i'd love to hear your take on it....
I haven't questioned his obvious distress. I've questioned the 'mental health' comments made by people who have no idea why this horrific incident occurred.

It is quite possible that he was seeking to avoid arrest for a crime, for example.
hmm, i find that theory highly, highly unlikely. in fact i'm 99.9% confident that that isn't the case. but, there is indeed a small chance. personally i'm going with mental health issues though. and i'm hoping once he's recovered he gets looked after properly.
So you're basing your opinion on......absolutely nothing.
[quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]you obviously have no understanding of mental health issues whatsoever.[/p][/quote]Does he need to have them in order to have an opinion? How were 'mental health issues' involved?[/p][/quote]"how were mental health issues involved?"....is that a serious question?![/p][/quote]Do I look as if I'm joking? Now, answer the question.....if you can.[/p][/quote]someone purposefully set themselves on fire after previously shouting in the street. does that sound like rational behaviour to you? to me it sounds like someone in extreme distress. i'd love to hear your take on it....[/p][/quote]I haven't questioned his obvious distress. I've questioned the 'mental health' comments made by people who have no idea why this horrific incident occurred. It is quite possible that he was seeking to avoid arrest for a crime, for example.[/p][/quote]hmm, i find that theory highly, highly unlikely. in fact i'm 99.9% confident that that isn't the case. but, there is indeed a small chance. personally i'm going with mental health issues though. and i'm hoping once he's recovered he gets looked after properly.[/p][/quote]So you're basing your opinion on......absolutely nothing. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -10

8:53pm Wed 7 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -9

9:53pm Wed 7 May 14

sugar man says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame. sugar man
  • Score: 15

10:05pm Wed 7 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health.

My observation's about this thread have been:

1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself.

2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to.

" i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. "

I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
[quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -9

10:28pm Wed 7 May 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health.

My observation's about this thread have been:

1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself.

2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to.

" i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. "

I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.[/p][/quote]Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 6

10:31pm Wed 7 May 14

sugar man says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health.

My observation's about this thread have been:

1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself.

2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to.

" i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. "

I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
nice of you to point out that he did it in daylight. i'm sure he will definitely take that into consideration the next time he is so distressed he sets alight to himself. you are his anchor, his shining light. i salute you. you should start volunteering with the samaritans, they could really use someone like you.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.[/p][/quote]nice of you to point out that he did it in daylight. i'm sure he will definitely take that into consideration the next time he is so distressed he sets alight to himself. you are his anchor, his shining light. i salute you. you should start volunteering with the samaritans, they could really use someone like you. sugar man
  • Score: 5

10:35pm Wed 7 May 14

sugar man says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health.

My observation's about this thread have been:

1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself.

2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to.

" i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. "

I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.
ahh, now it all makes sense :)
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.[/p][/quote]Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.[/p][/quote]ahh, now it all makes sense :) sugar man
  • Score: 2

12:17am Thu 8 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health.

My observation's about this thread have been:

1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself.

2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to.

" i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. "

I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
nice of you to point out that he did it in daylight. i'm sure he will definitely take that into consideration the next time he is so distressed he sets alight to himself. you are his anchor, his shining light. i salute you. you should start volunteering with the samaritans, they could really use someone like you.
Oh, NOW I understand why mental health is such an important factor in your life.

For a bit, I thought you were simply a wind-up merchant.......be nice to your nurse ;-)
[quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.[/p][/quote]nice of you to point out that he did it in daylight. i'm sure he will definitely take that into consideration the next time he is so distressed he sets alight to himself. you are his anchor, his shining light. i salute you. you should start volunteering with the samaritans, they could really use someone like you.[/p][/quote]Oh, NOW I understand why mental health is such an important factor in your life. For a bit, I thought you were simply a wind-up merchant.......be nice to your nurse ;-) ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -7

12:19am Thu 8 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health.

My observation's about this thread have been:

1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself.

2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to.

" i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. "

I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.
I have to repeat points for the hard-of-understandin
g, and if you weren't one of them, you wouldn't have needed that pointing out.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.[/p][/quote]Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.[/p][/quote]I have to repeat points for the hard-of-understandin g, and if you weren't one of them, you wouldn't have needed that pointing out. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -4

1:27am Thu 8 May 14

another 1 says...

no sympathy I'm afraid - a selfish act witnessed by many, what a horrible thing to watch.
no sympathy I'm afraid - a selfish act witnessed by many, what a horrible thing to watch. another 1
  • Score: -6

10:18am Thu 8 May 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health.

My observation's about this thread have been:

1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself.

2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to.

" i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. "

I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.
I have to repeat points for the hard-of-understandin

g, and if you weren't one of them, you wouldn't have needed that pointing out.

HTH
You arrived here commenting incessantly on the March for England story. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have been marched back to the train station. Still hanging around, like a bad smell. I suppose at least that way you expose your backward views to all and sundry. Question for you. As you mock mental health, I just wondered how you feel about soldiers coming back with PTSD? After all, you patriots are supposed to be devoted to 'are country' (sic) and 'supporting are boys' (sic) aren't you?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.[/p][/quote]Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.[/p][/quote]I have to repeat points for the hard-of-understandin g, and if you weren't one of them, you wouldn't have needed that pointing out. HTH[/p][/quote]You arrived here commenting incessantly on the March for England story. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have been marched back to the train station. Still hanging around, like a bad smell. I suppose at least that way you expose your backward views to all and sundry. Question for you. As you mock mental health, I just wondered how you feel about soldiers coming back with PTSD? After all, you patriots are supposed to be devoted to 'are country' (sic) and 'supporting are boys' (sic) aren't you? thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 5

10:22am Thu 8 May 14

Fairfax Aches says...

This is totally shocking to hear and also very inappropriate use of fuel which should of course be used primarily for transport or other power generation purposes.
This is totally shocking to hear and also very inappropriate use of fuel which should of course be used primarily for transport or other power generation purposes. Fairfax Aches
  • Score: 0

11:02am Thu 8 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health.

My observation's about this thread have been:

1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself.

2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to.

" i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. "

I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.
I have to repeat points for the hard-of-understandin


g, and if you weren't one of them, you wouldn't have needed that pointing out.

HTH
You arrived here commenting incessantly on the March for England story. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have been marched back to the train station. Still hanging around, like a bad smell. I suppose at least that way you expose your backward views to all and sundry. Question for you. As you mock mental health, I just wondered how you feel about soldiers coming back with PTSD? After all, you patriots are supposed to be devoted to 'are country' (sic) and 'supporting are boys' (sic) aren't you?
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

The MFE threads were there for all to discuss, not merely those who agreed with your ridiculous viewpoint. I recall that you weren't able to discuss any of the posts rationally and with even nod to reality.

I haven't mocked mental health. It's a real shame I had to point that, but there are some very stupid people commenting upon my posts. I have merely pointed out to the 'oh, mental health must be involved' brigade that they have no proof of that. My concern on this thread has been the fact that he did a very selfish act with no regard for anyone else.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.[/p][/quote]Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.[/p][/quote]I have to repeat points for the hard-of-understandin g, and if you weren't one of them, you wouldn't have needed that pointing out. HTH[/p][/quote]You arrived here commenting incessantly on the March for England story. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have been marched back to the train station. Still hanging around, like a bad smell. I suppose at least that way you expose your backward views to all and sundry. Question for you. As you mock mental health, I just wondered how you feel about soldiers coming back with PTSD? After all, you patriots are supposed to be devoted to 'are country' (sic) and 'supporting are boys' (sic) aren't you?[/p][/quote]You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you? The MFE threads were there for all to discuss, not merely those who agreed with your ridiculous viewpoint. I recall that you weren't able to discuss any of the posts rationally and with even nod to reality. I haven't mocked mental health. It's a real shame I had to point that, but there are some very stupid people commenting upon my posts. I have merely pointed out to the 'oh, mental health must be involved' brigade that they have no proof of that. My concern on this thread has been the fact that he did a very selfish act with no regard for anyone else. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -8

11:21am Thu 8 May 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health.

My observation's about this thread have been:

1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself.

2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to.

" i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. "

I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.
I have to repeat points for the hard-of-understandin



g, and if you weren't one of them, you wouldn't have needed that pointing out.

HTH
You arrived here commenting incessantly on the March for England story. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have been marched back to the train station. Still hanging around, like a bad smell. I suppose at least that way you expose your backward views to all and sundry. Question for you. As you mock mental health, I just wondered how you feel about soldiers coming back with PTSD? After all, you patriots are supposed to be devoted to 'are country' (sic) and 'supporting are boys' (sic) aren't you?
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

The MFE threads were there for all to discuss, not merely those who agreed with your ridiculous viewpoint. I recall that you weren't able to discuss any of the posts rationally and with even nod to reality.

I haven't mocked mental health. It's a real shame I had to point that, but there are some very stupid people commenting upon my posts. I have merely pointed out to the 'oh, mental health must be involved' brigade that they have no proof of that. My concern on this thread has been the fact that he did a very selfish act with no regard for anyone else.

HTH
Oh, you thought it was a selfish act with no concern for anyone else? That must have passed me by after the fifth time you told us. I get the impression that in real life you must be quite a bore. However, nice swerve of the question. And you did mock mental health by suggesting someone above is mentally ill - as if that would be something to be ashamed of.

PS. You must have the memory of a goldfish. I didn't get involved on the MfE board. Your numerous (hundreds wasn't it?) posts were so dull, I feel asleep while scrolling through them.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.[/p][/quote]Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.[/p][/quote]I have to repeat points for the hard-of-understandin g, and if you weren't one of them, you wouldn't have needed that pointing out. HTH[/p][/quote]You arrived here commenting incessantly on the March for England story. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have been marched back to the train station. Still hanging around, like a bad smell. I suppose at least that way you expose your backward views to all and sundry. Question for you. As you mock mental health, I just wondered how you feel about soldiers coming back with PTSD? After all, you patriots are supposed to be devoted to 'are country' (sic) and 'supporting are boys' (sic) aren't you?[/p][/quote]You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you? The MFE threads were there for all to discuss, not merely those who agreed with your ridiculous viewpoint. I recall that you weren't able to discuss any of the posts rationally and with even nod to reality. I haven't mocked mental health. It's a real shame I had to point that, but there are some very stupid people commenting upon my posts. I have merely pointed out to the 'oh, mental health must be involved' brigade that they have no proof of that. My concern on this thread has been the fact that he did a very selfish act with no regard for anyone else. HTH[/p][/quote]Oh, you thought it was a selfish act with no concern for anyone else? That must have passed me by after the fifth time you told us. I get the impression that in real life you must be quite a bore. However, nice swerve of the question. And you did mock mental health by suggesting someone above is mentally ill - as if that would be something to be ashamed of. PS. You must have the memory of a goldfish. I didn't get involved on the MfE board. Your numerous (hundreds wasn't it?) posts were so dull, I feel asleep while scrolling through them. HTH thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 3

11:31am Thu 8 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"Oh, you thought it was a selfish act with no concern for anyone else? That must have passed me by after the fifth time you told us."

So you were told something five times and yet it still didn't sink in.

I think we know who the goldfish is.
"Oh, you thought it was a selfish act with no concern for anyone else? That must have passed me by after the fifth time you told us." So you were told something five times and yet it still didn't sink in. I think we know who the goldfish is. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -7

11:33am Thu 8 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"And you did mock mental health by suggesting someone above is mentally ill "

I was mocking them for banging on about mental health being involved in this case.
"And you did mock mental health by suggesting someone above is mentally ill " I was mocking them for banging on about mental health being involved in this case. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

12:36pm Thu 8 May 14

sugar man says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health.

My observation's about this thread have been:

1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself.

2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to.

" i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. "

I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.
I have to repeat points for the hard-of-understandin



g, and if you weren't one of them, you wouldn't have needed that pointing out.

HTH
You arrived here commenting incessantly on the March for England story. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have been marched back to the train station. Still hanging around, like a bad smell. I suppose at least that way you expose your backward views to all and sundry. Question for you. As you mock mental health, I just wondered how you feel about soldiers coming back with PTSD? After all, you patriots are supposed to be devoted to 'are country' (sic) and 'supporting are boys' (sic) aren't you?
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

The MFE threads were there for all to discuss, not merely those who agreed with your ridiculous viewpoint. I recall that you weren't able to discuss any of the posts rationally and with even nod to reality.

I haven't mocked mental health. It's a real shame I had to point that, but there are some very stupid people commenting upon my posts. I have merely pointed out to the 'oh, mental health must be involved' brigade that they have no proof of that. My concern on this thread has been the fact that he did a very selfish act with no regard for anyone else.

HTH
i lost interest when i realised you were one of the "March for England" morons.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.[/p][/quote]Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.[/p][/quote]I have to repeat points for the hard-of-understandin g, and if you weren't one of them, you wouldn't have needed that pointing out. HTH[/p][/quote]You arrived here commenting incessantly on the March for England story. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have been marched back to the train station. Still hanging around, like a bad smell. I suppose at least that way you expose your backward views to all and sundry. Question for you. As you mock mental health, I just wondered how you feel about soldiers coming back with PTSD? After all, you patriots are supposed to be devoted to 'are country' (sic) and 'supporting are boys' (sic) aren't you?[/p][/quote]You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you? The MFE threads were there for all to discuss, not merely those who agreed with your ridiculous viewpoint. I recall that you weren't able to discuss any of the posts rationally and with even nod to reality. I haven't mocked mental health. It's a real shame I had to point that, but there are some very stupid people commenting upon my posts. I have merely pointed out to the 'oh, mental health must be involved' brigade that they have no proof of that. My concern on this thread has been the fact that he did a very selfish act with no regard for anyone else. HTH[/p][/quote]i lost interest when i realised you were one of the "March for England" morons. sugar man
  • Score: 4

12:44pm Thu 8 May 14

graham_Seagull says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.
I have to repeat points for the hard-of-understandin g, and if you weren't one of them, you wouldn't have needed that pointing out. HTH
You arrived here commenting incessantly on the March for England story. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have been marched back to the train station. Still hanging around, like a bad smell. I suppose at least that way you expose your backward views to all and sundry. Question for you. As you mock mental health, I just wondered how you feel about soldiers coming back with PTSD? After all, you patriots are supposed to be devoted to 'are country' (sic) and 'supporting are boys' (sic) aren't you?
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you? The MFE threads were there for all to discuss, not merely those who agreed with your ridiculous viewpoint. I recall that you weren't able to discuss any of the posts rationally and with even nod to reality. I haven't mocked mental health. It's a real shame I had to point that, but there are some very stupid people commenting upon my posts. I have merely pointed out to the 'oh, mental health must be involved' brigade that they have no proof of that. My concern on this thread has been the fact that he did a very selfish act with no regard for anyone else. HTH
If you took the time to understand what constitutes a mental health issue, a fundamental breakdown in the ability to continue living a 'normal' life, then perhaps you wouldnt be posting such rubbish.

No sane individual would ever set themselves alight, they must be driven to it.

Please stop posting comments on something that you clearly known absolutely nothing about.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.[/p][/quote]Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.[/p][/quote]I have to repeat points for the hard-of-understandin g, and if you weren't one of them, you wouldn't have needed that pointing out. HTH[/p][/quote]You arrived here commenting incessantly on the March for England story. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have been marched back to the train station. Still hanging around, like a bad smell. I suppose at least that way you expose your backward views to all and sundry. Question for you. As you mock mental health, I just wondered how you feel about soldiers coming back with PTSD? After all, you patriots are supposed to be devoted to 'are country' (sic) and 'supporting are boys' (sic) aren't you?[/p][/quote]You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you? The MFE threads were there for all to discuss, not merely those who agreed with your ridiculous viewpoint. I recall that you weren't able to discuss any of the posts rationally and with even nod to reality. I haven't mocked mental health. It's a real shame I had to point that, but there are some very stupid people commenting upon my posts. I have merely pointed out to the 'oh, mental health must be involved' brigade that they have no proof of that. My concern on this thread has been the fact that he did a very selfish act with no regard for anyone else. HTH[/p][/quote]If you took the time to understand what constitutes a mental health issue, a fundamental breakdown in the ability to continue living a 'normal' life, then perhaps you wouldnt be posting such rubbish. No sane individual would ever set themselves alight, they must be driven to it. Please stop posting comments on something that you clearly known absolutely nothing about. graham_Seagull
  • Score: 9

2:02pm Thu 8 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

graham_Seagull wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.
I have to repeat points for the hard-of-understandin g, and if you weren't one of them, you wouldn't have needed that pointing out. HTH
You arrived here commenting incessantly on the March for England story. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have been marched back to the train station. Still hanging around, like a bad smell. I suppose at least that way you expose your backward views to all and sundry. Question for you. As you mock mental health, I just wondered how you feel about soldiers coming back with PTSD? After all, you patriots are supposed to be devoted to 'are country' (sic) and 'supporting are boys' (sic) aren't you?
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you? The MFE threads were there for all to discuss, not merely those who agreed with your ridiculous viewpoint. I recall that you weren't able to discuss any of the posts rationally and with even nod to reality. I haven't mocked mental health. It's a real shame I had to point that, but there are some very stupid people commenting upon my posts. I have merely pointed out to the 'oh, mental health must be involved' brigade that they have no proof of that. My concern on this thread has been the fact that he did a very selfish act with no regard for anyone else. HTH
If you took the time to understand what constitutes a mental health issue, a fundamental breakdown in the ability to continue living a 'normal' life, then perhaps you wouldnt be posting such rubbish.

No sane individual would ever set themselves alight, they must be driven to it.

Please stop posting comments on something that you clearly known absolutely nothing about.
I haven't discussed the issues that caused him to to this action.

I've simply pointed out that NONE of us know why he did it and that he had a total disregard for others.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]graham_Seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.[/p][/quote]Oh do stop banging on making the same point again and again. Your question has already been answered, but you would prefer to drift off into an imaginary world, where people set fire to themselves just to be inconsiderate. Shouldn't you be commenting on the story about the MfE twonk being charged for harrassment? One of your pals, I believe.[/p][/quote]I have to repeat points for the hard-of-understandin g, and if you weren't one of them, you wouldn't have needed that pointing out. HTH[/p][/quote]You arrived here commenting incessantly on the March for England story. Unfortunately, you don't seem to have been marched back to the train station. Still hanging around, like a bad smell. I suppose at least that way you expose your backward views to all and sundry. Question for you. As you mock mental health, I just wondered how you feel about soldiers coming back with PTSD? After all, you patriots are supposed to be devoted to 'are country' (sic) and 'supporting are boys' (sic) aren't you?[/p][/quote]You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you? The MFE threads were there for all to discuss, not merely those who agreed with your ridiculous viewpoint. I recall that you weren't able to discuss any of the posts rationally and with even nod to reality. I haven't mocked mental health. It's a real shame I had to point that, but there are some very stupid people commenting upon my posts. I have merely pointed out to the 'oh, mental health must be involved' brigade that they have no proof of that. My concern on this thread has been the fact that he did a very selfish act with no regard for anyone else. HTH[/p][/quote]If you took the time to understand what constitutes a mental health issue, a fundamental breakdown in the ability to continue living a 'normal' life, then perhaps you wouldnt be posting such rubbish. No sane individual would ever set themselves alight, they must be driven to it. Please stop posting comments on something that you clearly known absolutely nothing about.[/p][/quote]I haven't discussed the issues that caused him to to this action. I've simply pointed out that NONE of us know why he did it and that he had a total disregard for others. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -5

6:40pm Thu 8 May 14

Monkeymoo1 says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health.

My observation's about this thread have been:

1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself.

2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to.

" i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. "

I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
nice of you to point out that he did it in daylight. i'm sure he will definitely take that into consideration the next time he is so distressed he sets alight to himself. you are his anchor, his shining light. i salute you. you should start volunteering with the samaritans, they could really use someone like you.
Oh, NOW I understand why mental health is such an important factor in your life.

For a bit, I thought you were simply a wind-up merchant.......be nice to your nurse ;-)
You two should just shag and get over it
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.[/p][/quote]nice of you to point out that he did it in daylight. i'm sure he will definitely take that into consideration the next time he is so distressed he sets alight to himself. you are his anchor, his shining light. i salute you. you should start volunteering with the samaritans, they could really use someone like you.[/p][/quote]Oh, NOW I understand why mental health is such an important factor in your life. For a bit, I thought you were simply a wind-up merchant.......be nice to your nurse ;-)[/p][/quote]You two should just shag and get over it Monkeymoo1
  • Score: 1

8:06pm Thu 8 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Monkeymoo1 wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health.

My observation's about this thread have been:

1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself.

2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to.

" i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. "

I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
nice of you to point out that he did it in daylight. i'm sure he will definitely take that into consideration the next time he is so distressed he sets alight to himself. you are his anchor, his shining light. i salute you. you should start volunteering with the samaritans, they could really use someone like you.
Oh, NOW I understand why mental health is such an important factor in your life.

For a bit, I thought you were simply a wind-up merchant.......be nice to your nurse ;-)
You two should just shag and get over it
You quoted four people, not two.
[quote][p][bold]Monkeymoo1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.[/p][/quote]nice of you to point out that he did it in daylight. i'm sure he will definitely take that into consideration the next time he is so distressed he sets alight to himself. you are his anchor, his shining light. i salute you. you should start volunteering with the samaritans, they could really use someone like you.[/p][/quote]Oh, NOW I understand why mental health is such an important factor in your life. For a bit, I thought you were simply a wind-up merchant.......be nice to your nurse ;-)[/p][/quote]You two should just shag and get over it[/p][/quote]You quoted four people, not two. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 0

2:45am Sun 11 May 14

Mr chock says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Monkeymoo1 wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
sugar man wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Andy R wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
I fully agree.

He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.
Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?
Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.
He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.
So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act.

The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.
sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.
You keep banging on about mental health.

My observation's about this thread have been:

1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself.

2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to.

" i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. "

I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.
nice of you to point out that he did it in daylight. i'm sure he will definitely take that into consideration the next time he is so distressed he sets alight to himself. you are his anchor, his shining light. i salute you. you should start volunteering with the samaritans, they could really use someone like you.
Oh, NOW I understand why mental health is such an important factor in your life.

For a bit, I thought you were simply a wind-up merchant.......be nice to your nurse ;-)
You two should just shag and get over it
You quoted four people, not two.
wow i have not read this ... any of this .." but its funny .. its the most commented on thing the argus said 53 comments " now i see LOADS are you two geezers having a bit of an online blabla .. keep it up Fun fun fun..nite nite
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monkeymoo1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sugar man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]I fully agree. He gave no thought whatsoever to anyone else.[/p][/quote]Such a typical comment from you. Ever heard the saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt?[/p][/quote]Feel free to explain precisely what he did that YOU consider showed that he cared for people other than himself.[/p][/quote]He cared less for himself but we do not know his history and what drove him to this dark place. Whether it is depression or something more serious, it certainly is a mental health issue. I suggest you read the MIND website to enlighten yourself.[/p][/quote]So you have nothing on which to base your claim that he obviously thought of others whilst committing this act. The fact is that he didn't care about anything or anyone who would be dealing with it and the aftermath. He performed it in daylight hours on a busy street at a time when even schoolkids would be around.[/p][/quote]sounds like you either have a massive chip on your shoulder, or you are a complete moron that fails to understand mental health. do you honestly think that this guy was in the right state of mind to consider other people? when people jump off a building, do you honestly think they have the capacity to think things like "hmm, i wonder how this will affect other people?" or "hmm...i wonder if i should to this in daylight or at night time?". please, learn a little something about mental health, it will help you have a better understanding of your fellow humans. god forbid anyone in your family should ever suffer from it. i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. i can only put your views down to a total lack of education. shame.[/p][/quote]You keep banging on about mental health. My observation's about this thread have been: 1. That the guy acted without a care for anyone other than himself. 2. That NO-ONE knows what drove him to it, despite several people claiming to. " i can't believe you would think that someone could make a rational decision about what time of day to set alight to themselves. " I haven't made any claims about the reason behind his timing. I simply pointed out that he did it at a busy time alongside a busy road (apparently outside a busy restaurant) with no regard whatsoever about those who were to witness it and deal with the aftermath.[/p][/quote]nice of you to point out that he did it in daylight. i'm sure he will definitely take that into consideration the next time he is so distressed he sets alight to himself. you are his anchor, his shining light. i salute you. you should start volunteering with the samaritans, they could really use someone like you.[/p][/quote]Oh, NOW I understand why mental health is such an important factor in your life. For a bit, I thought you were simply a wind-up merchant.......be nice to your nurse ;-)[/p][/quote]You two should just shag and get over it[/p][/quote]You quoted four people, not two.[/p][/quote]wow i have not read this ... any of this .." but its funny .. its the most commented on thing the argus said 53 comments " now i see LOADS are you two geezers having a bit of an online blabla .. keep it up Fun fun fun..nite nite Mr chock
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9:18am Mon 12 May 14

ThinkBrighton says...

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
This government has cut funding to the mental health services and this is probably the result. He won't get the help he needs because it is no longer there.

The conservatives and lib dems are a national disgrace.

I hope this man finds peace.
So this burning man was a political thing!
There is a time and place for politics and this isn't one of them
You selfish prat!
[quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: This government has cut funding to the mental health services and this is probably the result. He won't get the help he needs because it is no longer there. The conservatives and lib dems are a national disgrace. I hope this man finds peace.[/p][/quote]So this burning man was a political thing! There is a time and place for politics and this isn't one of them You selfish prat! ThinkBrighton
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9:18pm Wed 14 May 14

Levent says...

bagmad wrote:
Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.
Do you NOT think he wasn't in his right mind by any chance moron?

Perhaps he was a tad desperate?..., but go ahead and judge the situation
anyway. I wonder how many would put a fire out on you d1ckhead???
[quote][p][bold]bagmad[/bold] wrote: Sorry, but a selfish act in my opinion. Needless strain on the NHS and a lot if innocent people traumatised. He did not need to put them through that, whatever his issues. Hope he will recover and get the help he needs via a sensible course of action and perhaps spare a thought for other people in future.[/p][/quote]Do you NOT think he wasn't in his right mind by any chance moron? Perhaps he was a tad desperate?..., but go ahead and judge the situation anyway. I wonder how many would put a fire out on you d1ckhead??? Levent
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10:35pm Fri 16 May 14

Mr chock says...

N3TW0RK23 wrote:
When my best mates brother set himself on fire it wasnt a selfless act, he had lost everything, his job and his home , he was sanctioned which means he had benefits cut, no crisis loan anymore, no legal aid, better make sure you have lots if savings and never get ill, lost his job could not pay rent, defaulted on direct debits, No assigned doctor when your homeless, no mental health support for homeless not even access to hot water on a cold night for hot water bottle as I asked council and police in Brighton, I have a chronic disease that causes horrible pain 247 and often think of how will i die if it all gets too much, dignitas costs money, and expensive just getting there, Anxiety attacks PTSD and deep depression i wouldnt wish on anyone and it does impare your rational thinking, its not selfish act, desperate men do desperate thngs, and i know this , with 34 suicides a week under IDS CAMERON ESTHERMCVEY with sanctions and ATOS suicides, it hasnt gone away despite demonstrations nationwide via the @wowpetition and I can say this is without doubt the most callus uncaring government i have ever come across.
he was sanctioned which means he had benefits cut .. but it also means he was in a secure mental hospital with medication and 24/7 supervision WHAT did he need money then for ? and btw N3work23 if your brother has lost everything and set himself on fire why did he spend money on setting himself on fire its free to jump off a cliff Brighton near marina is plenty high nuff..
[quote][p][bold]N3TW0RK23[/bold] wrote: When my best mates brother set himself on fire it wasnt a selfless act, he had lost everything, his job and his home , he was sanctioned which means he had benefits cut, no crisis loan anymore, no legal aid, better make sure you have lots if savings and never get ill, lost his job could not pay rent, defaulted on direct debits, No assigned doctor when your homeless, no mental health support for homeless not even access to hot water on a cold night for hot water bottle as I asked council and police in Brighton, I have a chronic disease that causes horrible pain 247 and often think of how will i die if it all gets too much, dignitas costs money, and expensive just getting there, Anxiety attacks PTSD and deep depression i wouldnt wish on anyone and it does impare your rational thinking, its not selfish act, desperate men do desperate thngs, and i know this , with 34 suicides a week under IDS CAMERON ESTHERMCVEY with sanctions and ATOS suicides, it hasnt gone away despite demonstrations nationwide via the @wowpetition and I can say this is without doubt the most callus uncaring government i have ever come across.[/p][/quote]he was sanctioned which means he had benefits cut .. but it also means he was in a secure mental hospital with medication and 24/7 supervision WHAT did he need money then for ? and btw N3work23 if your brother has lost everything and set himself on fire why did he spend money on setting himself on fire its free to jump off a cliff Brighton near marina is plenty high nuff.. Mr chock
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