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Family tells of horror of language student lodger

The Argus: Family tells of horror of language student lodger Family tells of horror of language student lodger

A father has told of his horror after discovering a language student staying in his family home was a convicted sex offender.

The first Wayne Beavill knew of Czech Republic student Zdenek Junek's history was when police raided the family's home in Bevendean, Brighton and found indecent pictures of children on Junek's computer.

The 32-year-old was staying with Mr Beavill and his wife and two young sons for three months when he was stopped by police for filming children in Brighton's Old Steine.

Mr Beavill has since learned that Junek has a criminal record for similar offences in his home country.

Mr Beavill, who has to have regular criminal record checks (CRB) to make sure he is a suitable host for foreign language students, has asked why a sex offender was allowed to stay in his family home.

He said: “The police told us he had a history of similar offences in his own country.

“He seemed like a nice enough guy, kept himself to himself, so we never would have thought he's do something like this.

“He was due to stay with us until August and I dread to think what could have happened if he'd not been caught.

“In hindsight we do keep thinking of things that might have been dodgy. He was always in his room on his computer.

“The language school, EF, CRB check all the host families but this guy wasn't CRB checked and was allowed to live in our house with our children.

“They haven't given us as much as an apology and have just said it's the first time it's ever happened.

“But if they're not checking students' background how many others do they not know about?”

Junek was jailed on Friday at Lewes Crown Court for 30 months for making indecent images of children, possessing indecent images of children and making an indecent video of children.

A spokeswoman for Sussex Police said the force would not have been aware of Junek's previous convictions until he was arrested in Sussex.

A spokeswoman for the Home Office explained that checks can be made on the criminal history of nationals of the Czech Republic by making an application to the Czech national criminal records office or embassy for a cost of about 50 Czech Koruna (about £1.50).

Vice-principal Bev Garth, of the EF language school, in Old Steine, where Junek was a student, said: “We were extremely shocked to hear of this case, as an accredited organization which complies fully with all the requirements of the industry.

“There are no standards or requirements for vetting visitors who are accommodated in private accommodation.

“We would never have knowingly placed someone with a known record within a family. The information is not available to us.

“We have discussed this direct with the host family concerned and apologised for any distress caused.”

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7:35am Thu 8 May 14

Kyle25 says...

Oh right so no apology to us from the language school we are only the victims family, lucky for him I was at work that day and it was my heavily pregnant wife and a passerby at the bus stop that caught him, I cannot even bring myself to say his name the monster. My children are safe thank god and the police done an excellent job, as for EF LANGUAGE SCHOOL they should make check on everyone. I still am furious !!!
Oh right so no apology to us from the language school we are only the victims family, lucky for him I was at work that day and it was my heavily pregnant wife and a passerby at the bus stop that caught him, I cannot even bring myself to say his name the monster. My children are safe thank god and the police done an excellent job, as for EF LANGUAGE SCHOOL they should make check on everyone. I still am furious !!! Kyle25
  • Score: 65

7:40am Thu 8 May 14

rubberflipper says...

This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain.

The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.
This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain. The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again. rubberflipper
  • Score: -26

7:42am Thu 8 May 14

Kyle25 says...

And by victims family I mean it was my children that scumbag was taking pictures of at the old stein.
And by victims family I mean it was my children that scumbag was taking pictures of at the old stein. Kyle25
  • Score: 43

9:35am Thu 8 May 14

Skidrow says...

rubberflipper wrote:
This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain. The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.
So we don't let anyone in or out dont buy anything off the foreigners and certainly don't sell them anything. No need for ports or airports or the tunnel. So wise, why did no one think of this before. We could be like a mix between North Korea and the old USSR.

EF owe their host families a duty of care which they have plainly neglected, to save £1.50 or so per "student". Sue the *rse off them & report them to their regulators if they have any.
[quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain. The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.[/p][/quote]So we don't let anyone in or out dont buy anything off the foreigners and certainly don't sell them anything. No need for ports or airports or the tunnel. So wise, why did no one think of this before. We could be like a mix between North Korea and the old USSR. EF owe their host families a duty of care which they have plainly neglected, to save £1.50 or so per "student". Sue the *rse off them & report them to their regulators if they have any. Skidrow
  • Score: 21

9:51am Thu 8 May 14

Goldenwight says...

So, lets get this straight. This guy takes in a (PAYING) lodger who later turns out to be committing criminal acts. Which are, incidentally, nothing to do with either his lodgings or the language school who have merely acted to introduce him to his landlord. There is nothing in the story to suggest or imply that they had undertaken any checks nor had they been asked to.

So presumably had he placed an ad in the Argus, or seen a notice in a newsagents window for this (PAYING) lodger he would be asking the Argus or the newsagents to apologise for what is, at the end of the day, his own lack of due diligence for failing to check someone out before he let them into his home.

Personally I would NEVER take in a lodger without obtaining references from their bank, previous landlord, and a personal reference. Perhaps this is why I have never had any problems with them.
So, lets get this straight. This guy takes in a (PAYING) lodger who later turns out to be committing criminal acts. Which are, incidentally, nothing to do with either his lodgings or the language school who have merely acted to introduce him to his landlord. There is nothing in the story to suggest or imply that they [language school] had undertaken any checks nor had they been asked to. So presumably had he placed an ad in the Argus, or seen a notice in a newsagents window for this (PAYING) lodger he would be asking the Argus or the newsagents to apologise for what is, at the end of the day, his own lack of due diligence for failing to check someone out before he let them into his home. Personally I would NEVER take in a lodger without obtaining references from their bank, previous landlord, and a personal reference. Perhaps this is why I have never had any problems with them. Goldenwight
  • Score: 15

9:54am Thu 8 May 14

Goldenwight says...

"They haven't given us as much as an apology. "

“We have discussed this direct with the host family concerned and apologised for any distress caused.”

Well someone is telling porkies, aren't they?
"They haven't given us as much as an apology. " “We have discussed this direct with the host family concerned and apologised for any distress caused.” Well someone is telling porkies, aren't they? Goldenwight
  • Score: 24

10:25am Thu 8 May 14

rubberflipper says...

Skidrow wrote:
rubberflipper wrote:
This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain. The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.
So we don't let anyone in or out dont buy anything off the foreigners and certainly don't sell them anything. No need for ports or airports or the tunnel. So wise, why did no one think of this before. We could be like a mix between North Korea and the old USSR.

EF owe their host families a duty of care which they have plainly neglected, to save £1.50 or so per "student". Sue the *rse off them & report them to their regulators if they have any.
You ignorant, uneducated little troll.

Before our treasonous politicians signed EU treaties giving away our right to self-govern as a sovereign nation various directives have been introduced by stealth. One in particular is Directive 2004/38/EC on the right of EU citizens and their family members to move and reside freely within the territory of the member states. This means NO Visa restrictions on any national who lives in the EU area. Anyone can have a criminal background and no EU member country can refuse them entry.

One big scam that is happening is Russians, Ukrainians etc who have the right to live in one of the Baltic states which are now EU members. Many of these have moved to Britain without restrictions.

This nation is drowning under a sea of mass immigration and action must be taken to put a stop to it.
[quote][p][bold]Skidrow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain. The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.[/p][/quote]So we don't let anyone in or out dont buy anything off the foreigners and certainly don't sell them anything. No need for ports or airports or the tunnel. So wise, why did no one think of this before. We could be like a mix between North Korea and the old USSR. EF owe their host families a duty of care which they have plainly neglected, to save £1.50 or so per "student". Sue the *rse off them & report them to their regulators if they have any.[/p][/quote]You ignorant, uneducated little troll. Before our treasonous politicians signed EU treaties giving away our right to self-govern as a sovereign nation various directives have been introduced by stealth. One in particular is Directive 2004/38/EC on the right of EU citizens and their family members to move and reside freely within the territory of the member states. This means NO Visa restrictions on any national who lives in the EU area. Anyone can have a criminal background and no EU member country can refuse them entry. One big scam that is happening is Russians, Ukrainians etc who have the right to live in one of the Baltic states which are now EU members. Many of these have moved to Britain without restrictions. This nation is drowning under a sea of mass immigration and action must be taken to put a stop to it. rubberflipper
  • Score: -18

10:30am Thu 8 May 14

Andy R says...

rubberflipper wrote:
This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain.

The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.
Absolutely hilarious......
[quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain. The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.[/p][/quote]Absolutely hilarious...... Andy R
  • Score: 23

10:50am Thu 8 May 14

Fairfax Aches says...

This guy was a foreign immigrant. I rest my case.
This guy was a foreign immigrant. I rest my case. Fairfax Aches
  • Score: -31

11:17am Thu 8 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Skidrow wrote:
rubberflipper wrote:
This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain. The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.
So we don't let anyone in or out dont buy anything off the foreigners and certainly don't sell them anything. No need for ports or airports or the tunnel. So wise, why did no one think of this before. We could be like a mix between North Korea and the old USSR.

EF owe their host families a duty of care which they have plainly neglected, to save £1.50 or so per "student". Sue the *rse off them & report them to their regulators if they have any.
I wasn't aware that North Korea and the USSR had immigration problems.

The UK certainly does, and it is THAT which should be concerning our politicians.

Skidrow was totally correct.

The reference to trade was truly pathetic, and demonstrates the mentality of those who advocate open borders. Once again, the transit of goods and services does not require the producers of same to travel to and remain in the country of destination.
[quote][p][bold]Skidrow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain. The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.[/p][/quote]So we don't let anyone in or out dont buy anything off the foreigners and certainly don't sell them anything. No need for ports or airports or the tunnel. So wise, why did no one think of this before. We could be like a mix between North Korea and the old USSR. EF owe their host families a duty of care which they have plainly neglected, to save £1.50 or so per "student". Sue the *rse off them & report them to their regulators if they have any.[/p][/quote]I wasn't aware that North Korea and the USSR had immigration problems. The UK certainly does, and it is THAT which should be concerning our politicians. Skidrow was totally correct. The reference to trade was truly pathetic, and demonstrates the mentality of those who advocate open borders. Once again, the transit of goods and services does not require the producers of same to travel to and remain in the country of destination. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 3

11:30am Thu 8 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Goldenwight wrote:
"They haven't given us as much as an apology. "

“We have discussed this direct with the host family concerned and apologised for any distress caused.”

Well someone is telling porkies, aren't they?
The apology in question was probably given to Junek.
[quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: "They haven't given us as much as an apology. " “We have discussed this direct with the host family concerned and apologised for any distress caused.” Well someone is telling porkies, aren't they?[/p][/quote]The apology in question was probably given to Junek. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

11:34am Thu 8 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

" I didn't get involved on the MfE board. Your numerous (hundreds wasn't it?) posts were so dull, I feel asleep while scrolling through them."

And who forced you to read them?

No wonder mental health issues are so close to your heart, lol.
" I didn't get involved on the MfE board. Your numerous (hundreds wasn't it?) posts were so dull, I feel asleep while scrolling through them." And who forced you to read them? No wonder mental health issues are so close to your heart, lol. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -6

12:29pm Thu 8 May 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
" I didn't get involved on the MfE board. Your numerous (hundreds wasn't it?) posts were so dull, I feel asleep while scrolling through them."

And who forced you to read them?

No wonder mental health issues are so close to your heart, lol.
You are posting on the wrong story, you plonker! Doh! Maybe you need to learn to read the story first. The trolling must be taking its toll.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: " I didn't get involved on the MfE board. Your numerous (hundreds wasn't it?) posts were so dull, I feel asleep while scrolling through them." And who forced you to read them? No wonder mental health issues are so close to your heart, lol.[/p][/quote]You are posting on the wrong story, you plonker! Doh! Maybe you need to learn to read the story first. The trolling must be taking its toll. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 9

2:05pm Thu 8 May 14

SexualHarassmentPanda says...

rubberflipper wrote:
This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain. The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.
Subtext: Combat paedophilia once and for all by voting for a vile bunch of bigoted cretins.

My hair's getting a bit long so I'm off to peel some potatoes. Wish me luck.
[quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain. The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.[/p][/quote]Subtext: Combat paedophilia once and for all by voting for a vile bunch of bigoted cretins. My hair's getting a bit long so I'm off to peel some potatoes. Wish me luck. SexualHarassmentPanda
  • Score: 6

2:19pm Thu 8 May 14

ThinkBrighton says...

It has been placed on record in the last week that the EU gives no actual benefit to the UK whatsoever, so why are we still members.
UKIP seems to have the right ideas, but some of their members are a bit on the moronic side of politics (nearly as worse than Labour, with it's bad memory about the sh1t it got us into in their last term of office)
It has been placed on record in the last week that the EU gives no actual benefit to the UK whatsoever, so why are we still members. UKIP seems to have the right ideas, but some of their members are a bit on the moronic side of politics (nearly as worse than Labour, with it's bad memory about the sh1t it got us into in their last term of office) ThinkBrighton
  • Score: -14

2:46pm Thu 8 May 14

Wide Bertha says...

rubberflipper wrote:
This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain.

The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.
they are also open for you to walk out ...
[quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain. The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.[/p][/quote]they are also open for you to walk out ... Wide Bertha
  • Score: 13

2:50pm Thu 8 May 14

Wide Bertha says...

ThinkBrighton wrote:
It has been placed on record in the last week that the EU gives no actual benefit to the UK whatsoever, so why are we still members.
UKIP seems to have the right ideas, but some of their members are a bit on the moronic side of politics (nearly as worse than Labour, with it's bad memory about the sh1t it got us into in their last term of office)
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[quote][p][bold]ThinkBrighton[/bold] wrote: It has been placed on record in the last week that the EU gives no actual benefit to the UK whatsoever, so why are we still members. UKIP seems to have the right ideas, but some of their members are a bit on the moronic side of politics (nearly as worse than Labour, with it's bad memory about the sh1t it got us into in their last term of office)[/p][/quote]https://www.facebook .com/photo.php?fbid= 558519610855003&set= a.126046340769001.98 11.124306287609673&t ype=1&theater Wide Bertha
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3:20pm Thu 8 May 14

Skidrow says...

rubberflipper wrote:
Skidrow wrote:
rubberflipper wrote: This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain. The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.
So we don't let anyone in or out dont buy anything off the foreigners and certainly don't sell them anything. No need for ports or airports or the tunnel. So wise, why did no one think of this before. We could be like a mix between North Korea and the old USSR. EF owe their host families a duty of care which they have plainly neglected, to save £1.50 or so per "student". Sue the *rse off them & report them to their regulators if they have any.
You ignorant, uneducated little troll. Before our treasonous politicians signed EU treaties giving away our right to self-govern as a sovereign nation various directives have been introduced by stealth. One in particular is Directive 2004/38/EC on the right of EU citizens and their family members to move and reside freely within the territory of the member states. This means NO Visa restrictions on any national who lives in the EU area. Anyone can have a criminal background and no EU member country can refuse them entry. One big scam that is happening is Russians, Ukrainians etc who have the right to live in one of the Baltic states which are now EU members. Many of these have moved to Britain without restrictions. This nation is drowning under a sea of mass immigration and action must be taken to put a stop to it.
Vote UKIP, you can see it makes sense...
[quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skidrow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rubberflipper[/bold] wrote: This is what happens when you allow your sovereign country to be ruled by a foreign, unelected and nefarious EU. Our borders are OPEN for anyone to walk in, pose as a student etc. When we had secure borders where a visa was required for all visitors if you had a criminal background you would not get entry into Britain. The damage has been done to our once secure country and if we are to reverse and repair it then UKIP is our only option. Join the party today and help to get control of our nation once again.[/p][/quote]So we don't let anyone in or out dont buy anything off the foreigners and certainly don't sell them anything. No need for ports or airports or the tunnel. So wise, why did no one think of this before. We could be like a mix between North Korea and the old USSR. EF owe their host families a duty of care which they have plainly neglected, to save £1.50 or so per "student". Sue the *rse off them & report them to their regulators if they have any.[/p][/quote]You ignorant, uneducated little troll. Before our treasonous politicians signed EU treaties giving away our right to self-govern as a sovereign nation various directives have been introduced by stealth. One in particular is Directive 2004/38/EC on the right of EU citizens and their family members to move and reside freely within the territory of the member states. This means NO Visa restrictions on any national who lives in the EU area. Anyone can have a criminal background and no EU member country can refuse them entry. One big scam that is happening is Russians, Ukrainians etc who have the right to live in one of the Baltic states which are now EU members. Many of these have moved to Britain without restrictions. This nation is drowning under a sea of mass immigration and action must be taken to put a stop to it.[/p][/quote]Vote UKIP, you can see it makes sense... Skidrow
  • Score: -16

3:28pm Thu 8 May 14

Skidrow says...

Goldenwight wrote:
So, lets get this straight. This guy takes in a (PAYING) lodger who later turns out to be committing criminal acts. Which are, incidentally, nothing to do with either his lodgings or the language school who have merely acted to introduce him to his landlord. There is nothing in the story to suggest or imply that they had undertaken any checks nor had they been asked to. So presumably had he placed an ad in the Argus, or seen a notice in a newsagents window for this (PAYING) lodger he would be asking the Argus or the newsagents to apologise for what is, at the end of the day, his own lack of due diligence for failing to check someone out before he let them into his home. Personally I would NEVER take in a lodger without obtaining references from their bank, previous landlord, and a personal reference. Perhaps this is why I have never had any problems with them.
That the language school don't run any checks when they introduce lodgers to unsuspecting host families is where they fall down on their duty of care. By introducing (or allocating) they are vouching for their client, the lodger. Now one has turned out to be an active practising paedophile, perhaps EF can give an assurance that they will check out at a cost of £1.50 each lodger in future? Host families mighty be a little wary if they don't...
Goldenwight do you really and truly get 3 references before taking a short term language student? How would any of the refernces you specify have eliminated this paedo as a potential tlodger of yours?
[quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: So, lets get this straight. This guy takes in a (PAYING) lodger who later turns out to be committing criminal acts. Which are, incidentally, nothing to do with either his lodgings or the language school who have merely acted to introduce him to his landlord. There is nothing in the story to suggest or imply that they [language school] had undertaken any checks nor had they been asked to. So presumably had he placed an ad in the Argus, or seen a notice in a newsagents window for this (PAYING) lodger he would be asking the Argus or the newsagents to apologise for what is, at the end of the day, his own lack of due diligence for failing to check someone out before he let them into his home. Personally I would NEVER take in a lodger without obtaining references from their bank, previous landlord, and a personal reference. Perhaps this is why I have never had any problems with them.[/p][/quote]That the language school don't run any checks when they introduce lodgers to unsuspecting host families is where they fall down on their duty of care. By introducing (or allocating) they are vouching for their client, the lodger. Now one has turned out to be an active practising paedophile, perhaps EF can give an assurance that they will check out at a cost of £1.50 each lodger in future? Host families mighty be a little wary if they don't... Goldenwight do you really and truly get 3 references before taking a short term language student? How would any of the refernces you specify have eliminated this paedo as a potential tlodger of yours? Skidrow
  • Score: 4

3:28pm Thu 8 May 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

Language schools make an enormous amount of money out of these horrible students who have non existent manners and many are very dishonest. The schools pay peanuts to the people who have them in their homes, it isn't worth the trouble they cause. They are filthy and don't wash.

Do not have any students in your homes and if you do, lock all your valuables away including your credit cards, bank cards, all money and your phones.
Language schools make an enormous amount of money out of these horrible students who have non existent manners and many are very dishonest. The schools pay peanuts to the people who have them in their homes, it isn't worth the trouble they cause. They are filthy and don't wash. Do not have any students in your homes and if you do, lock all your valuables away including your credit cards, bank cards, all money and your phones. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: -23

4:05pm Thu 8 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"Subtext: Combat paedophilia once and for all by voting for a vile bunch of bigoted cretins."

There is nothing bigoted about wishing to control ones borders.

Ghana has immigration controls.......are you claiming they are bigots?
"Subtext: Combat paedophilia once and for all by voting for a vile bunch of bigoted cretins." There is nothing bigoted about wishing to control ones borders. Ghana has immigration controls.......are you claiming they are bigots? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -14

6:15pm Thu 8 May 14

Waynebeavill says...

Goldenwight wrote:
So, lets get this straight. This guy takes in a (PAYING) lodger who later turns out to be committing criminal acts. Which are, incidentally, nothing to do with either his lodgings or the language school who have merely acted to introduce him to his landlord. There is nothing in the story to suggest or imply that they had undertaken any checks nor had they been asked to.

So presumably had he placed an ad in the Argus, or seen a notice in a newsagents window for this (PAYING) lodger he would be asking the Argus or the newsagents to apologise for what is, at the end of the day, his own lack of due diligence for failing to check someone out before he let them into his home.

Personally I would NEVER take in a lodger without obtaining references from their bank, previous landlord, and a personal reference. Perhaps this is why I have never had any problems with them.
If you read the story properly he is not a lodger who we have taken in it was a student sent to us from a national school and seems to me that you agree with his actions?????
[quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: So, lets get this straight. This guy takes in a (PAYING) lodger who later turns out to be committing criminal acts. Which are, incidentally, nothing to do with either his lodgings or the language school who have merely acted to introduce him to his landlord. There is nothing in the story to suggest or imply that they [language school] had undertaken any checks nor had they been asked to. So presumably had he placed an ad in the Argus, or seen a notice in a newsagents window for this (PAYING) lodger he would be asking the Argus or the newsagents to apologise for what is, at the end of the day, his own lack of due diligence for failing to check someone out before he let them into his home. Personally I would NEVER take in a lodger without obtaining references from their bank, previous landlord, and a personal reference. Perhaps this is why I have never had any problems with them.[/p][/quote]If you read the story properly he is not a lodger who we have taken in it was a student sent to us from a national school and seems to me that you agree with his actions????? Waynebeavill
  • Score: 5

6:18pm Thu 8 May 14

Waynebeavill says...

Skidrow wrote:
Goldenwight wrote:
So, lets get this straight. This guy takes in a (PAYING) lodger who later turns out to be committing criminal acts. Which are, incidentally, nothing to do with either his lodgings or the language school who have merely acted to introduce him to his landlord. There is nothing in the story to suggest or imply that they had undertaken any checks nor had they been asked to. So presumably had he placed an ad in the Argus, or seen a notice in a newsagents window for this (PAYING) lodger he would be asking the Argus or the newsagents to apologise for what is, at the end of the day, his own lack of due diligence for failing to check someone out before he let them into his home. Personally I would NEVER take in a lodger without obtaining references from their bank, previous landlord, and a personal reference. Perhaps this is why I have never had any problems with them.
That the language school don't run any checks when they introduce lodgers to unsuspecting host families is where they fall down on their duty of care. By introducing (or allocating) they are vouching for their client, the lodger. Now one has turned out to be an active practising paedophile, perhaps EF can give an assurance that they will check out at a cost of £1.50 each lodger in future? Host families mighty be a little wary if they don't...
Goldenwight do you really and truly get 3 references before taking a short term language student? How would any of the refernces you specify have eliminated this paedo as a potential tlodger of yours?
Maybe you should read this properly he was not a lodger but a student sent to us from an international to host as a family sounds to me you agree with his actions .??
[quote][p][bold]Skidrow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: So, lets get this straight. This guy takes in a (PAYING) lodger who later turns out to be committing criminal acts. Which are, incidentally, nothing to do with either his lodgings or the language school who have merely acted to introduce him to his landlord. There is nothing in the story to suggest or imply that they [language school] had undertaken any checks nor had they been asked to. So presumably had he placed an ad in the Argus, or seen a notice in a newsagents window for this (PAYING) lodger he would be asking the Argus or the newsagents to apologise for what is, at the end of the day, his own lack of due diligence for failing to check someone out before he let them into his home. Personally I would NEVER take in a lodger without obtaining references from their bank, previous landlord, and a personal reference. Perhaps this is why I have never had any problems with them.[/p][/quote]That the language school don't run any checks when they introduce lodgers to unsuspecting host families is where they fall down on their duty of care. By introducing (or allocating) they are vouching for their client, the lodger. Now one has turned out to be an active practising paedophile, perhaps EF can give an assurance that they will check out at a cost of £1.50 each lodger in future? Host families mighty be a little wary if they don't... Goldenwight do you really and truly get 3 references before taking a short term language student? How would any of the refernces you specify have eliminated this paedo as a potential tlodger of yours?[/p][/quote]Maybe you should read this properly he was not a lodger but a student sent to us from an international to host as a family sounds to me you agree with his actions .?? Waynebeavill
  • Score: 5

6:22pm Thu 8 May 14

Waynebeavill says...

Kyle25 wrote:
Oh right so no apology to us from the language school we are only the victims family, lucky for him I was at work that day and it was my heavily pregnant wife and a passerby at the bus stop that caught him, I cannot even bring myself to say his name the monster. My children are safe thank god and the police done an excellent job, as for EF LANGUAGE SCHOOL they should make check on everyone. I still am furious !!!
We are so sorry this happened I hope you are all ok .by us going to the papers and TV today BBC South eats .I hope the law changes so families like us and yours are safe from people like this
[quote][p][bold]Kyle25[/bold] wrote: Oh right so no apology to us from the language school we are only the victims family, lucky for him I was at work that day and it was my heavily pregnant wife and a passerby at the bus stop that caught him, I cannot even bring myself to say his name the monster. My children are safe thank god and the police done an excellent job, as for EF LANGUAGE SCHOOL they should make check on everyone. I still am furious !!![/p][/quote]We are so sorry this happened I hope you are all ok .by us going to the papers and TV today BBC South eats .I hope the law changes so families like us and yours are safe from people like this Waynebeavill
  • Score: 8

12:43pm Fri 9 May 14

firemanste says...

this happened in torquay a few years ago with an italian student.the host family never got an apology either.in fact the host family were allocated less student than usual.this was ef as well and they used to just place students anywhere they could as they were short of host families
this happened in torquay a few years ago with an italian student.the host family never got an apology either.in fact the host family were allocated less student than usual.this was ef as well and they used to just place students anywhere they could as they were short of host families firemanste
  • Score: 0

3:04pm Fri 9 May 14

Skidrow says...

Waynebeavill wrote:
Skidrow wrote:
Goldenwight wrote: So, lets get this straight. This guy takes in a (PAYING) lodger who later turns out to be committing criminal acts. Which are, incidentally, nothing to do with either his lodgings or the language school who have merely acted to introduce him to his landlord. There is nothing in the story to suggest or imply that they had undertaken any checks nor had they been asked to. So presumably had he placed an ad in the Argus, or seen a notice in a newsagents window for this (PAYING) lodger he would be asking the Argus or the newsagents to apologise for what is, at the end of the day, his own lack of due diligence for failing to check someone out before he let them into his home. Personally I would NEVER take in a lodger without obtaining references from their bank, previous landlord, and a personal reference. Perhaps this is why I have never had any problems with them.
That the language school don't run any checks when they introduce lodgers to unsuspecting host families is where they fall down on their duty of care. By introducing (or allocating) they are vouching for their client, the lodger. Now one has turned out to be an active practising paedophile, perhaps EF can give an assurance that they will check out at a cost of £1.50 each lodger in future? Host families mighty be a little wary if they don't... Goldenwight do you really and truly get 3 references before taking a short term language student? How would any of the refernces you specify have eliminated this paedo as a potential tlodger of yours?
Maybe you should read this properly he was not a lodger but a student sent to us from an international to host as a family sounds to me you agree with his actions .??
Ok, whats the difference between a lodger living in your home and a 32 year old mature student living in your home? In what way does anything I have said even remotely indicate I agree with his actions? Do be careful with accusations like that.
[quote][p][bold]Waynebeavill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Skidrow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: So, lets get this straight. This guy takes in a (PAYING) lodger who later turns out to be committing criminal acts. Which are, incidentally, nothing to do with either his lodgings or the language school who have merely acted to introduce him to his landlord. There is nothing in the story to suggest or imply that they [language school] had undertaken any checks nor had they been asked to. So presumably had he placed an ad in the Argus, or seen a notice in a newsagents window for this (PAYING) lodger he would be asking the Argus or the newsagents to apologise for what is, at the end of the day, his own lack of due diligence for failing to check someone out before he let them into his home. Personally I would NEVER take in a lodger without obtaining references from their bank, previous landlord, and a personal reference. Perhaps this is why I have never had any problems with them.[/p][/quote]That the language school don't run any checks when they introduce lodgers to unsuspecting host families is where they fall down on their duty of care. By introducing (or allocating) they are vouching for their client, the lodger. Now one has turned out to be an active practising paedophile, perhaps EF can give an assurance that they will check out at a cost of £1.50 each lodger in future? Host families mighty be a little wary if they don't... Goldenwight do you really and truly get 3 references before taking a short term language student? How would any of the refernces you specify have eliminated this paedo as a potential tlodger of yours?[/p][/quote]Maybe you should read this properly he was not a lodger but a student sent to us from an international to host as a family sounds to me you agree with his actions .??[/p][/quote]Ok, whats the difference between a lodger living in your home and a 32 year old mature student living in your home? In what way does anything I have said even remotely indicate I agree with his actions? Do be careful with accusations like that. Skidrow
  • Score: 2

4:53pm Fri 9 May 14

truescouser says...

I think most people are over-looking the fact that there are already about 50,000 (estimated) people who are either paedophiles or look at indecent images of children - already IN this country. that is - BRITISH nationals.

nice to see the UKIP loonies using this to make a party political point - not that I have any respect for the others, either. they only want to be part of the gravy train that is politics - no principles, just lining their own pockets at the expense of the ordinary, honest people.

feel sorry for the couple and their children but this is what you get when people cut corners on checks, and do it for the - MONEYYYYYYYYYY !

so, maybe we can go back to a time when regulations are in place and also are acted upon for the safety of the general public.

then again - maybe we can deregulate more and our society becomes more and more like the wild west of old - where the law is weak and the most aggressive flourish.

just a thought.
I think most people are over-looking the fact that there are already about 50,000 (estimated) people who are either paedophiles or look at indecent images of children - already IN this country. that is - BRITISH nationals. nice to see the UKIP loonies using this to make a party political point - not that I have any respect for the others, either. they only want to be part of the gravy train that is politics - no principles, just lining their own pockets at the expense of the ordinary, honest people. feel sorry for the couple and their children but this is what you get when people cut corners on checks, and do it for the - MONEYYYYYYYYYY ! so, maybe we can go back to a time when regulations are in place and also are acted upon for the safety of the general public. then again - maybe we can deregulate more and our society becomes more and more like the wild west of old - where the law is weak and the most aggressive flourish. just a thought. truescouser
  • Score: 1

6:06pm Fri 9 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

truescouser wrote:
I think most people are over-looking the fact that there are already about 50,000 (estimated) people who are either paedophiles or look at indecent images of children - already IN this country. that is - BRITISH nationals.

nice to see the UKIP loonies using this to make a party political point - not that I have any respect for the others, either. they only want to be part of the gravy train that is politics - no principles, just lining their own pockets at the expense of the ordinary, honest people.

feel sorry for the couple and their children but this is what you get when people cut corners on checks, and do it for the - MONEYYYYYYYYYY !

so, maybe we can go back to a time when regulations are in place and also are acted upon for the safety of the general public.

then again - maybe we can deregulate more and our society becomes more and more like the wild west of old - where the law is weak and the most aggressive flourish.

just a thought.
So, you want people checked out but you get upset at UKIP for wishing to re-instate border controls which would filter ALL comers to these shores?

You should join the MRL Party.....you'd fit straight in!
[quote][p][bold]truescouser[/bold] wrote: I think most people are over-looking the fact that there are already about 50,000 (estimated) people who are either paedophiles or look at indecent images of children - already IN this country. that is - BRITISH nationals. nice to see the UKIP loonies using this to make a party political point - not that I have any respect for the others, either. they only want to be part of the gravy train that is politics - no principles, just lining their own pockets at the expense of the ordinary, honest people. feel sorry for the couple and their children but this is what you get when people cut corners on checks, and do it for the - MONEYYYYYYYYYY ! so, maybe we can go back to a time when regulations are in place and also are acted upon for the safety of the general public. then again - maybe we can deregulate more and our society becomes more and more like the wild west of old - where the law is weak and the most aggressive flourish. just a thought.[/p][/quote]So, you want people checked out but you get upset at UKIP for wishing to re-instate border controls which would filter ALL comers to these shores? You should join the MRL Party.....you'd fit straight in! ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

12:45am Sat 10 May 14

We're up here says...

We've had language students from three different language schools over the last few years and we've never had a problem with any of them. This has really made me question whether or not we'll be doing it again this summer. We have an eleven year old daughter who has loved their company (never left alone with any of them though, and no photos of her unless it's a family one) but it has made me think hard about who these students actually are. There is no time to do checks yourself as you only get a few days' notice (sometimes it's 24hrs!) and I did naively presume that students with a sex offender's conviction would be flagged up somehow, but now I read that this is not the case. No, I don't think we'll be doing it again.
We've had language students from three different language schools over the last few years and we've never had a problem with any of them. This has really made me question whether or not we'll be doing it again this summer. We have an eleven year old daughter who has loved their company (never left alone with any of them though, and no photos of her unless it's a family one) but it has made me think hard about who these students actually are. There is no time to do checks yourself as you only get a few days' notice (sometimes it's 24hrs!) and I did naively presume that students with a sex offender's conviction would be flagged up somehow, but now I read that this is not the case. No, I don't think we'll be doing it again. We're up here
  • Score: 8

2:24am Sun 11 May 14

Mr chock says...

Fairfax Aches wrote:
This guy was a foreign immigrant. I rest my case.
wow he was an immigrant ? wow and he was using some "host families computer " .. and his about 32 years old .. FIRST question why did the family let him use their computer and second >> Mr Beavill, who has to have regular criminal record checks (CRB)
[quote][p][bold]Fairfax Aches[/bold] wrote: This guy was a foreign immigrant. I rest my case.[/p][/quote]wow he was an immigrant ? wow and he was using some "host families computer " .. and his about 32 years old .. FIRST question why did the family let him use their computer and second >> Mr Beavill, who has to have regular criminal record checks (CRB) Mr chock
  • Score: -1

12:13pm Sun 11 May 14

Waynebeavill says...

Mr chock wrote:
Fairfax Aches wrote:
This guy was a foreign immigrant. I rest my case.
wow he was an immigrant ? wow and he was using some "host families computer " .. and his about 32 years old .. FIRST question why did the family let him use their computer and second >> Mr Beavill, who has to have regular criminal record checks (CRB)
First he used his own computer and as a host family EF do checks on all families that take foreign students once a year !!!!
[quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fairfax Aches[/bold] wrote: This guy was a foreign immigrant. I rest my case.[/p][/quote]wow he was an immigrant ? wow and he was using some "host families computer " .. and his about 32 years old .. FIRST question why did the family let him use their computer and second >> Mr Beavill, who has to have regular criminal record checks (CRB)[/p][/quote]First he used his own computer and as a host family EF do checks on all families that take foreign students once a year !!!! Waynebeavill
  • Score: 0

3:29pm Mon 19 May 14

Mr chock says...

Waynebeavill wrote:
Mr chock wrote:
Fairfax Aches wrote:
This guy was a foreign immigrant. I rest my case.
wow he was an immigrant ? wow and he was using some "host families computer " .. and his about 32 years old .. FIRST question why did the family let him use their computer and second >> Mr Beavill, who has to have regular criminal record checks (CRB)
First he used his own computer and as a host family EF do checks on all families that take foreign students once a year !!!!
thanks it is not a CRB check .. EF do checks on all families that take foreign students once a year !!!!
lets hope that the greens do actually any more coverage of meat free mondays
Brighton for the language students is a "hands on visit to looney green city.." let the grass verges grow and save the dandelions
http://www.theguardi
an.com/politics/2011
/aug/29/green-party-
100-days-brighton
[quote][p][bold]Waynebeavill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fairfax Aches[/bold] wrote: This guy was a foreign immigrant. I rest my case.[/p][/quote]wow he was an immigrant ? wow and he was using some "host families computer " .. and his about 32 years old .. FIRST question why did the family let him use their computer and second >> Mr Beavill, who has to have regular criminal record checks (CRB)[/p][/quote]First he used his own computer and as a host family EF do checks on all families that take foreign students once a year !!!![/p][/quote]thanks it is not a CRB check .. EF do checks on all families that take foreign students once a year !!!! lets hope that the greens do actually any more coverage of meat free mondays Brighton for the language students is a "hands on visit to looney green city.." let the grass verges grow and save the dandelions http://www.theguardi an.com/politics/2011 /aug/29/green-party- 100-days-brighton Mr chock
  • Score: 0

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