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Dozens gather at protest against massive housing development

The Argus: Dozens gather at protest against massive housing development Dozens gather at protest against massive housing development

DOZENS of residents protested against a housing development proposed for the edge of the South Downs National Park.

Residents from Woodingdean, Ovingdean and Rottingdean gathered outside Brighton Town Hall in Bartholomew Square yesterday ahead of a full council meeting where the proposals, and recent changes to planning powers, were discussed.

The Deans Preservation Group has been campaigning for months against the proposals for more than 100 homes.

Last night they campaigned under the banner ‘Save our Deans’ before presenting a petition to the city council signed by more than 1,600 people.

If approved the plans would see homes built on a 9.6-acre greenfield site.

Speaking against the proposals, Paul Redfern, from the Save Our Deans campaign, said: “The message here is to pre-empt what’s happening and to show the strength of opposition across the three villages to these proposals.”

Campaigner Joan Telfer said: “The point of this is to stop lovely green fields in a rural community turning into a suburb which will make three communities into one town.”

At the meeting yesterday, councillor Phelim Mac Cafferty said Government changes forced councils to act with the “presumption in favour of sustainable development” and had taken away the opportunity for local people to shape the development of the city.

He added: “The cornerstone of the planning system has been that decisions are taken locally by councillors accountable to local people, and with the input of residents.

“However the Tories’ deregulation of planning means that residents are being cut out of the process, protections for the environment are being reduced and we’re getting development by stealth.

“The Government’s insistence that every piece of land should be up for grabs is a cause for huge concern for us as councillors as much as it is for our communities.”

During the rally Conservative MP Simon Kirby publicly offered to assist Green group leader Jason Kitcat to come up with a “robust” city plan to help protect communities from developments they don’t want.

But Labour’s parliamentary candidate Nancy Platts said it was Mr Kirby’s Government that had created the situation in the first place and called on him to work to have the policy reversed.

Council leader Jason Kitcat said councillors and officers would consider the application carefully when it goes to council.

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8:11am Fri 9 May 14

rogerthefish says...

meanwhile the University builds blocks of apartments on the edge of the South Downs-aptly named little Manhattan by the students. This is pure nimbisem.
meanwhile the University builds blocks of apartments on the edge of the South Downs-aptly named little Manhattan by the students. This is pure nimbisem. rogerthefish
  • Score: 1

8:20am Fri 9 May 14

RottingdeanRant says...

rogerthefish wrote:
meanwhile the University builds blocks of apartments on the edge of the South Downs-aptly named little Manhattan by the students. This is pure nimbisem.
Agree fully that the university appears to be able to blight the downs with their constant awful development. However, I live in Rottingdean and have no fundamental objection to this housing development. Where I live was a green field in the not too distant past, as were most of the post 1900s properties in the ‘Deans’, so without development we could never have lived here. I am concerned about the extra traffic generated by this development especially around the Woodingdean, Falmer and Rottingdean junctions. Moreover, the sewage and drainage systems in this area already struggle to cope when there is heavy rain so some action will need to be taken to ameliorate this.
[quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: meanwhile the University builds blocks of apartments on the edge of the South Downs-aptly named little Manhattan by the students. This is pure nimbisem.[/p][/quote]Agree fully that the university appears to be able to blight the downs with their constant awful development. However, I live in Rottingdean and have no fundamental objection to this housing development. Where I live was a green field in the not too distant past, as were most of the post 1900s properties in the ‘Deans’, so without development we could never have lived here. I am concerned about the extra traffic generated by this development especially around the Woodingdean, Falmer and Rottingdean junctions. Moreover, the sewage and drainage systems in this area already struggle to cope when there is heavy rain so some action will need to be taken to ameliorate this. RottingdeanRant
  • Score: 16

8:29am Fri 9 May 14

HJarrs says...

The demonstrators need to make it clear to Weatherely and Kirby that they will not be voted in next election due to their support for planning deregulation. Kirby is desperately trying to pass the buck and it isn't working.
The demonstrators need to make it clear to Weatherely and Kirby that they will not be voted in next election due to their support for planning deregulation. Kirby is desperately trying to pass the buck and it isn't working. HJarrs
  • Score: -3

9:12am Fri 9 May 14

NickBtn says...

House and rental prices are going up and up. The key reason for this is a lack of supply of housing.

Brighton Council, particularly the greens but also their predecessors, have blocked or made unviable many applications for new houses. People have a right to a good place to live - if the council blocks attempts to create homes (including those it has blocked on brown field and office spaces) then people will look to green field and the government will take over if the council locally cannot do their role and help find people somewhere to live
House and rental prices are going up and up. The key reason for this is a lack of supply of housing. Brighton Council, particularly the greens but also their predecessors, have blocked or made unviable many applications for new houses. People have a right to a good place to live - if the council blocks attempts to create homes (including those it has blocked on brown field and office spaces) then people will look to green field and the government will take over if the council locally cannot do their role and help find people somewhere to live NickBtn
  • Score: 1

9:20am Fri 9 May 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Dear Protestors,
Many of you will be aware that since the Lewes Road in Brighton became a single lane in each direction, traffic has been diverting across Woodingdean/Falmer and the crossroads are now more congested than ever. With additional housing this congestion is likely to increase, particularly as there are plans for 500 parking spaces at Preston Barracks for student homes also off the Lewes Road.
Anyway, the traffic which now uses this alternative Woodingdean route then travels up or down Coombe Road, the residential area where I live, and Bear Road, Freshfield and Elm Grove. The council has this week installed a traffic flow monitor in Bear Road. This council has been particularly poor at being honest and accurate with data and governance around its data is extremely poor. When we complained about increased traffic in our community caused by the Lewes Road changes, the council installed a traffic flow monitor for two weeks during the school holidays and then claimed traffic flow had not increased. Incredulous and absolutely unacceptable. As for its answer to congestion created in Coombe Road. It turned part of this 20mph narrow road into a three lane junction where HGVs now using the route get stuck on a left turn up Coombe Road.
Perhaps you should widen your petition to a larger audience as the impact of this proposal is greater than perhaps you realise. I also suggest you raise money for the campaign in order to engage independent experts to fight your case as the council's data is not robust and they will railroad your objections.
The devil is in the detail and get a group onto the detail now because it will only take the developers to say the word Eco and put a draught excluder on the front door in each house and the Greens will be wetting themselves and supporting the project as another tick box for saving the planet.
Dear Protestors, Many of you will be aware that since the Lewes Road in Brighton became a single lane in each direction, traffic has been diverting across Woodingdean/Falmer and the crossroads are now more congested than ever. With additional housing this congestion is likely to increase, particularly as there are plans for 500 parking spaces at Preston Barracks for student homes also off the Lewes Road. Anyway, the traffic which now uses this alternative Woodingdean route then travels up or down Coombe Road, the residential area where I live, and Bear Road, Freshfield and Elm Grove. The council has this week installed a traffic flow monitor in Bear Road. This council has been particularly poor at being honest and accurate with data and governance around its data is extremely poor. When we complained about increased traffic in our community caused by the Lewes Road changes, the council installed a traffic flow monitor for two weeks during the school holidays and then claimed traffic flow had not increased. Incredulous and absolutely unacceptable. As for its answer to congestion created in Coombe Road. It turned part of this 20mph narrow road into a three lane junction where HGVs now using the route get stuck on a left turn up Coombe Road. Perhaps you should widen your petition to a larger audience as the impact of this proposal is greater than perhaps you realise. I also suggest you raise money for the campaign in order to engage independent experts to fight your case as the council's data is not robust and they will railroad your objections. The devil is in the detail and get a group onto the detail now because it will only take the developers to say the word Eco and put a draught excluder on the front door in each house and the Greens will be wetting themselves and supporting the project as another tick box for saving the planet. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 12

10:46am Fri 9 May 14

J Hill says...

The Meadow Vale field / site that is under threat is pretty much considered to be a keystone. If that falls and gets developed you will all see a domino effect and other green areas around Brighton will fall, quickly and readily as they become concreted over. For the bigger picture (and to prove that Meadow Vale is merely the tip of the iceberg) here's a link to Brighton & Hove's fringe assesment site map :- http://www.brighton-
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If Meadow Vale gets the green light it'll become a nightmare.
The Meadow Vale field / site that is under threat is pretty much considered to be a keystone. If that falls and gets developed you will all see a domino effect and other green areas around Brighton will fall, quickly and readily as they become concreted over. For the bigger picture (and to prove that Meadow Vale is merely the tip of the iceberg) here's a link to Brighton & Hove's fringe assesment site map :- http://www.brighton- hove.gov.uk/sites/br ighton-hove.gov.uk/f iles/TP002b%20Housin g%20Delivery%20Techn ical%20Paper%20Appen dix%202%20Urban%20Fr inge%20Sites%20Asses sment%20Maps%20Updat e%20(Sept%202013).pd f If Meadow Vale gets the green light it'll become a nightmare. J Hill
  • Score: 4

11:01am Fri 9 May 14

Saltdean Resident says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Dear Protestors,
Many of you will be aware that since the Lewes Road in Brighton became a single lane in each direction, traffic has been diverting across Woodingdean/Falmer and the crossroads are now more congested than ever. With additional housing this congestion is likely to increase, particularly as there are plans for 500 parking spaces at Preston Barracks for student homes also off the Lewes Road.
Anyway, the traffic which now uses this alternative Woodingdean route then travels up or down Coombe Road, the residential area where I live, and Bear Road, Freshfield and Elm Grove. The council has this week installed a traffic flow monitor in Bear Road. This council has been particularly poor at being honest and accurate with data and governance around its data is extremely poor. When we complained about increased traffic in our community caused by the Lewes Road changes, the council installed a traffic flow monitor for two weeks during the school holidays and then claimed traffic flow had not increased. Incredulous and absolutely unacceptable. As for its answer to congestion created in Coombe Road. It turned part of this 20mph narrow road into a three lane junction where HGVs now using the route get stuck on a left turn up Coombe Road.
Perhaps you should widen your petition to a larger audience as the impact of this proposal is greater than perhaps you realise. I also suggest you raise money for the campaign in order to engage independent experts to fight your case as the council's data is not robust and they will railroad your objections.
The devil is in the detail and get a group onto the detail now because it will only take the developers to say the word Eco and put a draught excluder on the front door in each house and the Greens will be wetting themselves and supporting the project as another tick box for saving the planet.
It was congested on Falmer Road before that.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Dear Protestors, Many of you will be aware that since the Lewes Road in Brighton became a single lane in each direction, traffic has been diverting across Woodingdean/Falmer and the crossroads are now more congested than ever. With additional housing this congestion is likely to increase, particularly as there are plans for 500 parking spaces at Preston Barracks for student homes also off the Lewes Road. Anyway, the traffic which now uses this alternative Woodingdean route then travels up or down Coombe Road, the residential area where I live, and Bear Road, Freshfield and Elm Grove. The council has this week installed a traffic flow monitor in Bear Road. This council has been particularly poor at being honest and accurate with data and governance around its data is extremely poor. When we complained about increased traffic in our community caused by the Lewes Road changes, the council installed a traffic flow monitor for two weeks during the school holidays and then claimed traffic flow had not increased. Incredulous and absolutely unacceptable. As for its answer to congestion created in Coombe Road. It turned part of this 20mph narrow road into a three lane junction where HGVs now using the route get stuck on a left turn up Coombe Road. Perhaps you should widen your petition to a larger audience as the impact of this proposal is greater than perhaps you realise. I also suggest you raise money for the campaign in order to engage independent experts to fight your case as the council's data is not robust and they will railroad your objections. The devil is in the detail and get a group onto the detail now because it will only take the developers to say the word Eco and put a draught excluder on the front door in each house and the Greens will be wetting themselves and supporting the project as another tick box for saving the planet.[/p][/quote]It was congested on Falmer Road before that. Saltdean Resident
  • Score: 4

12:56pm Fri 9 May 14

HJarrs says...

Saltdean Resident wrote:
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Dear Protestors,
Many of you will be aware that since the Lewes Road in Brighton became a single lane in each direction, traffic has been diverting across Woodingdean/Falmer and the crossroads are now more congested than ever. With additional housing this congestion is likely to increase, particularly as there are plans for 500 parking spaces at Preston Barracks for student homes also off the Lewes Road.
Anyway, the traffic which now uses this alternative Woodingdean route then travels up or down Coombe Road, the residential area where I live, and Bear Road, Freshfield and Elm Grove. The council has this week installed a traffic flow monitor in Bear Road. This council has been particularly poor at being honest and accurate with data and governance around its data is extremely poor. When we complained about increased traffic in our community caused by the Lewes Road changes, the council installed a traffic flow monitor for two weeks during the school holidays and then claimed traffic flow had not increased. Incredulous and absolutely unacceptable. As for its answer to congestion created in Coombe Road. It turned part of this 20mph narrow road into a three lane junction where HGVs now using the route get stuck on a left turn up Coombe Road.
Perhaps you should widen your petition to a larger audience as the impact of this proposal is greater than perhaps you realise. I also suggest you raise money for the campaign in order to engage independent experts to fight your case as the council's data is not robust and they will railroad your objections.
The devil is in the detail and get a group onto the detail now because it will only take the developers to say the word Eco and put a draught excluder on the front door in each house and the Greens will be wetting themselves and supporting the project as another tick box for saving the planet.
It was congested on Falmer Road before that.
And there is no proposed development in the city that is providing 500 parking spaces for student homes.
[quote][p][bold]Saltdean Resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Dear Protestors, Many of you will be aware that since the Lewes Road in Brighton became a single lane in each direction, traffic has been diverting across Woodingdean/Falmer and the crossroads are now more congested than ever. With additional housing this congestion is likely to increase, particularly as there are plans for 500 parking spaces at Preston Barracks for student homes also off the Lewes Road. Anyway, the traffic which now uses this alternative Woodingdean route then travels up or down Coombe Road, the residential area where I live, and Bear Road, Freshfield and Elm Grove. The council has this week installed a traffic flow monitor in Bear Road. This council has been particularly poor at being honest and accurate with data and governance around its data is extremely poor. When we complained about increased traffic in our community caused by the Lewes Road changes, the council installed a traffic flow monitor for two weeks during the school holidays and then claimed traffic flow had not increased. Incredulous and absolutely unacceptable. As for its answer to congestion created in Coombe Road. It turned part of this 20mph narrow road into a three lane junction where HGVs now using the route get stuck on a left turn up Coombe Road. Perhaps you should widen your petition to a larger audience as the impact of this proposal is greater than perhaps you realise. I also suggest you raise money for the campaign in order to engage independent experts to fight your case as the council's data is not robust and they will railroad your objections. The devil is in the detail and get a group onto the detail now because it will only take the developers to say the word Eco and put a draught excluder on the front door in each house and the Greens will be wetting themselves and supporting the project as another tick box for saving the planet.[/p][/quote]It was congested on Falmer Road before that.[/p][/quote]And there is no proposed development in the city that is providing 500 parking spaces for student homes. HJarrs
  • Score: 0

1:32pm Fri 9 May 14

Matt Grout says...

rogerthefish wrote:
meanwhile the University builds blocks of apartments on the edge of the South Downs-aptly named little Manhattan by the students. This is pure nimbisem.
You are wrong. look at J Hillls post. This is a citywide issue. All Urban fringe sights are now in danger of being overdeveloped. If pockets of dense housing with inadequate infrastructure are created it will put a strain on the entire city. Traffic accidents pollution and congestion will rise. There will not be enough school places or health and community services. This will affect the wellbeing, health and wealth of all city residents.
[quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: meanwhile the University builds blocks of apartments on the edge of the South Downs-aptly named little Manhattan by the students. This is pure nimbisem.[/p][/quote]You are wrong. look at J Hillls post. This is a citywide issue. All Urban fringe sights are now in danger of being overdeveloped. If pockets of dense housing with inadequate infrastructure are created it will put a strain on the entire city. Traffic accidents pollution and congestion will rise. There will not be enough school places or health and community services. This will affect the wellbeing, health and wealth of all city residents. Matt Grout
  • Score: 6

1:51pm Fri 9 May 14

Matt Grout says...

RottingdeanRant wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
meanwhile the University builds blocks of apartments on the edge of the South Downs-aptly named little Manhattan by the students. This is pure nimbisem.
Agree fully that the university appears to be able to blight the downs with their constant awful development. However, I live in Rottingdean and have no fundamental objection to this housing development. Where I live was a green field in the not too distant past, as were most of the post 1900s properties in the ‘Deans’, so without development we could never have lived here. I am concerned about the extra traffic generated by this development especially around the Woodingdean, Falmer and Rottingdean junctions. Moreover, the sewage and drainage systems in this area already struggle to cope when there is heavy rain so some action will need to be taken to ameliorate this.
Phase 1 of the development is 110 houses Phases 2 to 5 will bring the total to 315. the developer has a track record for squeezing large scale developments into small areas. see the developers plans : www.brightoncityplan
.co.uk/
Falmer road is already heavily congested at peak times. It cannot be widened at Rottingdean without demolishing buildings so congestion will get worse. This will deter tourists from visiting this area blighting the local tourist industry and cost local people and businesses time and money. You should ask The council what they intend to do about traffic, sewage and drainage.
[quote][p][bold]RottingdeanRant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: meanwhile the University builds blocks of apartments on the edge of the South Downs-aptly named little Manhattan by the students. This is pure nimbisem.[/p][/quote]Agree fully that the university appears to be able to blight the downs with their constant awful development. However, I live in Rottingdean and have no fundamental objection to this housing development. Where I live was a green field in the not too distant past, as were most of the post 1900s properties in the ‘Deans’, so without development we could never have lived here. I am concerned about the extra traffic generated by this development especially around the Woodingdean, Falmer and Rottingdean junctions. Moreover, the sewage and drainage systems in this area already struggle to cope when there is heavy rain so some action will need to be taken to ameliorate this.[/p][/quote]Phase 1 of the development is 110 houses Phases 2 to 5 will bring the total to 315. the developer has a track record for squeezing large scale developments into small areas. see the developers plans : www.brightoncityplan .co.uk/ Falmer road is already heavily congested at peak times. It cannot be widened at Rottingdean without demolishing buildings so congestion will get worse. This will deter tourists from visiting this area blighting the local tourist industry and cost local people and businesses time and money. You should ask The council what they intend to do about traffic, sewage and drainage. Matt Grout
  • Score: 5

1:54pm Fri 9 May 14

Matt Grout says...

RottingdeanRant wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
meanwhile the University builds blocks of apartments on the edge of the South Downs-aptly named little Manhattan by the students. This is pure nimbisem.
Agree fully that the university appears to be able to blight the downs with their constant awful development. However, I live in Rottingdean and have no fundamental objection to this housing development. Where I live was a green field in the not too distant past, as were most of the post 1900s properties in the ‘Deans’, so without development we could never have lived here. I am concerned about the extra traffic generated by this development especially around the Woodingdean, Falmer and Rottingdean junctions. Moreover, the sewage and drainage systems in this area already struggle to cope when there is heavy rain so some action will need to be taken to ameliorate this.
Phase 1 of the development is 110 houses Phases 2 to 5 will bring the total to 315. the developer has a track record for squeezing large scale developments into small areas. see the developers plans : www.brightoncityplan
.co.uk/
Falmer road is already heavily congested at peak times. It cannot be widened at Rottingdean without demolishing buildings so congestion will get worse. This will deter tourists from visiting this area blighting the local tourist industry and cost local people and businesses time and money. You should ask The council what they intend to do about traffic, sewage and drainage.
[quote][p][bold]RottingdeanRant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: meanwhile the University builds blocks of apartments on the edge of the South Downs-aptly named little Manhattan by the students. This is pure nimbisem.[/p][/quote]Agree fully that the university appears to be able to blight the downs with their constant awful development. However, I live in Rottingdean and have no fundamental objection to this housing development. Where I live was a green field in the not too distant past, as were most of the post 1900s properties in the ‘Deans’, so without development we could never have lived here. I am concerned about the extra traffic generated by this development especially around the Woodingdean, Falmer and Rottingdean junctions. Moreover, the sewage and drainage systems in this area already struggle to cope when there is heavy rain so some action will need to be taken to ameliorate this.[/p][/quote]Phase 1 of the development is 110 houses Phases 2 to 5 will bring the total to 315. the developer has a track record for squeezing large scale developments into small areas. see the developers plans : www.brightoncityplan .co.uk/ Falmer road is already heavily congested at peak times. It cannot be widened at Rottingdean without demolishing buildings so congestion will get worse. This will deter tourists from visiting this area blighting the local tourist industry and cost local people and businesses time and money. You should ask The council what they intend to do about traffic, sewage and drainage. Matt Grout
  • Score: 1

1:54pm Fri 9 May 14

Matt Grout says...

RottingdeanRant wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
meanwhile the University builds blocks of apartments on the edge of the South Downs-aptly named little Manhattan by the students. This is pure nimbisem.
Agree fully that the university appears to be able to blight the downs with their constant awful development. However, I live in Rottingdean and have no fundamental objection to this housing development. Where I live was a green field in the not too distant past, as were most of the post 1900s properties in the ‘Deans’, so without development we could never have lived here. I am concerned about the extra traffic generated by this development especially around the Woodingdean, Falmer and Rottingdean junctions. Moreover, the sewage and drainage systems in this area already struggle to cope when there is heavy rain so some action will need to be taken to ameliorate this.
Phase 1 of the development is 110 houses Phases 2 to 5 will bring the total to 315. the developer has a track record for squeezing large scale developments into small areas. see the developers plans : www.brightoncityplan
.co.uk/
Falmer road is already heavily congested at peak times. It cannot be widened at Rottingdean without demolishing buildings so congestion will get worse. This will deter tourists from visiting this area blighting the local tourist industry and cost local people and businesses time and money. You should ask The council what they intend to do about traffic, sewage and drainage.
[quote][p][bold]RottingdeanRant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: meanwhile the University builds blocks of apartments on the edge of the South Downs-aptly named little Manhattan by the students. This is pure nimbisem.[/p][/quote]Agree fully that the university appears to be able to blight the downs with their constant awful development. However, I live in Rottingdean and have no fundamental objection to this housing development. Where I live was a green field in the not too distant past, as were most of the post 1900s properties in the ‘Deans’, so without development we could never have lived here. I am concerned about the extra traffic generated by this development especially around the Woodingdean, Falmer and Rottingdean junctions. Moreover, the sewage and drainage systems in this area already struggle to cope when there is heavy rain so some action will need to be taken to ameliorate this.[/p][/quote]Phase 1 of the development is 110 houses Phases 2 to 5 will bring the total to 315. the developer has a track record for squeezing large scale developments into small areas. see the developers plans : www.brightoncityplan .co.uk/ Falmer road is already heavily congested at peak times. It cannot be widened at Rottingdean without demolishing buildings so congestion will get worse. This will deter tourists from visiting this area blighting the local tourist industry and cost local people and businesses time and money. You should ask The council what they intend to do about traffic, sewage and drainage. Matt Grout
  • Score: 0

3:14pm Fri 9 May 14

HJarrs says...

Matt Grout wrote:
RottingdeanRant wrote:
rogerthefish wrote:
meanwhile the University builds blocks of apartments on the edge of the South Downs-aptly named little Manhattan by the students. This is pure nimbisem.
Agree fully that the university appears to be able to blight the downs with their constant awful development. However, I live in Rottingdean and have no fundamental objection to this housing development. Where I live was a green field in the not too distant past, as were most of the post 1900s properties in the ‘Deans’, so without development we could never have lived here. I am concerned about the extra traffic generated by this development especially around the Woodingdean, Falmer and Rottingdean junctions. Moreover, the sewage and drainage systems in this area already struggle to cope when there is heavy rain so some action will need to be taken to ameliorate this.
Phase 1 of the development is 110 houses Phases 2 to 5 will bring the total to 315. the developer has a track record for squeezing large scale developments into small areas. see the developers plans : www.brightoncityplan

.co.uk/
Falmer road is already heavily congested at peak times. It cannot be widened at Rottingdean without demolishing buildings so congestion will get worse. This will deter tourists from visiting this area blighting the local tourist industry and cost local people and businesses time and money. You should ask The council what they intend to do about traffic, sewage and drainage.
This is what happens when you vote in a party in the pockets of developers and the financial sector. The developments will likely be poor quality and inconsiderate as the primary purpose is to make as much money as possible.
[quote][p][bold]Matt Grout[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RottingdeanRant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: meanwhile the University builds blocks of apartments on the edge of the South Downs-aptly named little Manhattan by the students. This is pure nimbisem.[/p][/quote]Agree fully that the university appears to be able to blight the downs with their constant awful development. However, I live in Rottingdean and have no fundamental objection to this housing development. Where I live was a green field in the not too distant past, as were most of the post 1900s properties in the ‘Deans’, so without development we could never have lived here. I am concerned about the extra traffic generated by this development especially around the Woodingdean, Falmer and Rottingdean junctions. Moreover, the sewage and drainage systems in this area already struggle to cope when there is heavy rain so some action will need to be taken to ameliorate this.[/p][/quote]Phase 1 of the development is 110 houses Phases 2 to 5 will bring the total to 315. the developer has a track record for squeezing large scale developments into small areas. see the developers plans : www.brightoncityplan .co.uk/ Falmer road is already heavily congested at peak times. It cannot be widened at Rottingdean without demolishing buildings so congestion will get worse. This will deter tourists from visiting this area blighting the local tourist industry and cost local people and businesses time and money. You should ask The council what they intend to do about traffic, sewage and drainage.[/p][/quote]This is what happens when you vote in a party in the pockets of developers and the financial sector. The developments will likely be poor quality and inconsiderate as the primary purpose is to make as much money as possible. HJarrs
  • Score: -1

4:23pm Fri 9 May 14

rolivan says...

Over the last 50 years The City has had most of its housing turned into Flats ,now that it has reached saturation point there is nowhere else except small pockets of infill sites so unless the Council say no more which they won't because just this development will bring in approx £600,000 in council rates alone and they need the income for more Cycle Lanes.
Over the last 50 years The City has had most of its housing turned into Flats ,now that it has reached saturation point there is nowhere else except small pockets of infill sites so unless the Council say no more which they won't because just this development will bring in approx £600,000 in council rates alone and they need the income for more Cycle Lanes. rolivan
  • Score: -1

8:25pm Fri 9 May 14

Brighton Living says...

And everybody in the picture looks like that all privately rent... NOT !!

All own there own homes and wouldn't have a clue what is like not to have a place to call home.
And everybody in the picture looks like that all privately rent... NOT !! All own there own homes and wouldn't have a clue what is like not to have a place to call home. Brighton Living
  • Score: 0

9:02pm Fri 9 May 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Stop blaming other parties HJarrs. Your Green Party has been in power for four years and every target the council is meant to meet has been failed from recycling to collection of council tax.
You know that 500 parking spaces are planned for Preston Barracks and this was announced in this newspaper weeks after the Green Party held a party in Wild Park to celebrate the opening of the Lewes Road scheme. Anyone can trawl the archive for the information. You even stated that you could not object to the parking spaces when I suggested the Greens were offering free parking for students in return for votes. That really rattled your cage.
Stop lying or trolling or whatever it is your objective is on this site. People need accurate and fair information not party activists like you who have belonged to the Labour and Green Party because you cannot make your mind up where you sit, trying to mislead people.
Thank goodness for the internet so people like these protestors can do their own research instead of trusting people like you who are party members.
Please, research the council planning site and the Argus archive for information.
For info, there are also traffic flow monitors in Lewes road, Freshfield road and bear road and also roads up to Falmer and the unis.
Stop blaming other parties HJarrs. Your Green Party has been in power for four years and every target the council is meant to meet has been failed from recycling to collection of council tax. You know that 500 parking spaces are planned for Preston Barracks and this was announced in this newspaper weeks after the Green Party held a party in Wild Park to celebrate the opening of the Lewes Road scheme. Anyone can trawl the archive for the information. You even stated that you could not object to the parking spaces when I suggested the Greens were offering free parking for students in return for votes. That really rattled your cage. Stop lying or trolling or whatever it is your objective is on this site. People need accurate and fair information not party activists like you who have belonged to the Labour and Green Party because you cannot make your mind up where you sit, trying to mislead people. Thank goodness for the internet so people like these protestors can do their own research instead of trusting people like you who are party members. Please, research the council planning site and the Argus archive for information. For info, there are also traffic flow monitors in Lewes road, Freshfield road and bear road and also roads up to Falmer and the unis. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: -1

10:17pm Fri 9 May 14

HJarrs says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Stop blaming other parties HJarrs. Your Green Party has been in power for four years and every target the council is meant to meet has been failed from recycling to collection of council tax.
You know that 500 parking spaces are planned for Preston Barracks and this was announced in this newspaper weeks after the Green Party held a party in Wild Park to celebrate the opening of the Lewes Road scheme. Anyone can trawl the archive for the information. You even stated that you could not object to the parking spaces when I suggested the Greens were offering free parking for students in return for votes. That really rattled your cage.
Stop lying or trolling or whatever it is your objective is on this site. People need accurate and fair information not party activists like you who have belonged to the Labour and Green Party because you cannot make your mind up where you sit, trying to mislead people.
Thank goodness for the internet so people like these protestors can do their own research instead of trusting people like you who are party members.
Please, research the council planning site and the Argus archive for information.
For info, there are also traffic flow monitors in Lewes road, Freshfield road and bear road and also roads up to Falmer and the unis.
So you DO know there are 500 spaces for the WHOLE Preston Barracks development then and not 500 spaces for students. I am glad we have cleared that one up. I wouldn't want to accuse you of misrepresenting.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Stop blaming other parties HJarrs. Your Green Party has been in power for four years and every target the council is meant to meet has been failed from recycling to collection of council tax. You know that 500 parking spaces are planned for Preston Barracks and this was announced in this newspaper weeks after the Green Party held a party in Wild Park to celebrate the opening of the Lewes Road scheme. Anyone can trawl the archive for the information. You even stated that you could not object to the parking spaces when I suggested the Greens were offering free parking for students in return for votes. That really rattled your cage. Stop lying or trolling or whatever it is your objective is on this site. People need accurate and fair information not party activists like you who have belonged to the Labour and Green Party because you cannot make your mind up where you sit, trying to mislead people. Thank goodness for the internet so people like these protestors can do their own research instead of trusting people like you who are party members. Please, research the council planning site and the Argus archive for information. For info, there are also traffic flow monitors in Lewes road, Freshfield road and bear road and also roads up to Falmer and the unis.[/p][/quote]So you DO know there are 500 spaces for the WHOLE Preston Barracks development then and not 500 spaces for students. I am glad we have cleared that one up. I wouldn't want to accuse you of misrepresenting. HJarrs
  • Score: 2

9:42am Sat 10 May 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

You were being naughty though weren't you, leaving out the fact that 500 spaces were being created on a site when your party is hammering local motorists with permit schemes etc and most of the 500 are going to students. Who in their right mind invites students into towns with cars? You only admit this when I suggest people look at the archive on this site to look for themselves.
Your party painted over an existing bike lane, claimed success and had a PR party, and then we discovered there was a 40 per cent increase in taxi use along the route and vehicles using other routes and weeks later a massive development with 500 cars.
Your party is so hopeless it has driven recycling rates to the lowest level ever, it's core business. Hopeless.
You were being naughty though weren't you, leaving out the fact that 500 spaces were being created on a site when your party is hammering local motorists with permit schemes etc and most of the 500 are going to students. Who in their right mind invites students into towns with cars? You only admit this when I suggest people look at the archive on this site to look for themselves. Your party painted over an existing bike lane, claimed success and had a PR party, and then we discovered there was a 40 per cent increase in taxi use along the route and vehicles using other routes and weeks later a massive development with 500 cars. Your party is so hopeless it has driven recycling rates to the lowest level ever, it's core business. Hopeless. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: -1

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