Battle to save historic Rose Hill Tavern boosted

Battle to save historic pub boosted

Battle to save historic pub boosted

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THE battle to save a historic pub has received a boost after it was granted special status.

The Rose Hill Tavern in Rose Hill Terrace, Brighton, has been recognised as an asset of community value by Brighton and Hove City Council.

The status means that if the owner wishes to sell or grant a long lease of the property within five years of listing, the owner must notify the council first and wait a minimum of six weeks while the intended sale is publicised to any community groups who may want to bid for the property.

Should an expression of interest be made during that deadline, the owner must wait a full six months to allow any bidding groups to put forward a bid.

Even if a community bid is forthcoming, the owner is still free to choose who they sell to.

The pub closed after 144 years on Sunday and owner Enterprise Inns has already indicated its intention to sell the site to a property developer for £350,000.

For the latest on the campaign visit www.facebook.com/ savetherosehilltavern.

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9:03pm Tue 20 May 14

HJarrs says...

Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008.

We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in.

I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. I wish the campaigners well.
Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008. We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in. I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. I wish the campaigners well. HJarrs
  • Score: 9

11:41pm Tue 20 May 14

whatevernext2013 says...

HJarrs wrote:
Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008.

We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in.

I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. I wish the campaigners well.
well you see that why this pub and pubs like it close ,using a pub only several times over the years ,do not keep them afloat as to expensive alcohol you can still get a pint of larger for 2,40 in saltdean ,pubs close from lack of profit plain and simple ,and on the subject of mega debt what do you call a council that loans 36 million for a steel one fingered salute to the people of brighton and hove.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008. We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in. I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. I wish the campaigners well.[/p][/quote]well you see that why this pub and pubs like it close ,using a pub only several times over the years ,do not keep them afloat as to expensive alcohol you can still get a pint of larger for 2,40 in saltdean ,pubs close from lack of profit plain and simple ,and on the subject of mega debt what do you call a council that loans 36 million for a steel one fingered salute to the people of brighton and hove. whatevernext2013
  • Score: -5

3:13am Wed 21 May 14

Mr chock says...

whatevernext2013 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008.

We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in.

I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. I wish the campaigners well.
well you see that why this pub and pubs like it close ,using a pub only several times over the years ,do not keep them afloat as to expensive alcohol you can still get a pint of larger for 2,40 in saltdean ,pubs close from lack of profit plain and simple ,and on the subject of mega debt what do you call a council that loans 36 million for a steel one fingered salute to the people of brighton and hove.
i am not really sure why everybody thought it was going to close as i see it it was part of a re development ? did that mean to all CLOSE it .. ?
[quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008. We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in. I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. I wish the campaigners well.[/p][/quote]well you see that why this pub and pubs like it close ,using a pub only several times over the years ,do not keep them afloat as to expensive alcohol you can still get a pint of larger for 2,40 in saltdean ,pubs close from lack of profit plain and simple ,and on the subject of mega debt what do you call a council that loans 36 million for a steel one fingered salute to the people of brighton and hove.[/p][/quote]i am not really sure why everybody thought it was going to close as i see it it was part of a re development ? did that mean to all CLOSE it .. ? Mr chock
  • Score: -6

6:28am Wed 21 May 14

HJarrs says...

whatevernext2013 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008.

We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in.

I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. I wish the campaigners well.
well you see that why this pub and pubs like it close ,using a pub only several times over the years ,do not keep them afloat as to expensive alcohol you can still get a pint of larger for 2,40 in saltdean ,pubs close from lack of profit plain and simple ,and on the subject of mega debt what do you call a council that loans 36 million for a steel one fingered salute to the people of brighton and hove.
Pubs may indeed close because of lack of profit. But if I have paid down the building cost to zero, which was the case for most pubs before takeover, it is far easier to make profit than paying 10% or more per annum for the cost of my own takeover.
[quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008. We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in. I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. I wish the campaigners well.[/p][/quote]well you see that why this pub and pubs like it close ,using a pub only several times over the years ,do not keep them afloat as to expensive alcohol you can still get a pint of larger for 2,40 in saltdean ,pubs close from lack of profit plain and simple ,and on the subject of mega debt what do you call a council that loans 36 million for a steel one fingered salute to the people of brighton and hove.[/p][/quote]Pubs may indeed close because of lack of profit. But if I have paid down the building cost to zero, which was the case for most pubs before takeover, it is far easier to make profit than paying 10% or more per annum for the cost of my own takeover. HJarrs
  • Score: 2

1:06pm Wed 21 May 14

whatevernext2013 says...

HJarrs wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008.

We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in.

I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. I wish the campaigners well.
well you see that why this pub and pubs like it close ,using a pub only several times over the years ,do not keep them afloat as to expensive alcohol you can still get a pint of larger for 2,40 in saltdean ,pubs close from lack of profit plain and simple ,and on the subject of mega debt what do you call a council that loans 36 million for a steel one fingered salute to the people of brighton and hove.
Pubs may indeed close because of lack of profit. But if I have paid down the building cost to zero, which was the case for most pubs before takeover, it is far easier to make profit than paying 10% or more per annum for the cost of my own takeover.
as always you show you know as little about the costs involved in running a public house as the greens now about running this once great city
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008. We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in. I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. I wish the campaigners well.[/p][/quote]well you see that why this pub and pubs like it close ,using a pub only several times over the years ,do not keep them afloat as to expensive alcohol you can still get a pint of larger for 2,40 in saltdean ,pubs close from lack of profit plain and simple ,and on the subject of mega debt what do you call a council that loans 36 million for a steel one fingered salute to the people of brighton and hove.[/p][/quote]Pubs may indeed close because of lack of profit. But if I have paid down the building cost to zero, which was the case for most pubs before takeover, it is far easier to make profit than paying 10% or more per annum for the cost of my own takeover.[/p][/quote]as always you show you know as little about the costs involved in running a public house as the greens now about running this once great city whatevernext2013
  • Score: -3

1:40pm Wed 21 May 14

Man of steel says...

whatevernext2013 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008.

We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in.

I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. I wish the campaigners well.
well you see that why this pub and pubs like it close ,using a pub only several times over the years ,do not keep them afloat as to expensive alcohol you can still get a pint of larger for 2,40 in saltdean ,pubs close from lack of profit plain and simple ,and on the subject of mega debt what do you call a council that loans 36 million for a steel one fingered salute to the people of brighton and hove.
I'm with H Jarrs on this, I also used the Rosehill on infrequent occasions over the years, I also used many other pubs in Brighton on infrequent occasions, there used to be far too many interesting and decent pubs in Brighton to use just one to the exclusion of all others, sadly this is no longer true, as they all seem too much of a muchmess, and far too expensive now to use.
I no longer drink in Brighton, preferring to save to money I would have spent, and using it on holidays in the Algarve, or southern Spain, where very good local brews can be had for 1.5 euro, whilst sitting out in the glorious sunshine.
[quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008. We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in. I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. I wish the campaigners well.[/p][/quote]well you see that why this pub and pubs like it close ,using a pub only several times over the years ,do not keep them afloat as to expensive alcohol you can still get a pint of larger for 2,40 in saltdean ,pubs close from lack of profit plain and simple ,and on the subject of mega debt what do you call a council that loans 36 million for a steel one fingered salute to the people of brighton and hove.[/p][/quote]I'm with H Jarrs on this, I also used the Rosehill on infrequent occasions over the years, I also used many other pubs in Brighton on infrequent occasions, there used to be far too many interesting and decent pubs in Brighton to use just one to the exclusion of all others, sadly this is no longer true, as they all seem too much of a muchmess, and far too expensive now to use. I no longer drink in Brighton, preferring to save to money I would have spent, and using it on holidays in the Algarve, or southern Spain, where very good local brews can be had for 1.5 euro, whilst sitting out in the glorious sunshine. Man of steel
  • Score: 6

9:28pm Wed 21 May 14

jefferias says...

the rosehill was doing ok!!!!! it was enterprise who cashed in on the sale of it.....i had drank here for the past few years and enterprise were just making it impossible for stacey and angie (the previous landlords) but racheal was doing well in putting her own touches into the pub and then enterprise fecked her over....very sad!!!!!!!
the rosehill was doing ok!!!!! it was enterprise who cashed in on the sale of it.....i had drank here for the past few years and enterprise were just making it impossible for stacey and angie (the previous landlords) but racheal was doing well in putting her own touches into the pub and then enterprise fecked her over....very sad!!!!!!! jefferias
  • Score: 2

2:07am Thu 22 May 14

jay316 says...

jefferias wrote:
the rosehill was doing ok!!!!! it was enterprise who cashed in on the sale of it.....i had drank here for the past few years and enterprise were just making it impossible for stacey and angie (the previous landlords) but racheal was doing well in putting her own touches into the pub and then enterprise fecked her over....very sad!!!!!!!
With the community asset status being granted this could come and hopefully bite them in the A$$
[quote][p][bold]jefferias[/bold] wrote: the rosehill was doing ok!!!!! it was enterprise who cashed in on the sale of it.....i had drank here for the past few years and enterprise were just making it impossible for stacey and angie (the previous landlords) but racheal was doing well in putting her own touches into the pub and then enterprise fecked her over....very sad!!!!!!![/p][/quote]With the community asset status being granted this could come and hopefully bite them in the A$$ jay316
  • Score: 1

3:00pm Thu 22 May 14

Mr chock says...

Man of steel wrote:
whatevernext2013 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008.

We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in.

I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. I wish the campaigners well.
well you see that why this pub and pubs like it close ,using a pub only several times over the years ,do not keep them afloat as to expensive alcohol you can still get a pint of larger for 2,40 in saltdean ,pubs close from lack of profit plain and simple ,and on the subject of mega debt what do you call a council that loans 36 million for a steel one fingered salute to the people of brighton and hove.
I'm with H Jarrs on this, I also used the Rosehill on infrequent occasions over the years, I also used many other pubs in Brighton on infrequent occasions, there used to be far too many interesting and decent pubs in Brighton to use just one to the exclusion of all others, sadly this is no longer true, as they all seem too much of a muchmess, and far too expensive now to use.
I no longer drink in Brighton, preferring to save to money I would have spent, and using it on holidays in the Algarve, or southern Spain, where very good local brews can be had for 1.5 euro, whilst sitting out in the glorious sunshine.
nice idea a trip to the Algarve .. maybe take some time to ask the Police why they did so little to investigate the missing madeleine mccann apparently they did not even interview the part time cleaning staff ..
i am off to vote now can you guess who ..UKIP are where in the european election ?
[quote][p][bold]Man of steel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Enterprise inns and Punch Taverns leveraged vast amounts of debt against stable pub revenue to make further acquisitions and mega wages for its management in the model that lead to financial meltdown in 2008. We are all now paying the price through expensive alcohol and the closure of pubs as these companies cash in. I will miss the Rose Hill Tavern, I have been there several times over the years. A special place. I wish the campaigners well.[/p][/quote]well you see that why this pub and pubs like it close ,using a pub only several times over the years ,do not keep them afloat as to expensive alcohol you can still get a pint of larger for 2,40 in saltdean ,pubs close from lack of profit plain and simple ,and on the subject of mega debt what do you call a council that loans 36 million for a steel one fingered salute to the people of brighton and hove.[/p][/quote]I'm with H Jarrs on this, I also used the Rosehill on infrequent occasions over the years, I also used many other pubs in Brighton on infrequent occasions, there used to be far too many interesting and decent pubs in Brighton to use just one to the exclusion of all others, sadly this is no longer true, as they all seem too much of a muchmess, and far too expensive now to use. I no longer drink in Brighton, preferring to save to money I would have spent, and using it on holidays in the Algarve, or southern Spain, where very good local brews can be had for 1.5 euro, whilst sitting out in the glorious sunshine.[/p][/quote]nice idea a trip to the Algarve .. maybe take some time to ask the Police why they did so little to investigate the missing madeleine mccann apparently they did not even interview the part time cleaning staff .. i am off to vote now can you guess who ..UKIP are where in the european election ? Mr chock
  • Score: -1

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