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Pride street party to be ticketed this year

The Argus: Pride street party set for new wristband scheme Pride street party set for new wristband scheme

Pride's legendary street party is set to be a ticketed event for the first time in its history.

Festival bosses will take control of the St James' street party this year and plan to introduce a wristband system.

Last year it was estimated that 30,000 people flocked to the enclosed confines of St James' Street for the Gay Village Party and organisers say the new system will mean a smaller, more manageable and safer gathering.

It could mean bars and shops will only sell alcohol to those with wristbands while access to St James' Street and Marine Parade will be restricted from 4pm on Saturday August 2.

Pride director Paul Kemp is urging supermarkets in the area, who traditionally make tens of thousands of pounds from sales during the Pride weekend, to sign up to the scheme and contribute to the costs of marshalling it.

The wristbands would cost £5 for both the Saturday and Sunday with £1 from sales going to the Rainbow Fund and covering additional expenses of security and toilet facilities.

Partygoers would not be allowed to bring alcohol or glass into the village party.

The one-year trial, which would be managed by Brighton Pride Community Interest Company and is currently subject to a consultation, will see The Pride Village Party held from 6pm on Saturday and between 2pm and 8pm on Sunday.

Residents, business and workers in the area would receive free wristbands for the weekend.

With the added responsibility of the village party to organise, Pride Brighton and Hove have shelved plans for additional events in Preston Park scheduled for the Friday and Sunday this year.

Mr Kemp said he hoped that by controlling partygoers it would lead to a similar reduction in trouble as the ticketing of Preston Park which saw a 50% drop in medial and safety issues last year.

He added: “Traditionally, the Village Party has not been organised by Pride.

“However, after safety concerns that could ultimately jeopardise the future of the Village Party, Pride has agreed to work in partnership with the city council and partners to reclaim the Village Party for our community and to help ensure we have a safer and controlled event for visitors to Pride and our community to enjoy.

“We know there will be a backlash and we know this is controversial but we need to resolve the street party issue.”

Councillor Geoffrey Bowden, chair of Brighton and Hove City Council's economic development and culture committee, said over the years the street party had become “more problematic” with “uncontrolled access and irresponsible attitudes to alcohol” turning the celebration into “a nightmare”.

He added: “If there isn't 100% support, particularly from the business community, the whole of the Pride Festival could be in jeopardy.”

A letter has been sent out to residents this week and a public meeting on the proposals will be held at Dorset Gardens Methodist Church next Wednesday from 7pm.

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8:07am Thu 22 May 14

hugo1977 says...

year after year the Village Pride Party has been a major succes.
Unfortunately every year Pride Commity has tried and make out it was thansk to their effort while doing everything to undermine the event.
The Street Party is the only remaining free event free of interference of the like of Paul Kemp and his colleagues from Pride Commitee and should stay that way.
They are only interested in lining their own pockets and every member of the community should stand up against the proposal.
they claim the whole pride event will be in jeopardy if this will not become a paid event however the only ereason the Street party has ever succeeded is by the sheer determination of the local bar owners.
Unfortunately that does not include the pride directors tbh
year after year the Village Pride Party has been a major succes. Unfortunately every year Pride Commity has tried and make out it was thansk to their effort while doing everything to undermine the event. The Street Party is the only remaining free event free of interference of the like of Paul Kemp and his colleagues from Pride Commitee and should stay that way. They are only interested in lining their own pockets and every member of the community should stand up against the proposal. they claim the whole pride event will be in jeopardy if this will not become a paid event however the only ereason the Street party has ever succeeded is by the sheer determination of the local bar owners. Unfortunately that does not include the pride directors tbh hugo1977
  • Score: 39

8:34am Thu 22 May 14

hoveguyactually says...

What is the legal situation regarding charging the public to enter a street belonging to the Brighton and Hove residents? This is a public street, not a private garden. What about shoppers in the area? Will they be charged entry to the area just to do their shopping? Meanwhile Preston Park becomes a no-go place for non payers during Pride weekend. There was also talk of doing the same with the Pavilion Gardens some time in the future. Hove lawns charge entry for the Food Fair. How long will it be before there is an entry charge to enter Brighton and Hove itself?
What is the legal situation regarding charging the public to enter a street belonging to the Brighton and Hove residents? This is a public street, not a private garden. What about shoppers in the area? Will they be charged entry to the area just to do their shopping? Meanwhile Preston Park becomes a no-go place for non payers during Pride weekend. There was also talk of doing the same with the Pavilion Gardens some time in the future. Hove lawns charge entry for the Food Fair. How long will it be before there is an entry charge to enter Brighton and Hove itself? hoveguyactually
  • Score: 56

9:30am Thu 22 May 14

afterovid says...

Why does this Pride committee raise everyone's anger by imposing tickets for what has always been a free street party with the additional annoyance of stating that 20% of it will go to charity. I'm sure most people would rather give to a charity of their choice, if at all, as most money given to charities is swallowed up in admin costs and only a tiny percentage of the money actually goes to the needy cause.......... It truly is sickening and I'd like to see this committee got rid of permanently.
Why does this Pride committee raise everyone's anger by imposing tickets for what has always been a free street party with the additional annoyance of stating that 20% of it will go to charity. I'm sure most people would rather give to a charity of their choice, if at all, as most money given to charities is swallowed up in admin costs and only a tiny percentage of the money actually goes to the needy cause.......... It truly is sickening and I'd like to see this committee got rid of permanently. afterovid
  • Score: 33

9:46am Thu 22 May 14

Lord_Byron says...

If we're going to start charging for parades, parties and marches.

Can we start by charging the EDL when they come to town because the amount of resource they use when they turn up is sickening.
If we're going to start charging for parades, parties and marches. Can we start by charging the EDL when they come to town because the amount of resource they use when they turn up is sickening. Lord_Byron
  • Score: 53

9:59am Thu 22 May 14

power_ranger says...

Why are these damned pride organisers now trying to lay claim over the street party organised by the businesses as an ALTERNATIVE to the park?
At this rate us residents are going to have no where left to go that's not a commercialised shadow of the spirit of pride.

I shall be strongly opposing this, and no doubt the street party organisers have been blackmailed and arm twisted into yet another money spinning exercise by Paul Kemp.

What an ****.
Why are these damned pride organisers now trying to lay claim over the street party organised by the businesses as an ALTERNATIVE to the park? At this rate us residents are going to have no where left to go that's not a commercialised shadow of the spirit of pride. I shall be strongly opposing this, and no doubt the street party organisers have been blackmailed and arm twisted into yet another money spinning exercise by Paul Kemp. What an ****. power_ranger
  • Score: 37

10:16am Thu 22 May 14

power_ranger says...

Do these deluded idiots think that people who turn up without a wrist band are just going to go back home?! All it's going to do is push the non-payers after it's sold out into the adjacent roads full of moving cars, families.. lets see how well that goes down with tens of thousands of people and a handful of coppers.

We'll all have a damned good party without you, Mr Kemp, and you're not invited.
Do these deluded idiots think that people who turn up without a wrist band are just going to go back home?! All it's going to do is push the non-payers after it's sold out into the adjacent roads full of moving cars, families.. lets see how well that goes down with tens of thousands of people and a handful of coppers. We'll all have a damned good party without you, Mr Kemp, and you're not invited. power_ranger
  • Score: 30

10:19am Thu 22 May 14

kemptown75 says...

The St. James Street Pride party is the only part of Brighton Pride that is still totally free & inclusive to everyone.
This is down to the hard work of the Bars & businesses that have supported the event over the years.
As far as I am aware this event has not been given support from the Paul Kemp fund (Rainbow fund) and has been opposed by the current pride committee since they took over running the business Pride 2 years ago.
In that time we have seen the park event ticket price double!
As a resident of St. James Street I am not aware of any escalation of problems caused by the street party in its current form.
The only reason I see for the Pride committee to be showing an interest in this year’s street party is to line their own pockets & take from the good businesses that operate in the street & have supported the FREE event over many years.
Keep it free & inclusive, this is what Pride is all about!
The St. James Street Pride party is the only part of Brighton Pride that is still totally free & inclusive to everyone. This is down to the hard work of the Bars & businesses that have supported the event over the years. As far as I am aware this event has not been given support from the Paul Kemp fund (Rainbow fund) and has been opposed by the current pride committee since they took over running the business Pride 2 years ago. In that time we have seen the park event ticket price double! As a resident of St. James Street I am not aware of any escalation of problems caused by the street party in its current form. The only reason I see for the Pride committee to be showing an interest in this year’s street party is to line their own pockets & take from the good businesses that operate in the street & have supported the FREE event over many years. Keep it free & inclusive, this is what Pride is all about! kemptown75
  • Score: 33

10:27am Thu 22 May 14

hugo1977 says...

kemptown75 wrote:
The St. James Street Pride party is the only part of Brighton Pride that is still totally free & inclusive to everyone.
This is down to the hard work of the Bars & businesses that have supported the event over the years.
As far as I am aware this event has not been given support from the Paul Kemp fund (Rainbow fund) and has been opposed by the current pride committee since they took over running the business Pride 2 years ago.
In that time we have seen the park event ticket price double!
As a resident of St. James Street I am not aware of any escalation of problems caused by the street party in its current form.
The only reason I see for the Pride committee to be showing an interest in this year’s street party is to line their own pockets & take from the good businesses that operate in the street & have supported the FREE event over many years.
Keep it free & inclusive, this is what Pride is all about!
Looks like they are closing down Madeira drive for the event, isn't that the location for girls on top and wild fruit events during pride? I could be wrong tho but it would be a coincidence if it was
[quote][p][bold]kemptown75[/bold] wrote: The St. James Street Pride party is the only part of Brighton Pride that is still totally free & inclusive to everyone. This is down to the hard work of the Bars & businesses that have supported the event over the years. As far as I am aware this event has not been given support from the Paul Kemp fund (Rainbow fund) and has been opposed by the current pride committee since they took over running the business Pride 2 years ago. In that time we have seen the park event ticket price double! As a resident of St. James Street I am not aware of any escalation of problems caused by the street party in its current form. The only reason I see for the Pride committee to be showing an interest in this year’s street party is to line their own pockets & take from the good businesses that operate in the street & have supported the FREE event over many years. Keep it free & inclusive, this is what Pride is all about![/p][/quote]Looks like they are closing down Madeira drive for the event, isn't that the location for girls on top and wild fruit events during pride? I could be wrong tho but it would be a coincidence if it was hugo1977
  • Score: 7

11:51am Thu 22 May 14

Gribbet says...

Like thousands of others, I'll just go to a non-ticketed street.
Like thousands of others, I'll just go to a non-ticketed street. Gribbet
  • Score: 25

11:59am Thu 22 May 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

What?! No way will I pay to go to the street party. What a stupid idea.
What?! No way will I pay to go to the street party. What a stupid idea. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 27

12:30pm Thu 22 May 14

jay316 says...

They are closing the Northern Lane on the road outside legends etc..

So somebody who doesn't live in area who wants to shopping in st. james street has to pay to enter the street..

Pride a charity or a commercial venture.!!! You Decide!
They are closing the Northern Lane on the road outside legends etc.. So somebody who doesn't live in area who wants to shopping in st. james street has to pay to enter the street.. Pride a charity or a commercial venture.!!! You Decide! jay316
  • Score: 19

12:59pm Thu 22 May 14

BlackRocker says...

For your future reference it is actually called St James's Street.
For your future reference it is actually called St James's Street. BlackRocker
  • Score: 0

1:05pm Thu 22 May 14

BlackRocker says...

BlackRocker wrote:
For your future reference it is actually called St James's Street.
P.S. Like the similarly named street in London, but there the similarity ends!
[quote][p][bold]BlackRocker[/bold] wrote: For your future reference it is actually called St James's Street.[/p][/quote]P.S. Like the similarly named street in London, but there the similarity ends! BlackRocker
  • Score: 2

1:27pm Thu 22 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"Can we start by charging the EDL when they come to town because the amount of resource they use when they turn up is sickening."

So you'd rather return to the early days, when patriots turned up on an ad hoc basis and the AF filth had difficulty locating them?

Good idea!

"Pride street party to be ticketed this year"

Only seriously stupid people would cram into a street for a party which is clearly over-crowded. I'm all for such people doing stupid things, and it's even funnier when they are paying to do so.
"Can we start by charging the EDL when they come to town because the amount of resource they use when they turn up is sickening." So you'd rather return to the early days, when patriots turned up on an ad hoc basis and the AF filth had difficulty locating them? Good idea! "Pride street party to be ticketed this year" Only seriously stupid people would cram into a street for a party which is clearly over-crowded. I'm all for such people doing stupid things, and it's even funnier when they are paying to do so. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -10

1:28pm Thu 22 May 14

Brumguy says...

Birmingham has been charging to enter Hurst Street( the Gay Village) for a while now. Personally I will do to Brighton what i do to Birmingham. Go elsewhere and boycott the commercialised Prides. Its an excuse to make money! If i want to support Pride for its original reasons then the smaller town Prides are much better. Oxford springs to mind as one of the better ones.
Birmingham has been charging to enter Hurst Street( the Gay Village) for a while now. Personally I will do to Brighton what i do to Birmingham. Go elsewhere and boycott the commercialised Prides. Its an excuse to make money! If i want to support Pride for its original reasons then the smaller town Prides are much better. Oxford springs to mind as one of the better ones. Brumguy
  • Score: 13

2:03pm Thu 22 May 14

Gribbet says...

Brumguy wrote:
Birmingham has been charging to enter Hurst Street( the Gay Village) for a while now. Personally I will do to Brighton what i do to Birmingham. Go elsewhere and boycott the commercialised Prides. Its an excuse to make money! If i want to support Pride for its original reasons then the smaller town Prides are much better. Oxford springs to mind as one of the better ones.
Oxford Pride... Sounds like the name of a beer
[quote][p][bold]Brumguy[/bold] wrote: Birmingham has been charging to enter Hurst Street( the Gay Village) for a while now. Personally I will do to Brighton what i do to Birmingham. Go elsewhere and boycott the commercialised Prides. Its an excuse to make money! If i want to support Pride for its original reasons then the smaller town Prides are much better. Oxford springs to mind as one of the better ones.[/p][/quote]Oxford Pride... Sounds like the name of a beer Gribbet
  • Score: 9

2:27pm Thu 22 May 14

Pheasant pluckers son says...

So the rot of commercialism has finally reached the free street party. They sneaked this in quick. Shame on them. The venues make an absolute fortune over the pride weekend. So where can the person go who isn't on a vast income go to enjoy the day? It's not just the minimal cost for the arm band it's the principal . Next year the cost will go up .
At present (or should that be in the past) pride goers had two choices, pay to go to the park or go to the free event at the street party. Now there is no choice. The well off will go to either both events or the park, the less fortunate will go to the steet party or no where. This Rot in the brighton pride must stop. The parade last year was just float after float of advertising. There was one pub in the whole parade, The Edge from Southampton ( I have seen the listings so it's a fact) see May edition of gscene page 6.
This will end with pride fizzling out with people loosing interested and feeling they are getting ripped off at every stage .
So the rot of commercialism has finally reached the free street party. They sneaked this in quick. Shame on them. The venues make an absolute fortune over the pride weekend. So where can the person go who isn't on a vast income go to enjoy the day? It's not just the minimal cost for the arm band it's the principal . Next year the cost will go up . At present (or should that be in the past) pride goers had two choices, pay to go to the park or go to the free event at the street party. Now there is no choice. The well off will go to either both events or the park, the less fortunate will go to the steet party or no where. This Rot in the brighton pride must stop. The parade last year was just float after float of advertising. There was one pub in the whole parade, The Edge from Southampton ( I have seen the listings so it's a fact) see May edition of gscene page 6. This will end with pride fizzling out with people loosing interested and feeling they are getting ripped off at every stage . Pheasant pluckers son
  • Score: 11

2:32pm Thu 22 May 14

Fyrebird says...

As much as I would like it to be free, the St James village party attracts gangs and the dregs of Brighton who normally stick to West Street making it feel an unsafe place to be. Plenty complained about how bad it was getting there last year and now the organisers have listened they are being moaned at for taking action. For Pride to exist it needs funds, needs to be safe and to be fun. Reducing the numbers and asking for what is a minimal cost will help it survive and make it more enjoyable. Pride organisers are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
As much as I would like it to be free, the St James village party attracts gangs and the dregs of Brighton who normally stick to West Street making it feel an unsafe place to be. Plenty complained about how bad it was getting there last year and now the organisers have listened they are being moaned at for taking action. For Pride to exist it needs funds, needs to be safe and to be fun. Reducing the numbers and asking for what is a minimal cost will help it survive and make it more enjoyable. Pride organisers are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Fyrebird
  • Score: -4

2:48pm Thu 22 May 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
"Can we start by charging the EDL when they come to town because the amount of resource they use when they turn up is sickening."

So you'd rather return to the early days, when patriots turned up on an ad hoc basis and the AF filth had difficulty locating them?

Good idea!

"Pride street party to be ticketed this year"

Only seriously stupid people would cram into a street for a party which is clearly over-crowded. I'm all for such people doing stupid things, and it's even funnier when they are paying to do so.
Never been have you? Only seriously stupid people comment on a newspaper in a place they don't even live. Maybe stick to reading the newspaper in your home town - Burgess Hell. Loads of fun going on there! Oh, hang on a minute...
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: "Can we start by charging the EDL when they come to town because the amount of resource they use when they turn up is sickening." So you'd rather return to the early days, when patriots turned up on an ad hoc basis and the AF filth had difficulty locating them? Good idea! "Pride street party to be ticketed this year" Only seriously stupid people would cram into a street for a party which is clearly over-crowded. I'm all for such people doing stupid things, and it's even funnier when they are paying to do so.[/p][/quote]Never been have you? Only seriously stupid people comment on a newspaper in a place they don't even live. Maybe stick to reading the newspaper in your home town - Burgess Hell. Loads of fun going on there! Oh, hang on a minute... thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 7

2:51pm Thu 22 May 14

hugo1977 says...

Fyrebird wrote:
As much as I would like it to be free, the St James village party attracts gangs and the dregs of Brighton who normally stick to West Street making it feel an unsafe place to be. Plenty complained about how bad it was getting there last year and now the organisers have listened they are being moaned at for taking action. For Pride to exist it needs funds, needs to be safe and to be fun. Reducing the numbers and asking for what is a minimal cost will help it survive and make it more enjoyable. Pride organisers are damned if they do and damned if they don't.
I can see you're point however the event should always be a free event as it always has been intended to be.
Beside that the street party was always separate of the Pride event and ran alongside each per.
If the event needs to be amended and improved it should be the residents and businesses of Kemptown taking on this task and pulling together.
NOT the directors of Pride who tbh are the only ones who will be making more money
[quote][p][bold]Fyrebird[/bold] wrote: As much as I would like it to be free, the St James village party attracts gangs and the dregs of Brighton who normally stick to West Street making it feel an unsafe place to be. Plenty complained about how bad it was getting there last year and now the organisers have listened they are being moaned at for taking action. For Pride to exist it needs funds, needs to be safe and to be fun. Reducing the numbers and asking for what is a minimal cost will help it survive and make it more enjoyable. Pride organisers are damned if they do and damned if they don't.[/p][/quote]I can see you're point however the event should always be a free event as it always has been intended to be. Beside that the street party was always separate of the Pride event and ran alongside each per. If the event needs to be amended and improved it should be the residents and businesses of Kemptown taking on this task and pulling together. NOT the directors of Pride who tbh are the only ones who will be making more money hugo1977
  • Score: 8

2:56pm Thu 22 May 14

Mr chock says...

this is a strange situation " to pay for entry to a street party .. NOT SURE ITS LEGAL " and the other thing why is it spreading out of the preston part / st James street and the sea front area . i know the police turn a blind eye to the sexual activities that carry on in public in the Dukes mound area "my last comment son that were removed BOo hoo Argus
. when the Brighton marathon started this event over a massive 26 miles was dealt with in a totally different way .. and also thoroughly clean up after after witnessing several dirty days after the Gay pride events i decided to vote UKIP .. wow how many times can i post that "vote UKIP line today before 10pm ..
this is a strange situation " to pay for entry to a street party .. NOT SURE ITS LEGAL " and the other thing why is it spreading out of the preston part / st James street and the sea front area . i know the police turn a blind eye to the sexual activities that carry on in public in the Dukes mound area "my last comment son that were removed BOo hoo Argus . when the Brighton marathon started this event over a massive 26 miles was dealt with in a totally different way .. and also thoroughly clean up after after witnessing several dirty days after the Gay pride events i decided to vote UKIP .. wow how many times can i post that "vote UKIP line today before 10pm .. Mr chock
  • Score: -11

4:02pm Thu 22 May 14

Old Ladys Gin says...

What a damned cheek to attempt to charge for what has always been seen as an alternative to the expensive and cliquey event in the park.
It is simple really to just move everything a few streets away and keep it free.
How on earth will they organise this pay for event in any case? Is a business going to turn down a customer who doesn't have a wristband? Of course they are not.
What a damned cheek to attempt to charge for what has always been seen as an alternative to the expensive and cliquey event in the park. It is simple really to just move everything a few streets away and keep it free. How on earth will they organise this pay for event in any case? Is a business going to turn down a customer who doesn't have a wristband? Of course they are not. Old Ladys Gin
  • Score: 8

4:09pm Thu 22 May 14

power_ranger says...

Mr chock wrote:
this is a strange situation " to pay for entry to a street party .. NOT SURE ITS LEGAL " and the other thing why is it spreading out of the preston part / st James street and the sea front area . i know the police turn a blind eye to the sexual activities that carry on in public in the Dukes mound area "my last comment son that were removed BOo hoo Argus
. when the Brighton marathon started this event over a massive 26 miles was dealt with in a totally different way .. and also thoroughly clean up after after witnessing several dirty days after the Gay pride events i decided to vote UKIP .. wow how many times can i post that "vote UKIP line today before 10pm ..
troll
[quote][p][bold]Mr chock[/bold] wrote: this is a strange situation " to pay for entry to a street party .. NOT SURE ITS LEGAL " and the other thing why is it spreading out of the preston part / st James street and the sea front area . i know the police turn a blind eye to the sexual activities that carry on in public in the Dukes mound area "my last comment son that were removed BOo hoo Argus . when the Brighton marathon started this event over a massive 26 miles was dealt with in a totally different way .. and also thoroughly clean up after after witnessing several dirty days after the Gay pride events i decided to vote UKIP .. wow how many times can i post that "vote UKIP line today before 10pm ..[/p][/quote]troll power_ranger
  • Score: 2

4:09pm Thu 22 May 14

mancuniannw says...

In Manchester its recently been revealed that the public has a right of way through the gay village during Manchester Pride without a ticket. So for the last 11 years the organisers have illegally obstructing the public including residents. Business people, councillors and others knew about this for years but kept quiet. It emerged via a Freedom of Information request to the head of events at Manchester City Council.
In Manchester its recently been revealed that the public has a right of way through the gay village during Manchester Pride without a ticket. So for the last 11 years the organisers have illegally obstructing the public including residents. Business people, councillors and others knew about this for years but kept quiet. It emerged via a Freedom of Information request to the head of events at Manchester City Council. mancuniannw
  • Score: 12

4:40pm Thu 22 May 14

PETE OF QUEENS PARK says...

Pheasant pluckers son wrote:
So the rot of commercialism has finally reached the free street party. They sneaked this in quick. Shame on them. The venues make an absolute fortune over the pride weekend. So where can the person go who isn't on a vast income go to enjoy the day? It's not just the minimal cost for the arm band it's the principal . Next year the cost will go up .
At present (or should that be in the past) pride goers had two choices, pay to go to the park or go to the free event at the street party. Now there is no choice. The well off will go to either both events or the park, the less fortunate will go to the steet party or no where. This Rot in the brighton pride must stop. The parade last year was just float after float of advertising. There was one pub in the whole parade, The Edge from Southampton ( I have seen the listings so it's a fact) see May edition of gscene page 6.
This will end with pride fizzling out with people loosing interested and feeling they are getting ripped off at every stage .
This will be the end of Pride HOORAY let's get back to the the Brighton to the way it used to be before all these abnormal freaks took over
[quote][p][bold]Pheasant pluckers son[/bold] wrote: So the rot of commercialism has finally reached the free street party. They sneaked this in quick. Shame on them. The venues make an absolute fortune over the pride weekend. So where can the person go who isn't on a vast income go to enjoy the day? It's not just the minimal cost for the arm band it's the principal . Next year the cost will go up . At present (or should that be in the past) pride goers had two choices, pay to go to the park or go to the free event at the street party. Now there is no choice. The well off will go to either both events or the park, the less fortunate will go to the steet party or no where. This Rot in the brighton pride must stop. The parade last year was just float after float of advertising. There was one pub in the whole parade, The Edge from Southampton ( I have seen the listings so it's a fact) see May edition of gscene page 6. This will end with pride fizzling out with people loosing interested and feeling they are getting ripped off at every stage .[/p][/quote]This will be the end of Pride HOORAY let's get back to the the Brighton to the way it used to be before all these abnormal freaks took over PETE OF QUEENS PARK
  • Score: -6

4:41pm Thu 22 May 14

PETE OF QUEENS PARK says...

Pheasant pluckers son wrote:
So the rot of commercialism has finally reached the free street party. They sneaked this in quick. Shame on them. The venues make an absolute fortune over the pride weekend. So where can the person go who isn't on a vast income go to enjoy the day? It's not just the minimal cost for the arm band it's the principal . Next year the cost will go up .
At present (or should that be in the past) pride goers had two choices, pay to go to the park or go to the free event at the street party. Now there is no choice. The well off will go to either both events or the park, the less fortunate will go to the steet party or no where. This Rot in the brighton pride must stop. The parade last year was just float after float of advertising. There was one pub in the whole parade, The Edge from Southampton ( I have seen the listings so it's a fact) see May edition of gscene page 6.
This will end with pride fizzling out with people loosing interested and feeling they are getting ripped off at every stage .
This will be the end of Pride HOORAY let's get back to the the Brighton to the way it used to be before all these abnormal freaks took over
[quote][p][bold]Pheasant pluckers son[/bold] wrote: So the rot of commercialism has finally reached the free street party. They sneaked this in quick. Shame on them. The venues make an absolute fortune over the pride weekend. So where can the person go who isn't on a vast income go to enjoy the day? It's not just the minimal cost for the arm band it's the principal . Next year the cost will go up . At present (or should that be in the past) pride goers had two choices, pay to go to the park or go to the free event at the street party. Now there is no choice. The well off will go to either both events or the park, the less fortunate will go to the steet party or no where. This Rot in the brighton pride must stop. The parade last year was just float after float of advertising. There was one pub in the whole parade, The Edge from Southampton ( I have seen the listings so it's a fact) see May edition of gscene page 6. This will end with pride fizzling out with people loosing interested and feeling they are getting ripped off at every stage .[/p][/quote]This will be the end of Pride HOORAY let's get back to the the Brighton to the way it used to be before all these abnormal freaks took over PETE OF QUEENS PARK
  • Score: -4

4:41pm Thu 22 May 14

PETE OF QUEENS PARK says...

Pheasant pluckers son wrote:
So the rot of commercialism has finally reached the free street party. They sneaked this in quick. Shame on them. The venues make an absolute fortune over the pride weekend. So where can the person go who isn't on a vast income go to enjoy the day? It's not just the minimal cost for the arm band it's the principal . Next year the cost will go up .
At present (or should that be in the past) pride goers had two choices, pay to go to the park or go to the free event at the street party. Now there is no choice. The well off will go to either both events or the park, the less fortunate will go to the steet party or no where. This Rot in the brighton pride must stop. The parade last year was just float after float of advertising. There was one pub in the whole parade, The Edge from Southampton ( I have seen the listings so it's a fact) see May edition of gscene page 6.
This will end with pride fizzling out with people loosing interested and feeling they are getting ripped off at every stage .
This will be the end of Pride HOORAY let's get back to the the Brighton to the way it used to be before all these abnormal freaks took over
[quote][p][bold]Pheasant pluckers son[/bold] wrote: So the rot of commercialism has finally reached the free street party. They sneaked this in quick. Shame on them. The venues make an absolute fortune over the pride weekend. So where can the person go who isn't on a vast income go to enjoy the day? It's not just the minimal cost for the arm band it's the principal . Next year the cost will go up . At present (or should that be in the past) pride goers had two choices, pay to go to the park or go to the free event at the street party. Now there is no choice. The well off will go to either both events or the park, the less fortunate will go to the steet party or no where. This Rot in the brighton pride must stop. The parade last year was just float after float of advertising. There was one pub in the whole parade, The Edge from Southampton ( I have seen the listings so it's a fact) see May edition of gscene page 6. This will end with pride fizzling out with people loosing interested and feeling they are getting ripped off at every stage .[/p][/quote]This will be the end of Pride HOORAY let's get back to the the Brighton to the way it used to be before all these abnormal freaks took over PETE OF QUEENS PARK
  • Score: 0

4:44pm Thu 22 May 14

Pheasant pluckers son says...

PETE OF QUEENS PARK wrote:
Pheasant pluckers son wrote:
So the rot of commercialism has finally reached the free street party. They sneaked this in quick. Shame on them. The venues make an absolute fortune over the pride weekend. So where can the person go who isn't on a vast income go to enjoy the day? It's not just the minimal cost for the arm band it's the principal . Next year the cost will go up .
At present (or should that be in the past) pride goers had two choices, pay to go to the park or go to the free event at the street party. Now there is no choice. The well off will go to either both events or the park, the less fortunate will go to the steet party or no where. This Rot in the brighton pride must stop. The parade last year was just float after float of advertising. There was one pub in the whole parade, The Edge from Southampton ( I have seen the listings so it's a fact) see May edition of gscene page 6.
This will end with pride fizzling out with people loosing interested and feeling they are getting ripped off at every stage .
This will be the end of Pride HOORAY let's get back to the the Brighton to the way it used to be before all these abnormal freaks took over
No one wants the end of pride. It's time to refocus on what pride should be about, who it helps ect, not just lining the pockets of any business regarding whether they are gay or straight.
And let's start with bigoted views about any member of society shall we..
[quote][p][bold]PETE OF QUEENS PARK[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pheasant pluckers son[/bold] wrote: So the rot of commercialism has finally reached the free street party. They sneaked this in quick. Shame on them. The venues make an absolute fortune over the pride weekend. So where can the person go who isn't on a vast income go to enjoy the day? It's not just the minimal cost for the arm band it's the principal . Next year the cost will go up . At present (or should that be in the past) pride goers had two choices, pay to go to the park or go to the free event at the street party. Now there is no choice. The well off will go to either both events or the park, the less fortunate will go to the steet party or no where. This Rot in the brighton pride must stop. The parade last year was just float after float of advertising. There was one pub in the whole parade, The Edge from Southampton ( I have seen the listings so it's a fact) see May edition of gscene page 6. This will end with pride fizzling out with people loosing interested and feeling they are getting ripped off at every stage .[/p][/quote]This will be the end of Pride HOORAY let's get back to the the Brighton to the way it used to be before all these abnormal freaks took over[/p][/quote]No one wants the end of pride. It's time to refocus on what pride should be about, who it helps ect, not just lining the pockets of any business regarding whether they are gay or straight. And let's start with bigoted views about any member of society shall we.. Pheasant pluckers son
  • Score: 2

4:54pm Thu 22 May 14

mancuniannw says...

I urge people to check out the bullying letter that was sent to residents of the gay village by Manchester Pride in 2011. You can find it on the FacstMCR website (Google it).

Apparently the Pride organisers felt they had the right to grant or refuse access to peoples' homes. This could be what you're letting yourself in for in Brighton. It's about creating a captive market that can then be exploited because alcohol and food can't be taken in.

Your organisers are spinning this on the basis of safety and you will then have increased costs to cover for fences, security and all sorts. It's a complete repeat of what they've done in Manchester since 2003. Please don't go down that road.
I urge people to check out the bullying letter that was sent to residents of the gay village by Manchester Pride in 2011. You can find it on the FacstMCR website (Google it). Apparently the Pride organisers felt they had the right to grant or refuse access to peoples' homes. This could be what you're letting yourself in for in Brighton. It's about creating a captive market that can then be exploited because alcohol and food can't be taken in. Your organisers are spinning this on the basis of safety and you will then have increased costs to cover for fences, security and all sorts. It's a complete repeat of what they've done in Manchester since 2003. Please don't go down that road. mancuniannw
  • Score: 11

4:59pm Thu 22 May 14

Bill in Hanover says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
What is the legal situation regarding charging the public to enter a street belonging to the Brighton and Hove residents? This is a public street, not a private garden. What about shoppers in the area? Will they be charged entry to the area just to do their shopping? Meanwhile Preston Park becomes a no-go place for non payers during Pride weekend. There was also talk of doing the same with the Pavilion Gardens some time in the future. Hove lawns charge entry for the Food Fair. How long will it be before there is an entry charge to enter Brighton and Hove itself?
From the article I don't think anyone will have entry restricted but only those wearing wristbands would be able to buy booze in the associated bars but I can't see pubs and bars turning away customers without wristbands.
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: What is the legal situation regarding charging the public to enter a street belonging to the Brighton and Hove residents? This is a public street, not a private garden. What about shoppers in the area? Will they be charged entry to the area just to do their shopping? Meanwhile Preston Park becomes a no-go place for non payers during Pride weekend. There was also talk of doing the same with the Pavilion Gardens some time in the future. Hove lawns charge entry for the Food Fair. How long will it be before there is an entry charge to enter Brighton and Hove itself?[/p][/quote]From the article I don't think anyone will have entry restricted but only those wearing wristbands would be able to buy booze in the associated bars but I can't see pubs and bars turning away customers without wristbands. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 4

5:41pm Thu 22 May 14

Pheasant pluckers son says...

Bill in Hanover wrote:
hoveguyactually wrote:
What is the legal situation regarding charging the public to enter a street belonging to the Brighton and Hove residents? This is a public street, not a private garden. What about shoppers in the area? Will they be charged entry to the area just to do their shopping? Meanwhile Preston Park becomes a no-go place for non payers during Pride weekend. There was also talk of doing the same with the Pavilion Gardens some time in the future. Hove lawns charge entry for the Food Fair. How long will it be before there is an entry charge to enter Brighton and Hove itself?
From the article I don't think anyone will have entry restricted but only those wearing wristbands would be able to buy booze in the associated bars but I can't see pubs and bars turning away customers without wristbands.
I think you will find they will restrict anyone from entering the fenced off area without a wristband. My thoughts were the same as yours initially until I looked further into their plans. The idea is to create a enclosed area where only people paying n wearing wristbands can enter.
Can we ask how much the venues are contributing to this.. In fact n figures rather than speculation.
[quote][p][bold]Bill in Hanover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: What is the legal situation regarding charging the public to enter a street belonging to the Brighton and Hove residents? This is a public street, not a private garden. What about shoppers in the area? Will they be charged entry to the area just to do their shopping? Meanwhile Preston Park becomes a no-go place for non payers during Pride weekend. There was also talk of doing the same with the Pavilion Gardens some time in the future. Hove lawns charge entry for the Food Fair. How long will it be before there is an entry charge to enter Brighton and Hove itself?[/p][/quote]From the article I don't think anyone will have entry restricted but only those wearing wristbands would be able to buy booze in the associated bars but I can't see pubs and bars turning away customers without wristbands.[/p][/quote]I think you will find they will restrict anyone from entering the fenced off area without a wristband. My thoughts were the same as yours initially until I looked further into their plans. The idea is to create a enclosed area where only people paying n wearing wristbands can enter. Can we ask how much the venues are contributing to this.. In fact n figures rather than speculation. Pheasant pluckers son
  • Score: 5

5:49pm Thu 22 May 14

easy43 says...

There is no doubt about it that the pride street party has got way way to big for St James street and something has to give!! it's got very uncomfortable due to the volume of people so surely the answer would be is to move it slightly rather than start charging people yet more money for an event that is and always has been free.
Move the street party to Marine Parade and all the bars in St James street that would normally Benefit could have make shift bars down there like they already do outside their respective business on the day. for the sake of a few hours the traffic can be diverted up Edward street and along kings road. Any toilet facilities can be moved there as well. There really is no need to change anything else and this way there is no need to charge people for entering what is a (PUBLIC) street which is already paid for with our council tax and other public monies.

If Every single reveller was to throw a £1 into a collection bucket on the day the difference that could make to the rainbow fund and the charities it supports but all to often I over hear people saying why should they make a donation I don't live here!!! and that's exactly one of the reasons that Preston park is now ticket only because of the very same attitude people need to stop thinking of themselves and look at the bigger picture these events do cost money. Where is the money supposed to come from??
There is no doubt about it that the pride street party has got way way to big for St James street and something has to give!! it's got very uncomfortable due to the volume of people so surely the answer would be is to move it slightly rather than start charging people yet more money for an event that is and always has been free. Move the street party to Marine Parade and all the bars in St James street that would normally Benefit could have make shift bars down there like they already do outside their respective business on the day. for the sake of a few hours the traffic can be diverted up Edward street and along kings road. Any toilet facilities can be moved there as well. There really is no need to change anything else and this way there is no need to charge people for entering what is a (PUBLIC) street which is already paid for with our council tax and other public monies. If Every single reveller was to throw a £1 into a collection bucket on the day the difference that could make to the rainbow fund and the charities it supports but all to often I over hear people saying why should they make a donation I don't live here!!! and that's exactly one of the reasons that Preston park is now ticket only because of the very same attitude people need to stop thinking of themselves and look at the bigger picture these events do cost money. Where is the money supposed to come from?? easy43
  • Score: 1

5:56pm Thu 22 May 14

Pheasant pluckers son says...

Bill in Hanover wrote:
hoveguyactually wrote:
What is the legal situation regarding charging the public to enter a street belonging to the Brighton and Hove residents? This is a public street, not a private garden. What about shoppers in the area? Will they be charged entry to the area just to do their shopping? Meanwhile Preston Park becomes a no-go place for non payers during Pride weekend. There was also talk of doing the same with the Pavilion Gardens some time in the future. Hove lawns charge entry for the Food Fair. How long will it be before there is an entry charge to enter Brighton and Hove itself?
From the article I don't think anyone will have entry restricted but only those wearing wristbands would be able to buy booze in the associated bars but I can't see pubs and bars turning away customers without wristbands.
I hope that the same rules don't apply to the street party as the park. Obviously if the new restrictions are to be introduced then bags will be searched and any drinks will be confiscated. Not sure if the same rule will apply to part goers FOOD. currently no one can take their own food into the park. No one has mentioned this about the street party.
[quote][p][bold]Bill in Hanover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: What is the legal situation regarding charging the public to enter a street belonging to the Brighton and Hove residents? This is a public street, not a private garden. What about shoppers in the area? Will they be charged entry to the area just to do their shopping? Meanwhile Preston Park becomes a no-go place for non payers during Pride weekend. There was also talk of doing the same with the Pavilion Gardens some time in the future. Hove lawns charge entry for the Food Fair. How long will it be before there is an entry charge to enter Brighton and Hove itself?[/p][/quote]From the article I don't think anyone will have entry restricted but only those wearing wristbands would be able to buy booze in the associated bars but I can't see pubs and bars turning away customers without wristbands.[/p][/quote]I hope that the same rules don't apply to the street party as the park. Obviously if the new restrictions are to be introduced then bags will be searched and any drinks will be confiscated. Not sure if the same rule will apply to part goers FOOD. currently no one can take their own food into the park. No one has mentioned this about the street party. Pheasant pluckers son
  • Score: 1

6:29pm Thu 22 May 14

hugo1977 says...

mancuniannw wrote:
I urge people to check out the bullying letter that was sent to residents of the gay village by Manchester Pride in 2011. You can find it on the FacstMCR website (Google it).

Apparently the Pride organisers felt they had the right to grant or refuse access to peoples' homes. This could be what you're letting yourself in for in Brighton. It's about creating a captive market that can then be exploited because alcohol and food can't be taken in.

Your organisers are spinning this on the basis of safety and you will then have increased costs to cover for fences, security and all sorts. It's a complete repeat of what they've done in Manchester since 2003. Please don't go down that road.
I lived in Manchester gay village during several pride events and it as a nightmare for the whole weekend .
Pride organisers refused you access with food shopping etc as the had the enclosure, you needed to arrange passes to have friends coming over.
The street party is a one day event but could easy be turning in the same as Suggested in Gscene today.
All I can advise is go to the consultation on Wednesday and vote against the proposal,
[quote][p][bold]mancuniannw[/bold] wrote: I urge people to check out the bullying letter that was sent to residents of the gay village by Manchester Pride in 2011. You can find it on the FacstMCR website (Google it). Apparently the Pride organisers felt they had the right to grant or refuse access to peoples' homes. This could be what you're letting yourself in for in Brighton. It's about creating a captive market that can then be exploited because alcohol and food can't be taken in. Your organisers are spinning this on the basis of safety and you will then have increased costs to cover for fences, security and all sorts. It's a complete repeat of what they've done in Manchester since 2003. Please don't go down that road.[/p][/quote]I lived in Manchester gay village during several pride events and it as a nightmare for the whole weekend . Pride organisers refused you access with food shopping etc as the had the enclosure, you needed to arrange passes to have friends coming over. The street party is a one day event but could easy be turning in the same as Suggested in Gscene today. All I can advise is go to the consultation on Wednesday and vote against the proposal, hugo1977
  • Score: 5

7:15pm Thu 22 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Voice of Ignorance asked:

"Never been have you? "

Whether I have or haven't is irrelevant when pointing out that stupid people have to be told or dissuaded not to cram into a street party.

And as has been pointed out, if a street party is being charged for, then it no longer is one.
Voice of Ignorance asked: "Never been have you? " Whether I have or haven't is irrelevant when pointing out that stupid people have to be told or dissuaded not to cram into a street party. And as has been pointed out, if a street party is being charged for, then it no longer is one. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -4

7:16pm Thu 22 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Lord_Byron wrote:
If we're going to start charging for parades, parties and marches.

Can we start by charging the EDL when they come to town because the amount of resource they use when they turn up is sickening.
The costs of that event are due to the presence of UAF filth.

Why not send the bill for the policing costs to Caroline Lucas, seeing as she fully supports the UAF?
[quote][p][bold]Lord_Byron[/bold] wrote: If we're going to start charging for parades, parties and marches. Can we start by charging the EDL when they come to town because the amount of resource they use when they turn up is sickening.[/p][/quote]The costs of that event are due to the presence of UAF filth. Why not send the bill for the policing costs to Caroline Lucas, seeing as she fully supports the UAF? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -6

11:52pm Thu 22 May 14

hoveguyactually says...

Brighton and Hove people should turn up in mass on the day and refuse to pay to enter a public street. With enough of us there, the organisers will find it very hard to prevent us entering. How about it folks? St James Street is not a "gay village", but a city street with shops, cafes etc that one should never have to pay to access, in spite of the crazy publicity of arch idiot Paul Kemp and several clowns on our council.
Brighton and Hove people should turn up in mass on the day and refuse to pay to enter a public street. With enough of us there, the organisers will find it very hard to prevent us entering. How about it folks? St James Street is not a "gay village", but a city street with shops, cafes etc that one should never have to pay to access, in spite of the crazy publicity of arch idiot Paul Kemp and several clowns on our council. hoveguyactually
  • Score: 5

1:43am Fri 23 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
Brighton and Hove people should turn up in mass on the day and refuse to pay to enter a public street. With enough of us there, the organisers will find it very hard to prevent us entering. How about it folks? St James Street is not a "gay village", but a city street with shops, cafes etc that one should never have to pay to access, in spite of the crazy publicity of arch idiot Paul Kemp and several clowns on our council.
Yeah, turn up mob-handed to a street which is charging entry for.....er......peop
le turning up mob-handed in years gone by.

Why not just avoid the area? Most sensible people will be avoiding the whole city.
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: Brighton and Hove people should turn up in mass on the day and refuse to pay to enter a public street. With enough of us there, the organisers will find it very hard to prevent us entering. How about it folks? St James Street is not a "gay village", but a city street with shops, cafes etc that one should never have to pay to access, in spite of the crazy publicity of arch idiot Paul Kemp and several clowns on our council.[/p][/quote]Yeah, turn up mob-handed to a street which is charging entry for.....er......peop le turning up mob-handed in years gone by. Why not just avoid the area? Most sensible people will be avoiding the whole city. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

2:44am Fri 23 May 14

Wide Bertha says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
hoveguyactually wrote:
Brighton and Hove people should turn up in mass on the day and refuse to pay to enter a public street. With enough of us there, the organisers will find it very hard to prevent us entering. How about it folks? St James Street is not a "gay village", but a city street with shops, cafes etc that one should never have to pay to access, in spite of the crazy publicity of arch idiot Paul Kemp and several clowns on our council.
Yeah, turn up mob-handed to a street which is charging entry for.....er......peop

le turning up mob-handed in years gone by.

Why not just avoid the area? Most sensible people will be avoiding the whole city.
and what will you be doing in the meantime ?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: Brighton and Hove people should turn up in mass on the day and refuse to pay to enter a public street. With enough of us there, the organisers will find it very hard to prevent us entering. How about it folks? St James Street is not a "gay village", but a city street with shops, cafes etc that one should never have to pay to access, in spite of the crazy publicity of arch idiot Paul Kemp and several clowns on our council.[/p][/quote]Yeah, turn up mob-handed to a street which is charging entry for.....er......peop le turning up mob-handed in years gone by. Why not just avoid the area? Most sensible people will be avoiding the whole city.[/p][/quote]and what will you be doing in the meantime ? Wide Bertha
  • Score: 1

9:34am Fri 23 May 14

kemptown75 says...

A public meeting to discuss Prides ridiculous proposals has been arranged for Wednesday 28th May at 7pm at Dorset Gardens Methodist Church.
I would urge anyone with an interest in the Street party to attend and voice your opinions.
As a resident I am very concerned that restricting access to St. James Street can only cause more problems; access to our properties for us & our friends will be a nightmare. You only have to look at the way the park event is run so see the chaos & misery caused by the queues to gain access to or from their event.
A public meeting to discuss Prides ridiculous proposals has been arranged for Wednesday 28th May at 7pm at Dorset Gardens Methodist Church. I would urge anyone with an interest in the Street party to attend and voice your opinions. As a resident I am very concerned that restricting access to St. James Street can only cause more problems; access to our properties for us & our friends will be a nightmare. You only have to look at the way the park event is run so see the chaos & misery caused by the queues to gain access to or from their event. kemptown75
  • Score: 4

9:41am Fri 23 May 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Voice of Ignorance asked:

"Never been have you? "

Whether I have or haven't is irrelevant when pointing out that stupid people have to be told or dissuaded not to cram into a street party.

And as has been pointed out, if a street party is being charged for, then it no longer is one.
Oh Gary, the patriot from Burgess Hell. How much more time are you going to spend discussing an event you have never been to and never plan to go to, in a place you despise? Perhaps it's time to get some hobbies.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: Voice of Ignorance asked: "Never been have you? " Whether I have or haven't is irrelevant when pointing out that stupid people have to be told or dissuaded not to cram into a street party. And as has been pointed out, if a street party is being charged for, then it no longer is one.[/p][/quote]Oh Gary, the patriot from Burgess Hell. How much more time are you going to spend discussing an event you have never been to and never plan to go to, in a place you despise? Perhaps it's time to get some hobbies. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 0

10:36am Fri 23 May 14

Seagul81 says...

Hmm Mr Kemp must be an idiot. People would not pay for it. It is just not going to happen. People will find a free party somewhere else.
Hmm Mr Kemp must be an idiot. People would not pay for it. It is just not going to happen. People will find a free party somewhere else. Seagul81
  • Score: 5

12:33pm Fri 23 May 14

SteveHove says...

Will they be closing off the seafront and restrict you going into the gay bars there.....????
Will they be closing off the seafront and restrict you going into the gay bars there.....???? SteveHove
  • Score: 1

12:43pm Fri 23 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

The Voice Of Ignorance:

"How much more time are you going to spend discussing an event you have never been to and never plan to go to, in a place you despise? Perhaps it's time to get some hobbies."

You seem to spend an awful lot of your pathetic existence worrying about how I live my life, where yo think I live, and what i spend my time doing.

You have no idea how many times I've attended Pride events, and you ignore all the 'I love Brighton' comments I make.

The fact remains that this topic is open to all to discuss, and your desire to stop those of opposing opinions to yours posting them shows what a fascist you are.

HTH
The Voice Of Ignorance: "How much more time are you going to spend discussing an event you have never been to and never plan to go to, in a place you despise? Perhaps it's time to get some hobbies." You seem to spend an awful lot of your pathetic existence worrying about how I live my life, where yo think I live, and what i spend my time doing. You have no idea how many times I've attended Pride events, and you ignore all the 'I love Brighton' comments I make. The fact remains that this topic is open to all to discuss, and your desire to stop those of opposing opinions to yours posting them shows what a fascist you are. HTH ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

1:22pm Fri 23 May 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
The Voice Of Ignorance:

"How much more time are you going to spend discussing an event you have never been to and never plan to go to, in a place you despise? Perhaps it's time to get some hobbies."

You seem to spend an awful lot of your pathetic existence worrying about how I live my life, where yo think I live, and what i spend my time doing.

You have no idea how many times I've attended Pride events, and you ignore all the 'I love Brighton' comments I make.

The fact remains that this topic is open to all to discuss, and your desire to stop those of opposing opinions to yours posting them shows what a fascist you are.

HTH
Sorry Gary. Didn't realise you went to Pride each year. Do you drag all your flat cap mates along, or is it a secret?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: The Voice Of Ignorance: "How much more time are you going to spend discussing an event you have never been to and never plan to go to, in a place you despise? Perhaps it's time to get some hobbies." You seem to spend an awful lot of your pathetic existence worrying about how I live my life, where yo think I live, and what i spend my time doing. You have no idea how many times I've attended Pride events, and you ignore all the 'I love Brighton' comments I make. The fact remains that this topic is open to all to discuss, and your desire to stop those of opposing opinions to yours posting them shows what a fascist you are. HTH[/p][/quote]Sorry Gary. Didn't realise you went to Pride each year. Do you drag all your flat cap mates along, or is it a secret? thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 0

1:48pm Fri 23 May 14

BackdoorBertie says...

Lots of angry people here but, as I understand it the council, supported by the police, insisted that the Pride organisation took responsibility for the street party this year. I believe that the financial contributions from bars and business in the area go nowhere near paying for adequate organisation, security, policing, first aid and cleaning. Therefore the council are left to deal with and pay for the fall-out. Quite rightly the council are no longer prepared, or have the funds, to do this. I think that the Pride organisers are between a rock and a hard place and just trying to find and fund a workable solution. I haven't seen the accounts but understand that, after its record contribution to the Rainbow Fund last year Pride was left with virtually no funds at all. Its unfair to claim that Paul Kemp and his team line their own pockets. I don't think that this is true at all and is very unfair to someone who works hard to deliver Pride for the community. All of the services and facilities demanded by the authorities to permit an event to take place have to be paid for. Without a charge to those who attend, and without significant contributions from those who benefit most (the bars and businesses) how are these service and facilities paid for? I don't see any of those who criticise and demand a "free event" offering to put their hands in their pockets.
Lots of angry people here but, as I understand it the council, supported by the police, insisted that the Pride organisation took responsibility for the street party this year. I believe that the financial contributions from bars and business in the area go nowhere near paying for adequate organisation, security, policing, first aid and cleaning. Therefore the council are left to deal with and pay for the fall-out. Quite rightly the council are no longer prepared, or have the funds, to do this. I think that the Pride organisers are between a rock and a hard place and just trying to find and fund a workable solution. I haven't seen the accounts but understand that, after its record contribution to the Rainbow Fund last year Pride was left with virtually no funds at all. Its unfair to claim that Paul Kemp and his team line their own pockets. I don't think that this is true at all and is very unfair to someone who works hard to deliver Pride for the community. All of the services and facilities demanded by the authorities to permit an event to take place have to be paid for. Without a charge to those who attend, and without significant contributions from those who benefit most (the bars and businesses) how are these service and facilities paid for? I don't see any of those who criticise and demand a "free event" offering to put their hands in their pockets. BackdoorBertie
  • Score: 0

1:52pm Fri 23 May 14

Fairfax Aches says...

I used to live around there and caught a guy weeing up the side of my wall during pride. I gave him such a jolly good kick up the goonies he just squealed.
I used to live around there and caught a guy weeing up the side of my wall during pride. I gave him such a jolly good kick up the goonies he just squealed. Fairfax Aches
  • Score: -1

2:36pm Fri 23 May 14

afterovid says...

BackdoorBertie wrote:
Lots of angry people here but, as I understand it the council, supported by the police, insisted that the Pride organisation took responsibility for the street party this year. I believe that the financial contributions from bars and business in the area go nowhere near paying for adequate organisation, security, policing, first aid and cleaning. Therefore the council are left to deal with and pay for the fall-out. Quite rightly the council are no longer prepared, or have the funds, to do this. I think that the Pride organisers are between a rock and a hard place and just trying to find and fund a workable solution. I haven't seen the accounts but understand that, after its record contribution to the Rainbow Fund last year Pride was left with virtually no funds at all. Its unfair to claim that Paul Kemp and his team line their own pockets. I don't think that this is true at all and is very unfair to someone who works hard to deliver Pride for the community. All of the services and facilities demanded by the authorities to permit an event to take place have to be paid for. Without a charge to those who attend, and without significant contributions from those who benefit most (the bars and businesses) how are these service and facilities paid for? I don't see any of those who criticise and demand a "free event" offering to put their hands in their pockets.
If a financial contribution's so necessary, why is 20% of the ticket price earmarked for charity then?.......... it stinks of one individual's egocentric vanity.... and the 'pink pound' extortionists strike again.
[quote][p][bold]BackdoorBertie[/bold] wrote: Lots of angry people here but, as I understand it the council, supported by the police, insisted that the Pride organisation took responsibility for the street party this year. I believe that the financial contributions from bars and business in the area go nowhere near paying for adequate organisation, security, policing, first aid and cleaning. Therefore the council are left to deal with and pay for the fall-out. Quite rightly the council are no longer prepared, or have the funds, to do this. I think that the Pride organisers are between a rock and a hard place and just trying to find and fund a workable solution. I haven't seen the accounts but understand that, after its record contribution to the Rainbow Fund last year Pride was left with virtually no funds at all. Its unfair to claim that Paul Kemp and his team line their own pockets. I don't think that this is true at all and is very unfair to someone who works hard to deliver Pride for the community. All of the services and facilities demanded by the authorities to permit an event to take place have to be paid for. Without a charge to those who attend, and without significant contributions from those who benefit most (the bars and businesses) how are these service and facilities paid for? I don't see any of those who criticise and demand a "free event" offering to put their hands in their pockets.[/p][/quote]If a financial contribution's so necessary, why is 20% of the ticket price earmarked for charity then?.......... it stinks of one individual's egocentric vanity.... and the 'pink pound' extortionists strike again. afterovid
  • Score: 1

2:42pm Fri 23 May 14

BackdoorBertie says...

afterovid wrote:
BackdoorBertie wrote:
Lots of angry people here but, as I understand it the council, supported by the police, insisted that the Pride organisation took responsibility for the street party this year. I believe that the financial contributions from bars and business in the area go nowhere near paying for adequate organisation, security, policing, first aid and cleaning. Therefore the council are left to deal with and pay for the fall-out. Quite rightly the council are no longer prepared, or have the funds, to do this. I think that the Pride organisers are between a rock and a hard place and just trying to find and fund a workable solution. I haven't seen the accounts but understand that, after its record contribution to the Rainbow Fund last year Pride was left with virtually no funds at all. Its unfair to claim that Paul Kemp and his team line their own pockets. I don't think that this is true at all and is very unfair to someone who works hard to deliver Pride for the community. All of the services and facilities demanded by the authorities to permit an event to take place have to be paid for. Without a charge to those who attend, and without significant contributions from those who benefit most (the bars and businesses) how are these service and facilities paid for? I don't see any of those who criticise and demand a "free event" offering to put their hands in their pockets.
If a financial contribution's so necessary, why is 20% of the ticket price earmarked for charity then?.......... it stinks of one individual's egocentric vanity.... and the 'pink pound' extortionists strike again.
What's so wrong about using the opportunity to raise funds for a local charity that then returns 100% of the money raised to local LGBT deserving causes? Its our local community that benefit in the end.
[quote][p][bold]afterovid[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BackdoorBertie[/bold] wrote: Lots of angry people here but, as I understand it the council, supported by the police, insisted that the Pride organisation took responsibility for the street party this year. I believe that the financial contributions from bars and business in the area go nowhere near paying for adequate organisation, security, policing, first aid and cleaning. Therefore the council are left to deal with and pay for the fall-out. Quite rightly the council are no longer prepared, or have the funds, to do this. I think that the Pride organisers are between a rock and a hard place and just trying to find and fund a workable solution. I haven't seen the accounts but understand that, after its record contribution to the Rainbow Fund last year Pride was left with virtually no funds at all. Its unfair to claim that Paul Kemp and his team line their own pockets. I don't think that this is true at all and is very unfair to someone who works hard to deliver Pride for the community. All of the services and facilities demanded by the authorities to permit an event to take place have to be paid for. Without a charge to those who attend, and without significant contributions from those who benefit most (the bars and businesses) how are these service and facilities paid for? I don't see any of those who criticise and demand a "free event" offering to put their hands in their pockets.[/p][/quote]If a financial contribution's so necessary, why is 20% of the ticket price earmarked for charity then?.......... it stinks of one individual's egocentric vanity.... and the 'pink pound' extortionists strike again.[/p][/quote]What's so wrong about using the opportunity to raise funds for a local charity that then returns 100% of the money raised to local LGBT deserving causes? Its our local community that benefit in the end. BackdoorBertie
  • Score: 0

3:22pm Fri 23 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
The Voice Of Ignorance:

"How much more time are you going to spend discussing an event you have never been to and never plan to go to, in a place you despise? Perhaps it's time to get some hobbies."

You seem to spend an awful lot of your pathetic existence worrying about how I live my life, where yo think I live, and what i spend my time doing.

You have no idea how many times I've attended Pride events, and you ignore all the 'I love Brighton' comments I make.

The fact remains that this topic is open to all to discuss, and your desire to stop those of opposing opinions to yours posting them shows what a fascist you are.

HTH
Sorry Gary. Didn't realise you went to Pride each year. Do you drag all your flat cap mates along, or is it a secret?
So you admit having to invent your claims.
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: The Voice Of Ignorance: "How much more time are you going to spend discussing an event you have never been to and never plan to go to, in a place you despise? Perhaps it's time to get some hobbies." You seem to spend an awful lot of your pathetic existence worrying about how I live my life, where yo think I live, and what i spend my time doing. You have no idea how many times I've attended Pride events, and you ignore all the 'I love Brighton' comments I make. The fact remains that this topic is open to all to discuss, and your desire to stop those of opposing opinions to yours posting them shows what a fascist you are. HTH[/p][/quote]Sorry Gary. Didn't realise you went to Pride each year. Do you drag all your flat cap mates along, or is it a secret?[/p][/quote]So you admit having to invent your claims. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 0

3:27pm Fri 23 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"What's so wrong about using the opportunity to raise funds for a local charity that then returns 100% of the money raised to local LGBT deserving causes? Its our local community that benefit in the end."

So if you're LGBT, you're a charity case?
"What's so wrong about using the opportunity to raise funds for a local charity that then returns 100% of the money raised to local LGBT deserving causes? Its our local community that benefit in the end." So if you're LGBT, you're a charity case? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

3:52pm Fri 23 May 14

Fairfax Aches says...

its gonna be ssssick! yeah!
its gonna be ssssick! yeah! Fairfax Aches
  • Score: 1

3:59pm Fri 23 May 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
The Voice Of Ignorance:

"How much more time are you going to spend discussing an event you have never been to and never plan to go to, in a place you despise? Perhaps it's time to get some hobbies."

You seem to spend an awful lot of your pathetic existence worrying about how I live my life, where yo think I live, and what i spend my time doing.

You have no idea how many times I've attended Pride events, and you ignore all the 'I love Brighton' comments I make.

The fact remains that this topic is open to all to discuss, and your desire to stop those of opposing opinions to yours posting them shows what a fascist you are.

HTH
Sorry Gary. Didn't realise you went to Pride each year. Do you drag all your flat cap mates along, or is it a secret?
So you admit having to invent your claims.
Hint. A question mark at the end of a question means it's a question. Can you answer the question?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: The Voice Of Ignorance: "How much more time are you going to spend discussing an event you have never been to and never plan to go to, in a place you despise? Perhaps it's time to get some hobbies." You seem to spend an awful lot of your pathetic existence worrying about how I live my life, where yo think I live, and what i spend my time doing. You have no idea how many times I've attended Pride events, and you ignore all the 'I love Brighton' comments I make. The fact remains that this topic is open to all to discuss, and your desire to stop those of opposing opinions to yours posting them shows what a fascist you are. HTH[/p][/quote]Sorry Gary. Didn't realise you went to Pride each year. Do you drag all your flat cap mates along, or is it a secret?[/p][/quote]So you admit having to invent your claims.[/p][/quote]Hint. A question mark at the end of a question means it's a question. Can you answer the question? thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 0

4:19pm Fri 23 May 14

Seagul81 says...

It just sounds fishy to me. If they want to donate £1 from every ticket that's fine, but what is going to happen with the rest of money? Providing security and other facilities is not going to cost £120,000 for the party like that. So it means that someone is going to get rich from something, which used to be free and for the community. That is scandalous!
It just sounds fishy to me. If they want to donate £1 from every ticket that's fine, but what is going to happen with the rest of money? Providing security and other facilities is not going to cost £120,000 for the party like that. So it means that someone is going to get rich from something, which used to be free and for the community. That is scandalous! Seagul81
  • Score: 5

4:46pm Fri 23 May 14

Sarrobbo says...

Let's move it up a bit and party on st George's road? Or the beach? For free...
Let's move it up a bit and party on st George's road? Or the beach? For free... Sarrobbo
  • Score: 0

4:51pm Fri 23 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Seagul81 wrote:
It just sounds fishy to me. If they want to donate £1 from every ticket that's fine, but what is going to happen with the rest of money? Providing security and other facilities is not going to cost £120,000 for the party like that. So it means that someone is going to get rich from something, which used to be free and for the community. That is scandalous!
I agree, but no-one is forcing anyone to pay, just as with the main event in Preston Park.
[quote][p][bold]Seagul81[/bold] wrote: It just sounds fishy to me. If they want to donate £1 from every ticket that's fine, but what is going to happen with the rest of money? Providing security and other facilities is not going to cost £120,000 for the party like that. So it means that someone is going to get rich from something, which used to be free and for the community. That is scandalous![/p][/quote]I agree, but no-one is forcing anyone to pay, just as with the main event in Preston Park. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -4

4:52pm Fri 23 May 14

Pheasant pluckers son says...

Pride has always claimed and proud to be totally transparent regarding funding for the parade, park, it's fund raising ect. How about all the businesses involved in the street party doing the same. Let's see how much each drinking establishment, bar, pub actually makes during the pride weekend, not forgetting how much they fork out extra in staff wages ect .and what each venue is willing to pay towards the security, stewards towards this years street party. I'm guessing a lot of people would love to see some figures in black & white.
Pride has always claimed and proud to be totally transparent regarding funding for the parade, park, it's fund raising ect. How about all the businesses involved in the street party doing the same. Let's see how much each drinking establishment, bar, pub actually makes during the pride weekend, not forgetting how much they fork out extra in staff wages ect .and what each venue is willing to pay towards the security, stewards towards this years street party. I'm guessing a lot of people would love to see some figures in black & white. Pheasant pluckers son
  • Score: 2

4:56pm Fri 23 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"Partygoers would not be allowed to bring alcohol or glass into the village party. "


Money!Money!Money!
"Partygoers would not be allowed to bring alcohol or glass into the village party. " Money!Money!Money! ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 1

5:12pm Fri 23 May 14

Seagul81 says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Seagul81 wrote:
It just sounds fishy to me. If they want to donate £1 from every ticket that's fine, but what is going to happen with the rest of money? Providing security and other facilities is not going to cost £120,000 for the party like that. So it means that someone is going to get rich from something, which used to be free and for the community. That is scandalous!
I agree, but no-one is forcing anyone to pay, just as with the main event in Preston Park.
That's great because I'm not going to spend a single penny on something, which is not transparent and looks very dodgy financially.
I'm going to enjoy my free party somewhere else and thank you very much for that.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagul81[/bold] wrote: It just sounds fishy to me. If they want to donate £1 from every ticket that's fine, but what is going to happen with the rest of money? Providing security and other facilities is not going to cost £120,000 for the party like that. So it means that someone is going to get rich from something, which used to be free and for the community. That is scandalous![/p][/quote]I agree, but no-one is forcing anyone to pay, just as with the main event in Preston Park.[/p][/quote]That's great because I'm not going to spend a single penny on something, which is not transparent and looks very dodgy financially. I'm going to enjoy my free party somewhere else and thank you very much for that. Seagul81
  • Score: 2

5:29pm Fri 23 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Seagul81 wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Seagul81 wrote:
It just sounds fishy to me. If they want to donate £1 from every ticket that's fine, but what is going to happen with the rest of money? Providing security and other facilities is not going to cost £120,000 for the party like that. So it means that someone is going to get rich from something, which used to be free and for the community. That is scandalous!
I agree, but no-one is forcing anyone to pay, just as with the main event in Preston Park.
That's great because I'm not going to spend a single penny on something, which is not transparent and looks very dodgy financially.
I'm going to enjoy my free party somewhere else and thank you very much for that.
You're welcome......there are bound to be free gatherings across the city that day and into the night.
[quote][p][bold]Seagul81[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagul81[/bold] wrote: It just sounds fishy to me. If they want to donate £1 from every ticket that's fine, but what is going to happen with the rest of money? Providing security and other facilities is not going to cost £120,000 for the party like that. So it means that someone is going to get rich from something, which used to be free and for the community. That is scandalous![/p][/quote]I agree, but no-one is forcing anyone to pay, just as with the main event in Preston Park.[/p][/quote]That's great because I'm not going to spend a single penny on something, which is not transparent and looks very dodgy financially. I'm going to enjoy my free party somewhere else and thank you very much for that.[/p][/quote]You're welcome......there are bound to be free gatherings across the city that day and into the night. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

5:59pm Fri 23 May 14

Seagul81 says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Seagul81 wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Seagul81 wrote:
It just sounds fishy to me. If they want to donate £1 from every ticket that's fine, but what is going to happen with the rest of money? Providing security and other facilities is not going to cost £120,000 for the party like that. So it means that someone is going to get rich from something, which used to be free and for the community. That is scandalous!
I agree, but no-one is forcing anyone to pay, just as with the main event in Preston Park.
That's great because I'm not going to spend a single penny on something, which is not transparent and looks very dodgy financially.
I'm going to enjoy my free party somewhere else and thank you very much for that.
You're welcome......there are bound to be free gatherings across the city that day and into the night.
You can do them if you like. Whatever floats your boat I guess.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagul81[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagul81[/bold] wrote: It just sounds fishy to me. If they want to donate £1 from every ticket that's fine, but what is going to happen with the rest of money? Providing security and other facilities is not going to cost £120,000 for the party like that. So it means that someone is going to get rich from something, which used to be free and for the community. That is scandalous![/p][/quote]I agree, but no-one is forcing anyone to pay, just as with the main event in Preston Park.[/p][/quote]That's great because I'm not going to spend a single penny on something, which is not transparent and looks very dodgy financially. I'm going to enjoy my free party somewhere else and thank you very much for that.[/p][/quote]You're welcome......there are bound to be free gatherings across the city that day and into the night.[/p][/quote]You can do them if you like. Whatever floats your boat I guess. Seagul81
  • Score: 1

6:17pm Fri 23 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Seagul81 wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Seagul81 wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Seagul81 wrote:
It just sounds fishy to me. If they want to donate £1 from every ticket that's fine, but what is going to happen with the rest of money? Providing security and other facilities is not going to cost £120,000 for the party like that. So it means that someone is going to get rich from something, which used to be free and for the community. That is scandalous!
I agree, but no-one is forcing anyone to pay, just as with the main event in Preston Park.
That's great because I'm not going to spend a single penny on something, which is not transparent and looks very dodgy financially.
I'm going to enjoy my free party somewhere else and thank you very much for that.
You're welcome......there are bound to be free gatherings across the city that day and into the night.
You can do them if you like. Whatever floats your boat I guess.
I'm in Spain that weekend, thanks.
[quote][p][bold]Seagul81[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagul81[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seagul81[/bold] wrote: It just sounds fishy to me. If they want to donate £1 from every ticket that's fine, but what is going to happen with the rest of money? Providing security and other facilities is not going to cost £120,000 for the party like that. So it means that someone is going to get rich from something, which used to be free and for the community. That is scandalous![/p][/quote]I agree, but no-one is forcing anyone to pay, just as with the main event in Preston Park.[/p][/quote]That's great because I'm not going to spend a single penny on something, which is not transparent and looks very dodgy financially. I'm going to enjoy my free party somewhere else and thank you very much for that.[/p][/quote]You're welcome......there are bound to be free gatherings across the city that day and into the night.[/p][/quote]You can do them if you like. Whatever floats your boat I guess.[/p][/quote]I'm in Spain that weekend, thanks. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

6:44pm Fri 23 May 14

mancuniannw says...

It's about setting up a more complicated framework that extra people can profit from. There'll be friends and cronies who run security, fencing, ticket printing and events management companies. Even if the event is ostensibly non-profit, there'll be "costs" which means money going into private pockets. Once you agree to this, costs will magically increase year on year. Again, check out what's happened with Manchester Pride since fences were introduced in 2003.

Once you're inside the "exploitation zone" you'll find that food and drink are sold at premium prices because taking in your own is forbidden. Staff in takeaways in Manchester's gay village openly admit that they increase prices during "Pride."

Throw in a bit of charity fundraising as a carrot and play up fears of violence if this isn't done.

Is anyone from Manchester acting as an "advisor" on Brighton by any chance? It seems familiar. Their eager to spread their "business model."
It's about setting up a more complicated framework that extra people can profit from. There'll be friends and cronies who run security, fencing, ticket printing and events management companies. Even if the event is ostensibly non-profit, there'll be "costs" which means money going into private pockets. Once you agree to this, costs will magically increase year on year. Again, check out what's happened with Manchester Pride since fences were introduced in 2003. Once you're inside the "exploitation zone" you'll find that food and drink are sold at premium prices because taking in your own is forbidden. Staff in takeaways in Manchester's gay village openly admit that they increase prices during "Pride." Throw in a bit of charity fundraising as a carrot and play up fears of violence if this isn't done. Is anyone from Manchester acting as an "advisor" on Brighton by any chance? It seems familiar. Their eager to spread their "business model." mancuniannw
  • Score: 4

7:15pm Sat 24 May 14

Levent says...

Lord_Byron wrote:
If we're going to start charging for parades, parties and marches.

Can we start by charging the EDL when they come to town because the amount of resource they use when they turn up is sickening.
Are you just worried you can't turn up and protest as usual?
As there's ALWAYS something you "libs" are offended at!
Stay sickened!!!
[quote][p][bold]Lord_Byron[/bold] wrote: If we're going to start charging for parades, parties and marches. Can we start by charging the EDL when they come to town because the amount of resource they use when they turn up is sickening.[/p][/quote]Are you just worried you can't turn up and protest as usual? As there's ALWAYS something you "libs" are offended at! Stay sickened!!! Levent
  • Score: 1

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