Thousands at illegal rave

Thousands at illegal rave

Thousands at illegal rave

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A total of 2,000 ravers partied all weekend at a beauty spot.

The revellers poured into Sussex from across the country at 1am on Sunday as the organised rave took place on open land just above Devil’s Dyke, near Dyke Golf Club.

Police made a decision overnight not to shut down the rave due to “the darkness, rain and numbers present”.

Seven huge sound systems blasted out music, which could also be heard from Poynings, to ravers whom passers-by described as being “out of their heads”.

Empty cans of lager and cider were strewn across the South Downs National Park yesterday as well as helium capsules used as highs by party-goers.

About 400 vehicles lined Devil’s Dyke Road, and while some ravers had the stamina to keep dancing yesterday evening, dozens of stragglers were passed out in their cars, surrounding car parks and grass verges.

Linda Freedman, chairwoman of Brighton and Hove Conservatives and councillor candidate for Goldsmid Ward, said: “I had a walk up there and people were just out of their heads.

“There were a load of revellers there and you could smell the cannabis.

“I dialled 999 and they told me they knew about the situation, but there was no police presence at the rave at all.

“I spoke to one police officer nearby and asked them what they were going to do about it and I was told ‘we only have four officers, so there’s nothing we can do’.

“But there’s no chance they can move away because they’ll all be under the influence.

“I don’t mind the music, but it’s booming out across the Downs.

“If they had a licence, no problem. But they don’t.

“It was very intimidating up there and this is meant to be a public place where people can bring their children.”

Speaking yesterday afternoon, a police spokesman said: “A number of calls have been received from nearby residents complaining about noise and the serious distress this event is causing them.

“Overnight it was assessed that due to the darkness, rain, and numbers present, it was not appropriate or practical to attempt to close the gathering safely.

“Although there are powers available to the police to close down illegal gatherings such as this, before exercising these powers an assessment has to be undertaken to determine whether or not such a gathering can be closed down safely and effectively.

“At present the assessment is that it would not be possible or safe to close the event down, given the number of officers available.”

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7:21am Mon 26 May 14

scott2 says...

Helium capsules? Is this a new high kids take so they can speak in high voices? :D Seems like the "journalist" must have been on something when writing this!
Helium capsules? Is this a new high kids take so they can speak in high voices? :D Seems like the "journalist" must have been on something when writing this! scott2
  • Score: 64

7:53am Mon 26 May 14

Lord Hamilton says...

The laws of the land only apply to householders as it's easy to enforce. Who will pay for the clean up of Devils Dyke and Preston Park? It's just not on!!!!
The laws of the land only apply to householders as it's easy to enforce. Who will pay for the clean up of Devils Dyke and Preston Park? It's just not on!!!! Lord Hamilton
  • Score: 1

8:03am Mon 26 May 14

scott2 says...

Lord Hamilton wrote:
The laws of the land only apply to householders as it's easy to enforce. Who will pay for the clean up of Devils Dyke and Preston Park? It's just not on!!!!
Not sure what Preston Park has to do with this story?

Confusing comments is just not on!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Lord Hamilton[/bold] wrote: The laws of the land only apply to householders as it's easy to enforce. Who will pay for the clean up of Devils Dyke and Preston Park? It's just not on!!!![/p][/quote]Not sure what Preston Park has to do with this story? Confusing comments is just not on!!!! scott2
  • Score: 7

8:17am Mon 26 May 14

hoveguyactually says...

So that's all right then!
Presumably local residents can now look forward to more of the same.
So that's all right then! Presumably local residents can now look forward to more of the same. hoveguyactually
  • Score: 16

8:28am Mon 26 May 14

robbyl says...

How many of the 400 parked cars did the Police stop on the way out?, probably none, they were too busy thinking up another excuse not to do anything and leave more time to concentrate on ordinary people who commit low level law breaking but are easy to pursue.
How many of the 400 parked cars did the Police stop on the way out?, probably none, they were too busy thinking up another excuse not to do anything and leave more time to concentrate on ordinary people who commit low level law breaking but are easy to pursue. robbyl
  • Score: 11

8:28am Mon 26 May 14

john newman says...

The police are PAID to preserve law and order. Their decision to not prevent such acts only serve to result in more incidents of this type. What are we paying them for?
The police are PAID to preserve law and order. Their decision to not prevent such acts only serve to result in more incidents of this type. What are we paying them for? john newman
  • Score: 25

8:37am Mon 26 May 14

Gribbet says...

"helium capsules", lol
"helium capsules", lol Gribbet
  • Score: 32

8:39am Mon 26 May 14

Helen Ariel says...

Let the young uns have their fun. There's too many rules and regs and sometimes they need breaking once in a while. The littering is not on though and rave organisers should leave the site spotless.
Let the young uns have their fun. There's too many rules and regs and sometimes they need breaking once in a while. The littering is not on though and rave organisers should leave the site spotless. Helen Ariel
  • Score: 98

8:44am Mon 26 May 14

hyram77 says...

For an event such as this to attract so many people it must have been widely advertised on social media. Shouldn't the police have picked up on this intelligence and prevented the rave being set up by having an advance presence? Prevention is usually better than cure! Still, I do like a rave.
For an event such as this to attract so many people it must have been widely advertised on social media. Shouldn't the police have picked up on this intelligence and prevented the rave being set up by having an advance presence? Prevention is usually better than cure! Still, I do like a rave. hyram77
  • Score: 21

9:09am Mon 26 May 14

s&k says...

A free festival for middle class drop outs.
A free festival for middle class drop outs. s&k
  • Score: 0

9:15am Mon 26 May 14

Helen Ariel says...

After seeing the Go pro vid I do think the rave organisers could have picked a more secluded spot. Bit daft raving in the middle of a footpath in broad daylight with walkers and bikers coming through the middle of you! Raves used to be hard to find and that was half the fun...but maybe the youth of today can't be bothered to walk across a field!
After seeing the Go pro vid I do think the rave organisers could have picked a more secluded spot. Bit daft raving in the middle of a footpath in broad daylight with walkers and bikers coming through the middle of you! Raves used to be hard to find and that was half the fun...but maybe the youth of today can't be bothered to walk across a field! Helen Ariel
  • Score: 19

9:20am Mon 26 May 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

Only 4 officers available?, there were over 500 police standing around all day at the March for England only the other week policing about 200 people on a march.
Only 4 officers available?, there were over 500 police standing around all day at the March for England only the other week policing about 200 people on a march. Telscombe Cliffy
  • Score: 52

9:38am Mon 26 May 14

NickBrt says...

I hope the nearby travellers weren't affected by the house, if they were then something must be done.
I hope the nearby travellers weren't affected by the house, if they were then something must be done. NickBrt
  • Score: 12

9:42am Mon 26 May 14

binbag says...

There's no music now and hasn't been since six. Did it rain so they all went home. Or did the police actually do something?
There's no music now and hasn't been since six. Did it rain so they all went home. Or did the police actually do something? binbag
  • Score: 0

9:51am Mon 26 May 14

straightasadye says...

Police are a joke. Only 4 police officers available - load of bo...cks?
Just as well then we didn't have a riot on our hands.
Bottom line is, the tail is wagging the dog in this country now.
Police are a joke. Only 4 police officers available - load of bo...cks? Just as well then we didn't have a riot on our hands. Bottom line is, the tail is wagging the dog in this country now. straightasadye
  • Score: 13

10:04am Mon 26 May 14

twosugars says...

So what Linda freedman is saying is that if the organisers had (paid for) a licence then the rave could have gone ahead "No problem".
So what Linda freedman is saying is that if the organisers had (paid for) a licence then the rave could have gone ahead "No problem". twosugars
  • Score: 16

10:11am Mon 26 May 14

BURIRAM says...

If the police can't police it bring in the Army
If the police can't police it bring in the Army BURIRAM
  • Score: -22

10:14am Mon 26 May 14

ironlady says...

john newman wrote:
The police are PAID to preserve law and order. Their decision to not prevent such acts only serve to result in more incidents of this type. What are we paying them for?
I think you'll find they contribute just as much to their salary as you and I do, so it's about time idiots like you stopped with the whole ' I pay your wages' opinion. As for the officers on the ground....they wouldn't be the ones making the decisions about how or if any enforcement action would take place. As usual, those decisions are made by those that don't actually deal with the general public. I think it's just awful for any of the home owners living within earshot of the racket they've endured over the weekend, so I certainly have lots of empathy for those involved. I suspect the reason for no enforcement over the weekend by the Police would simply have been down to the lack of officers available for such an operation. And for that my friends, you can blame this wonderful government and the massive cuts they have made to Policing as a whole.
[quote][p][bold]john newman[/bold] wrote: The police are PAID to preserve law and order. Their decision to not prevent such acts only serve to result in more incidents of this type. What are we paying them for?[/p][/quote]I think you'll find they contribute just as much to their salary as you and I do, so it's about time idiots like you stopped with the whole ' I pay your wages' opinion. As for the officers on the ground....they wouldn't be the ones making the decisions about how or if any enforcement action would take place. As usual, those decisions are made by those that don't actually deal with the general public. I think it's just awful for any of the home owners living within earshot of the racket they've endured over the weekend, so I certainly have lots of empathy for those involved. I suspect the reason for no enforcement over the weekend by the Police would simply have been down to the lack of officers available for such an operation. And for that my friends, you can blame this wonderful government and the massive cuts they have made to Policing as a whole. ironlady
  • Score: 17

10:18am Mon 26 May 14

Quiterie says...

NickBrt wrote:
I hope the nearby travellers weren't affected by the house, if they were then something must be done.
Apparently they're very angry about the disruption from the rave and are planning to claim compensation as their human rights have been violated. Quite right too!
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: I hope the nearby travellers weren't affected by the house, if they were then something must be done.[/p][/quote]Apparently they're very angry about the disruption from the rave and are planning to claim compensation as their human rights have been violated. Quite right too! Quiterie
  • Score: 12

10:29am Mon 26 May 14

cookie_brighton says...

scott2 wrote:
Lord Hamilton wrote:
The laws of the land only apply to householders as it's easy to enforce. Who will pay for the clean up of Devils Dyke and Preston Park? It's just not on!!!!
Not sure what Preston Park has to do with this story?

Confusing comments is just not on!!!!
just to educate you, as council tax payers we will be paying for the clean up after the NON PAYING COUNCIL TAX PAYING STUDENTS end their ILLEGAL party, similar occurs when the Gay Pride event ends, Preston Park will be cleaned.....
[quote][p][bold]scott2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Hamilton[/bold] wrote: The laws of the land only apply to householders as it's easy to enforce. Who will pay for the clean up of Devils Dyke and Preston Park? It's just not on!!!![/p][/quote]Not sure what Preston Park has to do with this story? Confusing comments is just not on!!!![/p][/quote]just to educate you, as council tax payers we will be paying for the clean up after the NON PAYING COUNCIL TAX PAYING STUDENTS end their ILLEGAL party, similar occurs when the Gay Pride event ends, Preston Park will be cleaned..... cookie_brighton
  • Score: -8

10:38am Mon 26 May 14

cookie_brighton says...

Helen Ariel wrote:
Let the young uns have their fun. There's too many rules and regs and sometimes they need breaking once in a while. The littering is not on though and rave organisers should leave the site spotless.
you feel that committing illegall acts are .....fun.....I bet your views would change if this happened in your.............bac
k garden.
[quote][p][bold]Helen Ariel[/bold] wrote: Let the young uns have their fun. There's too many rules and regs and sometimes they need breaking once in a while. The littering is not on though and rave organisers should leave the site spotless.[/p][/quote]you feel that committing illegall acts are .....fun.....I bet your views would change if this happened in your.............bac k garden. cookie_brighton
  • Score: -12

10:38am Mon 26 May 14

hubby says...

Let the kids have their fun.They're not hurting anybody!
Let the kids have their fun.They're not hurting anybody! hubby
  • Score: 32

10:44am Mon 26 May 14

clubrob6 says...

robbyl wrote:
How many of the 400 parked cars did the Police stop on the way out?, probably none, they were too busy thinking up another excuse not to do anything and leave more time to concentrate on ordinary people who commit low level law breaking but are easy to pursue.
The less the police do the better it is for crime figures.The reality of this situation is the police quite simply did not have the man power on duty to do anything else about the rave but to let it carry on and monitor it.Official crime is down but in reality its only because we have fewer police on duty to record any.Plus our local police stations have closed down and the on-line reporting form as I found out just gets ignored.On the beach yesterday you could smell cannabis people quite simply know the police no longer have the numbers to control such issues.Imagine if the police did checks on every car leaving the event alcohol and drugs would still be in there system but it would not be good for crime figures which in turn would not be good for justifying the police cuts.
[quote][p][bold]robbyl[/bold] wrote: How many of the 400 parked cars did the Police stop on the way out?, probably none, they were too busy thinking up another excuse not to do anything and leave more time to concentrate on ordinary people who commit low level law breaking but are easy to pursue.[/p][/quote]The less the police do the better it is for crime figures.The reality of this situation is the police quite simply did not have the man power on duty to do anything else about the rave but to let it carry on and monitor it.Official crime is down but in reality its only because we have fewer police on duty to record any.Plus our local police stations have closed down and the on-line reporting form as I found out just gets ignored.On the beach yesterday you could smell cannabis people quite simply know the police no longer have the numbers to control such issues.Imagine if the police did checks on every car leaving the event alcohol and drugs would still be in there system but it would not be good for crime figures which in turn would not be good for justifying the police cuts. clubrob6
  • Score: 3

10:47am Mon 26 May 14

scott2 says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
scott2 wrote:
Lord Hamilton wrote:
The laws of the land only apply to householders as it's easy to enforce. Who will pay for the clean up of Devils Dyke and Preston Park? It's just not on!!!!
Not sure what Preston Park has to do with this story?

Confusing comments is just not on!!!!
just to educate you, as council tax payers we will be paying for the clean up after the NON PAYING COUNCIL TAX PAYING STUDENTS end their ILLEGAL party, similar occurs when the Gay Pride event ends, Preston Park will be cleaned.....
Just to educate you, there was no reference that these were students. Given it was a bank holiday, they could well be employed people paying council tax. Or they could be living with their council tax paying parents. Gay Pride is also a paid for event now. Please use capitals sparingly, not to yell.
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scott2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Hamilton[/bold] wrote: The laws of the land only apply to householders as it's easy to enforce. Who will pay for the clean up of Devils Dyke and Preston Park? It's just not on!!!![/p][/quote]Not sure what Preston Park has to do with this story? Confusing comments is just not on!!!![/p][/quote]just to educate you, as council tax payers we will be paying for the clean up after the NON PAYING COUNCIL TAX PAYING STUDENTS end their ILLEGAL party, similar occurs when the Gay Pride event ends, Preston Park will be cleaned.....[/p][/quote]Just to educate you, there was no reference that these were students. Given it was a bank holiday, they could well be employed people paying council tax. Or they could be living with their council tax paying parents. Gay Pride is also a paid for event now. Please use capitals sparingly, not to yell. scott2
  • Score: 43

10:49am Mon 26 May 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

What a shame to think of those people living nearby, in their expensive mansions, having their normal quiet existence disrupted - my heart is breaking for them, lol!
What a shame to think of those people living nearby, in their expensive mansions, having their normal quiet existence disrupted - my heart is breaking for them, lol! getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: 9

10:51am Mon 26 May 14

Simplot Headrush says...

Good on 'em, but they were a bit lazy throwing the party somewhere so obvious and with so much through traffic. Back in the day we'd tour the down on bikes looking for a secluded dip and area of disused land. That way the party could run its course, we'd clear up in the morning and no one would know the wiser. Well, other than the time a group of nocturnal orienteers ran through a full-on multi-sound system party... that was a strange meeting of cultures.
Good on 'em, but they were a bit lazy throwing the party somewhere so obvious and with so much through traffic. Back in the day we'd tour the down on bikes looking for a secluded dip and area of disused land. That way the party could run its course, we'd clear up in the morning and no one would know the wiser. Well, other than the time a group of nocturnal orienteers ran through a full-on multi-sound system party... that was a strange meeting of cultures. Simplot Headrush
  • Score: 32

10:54am Mon 26 May 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

They don't look like students. They look like middle aged women in the photos. Ravers used to be skinny birds and boys from all the dancing and drug taking now it looks like old mums and dads who have palmed the kids off on the grandparents for the bank holiday weekend are kicking off their shoes.
Maybe they can drag the kids up to the downs next week for a litter pick and nature bug hunt.
They don't look like students. They look like middle aged women in the photos. Ravers used to be skinny birds and boys from all the dancing and drug taking now it looks like old mums and dads who have palmed the kids off on the grandparents for the bank holiday weekend are kicking off their shoes. Maybe they can drag the kids up to the downs next week for a litter pick and nature bug hunt. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 16

10:54am Mon 26 May 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

They don't look like students. They look like middle aged women in the photos. Ravers used to be skinny birds and boys from all the dancing and drug taking now it looks like old mums and dads who have palmed the kids off on the grandparents for the bank holiday weekend are kicking off their shoes.
Maybe they can drag the kids up to the downs next week for a litter pick and nature bug hunt.
They don't look like students. They look like middle aged women in the photos. Ravers used to be skinny birds and boys from all the dancing and drug taking now it looks like old mums and dads who have palmed the kids off on the grandparents for the bank holiday weekend are kicking off their shoes. Maybe they can drag the kids up to the downs next week for a litter pick and nature bug hunt. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: -1

10:55am Mon 26 May 14

emma_barnes says...

john newman wrote:
The police are PAID to preserve law and order. Their decision to not prevent such acts only serve to result in more incidents of this type. What are we paying them for?
Your not paying enough due to the cuts. This is a good example of how the police are overstretched. They have to make difficult choices with extremely limited numbers of officers. Do they search for a 97yr old female wandering in Uckfield overnight who might die or close down an illegal rave, effecting a limited number of the public. Right to life wins. Police would love to deal with all calls from the public but the harsh reality is that is no longer possible..... Perhaps click on the link on the Sussex Police website to become a special, as that is the only way numbers of staff will improve in the current financial climate.
[quote][p][bold]john newman[/bold] wrote: The police are PAID to preserve law and order. Their decision to not prevent such acts only serve to result in more incidents of this type. What are we paying them for?[/p][/quote]Your not paying enough due to the cuts. This is a good example of how the police are overstretched. They have to make difficult choices with extremely limited numbers of officers. Do they search for a 97yr old female wandering in Uckfield overnight who might die or close down an illegal rave, effecting a limited number of the public. Right to life wins. Police would love to deal with all calls from the public but the harsh reality is that is no longer possible..... Perhaps click on the link on the Sussex Police website to become a special, as that is the only way numbers of staff will improve in the current financial climate. emma_barnes
  • Score: 16

11:09am Mon 26 May 14

Quiterie says...

I need some helium capsules for my 5 year old daughter's birthday party this afternoon. If there are helium dealers at the rave I might head up there and see if I can get a piece of the action........
I need some helium capsules for my 5 year old daughter's birthday party this afternoon. If there are helium dealers at the rave I might head up there and see if I can get a piece of the action........ Quiterie
  • Score: 24

11:14am Mon 26 May 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

What a load of rubbish Emma. The police are on site, they are just not using any laws available to them.
If they weren't on site, your point would be correct.
What a load of rubbish Emma. The police are on site, they are just not using any laws available to them. If they weren't on site, your point would be correct. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: -14

11:14am Mon 26 May 14

binbag says...

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
What a shame to think of those people living nearby, in their expensive mansions, having their normal quiet existence disrupted - my heart is breaking for them, lol!
There are no mansions near devils dyke. I live in a rented house in Poynings as there's no way I would ever be able to afford to buy anywhere! Why would you assume just because it's in the countryside everyone is rich
[quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: What a shame to think of those people living nearby, in their expensive mansions, having their normal quiet existence disrupted - my heart is breaking for them, lol![/p][/quote]There are no mansions near devils dyke. I live in a rented house in Poynings as there's no way I would ever be able to afford to buy anywhere! Why would you assume just because it's in the countryside everyone is rich binbag
  • Score: 21

11:16am Mon 26 May 14

Number Six says...

hubby wrote:
Let the kids have their fun.They're not hurting anybody!
Of course they are not hurting anyone. Well, apart from the local residents. Oh, and the wildlife. But apart from that...

I didn't know we still had raves. Seems so very nineties to me
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: Let the kids have their fun.They're not hurting anybody![/p][/quote]Of course they are not hurting anyone. Well, apart from the local residents. Oh, and the wildlife. But apart from that... I didn't know we still had raves. Seems so very nineties to me Number Six
  • Score: -11

11:16am Mon 26 May 14

Fairfax Aches says...

typical NIMBIES raring up at the slightest glint of anything outside their cherished comfort zone. About time the police had a more even handed approach, what about the right of people to socialise in a public place? These nimbies want a return to a police state like North Korea.
typical NIMBIES raring up at the slightest glint of anything outside their cherished comfort zone. About time the police had a more even handed approach, what about the right of people to socialise in a public place? These nimbies want a return to a police state like North Korea. Fairfax Aches
  • Score: 13

11:27am Mon 26 May 14

emma_barnes says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
What a load of rubbish Emma. The police are on site, they are just not using any laws available to them.
If they weren't on site, your point would be correct.
They need "numbers" of officers to deal with this. On a bank holiday weekend, that's difficult. They have officers "monitoring" events but not enough to sieze equipment, deal with any potential public order or check vehicles leaving. If they arrest 2 people that takes at least 3-4 officers away from the site.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: What a load of rubbish Emma. The police are on site, they are just not using any laws available to them. If they weren't on site, your point would be correct.[/p][/quote]They need "numbers" of officers to deal with this. On a bank holiday weekend, that's difficult. They have officers "monitoring" events but not enough to sieze equipment, deal with any potential public order or check vehicles leaving. If they arrest 2 people that takes at least 3-4 officers away from the site. emma_barnes
  • Score: 10

11:30am Mon 26 May 14

SImonWoodingdean says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
Only 4 officers available?, there were over 500 police standing around all day at the March for England only the other week policing about 200 people on a march.
And of those how many were Sussex Pol? I saw plenty of Met carriers lined up at the Amex for the March for England. March for England are known to be violent and it take a 2to1 ratio in case it does kick off. Ravers are noisy and litter louts but aren't violent if left alone. If you go in and disrupt the event they do become violent and then the 2 to 1 ratio applies. Sussex could probably muster about 200 officers quickly. The rest would have to come from the Met and other surrounding forces and would take time. In the few hours that this would take those 100-200 from Sussex whould be trying to control 1000 people trying to hurt them. Lots of officers and ravers would be injured and the costs to people and property would be enourmous.
If you want these events disrupted by the police and everybody thrown off the site then you have to pay....a lot. Police are on a lose lose and have to make a rational decision about how to deal with it.
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: Only 4 officers available?, there were over 500 police standing around all day at the March for England only the other week policing about 200 people on a march.[/p][/quote]And of those how many were Sussex Pol? I saw plenty of Met carriers lined up at the Amex for the March for England. March for England are known to be violent and it take a 2to1 ratio in case it does kick off. Ravers are noisy and litter louts but aren't violent if left alone. If you go in and disrupt the event they do become violent and then the 2 to 1 ratio applies. Sussex could probably muster about 200 officers quickly. The rest would have to come from the Met and other surrounding forces and would take time. In the few hours that this would take those 100-200 from Sussex whould be trying to control 1000 people trying to hurt them. Lots of officers and ravers would be injured and the costs to people and property would be enourmous. If you want these events disrupted by the police and everybody thrown off the site then you have to pay....a lot. Police are on a lose lose and have to make a rational decision about how to deal with it. SImonWoodingdean
  • Score: 13

11:31am Mon 26 May 14

worthingite says...

Thousands, there is only three in the picture, over egged on the numbers as per usual.
Thousands, there is only three in the picture, over egged on the numbers as per usual. worthingite
  • Score: 4

11:34am Mon 26 May 14

dailycrisis says...

Helen Ariel wrote:
Let the young uns have their fun. There's too many rules and regs and sometimes they need breaking once in a while. The littering is not on though and rave organisers should leave the site spotless.
Some of the soundsystems were making attempts to clean up the surrounding rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]Helen Ariel[/bold] wrote: Let the young uns have their fun. There's too many rules and regs and sometimes they need breaking once in a while. The littering is not on though and rave organisers should leave the site spotless.[/p][/quote]Some of the soundsystems were making attempts to clean up the surrounding rubbish. dailycrisis
  • Score: 21

11:39am Mon 26 May 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

The police don't want to enforce any laws as the outcome in the magistrates court will be a handful of small fines for petty offences. It's not worth the cost of paperwork for the cops and the judicial system.
However, the landowner would benefit by taking individuals through civil court and landing them with clean up costs. The cost of decontaminating land which may have been used as a toilet is very high, hence the council delivering portable toilets to traveller camps as the cost of lending loos and emptying them outweighs the cost of decontamination.
The police don't want to enforce any laws as the outcome in the magistrates court will be a handful of small fines for petty offences. It's not worth the cost of paperwork for the cops and the judicial system. However, the landowner would benefit by taking individuals through civil court and landing them with clean up costs. The cost of decontaminating land which may have been used as a toilet is very high, hence the council delivering portable toilets to traveller camps as the cost of lending loos and emptying them outweighs the cost of decontamination. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: -3

11:40am Mon 26 May 14

dailycrisis says...

hyram77 wrote:
For an event such as this to attract so many people it must have been widely advertised on social media. Shouldn't the police have picked up on this intelligence and prevented the rave being set up by having an advance presence? Prevention is usually better than cure! Still, I do like a rave.
It doesn't get advertised on social media due to the police knowing and preparing for the event to take place.
[quote][p][bold]hyram77[/bold] wrote: For an event such as this to attract so many people it must have been widely advertised on social media. Shouldn't the police have picked up on this intelligence and prevented the rave being set up by having an advance presence? Prevention is usually better than cure! Still, I do like a rave.[/p][/quote]It doesn't get advertised on social media due to the police knowing and preparing for the event to take place. dailycrisis
  • Score: 6

11:44am Mon 26 May 14

dailycrisis says...

worthingite wrote:
Thousands, there is only three in the picture, over egged on the numbers as per usual.
If there's only three people in the picture that must mean there was only three people? Must of taken ages to set up seven huge sound systems!
[quote][p][bold]worthingite[/bold] wrote: Thousands, there is only three in the picture, over egged on the numbers as per usual.[/p][/quote]If there's only three people in the picture that must mean there was only three people? Must of taken ages to set up seven huge sound systems! dailycrisis
  • Score: 1

11:53am Mon 26 May 14

dailycrisis says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
They don't look like students. They look like middle aged women in the photos. Ravers used to be skinny birds and boys from all the dancing and drug taking now it looks like old mums and dads who have palmed the kids off on the grandparents for the bank holiday weekend are kicking off their shoes.
Maybe they can drag the kids up to the downs next week for a litter pick and nature bug hunt.
A mixture of ages go to these events. However the average age is 18-25 to your surprise.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: They don't look like students. They look like middle aged women in the photos. Ravers used to be skinny birds and boys from all the dancing and drug taking now it looks like old mums and dads who have palmed the kids off on the grandparents for the bank holiday weekend are kicking off their shoes. Maybe they can drag the kids up to the downs next week for a litter pick and nature bug hunt.[/p][/quote]A mixture of ages go to these events. However the average age is 18-25 to your surprise. dailycrisis
  • Score: 7

12:11pm Mon 26 May 14

ash696 says...

Fantastic. There's life still in the kids. Rules are meant to be bent a little once in a while and the neighbours will get over it. Gives them something to moan about. Rave on :)
Fantastic. There's life still in the kids. Rules are meant to be bent a little once in a while and the neighbours will get over it. Gives them something to moan about. Rave on :) ash696
  • Score: 34

12:26pm Mon 26 May 14

rayellerton says...

ash696 wrote:
Fantastic. There's life still in the kids. Rules are meant to be bent a little once in a while and the neighbours will get over it. Gives them something to moan about. Rave on :)
Agree entirely Ash.... Raves are illegal because they are not controlled by licences, they are usually spontaneous and give an outlet to dance without cctv, over priced drinks, and over bearing security. Age is no barrier and everyone is accepted whatever you are wearing....its know as freedom
[quote][p][bold]ash696[/bold] wrote: Fantastic. There's life still in the kids. Rules are meant to be bent a little once in a while and the neighbours will get over it. Gives them something to moan about. Rave on :)[/p][/quote]Agree entirely Ash.... Raves are illegal because they are not controlled by licences, they are usually spontaneous and give an outlet to dance without cctv, over priced drinks, and over bearing security. Age is no barrier and everyone is accepted whatever you are wearing....its know as freedom rayellerton
  • Score: 25

12:33pm Mon 26 May 14

ironlady says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
The police don't want to enforce any laws as the outcome in the magistrates court will be a handful of small fines for petty offences. It's not worth the cost of paperwork for the cops and the judicial system.
However, the landowner would benefit by taking individuals through civil court and landing them with clean up costs. The cost of decontaminating land which may have been used as a toilet is very high, hence the council delivering portable toilets to traveller camps as the cost of lending loos and emptying them outweighs the cost of decontamination.
The Police 'don't want to enforce any laws'???? Were you one of those off their faces on the Downs this weekend??? The Police have little or nothing to do with the courts, that is a completely different issue. I cannot begin to imagine where you think you get your facts from but you appear to be completely deluded. You would probably do well to wind your neck and avoid the usual anti police rants......it really does make you look an idiot. Completely agree with Emma's previous comments - based on the facts, the Police were only ever in a position to monitor the situation, there simply wasn't the man power for removal of these people. As for March for England, this is a pre planned event with several months notice to accommodate the required staffing levels, hence the plentiful numbers of officers present.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: The police don't want to enforce any laws as the outcome in the magistrates court will be a handful of small fines for petty offences. It's not worth the cost of paperwork for the cops and the judicial system. However, the landowner would benefit by taking individuals through civil court and landing them with clean up costs. The cost of decontaminating land which may have been used as a toilet is very high, hence the council delivering portable toilets to traveller camps as the cost of lending loos and emptying them outweighs the cost of decontamination.[/p][/quote]The Police 'don't want to enforce any laws'???? Were you one of those off their faces on the Downs this weekend??? The Police have little or nothing to do with the courts, that is a completely different issue. I cannot begin to imagine where you think you get your facts from but you appear to be completely deluded. You would probably do well to wind your neck and avoid the usual anti police rants......it really does make you look an idiot. Completely agree with Emma's previous comments - based on the facts, the Police were only ever in a position to monitor the situation, there simply wasn't the man power for removal of these people. As for March for England, this is a pre planned event with several months notice to accommodate the required staffing levels, hence the plentiful numbers of officers present. ironlady
  • Score: 4

12:43pm Mon 26 May 14

downfader says...

They've caused a danger, a mess and an expense:
http://road.cc/conte
nt/news/120003-video
-surreal-sussex-cycl
ists-sunday-ride-stu
mble-across-illegal-
rave
They've caused a danger, a mess and an expense: http://road.cc/conte nt/news/120003-video -surreal-sussex-cycl ists-sunday-ride-stu mble-across-illegal- rave downfader
  • Score: -14

12:53pm Mon 26 May 14

dailycrisis says...

downfader wrote:
They've caused a danger, a mess and an expense:
http://road.cc/conte

nt/news/120003-video

-surreal-sussex-cycl

ists-sunday-ride-stu

mble-across-illegal-

rave
https://you.38degree
s.org.uk/petitions/c
all-for-free-party-s
-and-free-festivals-
to-be-made-legal-in-
the-uk
[quote][p][bold]downfader[/bold] wrote: They've caused a danger, a mess and an expense: http://road.cc/conte nt/news/120003-video -surreal-sussex-cycl ists-sunday-ride-stu mble-across-illegal- rave[/p][/quote]https://you.38degree s.org.uk/petitions/c all-for-free-party-s -and-free-festivals- to-be-made-legal-in- the-uk dailycrisis
  • Score: 5

1:00pm Mon 26 May 14

straightasadye says...

Crime Prosecution Services should be prosecuting the police for aiding and abetting the ravers.
Crime Prosecution Services should be prosecuting the police for aiding and abetting the ravers. straightasadye
  • Score: -13

1:30pm Mon 26 May 14

Watchdog50 says...

john newman wrote:
The police are PAID to preserve law and order. Their decision to not prevent such acts only serve to result in more incidents of this type. What are we paying them for?
You're absolutely right John. However, just how many officers do you think the police could have mustered at short notice to nip this in the bud? From experience, I'd suggest that there would have been about 40 officers on duty on the division.......Perha
ps 100 or so, force wide. Take out those who are dealing with the usual Friday night nonsense, the domestics, the drunken idiots in the towns, the kids missing from care homes and foster placements, the myriad of calls surrounding those with mental health issues (the police being the only agency who will offer any sort of assistance to such people out of hours) or those officers who are babysitting prisoners at hospital (as most prisoners feign illness in order to spend time in the relative comfort of a hospital setting). Take out all those officers and you could count those left on one hand. In addition, strangely enough the organizers of these events don't tend to tell the police when or where they're happening and it only becomes apparent that a rave is in progress once the calls start coming in, by which time it's well established and it would be an impossible job to stop it even if every officer on duty were pulled away from the other jobs listed previously.

So yes John....In the ideal world, the police would be able to focus solely on the issues that YOU believe to be important and for which you believe you pay them. However, while you may be delighted if they were to have thrown resources at this incident and successfully stopped it, I can guarantee that there would have been hundreds of others with opposing views who'd have been lambasting the police for not focusing on issues which considered more important.
[quote][p][bold]john newman[/bold] wrote: The police are PAID to preserve law and order. Their decision to not prevent such acts only serve to result in more incidents of this type. What are we paying them for?[/p][/quote]You're absolutely right John. However, just how many officers do you think the police could have mustered at short notice to nip this in the bud? From experience, I'd suggest that there would have been about 40 officers on duty on the division.......Perha ps 100 or so, force wide. Take out those who are dealing with the usual Friday night nonsense, the domestics, the drunken idiots in the towns, the kids missing from care homes and foster placements, the myriad of calls surrounding those with mental health issues (the police being the only agency who will offer any sort of assistance to such people out of hours) or those officers who are babysitting prisoners at hospital (as most prisoners feign illness in order to spend time in the relative comfort of a hospital setting). Take out all those officers and you could count those left on one hand. In addition, strangely enough the organizers of these events don't tend to tell the police when or where they're happening and it only becomes apparent that a rave is in progress once the calls start coming in, by which time it's well established and it would be an impossible job to stop it even if every officer on duty were pulled away from the other jobs listed previously. So yes John....In the ideal world, the police would be able to focus solely on the issues that YOU believe to be important and for which you believe you pay them. However, while you may be delighted if they were to have thrown resources at this incident and successfully stopped it, I can guarantee that there would have been hundreds of others with opposing views who'd have been lambasting the police for not focusing on issues which [they] considered more important. Watchdog50
  • Score: 19

1:35pm Mon 26 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

ash696 wrote:
Fantastic. There's life still in the kids. Rules are meant to be bent a little once in a while and the neighbours will get over it. Gives them something to moan about. Rave on :)
So, that's alright, then.

A little inconvenience never hurt anybody, right?
[quote][p][bold]ash696[/bold] wrote: Fantastic. There's life still in the kids. Rules are meant to be bent a little once in a while and the neighbours will get over it. Gives them something to moan about. Rave on :)[/p][/quote]So, that's alright, then. A little inconvenience never hurt anybody, right? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 0

2:40pm Mon 26 May 14

nightmareklown says...

th1s was r3ally bangin such gr8 t00ns had gr88 time at da party l000l
th1s was r3ally bangin such gr8 t00ns had gr88 time at da party l000l nightmareklown
  • Score: -5

3:08pm Mon 26 May 14

Sir Prised says...

I'm surprised we're allowed to comment at all! I thought travellers, trespassers and ravers were immune from criticism on this esteemed site. As said previously, it's only the law-abiding, tax-paying, residents who's expected to toe-the-line these days. They leave the site in a state - one can only imagine - but heaven help you if you put the recycling in the wrong bin!
I'm surprised we're allowed to comment at all! I thought travellers, trespassers and ravers were immune from criticism on this esteemed site. As said previously, it's only the law-abiding, tax-paying, residents who's expected to toe-the-line these days. They leave the site in a state - one can only imagine - but heaven help you if you put the recycling in the wrong bin! Sir Prised
  • Score: 6

3:29pm Mon 26 May 14

davhsgfh246 says...

I was at the party, at the ends everyone cleared all the rubbish up, there was no trouble up there the whole time, maybe some of you need to get a life rather than making stuff up to make us sound bad
I was at the party, at the ends everyone cleared all the rubbish up, there was no trouble up there the whole time, maybe some of you need to get a life rather than making stuff up to make us sound bad davhsgfh246
  • Score: 10

3:37pm Mon 26 May 14

Northern immigrant says...

People whinging about insignificant things like this is just another sad indication of the REAL hypocrisy of the residents of this supposedly "liberal and tolerant" part of the country.(I wonder how many of you secretly voted Ukip Thursday?).What about the illegal sexual activity that "allegedly" occurs up there on a nightly basis? I guess its o.k to go dogging up there, but you cant play music and dance? Really? A bunch of kids just trying to have a good time at the weekend, but because its on your doorstep its a problem? And what of the mess left on the beach after EVERY summer weekend? I guess empty pinot grigio bottles and waitrose burger wrappers from organic BBQs are o.k too? Seriously, I've never lived in, nor been to, a more pretentious and hypocritical place in all my life. My days, some people have even mentioned using the army or tear gas! And what if that doesn't work? What shall we do with these master criminals and enemies of the state? Round them up and send them off to concentration camps? Or jusr carry on whinging about Sussex police, a bunch of kids, and a PCC you voted for!
People whinging about insignificant things like this is just another sad indication of the REAL hypocrisy of the residents of this supposedly "liberal and tolerant" part of the country.(I wonder how many of you secretly voted Ukip Thursday?).What about the illegal sexual activity that "allegedly" occurs up there on a nightly basis? I guess its o.k to go dogging up there, but you cant play music and dance? Really? A bunch of kids just trying to have a good time at the weekend, but because its on your doorstep its a problem? And what of the mess left on the beach after EVERY summer weekend? I guess empty pinot grigio bottles and waitrose burger wrappers from organic BBQs are o.k too? Seriously, I've never lived in, nor been to, a more pretentious and hypocritical place in all my life. My days, some people have even mentioned using the army or tear gas! And what if that doesn't work? What shall we do with these master criminals and enemies of the state? Round them up and send them off to concentration camps? Or jusr carry on whinging about Sussex police, a bunch of kids, and a PCC you voted for! Northern immigrant
  • Score: 13

4:07pm Mon 26 May 14

Elgabalus says...

It was amazing, it went on till about 5.30 in the morning. The grove was amazing, the girls more than willing, no trouble and it was no more intrusive than pride or that Rainbow nonsense camp or a hundred other do's I loved it and am going to the next one.....Yes! It is already planned XX love ya Greens xxx
It was amazing, it went on till about 5.30 in the morning. The grove was amazing, the girls more than willing, no trouble and it was no more intrusive than pride or that Rainbow nonsense camp or a hundred other do's I loved it and am going to the next one.....Yes! It is already planned XX love ya Greens xxx Elgabalus
  • Score: 5

4:24pm Mon 26 May 14

Conelli98 says...

I wish I still had it in me for a rave, I remember the all nighters at Blackrock, Powerstation or Brighton Racecourse! Happy days!
As long as people cleared up and no damage that's fine by me...! If the travellers are allowed to pitch down at Waterhall and the cyclists causing mayhem up and down the Beacon then let the partygoers have a party! 😻
I wish I still had it in me for a rave, I remember the all nighters at Blackrock, Powerstation or Brighton Racecourse! Happy days! As long as people cleared up and no damage that's fine by me...! If the travellers are allowed to pitch down at Waterhall and the cyclists causing mayhem up and down the Beacon then let the partygoers have a party! 😻 Conelli98
  • Score: 15

4:52pm Mon 26 May 14

clubrob6 says...

Basically the police have now admitted they can't police our city and surrounding areas.They quite simply did not have the man power to do anything about the rave without putting themselves at risk.The same is about to happen with our fire service as they want to cut fire engines.What will happen if there is a major incident in sussex?A quite small rave on a bank holiday shows the police are not prepared for anything major.
Basically the police have now admitted they can't police our city and surrounding areas.They quite simply did not have the man power to do anything about the rave without putting themselves at risk.The same is about to happen with our fire service as they want to cut fire engines.What will happen if there is a major incident in sussex?A quite small rave on a bank holiday shows the police are not prepared for anything major. clubrob6
  • Score: -8

6:12pm Mon 26 May 14

Martin999 says...

nightmareklown wrote:
th1s was r3ally bangin such gr8 t00ns had gr88 time at da party l000l
Pardon?
[quote][p][bold]nightmareklown[/bold] wrote: th1s was r3ally bangin such gr8 t00ns had gr88 time at da party l000l[/p][/quote]Pardon? Martin999
  • Score: 6

6:52pm Mon 26 May 14

East of CrawleyDown says...

Reminds me of the good old days in the early 90's, the M25 orbital raves, warehouse raves, great tunes, great vibes.
Reminds me of the good old days in the early 90's, the M25 orbital raves, warehouse raves, great tunes, great vibes. East of CrawleyDown
  • Score: 12

7:06pm Mon 26 May 14

havok123456 says...

Note to journalist. Helium is not a high. It's N2O chargers. And I was one of the 'ravers' who went over the site afterwards with bin bags and rakes to clean up our party. So get the facts straight before writing the story.
Note to journalist. Helium is not a high. It's N2O chargers. And I was one of the 'ravers' who went over the site afterwards with bin bags and rakes to clean up our party. So get the facts straight before writing the story. havok123456
  • Score: 14

7:21pm Mon 26 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Will the ravers be returning to collect their rubbish and repair the damage the vehicles caused?

Thought not......unwashed scum!!
Will the ravers be returning to collect their rubbish and repair the damage the vehicles caused? Thought not......unwashed scum!! ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -7

7:35pm Mon 26 May 14

missPgreen says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Will the ravers be returning to collect their rubbish and repair the damage the vehicles caused?

Thought not......unwashed scum!!
.... and collect the heaps of excreta deposited.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: Will the ravers be returning to collect their rubbish and repair the damage the vehicles caused? Thought not......unwashed scum!![/p][/quote].... and collect the heaps of excreta deposited. missPgreen
  • Score: -5

7:54pm Mon 26 May 14

Watchdog50 says...

I really have to laugh at the wording used by the Argus in so many of their warped articles. Wording such as, 'the police decided against' closing this illegal rave. Yes, there were just so many alternative options open to them weren't there? It's like saying that 'the police decided against' stopping every single vehicle in Sussex during Friday afternoon rush hour, 'the police decided against' visiting every convicted criminal in the Sussex area to ensure that they were keeping their noses clean or 'the police decided against' making a complaint to the press complaints commission in relation to every biased, misreported or misleading article printed in the Argus.

Anyone with half a brain would be able to see that the numbers involved would mean that all of the aforementioned examples would be practically impossible to achieve.

Has the editor been stopped for speeding or is this just institutional anti-police bile.
I really have to laugh at the wording used by the Argus in so many of their warped articles. Wording such as, 'the police decided against' closing this illegal rave. Yes, there were just so many alternative options open to them weren't there? It's like saying that 'the police decided against' stopping every single vehicle in Sussex during Friday afternoon rush hour, 'the police decided against' visiting every convicted criminal in the Sussex area to ensure that they were keeping their noses clean or 'the police decided against' making a complaint to the press complaints commission in relation to every biased, misreported or misleading article printed in the Argus. Anyone with half a brain would be able to see that the numbers involved would mean that all of the aforementioned examples would be practically impossible to achieve. Has the editor been stopped for speeding or is this just institutional anti-police bile. Watchdog50
  • Score: 11

8:31pm Mon 26 May 14

clubrob6 says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Will the ravers be returning to collect their rubbish and repair the damage the vehicles caused?

Thought not......unwashed scum!!
Unwashed scum I didn't know the UAF were there perhaps instead of trying to stop free speech by force they have turned to stopping raves?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: Will the ravers be returning to collect their rubbish and repair the damage the vehicles caused? Thought not......unwashed scum!![/p][/quote]Unwashed scum I didn't know the UAF were there perhaps instead of trying to stop free speech by force they have turned to stopping raves? clubrob6
  • Score: 1

8:40pm Mon 26 May 14

clubrob6 says...

Elgabalus wrote:
It was amazing, it went on till about 5.30 in the morning. The grove was amazing, the girls more than willing, no trouble and it was no more intrusive than pride or that Rainbow nonsense camp or a hundred other do's I loved it and am going to the next one.....Yes! It is already planned XX love ya Greens xxx
No need to go out of brighton next time the nightlife is not policed these days anyway.As for drugs that's fine too I was on the beach on sat and there was that awfull smell of cannabis in the air and that was in the afternoon.The police can no longer stop events like raves as after the massive police cuts they struggle to answer 999 calls.I don't blame the police I certainly would not go into situations with no backup.
[quote][p][bold]Elgabalus[/bold] wrote: It was amazing, it went on till about 5.30 in the morning. The grove was amazing, the girls more than willing, no trouble and it was no more intrusive than pride or that Rainbow nonsense camp or a hundred other do's I loved it and am going to the next one.....Yes! It is already planned XX love ya Greens xxx[/p][/quote]No need to go out of brighton next time the nightlife is not policed these days anyway.As for drugs that's fine too I was on the beach on sat and there was that awfull smell of cannabis in the air and that was in the afternoon.The police can no longer stop events like raves as after the massive police cuts they struggle to answer 999 calls.I don't blame the police I certainly would not go into situations with no backup. clubrob6
  • Score: -10

8:52pm Mon 26 May 14

burgers1 says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
What a load of rubbish Emma. The police are on site, they are just not using any laws available to them.
If they weren't on site, your point would be correct.
You have no idea, police officers work incredibly hard, they have to with members of the public reporting, domestics, missing persons, drunken behaviour, road accidents, criminal damage, fraud, street drinking, theft, burglary, sex offences, drug dealing just to mention a few. In addition to this you have whingers moaning about what people have posted on facebook and twitter.

Yes the situaiton was not great at Devils Dyke but there are not hundreds of officers sitting around waiting for something to happen. I really don't think 2000 people are going to listen to 4 officers.
20% cuts do not help!
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: What a load of rubbish Emma. The police are on site, they are just not using any laws available to them. If they weren't on site, your point would be correct.[/p][/quote]You have no idea, police officers work incredibly hard, they have to with members of the public reporting, domestics, missing persons, drunken behaviour, road accidents, criminal damage, fraud, street drinking, theft, burglary, sex offences, drug dealing just to mention a few. In addition to this you have whingers moaning about what people have posted on facebook and twitter. Yes the situaiton was not great at Devils Dyke but there are not hundreds of officers sitting around waiting for something to happen. I really don't think 2000 people are going to listen to 4 officers. 20% cuts do not help! burgers1
  • Score: 3

10:52pm Mon 26 May 14

dailycrisis says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Will the ravers be returning to collect their rubbish and repair the damage the vehicles caused?

Thought not......unwashed scum!!
That's a bit rich. Many people and sound system crews were making an effort to clear up the rubbish and did a very good job of it. I know that they shouldn't be there in the first place, but don't make it out that they didn't do anything.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: Will the ravers be returning to collect their rubbish and repair the damage the vehicles caused? Thought not......unwashed scum!![/p][/quote]That's a bit rich. Many people and sound system crews were making an effort to clear up the rubbish and did a very good job of it. I know that they shouldn't be there in the first place, but don't make it out that they didn't do anything. dailycrisis
  • Score: 1

10:56pm Mon 26 May 14

dailycrisis says...

Northern immigrant wrote:
People whinging about insignificant things like this is just another sad indication of the REAL hypocrisy of the residents of this supposedly "liberal and tolerant" part of the country.(I wonder how many of you secretly voted Ukip Thursday?).What about the illegal sexual activity that "allegedly" occurs up there on a nightly basis? I guess its o.k to go dogging up there, but you cant play music and dance? Really? A bunch of kids just trying to have a good time at the weekend, but because its on your doorstep its a problem? And what of the mess left on the beach after EVERY summer weekend? I guess empty pinot grigio bottles and waitrose burger wrappers from organic BBQs are o.k too? Seriously, I've never lived in, nor been to, a more pretentious and hypocritical place in all my life. My days, some people have even mentioned using the army or tear gas! And what if that doesn't work? What shall we do with these master criminals and enemies of the state? Round them up and send them off to concentration camps? Or jusr carry on whinging about Sussex police, a bunch of kids, and a PCC you voted for!
I totally agree.
[quote][p][bold]Northern immigrant[/bold] wrote: People whinging about insignificant things like this is just another sad indication of the REAL hypocrisy of the residents of this supposedly "liberal and tolerant" part of the country.(I wonder how many of you secretly voted Ukip Thursday?).What about the illegal sexual activity that "allegedly" occurs up there on a nightly basis? I guess its o.k to go dogging up there, but you cant play music and dance? Really? A bunch of kids just trying to have a good time at the weekend, but because its on your doorstep its a problem? And what of the mess left on the beach after EVERY summer weekend? I guess empty pinot grigio bottles and waitrose burger wrappers from organic BBQs are o.k too? Seriously, I've never lived in, nor been to, a more pretentious and hypocritical place in all my life. My days, some people have even mentioned using the army or tear gas! And what if that doesn't work? What shall we do with these master criminals and enemies of the state? Round them up and send them off to concentration camps? Or jusr carry on whinging about Sussex police, a bunch of kids, and a PCC you voted for![/p][/quote]I totally agree. dailycrisis
  • Score: 1

12:16am Tue 27 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

dailycrisis wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Will the ravers be returning to collect their rubbish and repair the damage the vehicles caused?

Thought not......unwashed scum!!
That's a bit rich. Many people and sound system crews were making an effort to clear up the rubbish and did a very good job of it. I know that they shouldn't be there in the first place, but don't make it out that they didn't do anything.
So can you explain why National Trust volunteers were bagging up so much debris and asking for more volunteers on Wednesday?

At the same time, feel free to describe what you consider to be a 'very good job'.
[quote][p][bold]dailycrisis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: Will the ravers be returning to collect their rubbish and repair the damage the vehicles caused? Thought not......unwashed scum!![/p][/quote]That's a bit rich. Many people and sound system crews were making an effort to clear up the rubbish and did a very good job of it. I know that they shouldn't be there in the first place, but don't make it out that they didn't do anything.[/p][/quote]So can you explain why National Trust volunteers were bagging up so much debris and asking for more volunteers on Wednesday? At the same time, feel free to describe what you consider to be a 'very good job'. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 10

3:22am Tue 27 May 14

Gribbet says...

All you soulless, self-centred, angry old **** venting your self-induced outrage over a relatively small number of kids having a harmless free party really need to get some perspective on life.
All you soulless, self-centred, angry old **** venting your self-induced outrage over a relatively small number of kids having a harmless free party really need to get some perspective on life. Gribbet
  • Score: -4

7:27am Tue 27 May 14

ohhumanity says...

All the people complaining about the lack of police, here's an idea- why don't you apply to become a police officer? Then you can actually try and help instead of just whinging that things aren't going how YOU think they should be.

I would rather the police be patrolling the streets in Brighton, dealing with the likes of violence and drunken disorder, than trying to shut down a rave that hasn't caused any violence or serious criminal damage.

Its typical of most argus readers- happy to whine and complain, not happy to do anything about it
All the people complaining about the lack of police, here's an idea- why don't you apply to become a police officer? Then you can actually try and help instead of just whinging that things aren't going how YOU think they should be. I would rather the police be patrolling the streets in Brighton, dealing with the likes of violence and drunken disorder, than trying to shut down a rave that hasn't caused any violence or serious criminal damage. Its typical of most argus readers- happy to whine and complain, not happy to do anything about it ohhumanity
  • Score: 0

8:47am Tue 27 May 14

B rian Tawses left foot says...

I love the way the argus make Linda Freeman - local tory big noise - the eye witness at the festival. People were 'out of their heads' and you could smell cannabis'. Yes - and your point is? People have been getting 'out of their heads' since we lived in caves. You probably don't have to be Einstein to see that they always will. The fact that they were smoking cannabis is what really seems to irk our intrepid tory. Yet our streets are not full of dope heads fighting and causing mayhem, our A&E depts. are not full of stoners with horrible injuries as a result of violence. You really need to get out more and widen your horizons Linda.
I love the way the argus make Linda Freeman - local tory big noise - the eye witness at the festival. People were 'out of their heads' and you could smell cannabis'. Yes - and your point is? People have been getting 'out of their heads' since we lived in caves. You probably don't have to be Einstein to see that they always will. The fact that they were smoking cannabis is what really seems to irk our intrepid tory. Yet our streets are not full of dope heads fighting and causing mayhem, our A&E depts. are not full of stoners with horrible injuries as a result of violence. You really need to get out more and widen your horizons Linda. B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 12

1:32pm Tue 27 May 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

binbag wrote:
getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
What a shame to think of those people living nearby, in their expensive mansions, having their normal quiet existence disrupted - my heart is breaking for them, lol!
There are no mansions near devils dyke. I live in a rented house in Poynings as there's no way I would ever be able to afford to buy anywhere! Why would you assume just because it's in the countryside everyone is rich
Property is not cheap in Poynings. You may well not be able to afford to buy in Brighton but the prices are much higher to buy where you live than in B&H, that is a fact.

I know the area very well and I know the prices of properties around there and I know there are a lot of very large houses or don't you call a property with 6 bedrooms plus large?
[quote][p][bold]binbag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: What a shame to think of those people living nearby, in their expensive mansions, having their normal quiet existence disrupted - my heart is breaking for them, lol![/p][/quote]There are no mansions near devils dyke. I live in a rented house in Poynings as there's no way I would ever be able to afford to buy anywhere! Why would you assume just because it's in the countryside everyone is rich[/p][/quote]Property is not cheap in Poynings. You may well not be able to afford to buy in Brighton but the prices are much higher to buy where you live than in B&H, that is a fact. I know the area very well and I know the prices of properties around there and I know there are a lot of very large houses or don't you call a property with 6 bedrooms plus large? getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: -3

2:40pm Tue 27 May 14

raveonnnn says...

Nearly all the rubbish was cleared from the site and if all the police who your moaning about not doing there jobs properly went there who would of dealt with all the crimes and drunks in the nearby towns actually causing trouble not just dancing and smiling to music in a discrete area
Nearly all the rubbish was cleared from the site and if all the police who your moaning about not doing there jobs properly went there who would of dealt with all the crimes and drunks in the nearby towns actually causing trouble not just dancing and smiling to music in a discrete area raveonnnn
  • Score: -7

2:46pm Tue 27 May 14

raveonnnn says...

Your all sad old bags crying about a party need to get out your houses and have some fun for once in your little lives ! And just to make you smile you 'll be glad to know that all 2000 + people at the rave had an amazing time compared to the few of you who are upset about it :)
Your all sad old bags crying about a party need to get out your houses and have some fun for once in your little lives ! And just to make you smile you 'll be glad to know that all 2000 + people at the rave had an amazing time compared to the few of you who are upset about it :) raveonnnn
  • Score: -5

2:50pm Tue 27 May 14

raveonnnn says...

robbyl wrote:
How many of the 400 parked cars did the Police stop on the way out?, probably none, they were too busy thinking up another excuse not to do anything and leave more time to concentrate on ordinary people who commit low level law breaking but are easy to pursue.
Actually they stopped every car via a roadblock so stop whining sad man this is low level law breaking and maybe if the police didnt make it so hard to get amusic liscence none of this would of happened
[quote][p][bold]robbyl[/bold] wrote: How many of the 400 parked cars did the Police stop on the way out?, probably none, they were too busy thinking up another excuse not to do anything and leave more time to concentrate on ordinary people who commit low level law breaking but are easy to pursue.[/p][/quote]Actually they stopped every car via a roadblock so stop whining sad man this is low level law breaking and maybe if the police didnt make it so hard to get amusic liscence none of this would of happened raveonnnn
  • Score: 1

4:35pm Tue 27 May 14

robpeewee says...

.......and yet another group of selfish inconsiderate people leaving a mess behind. I have no problem with people having a good time as long as it not to the detriment of others enjoyment.
.......and yet another group of selfish inconsiderate people leaving a mess behind. I have no problem with people having a good time as long as it not to the detriment of others enjoyment. robpeewee
  • Score: 4

4:37pm Tue 27 May 14

missileman says...

Thank you the Green Party voters who left a pile for everyone else to clear up and the destruction of the fragile bird nesting sites in the area.

You will always be welcome here as are the travellers who are NEVER moved on in 24 hours despite the Plod, Local Authority and NT who are always informed within a couple of hours of arrival.

Not enough cash to police this crowd but plenty of money to keep the Pold Helicopter airborne at 3k plus an hour.

NT should persue the owners of the sound equipment whic should have been impounded until they paid foe the cleanup operation.
Thank you the Green Party voters who left a pile for everyone else to clear up and the destruction of the fragile bird nesting sites in the area. You will always be welcome here as are the travellers who are NEVER moved on in 24 hours despite the Plod, Local Authority and NT who are always informed within a couple of hours of arrival. Not enough cash to police this crowd but plenty of money to keep the Pold Helicopter airborne at 3k plus an hour. NT should persue the owners of the sound equipment whic should have been impounded until they paid foe the cleanup operation. missileman
  • Score: 6

6:36pm Tue 27 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

raveonnnn wrote:
Nearly all the rubbish was cleared from the site and if all the police who your moaning about not doing there jobs properly went there who would of dealt with all the crimes and drunks in the nearby towns actually causing trouble not just dancing and smiling to music in a discrete area
Get back to us when the dope has worn off.
[quote][p][bold]raveonnnn[/bold] wrote: Nearly all the rubbish was cleared from the site and if all the police who your moaning about not doing there jobs properly went there who would of dealt with all the crimes and drunks in the nearby towns actually causing trouble not just dancing and smiling to music in a discrete area[/p][/quote]Get back to us when the dope has worn off. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -10

8:28am Wed 28 May 14

Juleyanne says...

A successful rave is not just about a having a great weekend. It is only successful if the site is left in the condition it was found and all rubbish is removed. Leaving broken glass and other rubbish, harms wildlife and dogs.
A successful rave is not just about a having a great weekend. It is only successful if the site is left in the condition it was found and all rubbish is removed. Leaving broken glass and other rubbish, harms wildlife and dogs. Juleyanne
  • Score: 9

12:15pm Wed 28 May 14

thePointerWalker says...

this 'party' started at about 6.30 on saturday evening, I was walking on Newtimber and could clearly hear there was something like a big party starting. The police could easily (and cheaply) closed the road to this area , as the only traffic on that road at night is the people that frequent the scrub-wood for sex. That said, I love a party , but the ravers really did trash the site - the rubbish is strewn over an area well over a mile, so saying they cleared it is completely untrue, it's a dreadful mess up there , I was there on tuesday, and nothing has been cleared, and I hate to think what's in the bushes, as I doubt that there were any toilet arrangments. Days before they came and trashed the site, we saw masses of wildlife , including adders , deer, foxes , birds & rabbits etc etc. The Nat Trust could do with taking more care of the site - surely the first vehicles that drove onto the site were trespassing & guilty of some criminal damage, as there is no vehicle access ? What a pity that the resident herd of cantankerous cows (they've got calves though) didnt take some bovine action - didnt a walker get attacked there recently by cows ? Ravers - check out your sites with more care & clear up behind yourselves, you are making more enemies daily by trashing our wildlife and countryside. I'm not a spoilsport - I couldnt care less about the sex stuff that goes on up there, the only complaint I've made is that there was a fox-hunt on the land last year. This is only my second complaint ever about the Dyke, and I've been walking there almost daily for many years , I hope to walk that path again when there's been a clean-up, as the site isnt safe for me or my dogs at present.
this 'party' started at about 6.30 on saturday evening, I was walking on Newtimber and could clearly hear there was something like a big party starting. The police could easily (and cheaply) closed the road to this area , as the only traffic on that road at night is the people that frequent the scrub-wood for sex. That said, I love a party , but the ravers really did trash the site - the rubbish is strewn over an area well over a mile, so saying they cleared it is completely untrue, it's a dreadful mess up there , I was there on tuesday, and nothing has been cleared, and I hate to think what's in the bushes, as I doubt that there were any toilet arrangments. Days before they came and trashed the site, we saw masses of wildlife , including adders , deer, foxes , birds & rabbits etc etc. The Nat Trust could do with taking more care of the site - surely the first vehicles that drove onto the site were trespassing & guilty of some criminal damage, as there is no vehicle access ? What a pity that the resident herd of cantankerous cows (they've got calves though) didnt take some bovine action - didnt a walker get attacked there recently by cows ? Ravers - check out your sites with more care & clear up behind yourselves, you are making more enemies daily by trashing our wildlife and countryside. I'm not a spoilsport - I couldnt care less about the sex stuff that goes on up there, the only complaint I've made is that there was a fox-hunt on the land last year. This is only my second complaint ever about the Dyke, and I've been walking there almost daily for many years , I hope to walk that path again when there's been a clean-up, as the site isnt safe for me or my dogs at present. thePointerWalker
  • Score: 5

10:06pm Wed 28 May 14

binbag says...

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
binbag wrote:
getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
What a shame to think of those people living nearby, in their expensive mansions, having their normal quiet existence disrupted - my heart is breaking for them, lol!
There are no mansions near devils dyke. I live in a rented house in Poynings as there's no way I would ever be able to afford to buy anywhere! Why would you assume just because it's in the countryside everyone is rich
Property is not cheap in Poynings. You may well not be able to afford to buy in Brighton but the prices are much higher to buy where you live than in B&H, that is a fact.

I know the area very well and I know the prices of properties around there and I know there are a lot of very large houses or don't you call a property with 6 bedrooms plus large?
I don't call it a mansion! I can't afford to buy anywhere, not just Brighton.
[quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]binbag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: What a shame to think of those people living nearby, in their expensive mansions, having their normal quiet existence disrupted - my heart is breaking for them, lol![/p][/quote]There are no mansions near devils dyke. I live in a rented house in Poynings as there's no way I would ever be able to afford to buy anywhere! Why would you assume just because it's in the countryside everyone is rich[/p][/quote]Property is not cheap in Poynings. You may well not be able to afford to buy in Brighton but the prices are much higher to buy where you live than in B&H, that is a fact. I know the area very well and I know the prices of properties around there and I know there are a lot of very large houses or don't you call a property with 6 bedrooms plus large?[/p][/quote]I don't call it a mansion! I can't afford to buy anywhere, not just Brighton. binbag
  • Score: 0

10:29pm Wed 28 May 14

dingdong2 says...

The rave caused no problems to anyone - its only one weekend of the year and the people there have just as much right to have fun in the countryside as everyone else

I rather enjoyed my walk in the countryside with some music to accompany it.

Its no different to english heritage running classical musical events in the countryside - why should old people be allowed and young people not allowed any enjoyment.

There was no violence and absolutely no arrests for drink driving so the event was a peaceful success by all accounts
The rave caused no problems to anyone - its only one weekend of the year and the people there have just as much right to have fun in the countryside as everyone else I rather enjoyed my walk in the countryside with some music to accompany it. Its no different to english heritage running classical musical events in the countryside - why should old people be allowed and young people not allowed any enjoyment. There was no violence and absolutely no arrests for drink driving so the event was a peaceful success by all accounts dingdong2
  • Score: -1

8:08am Fri 6 Jun 14

We love Red Billy says...

raveonnnn wrote:
Your all sad old bags crying about a party need to get out your houses and have some fun for once in your little lives ! And just to make you smile you 'll be glad to know that all 2000 + people at the rave had an amazing time compared to the few of you who are upset about it :)
You had fun at other peoples expense scabby little fecker.
[quote][p][bold]raveonnnn[/bold] wrote: Your all sad old bags crying about a party need to get out your houses and have some fun for once in your little lives ! And just to make you smile you 'll be glad to know that all 2000 + people at the rave had an amazing time compared to the few of you who are upset about it :)[/p][/quote]You had fun at other peoples expense scabby little fecker. We love Red Billy
  • Score: 0

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