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Motorist caught driving 71mph in a 20mph zone

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A “STUPID” motorist was admitted speeding along a residential street at 71mph.

Car mechanic Nathan Townsend has become the first person to be convicted of breaking a 20mph limit in Brighton and Hove.

He admitted speeding along Elm Grove, Brighton, driving without due care and attention and driving a vehicle without an MOT at Brighton Magistrates’ Court yesterday.

Magistrates described his speeding as “off the scale” as they sentenced the 27-year-old, disqualifying him from driving for 28 days and ordered him to pay £183 in fines, a £20 victim surcharge and £85 in costs.

Townsend told the court: “I do apologise, it was very out of character and I can assure you that it will never happen again.”

Elm Grove, one of the steepest roads in Brighton, was incorporated into phase one of the roll-out of 20mph zones across the city in April last year.

Magistrate Sim Maddison said: “The 71mph is high Mr Townsend – that is off the scale.”

The court heard Townsend was driving a blue Ford Fiesta when he pulled away from traffic lights on Elm Grove at speed on November 26 at about 7.45pm.

Townsend was clocked driving at 71mph as he drove over two large 20mph signs on the road, followed by an unmarked police car.

The Fiesta’s MOT had expired four days before.

Townsend, of Brading Road, Brighton, previously had a clean license.

After the case Superintendent Jane Derrick said: “Nathan Townsend was driving at an unacceptable speed that put other road users and himself in danger.

“No one sensible could believe that driving at 71mph in a residential area, especially in such a busy city as Brighton, is anything other than stupid.

“Speed limits are there to keep people safe. The faster you drive, the more likely you are to be involved in an accident.

“Anyone who chooses to race around the streets should expect to be caught and punished.”

Councillor Bill Randall, whose ward includes Elm Grove, added: “Driving at 71 miles an hour in a domestic neighbourhood and in a road with a school and hospital on it is reckless and anti-social in the extreme.

“However, this case does confirm the need for a 20mph speed limit to encourage people to drive carefully and considerately in the city’s domestic areas, a fact that residents in the Surrenden Road recognised recently when they voted overwhelmingly for the introduction of a 20 mph limit in their neighbourhood.”

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5:29am Fri 30 May 14

twonk says...

The article says that this case proves that their is a need for a 20 mph zone. I'd have thought it proved that the zones are a waste of time as everyone ignores them.
The article says that this case proves that their is a need for a 20 mph zone. I'd have thought it proved that the zones are a waste of time as everyone ignores them. twonk
  • Score: 85

5:42am Fri 30 May 14

We love Red Billy says...

This chap is obviously a total gzunder.
This chap is obviously a total gzunder. We love Red Billy
  • Score: 33

5:46am Fri 30 May 14

esh lad says...

“However, this case does confirm the need for a 20mph speed limit to encourage people to drive carefully and considerately in the city’s domestic areas, a fact that residents in the Surrenden Road recognised recently when they voted overwhelmingly for the introduction of a 20 mph limit in their neighbourhood.”

When I hear the word "Overwhelmingly" in the context of voting by a Local Councillor or an MP,I become suspicious.
“However, this case does confirm the need for a 20mph speed limit to encourage people to drive carefully and considerately in the city’s domestic areas, a fact that residents in the Surrenden Road recognised recently when they voted overwhelmingly for the introduction of a 20 mph limit in their neighbourhood.” When I hear the word "Overwhelmingly" in the context of voting by a Local Councillor or an MP,I become suspicious. esh lad
  • Score: 29

6:28am Fri 30 May 14

Music Lover says...

71mph on Preston Road would be bad enough but on Elm Grove.....

He could have easily killed someone.

He should be in prison for 28 days not just banned.
71mph on Preston Road would be bad enough but on Elm Grove..... He could have easily killed someone. He should be in prison for 28 days not just banned. Music Lover
  • Score: 94

6:32am Fri 30 May 14

Fozborn says...

This is possibly the worst twisting of facts by a local councillor I have ever read about! Firstly let's get this right; the driver was a total tool driving at 71mph in a built up area. Even if the speed limit was 30 he whould have received a ban and rightly so.
The story though has nothing to do with the new 20 zone. It would only be a story about the zone if people were being fined or prosecuted for driving between 20-30mph. The whole policy is a farce. There has been no noticeable reduction in the speed of cars or buses. I still see buses wizz past my office doing 30mph+ in the 20 zone. That is what the Argus should be focussing on. The police clearly have no interest in nicking drivers doing under 30mph.
So Councillor Randall & the Argus please don't try and twist a story about a cretin doing 71mph to try and justify the £m's the council have wasted on this scheme.
As for Councillor Randall ; tick tock, tick tock. Your time is running out. Geez letting the Greens run the council is like letting a 4 year old run my household budget!
This is possibly the worst twisting of facts by a local councillor I have ever read about! Firstly let's get this right; the driver was a total tool driving at 71mph in a built up area. Even if the speed limit was 30 he whould have received a ban and rightly so. The story though has nothing to do with the new 20 zone. It would only be a story about the zone if people were being fined or prosecuted for driving between 20-30mph. The whole policy is a farce. There has been no noticeable reduction in the speed of cars or buses. I still see buses wizz past my office doing 30mph+ in the 20 zone. That is what the Argus should be focussing on. The police clearly have no interest in nicking drivers doing under 30mph. So Councillor Randall & the Argus please don't try and twist a story about a cretin doing 71mph to try and justify the £m's the council have wasted on this scheme. As for Councillor Randall ; tick tock, tick tock. Your time is running out. Geez letting the Greens run the council is like letting a 4 year old run my household budget! Fozborn
  • Score: 91

6:54am Fri 30 May 14

We love Red Billy says...

Don't worry, Red Billy Randal won't be standing at the next election so we won't have to listen to his inane braying beyond next May.
Don't worry, Red Billy Randal won't be standing at the next election so we won't have to listen to his inane braying beyond next May. We love Red Billy
  • Score: 29

7:23am Fri 30 May 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

What a silly comment from Mr Randall.
The incident shows the need for traffic enforcement and any speed limit is only of any use if it's enforced and the cops probably wouldn't have lifted the chap if he had been travelling at 30mph. The fact was he was absolutely hammering along and would have been nicked at 20,30 and 40 limits.
It was police traffic enforcement which also enabled the cos to establish that the car had no MoT.
Traffic enforcement by cops often picks up many other crimes being committed.
What a silly comment from Mr Randall. The incident shows the need for traffic enforcement and any speed limit is only of any use if it's enforced and the cops probably wouldn't have lifted the chap if he had been travelling at 30mph. The fact was he was absolutely hammering along and would have been nicked at 20,30 and 40 limits. It was police traffic enforcement which also enabled the cos to establish that the car had no MoT. Traffic enforcement by cops often picks up many other crimes being committed. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 37

7:43am Fri 30 May 14

jamie-hove says...

Only 28 days? utterly absurd. The 20mph zones are a brilliant idea and make the streets safer for everyone. It is time that we had more patrols out there to catch the motorists who decide to pick and choose which regulations thy wish to follow. If we fined more of them we could finally get more cycle lanes as well.
Only 28 days? utterly absurd. The 20mph zones are a brilliant idea and make the streets safer for everyone. It is time that we had more patrols out there to catch the motorists who decide to pick and choose which regulations thy wish to follow. If we fined more of them we could finally get more cycle lanes as well. jamie-hove
  • Score: -45

7:56am Fri 30 May 14

hoveguyactually says...

The 20 mph speed limit is right in certain places, particularly near a school, but in many cases it is totally inappropriate and unnecessary and only causes frustration to motorists where it is in place. In fact it could turn out to be more dangerous. A blanket limit of 20 mph for nearly the whole of Brighton & Hove is ludicrous and needs re-thinking.

Bill Randall should realise that there is a huge difference between 20 mph and 71 mph. Nevertheless the punishment is far too lenient for someone who is clearly a menace and should be imprisoned and not be allowed to drive for many years. He is lucky not to have killed or injured anyone.
The 20 mph speed limit is right in certain places, particularly near a school, but in many cases it is totally inappropriate and unnecessary and only causes frustration to motorists where it is in place. In fact it could turn out to be more dangerous. A blanket limit of 20 mph for nearly the whole of Brighton & Hove is ludicrous and needs re-thinking. Bill Randall should realise that there is a huge difference between 20 mph and 71 mph. Nevertheless the punishment is far too lenient for someone who is clearly a menace and should be imprisoned and not be allowed to drive for many years. He is lucky not to have killed or injured anyone. hoveguyactually
  • Score: 33

8:28am Fri 30 May 14

LB says...

28 days?

Is that really the best a magistrate can do for something that's "off the scale"?

If they don't have enough sentencing options they should have referred the case to a higher court because a 4 week ban is a pathetic punishment.
28 days? Is that really the best a magistrate can do for something that's "off the scale"? If they don't have enough sentencing options they should have referred the case to a higher court because a 4 week ban is a pathetic punishment. LB
  • Score: 56

8:31am Fri 30 May 14

HJarrs says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
The 20 mph speed limit is right in certain places, particularly near a school, but in many cases it is totally inappropriate and unnecessary and only causes frustration to motorists where it is in place. In fact it could turn out to be more dangerous. A blanket limit of 20 mph for nearly the whole of Brighton & Hove is ludicrous and needs re-thinking.

Bill Randall should realise that there is a huge difference between 20 mph and 71 mph. Nevertheless the punishment is far too lenient for someone who is clearly a menace and should be imprisoned and not be allowed to drive for many years. He is lucky not to have killed or injured anyone.
Elm Grove has a school and a hospital on it, yet some people continue to speed. Though it amazes me that it is apparently ok to speed through other urban streets where children and the ill may be crossing. There is also no blanket 20 mph limit and it is so unpopular that local residents successfully petitioned the council to have their streets included in the extended area.

However, though there has been some gentle enforcement by the police, it is high time they took enforcement of the 20 mph zone seriously and took some of the speeding idiots off the streets.
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: The 20 mph speed limit is right in certain places, particularly near a school, but in many cases it is totally inappropriate and unnecessary and only causes frustration to motorists where it is in place. In fact it could turn out to be more dangerous. A blanket limit of 20 mph for nearly the whole of Brighton & Hove is ludicrous and needs re-thinking. Bill Randall should realise that there is a huge difference between 20 mph and 71 mph. Nevertheless the punishment is far too lenient for someone who is clearly a menace and should be imprisoned and not be allowed to drive for many years. He is lucky not to have killed or injured anyone.[/p][/quote]Elm Grove has a school and a hospital on it, yet some people continue to speed. Though it amazes me that it is apparently ok to speed through other urban streets where children and the ill may be crossing. There is also no blanket 20 mph limit and it is so unpopular that local residents successfully petitioned the council to have their streets included in the extended area. However, though there has been some gentle enforcement by the police, it is high time they took enforcement of the 20 mph zone seriously and took some of the speeding idiots off the streets. HJarrs
  • Score: -5

9:03am Fri 30 May 14

hubby says...

I moved to Spain eleven years ago,having lived for 25 years in Whitehawk and 17 years in Saltdean.
I haven't been back even once,but I continue to watch from afar as the rights of Brightonians are either removed completely or taken control of by the nanny state.
Your opinions have to be watered down or they are censored,you re told what to say and when to say it and who it is allowed to be about.
20mph on Elm Grove is as ridiculous as 71mph.A 40mph limit with speed bumps at the school and hospital would be more than adequate.
You are sleepwalking towards a situation where none of you will be able to have any thoughts or opinions of your own.Nanny will do it all for you.
I moved to Spain eleven years ago,having lived for 25 years in Whitehawk and 17 years in Saltdean. I haven't been back even once,but I continue to watch from afar as the rights of Brightonians are either removed completely or taken control of by the nanny state. Your opinions have to be watered down or they are censored,you re told what to say and when to say it and who it is allowed to be about. 20mph on Elm Grove is as ridiculous as 71mph.A 40mph limit with speed bumps at the school and hospital would be more than adequate. You are sleepwalking towards a situation where none of you will be able to have any thoughts or opinions of your own.Nanny will do it all for you. hubby
  • Score: 21

9:04am Fri 30 May 14

Max Ripple says...

Firstly, the sentence handed down my the magistrate is ridiculously small for a crime that was "off the scale". He'd have got nearly as much if he'd been caught simply without an MOT.
Bill Randall's comment about it "shows the need for 20 mph" zones is a very stupid way of trying to justify the Greens 20 mph limit. This bloke would have broken the speed limit no matter what it was by going at 70. Unless of course, the limit on Elm Grove was 80 or something. People like him have absolutely no regard for speed limits of any kind and you can't legislate for that. I regularly see people driving at mad speeds of 40-50mph in Brighton and Hove. These ARE the people who need to be caught. They are the really dangerous ones. Not the people who stray over to 25- 30 etc. In fact having to keep glancing down at your speedo to try to keep a vehicle moving as slowly as 20 mph is also very dangerous. A driver cannot keep focussing on the road and what's around him/ her when they are more worried about breaking the speed limit than anything else. Some laws have unexpected downsides.
Firstly, the sentence handed down my the magistrate is ridiculously small for a crime that was "off the scale". He'd have got nearly as much if he'd been caught simply without an MOT. Bill Randall's comment about it "shows the need for 20 mph" zones is a very stupid way of trying to justify the Greens 20 mph limit. This bloke would have broken the speed limit no matter what it was by going at 70. Unless of course, the limit on Elm Grove was 80 or something. People like him have absolutely no regard for speed limits of any kind and you can't legislate for that. I regularly see people driving at mad speeds of 40-50mph in Brighton and Hove. These ARE the people who need to be caught. They are the really dangerous ones. Not the people who stray over to 25- 30 etc. In fact having to keep glancing down at your speedo to try to keep a vehicle moving as slowly as 20 mph is also very dangerous. A driver cannot keep focussing on the road and what's around him/ her when they are more worried about breaking the speed limit than anything else. Some laws have unexpected downsides. Max Ripple
  • Score: 27

9:34am Fri 30 May 14

pachallis says...

HJarrs wrote:
hoveguyactually wrote:
The 20 mph speed limit is right in certain places, particularly near a school, but in many cases it is totally inappropriate and unnecessary and only causes frustration to motorists where it is in place. In fact it could turn out to be more dangerous. A blanket limit of 20 mph for nearly the whole of Brighton & Hove is ludicrous and needs re-thinking.

Bill Randall should realise that there is a huge difference between 20 mph and 71 mph. Nevertheless the punishment is far too lenient for someone who is clearly a menace and should be imprisoned and not be allowed to drive for many years. He is lucky not to have killed or injured anyone.
Elm Grove has a school and a hospital on it, yet some people continue to speed. Though it amazes me that it is apparently ok to speed through other urban streets where children and the ill may be crossing. There is also no blanket 20 mph limit and it is so unpopular that local residents successfully petitioned the council to have their streets included in the extended area.

However, though there has been some gentle enforcement by the police, it is high time they took enforcement of the 20 mph zone seriously and took some of the speeding idiots off the streets.
I agree that the guy should have been banned for much longer than 28 days for doing 70 mph in either a 20 or 30 mph zone - I thought anything above 20% more than the speed limit was classed as dangerous driving and I hope he also has a lot of points added to his license. I guess he had a sob story about driving being necessary for his jobs and how a longer ban would impact his life-style - good thing he didn't kill anyone with his driving-style.

I also agree that Bill Randall must be living in another world - I suppose yet another chance for green-spin-speak...

However, the green led council introduced the 20 mph zones knowing full well that the police do not have the manpower to enforce it and so don't blame the police. The greens should have introduced proper traffic calming measures alongside the signage and introduced the relevant technology (i.e. speed cameras). As it was they took the low-cost, typically idealistic incompetent, option of just erecting small 20mph signs every 200 metres; painting blue 20 mph signs on the road surface (which implies a minimum speed limit!) and then just 'assuming' that everyone would follow Davey's master plan.

Having 20 mph zones outside schools and hospitals is a great idea - why didn't the greens start with that?

You are right though that their is no blanket 20mph zone - now! But that is what the greens really wanted and they had to do a U-turn as a result of pressure from motorists and as a result of the 'consultations' that they generally ignored. So in Hollingbury the green controlled transport committee decide that the main routes should stay 30mph and then a small group of residents were actually listened to!

BTW - if you came to Hove and Portslade you should see the green idiocy first-hand. See where 20mph zones end just before schools; 20 mph limits exist on main bus routes but 30mph on side roads leading off; and 30mph zones start at the beginning of cul-de-sacs.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: The 20 mph speed limit is right in certain places, particularly near a school, but in many cases it is totally inappropriate and unnecessary and only causes frustration to motorists where it is in place. In fact it could turn out to be more dangerous. A blanket limit of 20 mph for nearly the whole of Brighton & Hove is ludicrous and needs re-thinking. Bill Randall should realise that there is a huge difference between 20 mph and 71 mph. Nevertheless the punishment is far too lenient for someone who is clearly a menace and should be imprisoned and not be allowed to drive for many years. He is lucky not to have killed or injured anyone.[/p][/quote]Elm Grove has a school and a hospital on it, yet some people continue to speed. Though it amazes me that it is apparently ok to speed through other urban streets where children and the ill may be crossing. There is also no blanket 20 mph limit and it is so unpopular that local residents successfully petitioned the council to have their streets included in the extended area. However, though there has been some gentle enforcement by the police, it is high time they took enforcement of the 20 mph zone seriously and took some of the speeding idiots off the streets.[/p][/quote]I agree that the guy should have been banned for much longer than 28 days for doing 70 mph in either a 20 or 30 mph zone - I thought anything above 20% more than the speed limit was classed as dangerous driving and I hope he also has a lot of points added to his license. I guess he had a sob story about driving being necessary for his jobs and how a longer ban would impact his life-style - good thing he didn't kill anyone with his driving-style. I also agree that Bill Randall must be living in another world - I suppose yet another chance for green-spin-speak... However, the green led council introduced the 20 mph zones knowing full well that the police do not have the manpower to enforce it and so don't blame the police. The greens should have introduced proper traffic calming measures alongside the signage and introduced the relevant technology (i.e. speed cameras). As it was they took the low-cost, typically idealistic incompetent, option of just erecting small 20mph signs every 200 metres; painting blue 20 mph signs on the road surface (which implies a minimum speed limit!) and then just 'assuming' that everyone would follow Davey's master plan. Having 20 mph zones outside schools and hospitals is a great idea - why didn't the greens start with that? You are right though that their is no blanket 20mph zone - now! But that is what the greens really wanted and they had to do a U-turn as a result of pressure from motorists and as a result of the 'consultations' that they generally ignored. So in Hollingbury the green controlled transport committee decide that the main routes should stay 30mph and then a small group of residents were actually listened to! BTW - if you came to Hove and Portslade you should see the green idiocy first-hand. See where 20mph zones end just before schools; 20 mph limits exist on main bus routes but 30mph on side roads leading off; and 30mph zones start at the beginning of cul-de-sacs. pachallis
  • Score: 23

9:35am Fri 30 May 14

her professional says...

hubby wrote:
I moved to Spain eleven years ago,having lived for 25 years in Whitehawk and 17 years in Saltdean.
I haven't been back even once,but I continue to watch from afar as the rights of Brightonians are either removed completely or taken control of by the nanny state.
Your opinions have to be watered down or they are censored,you re told what to say and when to say it and who it is allowed to be about.
20mph on Elm Grove is as ridiculous as 71mph.A 40mph limit with speed bumps at the school and hospital would be more than adequate.
You are sleepwalking towards a situation where none of you will be able to have any thoughts or opinions of your own.Nanny will do it all for you.
I was in Southern Spain last year an a 20 KPH limit was common in the built up areas.
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: I moved to Spain eleven years ago,having lived for 25 years in Whitehawk and 17 years in Saltdean. I haven't been back even once,but I continue to watch from afar as the rights of Brightonians are either removed completely or taken control of by the nanny state. Your opinions have to be watered down or they are censored,you re told what to say and when to say it and who it is allowed to be about. 20mph on Elm Grove is as ridiculous as 71mph.A 40mph limit with speed bumps at the school and hospital would be more than adequate. You are sleepwalking towards a situation where none of you will be able to have any thoughts or opinions of your own.Nanny will do it all for you.[/p][/quote]I was in Southern Spain last year an a 20 KPH limit was common in the built up areas. her professional
  • Score: 19

9:45am Fri 30 May 14

cynic_the says...

This case perfectly sums up the utter pointlessness of the 20 mph limit for two reasons:

Firstly, the only reason this guy was caught was because he was spotted by an unmarked police car. If the money that's been wasted on the 20 signs had been spent on road policing, more dangerous drivers would have been caught and prosecuted in this way.

Secondly, the guy has basically been let off with a telling-off anyway. £300 fine and 28 day ban? Remind me what happens to you if you refuse to pay your council tax or tv license again? This sort of offence should attract a mandatory £1000 fine, and a lifetime driving ban. And that's coming from a 'Petrolhead-Clarkson
ista'.

I always find the '20mph limit is ok by schools' argument interesting though. I agree with this, but I live by a school, in the 20 zone, but I still see people driving past it at over 50mph about once a day, and an average speed of about 30-35.

More 20 signs needed? Meh. Maybe some actual enforcement would be better...?
This case perfectly sums up the utter pointlessness of the 20 mph limit for two reasons: Firstly, the only reason this guy was caught was because he was spotted by an unmarked police car. If the money that's been wasted on the 20 signs had been spent on road policing, more dangerous drivers would have been caught and prosecuted in this way. Secondly, the guy has basically been let off with a telling-off anyway. £300 fine and 28 day ban? Remind me what happens to you if you refuse to pay your council tax or tv license again? This sort of offence should attract a mandatory £1000 fine, and a lifetime driving ban. And that's coming from a 'Petrolhead-Clarkson ista'. I always find the '20mph limit is ok by schools' argument interesting though. I agree with this, but I live by a school, in the 20 zone, but I still see people driving past it at over 50mph about once a day, and an average speed of about 30-35. More 20 signs needed? Meh. Maybe some actual enforcement would be better...? cynic_the
  • Score: 14

9:46am Fri 30 May 14

PracticeNotTheories says...

28 days and £183 is a joke. It's obviously NOT taken seriously by the magistrate, even though it's 'off the scale'.
Traffic fines are worked out on a percentage scale. If you're doing 50% over the limit, you should get a serious fine, etc. so over 105mph on a motorway is a pretty major fine.
However, the 20mph speed limit is a 'local limit' and is not enforced by the highway code, and is likely also derided by magistrates.
If this was a 30mph limit (which it SHOULD be as it's a significant road, notwithstanding the school), it would fall under the standard guidelines, and he'd probably have got a more serious sentence.
This man was doing 3.5 times the speed limit. That's the equivalent of doing 248.5mph on a motorway (according to law). 'Guidelines' state £1000 fine and 90 days ban.
Thanks Greens!
28 days and £183 is a joke. It's obviously NOT taken seriously by the magistrate, even though it's 'off the scale'. Traffic fines are worked out on a percentage scale. If you're doing 50% over the limit, you should get a serious fine, etc. so over 105mph on a motorway is a pretty major fine. However, the 20mph speed limit is a 'local limit' and is not enforced by the highway code, and is likely also derided by magistrates. If this was a 30mph limit (which it SHOULD be as it's a significant road, notwithstanding the school), it would fall under the standard guidelines, and he'd probably have got a more serious sentence. This man was doing 3.5 times the speed limit. That's the equivalent of doing 248.5mph on a motorway (according to law). 'Guidelines' state £1000 fine and 90 days ban. Thanks Greens! PracticeNotTheories
  • Score: 12

9:57am Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

I'd love to know how many other vehicles were breaking the speed limit during that patrol.
I'd love to know how many other vehicles were breaking the speed limit during that patrol. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 6

10:04am Fri 30 May 14

pjwilk says...

Should be a 4yr ban and a prison sentence.
Should be a 4yr ban and a prison sentence. pjwilk
  • Score: 10

10:12am Fri 30 May 14

spa301 says...

This is crazy to link this to the 20 mph limit. He drove too fast for any road in the UK. He is a dangerous idiot.
As a previous comment says the true news would be if he'd been prosecuted for driving between 21-30mph.
This is crazy to link this to the 20 mph limit. He drove too fast for any road in the UK. He is a dangerous idiot. As a previous comment says the true news would be if he'd been prosecuted for driving between 21-30mph. spa301
  • Score: 21

10:15am Fri 30 May 14

Man of steel says...

He was only followed, and caught because the onboard car number recognition camera picked up that there was no MOT on the car, therefore no insurance, making it an easy nick, the speeding was an added bonus.
He was only followed, and caught because the onboard car number recognition camera picked up that there was no MOT on the car, therefore no insurance, making it an easy nick, the speeding was an added bonus. Man of steel
  • Score: 17

10:25am Fri 30 May 14

s&k says...

Clearly not a member of MENSA.
Clearly not a member of MENSA. s&k
  • Score: 9

10:28am Fri 30 May 14

JesterFeckwit says...

I've had the misfortune of meeting this guy on the road and think that his punishment for this crime is not nearly severe enough.
He charged up behind me whilst I was driving down Chesham Road in Kemp Town (near where I live) last year, flashing his lights and blasting his horn. When I stopped and signalled to him to slow down (parked cars meant he couldn't pass me) he got out of his car, came up to my driver's side window, shouted abuse and threats at me before getting back into his car (a light blue Peugeot 207CC), turning round and speeding off down the road in the other direction.
I noticed that he was wearing mechanic's overalls but didn't manage to spot a garage name. I felt deeply concerned by his actions so I thought I should to try and track down his employer and explain what had happened.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any evidence of him working at any of the local garages in Kemp Town and so gave up and just hoped he didn't actually injure anyone in future.
Now here I see him again, having been caught travelling at outrageous speeds on our city's residential streets (regardless of posted limit) and endangering other people, what a shame I couldn't locate his employer that day, maybe they could've curbed his behaviour.
This revolting individual appears to have no regard for the safety of others and I think he should have received a much heavier fine and much longer ban from driving. I also think his employer should sack him as I certainly wouldn’t want my vehicle to be the one that injures somebody whilst under the control of this violent moron.
Does anyone know where he works please?
I've had the misfortune of meeting this guy on the road and think that his punishment for this crime is not nearly severe enough. He charged up behind me whilst I was driving down Chesham Road in Kemp Town (near where I live) last year, flashing his lights and blasting his horn. When I stopped and signalled to him to slow down (parked cars meant he couldn't pass me) he got out of his car, came up to my driver's side window, shouted abuse and threats at me before getting back into his car (a light blue Peugeot 207CC), turning round and speeding off down the road in the other direction. I noticed that he was wearing mechanic's overalls but didn't manage to spot a garage name. I felt deeply concerned by his actions so I thought I should to try and track down his employer and explain what had happened. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any evidence of him working at any of the local garages in Kemp Town and so gave up and just hoped he didn't actually injure anyone in future. Now here I see him again, having been caught travelling at outrageous speeds on our city's residential streets (regardless of posted limit) and endangering other people, what a shame I couldn't locate his employer that day, maybe they could've curbed his behaviour. This revolting individual appears to have no regard for the safety of others and I think he should have received a much heavier fine and much longer ban from driving. I also think his employer should sack him as I certainly wouldn’t want my vehicle to be the one that injures somebody whilst under the control of this violent moron. Does anyone know where he works please? JesterFeckwit
  • Score: 29

10:45am Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

JesterFeckwit wrote:
I've had the misfortune of meeting this guy on the road and think that his punishment for this crime is not nearly severe enough.
He charged up behind me whilst I was driving down Chesham Road in Kemp Town (near where I live) last year, flashing his lights and blasting his horn. When I stopped and signalled to him to slow down (parked cars meant he couldn't pass me) he got out of his car, came up to my driver's side window, shouted abuse and threats at me before getting back into his car (a light blue Peugeot 207CC), turning round and speeding off down the road in the other direction.
I noticed that he was wearing mechanic's overalls but didn't manage to spot a garage name. I felt deeply concerned by his actions so I thought I should to try and track down his employer and explain what had happened.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any evidence of him working at any of the local garages in Kemp Town and so gave up and just hoped he didn't actually injure anyone in future.
Now here I see him again, having been caught travelling at outrageous speeds on our city's residential streets (regardless of posted limit) and endangering other people, what a shame I couldn't locate his employer that day, maybe they could've curbed his behaviour.
This revolting individual appears to have no regard for the safety of others and I think he should have received a much heavier fine and much longer ban from driving. I also think his employer should sack him as I certainly wouldn’t want my vehicle to be the one that injures somebody whilst under the control of this violent moron.
Does anyone know where he works please?
So he wasn't simply in a rush to get past you - he was chasing you for some reason.

Any idea what it was?
[quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: I've had the misfortune of meeting this guy on the road and think that his punishment for this crime is not nearly severe enough. He charged up behind me whilst I was driving down Chesham Road in Kemp Town (near where I live) last year, flashing his lights and blasting his horn. When I stopped and signalled to him to slow down (parked cars meant he couldn't pass me) he got out of his car, came up to my driver's side window, shouted abuse and threats at me before getting back into his car (a light blue Peugeot 207CC), turning round and speeding off down the road in the other direction. I noticed that he was wearing mechanic's overalls but didn't manage to spot a garage name. I felt deeply concerned by his actions so I thought I should to try and track down his employer and explain what had happened. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any evidence of him working at any of the local garages in Kemp Town and so gave up and just hoped he didn't actually injure anyone in future. Now here I see him again, having been caught travelling at outrageous speeds on our city's residential streets (regardless of posted limit) and endangering other people, what a shame I couldn't locate his employer that day, maybe they could've curbed his behaviour. This revolting individual appears to have no regard for the safety of others and I think he should have received a much heavier fine and much longer ban from driving. I also think his employer should sack him as I certainly wouldn’t want my vehicle to be the one that injures somebody whilst under the control of this violent moron. Does anyone know where he works please?[/p][/quote]So he wasn't simply in a rush to get past you - he was chasing you for some reason. Any idea what it was? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 2

10:53am Fri 30 May 14

Man of steel says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote:
I've had the misfortune of meeting this guy on the road and think that his punishment for this crime is not nearly severe enough.
He charged up behind me whilst I was driving down Chesham Road in Kemp Town (near where I live) last year, flashing his lights and blasting his horn. When I stopped and signalled to him to slow down (parked cars meant he couldn't pass me) he got out of his car, came up to my driver's side window, shouted abuse and threats at me before getting back into his car (a light blue Peugeot 207CC), turning round and speeding off down the road in the other direction.
I noticed that he was wearing mechanic's overalls but didn't manage to spot a garage name. I felt deeply concerned by his actions so I thought I should to try and track down his employer and explain what had happened.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any evidence of him working at any of the local garages in Kemp Town and so gave up and just hoped he didn't actually injure anyone in future.
Now here I see him again, having been caught travelling at outrageous speeds on our city's residential streets (regardless of posted limit) and endangering other people, what a shame I couldn't locate his employer that day, maybe they could've curbed his behaviour.
This revolting individual appears to have no regard for the safety of others and I think he should have received a much heavier fine and much longer ban from driving. I also think his employer should sack him as I certainly wouldn’t want my vehicle to be the one that injures somebody whilst under the control of this violent moron.
Does anyone know where he works please?
So he wasn't simply in a rush to get past you - he was chasing you for some reason.

Any idea what it was?
Just being curious, if the road was too narrow for him to get past, how did he manage to turn around and drive off in the opposite direction
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: I've had the misfortune of meeting this guy on the road and think that his punishment for this crime is not nearly severe enough. He charged up behind me whilst I was driving down Chesham Road in Kemp Town (near where I live) last year, flashing his lights and blasting his horn. When I stopped and signalled to him to slow down (parked cars meant he couldn't pass me) he got out of his car, came up to my driver's side window, shouted abuse and threats at me before getting back into his car (a light blue Peugeot 207CC), turning round and speeding off down the road in the other direction. I noticed that he was wearing mechanic's overalls but didn't manage to spot a garage name. I felt deeply concerned by his actions so I thought I should to try and track down his employer and explain what had happened. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any evidence of him working at any of the local garages in Kemp Town and so gave up and just hoped he didn't actually injure anyone in future. Now here I see him again, having been caught travelling at outrageous speeds on our city's residential streets (regardless of posted limit) and endangering other people, what a shame I couldn't locate his employer that day, maybe they could've curbed his behaviour. This revolting individual appears to have no regard for the safety of others and I think he should have received a much heavier fine and much longer ban from driving. I also think his employer should sack him as I certainly wouldn’t want my vehicle to be the one that injures somebody whilst under the control of this violent moron. Does anyone know where he works please?[/p][/quote]So he wasn't simply in a rush to get past you - he was chasing you for some reason. Any idea what it was?[/p][/quote]Just being curious, if the road was too narrow for him to get past, how did he manage to turn around and drive off in the opposite direction Man of steel
  • Score: 8

10:58am Fri 30 May 14

pachallis says...

@JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April:

'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta.

The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'.

Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus.
co.uk/news/11178781.
Brighton_mechanic_be
comes_first_driver_c
harged_with_speeding
_in_new_20mph_zones/
@JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/ pachallis
  • Score: 15

11:11am Fri 30 May 14

The Real Phil says...

What planet is the beak on? This person (I cannot call him a man) has no regard for anyone he may kill with his style of driving, and should have been given a ten year ban and a serious fine, not let off with a punishment he will be laughing at with the lads down the boozer.
What planet is the beak on? This person (I cannot call him a man) has no regard for anyone he may kill with his style of driving, and should have been given a ten year ban and a serious fine, not let off with a punishment he will be laughing at with the lads down the boozer. The Real Phil
  • Score: 19

11:14am Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Man of steel wrote:
He was only followed, and caught because the onboard car number recognition camera picked up that there was no MOT on the car, therefore no insurance, making it an easy nick, the speeding was an added bonus.
So at least two cars were able to drive at 70mph on that road with no difficulty.

It just shows how ludicrous the 20mph limit is there.
[quote][p][bold]Man of steel[/bold] wrote: He was only followed, and caught because the onboard car number recognition camera picked up that there was no MOT on the car, therefore no insurance, making it an easy nick, the speeding was an added bonus.[/p][/quote]So at least two cars were able to drive at 70mph on that road with no difficulty. It just shows how ludicrous the 20mph limit is there. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 7

11:22am Fri 30 May 14

Just trying to earn a crust says...

I cant see were the 20 limit comes into this. The guy was doing over 30 in a built up area and should be punished accordingly
I cant see were the 20 limit comes into this. The guy was doing over 30 in a built up area and should be punished accordingly Just trying to earn a crust
  • Score: 16

11:23am Fri 30 May 14

mtmoocher says...

This guy is clearly a danger to other road users & got off lightly. However, before I condemn him as a moron, I would acquaint myself with the verb, "license" and the noun, "licence."
This guy is clearly a danger to other road users & got off lightly. However, before I condemn him as a moron, I would acquaint myself with the verb, "license" and the noun, "licence." mtmoocher
  • Score: 9

11:29am Fri 30 May 14

spa301 says...

JesterFeckwit wrote:
I've had the misfortune of meeting this guy on the road and think that his punishment for this crime is not nearly severe enough.
He charged up behind me whilst I was driving down Chesham Road in Kemp Town (near where I live) last year, flashing his lights and blasting his horn. When I stopped and signalled to him to slow down (parked cars meant he couldn't pass me) he got out of his car, came up to my driver's side window, shouted abuse and threats at me before getting back into his car (a light blue Peugeot 207CC), turning round and speeding off down the road in the other direction.
I noticed that he was wearing mechanic's overalls but didn't manage to spot a garage name. I felt deeply concerned by his actions so I thought I should to try and track down his employer and explain what had happened.
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any evidence of him working at any of the local garages in Kemp Town and so gave up and just hoped he didn't actually injure anyone in future.
Now here I see him again, having been caught travelling at outrageous speeds on our city's residential streets (regardless of posted limit) and endangering other people, what a shame I couldn't locate his employer that day, maybe they could've curbed his behaviour.
This revolting individual appears to have no regard for the safety of others and I think he should have received a much heavier fine and much longer ban from driving. I also think his employer should sack him as I certainly wouldn’t want my vehicle to be the one that injures somebody whilst under the control of this violent moron.
Does anyone know where he works please?
JesterFeckwits experience kind of makes a mockery of Townsend's apparent contrition and blatant lie.

Townsend told the court: “I do apologise, it was very out of character and I can assure you that it will never happen again.”

The magistrate states his offence was 'off the scale' but then handed him a derisory fine and ban. I for one despair for our 'justice' system. Whatever became of common sense?
[quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: I've had the misfortune of meeting this guy on the road and think that his punishment for this crime is not nearly severe enough. He charged up behind me whilst I was driving down Chesham Road in Kemp Town (near where I live) last year, flashing his lights and blasting his horn. When I stopped and signalled to him to slow down (parked cars meant he couldn't pass me) he got out of his car, came up to my driver's side window, shouted abuse and threats at me before getting back into his car (a light blue Peugeot 207CC), turning round and speeding off down the road in the other direction. I noticed that he was wearing mechanic's overalls but didn't manage to spot a garage name. I felt deeply concerned by his actions so I thought I should to try and track down his employer and explain what had happened. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any evidence of him working at any of the local garages in Kemp Town and so gave up and just hoped he didn't actually injure anyone in future. Now here I see him again, having been caught travelling at outrageous speeds on our city's residential streets (regardless of posted limit) and endangering other people, what a shame I couldn't locate his employer that day, maybe they could've curbed his behaviour. This revolting individual appears to have no regard for the safety of others and I think he should have received a much heavier fine and much longer ban from driving. I also think his employer should sack him as I certainly wouldn’t want my vehicle to be the one that injures somebody whilst under the control of this violent moron. Does anyone know where he works please?[/p][/quote]JesterFeckwits experience kind of makes a mockery of Townsend's apparent contrition and blatant lie. Townsend told the court: “I do apologise, it was very out of character and I can assure you that it will never happen again.” The magistrate states his offence was 'off the scale' but then handed him a derisory fine and ban. I for one despair for our 'justice' system. Whatever became of common sense? spa301
  • Score: 15

12:08pm Fri 30 May 14

graham_Seagull says...

falrly typical comments about 20 zones -

The majority of residents want 20mph zones where they live but they dont want them where other residents live.

Sums up the selfishness of Brightonians.
falrly typical comments about 20 zones - The majority of residents want 20mph zones where they live but they dont want them where other residents live. Sums up the selfishness of Brightonians. graham_Seagull
  • Score: -12

12:50pm Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"JesterFeckwits experience kind of makes a mockery of Townsend's apparent contrition and blatant lie."

There is no evidence that Feckwit's incident actually happened, especially as his claims are implausible and contradictory.

Further, speed wasn't a factor in the alleged incident.
"JesterFeckwits experience kind of makes a mockery of Townsend's apparent contrition and blatant lie." There is no evidence that Feckwit's incident actually happened, especially as his claims are implausible and contradictory. Further, speed wasn't a factor in the alleged incident. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 0

1:38pm Fri 30 May 14

Goldenwight says...

I think some of the comments about Cllr Randall above are most unfair.

I regularly drive at over 70mph along roads which are clearly limited to 30mph with no regard to the danger to other road users/pedestrians etc. This is perfectly acceptable behaviour, and should not be punished in any way shape or form. But the mere presence of a big green circle with '20' in it painted on the road will immediately cause me to rethink my stupid ignorant arrogant behaviour and I will automatically slow down to below 20mph and pay very close attention to my surroundings and keeping a particular eye out for small children.

Some of those who have posted comments above clearly owe the Councillor an apology.
I think some of the comments about Cllr Randall above are most unfair. I regularly drive at over 70mph along roads which are clearly limited to 30mph with no regard to the danger to other road users/pedestrians etc. This is perfectly acceptable behaviour, and should not be punished in any way shape or form. But the mere presence of a big green circle with '20' in it painted on the road will immediately cause me to rethink my stupid ignorant arrogant behaviour and I will automatically slow down to below 20mph and pay very close attention to my surroundings and keeping a particular eye out for small children. Some of those who have posted comments above clearly owe the Councillor an apology. Goldenwight
  • Score: -4

2:02pm Fri 30 May 14

Withdean-er says...

Summed up by a BBC journalist this morning: Apart from the feck-everyone-else's
-safety wannabee Lewis Hamilton's amongst us, the 20mph zones slow much of traffic down from people doing 35mph, to say 25mph. That saves lives and reduces injuries in accidents, although that's a bitter pill for intransigent petrol-heads to swallow, and/or those who simply leave it so late to get anywhere, that speeding's their choice.
Summed up by a BBC journalist this morning: Apart from the feck-everyone-else's -safety wannabee Lewis Hamilton's amongst us, the 20mph zones slow much of traffic down from people doing 35mph, to say 25mph. That saves lives and reduces injuries in accidents, although that's a bitter pill for intransigent petrol-heads to swallow, and/or those who simply leave it so late to get anywhere, that speeding's their choice. Withdean-er
  • Score: 5

2:11pm Fri 30 May 14

hubby says...

her professional wrote:
hubby wrote:
I moved to Spain eleven years ago,having lived for 25 years in Whitehawk and 17 years in Saltdean.
I haven't been back even once,but I continue to watch from afar as the rights of Brightonians are either removed completely or taken control of by the nanny state.
Your opinions have to be watered down or they are censored,you re told what to say and when to say it and who it is allowed to be about.
20mph on Elm Grove is as ridiculous as 71mph.A 40mph limit with speed bumps at the school and hospital would be more than adequate.
You are sleepwalking towards a situation where none of you will be able to have any thoughts or opinions of your own.Nanny will do it all for you.
I was in Southern Spain last year an a 20 KPH limit was common in the built up areas.
I have lived here for eleven years and have only ever seen 20kph on a campsite road.
On main roads the limit has just been raised to 130kph.
[quote][p][bold]her professional[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: I moved to Spain eleven years ago,having lived for 25 years in Whitehawk and 17 years in Saltdean. I haven't been back even once,but I continue to watch from afar as the rights of Brightonians are either removed completely or taken control of by the nanny state. Your opinions have to be watered down or they are censored,you re told what to say and when to say it and who it is allowed to be about. 20mph on Elm Grove is as ridiculous as 71mph.A 40mph limit with speed bumps at the school and hospital would be more than adequate. You are sleepwalking towards a situation where none of you will be able to have any thoughts or opinions of your own.Nanny will do it all for you.[/p][/quote]I was in Southern Spain last year an a 20 KPH limit was common in the built up areas.[/p][/quote]I have lived here for eleven years and have only ever seen 20kph on a campsite road. On main roads the limit has just been raised to 130kph. hubby
  • Score: 1

2:17pm Fri 30 May 14

hubby says...

pachallis wrote:
@JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April:

'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta.

The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'.

Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus.

co.uk/news/11178781.

Brighton_mechanic_be

comes_first_driver_c

harged_with_speeding

_in_new_20mph_zones/
Just shows "You can't get quicker than a Kwik-Fit fitter."
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/[/p][/quote]Just shows "You can't get quicker than a Kwik-Fit fitter." hubby
  • Score: 16

2:47pm Fri 30 May 14

Gribbet says...

graham_Seagull wrote:
falrly typical comments about 20 zones -

The majority of residents want 20mph zones where they live but they dont want them where other residents live.

Sums up the selfishness of Brightonians.
Very true. I think it's a just whinging minority of Brightonians though (and Hovits's).
[quote][p][bold]graham_Seagull[/bold] wrote: falrly typical comments about 20 zones - The majority of residents want 20mph zones where they live but they dont want them where other residents live. Sums up the selfishness of Brightonians.[/p][/quote]Very true. I think it's a just whinging minority of Brightonians though (and Hovits's). Gribbet
  • Score: -5

2:47pm Fri 30 May 14

her professional says...

hubby wrote:
her professional wrote:
hubby wrote:
I moved to Spain eleven years ago,having lived for 25 years in Whitehawk and 17 years in Saltdean.
I haven't been back even once,but I continue to watch from afar as the rights of Brightonians are either removed completely or taken control of by the nanny state.
Your opinions have to be watered down or they are censored,you re told what to say and when to say it and who it is allowed to be about.
20mph on Elm Grove is as ridiculous as 71mph.A 40mph limit with speed bumps at the school and hospital would be more than adequate.
You are sleepwalking towards a situation where none of you will be able to have any thoughts or opinions of your own.Nanny will do it all for you.
I was in Southern Spain last year an a 20 KPH limit was common in the built up areas.
I have lived here for eleven years and have only ever seen 20kph on a campsite road.
On main roads the limit has just been raised to 130kph.
This was in residential/local shopping streets on an urbanisation around 20km east of Marbella..
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]her professional[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: I moved to Spain eleven years ago,having lived for 25 years in Whitehawk and 17 years in Saltdean. I haven't been back even once,but I continue to watch from afar as the rights of Brightonians are either removed completely or taken control of by the nanny state. Your opinions have to be watered down or they are censored,you re told what to say and when to say it and who it is allowed to be about. 20mph on Elm Grove is as ridiculous as 71mph.A 40mph limit with speed bumps at the school and hospital would be more than adequate. You are sleepwalking towards a situation where none of you will be able to have any thoughts or opinions of your own.Nanny will do it all for you.[/p][/quote]I was in Southern Spain last year an a 20 KPH limit was common in the built up areas.[/p][/quote]I have lived here for eleven years and have only ever seen 20kph on a campsite road. On main roads the limit has just been raised to 130kph.[/p][/quote]This was in residential/local shopping streets on an urbanisation around 20km east of Marbella.. her professional
  • Score: 3

2:50pm Fri 30 May 14

Nikski says...

He looks a bright chap I must say!
My god I think we may have found the missing link....knuckles, dragging etc
He looks a bright chap I must say! My god I think we may have found the missing link....knuckles, dragging etc Nikski
  • Score: 6

3:05pm Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Nikski wrote:
He looks a bright chap I must say!
My god I think we may have found the missing link....knuckles, dragging etc
He's hardly Neanderthal if he drive and work as a mechanic.
[quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: He looks a bright chap I must say! My god I think we may have found the missing link....knuckles, dragging etc[/p][/quote]He's hardly Neanderthal if he drive and work as a mechanic. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

3:05pm Fri 30 May 14

JesterFeckwit says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote: I've had the misfortune of meeting this guy on the road and think that his punishment for this crime is not nearly severe enough. He charged up behind me whilst I was driving down Chesham Road in Kemp Town (near where I live) last year, flashing his lights and blasting his horn. When I stopped and signalled to him to slow down (parked cars meant he couldn't pass me) he got out of his car, came up to my driver's side window, shouted abuse and threats at me before getting back into his car (a light blue Peugeot 207CC), turning round and speeding off down the road in the other direction. I noticed that he was wearing mechanic's overalls but didn't manage to spot a garage name. I felt deeply concerned by his actions so I thought I should to try and track down his employer and explain what had happened. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any evidence of him working at any of the local garages in Kemp Town and so gave up and just hoped he didn't actually injure anyone in future. Now here I see him again, having been caught travelling at outrageous speeds on our city's residential streets (regardless of posted limit) and endangering other people, what a shame I couldn't locate his employer that day, maybe they could've curbed his behaviour. This revolting individual appears to have no regard for the safety of others and I think he should have received a much heavier fine and much longer ban from driving. I also think his employer should sack him as I certainly wouldn’t want my vehicle to be the one that injures somebody whilst under the control of this violent moron. Does anyone know where he works please?
So he wasn't simply in a rush to get past you - he was chasing you for some reason. Any idea what it was?
Unfortunately I remember this incident well..
I had just turned left into Chesham Road from Chichester Place when I saw and heard a car racing towards the rear of my vehicle, flashing is lights and sounding its horn. I remember thinking at the time "where the hell did that come from?"
I imagine some of you will read this and assume I pulled out in front of him without looking but I can assure you this was not the case. Visibility at most of the junctions in this area is very poor because of all the parked cars and bins and there is very often pedestrians crossing the road between them. I looked both ways twice before pulling out, as I always do in this area (because not to would be reckless) and saw no sign off his vehicle, or any other.
I don't know from which road he turned onto Chesham Road but the only way that I can conceive that he caught up with me so quickly is that he was traveling at very high speed indeed!
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: I've had the misfortune of meeting this guy on the road and think that his punishment for this crime is not nearly severe enough. He charged up behind me whilst I was driving down Chesham Road in Kemp Town (near where I live) last year, flashing his lights and blasting his horn. When I stopped and signalled to him to slow down (parked cars meant he couldn't pass me) he got out of his car, came up to my driver's side window, shouted abuse and threats at me before getting back into his car (a light blue Peugeot 207CC), turning round and speeding off down the road in the other direction. I noticed that he was wearing mechanic's overalls but didn't manage to spot a garage name. I felt deeply concerned by his actions so I thought I should to try and track down his employer and explain what had happened. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any evidence of him working at any of the local garages in Kemp Town and so gave up and just hoped he didn't actually injure anyone in future. Now here I see him again, having been caught travelling at outrageous speeds on our city's residential streets (regardless of posted limit) and endangering other people, what a shame I couldn't locate his employer that day, maybe they could've curbed his behaviour. This revolting individual appears to have no regard for the safety of others and I think he should have received a much heavier fine and much longer ban from driving. I also think his employer should sack him as I certainly wouldn’t want my vehicle to be the one that injures somebody whilst under the control of this violent moron. Does anyone know where he works please?[/p][/quote]So he wasn't simply in a rush to get past you - he was chasing you for some reason. Any idea what it was?[/p][/quote]Unfortunately I remember this incident well.. I had just turned left into Chesham Road from Chichester Place when I saw and heard a car racing towards the rear of my vehicle, flashing is lights and sounding its horn. I remember thinking at the time "where the hell did that come from?" I imagine some of you will read this and assume I pulled out in front of him without looking but I can assure you this was not the case. Visibility at most of the junctions in this area is very poor because of all the parked cars and bins and there is very often pedestrians crossing the road between them. I looked both ways twice before pulling out, as I always do in this area (because not to would be reckless) and saw no sign off his vehicle, or any other. I don't know from which road he turned onto Chesham Road but the only way that I can conceive that he caught up with me so quickly is that he was traveling at very high speed indeed! JesterFeckwit
  • Score: 8

3:14pm Fri 30 May 14

JesterFeckwit says...

Man of steel wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote: I've had the misfortune of meeting this guy on the road and think that his punishment for this crime is not nearly severe enough. He charged up behind me whilst I was driving down Chesham Road in Kemp Town (near where I live) last year, flashing his lights and blasting his horn. When I stopped and signalled to him to slow down (parked cars meant he couldn't pass me) he got out of his car, came up to my driver's side window, shouted abuse and threats at me before getting back into his car (a light blue Peugeot 207CC), turning round and speeding off down the road in the other direction. I noticed that he was wearing mechanic's overalls but didn't manage to spot a garage name. I felt deeply concerned by his actions so I thought I should to try and track down his employer and explain what had happened. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any evidence of him working at any of the local garages in Kemp Town and so gave up and just hoped he didn't actually injure anyone in future. Now here I see him again, having been caught travelling at outrageous speeds on our city's residential streets (regardless of posted limit) and endangering other people, what a shame I couldn't locate his employer that day, maybe they could've curbed his behaviour. This revolting individual appears to have no regard for the safety of others and I think he should have received a much heavier fine and much longer ban from driving. I also think his employer should sack him as I certainly wouldn’t want my vehicle to be the one that injures somebody whilst under the control of this violent moron. Does anyone know where he works please?
So he wasn't simply in a rush to get past you - he was chasing you for some reason. Any idea what it was?
Just being curious, if the road was too narrow for him to get past, how did he manage to turn around and drive off in the opposite direction
Once I had applied my handbrake and given him my best "and now what?" look, he must've realised that I wasn't going anywhere (I wasn't in any rush) and that it would be unwise to take things further as there were other people around and I don't exactly look like I'd be easily intimidated anyway.
He got back in the car, reversed at high speed down Chesham Road and then turned left up St Mark's Street.
[quote][p][bold]Man of steel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: I've had the misfortune of meeting this guy on the road and think that his punishment for this crime is not nearly severe enough. He charged up behind me whilst I was driving down Chesham Road in Kemp Town (near where I live) last year, flashing his lights and blasting his horn. When I stopped and signalled to him to slow down (parked cars meant he couldn't pass me) he got out of his car, came up to my driver's side window, shouted abuse and threats at me before getting back into his car (a light blue Peugeot 207CC), turning round and speeding off down the road in the other direction. I noticed that he was wearing mechanic's overalls but didn't manage to spot a garage name. I felt deeply concerned by his actions so I thought I should to try and track down his employer and explain what had happened. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any evidence of him working at any of the local garages in Kemp Town and so gave up and just hoped he didn't actually injure anyone in future. Now here I see him again, having been caught travelling at outrageous speeds on our city's residential streets (regardless of posted limit) and endangering other people, what a shame I couldn't locate his employer that day, maybe they could've curbed his behaviour. This revolting individual appears to have no regard for the safety of others and I think he should have received a much heavier fine and much longer ban from driving. I also think his employer should sack him as I certainly wouldn’t want my vehicle to be the one that injures somebody whilst under the control of this violent moron. Does anyone know where he works please?[/p][/quote]So he wasn't simply in a rush to get past you - he was chasing you for some reason. Any idea what it was?[/p][/quote]Just being curious, if the road was too narrow for him to get past, how did he manage to turn around and drive off in the opposite direction[/p][/quote]Once I had applied my handbrake and given him my best "and now what?" look, he must've realised that I wasn't going anywhere (I wasn't in any rush) and that it would be unwise to take things further as there were other people around and I don't exactly look like I'd be easily intimidated anyway. He got back in the car, reversed at high speed down Chesham Road and then turned left up St Mark's Street. JesterFeckwit
  • Score: 4

3:17pm Fri 30 May 14

JesterFeckwit says...

pachallis wrote:
@JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/
Thanks, I found that article earlier as well.
I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road.
I feel a visit to management might be in order!
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/[/p][/quote]Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order! JesterFeckwit
  • Score: 7

3:22pm Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

JesterFeckwit wrote:
pachallis wrote:
@JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/
Thanks, I found that article earlier as well.
I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road.
I feel a visit to management might be in order!
Why?
[quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/[/p][/quote]Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order![/p][/quote]Why? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

3:24pm Fri 30 May 14

pachallis says...

Withdean-er wrote:
Summed up by a BBC journalist this morning: Apart from the feck-everyone-else's

-safety wannabee Lewis Hamilton's amongst us, the 20mph zones slow much of traffic down from people doing 35mph, to say 25mph. That saves lives and reduces injuries in accidents, although that's a bitter pill for intransigent petrol-heads to swallow, and/or those who simply leave it so late to get anywhere, that speeding's their choice.
@Withdean-er - agreed but a pedantry point - displayed speed limits are that - they are, by law, a limit not a target.

Even the council officials admitted though, that the target for the 20 mph zones was to get AVERAGE speeds down below 25 mph. So there is no point to enforcing the 20 mph speed limits - they were never meant to be enforced! Hence also the introduction of those flashing speed check signs - to just remind you to slow down.

Lets hope that the greens botched cheap-skate attempt at speed limiting does actually work and they do lead to less accidents and lower emissions. Unfortunately, AFAIK, the council has no statistics in the city to back their claims. If there are any I'd really like to see them.

The introduction of speed limits without clear signage; sufficient traffic calming; and penalties for exceeding limits (i.e. carrot and stick) was doomed to failure. Some people will just ignore them and carry on driving as they always do. Of course start fining drivers who exceed and the motorists start complaining that it is 'so unfair' - bit like little kids.

What we need is for the speed limits to be treated as such, for proper traffic calming and signage to be put in place (sorry - this does cost money) and for proper enforcement by use of speed cameras at significant points - especially outside schools and by shopping areas.

BTW - using terms such as petrol-heads to insult motorists doesn't help either - I know it just irritates me. Look at all the arrogant cyclists who now think the responsibility, obeying the highway code and obeying road signs doesn't apply to them because sanctimonious Davey says so and he just wants to encourage more untrained cyclists on to the roads.

We all have to use the roads responsibly.
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: Summed up by a BBC journalist this morning: Apart from the feck-everyone-else's -safety wannabee Lewis Hamilton's amongst us, the 20mph zones slow much of traffic down from people doing 35mph, to say 25mph. That saves lives and reduces injuries in accidents, although that's a bitter pill for intransigent petrol-heads to swallow, and/or those who simply leave it so late to get anywhere, that speeding's their choice.[/p][/quote]@Withdean-er - agreed but a pedantry point - displayed speed limits are that - they are, by law, a limit not a target. Even the council officials admitted though, that the target for the 20 mph zones was to get AVERAGE speeds down below 25 mph. So there is no point to enforcing the 20 mph speed limits - they were never meant to be enforced! Hence also the introduction of those flashing speed check signs - to just remind you to slow down. Lets hope that the greens botched cheap-skate attempt at speed limiting does actually work and they do lead to less accidents and lower emissions. Unfortunately, AFAIK, the council has no statistics in the city to back their claims. If there are any I'd really like to see them. The introduction of speed limits without clear signage; sufficient traffic calming; and penalties for exceeding limits (i.e. carrot and stick) was doomed to failure. Some people will just ignore them and carry on driving as they always do. Of course start fining drivers who exceed and the motorists start complaining that it is 'so unfair' - bit like little kids. What we need is for the speed limits to be treated as such, for proper traffic calming and signage to be put in place (sorry - this does cost money) and for proper enforcement by use of speed cameras at significant points - especially outside schools and by shopping areas. BTW - using terms such as petrol-heads to insult motorists doesn't help either - I know it just irritates me. Look at all the arrogant cyclists who now think the responsibility, obeying the highway code and obeying road signs doesn't apply to them because sanctimonious Davey says so and he just wants to encourage more untrained cyclists on to the roads. We all have to use the roads responsibly. pachallis
  • Score: 8

3:25pm Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"Once I had applied my handbrake and given him my best "and now what?" look, he must've realised that I wasn't going anywhere (I wasn't in any rush) and that it would be unwise to take things further as there were other people around and I don't exactly look like I'd be easily intimidated anyway.
He got back in the car, reversed at high speed down Chesham Road and then turned left up St Mark's Street."

So in your first version, he turned the car around, but in the second he reversed down it.

You still haven't explained why he was chasing you. He plainly felt better after saying his piece, and returned to his car.
"Once I had applied my handbrake and given him my best "and now what?" look, he must've realised that I wasn't going anywhere (I wasn't in any rush) and that it would be unwise to take things further as there were other people around and I don't exactly look like I'd be easily intimidated anyway. He got back in the car, reversed at high speed down Chesham Road and then turned left up St Mark's Street." So in your first version, he turned the car around, but in the second he reversed down it. You still haven't explained why he was chasing you. He plainly felt better after saying his piece, and returned to his car. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -10

3:29pm Fri 30 May 14

JesterFeckwit says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
"JesterFeckwits experience kind of makes a mockery of Townsend's apparent contrition and blatant lie." There is no evidence that Feckwit's incident actually happened, especially as his claims are implausible and contradictory. Further, speed wasn't a factor in the alleged incident.
I can assure you that this incident did occur, the guy who verbally abused me through my car window is the one shown in the photo that accompanies this story (which I stumbled across by accident), I have no reason to make this sorry tale up, there was at least one witness to the altercation (a man standing outside the aquarium shop, who when I approached him afterwards stated that he didn't want to be involved) and I'd welcome the opportunity to repeat any or all of this to the police and / or a court of law if anyone asked me to.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: "JesterFeckwits experience kind of makes a mockery of Townsend's apparent contrition and blatant lie." There is no evidence that Feckwit's incident actually happened, especially as his claims are implausible and contradictory. Further, speed wasn't a factor in the alleged incident.[/p][/quote]I can assure you that this incident did occur, the guy who verbally abused me through my car window is the one shown in the photo that accompanies this story (which I stumbled across by accident), I have no reason to make this sorry tale up, there was at least one witness to the altercation (a man standing outside the aquarium shop, who when I approached him afterwards stated that he didn't want to be involved) and I'd welcome the opportunity to repeat any or all of this to the police and / or a court of law if anyone asked me to. JesterFeckwit
  • Score: 6

3:31pm Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

JesterFeckwit wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
"JesterFeckwits experience kind of makes a mockery of Townsend's apparent contrition and blatant lie." There is no evidence that Feckwit's incident actually happened, especially as his claims are implausible and contradictory. Further, speed wasn't a factor in the alleged incident.
I can assure you that this incident did occur, the guy who verbally abused me through my car window is the one shown in the photo that accompanies this story (which I stumbled across by accident), I have no reason to make this sorry tale up, there was at least one witness to the altercation (a man standing outside the aquarium shop, who when I approached him afterwards stated that he didn't want to be involved) and I'd welcome the opportunity to repeat any or all of this to the police and / or a court of law if anyone asked me to.
So why was the chasing you?

That's the third time I've asked that question.
[quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: "JesterFeckwits experience kind of makes a mockery of Townsend's apparent contrition and blatant lie." There is no evidence that Feckwit's incident actually happened, especially as his claims are implausible and contradictory. Further, speed wasn't a factor in the alleged incident.[/p][/quote]I can assure you that this incident did occur, the guy who verbally abused me through my car window is the one shown in the photo that accompanies this story (which I stumbled across by accident), I have no reason to make this sorry tale up, there was at least one witness to the altercation (a man standing outside the aquarium shop, who when I approached him afterwards stated that he didn't want to be involved) and I'd welcome the opportunity to repeat any or all of this to the police and / or a court of law if anyone asked me to.[/p][/quote]So why was the chasing you? That's the third time I've asked that question. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -8

3:40pm Fri 30 May 14

JesterFeckwit says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote:
pachallis wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/
Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order!
Why?
Because I suspect the vehicle he was driving wasn't his (a 207CC doesn't really seem like him does it?) and as such he was driving a customer's car recklessly and verbally abusing other road users whilst on company business.
I think they should know that his more recent speeding conviction was not an isolated, out of character incident but perhaps evidence of his normal behaviour whilst driving.
Would you want your vehicle to be driven by him?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/[/p][/quote]Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order![/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]Because I suspect the vehicle he was driving wasn't his (a 207CC doesn't really seem like him does it?) and as such he was driving a customer's car recklessly and verbally abusing other road users whilst on company business. I think they should know that his more recent speeding conviction was not an isolated, out of character incident but perhaps evidence of his normal behaviour whilst driving. Would you want your vehicle to be driven by him? JesterFeckwit
  • Score: 12

3:47pm Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

JesterFeckwit wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote:
pachallis wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/
Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order!
Why?
Because I suspect the vehicle he was driving wasn't his (a 207CC doesn't really seem like him does it?) and as such he was driving a customer's car recklessly and verbally abusing other road users whilst on company business.
I think they should know that his more recent speeding conviction was not an isolated, out of character incident but perhaps evidence of his normal behaviour whilst driving.
Would you want your vehicle to be driven by him?
You have no idea whose car it was, and it's none of your business either. It certainly wasn't being driven at excessive speed.

He drove his own car at 70 mph, which is a reasonable speed for any car to achieve.

You still haven't told us why he was chasing you. Shall we just accept that YOUR lousy driving was to blame for the earlier incident? I do hope he points that out on your visit to Kwikfit.
[quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/[/p][/quote]Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order![/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]Because I suspect the vehicle he was driving wasn't his (a 207CC doesn't really seem like him does it?) and as such he was driving a customer's car recklessly and verbally abusing other road users whilst on company business. I think they should know that his more recent speeding conviction was not an isolated, out of character incident but perhaps evidence of his normal behaviour whilst driving. Would you want your vehicle to be driven by him?[/p][/quote]You have no idea whose car it was, and it's none of your business either. It certainly wasn't being driven at excessive speed. He drove his own car at 70 mph, which is a reasonable speed for any car to achieve. You still haven't told us why he was chasing you. Shall we just accept that YOUR lousy driving was to blame for the earlier incident? I do hope he points that out on your visit to Kwikfit. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -16

3:48pm Fri 30 May 14

PracticeNotTheories says...

I don't think the 20mph is the issue here. This road should (generally) have a 30mph limit, and speed humps or traffic calming of some nature at the school.

Doing 71mph is ridiculous, even along Madeira drive, so he should be convicted against that.

On the side of emissions, it has been proven by scientific tests (reference the AA, RAC, amongst others) that a 20mph limit puts emissions UP versus a 30mph limit, so please stop using that as an invalid argument.
I don't think the 20mph is the issue here. This road should (generally) have a 30mph limit, and speed humps or traffic calming of some nature at the school. Doing 71mph is ridiculous, even along Madeira drive, so he should be convicted against that. On the side of emissions, it has been proven by scientific tests (reference the AA, RAC, amongst others) that a 20mph limit puts emissions UP versus a 30mph limit, so please stop using that as an invalid argument. PracticeNotTheories
  • Score: 8

3:50pm Fri 30 May 14

JesterFeckwit says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
"Once I had applied my handbrake and given him my best "and now what?" look, he must've realised that I wasn't going anywhere (I wasn't in any rush) and that it would be unwise to take things further as there were other people around and I don't exactly look like I'd be easily intimidated anyway. He got back in the car, reversed at high speed down Chesham Road and then turned left up St Mark's Street." So in your first version, he turned the car around, but in the second he reversed down it. You still haven't explained why he was chasing you. He plainly felt better after saying his piece, and returned to his car.
Yeah, OK, he went the other way down the road backwards and I don't really know that he was chasing me, it makes no sense to me at all but then I'm not a mindless thug, so you'd probably have to ask him that.
Maybe he did, I don't really care but I am glad to hear he has received some much deserved punishment, however inadequate it might have been.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: "Once I had applied my handbrake and given him my best "and now what?" look, he must've realised that I wasn't going anywhere (I wasn't in any rush) and that it would be unwise to take things further as there were other people around and I don't exactly look like I'd be easily intimidated anyway. He got back in the car, reversed at high speed down Chesham Road and then turned left up St Mark's Street." So in your first version, he turned the car around, but in the second he reversed down it. You still haven't explained why he was chasing you. He plainly felt better after saying his piece, and returned to his car.[/p][/quote]Yeah, OK, he went the other way down the road backwards and I don't really know that he was chasing me, it makes no sense to me at all but then I'm not a mindless thug, so you'd probably have to ask him that. Maybe he did, I don't really care but I am glad to hear he has received some much deserved punishment, however inadequate it might have been. JesterFeckwit
  • Score: 9

3:54pm Fri 30 May 14

JesterFeckwit says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote:
pachallis wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/
Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order!
Why?
Because I suspect the vehicle he was driving wasn't his (a 207CC doesn't really seem like him does it?) and as such he was driving a customer's car recklessly and verbally abusing other road users whilst on company business. I think they should know that his more recent speeding conviction was not an isolated, out of character incident but perhaps evidence of his normal behaviour whilst driving. Would you want your vehicle to be driven by him?
You have no idea whose car it was, and it's none of your business either. It certainly wasn't being driven at excessive speed. He drove his own car at 70 mph, which is a reasonable speed for any car to achieve. You still haven't told us why he was chasing you. Shall we just accept that YOUR lousy driving was to blame for the earlier incident? I do hope he points that out on your visit to Kwikfit.
Oh sorry, I thought you were a reasonable but curious person but I see now that's not the case, I don't think I'll be bothering to respond to your comments any further ZeeGee.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/[/p][/quote]Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order![/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]Because I suspect the vehicle he was driving wasn't his (a 207CC doesn't really seem like him does it?) and as such he was driving a customer's car recklessly and verbally abusing other road users whilst on company business. I think they should know that his more recent speeding conviction was not an isolated, out of character incident but perhaps evidence of his normal behaviour whilst driving. Would you want your vehicle to be driven by him?[/p][/quote]You have no idea whose car it was, and it's none of your business either. It certainly wasn't being driven at excessive speed. He drove his own car at 70 mph, which is a reasonable speed for any car to achieve. You still haven't told us why he was chasing you. Shall we just accept that YOUR lousy driving was to blame for the earlier incident? I do hope he points that out on your visit to Kwikfit.[/p][/quote]Oh sorry, I thought you were a reasonable but curious person but I see now that's not the case, I don't think I'll be bothering to respond to your comments any further ZeeGee. JesterFeckwit
  • Score: 8

3:58pm Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

" I don't really know that he was chasing me"

Really?

You told us:

" He charged up behind me whilst I was driving down Chesham Road in Kemp Town (near where I live) last year, flashing his lights and blasting his horn. "

and that he wasn't intending proceeding any further in that direction:

"speeding off down the road in the other direction."

You also know that he was angry at you:

" he got out of his car, came up to my driver's side window, shouted abuse and threats at me before getting back into his car "

So, you've told us that he was chasing you and that he had had no intention to travel down that road in that direction prior to you coming into his life.

You now claim not to have seen him until he appeared in your mirror flashing his lights. You still won't tell us why he shouted, but the signs are that YOU failed to see him whilst entering a road and that YOU were almost responsible for causing an RTA.
" I don't really know that he was chasing me" Really? You told us: " He charged up behind me whilst I was driving down Chesham Road in Kemp Town (near where I live) last year, flashing his lights and blasting his horn. " and that he wasn't intending proceeding any further in that direction: "speeding off down the road in the other direction." You also know that he was angry at you: " he got out of his car, came up to my driver's side window, shouted abuse and threats at me before getting back into his car " So, you've told us that he was chasing you and that he had had no intention to travel down that road in that direction prior to you coming into his life. You now claim not to have seen him until he appeared in your mirror flashing his lights. You still won't tell us why he shouted, but the signs are that YOU failed to see him whilst entering a road and that YOU were almost responsible for causing an RTA. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -17

4:01pm Fri 30 May 14

spa301 says...

I am curious why ZeeGee has such an issue with Jesterfeckwits account of an earlier encounter with the speeding moron.
You're not perhaps Nathan Townsend or one of his friends are you?
I am curious why ZeeGee has such an issue with Jesterfeckwits account of an earlier encounter with the speeding moron. You're not perhaps Nathan Townsend or one of his friends are you? spa301
  • Score: 14

4:04pm Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

spa301 wrote:
I am curious why ZeeGee has such an issue with Jesterfeckwits account of an earlier encounter with the speeding moron.
You're not perhaps Nathan Townsend or one of his friends are you?
It should be obvious why I'm querying his account, so if I were to point out why, I'm not convinced you'd understand my response.
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: I am curious why ZeeGee has such an issue with Jesterfeckwits account of an earlier encounter with the speeding moron. You're not perhaps Nathan Townsend or one of his friends are you?[/p][/quote]It should be obvious why I'm querying his account, so if I were to point out why, I'm not convinced you'd understand my response. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -16

4:06pm Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"Oh sorry, I thought you were a reasonable but curious person but I see now that's not the case, I don't think I'll be bothering to respond to your comments any further ZeeGee."

That's fine by me.

I've exposed you as a liar and as someone I'd rather not encounter on the road.
"Oh sorry, I thought you were a reasonable but curious person but I see now that's not the case, I don't think I'll be bothering to respond to your comments any further ZeeGee." That's fine by me. I've exposed you as a liar and as someone I'd rather not encounter on the road. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -15

4:08pm Fri 30 May 14

s&k says...

There's a lot to be said for Medieval social punishment/humiliati
on - bring back the stocks and we can pelt him with rotten fruit!
There's a lot to be said for Medieval social punishment/humiliati on - bring back the stocks and we can pelt him with rotten fruit! s&k
  • Score: 6

4:10pm Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

spa301 wrote:
I am curious why ZeeGee has such an issue with Jesterfeckwits account of an earlier encounter with the speeding moron.
You're not perhaps Nathan Townsend or one of his friends are you?
If I were him, don't you think I'd be explaining why I chased after Feckwit that day?

Jeez......comprehens
ion isn't your forte, is it?
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: I am curious why ZeeGee has such an issue with Jesterfeckwits account of an earlier encounter with the speeding moron. You're not perhaps Nathan Townsend or one of his friends are you?[/p][/quote]If I were him, don't you think I'd be explaining why I chased after Feckwit that day? Jeez......comprehens ion isn't your forte, is it? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -16

4:32pm Fri 30 May 14

spa301 says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
spa301 wrote:
I am curious why ZeeGee has such an issue with Jesterfeckwits account of an earlier encounter with the speeding moron.
You're not perhaps Nathan Townsend or one of his friends are you?
If I were him, don't you think I'd be explaining why I chased after Feckwit that day?

Jeez......comprehens

ion isn't your forte, is it?
you certainly sound stupid enough to be him.............jeez
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: I am curious why ZeeGee has such an issue with Jesterfeckwits account of an earlier encounter with the speeding moron. You're not perhaps Nathan Townsend or one of his friends are you?[/p][/quote]If I were him, don't you think I'd be explaining why I chased after Feckwit that day? Jeez......comprehens ion isn't your forte, is it?[/p][/quote]you certainly sound stupid enough to be him.............jeez spa301
  • Score: 16

5:16pm Fri 30 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"you certainly sound stupid enough to be him" says poster who asked for my posts to be explained to him.

*facepalm*
"you certainly sound stupid enough to be him" says poster who asked for my posts to be explained to him. *facepalm* ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -13

6:14pm Fri 30 May 14

whatevernext2013 says...

what gets me is only a 28 day driving ban for doing 51 mph over the speed limit ,surely his sentence has to be looked at for been to far too soft
what gets me is only a 28 day driving ban for doing 51 mph over the speed limit ,surely his sentence has to be looked at for been to far too soft whatevernext2013
  • Score: 9

6:37pm Fri 30 May 14

Nikski says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Nikski wrote:
He looks a bright chap I must say!
My god I think we may have found the missing link....knuckles, dragging etc
He's hardly Neanderthal if he drive and work as a mechanic.
I thought it was Kwik-fit policy to only employ Neanderthals.......s
ee what you mean though, his driving skills are obvious and I know it's not easy to change a tyre!
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: He looks a bright chap I must say! My god I think we may have found the missing link....knuckles, dragging etc[/p][/quote]He's hardly Neanderthal if he drive and work as a mechanic.[/p][/quote]I thought it was Kwik-fit policy to only employ Neanderthals.......s ee what you mean though, his driving skills are obvious and I know it's not easy to change a tyre! Nikski
  • Score: 7

6:58pm Fri 30 May 14

Webley says...

A 28 day ban sums it up. Speeding in residential areas is not a priority for the anyone. This is front page news on a slow news day. There are many many drivers across Sussex this afternoon speeding through residential areas on the way home. The Police focus on the safest roads Motorways and Dual Carriageways. MP's will only take notice when someone dies, otherwise its a letter to Highways who are equally happy to quote road design regulations at you.
You could give up your time with a speed check volunteer team and get abused by charmers like this if you like. Or just hope against hope it isn't someone you love that is maimed or killed. Forget the ban give him his licence and let him drive to a disability centre and help out for a few weeks.
A 28 day ban sums it up. Speeding in residential areas is not a priority for the anyone. This is front page news on a slow news day. There are many many drivers across Sussex this afternoon speeding through residential areas on the way home. The Police focus on the safest roads Motorways and Dual Carriageways. MP's will only take notice when someone dies, otherwise its a letter to Highways who are equally happy to quote road design regulations at you. You could give up your time with a speed check volunteer team and get abused by charmers like this if you like. Or just hope against hope it isn't someone you love that is maimed or killed. Forget the ban give him his licence and let him drive to a disability centre and help out for a few weeks. Webley
  • Score: 2

7:33pm Fri 30 May 14

melee says...

Seems unfair to me. What have disabled people done to deserve that?
Seems unfair to me. What have disabled people done to deserve that? melee
  • Score: 5

7:38pm Fri 30 May 14

ghost bus driver says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
The 20 mph speed limit is right in certain places, particularly near a school, but in many cases it is totally inappropriate and unnecessary and only causes frustration to motorists where it is in place. In fact it could turn out to be more dangerous. A blanket limit of 20 mph for nearly the whole of Brighton & Hove is ludicrous and needs re-thinking.

Bill Randall should realise that there is a huge difference between 20 mph and 71 mph. Nevertheless the punishment is far too lenient for someone who is clearly a menace and should be imprisoned and not be allowed to drive for many years. He is lucky not to have killed or injured anyone.
There is a school up Elm Grove so maybe outside and 100 yards down the hill running up to the current end by the top of Freshfield Road to take in the hospital there. I don't think it should go straight from 40 to 20 though, perhaps a length of 30mph in between.

Also if a ban is less than 56 days the court stamps your license and gives it back to you, you are still not permitted to drive in that time but you don't have to re-apply when the ban ends.
Since this individual was doing more than three times the limit he should really have been banned for a year to 18 months and had to re-take his test.
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: The 20 mph speed limit is right in certain places, particularly near a school, but in many cases it is totally inappropriate and unnecessary and only causes frustration to motorists where it is in place. In fact it could turn out to be more dangerous. A blanket limit of 20 mph for nearly the whole of Brighton & Hove is ludicrous and needs re-thinking. Bill Randall should realise that there is a huge difference between 20 mph and 71 mph. Nevertheless the punishment is far too lenient for someone who is clearly a menace and should be imprisoned and not be allowed to drive for many years. He is lucky not to have killed or injured anyone.[/p][/quote]There is a school up Elm Grove so maybe outside and 100 yards down the hill running up to the current end by the top of Freshfield Road to take in the hospital there. I don't think it should go straight from 40 to 20 though, perhaps a length of 30mph in between. Also if a ban is less than 56 days the court stamps your license and gives it back to you, you are still not permitted to drive in that time but you don't have to re-apply when the ban ends. Since this individual was doing more than three times the limit he should really have been banned for a year to 18 months and had to re-take his test. ghost bus driver
  • Score: 8

8:07pm Fri 30 May 14

Withdean-er says...

pachallis wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
Summed up by a BBC journalist this morning: Apart from the feck-everyone-else's


-safety wannabee Lewis Hamilton's amongst us, the 20mph zones slow much of traffic down from people doing 35mph, to say 25mph. That saves lives and reduces injuries in accidents, although that's a bitter pill for intransigent petrol-heads to swallow, and/or those who simply leave it so late to get anywhere, that speeding's their choice.
@Withdean-er - agreed but a pedantry point - displayed speed limits are that - they are, by law, a limit not a target.

Even the council officials admitted though, that the target for the 20 mph zones was to get AVERAGE speeds down below 25 mph. So there is no point to enforcing the 20 mph speed limits - they were never meant to be enforced! Hence also the introduction of those flashing speed check signs - to just remind you to slow down.

Lets hope that the greens botched cheap-skate attempt at speed limiting does actually work and they do lead to less accidents and lower emissions. Unfortunately, AFAIK, the council has no statistics in the city to back their claims. If there are any I'd really like to see them.

The introduction of speed limits without clear signage; sufficient traffic calming; and penalties for exceeding limits (i.e. carrot and stick) was doomed to failure. Some people will just ignore them and carry on driving as they always do. Of course start fining drivers who exceed and the motorists start complaining that it is 'so unfair' - bit like little kids.

What we need is for the speed limits to be treated as such, for proper traffic calming and signage to be put in place (sorry - this does cost money) and for proper enforcement by use of speed cameras at significant points - especially outside schools and by shopping areas.

BTW - using terms such as petrol-heads to insult motorists doesn't help either - I know it just irritates me. Look at all the arrogant cyclists who now think the responsibility, obeying the highway code and obeying road signs doesn't apply to them because sanctimonious Davey says so and he just wants to encourage more untrained cyclists on to the roads.

We all have to use the roads responsibly.
Making an wild assumption there that any poster wanting people to drive more carefully in towns & at reduced speeds, must have some connection to those 'evil' cyclists. Completely wrong - was written by a car owner. Perhaps a quiet majority of residents would be pleased with safer roads in Brighton with lower car speeds. But that would be awfully inconvenient for those disorganised car drivers who leave too late for work or the school run, or simply seem to think they have the god given right to drive through residential roads, no matter how narrow or with kids about, in their 1.5T missiles at whatever speeds they please.
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: Summed up by a BBC journalist this morning: Apart from the feck-everyone-else's -safety wannabee Lewis Hamilton's amongst us, the 20mph zones slow much of traffic down from people doing 35mph, to say 25mph. That saves lives and reduces injuries in accidents, although that's a bitter pill for intransigent petrol-heads to swallow, and/or those who simply leave it so late to get anywhere, that speeding's their choice.[/p][/quote]@Withdean-er - agreed but a pedantry point - displayed speed limits are that - they are, by law, a limit not a target. Even the council officials admitted though, that the target for the 20 mph zones was to get AVERAGE speeds down below 25 mph. So there is no point to enforcing the 20 mph speed limits - they were never meant to be enforced! Hence also the introduction of those flashing speed check signs - to just remind you to slow down. Lets hope that the greens botched cheap-skate attempt at speed limiting does actually work and they do lead to less accidents and lower emissions. Unfortunately, AFAIK, the council has no statistics in the city to back their claims. If there are any I'd really like to see them. The introduction of speed limits without clear signage; sufficient traffic calming; and penalties for exceeding limits (i.e. carrot and stick) was doomed to failure. Some people will just ignore them and carry on driving as they always do. Of course start fining drivers who exceed and the motorists start complaining that it is 'so unfair' - bit like little kids. What we need is for the speed limits to be treated as such, for proper traffic calming and signage to be put in place (sorry - this does cost money) and for proper enforcement by use of speed cameras at significant points - especially outside schools and by shopping areas. BTW - using terms such as petrol-heads to insult motorists doesn't help either - I know it just irritates me. Look at all the arrogant cyclists who now think the responsibility, obeying the highway code and obeying road signs doesn't apply to them because sanctimonious Davey says so and he just wants to encourage more untrained cyclists on to the roads. We all have to use the roads responsibly.[/p][/quote]Making an wild assumption there that any poster wanting people to drive more carefully in towns & at reduced speeds, must have some connection to those 'evil' cyclists. Completely wrong - was written by a car owner. Perhaps a quiet majority of residents would be pleased with safer roads in Brighton with lower car speeds. But that would be awfully inconvenient for those disorganised car drivers who leave too late for work or the school run, or simply seem to think they have the god given right to drive through residential roads, no matter how narrow or with kids about, in their 1.5T missiles at whatever speeds they please. Withdean-er
  • Score: 0

8:14pm Fri 30 May 14

pachallis says...

@Withdean-er - sorry - assumed you were a car-hater when I read petrol-head. Totally agree - more haste, less speed, and allow sufficient time for your journey so you don't have to speed.
@Withdean-er - sorry - assumed you were a car-hater when I read petrol-head. Totally agree - more haste, less speed, and allow sufficient time for your journey so you don't have to speed. pachallis
  • Score: 5

9:03pm Fri 30 May 14

Withdean-er says...

pachallis wrote:
@Withdean-er - sorry - assumed you were a car-hater when I read petrol-head. Totally agree - more haste, less speed, and allow sufficient time for your journey so you don't have to speed.
No worries. When NOT uptight trying to get to work but driving at that time, the driving on rat runs and the like that goes on 8-9 each weekday, isn't good. Loads of tense looking mums etc, ready to explode, on school runs - a knock-on effect of loads of kids these days going to Primary schools not near their homes. I've seen some stand-offs where cars coming from opposite directions won't give in where roads narrow, with the obligatory anglo-saxon expletives yelled from contorted faces (with the little-ones listening to their 'nice' parent).
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: @Withdean-er - sorry - assumed you were a car-hater when I read petrol-head. Totally agree - more haste, less speed, and allow sufficient time for your journey so you don't have to speed.[/p][/quote]No worries. When NOT uptight trying to get to work but driving at that time, the driving on rat runs and the like that goes on 8-9 each weekday, isn't good. Loads of tense looking mums etc, ready to explode, on school runs - a knock-on effect of loads of kids these days going to Primary schools not near their homes. I've seen some stand-offs where cars coming from opposite directions won't give in where roads narrow, with the obligatory anglo-saxon expletives yelled from contorted faces (with the little-ones listening to their 'nice' parent). Withdean-er
  • Score: 7

10:42pm Fri 30 May 14

hubby says...

s&k wrote:
There's a lot to be said for Medieval social punishment/humiliati

on - bring back the stocks and we can pelt him with rotten fruit!
I could live with that!
[quote][p][bold]s&k[/bold] wrote: There's a lot to be said for Medieval social punishment/humiliati on - bring back the stocks and we can pelt him with rotten fruit![/p][/quote]I could live with that! hubby
  • Score: 3

11:02pm Fri 30 May 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Kwik Fick
Kwik Fick Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 2

11:54pm Fri 30 May 14

NathanAdler says...

Christ he is ugly!! He looks like a genital wart.
Christ he is ugly!! He looks like a genital wart. NathanAdler
  • Score: 5

2:30am Sat 31 May 14

Gribbet says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
spa301 wrote:
I am curious why ZeeGee has such an issue with Jesterfeckwits account of an earlier encounter with the speeding moron.
You're not perhaps Nathan Townsend or one of his friends are you?
It should be obvious why I'm querying his account, so if I were to point out why, I'm not convinced you'd understand my response.
Sounds almost exactly like what I said to you the other day. Nice to see that it registered with you.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: I am curious why ZeeGee has such an issue with Jesterfeckwits account of an earlier encounter with the speeding moron. You're not perhaps Nathan Townsend or one of his friends are you?[/p][/quote]It should be obvious why I'm querying his account, so if I were to point out why, I'm not convinced you'd understand my response.[/p][/quote]Sounds almost exactly like what I said to you the other day. Nice to see that it registered with you. Gribbet
  • Score: 0

7:16am Sat 31 May 14

We love Red Billy says...

NathanAdler wrote:
Christ he is ugly!! He looks like a genital wart.
Thats Mr Genital Wart. Definately a candidate for the Gzunder treatment.
[quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: Christ he is ugly!! He looks like a genital wart.[/p][/quote]Thats Mr Genital Wart. Definately a candidate for the Gzunder treatment. We love Red Billy
  • Score: 2

9:43am Sat 31 May 14

Fairfax Aches says...

I can confirm this bloke does/did work at Kwikfit in Brighton. I remember he gestured me rudely when going to work. Once I got out of my car and squared up to him, he backed down pretty quickly, he was all "sorry mate, calm down mate".
Walks the talks the talk but definitely doesn't talk the talk, what a pu$$y.
I can confirm this bloke does/did work at Kwikfit in Brighton. I remember he gestured me rudely when going to work. Once I got out of my car and squared up to him, he backed down pretty quickly, he was all "sorry mate, calm down mate". Walks the talks the talk but definitely doesn't talk the talk, what a pu$$y. Fairfax Aches
  • Score: 2

9:58am Sat 31 May 14

Ania Green says...

I see a lot if stupid comments being posted by the usual Argus moanerati here. This does prove that a 20mph limit is needed across the city as many it would make people more aware of the dangers of driving at crazy speeds like this man.
I see a lot if stupid comments being posted by the usual Argus moanerati here. This does prove that a 20mph limit is needed across the city as many it would make people more aware of the dangers of driving at crazy speeds like this man. Ania Green
  • Score: -3

10:45am Sat 31 May 14

theargusissoinformative says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote: "JesterFeckwits experience kind of makes a mockery of Townsend's apparent contrition and blatant lie." There is no evidence that Feckwit's incident actually happened, especially as his claims are implausible and contradictory. Further, speed wasn't a factor in the alleged incident.
I can assure you that this incident did occur, the guy who verbally abused me through my car window is the one shown in the photo that accompanies this story (which I stumbled across by accident), I have no reason to make this sorry tale up, there was at least one witness to the altercation (a man standing outside the aquarium shop, who when I approached him afterwards stated that he didn't want to be involved) and I'd welcome the opportunity to repeat any or all of this to the police and / or a court of law if anyone asked me to.
So why was the chasing you? That's the third time I've asked that question.
I think that you use the Skidrow moniker as well.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: "JesterFeckwits experience kind of makes a mockery of Townsend's apparent contrition and blatant lie." There is no evidence that Feckwit's incident actually happened, especially as his claims are implausible and contradictory. Further, speed wasn't a factor in the alleged incident.[/p][/quote]I can assure you that this incident did occur, the guy who verbally abused me through my car window is the one shown in the photo that accompanies this story (which I stumbled across by accident), I have no reason to make this sorry tale up, there was at least one witness to the altercation (a man standing outside the aquarium shop, who when I approached him afterwards stated that he didn't want to be involved) and I'd welcome the opportunity to repeat any or all of this to the police and / or a court of law if anyone asked me to.[/p][/quote]So why was the chasing you? That's the third time I've asked that question.[/p][/quote]I think that you use the Skidrow moniker as well. theargusissoinformative
  • Score: 0

11:55am Sat 31 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Ania Green wrote:
I see a lot if stupid comments being posted by the usual Argus moanerati here. This does prove that a 20mph limit is needed across the city as many it would make people more aware of the dangers of driving at crazy speeds like this man.
In what way does it 'prove' that?

This incident only went to show that it is perfectly possible to drive at 70mph safely on Elm Grove.
[quote][p][bold]Ania Green[/bold] wrote: I see a lot if stupid comments being posted by the usual Argus moanerati here. This does prove that a 20mph limit is needed across the city as many it would make people more aware of the dangers of driving at crazy speeds like this man.[/p][/quote]In what way does it 'prove' that? This incident only went to show that it is perfectly possible to drive at 70mph safely on Elm Grove. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -8

11:56am Sat 31 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Fairfax Aches wrote:
I can confirm this bloke does/did work at Kwikfit in Brighton. I remember he gestured me rudely when going to work. Once I got out of my car and squared up to him, he backed down pretty quickly, he was all "sorry mate, calm down mate".
Walks the talks the talk but definitely doesn't talk the talk, what a pu$$y.
And why was he rude to you in the first place?

After all, you sound like a thug - why on Earth would someone want to be rude to you?
[quote][p][bold]Fairfax Aches[/bold] wrote: I can confirm this bloke does/did work at Kwikfit in Brighton. I remember he gestured me rudely when going to work. Once I got out of my car and squared up to him, he backed down pretty quickly, he was all "sorry mate, calm down mate". Walks the talks the talk but definitely doesn't talk the talk, what a pu$$y.[/p][/quote]And why was he rude to you in the first place? After all, you sound like a thug - why on Earth would someone want to be rude to you? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -5

12:05pm Sat 31 May 14

Nikski says...

You can't get thicker than a Kwik-fit fitter!
You can't get thicker than a Kwik-fit fitter! Nikski
  • Score: 12

1:59pm Sat 31 May 14

John Steed says...

in france a vehicle is seized if the driver is caught doing over double the speed limit, that should apply here. however if an unmarked police car followed at the same speed, they obviously though it safe to do that sort of reckless speed. in a 20 mph zone.
in france a vehicle is seized if the driver is caught doing over double the speed limit, that should apply here. however if an unmarked police car followed at the same speed, they obviously though it safe to do that sort of reckless speed. in a 20 mph zone. John Steed
  • Score: 1

4:07pm Sat 31 May 14

NickBrt says...

I have never seen such a handsome man. Really getting my juices flowing.
I have never seen such a handsome man. Really getting my juices flowing. NickBrt
  • Score: 1

6:04pm Sat 31 May 14

monkeymoo? says...

jamie-hove wrote:
Only 28 days? utterly absurd. The 20mph zones are a brilliant idea and make the streets safer for everyone. It is time that we had more patrols out there to catch the motorists who decide to pick and choose which regulations thy wish to follow. If we fined more of them we could finally get more cycle lanes as well.
tw4t
[quote][p][bold]jamie-hove[/bold] wrote: Only 28 days? utterly absurd. The 20mph zones are a brilliant idea and make the streets safer for everyone. It is time that we had more patrols out there to catch the motorists who decide to pick and choose which regulations thy wish to follow. If we fined more of them we could finally get more cycle lanes as well.[/p][/quote]tw4t monkeymoo?
  • Score: -2

7:07pm Sat 31 May 14

just-a-person says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote:
pachallis wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/
Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order!
Why?
Because I suspect the vehicle he was driving wasn't his (a 207CC doesn't really seem like him does it?) and as such he was driving a customer's car recklessly and verbally abusing other road users whilst on company business.
I think they should know that his more recent speeding conviction was not an isolated, out of character incident but perhaps evidence of his normal behaviour whilst driving.
Would you want your vehicle to be driven by him?
You have no idea whose car it was, and it's none of your business either. It certainly wasn't being driven at excessive speed.

He drove his own car at 70 mph, which is a reasonable speed for any car to achieve.

You still haven't told us why he was chasing you. Shall we just accept that YOUR lousy driving was to blame for the earlier incident? I do hope he points that out on your visit to Kwikfit.
It is possible if the idiot was in his overalls that he was in working hours so therefore his place of work may very well be interested in the incident. The idiot made it his business acting like that and I certainly wouldn't want him treating my car like that. As for the chasing him that was intimidating and aggressive and he should understand not all people respond how he would like of getting out of his way because he does not own the road. It's not big and it's not clever. If the other driver was "lousy driving" then he should of backed off and kept a safe distance instead of flashing his lights and sounding his horn. Jester go to Kwik-Fit and the other poster, actions have consequences and he needs to grow up before he kills someone.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/[/p][/quote]Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order![/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]Because I suspect the vehicle he was driving wasn't his (a 207CC doesn't really seem like him does it?) and as such he was driving a customer's car recklessly and verbally abusing other road users whilst on company business. I think they should know that his more recent speeding conviction was not an isolated, out of character incident but perhaps evidence of his normal behaviour whilst driving. Would you want your vehicle to be driven by him?[/p][/quote]You have no idea whose car it was, and it's none of your business either. It certainly wasn't being driven at excessive speed. He drove his own car at 70 mph, which is a reasonable speed for any car to achieve. You still haven't told us why he was chasing you. Shall we just accept that YOUR lousy driving was to blame for the earlier incident? I do hope he points that out on your visit to Kwikfit.[/p][/quote]It is possible if the idiot was in his overalls that he was in working hours so therefore his place of work may very well be interested in the incident. The idiot made it his business acting like that and I certainly wouldn't want him treating my car like that. As for the chasing him that was intimidating and aggressive and he should understand not all people respond how he would like of getting out of his way because he does not own the road. It's not big and it's not clever. If the other driver was "lousy driving" then he should of backed off and kept a safe distance instead of flashing his lights and sounding his horn. Jester go to Kwik-Fit and the other poster, actions have consequences and he needs to grow up before he kills someone. just-a-person
  • Score: 4

7:15pm Sat 31 May 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

just-a-person wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote:
pachallis wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/
Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order!
Why?
Because I suspect the vehicle he was driving wasn't his (a 207CC doesn't really seem like him does it?) and as such he was driving a customer's car recklessly and verbally abusing other road users whilst on company business.
I think they should know that his more recent speeding conviction was not an isolated, out of character incident but perhaps evidence of his normal behaviour whilst driving.
Would you want your vehicle to be driven by him?
You have no idea whose car it was, and it's none of your business either. It certainly wasn't being driven at excessive speed.

He drove his own car at 70 mph, which is a reasonable speed for any car to achieve.

You still haven't told us why he was chasing you. Shall we just accept that YOUR lousy driving was to blame for the earlier incident? I do hope he points that out on your visit to Kwikfit.
It is possible if the idiot was in his overalls that he was in working hours so therefore his place of work may very well be interested in the incident. The idiot made it his business acting like that and I certainly wouldn't want him treating my car like that. As for the chasing him that was intimidating and aggressive and he should understand not all people respond how he would like of getting out of his way because he does not own the road. It's not big and it's not clever. If the other driver was "lousy driving" then he should of backed off and kept a safe distance instead of flashing his lights and sounding his horn. Jester go to Kwik-Fit and the other poster, actions have consequences and he needs to grow up before he kills someone.
If he had been in his overalls when he confronted Feckwit, he wouldn't have had to ask us if his place of work was known.

Further, the chances of him tearing after another car whilst test-driving a car owned by a customer are remote to zero.

Feckwit has refused to explain why he was chased and abused, even though his assailant will have made that perfectly clear, so it's obvious that Feckwit was the one at fault for that.

Has Feckwik been in toch with Kwikfit over the earlier incident? I suspect not, but if he has, I also suspect that Kwikfit told him where to go.
[quote][p][bold]just-a-person[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/[/p][/quote]Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order![/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]Because I suspect the vehicle he was driving wasn't his (a 207CC doesn't really seem like him does it?) and as such he was driving a customer's car recklessly and verbally abusing other road users whilst on company business. I think they should know that his more recent speeding conviction was not an isolated, out of character incident but perhaps evidence of his normal behaviour whilst driving. Would you want your vehicle to be driven by him?[/p][/quote]You have no idea whose car it was, and it's none of your business either. It certainly wasn't being driven at excessive speed. He drove his own car at 70 mph, which is a reasonable speed for any car to achieve. You still haven't told us why he was chasing you. Shall we just accept that YOUR lousy driving was to blame for the earlier incident? I do hope he points that out on your visit to Kwikfit.[/p][/quote]It is possible if the idiot was in his overalls that he was in working hours so therefore his place of work may very well be interested in the incident. The idiot made it his business acting like that and I certainly wouldn't want him treating my car like that. As for the chasing him that was intimidating and aggressive and he should understand not all people respond how he would like of getting out of his way because he does not own the road. It's not big and it's not clever. If the other driver was "lousy driving" then he should of backed off and kept a safe distance instead of flashing his lights and sounding his horn. Jester go to Kwik-Fit and the other poster, actions have consequences and he needs to grow up before he kills someone.[/p][/quote]If he had been in his overalls when he confronted Feckwit, he wouldn't have had to ask us if his place of work was known. Further, the chances of him tearing after another car whilst test-driving a car owned by a customer are remote to zero. Feckwit has refused to explain why he was chased and abused, even though his assailant will have made that perfectly clear, so it's obvious that Feckwit was the one at fault for that. Has Feckwik been in toch with Kwikfit over the earlier incident? I suspect not, but if he has, I also suspect that Kwikfit told him where to go. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

8:52pm Sat 31 May 14

just-a-person says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
just-a-person wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote:
pachallis wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/
Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order!
Why?
Because I suspect the vehicle he was driving wasn't his (a 207CC doesn't really seem like him does it?) and as such he was driving a customer's car recklessly and verbally abusing other road users whilst on company business.
I think they should know that his more recent speeding conviction was not an isolated, out of character incident but perhaps evidence of his normal behaviour whilst driving.
Would you want your vehicle to be driven by him?
You have no idea whose car it was, and it's none of your business either. It certainly wasn't being driven at excessive speed.

He drove his own car at 70 mph, which is a reasonable speed for any car to achieve.

You still haven't told us why he was chasing you. Shall we just accept that YOUR lousy driving was to blame for the earlier incident? I do hope he points that out on your visit to Kwikfit.
It is possible if the idiot was in his overalls that he was in working hours so therefore his place of work may very well be interested in the incident. The idiot made it his business acting like that and I certainly wouldn't want him treating my car like that. As for the chasing him that was intimidating and aggressive and he should understand not all people respond how he would like of getting out of his way because he does not own the road. It's not big and it's not clever. If the other driver was "lousy driving" then he should of backed off and kept a safe distance instead of flashing his lights and sounding his horn. Jester go to Kwik-Fit and the other poster, actions have consequences and he needs to grow up before he kills someone.
If he had been in his overalls when he confronted Feckwit, he wouldn't have had to ask us if his place of work was known.

Further, the chances of him tearing after another car whilst test-driving a car owned by a customer are remote to zero.

Feckwit has refused to explain why he was chased and abused, even though his assailant will have made that perfectly clear, so it's obvious that Feckwit was the one at fault for that.

Has Feckwik been in toch with Kwikfit over the earlier incident? I suspect not, but if he has, I also suspect that Kwikfit told him where to go.
I didn't explain myself very clear there, I expect you were driving up his a*** whilst flashing your lights and sounding your horn which is intimidating, aggressive and could result in an accident. I'm sure Kwik-Fit will have records of cars that have been worked on there and if Jester went along there could give them more details. If Kwik-Fit then "told him where to go" the management are just as bad as the staff member in question and would make some people question going there in the future. If however it was not in works time and he was not working on the car I hope his or the car owners insurance covered him to be driving it in the first place.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]just-a-person[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/[/p][/quote]Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order![/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]Because I suspect the vehicle he was driving wasn't his (a 207CC doesn't really seem like him does it?) and as such he was driving a customer's car recklessly and verbally abusing other road users whilst on company business. I think they should know that his more recent speeding conviction was not an isolated, out of character incident but perhaps evidence of his normal behaviour whilst driving. Would you want your vehicle to be driven by him?[/p][/quote]You have no idea whose car it was, and it's none of your business either. It certainly wasn't being driven at excessive speed. He drove his own car at 70 mph, which is a reasonable speed for any car to achieve. You still haven't told us why he was chasing you. Shall we just accept that YOUR lousy driving was to blame for the earlier incident? I do hope he points that out on your visit to Kwikfit.[/p][/quote]It is possible if the idiot was in his overalls that he was in working hours so therefore his place of work may very well be interested in the incident. The idiot made it his business acting like that and I certainly wouldn't want him treating my car like that. As for the chasing him that was intimidating and aggressive and he should understand not all people respond how he would like of getting out of his way because he does not own the road. It's not big and it's not clever. If the other driver was "lousy driving" then he should of backed off and kept a safe distance instead of flashing his lights and sounding his horn. Jester go to Kwik-Fit and the other poster, actions have consequences and he needs to grow up before he kills someone.[/p][/quote]If he had been in his overalls when he confronted Feckwit, he wouldn't have had to ask us if his place of work was known. Further, the chances of him tearing after another car whilst test-driving a car owned by a customer are remote to zero. Feckwit has refused to explain why he was chased and abused, even though his assailant will have made that perfectly clear, so it's obvious that Feckwit was the one at fault for that. Has Feckwik been in toch with Kwikfit over the earlier incident? I suspect not, but if he has, I also suspect that Kwikfit told him where to go.[/p][/quote]I didn't explain myself very clear there, I expect you were driving up his a*** whilst flashing your lights and sounding your horn which is intimidating, aggressive and could result in an accident. I'm sure Kwik-Fit will have records of cars that have been worked on there and if Jester went along there could give them more details. If Kwik-Fit then "told him where to go" the management are just as bad as the staff member in question and would make some people question going there in the future. If however it was not in works time and he was not working on the car I hope his or the car owners insurance covered him to be driving it in the first place. just-a-person
  • Score: 5

9:11pm Sat 31 May 14

Grumpmeister says...

What a Bell End would you let this dick head any where near your car. Speaking as an ex car technician he is an embarrasment and so is the sentence. If he and the rest of the boy racers fancy themselves as racing drivers why don't they prove their point on the race track they would soon realise against the professional racers that their abilities stop at making the car move forward.
What a Bell End would you let this dick head any where near your car. Speaking as an ex car technician he is an embarrasment and so is the sentence. If he and the rest of the boy racers fancy themselves as racing drivers why don't they prove their point on the race track they would soon realise against the professional racers that their abilities stop at making the car move forward. Grumpmeister
  • Score: 10

3:05am Sun 1 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

just-a-person wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
just-a-person wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
JesterFeckwit wrote:
pachallis wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/
Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order!
Why?
Because I suspect the vehicle he was driving wasn't his (a 207CC doesn't really seem like him does it?) and as such he was driving a customer's car recklessly and verbally abusing other road users whilst on company business.
I think they should know that his more recent speeding conviction was not an isolated, out of character incident but perhaps evidence of his normal behaviour whilst driving.
Would you want your vehicle to be driven by him?
You have no idea whose car it was, and it's none of your business either. It certainly wasn't being driven at excessive speed.

He drove his own car at 70 mph, which is a reasonable speed for any car to achieve.

You still haven't told us why he was chasing you. Shall we just accept that YOUR lousy driving was to blame for the earlier incident? I do hope he points that out on your visit to Kwikfit.
It is possible if the idiot was in his overalls that he was in working hours so therefore his place of work may very well be interested in the incident. The idiot made it his business acting like that and I certainly wouldn't want him treating my car like that. As for the chasing him that was intimidating and aggressive and he should understand not all people respond how he would like of getting out of his way because he does not own the road. It's not big and it's not clever. If the other driver was "lousy driving" then he should of backed off and kept a safe distance instead of flashing his lights and sounding his horn. Jester go to Kwik-Fit and the other poster, actions have consequences and he needs to grow up before he kills someone.
If he had been in his overalls when he confronted Feckwit, he wouldn't have had to ask us if his place of work was known.

Further, the chances of him tearing after another car whilst test-driving a car owned by a customer are remote to zero.

Feckwit has refused to explain why he was chased and abused, even though his assailant will have made that perfectly clear, so it's obvious that Feckwit was the one at fault for that.

Has Feckwik been in toch with Kwikfit over the earlier incident? I suspect not, but if he has, I also suspect that Kwikfit told him where to go.
I didn't explain myself very clear there, I expect you were driving up his a*** whilst flashing your lights and sounding your horn which is intimidating, aggressive and could result in an accident. I'm sure Kwik-Fit will have records of cars that have been worked on there and if Jester went along there could give them more details. If Kwik-Fit then "told him where to go" the management are just as bad as the staff member in question and would make some people question going there in the future. If however it was not in works time and he was not working on the car I hope his or the car owners insurance covered him to be driving it in the first place.
I wasn't involved, sorry, so I wasn't the person chasing him.
[quote][p][bold]just-a-person[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]just-a-person[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JesterFeckwit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: @JesterFeckwit - according to the initial article posted on Wednesday 29th April: 'Kwik Fit mechanic Nathan Townsend is accused of travelling more than three times the limit in his souped-up Ford Fiesta. The 26-year-old married mechanic first appeared in court in March over charges of exceeding the 20mph speed limit, careless driving and having no MOT and will return to Brighton Magistrates’ Court again on May 29.'. Full article with no green-speak-spin at: http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11178781. Brighton_mechanic_be comes_first_driver_c harged_with_speeding _in_new_20mph_zones/[/p][/quote]Thanks, I found that article earlier as well. I guess he must work at the Kwik Fit on Lewes Road. I feel a visit to management might be in order![/p][/quote]Why?[/p][/quote]Because I suspect the vehicle he was driving wasn't his (a 207CC doesn't really seem like him does it?) and as such he was driving a customer's car recklessly and verbally abusing other road users whilst on company business. I think they should know that his more recent speeding conviction was not an isolated, out of character incident but perhaps evidence of his normal behaviour whilst driving. Would you want your vehicle to be driven by him?[/p][/quote]You have no idea whose car it was, and it's none of your business either. It certainly wasn't being driven at excessive speed. He drove his own car at 70 mph, which is a reasonable speed for any car to achieve. You still haven't told us why he was chasing you. Shall we just accept that YOUR lousy driving was to blame for the earlier incident? I do hope he points that out on your visit to Kwikfit.[/p][/quote]It is possible if the idiot was in his overalls that he was in working hours so therefore his place of work may very well be interested in the incident. The idiot made it his business acting like that and I certainly wouldn't want him treating my car like that. As for the chasing him that was intimidating and aggressive and he should understand not all people respond how he would like of getting out of his way because he does not own the road. It's not big and it's not clever. If the other driver was "lousy driving" then he should of backed off and kept a safe distance instead of flashing his lights and sounding his horn. Jester go to Kwik-Fit and the other poster, actions have consequences and he needs to grow up before he kills someone.[/p][/quote]If he had been in his overalls when he confronted Feckwit, he wouldn't have had to ask us if his place of work was known. Further, the chances of him tearing after another car whilst test-driving a car owned by a customer are remote to zero. Feckwit has refused to explain why he was chased and abused, even though his assailant will have made that perfectly clear, so it's obvious that Feckwit was the one at fault for that. Has Feckwik been in toch with Kwikfit over the earlier incident? I suspect not, but if he has, I also suspect that Kwikfit told him where to go.[/p][/quote]I didn't explain myself very clear there, I expect you were driving up his a*** whilst flashing your lights and sounding your horn which is intimidating, aggressive and could result in an accident. I'm sure Kwik-Fit will have records of cars that have been worked on there and if Jester went along there could give them more details. If Kwik-Fit then "told him where to go" the management are just as bad as the staff member in question and would make some people question going there in the future. If however it was not in works time and he was not working on the car I hope his or the car owners insurance covered him to be driving it in the first place.[/p][/quote]I wasn't involved, sorry, so I wasn't the person chasing him. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -3

3:06am Sun 1 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Grumpmeister wrote:
What a Bell End would you let this dick head any where near your car. Speaking as an ex car technician he is an embarrasment and so is the sentence. If he and the rest of the boy racers fancy themselves as racing drivers why don't they prove their point on the race track they would soon realise against the professional racers that their abilities stop at making the car move forward.
Who said he was racing?

Racing involves other vehicles.

It sounds more like he was in a hurry, and that he had clear road in front of him.,
[quote][p][bold]Grumpmeister[/bold] wrote: What a Bell End would you let this dick head any where near your car. Speaking as an ex car technician he is an embarrasment and so is the sentence. If he and the rest of the boy racers fancy themselves as racing drivers why don't they prove their point on the race track they would soon realise against the professional racers that their abilities stop at making the car move forward.[/p][/quote]Who said he was racing? Racing involves other vehicles. It sounds more like he was in a hurry, and that he had clear road in front of him., ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -8

7:56pm Sun 1 Jun 14

hubby says...

John Steed wrote:
in france a vehicle is seized if the driver is caught doing over double the speed limit, that should apply here. however if an unmarked police car followed at the same speed, they obviously though it safe to do that sort of reckless speed. in a 20 mph zone.
Who would want the pile of carp he was driving?
[quote][p][bold]John Steed[/bold] wrote: in france a vehicle is seized if the driver is caught doing over double the speed limit, that should apply here. however if an unmarked police car followed at the same speed, they obviously though it safe to do that sort of reckless speed. in a 20 mph zone.[/p][/quote]Who would want the pile of carp he was driving? hubby
  • Score: 1

2:58pm Tue 3 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Isn't it time Feckwit told us how he got on at Kwikfit?

I'd hate to think that he chickened out.

The same goes for FA.
Isn't it time Feckwit told us how he got on at Kwikfit? I'd hate to think that he chickened out. The same goes for FA. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -4

3:49pm Tue 3 Jun 14

spa301 says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Isn't it time Feckwit told us how he got on at Kwikfit?

I'd hate to think that he chickened out.

The same goes for FA.
Why's that? Are they getting fed up with you calling a sickie?
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: Isn't it time Feckwit told us how he got on at Kwikfit? I'd hate to think that he chickened out. The same goes for FA.[/p][/quote]Why's that? Are they getting fed up with you calling a sickie? spa301
  • Score: 2

3:09pm Wed 4 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

spa301 wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Isn't it time Feckwit told us how he got on at Kwikfit?

I'd hate to think that he chickened out.

The same goes for FA.
Why's that? Are they getting fed up with you calling a sickie?
Eh?
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: Isn't it time Feckwit told us how he got on at Kwikfit? I'd hate to think that he chickened out. The same goes for FA.[/p][/quote]Why's that? Are they getting fed up with you calling a sickie?[/p][/quote]Eh? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -2

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