Cyclist suffers serious head injuries after colliding with a pedestrian

Cyclist suffers serious head injuries after colliding with a pedestrian

Cyclist suffers serious head injuries after colliding with a pedestrian

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A CYCLIST suffered serious head injuries when she collided with a pedestrian on Brighton seafront.

The 54-year-old woman from Brighton was riding in the cycle lane on Madeira Drive, east of the Palace Pier when she collided with a 33-year-old woman from Hertfordshire.

Witnesses said the cyclist fell over the handlebars of her bike after striking the pedestrian.The incident occurred on the seaside cycle lane about 500m west of Duke’s Mound.

The woman was taken to the Royal Sussex County Hospital in a critical condition. She was transferred to the Hurstwood Park Hospital neurological unit where she was then described as stable but with serious head injuries.

The pedestrian received minor injuries but did not require hospital treatment.

Rebecca Chadderton, 47, a volunteer at Modern World Gallery, close to the crash, said: “One of the artists next door had a man come in from the scene who was covered in blood so it was quite a mess.

“The police were coming down with washing up bowls full of water and there are still stains on the pavement.”

She added: “Every day I walk to work I see near misses on Maderia Drive. Just opposite us we have the anchor which takes up the pavement and people have to step into the cycle lane. Sometimes people are not thinking, sometimes cyclists are not thinking. It is a danger to everyone.”

Simon Klimek, engineer on the Volks’ Electric Railway, said: “The police did a reconstruction of the incident but I did not see the incident actually happen.

“There were a lot of police.”

A spokesman from Sussex Police said: “The victim is currently in Hurstwood Park neurological unit with serious head injuries. She is in a stable condition.”

Anyone who saw what happened on Saturday at 2.25pm is asked to contact Sussex Police via 101 or email collision.appeal@sussex.pnn.police.uk quoting Operation Omega.

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6:40am Tue 3 Jun 14

gingerninja says...

The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.
The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands. gingerninja
  • Score: 27

7:34am Tue 3 Jun 14

hyram77 says...

Hope all involved make a recovery. Sounds like a harsh injury for the cyclist considering the low speeds involved. I wonder if a helmet was worn?
Hope all involved make a recovery. Sounds like a harsh injury for the cyclist considering the low speeds involved. I wonder if a helmet was worn? hyram77
  • Score: 10

7:34am Tue 3 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

gingerninja wrote:
The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.
I am with you on this. I did hear a whisper that a scheme is in the offing, but whether it can be put in place before the next election is another matter and a change of administration may mean having to stick with what we have got for another 5 years.

Just for once, let's all stop pointing the finger at who is to blame and all hope this lady recovers from this tragic accident.
[quote][p][bold]gingerninja[/bold] wrote: The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.[/p][/quote]I am with you on this. I did hear a whisper that a scheme is in the offing, but whether it can be put in place before the next election is another matter and a change of administration may mean having to stick with what we have got for another 5 years. Just for once, let's all stop pointing the finger at who is to blame and all hope this lady recovers from this tragic accident. HJarrs
  • Score: 7

7:38am Tue 3 Jun 14

MegA69 says...

Pedestrians (mostly from out of town) often wander into the cycle lane near the pier and have no idea it is there. I have also collided and fallen off crashing into the rails and sustained inquires (that involved blood). The cycle lane on the seafront must be made far, far, more obvious and stand out – paint it lime green or something really bright, clear and screamingly obvious. A couple of PCSOs policing the cycle lane around the pier would also be welcome on busy weekends. How many more accidents and near misses have to happen?
Pedestrians (mostly from out of town) often wander into the cycle lane near the pier and have no idea it is there. I have also collided and fallen off crashing into the rails and sustained inquires (that involved blood). The cycle lane on the seafront must be made far, far, more obvious and stand out – paint it lime green or something really bright, clear and screamingly obvious. A couple of PCSOs policing the cycle lane around the pier would also be welcome on busy weekends. How many more accidents and near misses have to happen? MegA69
  • Score: 13

8:16am Tue 3 Jun 14

John Steed says...

cyclists get all this money spent on cycle lanes only to treat them like personal race tracks, I use the cycle lane along worthing seafront and the speed attained by cyclists passing me is often quite surprising especially on the narrower parts towards lancing, some cyclists are justa as dangerous on the cycle paths as they are on the roads.
cyclists get all this money spent on cycle lanes only to treat them like personal race tracks, I use the cycle lane along worthing seafront and the speed attained by cyclists passing me is often quite surprising especially on the narrower parts towards lancing, some cyclists are justa as dangerous on the cycle paths as they are on the roads. John Steed
  • Score: 7

8:16am Tue 3 Jun 14

spa301 says...

HJarrs wrote:
gingerninja wrote:
The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.
I am with you on this. I did hear a whisper that a scheme is in the offing, but whether it can be put in place before the next election is another matter and a change of administration may mean having to stick with what we have got for another 5 years.

Just for once, let's all stop pointing the finger at who is to blame and all hope this lady recovers from this tragic accident.
I almost agreed with you but then you had to slip in the lament that when the Greens are thrown out improvements are unlikely. You've had 4 years to sort out this existing issue. Has it not been long enough? We now have cycle lanes all over the city but the main seafront one has had these problems since its installation.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gingerninja[/bold] wrote: The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.[/p][/quote]I am with you on this. I did hear a whisper that a scheme is in the offing, but whether it can be put in place before the next election is another matter and a change of administration may mean having to stick with what we have got for another 5 years. Just for once, let's all stop pointing the finger at who is to blame and all hope this lady recovers from this tragic accident.[/p][/quote]I almost agreed with you but then you had to slip in the lament that when the Greens are thrown out improvements are unlikely. You've had 4 years to sort out this existing issue. Has it not been long enough? We now have cycle lanes all over the city but the main seafront one has had these problems since its installation. spa301
  • Score: 15

8:46am Tue 3 Jun 14

TomBertieWooster says...

Some of the cyclists seem to think that they must cycle as fast as they can - and actually time their journeys so that they can see if they have shaved a minute off their travel time to work.
Cyclists are traffic, and should not be mixed with pedestrians: their place is on the road.
The situation of conflict between cyclists and other road users is getting worse day by day
Some of the cyclists seem to think that they must cycle as fast as they can - and actually time their journeys so that they can see if they have shaved a minute off their travel time to work. Cyclists are traffic, and should not be mixed with pedestrians: their place is on the road. The situation of conflict between cyclists and other road users is getting worse day by day TomBertieWooster
  • Score: 7

9:01am Tue 3 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

spa301 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
gingerninja wrote:
The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.
I am with you on this. I did hear a whisper that a scheme is in the offing, but whether it can be put in place before the next election is another matter and a change of administration may mean having to stick with what we have got for another 5 years.

Just for once, let's all stop pointing the finger at who is to blame and all hope this lady recovers from this tragic accident.
I almost agreed with you but then you had to slip in the lament that when the Greens are thrown out improvements are unlikely. You've had 4 years to sort out this existing issue. Has it not been long enough? We now have cycle lanes all over the city but the main seafront one has had these problems since its installation.
At a time of declining council budgets, it depends upon the external funding available I am afraid.
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gingerninja[/bold] wrote: The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.[/p][/quote]I am with you on this. I did hear a whisper that a scheme is in the offing, but whether it can be put in place before the next election is another matter and a change of administration may mean having to stick with what we have got for another 5 years. Just for once, let's all stop pointing the finger at who is to blame and all hope this lady recovers from this tragic accident.[/p][/quote]I almost agreed with you but then you had to slip in the lament that when the Greens are thrown out improvements are unlikely. You've had 4 years to sort out this existing issue. Has it not been long enough? We now have cycle lanes all over the city but the main seafront one has had these problems since its installation.[/p][/quote]At a time of declining council budgets, it depends upon the external funding available I am afraid. HJarrs
  • Score: -10

9:20am Tue 3 Jun 14

pachallis says...

spa301 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
gingerninja wrote:
The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.
I am with you on this. I did hear a whisper that a scheme is in the offing, but whether it can be put in place before the next election is another matter and a change of administration may mean having to stick with what we have got for another 5 years.

Just for once, let's all stop pointing the finger at who is to blame and all hope this lady recovers from this tragic accident.
I almost agreed with you but then you had to slip in the lament that when the Greens are thrown out improvements are unlikely. You've had 4 years to sort out this existing issue. Has it not been long enough? We now have cycle lanes all over the city but the main seafront one has had these problems since its installation.
@spa301 - yes - it's a shame, but expected, that @HJarrs has to drop back into 'green fanboy' mode.

Why didn't the greens sort out the entire coast route first - it's on the flat and easiest for cyclists. How much was wasted on the unused Old Shoreham Road cycle lane leading from nowhere to nowhere on top of a hill? How much will similarly be wasted on the Edward Street cycle lane going up a steep hill? When will they finally get the Lewes Road cycle lane sorted?

And all @HJarrs, who states he is NOT a spokesperson for the greens, can offer is some vague statement that the greens MIGHT do something about it if we re-elect then for ANOTHER 5 years!
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gingerninja[/bold] wrote: The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.[/p][/quote]I am with you on this. I did hear a whisper that a scheme is in the offing, but whether it can be put in place before the next election is another matter and a change of administration may mean having to stick with what we have got for another 5 years. Just for once, let's all stop pointing the finger at who is to blame and all hope this lady recovers from this tragic accident.[/p][/quote]I almost agreed with you but then you had to slip in the lament that when the Greens are thrown out improvements are unlikely. You've had 4 years to sort out this existing issue. Has it not been long enough? We now have cycle lanes all over the city but the main seafront one has had these problems since its installation.[/p][/quote]@spa301 - yes - it's a shame, but expected, that @HJarrs has to drop back into 'green fanboy' mode. Why didn't the greens sort out the entire coast route first - it's on the flat and easiest for cyclists. How much was wasted on the unused Old Shoreham Road cycle lane leading from nowhere to nowhere on top of a hill? How much will similarly be wasted on the Edward Street cycle lane going up a steep hill? When will they finally get the Lewes Road cycle lane sorted? And all @HJarrs, who states he is NOT a spokesperson for the greens, can offer is some vague statement that the greens MIGHT do something about it if we re-elect then for ANOTHER 5 years! pachallis
  • Score: 8

9:30am Tue 3 Jun 14

Plantpot says...

It would help if cyclists kept to a modest speed and obeyed the give way signs etc. along the seafront cycle route. It's also a timely reminder as to why cyclists and pedestrians will never mix on the promenade.

None of which is to say that the accident in the report is anything other than a highly unfortunate mishap - they do happen.
It would help if cyclists kept to a modest speed and obeyed the give way signs etc. along the seafront cycle route. It's also a timely reminder as to why cyclists and pedestrians will never mix on the promenade. None of which is to say that the accident in the report is anything other than a highly unfortunate mishap - they do happen. Plantpot
  • Score: 15

9:35am Tue 3 Jun 14

Valerie Paynter says...

Why are cyclists allowed to go faster than cars are? Even on a cycle path?

Why do so many on racing bikes feel free to cycle amongst us like they are Bradley Wiggins in the Tour de France race - be they in a cycle path, on a pedestrianised street or weaving on a pavement?

Why are cycle paths invisible to pedestrians?

This is the 2nd Brighton seafront cyclist head injury to be reported here - what happened to the man who hit a shelter? Did he recover? Is he OK? Will this lady be OK?

Cycling needs to be safer to gain numbers and we DO need people to cycle and walk a lot more. Neither is supported well and cycle lanes are proving to be deathtraps. Why is that?

Personally I feel licensing cyclists is an imperative and high viz colouring of cycle lanes is simply a no-brainer.
Why are cyclists allowed to go faster than cars are? Even on a cycle path? Why do so many on racing bikes feel free to cycle amongst us like they are Bradley Wiggins in the Tour de France race - be they in a cycle path, on a pedestrianised street or weaving on a pavement? Why are cycle paths invisible to pedestrians? This is the 2nd Brighton seafront cyclist head injury to be reported here - what happened to the man who hit a shelter? Did he recover? Is he OK? Will this lady be OK? Cycling needs to be safer to gain numbers and we DO need people to cycle and walk a lot more. Neither is supported well and cycle lanes are proving to be deathtraps. Why is that? Personally I feel licensing cyclists is an imperative and high viz colouring of cycle lanes is simply a no-brainer. Valerie Paynter
  • Score: 12

10:36am Tue 3 Jun 14

pachallis says...

HJarrs wrote:
spa301 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
gingerninja wrote:
The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.
I am with you on this. I did hear a whisper that a scheme is in the offing, but whether it can be put in place before the next election is another matter and a change of administration may mean having to stick with what we have got for another 5 years.

Just for once, let's all stop pointing the finger at who is to blame and all hope this lady recovers from this tragic accident.
I almost agreed with you but then you had to slip in the lament that when the Greens are thrown out improvements are unlikely. You've had 4 years to sort out this existing issue. Has it not been long enough? We now have cycle lanes all over the city but the main seafront one has had these problems since its installation.
At a time of declining council budgets, it depends upon the external funding available I am afraid.
So it is not the green council's fault, but that of the government? So the council should accept no responsibility (nothing new here!) for the situation?

And the green council can get funding for installing cycle lanes in Edward Street, and putting in unenforceable 20mph zones, but can't get funding for the Sea Front?

I would say this is just a priority decision by the council, and particular the likes of Ian Davey.

And best of all your 'statement' is from someone who is NOT a spokesperson for the green council but merely a self-confessed fanboy!

Methinks you'd better have another chat with Caroline Lucas to see if you need to check with her first before spinning more sycophantic drivel and trying to make political points for the greens out of some poor cyclists injury.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gingerninja[/bold] wrote: The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.[/p][/quote]I am with you on this. I did hear a whisper that a scheme is in the offing, but whether it can be put in place before the next election is another matter and a change of administration may mean having to stick with what we have got for another 5 years. Just for once, let's all stop pointing the finger at who is to blame and all hope this lady recovers from this tragic accident.[/p][/quote]I almost agreed with you but then you had to slip in the lament that when the Greens are thrown out improvements are unlikely. You've had 4 years to sort out this existing issue. Has it not been long enough? We now have cycle lanes all over the city but the main seafront one has had these problems since its installation.[/p][/quote]At a time of declining council budgets, it depends upon the external funding available I am afraid.[/p][/quote]So it is not the green council's fault, but that of the government? So the council should accept no responsibility (nothing new here!) for the situation? And the green council can get funding for installing cycle lanes in Edward Street, and putting in unenforceable 20mph zones, but can't get funding for the Sea Front? I would say this is just a priority decision by the council, and particular the likes of Ian Davey. And best of all your 'statement' is from someone who is NOT a spokesperson for the green council but merely a self-confessed fanboy! Methinks you'd better have another chat with Caroline Lucas to see if you need to check with her first before spinning more sycophantic drivel and trying to make political points for the greens out of some poor cyclists injury. pachallis
  • Score: 4

10:58am Tue 3 Jun 14

runnergirl says...

Whether it's local policy, road users'/cycle-path users'/pedestrians' disregard for others, plain bad attitudes or whatever, it looks to me like the cycling issue in Brighton and Hove is out of control. I am both a motorist and a cyclist and I am fed up with seeing idiots on bikes hogging the pavements (and for getting sworn at if I say anything to them), presumably unaware (or indifferent to the fact that) they are breaking the law. I welcome the amenity of cycle lanes/tracks - more please! - but yesterday I was forced off my own bike on the cycle lane along Hove seafront by another cyclist (who also swore at me) racing past at top speed and apparently in training for the Tour de France.

Not sure whether 'licensing' would be effective but I'd be willing to give it a go.
Whether it's local policy, road users'/cycle-path users'/pedestrians' disregard for others, plain bad attitudes or whatever, it looks to me like the cycling issue in Brighton and Hove is out of control. I am both a motorist and a cyclist and I am fed up with seeing idiots on bikes hogging the pavements (and for getting sworn at if I say anything to them), presumably unaware (or indifferent to the fact that) they are breaking the law. I welcome the amenity of cycle lanes/tracks - more please! - but yesterday I was forced off my own bike on the cycle lane along Hove seafront by another cyclist (who also swore at me) racing past at top speed and apparently in training for the Tour de France. Not sure whether 'licensing' would be effective but I'd be willing to give it a go. runnergirl
  • Score: 6

11:00am Tue 3 Jun 14

SteveHove says...

Plantpot wrote:
It would help if cyclists kept to a modest speed and obeyed the give way signs etc. along the seafront cycle route. It's also a timely reminder as to why cyclists and pedestrians will never mix on the promenade.

None of which is to say that the accident in the report is anything other than a highly unfortunate mishap - they do happen.
Most cyclists dont observe the give way signs on the cycle path and ride along oblivious to them and the pedestrians trying to cross the cycle path at these points. I have seen this numerous times along the Hove Lawns section of the path....... Most cyclists dont even alter their speed to slow down at these give way signs
[quote][p][bold]Plantpot[/bold] wrote: It would help if cyclists kept to a modest speed and obeyed the give way signs etc. along the seafront cycle route. It's also a timely reminder as to why cyclists and pedestrians will never mix on the promenade. None of which is to say that the accident in the report is anything other than a highly unfortunate mishap - they do happen.[/p][/quote]Most cyclists dont observe the give way signs on the cycle path and ride along oblivious to them and the pedestrians trying to cross the cycle path at these points. I have seen this numerous times along the Hove Lawns section of the path....... Most cyclists dont even alter their speed to slow down at these give way signs SteveHove
  • Score: 9

11:40am Tue 3 Jun 14

salty_pete says...

Cyclist are silent. It is simply quite easy not to know they are coming up fast behind you. It is all too easy for a pedestrian to change course and walk straight in front of them. Pedestrians can even cross in front of cars without looking, and they make noise. I don't think throwing money at the problem will solve it either. Maybe cyclist should consider paying more attention to "defensive cycling" and be able to take avoiding action safely at all times.
Cyclist are silent. It is simply quite easy not to know they are coming up fast behind you. It is all too easy for a pedestrian to change course and walk straight in front of them. Pedestrians can even cross in front of cars without looking, and they make noise. I don't think throwing money at the problem will solve it either. Maybe cyclist should consider paying more attention to "defensive cycling" and be able to take avoiding action safely at all times. salty_pete
  • Score: 8

12:41pm Tue 3 Jun 14

brighton bluenose says...

HJarrs wrote:
spa301 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
gingerninja wrote:
The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.
I am with you on this. I did hear a whisper that a scheme is in the offing, but whether it can be put in place before the next election is another matter and a change of administration may mean having to stick with what we have got for another 5 years.

Just for once, let's all stop pointing the finger at who is to blame and all hope this lady recovers from this tragic accident.
I almost agreed with you but then you had to slip in the lament that when the Greens are thrown out improvements are unlikely. You've had 4 years to sort out this existing issue. Has it not been long enough? We now have cycle lanes all over the city but the main seafront one has had these problems since its installation.
At a time of declining council budgets, it depends upon the external funding available I am afraid.
What do you really think should be done with the seafront cycle lane?! Providing fencing between pedestrians and bikes is obviously a non-starter! Providing cycle lanes on the A29 Kings Road -ditto! What do you really expect?! And lets be clear that this cycle lane was installed prior to the Greens getting in!!
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gingerninja[/bold] wrote: The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.[/p][/quote]I am with you on this. I did hear a whisper that a scheme is in the offing, but whether it can be put in place before the next election is another matter and a change of administration may mean having to stick with what we have got for another 5 years. Just for once, let's all stop pointing the finger at who is to blame and all hope this lady recovers from this tragic accident.[/p][/quote]I almost agreed with you but then you had to slip in the lament that when the Greens are thrown out improvements are unlikely. You've had 4 years to sort out this existing issue. Has it not been long enough? We now have cycle lanes all over the city but the main seafront one has had these problems since its installation.[/p][/quote]At a time of declining council budgets, it depends upon the external funding available I am afraid.[/p][/quote]What do you really think should be done with the seafront cycle lane?! Providing fencing between pedestrians and bikes is obviously a non-starter! Providing cycle lanes on the A29 Kings Road -ditto! What do you really expect?! And lets be clear that this cycle lane was installed prior to the Greens getting in!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

4:48pm Tue 3 Jun 14

jimbo1234 says...

Agree with Gingerninja, the cycle lane along the sea front from the King Alfred to Dukes Mound is lethal. A massive overhaul is required immediately before some one else is killed. Also there is no way that cyclists should be allowed to ride along the promenade walks as was suggested recently. Some of the cyclists using the cycle lanes are exceeding 30 mph which is excessive. Cycle lanes should remain on the roads. End of story.
Agree with Gingerninja, the cycle lane along the sea front from the King Alfred to Dukes Mound is lethal. A massive overhaul is required immediately before some one else is killed. Also there is no way that cyclists should be allowed to ride along the promenade walks as was suggested recently. Some of the cyclists using the cycle lanes are exceeding 30 mph which is excessive. Cycle lanes should remain on the roads. End of story. jimbo1234
  • Score: 5

4:50pm Tue 3 Jun 14

jimbo1234 says...

Cycle lanes should remain on the roads.
Cycle lanes should remain on the roads. jimbo1234
  • Score: 5

5:23pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Cycle lanes which fail to safely separate pedestrians from cyclists are dangerous for all.
I broke my collar bone on this lane after a dog on an extendable lead darted across my path. I was not going fast but went over the handlebars. I no longer use two way cycle lanes or lanes which are shared with other users. This lane is extremely dangerous as are many in the city which have kids, tourists and dogs wandering into them. They are ok for toddlers learning to ride bikes but they are not commuting or useful routes for adults . I prefer the road. Follow the Highway Code, stay visible and keep up witht the traffic and share the roads safely. Don't put cyclists on pavements.
Cycle lanes which fail to safely separate pedestrians from cyclists are dangerous for all. I broke my collar bone on this lane after a dog on an extendable lead darted across my path. I was not going fast but went over the handlebars. I no longer use two way cycle lanes or lanes which are shared with other users. This lane is extremely dangerous as are many in the city which have kids, tourists and dogs wandering into them. They are ok for toddlers learning to ride bikes but they are not commuting or useful routes for adults . I prefer the road. Follow the Highway Code, stay visible and keep up witht the traffic and share the roads safely. Don't put cyclists on pavements. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 5

5:43pm Tue 3 Jun 14

gfshard says...

I cycle from Palmeira Square to Sussex Square almost every day of the year rain or shine to get to work. I am under no illusions that it is safe either for cyclists or pedestrians. It is, however, preferable to using the roads. I agree that cyclists must cycle defensively. Some of the the idiots on road bikes seem to think they are in training for the Tour of Great Britain. I no longer scowl at pedestrians blithely wandering down and across the lanes preferring instead to get off my bike and enjoy the view. I am very worried that there will be more accidents and would like to join the others who have wished the injured lady a speedy recovery,
I cycle from Palmeira Square to Sussex Square almost every day of the year rain or shine to get to work. I am under no illusions that it is safe either for cyclists or pedestrians. It is, however, preferable to using the roads. I agree that cyclists must cycle defensively. Some of the the idiots on road bikes seem to think they are in training for the Tour of Great Britain. I no longer scowl at pedestrians blithely wandering down and across the lanes preferring instead to get off my bike and enjoy the view. I am very worried that there will be more accidents and would like to join the others who have wished the injured lady a speedy recovery, gfshard
  • Score: 2

8:02pm Tue 3 Jun 14

High Wire says...

salty_pete wrote:
Cyclist are silent. It is simply quite easy not to know they are coming up fast behind you. It is all too easy for a pedestrian to change course and walk straight in front of them. Pedestrians can even cross in front of cars without looking, and they make noise. I don't think throwing money at the problem will solve it either. Maybe cyclist should consider paying more attention to "defensive cycling" and be able to take avoiding action safely at all times.
Do you feel that pedestrians should have no responsibilities ? How would you suggest someone cycles 'defensively' if it's ok for pedestrians to 'cross without looking' ? Should the cyclist get off and push ?

This was a horrible collision and I wish the victim a speedy and full recovery - and I hope she has the confidence to get back to enjoying cycling again soon.

As for requested comments about the cycle lane, my thoughts from years ago still stand - this one was a waste of money. Madeira Drive is one of the quieter roads in Brighton especially with the traffic calming measures in place. Cyclists can use the road with relative confidence. For many weekends the cycle lane is out of action due to events and the current lane makes it more difficult to negotiate the Palace Pier roundabout if your journey is not along the seafront. I often run alongside this lane - even when the pavement is empty there will be someone meandering in the cycle lane. Whoever painted it that colour made it a red carpet for chavs to wander down...
[quote][p][bold]salty_pete[/bold] wrote: Cyclist are silent. It is simply quite easy not to know they are coming up fast behind you. It is all too easy for a pedestrian to change course and walk straight in front of them. Pedestrians can even cross in front of cars without looking, and they make noise. I don't think throwing money at the problem will solve it either. Maybe cyclist should consider paying more attention to "defensive cycling" and be able to take avoiding action safely at all times.[/p][/quote]Do you feel that pedestrians should have no responsibilities ? How would you suggest someone cycles 'defensively' if it's ok for pedestrians to 'cross without looking' ? Should the cyclist get off and push ? This was a horrible collision and I wish the victim a speedy and full recovery - and I hope she has the confidence to get back to enjoying cycling again soon. As for requested comments about the cycle lane, my thoughts from years ago still stand - this one was a waste of money. Madeira Drive is one of the quieter roads in Brighton especially with the traffic calming measures in place. Cyclists can use the road with relative confidence. For many weekends the cycle lane is out of action due to events and the current lane makes it more difficult to negotiate the Palace Pier roundabout if your journey is not along the seafront. I often run alongside this lane - even when the pavement is empty there will be someone meandering in the cycle lane. Whoever painted it that colour made it a red carpet for chavs to wander down... High Wire
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8:47pm Tue 3 Jun 14

ARMANA says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
spa301 wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
gingerninja wrote:
The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.
I am with you on this. I did hear a whisper that a scheme is in the offing, but whether it can be put in place before the next election is another matter and a change of administration may mean having to stick with what we have got for another 5 years.

Just for once, let's all stop pointing the finger at who is to blame and all hope this lady recovers from this tragic accident.
I almost agreed with you but then you had to slip in the lament that when the Greens are thrown out improvements are unlikely. You've had 4 years to sort out this existing issue. Has it not been long enough? We now have cycle lanes all over the city but the main seafront one has had these problems since its installation.
At a time of declining council budgets, it depends upon the external funding available I am afraid.
What do you really think should be done with the seafront cycle lane?! Providing fencing between pedestrians and bikes is obviously a non-starter! Providing cycle lanes on the A29 Kings Road -ditto! What do you really expect?! And lets be clear that this cycle lane was installed prior to the Greens getting in!!
Thats easy Brown nose, BAN CYCLISTS, 99% are clowns anyway, you don't cycle by chance, ?? lol, (_o_)
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gingerninja[/bold] wrote: The seafront cycle lane needs a massive overhaul. It's way too easy for pedestrians to wander into it, it's just not visible enough, there needs to be a more obvious separation. As a cyclist, I try and avoid the stretch by the Palace Pier as you really do take your life in your hands.[/p][/quote]I am with you on this. I did hear a whisper that a scheme is in the offing, but whether it can be put in place before the next election is another matter and a change of administration may mean having to stick with what we have got for another 5 years. Just for once, let's all stop pointing the finger at who is to blame and all hope this lady recovers from this tragic accident.[/p][/quote]I almost agreed with you but then you had to slip in the lament that when the Greens are thrown out improvements are unlikely. You've had 4 years to sort out this existing issue. Has it not been long enough? We now have cycle lanes all over the city but the main seafront one has had these problems since its installation.[/p][/quote]At a time of declining council budgets, it depends upon the external funding available I am afraid.[/p][/quote]What do you really think should be done with the seafront cycle lane?! Providing fencing between pedestrians and bikes is obviously a non-starter! Providing cycle lanes on the A29 Kings Road -ditto! What do you really expect?! And lets be clear that this cycle lane was installed prior to the Greens getting in!![/p][/quote]Thats easy Brown nose, BAN CYCLISTS, 99% are clowns anyway, you don't cycle by chance, ?? lol, (_o_) ARMANA
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9:57pm Tue 3 Jun 14

rpc48gx says...

Either have proper segregation of cycle lanes or don't bother. I cycle in brighton and drive, but what we have in this country are stupid lines painted on the roads here. Only some cycle paths near the drive are worthy of being called cycle lanes. We should sent our policians to Stockholm, Gothenburg, or any large town in holland (Apeldoorn would do) and then they could see what real cycle lane networks actually are. Good for car drivers too, less congestion because its safer to cycle so more people do.
Either have proper segregation of cycle lanes or don't bother. I cycle in brighton and drive, but what we have in this country are stupid lines painted on the roads here. Only some cycle paths near the drive are worthy of being called cycle lanes. We should sent our policians to Stockholm, Gothenburg, or any large town in holland (Apeldoorn would do) and then they could see what real cycle lane networks actually are. Good for car drivers too, less congestion because its safer to cycle so more people do. rpc48gx
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2:22am Wed 4 Jun 14

Zeta Function says...

Unfortunately bran injuries don't heal very well. If cyclists were more aware of the dangers to the brain of going head first over the handle bars, and hitting concrete they might cycle more defensively.

Older cyclists need to be aware their reflexes may be less quick than they think. A cyclist has to be both mentally alert and fairly fit to be safe. Too many are not fit enough to cycle on busy roads and lanes where quick decisions followed by speedy actions have to be made to avoid accidents.

Helmets for the under 18s should be compulsory. A 'Don't cycle and Drink' campaign. A cycling information campaign with ads on TV.
Unfortunately bran injuries don't heal very well. If cyclists were more aware of the dangers to the brain of going head first over the handle bars, and hitting concrete they might cycle more defensively. Older cyclists need to be aware their reflexes may be less quick than they think. A cyclist has to be both mentally alert and fairly fit to be safe. Too many are not fit enough to cycle on busy roads and lanes where quick decisions followed by speedy actions have to be made to avoid accidents. Helmets for the under 18s should be compulsory. A 'Don't cycle and Drink' campaign. A cycling information campaign with ads on TV. Zeta Function
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9:12am Wed 4 Jun 14

Eddy B says...

There are severe problems with the seafront cycle lane. I am a cyclist that uses it (aswell as a motorist) and I broke my leg after an accident a few years ago involving another cyclist (I'd be interested to hear some statistics about accidents on this route as I regularly see near misses so expect there have been alot of accidents). The cycle lane is almost unusable around the piers in the summer due to the congestion. Pedestrians, dogs etc, (especially out of town visitors) are simply unaware that it is there alot of the time. I do not know what the solution is. Maybe kerbs would help differentiate the lane from the promenade. Maybe painting the lane a bright red? It has been widened in recent years which has been an improvement. Rerouting it away from (or moving) the shelters (which I understand are protected) would help too. And as others have said cyclists should be sensible and ride a bit more defensively too.

Brighton's commitment to cycle lanes is admirable but the traffic, pedestrians, and narrow streets, do mean cycling remains very dangerous in the city.
There are severe problems with the seafront cycle lane. I am a cyclist that uses it (aswell as a motorist) and I broke my leg after an accident a few years ago involving another cyclist (I'd be interested to hear some statistics about accidents on this route as I regularly see near misses so expect there have been alot of accidents). The cycle lane is almost unusable around the piers in the summer due to the congestion. Pedestrians, dogs etc, (especially out of town visitors) are simply unaware that it is there alot of the time. I do not know what the solution is. Maybe kerbs would help differentiate the lane from the promenade. Maybe painting the lane a bright red? It has been widened in recent years which has been an improvement. Rerouting it away from (or moving) the shelters (which I understand are protected) would help too. And as others have said cyclists should be sensible and ride a bit more defensively too. Brighton's commitment to cycle lanes is admirable but the traffic, pedestrians, and narrow streets, do mean cycling remains very dangerous in the city. Eddy B
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7:40pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Roy Pennington says...

500m west of Duke’s Mound there is a police CCTV pole: footage of that at 2pm could be useful.
500m west of Duke’s Mound there is a police CCTV pole: footage of that at 2pm could be useful. Roy Pennington
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