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Caroline Lucas slams "outdated" and "offensive" marriage laws

The Argus: Caroline Lucas slams "outdated" and "offensive" marriage laws Caroline Lucas slams "outdated" and "offensive" marriage laws

An MP has urged Ministers to bring forward laws to end the “offensive and outdated message” that marriage is a "business transaction between fathers".

Caroline Lucas, MP for Brighton Pavilion, slammed the current regulations which maintain a marriage certificate must include details of the fathers, but not the mothers, of the bride and groom.

She said: “Our law should not perpetuate the grossly outdated message that marriage should be seen as a business transaction between the father of the bride and the father of the groom.

"I call on the Home Secretary to change this law without delay and allow people to recognise the importance of mothers on their marriage certificates."

The motion tabled in Parliament has so far been signed by 26 MPs.

It follows a petition on the change.org website, which has attracted more than 37,500 signatures calling for the names of mothers to be included alongside those of fathers.

 

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4:25pm Thu 5 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

So the stupid woman has found another bandwagon during the run-up to a General Election.
So the stupid woman has found another bandwagon during the run-up to a General Election. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 57

4:26pm Thu 5 Jun 14

pjwilk says...

Everything she dose not agree with is offensive.Just go away resign before you are voted out.
Everything she dose not agree with is offensive.Just go away resign before you are voted out. pjwilk
  • Score: 61

4:38pm Thu 5 Jun 14

TonyTony says...

More important stuff by the greens
More important stuff by the greens TonyTony
  • Score: 49

4:47pm Thu 5 Jun 14

wibblewibble says...

ah the Greens. Always at the cutting edge of the serious issues facing Britain.
ah the Greens. Always at the cutting edge of the serious issues facing Britain. wibblewibble
  • Score: 68

4:50pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Martha Gunn says...

They speak of little else on the No. 49 bus.
They speak of little else on the No. 49 bus. Martha Gunn
  • Score: 58

4:50pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Man of steel says...

"Outdated" and "offensive" ahh, she's been looking in the mirror again.
"Outdated" and "offensive" ahh, she's been looking in the mirror again. Man of steel
  • Score: 53

4:51pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Phani Tikkala says...

Relax…. she'll be gone never to be heard of again in May next year!
Relax…. she'll be gone never to be heard of again in May next year! Phani Tikkala
  • Score: 42

5:01pm Thu 5 Jun 14

melee says...

??????????
?????????? melee
  • Score: 0

5:03pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Quiterie says...

Blimey. She's probably right, but does anyone really care?

Here's a few much more important laws that still exist that Caroline should get her teeth into......

In Liverpool, it is illegal for a woman to be topless except as a clerk in a tropical fish store.
In the UK a pregnant woman can legally relieve herself anywhere she wants, including in a policeman's helmet.
In the city of York it is legal to murder a Scotsman within the ancient city walls, but only if he is carrying a bow and arrow.

Come on Caroline......
Blimey. She's probably right, but does anyone really care? Here's a few much more important laws that still exist that Caroline should get her teeth into...... In Liverpool, it is illegal for a woman to be topless except as a clerk in a tropical fish store. In the UK a pregnant woman can legally relieve herself anywhere she wants, including in a policeman's helmet. In the city of York it is legal to murder a Scotsman within the ancient city walls, but only if he is carrying a bow and arrow. Come on Caroline...... Quiterie
  • Score: 39

5:09pm Thu 5 Jun 14

pwlr1966 says...

Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen
Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen pwlr1966
  • Score: 35

5:17pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Zeta Function says...

Yes. People do care profoundly.

Women are not 'things' to be exchanged between male relatives and husbands.

MP Lucas is right. I was unaware of this law. Now that I'm aware, I'll sign the petition.

We believe progress has been made, then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place.
Yes. People do care profoundly. Women are not 'things' to be exchanged between male relatives and husbands. MP Lucas is right. I was unaware of this law. Now that I'm aware, I'll sign the petition. We believe progress has been made, then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place. Zeta Function
  • Score: -59

5:20pm Thu 5 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Zeta Function wrote:
Yes. People do care profoundly.

Women are not 'things' to be exchanged between male relatives and husbands.

MP Lucas is right. I was unaware of this law. Now that I'm aware, I'll sign the petition.

We believe progress has been made, then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place.
"then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place."

You mean the ones who are objecting to the current situation?

It's been the law since 1837 - why the fuss now?
[quote][p][bold]Zeta Function[/bold] wrote: Yes. People do care profoundly. Women are not 'things' to be exchanged between male relatives and husbands. MP Lucas is right. I was unaware of this law. Now that I'm aware, I'll sign the petition. We believe progress has been made, then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place.[/p][/quote]"then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place." You mean the ones who are objecting to the current situation? It's been the law since 1837 - why the fuss now? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 24

5:30pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Bill in Hanover says...

wibblewibble wrote:
ah the Greens. Always at the cutting edge of the serious issues facing Britain.
Look I know that unemployment, taxation, shortage of housing, immigration, the NHS and education are all important political issues that need to be addressed by Parliament but until we change marriage certificates to include the bride's mother we should be ashamed to call ourselves a democracy. p.s. at least this issue would impact less on Brighton residents than her suggestion that we open illegal 'shooting galleries' for drug abusers.
[quote][p][bold]wibblewibble[/bold] wrote: ah the Greens. Always at the cutting edge of the serious issues facing Britain.[/p][/quote]Look I know that unemployment, taxation, shortage of housing, immigration, the NHS and education are all important political issues that need to be addressed by Parliament but until we change marriage certificates to include the bride's mother we should be ashamed to call ourselves a democracy. p.s. at least this issue would impact less on Brighton residents than her suggestion that we open illegal 'shooting galleries' for drug abusers. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 16

5:32pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Quiterie says...

Zeta Function wrote:
Yes. People do care profoundly.

Women are not 'things' to be exchanged between male relatives and husbands.

MP Lucas is right. I was unaware of this law. Now that I'm aware, I'll sign the petition.

We believe progress has been made, then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place.
Easy sweet cheeks!

You obviously don't understand this law!!!!!

.... It's nothing to do with women being "exchanged". It's the father of the bride AND the father of the GROOM, that appear on the marriage certificate. What's to stop the men being "exchanged" as well?

Who's being sexist now?
[quote][p][bold]Zeta Function[/bold] wrote: Yes. People do care profoundly. Women are not 'things' to be exchanged between male relatives and husbands. MP Lucas is right. I was unaware of this law. Now that I'm aware, I'll sign the petition. We believe progress has been made, then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place.[/p][/quote]Easy sweet cheeks! You obviously don't understand this law!!!!! .... It's nothing to do with women being "exchanged". It's the father of the bride AND the father of the GROOM, that appear on the marriage certificate. What's to stop the men being "exchanged" as well? Who's being sexist now? Quiterie
  • Score: 33

5:51pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
So the stupid woman has found another bandwagon during the run-up to a General Election.
Pretty much like her Welsh Green Party counterpart Pippa 'all old people are racist' Bartolotti; she realised that the Greens in Wales would be slaughtered during the Euro elections, so tried to appeal to the student vote by stating that if the Greens ever came to power they would legalise cannabis
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: So the stupid woman has found another bandwagon during the run-up to a General Election.[/p][/quote]Pretty much like her Welsh Green Party counterpart Pippa 'all old people are racist' Bartolotti; she realised that the Greens in Wales would be slaughtered during the Euro elections, so tried to appeal to the student vote by stating that if the Greens ever came to power they would legalise cannabis Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)
  • Score: 26

5:56pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

It would be useful for children born in the UK to have the name of their genetic father on their birth certificate too.
It would be useful for children born in the UK to have the name of their genetic father on their birth certificate too. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 28

6:11pm Thu 5 Jun 14

west hove says...

Seems people's hatred of Lucas is masking the fact that she's making a valid point. Maybe she'll also deal with the "outdated" system with seems to favour mothers regarding access to children, though I doubt it.
Seems people's hatred of Lucas is masking the fact that she's making a valid point. Maybe she'll also deal with the "outdated" system with seems to favour mothers regarding access to children, though I doubt it. west hove
  • Score: -22

6:13pm Thu 5 Jun 14

hoveguyactually says...

Why should marriage certificates have either parents names anyway? Surely it is just the bride and groom who are important. Meanwhile, La Lucas has obviously run out of things to protest about. And not a murmur from her about executions of gay men and women, and the terrible treatment of women generally, including beheadings and stonings, in some Arab countries. Honour killings and executions for leaving Islam, are clearly not as important as worries about ancient British laws regarding marriage certificates.
Why should marriage certificates have either parents names anyway? Surely it is just the bride and groom who are important. Meanwhile, La Lucas has obviously run out of things to protest about. And not a murmur from her about executions of gay men and women, and the terrible treatment of women generally, including beheadings and stonings, in some Arab countries. Honour killings and executions for leaving Islam, are clearly not as important as worries about ancient British laws regarding marriage certificates. hoveguyactually
  • Score: 24

6:16pm Thu 5 Jun 14

qm says...

If anyone else had highlighted this issue I would have agreed wholeheartedly however . . . . . . . . . .
If anyone else had highlighted this issue I would have agreed wholeheartedly however . . . . . . . . . . qm
  • Score: 3

6:43pm Thu 5 Jun 14

FatherTed11 says...

Silly tart haha
Silly tart haha FatherTed11
  • Score: 11

6:51pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Man of steel says...

hoveguyactually says...
Why should marriage certificates have either parents names anyway?
It's all part of the ongoing census, keeping track of people through the ages etc, along with the annual one pretending to be a voters list, try not sending that back in, saying that you do not wish to vote, then you have the 5 year one.
hoveguyactually says... Why should marriage certificates have either parents names anyway? It's all part of the ongoing census, keeping track of people through the ages etc, along with the annual one pretending to be a voters list, try not sending that back in, saying that you do not wish to vote, then you have the 5 year one. Man of steel
  • Score: 2

7:43pm Thu 5 Jun 14

gheese77 says...

pwlr1966 wrote:
Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen
This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.
[quote][p][bold]pwlr1966[/bold] wrote: Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen[/p][/quote]This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes. gheese77
  • Score: -11

7:53pm Thu 5 Jun 14

brighton bluenose says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
Why should marriage certificates have either parents names anyway? Surely it is just the bride and groom who are important. Meanwhile, La Lucas has obviously run out of things to protest about. And not a murmur from her about executions of gay men and women, and the terrible treatment of women generally, including beheadings and stonings, in some Arab countries. Honour killings and executions for leaving Islam, are clearly not as important as worries about ancient British laws regarding marriage certificates.
Ha ha ha - you couldn't make this rubbish up!!
If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!!
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: Why should marriage certificates have either parents names anyway? Surely it is just the bride and groom who are important. Meanwhile, La Lucas has obviously run out of things to protest about. And not a murmur from her about executions of gay men and women, and the terrible treatment of women generally, including beheadings and stonings, in some Arab countries. Honour killings and executions for leaving Islam, are clearly not as important as worries about ancient British laws regarding marriage certificates.[/p][/quote]Ha ha ha - you couldn't make this rubbish up!! If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -17

7:58pm Thu 5 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

gheese77 wrote:
pwlr1966 wrote:
Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen
This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.
That's because sadly the City's Godfrey Blooms have found a home in the Argus comments! They certainly are not representative of the city.
[quote][p][bold]gheese77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pwlr1966[/bold] wrote: Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen[/p][/quote]This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.[/p][/quote]That's because sadly the City's Godfrey Blooms have found a home in the Argus comments! They certainly are not representative of the city. HJarrs
  • Score: -28

8:19pm Thu 5 Jun 14

UglyAmerican says...

Last I heard, most couples in the UK these days are choosing partnership rather than traditional marriage. So why is this bloviating sea cow rambling on about a dying tradition? What next, trying to save the French language?
Last I heard, most couples in the UK these days are choosing partnership rather than traditional marriage. So why is this bloviating sea cow rambling on about a dying tradition? What next, trying to save the French language? UglyAmerican
  • Score: 3

8:20pm Thu 5 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

HJarrs wrote:
gheese77 wrote:
pwlr1966 wrote:
Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen
This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.
That's because sadly the City's Godfrey Blooms have found a home in the Argus comments! They certainly are not representative of the city.
The city is home to wide range of opinions, none of which represent the city, so your comment is irrelevant and worthless.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gheese77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pwlr1966[/bold] wrote: Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen[/p][/quote]This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.[/p][/quote]That's because sadly the City's Godfrey Blooms have found a home in the Argus comments! They certainly are not representative of the city.[/p][/quote]The city is home to wide range of opinions, none of which represent the city, so your comment is irrelevant and worthless. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 19

8:34pm Thu 5 Jun 14

fredaj says...

It is a shame so many here think this issue is "silly" because it isn't - ask anyone who is interested in genealogy.

Through marriage certificates it is extremely easy to figure out the paternal line but all information about the maternal line has been lost, written out of history.

And that's a darn shame.

So please stop the point scoring, think about the issue and if you agree this information is useful to collect for future generations then please support this call for a change.
It is a shame so many here think this issue is "silly" because it isn't - ask anyone who is interested in genealogy. Through marriage certificates it is extremely easy to figure out the paternal line but all information about the maternal line has been lost, written out of history. And that's a darn shame. So please stop the point scoring, think about the issue and if you agree this information is useful to collect for future generations then please support this call for a change. fredaj
  • Score: 5

8:39pm Thu 5 Jun 14

fredflintstone1 says...

Before going on another sexist rant, why does she not seek to sort out key issues that actually affect the quality of life of her constituents?

As an example, I don't think that I've seen her calling for trespass to be made a criminal offence in this country, in the way that it is in Ireland, to stop our public parks being taken over by travellers? This could result in a massive cost saving locally as well.
Before going on another sexist rant, why does she not seek to sort out key issues that actually affect the quality of life of her constituents? As an example, I don't think that I've seen her calling for trespass to be made a criminal offence in this country, in the way that it is in Ireland, to stop our public parks being taken over by travellers? This could result in a massive cost saving locally as well. fredflintstone1
  • Score: 18

9:24pm Thu 5 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!!"

Er......she's a Member of Her Majesty's Government.

When it comes to legislating, she SHOULD be looking at national issues.

For a change, the petition is about a national issue, but it's a pathetic and trivial one.
"If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!!" Er......she's a Member of Her Majesty's Government. When it comes to legislating, she SHOULD be looking at national issues. For a change, the petition is about a national issue, but it's a pathetic and trivial one. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -9

9:44pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Quiterie says...

gheese77 wrote:
pwlr1966 wrote:
Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen
This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.
I totally agree with you. I'm no fan of the Greens, but that comment definitely is sexist and it's a real shame it got so many thumbs up.
[quote][p][bold]gheese77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pwlr1966[/bold] wrote: Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen[/p][/quote]This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you. I'm no fan of the Greens, but that comment definitely is sexist and it's a real shame it got so many thumbs up. Quiterie
  • Score: -6

9:46pm Thu 5 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Quiterie wrote:
gheese77 wrote:
pwlr1966 wrote:
Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen
This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.
I totally agree with you. I'm no fan of the Greens, but that comment definitely is sexist and it's a real shame it got so many thumbs up.
I think most people saw it for the joke it was.....




.....sadly, two had a sense-of-humour failure.
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gheese77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pwlr1966[/bold] wrote: Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen[/p][/quote]This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you. I'm no fan of the Greens, but that comment definitely is sexist and it's a real shame it got so many thumbs up.[/p][/quote]I think most people saw it for the joke it was..... .....sadly, two had a sense-of-humour failure. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 9

9:48pm Thu 5 Jun 14

RK_Brighton says...

Waste of time. Hardly makes a difference to anything. If you're so bothered by inequality within families, then there way more important things which have areal impact on lives to sort out before this.

It's just headline grabbing nonsense that will help no one.
Waste of time. Hardly makes a difference to anything. If you're so bothered by inequality within families, then there way more important things which have areal impact on lives to sort out before this. It's just headline grabbing nonsense that will help no one. RK_Brighton
  • Score: 6

10:01pm Thu 5 Jun 14

cynic_the says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
gheese77 wrote:
pwlr1966 wrote:
Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen
This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.
I totally agree with you. I'm no fan of the Greens, but that comment definitely is sexist and it's a real shame it got so many thumbs up.
I think most people saw it for the joke it was.....




.....sadly, two had a sense-of-humour failure.
I'm sorry,but all jokes are banned in social-topia. They might offend a vegan cyclist or something...
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gheese77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pwlr1966[/bold] wrote: Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen[/p][/quote]This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you. I'm no fan of the Greens, but that comment definitely is sexist and it's a real shame it got so many thumbs up.[/p][/quote]I think most people saw it for the joke it was..... .....sadly, two had a sense-of-humour failure.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry,but all jokes are banned in social-topia. They might offend a vegan cyclist or something... cynic_the
  • Score: 6

10:54pm Thu 5 Jun 14

brighton bluenose says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
"If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!!"

Er......she's a Member of Her Majesty's Government.

When it comes to legislating, she SHOULD be looking at national issues.

For a change, the petition is about a national issue, but it's a pathetic and trivial one.
As ever you fail to follow a simple point - I was replying to someone who was referring to Syria and FGM!!
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: "If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!!" Er......she's a Member of Her Majesty's Government. When it comes to legislating, she SHOULD be looking at national issues. For a change, the petition is about a national issue, but it's a pathetic and trivial one.[/p][/quote]As ever you fail to follow a simple point - I was replying to someone who was referring to Syria and FGM!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -1

11:44pm Thu 5 Jun 14

NickBrt says...

I actually see her point but certain religions go much further yet she isn't saying anything about them. Perhaps like many in public office she doesn't want to oiffend that draconian religion.
I actually see her point but certain religions go much further yet she isn't saying anything about them. Perhaps like many in public office she doesn't want to oiffend that draconian religion. NickBrt
  • Score: 4

12:55am Fri 6 Jun 14

Motorcyclist says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Zeta Function wrote:
Yes. People do care profoundly.

Women are not 'things' to be exchanged between male relatives and husbands.

MP Lucas is right. I was unaware of this law. Now that I'm aware, I'll sign the petition.

We believe progress has been made, then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place.
"then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place."

You mean the ones who are objecting to the current situation?

It's been the law since 1837 - why the fuss now?
Zee gee, you are a very sad and insecure little sheep. Why do you defend the capitalist parasites? When you grow up, do you want to be rich and powerful by exploiting the vulnerable populace? Would this compensate for your feelings of inadequacy? You might benefit from counselling. Soon.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zeta Function[/bold] wrote: Yes. People do care profoundly. Women are not 'things' to be exchanged between male relatives and husbands. MP Lucas is right. I was unaware of this law. Now that I'm aware, I'll sign the petition. We believe progress has been made, then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place.[/p][/quote]"then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place." You mean the ones who are objecting to the current situation? It's been the law since 1837 - why the fuss now?[/p][/quote]Zee gee, you are a very sad and insecure little sheep. Why do you defend the capitalist parasites? When you grow up, do you want to be rich and powerful by exploiting the vulnerable populace? Would this compensate for your feelings of inadequacy? You might benefit from counselling. Soon. Motorcyclist
  • Score: -7

1:01am Fri 6 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Brighton Bluenose wrote:

"As ever you fail to follow a simple point - I was replying to someone who was referring to Syria and FGM!!"

Here's the comment to which you responded:

"Why should marriage certificates have either parents names anyway? Surely it is just the bride and groom who are important. Meanwhile, La Lucas has obviously run out of things to protest about. And not a murmur from her about executions of gay men and women, and the terrible treatment of women generally, including beheadings and stonings, in some Arab countries. Honour killings and executions for leaving Islam, are clearly not as important as worries about ancient British laws regarding marriage certificates."

NOTE THE COMPLETE ABSENCE OF ANY REFERENCE TO SYRIA OR FGM

I realise that you have issues when it comes to what people write, but I suggest you don't post those issues across a public forum.
Brighton Bluenose wrote: "As ever you fail to follow a simple point - I was replying to someone who was referring to Syria and FGM!!" Here's the comment to which you responded: "Why should marriage certificates have either parents names anyway? Surely it is just the bride and groom who are important. Meanwhile, La Lucas has obviously run out of things to protest about. And not a murmur from her about executions of gay men and women, and the terrible treatment of women generally, including beheadings and stonings, in some Arab countries. Honour killings and executions for leaving Islam, are clearly not as important as worries about ancient British laws regarding marriage certificates." NOTE THE COMPLETE ABSENCE OF ANY REFERENCE TO SYRIA OR FGM I realise that you have issues when it comes to what people write, but I suggest you don't post those issues across a public forum. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -4

1:16am Fri 6 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

"Zee gee, you are a very sad and insecure little sheep. Why do you defend the capitalist parasites? When you grow up, do you want to be rich and powerful by exploiting the vulnerable populace? Would this compensate for your feelings of inadequacy?"

It's more a case of you fantasising about other posters rather than them exhibiting inadequacy, especially if their posts indicate their feelings of superiority over the vast majority of people who post on forums run by The Yarg-us.

For instance, anyone who thinks I have been defending capitalism on this thread is a moron, especially when they sub subsequently fail to explain their view.

Over to you, luv.
"Zee gee, you are a very sad and insecure little sheep. Why do you defend the capitalist parasites? When you grow up, do you want to be rich and powerful by exploiting the vulnerable populace? Would this compensate for your feelings of inadequacy?" It's more a case of you fantasising about other posters rather than them exhibiting inadequacy, especially if their posts indicate their feelings of superiority over the vast majority of people who post on forums run by The Yarg-us. For instance, anyone who thinks I have been defending capitalism on this thread is a moron, especially when they sub subsequently fail to explain their view. Over to you, luv. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -4

6:48am Fri 6 Jun 14

MikeyA says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
"If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!!"

Er......she's a Member of Her Majesty's Government.

When it comes to legislating, she SHOULD be looking at national issues.

For a change, the petition is about a national issue, but it's a pathetic and trivial one.
No, she isn't. She is only an MP - a member of the House of Commons.
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: "If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!!" Er......she's a Member of Her Majesty's Government. When it comes to legislating, she SHOULD be looking at national issues. For a change, the petition is about a national issue, but it's a pathetic and trivial one.[/p][/quote]No, she isn't. She is only an MP - a member of the House of Commons. MikeyA
  • Score: 0

7:16am Fri 6 Jun 14

wibblewibble says...

I think the naked bikeriders are due soon,they get alot of media coverage.Perhaps if Ms Lucas joined them people would take her more seriously.
I think the naked bikeriders are due soon,they get alot of media coverage.Perhaps if Ms Lucas joined them people would take her more seriously. wibblewibble
  • Score: -4

8:54am Fri 6 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

Looks like we are all agreed then, time to change the law.
Looks like we are all agreed then, time to change the law. HJarrs
  • Score: -10

8:56am Fri 6 Jun 14

hoveguyactually says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
hoveguyactually wrote:
Why should marriage certificates have either parents names anyway? Surely it is just the bride and groom who are important. Meanwhile, La Lucas has obviously run out of things to protest about. And not a murmur from her about executions of gay men and women, and the terrible treatment of women generally, including beheadings and stonings, in some Arab countries. Honour killings and executions for leaving Islam, are clearly not as important as worries about ancient British laws regarding marriage certificates.
Ha ha ha - you couldn't make this rubbish up!!
If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!!
Oh, you mean "local" issues like "No More Page 3".

Meanwhile, what is hypocritical about complaints about the items I mentioned? Do you mean it is hypocritical to criticise honour killings, beheadings and executions? If so, you belong in a different country, or maybe a different planet.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: Why should marriage certificates have either parents names anyway? Surely it is just the bride and groom who are important. Meanwhile, La Lucas has obviously run out of things to protest about. And not a murmur from her about executions of gay men and women, and the terrible treatment of women generally, including beheadings and stonings, in some Arab countries. Honour killings and executions for leaving Islam, are clearly not as important as worries about ancient British laws regarding marriage certificates.[/p][/quote]Ha ha ha - you couldn't make this rubbish up!! If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!![/p][/quote]Oh, you mean "local" issues like "No More Page 3". Meanwhile, what is hypocritical about complaints about the items I mentioned? Do you mean it is hypocritical to criticise honour killings, beheadings and executions? If so, you belong in a different country, or maybe a different planet. hoveguyactually
  • Score: -1

9:18am Fri 6 Jun 14

gaay buoy says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
gheese77 wrote:
pwlr1966 wrote:
Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen
This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.
I totally agree with you. I'm no fan of the Greens, but that comment definitely is sexist and it's a real shame it got so many thumbs up.
I think most people saw it for the joke it was.....




.....sadly, two had a sense-of-humour failure.
I'm sorry...what you should have said was 2 don't have a brain in their heads lol
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gheese77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pwlr1966[/bold] wrote: Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen[/p][/quote]This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you. I'm no fan of the Greens, but that comment definitely is sexist and it's a real shame it got so many thumbs up.[/p][/quote]I think most people saw it for the joke it was..... .....sadly, two had a sense-of-humour failure.[/p][/quote]I'm sorry...what you should have said was 2 don't have a brain in their heads lol gaay buoy
  • Score: -1

10:00am Fri 6 Jun 14

Zorniza says...

TonyTony wrote:
More important stuff by the greens
Pie in the sky reader, wanting, wanting, wanting!
It is effort and paying attention to details that gets my respect. I want people who are in charge to stay on the ball like Caroline and work for a better society.
How can this report be anything but reassuring to voters - she is totally in charge of issues and can handle anything - or flag anythig that needs public attention. Unfortunately lots of people like to put on the breaks to any suggestion for change. Change is the answer mate, so get used to it.
[quote][p][bold]TonyTony[/bold] wrote: More important stuff by the greens[/p][/quote]Pie in the sky reader, wanting, wanting, wanting! It is effort and paying attention to details that gets my respect. I want people who are in charge to stay on the ball like Caroline and work for a better society. How can this report be anything but reassuring to voters - she is totally in charge of issues and can handle anything - or flag anythig that needs public attention. Unfortunately lots of people like to put on the breaks to any suggestion for change. Change is the answer mate, so get used to it. Zorniza
  • Score: -1

10:19am Fri 6 Jun 14

ghost bus driver says...

UglyAmerican wrote:
Last I heard, most couples in the UK these days are choosing partnership rather than traditional marriage. So why is this bloviating sea cow rambling on about a dying tradition? What next, trying to save the French language?
Save the French language? Well, she IS Brussels Lucas after all.
[quote][p][bold]UglyAmerican[/bold] wrote: Last I heard, most couples in the UK these days are choosing partnership rather than traditional marriage. So why is this bloviating sea cow rambling on about a dying tradition? What next, trying to save the French language?[/p][/quote]Save the French language? Well, she IS Brussels Lucas after all. ghost bus driver
  • Score: 0

10:52am Fri 6 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

MikeyA wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
"If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!!"

Er......she's a Member of Her Majesty's Government.

When it comes to legislating, she SHOULD be looking at national issues.

For a change, the petition is about a national issue, but it's a pathetic and trivial one.
No, she isn't. She is only an MP - a member of the House of Commons.
Yes, I should have written that.

The point remains that she is an MP as I stated.
[quote][p][bold]MikeyA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: "If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!!" Er......she's a Member of Her Majesty's Government. When it comes to legislating, she SHOULD be looking at national issues. For a change, the petition is about a national issue, but it's a pathetic and trivial one.[/p][/quote]No, she isn't. She is only an MP - a member of the House of Commons.[/p][/quote]Yes, I should have written that. The point remains that she is an MP as I stated. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 1

10:54am Fri 6 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Zorniza wrote:
TonyTony wrote:
More important stuff by the greens
Pie in the sky reader, wanting, wanting, wanting!
It is effort and paying attention to details that gets my respect. I want people who are in charge to stay on the ball like Caroline and work for a better society.
How can this report be anything but reassuring to voters - she is totally in charge of issues and can handle anything - or flag anythig that needs public attention. Unfortunately lots of people like to put on the breaks to any suggestion for change. Change is the answer mate, so get used to it.
How can her support for mass immigration to this country plus her support for groups like the UAF POSSIBLY make for a better society?

She is supporting division in this country, fgs.......
[quote][p][bold]Zorniza[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TonyTony[/bold] wrote: More important stuff by the greens[/p][/quote]Pie in the sky reader, wanting, wanting, wanting! It is effort and paying attention to details that gets my respect. I want people who are in charge to stay on the ball like Caroline and work for a better society. How can this report be anything but reassuring to voters - she is totally in charge of issues and can handle anything - or flag anythig that needs public attention. Unfortunately lots of people like to put on the breaks to any suggestion for change. Change is the answer mate, so get used to it.[/p][/quote]How can her support for mass immigration to this country plus her support for groups like the UAF POSSIBLY make for a better society? She is supporting division in this country, fgs....... ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 5

1:01pm Fri 6 Jun 14

notaconspiracy says...

Since when has marriage had anything to do with cycle-lanes?
Since when has marriage had anything to do with cycle-lanes? notaconspiracy
  • Score: 2

3:15pm Fri 6 Jun 14

theargusissoinformative says...

ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
"If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!!"

Er......she's a Member of Her Majesty's Government.

When it comes to legislating, she SHOULD be looking at national issues.

For a change, the petition is about a national issue, but it's a pathetic and trivial one.
She's not a member of the Government; she's just an MP
[quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: "If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!!" Er......she's a Member of Her Majesty's Government. When it comes to legislating, she SHOULD be looking at national issues. For a change, the petition is about a national issue, but it's a pathetic and trivial one.[/p][/quote]She's not a member of the Government; she's just an MP theargusissoinformative
  • Score: 0

3:19pm Fri 6 Jun 14

theargusissoinformative says...

Motorcyclist wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
Zeta Function wrote:
Yes. People do care profoundly.

Women are not 'things' to be exchanged between male relatives and husbands.

MP Lucas is right. I was unaware of this law. Now that I'm aware, I'll sign the petition.

We believe progress has been made, then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place.
"then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place."

You mean the ones who are objecting to the current situation?

It's been the law since 1837 - why the fuss now?
Zee gee, you are a very sad and insecure little sheep. Why do you defend the capitalist parasites? When you grow up, do you want to be rich and powerful by exploiting the vulnerable populace? Would this compensate for your feelings of inadequacy? You might benefit from counselling. Soon.
What's the problem with capitalism then?
[quote][p][bold]Motorcyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zeta Function[/bold] wrote: Yes. People do care profoundly. Women are not 'things' to be exchanged between male relatives and husbands. MP Lucas is right. I was unaware of this law. Now that I'm aware, I'll sign the petition. We believe progress has been made, then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place.[/p][/quote]"then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place." You mean the ones who are objecting to the current situation? It's been the law since 1837 - why the fuss now?[/p][/quote]Zee gee, you are a very sad and insecure little sheep. Why do you defend the capitalist parasites? When you grow up, do you want to be rich and powerful by exploiting the vulnerable populace? Would this compensate for your feelings of inadequacy? You might benefit from counselling. Soon.[/p][/quote]What's the problem with capitalism then? theargusissoinformative
  • Score: 0

4:14pm Fri 6 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

theargusissoinformat
ive
wrote:
ZeeGee, ffs wrote:
"If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!!"

Er......she's a Member of Her Majesty's Government.

When it comes to legislating, she SHOULD be looking at national issues.

For a change, the petition is about a national issue, but it's a pathetic and trivial one.
She's not a member of the Government; she's just an MP
I've already corrected myself.

Do you have comprehension issues?
[quote][p][bold]theargusissoinformat ive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ZeeGee, ffs[/bold] wrote: "If she even breathed a word about such issues hypocritical idiots like yourself and the rest of the moanerati would shriek that she should be concentrating on 'local' issues!!" Er......she's a Member of Her Majesty's Government. When it comes to legislating, she SHOULD be looking at national issues. For a change, the petition is about a national issue, but it's a pathetic and trivial one.[/p][/quote]She's not a member of the Government; she's just an MP[/p][/quote]I've already corrected myself. Do you have comprehension issues? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 0

7:28pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Bill in Hanover says...

Zeta Function wrote:
Yes. People do care profoundly.

Women are not 'things' to be exchanged between male relatives and husbands.

MP Lucas is right. I was unaware of this law. Now that I'm aware, I'll sign the petition.

We believe progress has been made, then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place.
I disagree and would like to see the return of the customs of droit de seigneur and the handing over of a dowry by the bride's family to the groom's family, I would also like to see the 1857 law repealed which stopped a man from selling his wife. not until these ancient rights are restored will REAL progress be made in sexual equality.
[quote][p][bold]Zeta Function[/bold] wrote: Yes. People do care profoundly. Women are not 'things' to be exchanged between male relatives and husbands. MP Lucas is right. I was unaware of this law. Now that I'm aware, I'll sign the petition. We believe progress has been made, then something like this crops up, and the cockroaches who've been hibernating in the woodwork for centuries awaken and start crawling all over the place.[/p][/quote]I disagree and would like to see the return of the customs of droit de seigneur and the handing over of a dowry by the bride's family to the groom's family, I would also like to see the 1857 law repealed which stopped a man from selling his wife. not until these ancient rights are restored will REAL progress be made in sexual equality. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 0

7:29pm Fri 6 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

Lucas was married in 1991.

She claims the matter is 'offensive'.....how offended was she in 1991?
Lucas was married in 1991. She claims the matter is 'offensive'.....how offended was she in 1991? ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: 0

9:35am Sat 7 Jun 14

pachallis says...

HJarrs wrote:
gheese77 wrote:
pwlr1966 wrote:
Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen
This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.
That's because sadly the City's Godfrey Blooms have found a home in the Argus comments! They certainly are not representative of the city.
Goods old Clouseau - if you can't sycophantically support your deranged leader then at least do something and attack the opposition!

And then, of course, the sad little fanboy has to insult the Argus readeres who treat the greens as a dangerously incompetent waste of space.

He really is a wonderful asset for everyone who wants the greens to disappear into irrelevant obscurity in May 2015 - keep up the good work Clouseau!
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gheese77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pwlr1966[/bold] wrote: Silly woman should shut up and get back in the kitchen[/p][/quote]This comment could have been from UKIPs Godfrey Bloom himself! The sad fact is it received so many up-votes.[/p][/quote]That's because sadly the City's Godfrey Blooms have found a home in the Argus comments! They certainly are not representative of the city.[/p][/quote]Goods old Clouseau - if you can't sycophantically support your deranged leader then at least do something and attack the opposition! And then, of course, the sad little fanboy has to insult the Argus readeres who treat the greens as a dangerously incompetent waste of space. He really is a wonderful asset for everyone who wants the greens to disappear into irrelevant obscurity in May 2015 - keep up the good work Clouseau! pachallis
  • Score: 1

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