Major shopping street set for revamp

Major shopping street set for revamp

Major shopping street set for revamp

First published in News

A spruce up of a busy shopping street will try to reduce overcrowding and closing stores.

The Royal Bank of Scotland has announced plans to improve North Street in Brighton by introducing wider pavements as well as more trees and more seats.

The owners of the former Hanningtons block said it is carrying out a regeneration project on the street in part because the shop units in the area suffer from high vacancy rates as a result of the very narrow footways crowded with waiting bus passengers.

Information leaflets have now been sent out encouraging businesses and residents to comment on the proposals.

Plans include the widening of the pavement on the south side of North Street between Meeting House Lane and Princes Place, moving the westbound bus stops further west to between Meeting House Lane and Ship Street and widening the pavement at the east bound stops between Prince’s Place and Pavilion Buildings.

It is hoped the changes will relieve pedestrian congestion and allow trees and seats to be installed, improving the overall attractiveness of the street and encouraging shoppers to shop for longer.

A new pelican crossing will also be installed at Prince’s Place to help pedestrians cross between North Street and the Pavilion, North Laine and The Lanes.

A £15 million project by RBS group member West Register to build a new lane into Brighton Square from North Street was approved in December.

To comment on the proposals email northstreetbrighton@gmail.com.

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2:36pm Sat 7 Jun 14

her professional says...

Over to you, moanerati.
Over to you, moanerati. her professional
  • Score: -32

2:44pm Sat 7 Jun 14

NickBrt says...

Sounds great.
Sounds great. NickBrt
  • Score: 33

2:53pm Sat 7 Jun 14

From beer to uncertainty says...

£700 for a few paving slabs and £15 million to build narrower buses and nice biscuits for all those meetings?
£700 for a few paving slabs and £15 million to build narrower buses and nice biscuits for all those meetings? From beer to uncertainty
  • Score: 7

3:24pm Sat 7 Jun 14

Man of steel says...

I must confess that I'm rather lost.
The Royal Bank Of Scotland, that no longer own Hanningtons, are going to widen the pavement both side of the road, thereby making the road narrower, going to move bus stops, going to plant trees and seats, and install a pelican crossing Do they own the road? Do they own the pavement? I thought that all of that was done by the council.
Or is it a free for all and means that I can uproot the bus stop that is annoyingly right outside my front door, and replant it 100 yards up the road, letting it annoy someone else.
Finally, it seems daft to me to widen the pavement "to relieve pedestrian congestion" then plant trees and seats in the way.
I must confess that I'm rather lost. The Royal Bank Of Scotland, that no longer own Hanningtons, are going to widen the pavement both side of the road, thereby making the road narrower, going to move bus stops, going to plant trees and seats, and install a pelican crossing Do they own the road? Do they own the pavement? I thought that all of that was done by the council. Or is it a free for all and means that I can uproot the bus stop that is annoyingly right outside my front door, and replant it 100 yards up the road, letting it annoy someone else. Finally, it seems daft to me to widen the pavement "to relieve pedestrian congestion" then plant trees and seats in the way. Man of steel
  • Score: 42

3:38pm Sat 7 Jun 14

skylight says...

Well, it is certainly cramped and noisy and horrible down there right now..A change for the good, I say
Well, it is certainly cramped and noisy and horrible down there right now..A change for the good, I say skylight
  • Score: 24

4:00pm Sat 7 Jun 14

pachallis says...

her professional wrote:
Over to you, moanerati.
Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way.

It actually looks good!

I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.
[quote][p][bold]her professional[/bold] wrote: Over to you, moanerati.[/p][/quote]Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way. It actually looks good! I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual. pachallis
  • Score: 22

4:31pm Sat 7 Jun 14

NickBrt says...

The only thing Greens like doing with roads is sitting in them like that ridiculous MP of ours.
The only thing Greens like doing with roads is sitting in them like that ridiculous MP of ours. NickBrt
  • Score: 26

5:47pm Sat 7 Jun 14

quedula says...

That email address doesn't work.
That email address doesn't work. quedula
  • Score: 1

6:21pm Sat 7 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

pachallis wrote:
her professional wrote:
Over to you, moanerati.
Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way.

It actually looks good!

I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.
Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]her professional[/bold] wrote: Over to you, moanerati.[/p][/quote]Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way. It actually looks good! I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.[/p][/quote]Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous. HJarrs
  • Score: -25

7:37pm Sat 7 Jun 14

pachallis says...

HJarrs wrote:
pachallis wrote:
her professional wrote:
Over to you, moanerati.
Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way.

It actually looks good!

I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.
Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.
Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success?

Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city?

Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party!
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]her professional[/bold] wrote: Over to you, moanerati.[/p][/quote]Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way. It actually looks good! I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.[/p][/quote]Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.[/p][/quote]Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success? Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city? Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party! pachallis
  • Score: 14

7:56pm Sat 7 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

More childish comments Patchy?

I merely point out the weekness of you moanerati's "the city is ruined" mantra that we have had for 3 years.
More childish comments Patchy? I merely point out the weekness of you moanerati's "the city is ruined" mantra that we have had for 3 years. HJarrs
  • Score: -26

8:54pm Sat 7 Jun 14

PorkyChopper says...

Man of steel wrote:
I must confess that I'm rather lost.
The Royal Bank Of Scotland, that no longer own Hanningtons, are going to widen the pavement both side of the road, thereby making the road narrower, going to move bus stops, going to plant trees and seats, and install a pelican crossing Do they own the road? Do they own the pavement? I thought that all of that was done by the council.
Or is it a free for all and means that I can uproot the bus stop that is annoyingly right outside my front door, and replant it 100 yards up the road, letting it annoy someone else.
Finally, it seems daft to me to widen the pavement "to relieve pedestrian congestion" then plant trees and seats in the way.
Tax fiddle?
[quote][p][bold]Man of steel[/bold] wrote: I must confess that I'm rather lost. The Royal Bank Of Scotland, that no longer own Hanningtons, are going to widen the pavement both side of the road, thereby making the road narrower, going to move bus stops, going to plant trees and seats, and install a pelican crossing Do they own the road? Do they own the pavement? I thought that all of that was done by the council. Or is it a free for all and means that I can uproot the bus stop that is annoyingly right outside my front door, and replant it 100 yards up the road, letting it annoy someone else. Finally, it seems daft to me to widen the pavement "to relieve pedestrian congestion" then plant trees and seats in the way.[/p][/quote]Tax fiddle? PorkyChopper
  • Score: 10

9:21pm Sat 7 Jun 14

Morpheus says...

I don't see how this can work. The road is too narrow to widen the pavement and this will prevent any passing. All traffic will be held up when buses are at the stops. It is bad enough already after the council pavement widening schemes.
I don't see how this can work. The road is too narrow to widen the pavement and this will prevent any passing. All traffic will be held up when buses are at the stops. It is bad enough already after the council pavement widening schemes. Morpheus
  • Score: 9

10:43pm Sat 7 Jun 14

Helen Ariel says...

Good news this is a horrid street at the moment!
Good news this is a horrid street at the moment! Helen Ariel
  • Score: 7

12:45am Sun 8 Jun 14

Motorcyclist says...

pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
pachallis wrote:
her professional wrote:
Over to you, moanerati.
Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way.

It actually looks good!

I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.
Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.
Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success?

Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city?

Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party!
You are a very pathetic little sheep Patchy. You must be very frustrated with your unfulfilled aspirations.
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]her professional[/bold] wrote: Over to you, moanerati.[/p][/quote]Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way. It actually looks good! I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.[/p][/quote]Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.[/p][/quote]Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success? Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city? Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party![/p][/quote]You are a very pathetic little sheep Patchy. You must be very frustrated with your unfulfilled aspirations. Motorcyclist
  • Score: -10

1:31am Sun 8 Jun 14

ZeeGee, ffs says...

her professional wrote:
Over to you, moanerati.
Stupid b*tch.
[quote][p][bold]her professional[/bold] wrote: Over to you, moanerati.[/p][/quote]Stupid b*tch. ZeeGee, ffs
  • Score: -1

1:52am Sun 8 Jun 14

Gribbet says...

HJarrs wrote:
More childish comments Patchy?

I merely point out the weekness of you moanerati's "the city is ruined" mantra that we have had for 3 years.
That's not the mantra. The mantra is: "They're bringing our once great city to it's knees!".
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: More childish comments Patchy? I merely point out the weekness of you moanerati's "the city is ruined" mantra that we have had for 3 years.[/p][/quote]That's not the mantra. The mantra is: "They're bringing our once great city to it's knees!". Gribbet
  • Score: 7

8:21am Sun 8 Jun 14

pachallis says...

@Clouseau and @Gribbet - no my mantra is 'incompetent irresponsible innumerate ideological immature eco-activists'.

@Motorcyclist - I'm very proud of what I have achieved in my life (unlike someone who uses a tagline of Motorcyclist!) and feel it is very important to highlight the green councils left-wing ambitions and that they are not 'fit for purpose'.

If as a result of this I can help get the green council out and get ANY other party in control then I will be very contented.
@Clouseau and @Gribbet - no my mantra is 'incompetent irresponsible innumerate ideological immature eco-activists'. @Motorcyclist - I'm very proud of what I have achieved in my life (unlike someone who uses a tagline of Motorcyclist!) and feel it is very important to highlight the green councils left-wing ambitions and that they are not 'fit for purpose'. If as a result of this I can help get the green council out and get ANY other party in control then I will be very contented. pachallis
  • Score: 12

8:29am Sun 8 Jun 14

pachallis says...

Morpheus wrote:
I don't see how this can work. The road is too narrow to widen the pavement and this will prevent any passing. All traffic will be held up when buses are at the stops. It is bad enough already after the council pavement widening schemes.
@Morpheus - I thought that too - will this scheme end up with even more congestion and pollution in the city centre as this is a major bus corridor?

Buses regularly have to overtake each other here. If buses only have 1 lane in each direction this must cause delays.

I assume that Davey's transport planners working with the bus companies have fully investigated this and done full traffic analysis?
[quote][p][bold]Morpheus[/bold] wrote: I don't see how this can work. The road is too narrow to widen the pavement and this will prevent any passing. All traffic will be held up when buses are at the stops. It is bad enough already after the council pavement widening schemes.[/p][/quote]@Morpheus - I thought that too - will this scheme end up with even more congestion and pollution in the city centre as this is a major bus corridor? Buses regularly have to overtake each other here. If buses only have 1 lane in each direction this must cause delays. I assume that Davey's transport planners working with the bus companies have fully investigated this and done full traffic analysis? pachallis
  • Score: 15

8:54am Sun 8 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

Motorcyclist wrote:
pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
pachallis wrote:
her professional wrote:
Over to you, moanerati.
Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way.

It actually looks good!

I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.
Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.
Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success?

Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city?

Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party!
You are a very pathetic little sheep Patchy. You must be very frustrated with your unfulfilled aspirations.
Careful! Patchy likes dishing out the insults but is very touchy getting back!

This looks like an interesting idea and will be commenting on the proposals. I hope lots of people add their voice and work towards a decent scheme. Don't let the moaners do down the city yet again.
[quote][p][bold]Motorcyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]her professional[/bold] wrote: Over to you, moanerati.[/p][/quote]Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way. It actually looks good! I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.[/p][/quote]Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.[/p][/quote]Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success? Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city? Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party![/p][/quote]You are a very pathetic little sheep Patchy. You must be very frustrated with your unfulfilled aspirations.[/p][/quote]Careful! Patchy likes dishing out the insults but is very touchy getting back! This looks like an interesting idea and will be commenting on the proposals. I hope lots of people add their voice and work towards a decent scheme. Don't let the moaners do down the city yet again. HJarrs
  • Score: -13

9:16am Sun 8 Jun 14

pachallis says...

HJarrs wrote:
Motorcyclist wrote:
pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
pachallis wrote:
her professional wrote:
Over to you, moanerati.
Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way.

It actually looks good!

I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.
Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.
Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success?

Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city?

Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party!
You are a very pathetic little sheep Patchy. You must be very frustrated with your unfulfilled aspirations.
Careful! Patchy likes dishing out the insults but is very touchy getting back!

This looks like an interesting idea and will be commenting on the proposals. I hope lots of people add their voice and work towards a decent scheme. Don't let the moaners do down the city yet again.
@Clouseau - so you won't answer my questions? Do the greens count this as one of their successes? What did the greens do to assist?

I don't think we 'moaneratii' are 'downing' the city - just the incompetent irresponsible greens who typically seek glory and publicity in anyone's successes and are only too willing to cast blame when anything goes wrong.

And are the greens so delicate noe that they can't accept criticism?
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Motorcyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]her professional[/bold] wrote: Over to you, moanerati.[/p][/quote]Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way. It actually looks good! I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.[/p][/quote]Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.[/p][/quote]Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success? Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city? Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party![/p][/quote]You are a very pathetic little sheep Patchy. You must be very frustrated with your unfulfilled aspirations.[/p][/quote]Careful! Patchy likes dishing out the insults but is very touchy getting back! This looks like an interesting idea and will be commenting on the proposals. I hope lots of people add their voice and work towards a decent scheme. Don't let the moaners do down the city yet again.[/p][/quote]@Clouseau - so you won't answer my questions? Do the greens count this as one of their successes? What did the greens do to assist? I don't think we 'moaneratii' are 'downing' the city - just the incompetent irresponsible greens who typically seek glory and publicity in anyone's successes and are only too willing to cast blame when anything goes wrong. And are the greens so delicate noe that they can't accept criticism? pachallis
  • Score: 14

9:41am Sun 8 Jun 14

Ihopenoonehasthisusername says...

I think it looks great, although I hope they don't have those low pavements that give pedestrians the impression it's traffic free....
I think it looks great, although I hope they don't have those low pavements that give pedestrians the impression it's traffic free.... Ihopenoonehasthisusername
  • Score: 9

10:31am Sun 8 Jun 14

ARMANA says...

Spend the money on some affordable homes !!!
Spend the money on some affordable homes !!! ARMANA
  • Score: -1

1:50pm Sun 8 Jun 14

thelieshurts says...

Since when has RBS owned the street.?
I assume the tax payer will not be paying for it.
North street is basically for bus passengers to change buses to other parts of the city and walk through from old steine to western road and back.
Since when has RBS owned the street.? I assume the tax payer will not be paying for it. North street is basically for bus passengers to change buses to other parts of the city and walk through from old steine to western road and back. thelieshurts
  • Score: -1

1:53pm Sun 8 Jun 14

thelieshurts says...

Since when has RBS owned the street.? (sounds like it)
I assume the tax payer will not be paying for it.
North street is basically for bus passengers to change buses to other parts of the city and walk through street from old steine to western road and back.
Since when has RBS owned the street.? (sounds like it) I assume the tax payer will not be paying for it. North street is basically for bus passengers to change buses to other parts of the city and walk through street from old steine to western road and back. thelieshurts
  • Score: -2

1:55pm Sun 8 Jun 14

thelieshurts says...

sorry.
sent twice didn't seem first time.
sorry. sent twice didn't seem first time. thelieshurts
  • Score: -1

1:57pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Gribbet says...

pachallis wrote:
@Clouseau and @Gribbet - no my mantra is 'incompetent irresponsible innumerate ideological immature eco-activists'.

@Motorcyclist - I'm very proud of what I have achieved in my life (unlike someone who uses a tagline of Motorcyclist!) and feel it is very important to highlight the green councils left-wing ambitions and that they are not 'fit for purpose'.

If as a result of this I can help get the green council out and get ANY other party in control then I will be very contented.
You have a lot of mantras, but none of them positive or constructive in any way.
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: @Clouseau and @Gribbet - no my mantra is 'incompetent irresponsible innumerate ideological immature eco-activists'. @Motorcyclist - I'm very proud of what I have achieved in my life (unlike someone who uses a tagline of Motorcyclist!) and feel it is very important to highlight the green councils left-wing ambitions and that they are not 'fit for purpose'. If as a result of this I can help get the green council out and get ANY other party in control then I will be very contented.[/p][/quote]You have a lot of mantras, but none of them positive or constructive in any way. Gribbet
  • Score: -3

3:18pm Sun 8 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Motorcyclist wrote:
pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
pachallis wrote:
her professional wrote:
Over to you, moanerati.
Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way.

It actually looks good!

I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.
Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.
Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success?

Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city?

Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party!
You are a very pathetic little sheep Patchy. You must be very frustrated with your unfulfilled aspirations.
Careful! Patchy likes dishing out the insults but is very touchy getting back!

This looks like an interesting idea and will be commenting on the proposals. I hope lots of people add their voice and work towards a decent scheme. Don't let the moaners do down the city yet again.
@Clouseau - so you won't answer my questions? Do the greens count this as one of their successes? What did the greens do to assist?

I don't think we 'moaneratii' are 'downing' the city - just the incompetent irresponsible greens who typically seek glory and publicity in anyone's successes and are only too willing to cast blame when anything goes wrong.

And are the greens so delicate noe that they can't accept criticism?
I suppose it is some sort of success if investment in the city is being made. The city must be seen as an attractive business proposition.

Clearly, unlike the moanerati, many businesses do not share the "city is ruined" nonsense we constantly read in the Argus comments.
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Motorcyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]her professional[/bold] wrote: Over to you, moanerati.[/p][/quote]Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way. It actually looks good! I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.[/p][/quote]Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.[/p][/quote]Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success? Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city? Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party![/p][/quote]You are a very pathetic little sheep Patchy. You must be very frustrated with your unfulfilled aspirations.[/p][/quote]Careful! Patchy likes dishing out the insults but is very touchy getting back! This looks like an interesting idea and will be commenting on the proposals. I hope lots of people add their voice and work towards a decent scheme. Don't let the moaners do down the city yet again.[/p][/quote]@Clouseau - so you won't answer my questions? Do the greens count this as one of their successes? What did the greens do to assist? I don't think we 'moaneratii' are 'downing' the city - just the incompetent irresponsible greens who typically seek glory and publicity in anyone's successes and are only too willing to cast blame when anything goes wrong. And are the greens so delicate noe that they can't accept criticism?[/p][/quote]I suppose it is some sort of success if investment in the city is being made. The city must be seen as an attractive business proposition. Clearly, unlike the moanerati, many businesses do not share the "city is ruined" nonsense we constantly read in the Argus comments. HJarrs
  • Score: -2

4:27pm Sun 8 Jun 14

brighton bluenose says...

NickBrt wrote:
The only thing Greens like doing with roads is sitting in them like that ridiculous MP of ours.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: The only thing Greens like doing with roads is sitting in them like that ridiculous MP of ours.[/p][/quote]Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz brighton bluenose
  • Score: -2

4:28pm Sun 8 Jun 14

FatherTed11 says...

Looking foward to the new seat so I can sit down and choke on the endless bus exhaust fumes.
Looking foward to the new seat so I can sit down and choke on the endless bus exhaust fumes. FatherTed11
  • Score: 5

4:33pm Sun 8 Jun 14

brighton bluenose says...

pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
pachallis wrote:
her professional wrote:
Over to you, moanerati.
Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way.

It actually looks good!

I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.
Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.
Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success?

Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city?

Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party!
Well I guess the Green-led council have given planning permission for the new lane in to Brighton Square and I'm guessing, though it isn't clear from this report, that the North St alterations are Section 106 works relating to this - which again would have been discussed and agreed with the Green-led council! One thing that doesn't seem to make sense though is moving the west-bound bus stops up the hill between MH Lane and Ship Street as this will surely cause congestion at the existing traffic lights?!
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]her professional[/bold] wrote: Over to you, moanerati.[/p][/quote]Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way. It actually looks good! I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.[/p][/quote]Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.[/p][/quote]Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success? Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city? Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party![/p][/quote]Well I guess the Green-led council have given planning permission for the new lane in to Brighton Square and I'm guessing, though it isn't clear from this report, that the North St alterations are Section 106 works relating to this - which again would have been discussed and agreed with the Green-led council! One thing that doesn't seem to make sense though is moving the west-bound bus stops up the hill between MH Lane and Ship Street as this will surely cause congestion at the existing traffic lights?! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 1

6:22pm Sun 8 Jun 14

pachallis says...

Gribbet wrote:
pachallis wrote:
@Clouseau and @Gribbet - no my mantra is 'incompetent irresponsible innumerate ideological immature eco-activists'.

@Motorcyclist - I'm very proud of what I have achieved in my life (unlike someone who uses a tagline of Motorcyclist!) and feel it is very important to highlight the green councils left-wing ambitions and that they are not 'fit for purpose'.

If as a result of this I can help get the green council out and get ANY other party in control then I will be very contented.
You have a lot of mantras, but none of them positive or constructive in any way.
It's just so difficult to say anything positive about the green party...
[quote][p][bold]Gribbet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: @Clouseau and @Gribbet - no my mantra is 'incompetent irresponsible innumerate ideological immature eco-activists'. @Motorcyclist - I'm very proud of what I have achieved in my life (unlike someone who uses a tagline of Motorcyclist!) and feel it is very important to highlight the green councils left-wing ambitions and that they are not 'fit for purpose'. If as a result of this I can help get the green council out and get ANY other party in control then I will be very contented.[/p][/quote]You have a lot of mantras, but none of them positive or constructive in any way.[/p][/quote]It's just so difficult to say anything positive about the green party... pachallis
  • Score: 1

6:30pm Sun 8 Jun 14

pachallis says...

HJarrs wrote:
pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Motorcyclist wrote:
pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
pachallis wrote:
her professional wrote:
Over to you, moanerati.
Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way.

It actually looks good!

I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.
Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.
Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success?

Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city?

Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party!
You are a very pathetic little sheep Patchy. You must be very frustrated with your unfulfilled aspirations.
Careful! Patchy likes dishing out the insults but is very touchy getting back!

This looks like an interesting idea and will be commenting on the proposals. I hope lots of people add their voice and work towards a decent scheme. Don't let the moaners do down the city yet again.
@Clouseau - so you won't answer my questions? Do the greens count this as one of their successes? What did the greens do to assist?

I don't think we 'moaneratii' are 'downing' the city - just the incompetent irresponsible greens who typically seek glory and publicity in anyone's successes and are only too willing to cast blame when anything goes wrong.

And are the greens so delicate noe that they can't accept criticism?
I suppose it is some sort of success if investment in the city is being made. The city must be seen as an attractive business proposition.

Clearly, unlike the moanerati, many businesses do not share the "city is ruined" nonsense we constantly read in the Argus comments.
RTFI "The owners of the former Hanningtons block said it is carrying out a regeneration project on the street in part because the shop units in the area suffer from high vacancy rates as a result of the very narrow footways crowded with waiting bus passengers.'.

So this is basically an investment to avoid losses with all the empty shopos thast seems to be caused by all the buses using North Street as a major interchange. I hope it works.

And contrary to your accusations I am in favour as I said at the beginning - I just don't see what the greens have done to help - it's just hilarious watching you greens going into paranoid defensive mode when anything is said against you!
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Motorcyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]her professional[/bold] wrote: Over to you, moanerati.[/p][/quote]Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way. It actually looks good! I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.[/p][/quote]Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.[/p][/quote]Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success? Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city? Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party![/p][/quote]You are a very pathetic little sheep Patchy. You must be very frustrated with your unfulfilled aspirations.[/p][/quote]Careful! Patchy likes dishing out the insults but is very touchy getting back! This looks like an interesting idea and will be commenting on the proposals. I hope lots of people add their voice and work towards a decent scheme. Don't let the moaners do down the city yet again.[/p][/quote]@Clouseau - so you won't answer my questions? Do the greens count this as one of their successes? What did the greens do to assist? I don't think we 'moaneratii' are 'downing' the city - just the incompetent irresponsible greens who typically seek glory and publicity in anyone's successes and are only too willing to cast blame when anything goes wrong. And are the greens so delicate noe that they can't accept criticism?[/p][/quote]I suppose it is some sort of success if investment in the city is being made. The city must be seen as an attractive business proposition. Clearly, unlike the moanerati, many businesses do not share the "city is ruined" nonsense we constantly read in the Argus comments.[/p][/quote]RTFI "The owners of the former Hanningtons block said it is carrying out a regeneration project on the street in part because the shop units in the area suffer from high vacancy rates as a result of the very narrow footways crowded with waiting bus passengers.'. So this is basically an investment to avoid losses with all the empty shopos thast seems to be caused by all the buses using North Street as a major interchange. I hope it works. And contrary to your accusations I am in favour as I said at the beginning - I just don't see what the greens have done to help - it's just hilarious watching you greens going into paranoid defensive mode when anything is said against you! pachallis
  • Score: 3

6:45pm Sun 8 Jun 14

HJarrs says...

You mean your desperate comments are falling flat.
You mean your desperate comments are falling flat. HJarrs
  • Score: -5

7:14pm Sun 8 Jun 14

pachallis says...

HJarrs wrote:
You mean your desperate comments are falling flat.
So nothing intelligent to come from Clouseau as usual...
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: You mean your desperate comments are falling flat.[/p][/quote]So nothing intelligent to come from Clouseau as usual... pachallis
  • Score: 1

8:07pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Carol Homewood says...

'The owners of the former Hanningtons block said it is carrying out a regeneration project on the street in part because the shop units in the area suffer from high vacancy rates as a result of the very narrow footways crowded with waiting bus passengers. '
I am pretty certain that the reason of high vacancy has nothing to do with over crowding on the pavement. Surely the area being busy with people would be good for business. Maybe the reason for the high vacancy rates would be due to the high rents of the properties?
Almost 100 years ago we demolished half of North Street because the roads were not wide enough and now they want to make them smaller?
Although I agree the street needs smartening up I am not sure pavement widening and benches is the answer. Maybe less trashy tourist shops would help?
'The owners of the former Hanningtons block said it is carrying out a regeneration project on the street in part because the shop units in the area suffer from high vacancy rates as a result of the very narrow footways crowded with waiting bus passengers. ' I am pretty certain that the reason of high vacancy has nothing to do with over crowding on the pavement. Surely the area being busy with people would be good for business. Maybe the reason for the high vacancy rates would be due to the high rents of the properties? Almost 100 years ago we demolished half of North Street because the roads were not wide enough and now they want to make them smaller? Although I agree the street needs smartening up I am not sure pavement widening and benches is the answer. Maybe less trashy tourist shops would help? Carol Homewood
  • Score: 11

10:12pm Sun 8 Jun 14

brighton bluenose says...

pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Motorcyclist wrote:
pachallis wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
pachallis wrote:
her professional wrote:
Over to you, moanerati.
Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way.

It actually looks good!

I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.
Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.
Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success?

Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city?

Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party!
You are a very pathetic little sheep Patchy. You must be very frustrated with your unfulfilled aspirations.
Careful! Patchy likes dishing out the insults but is very touchy getting back!

This looks like an interesting idea and will be commenting on the proposals. I hope lots of people add their voice and work towards a decent scheme. Don't let the moaners do down the city yet again.
@Clouseau - so you won't answer my questions? Do the greens count this as one of their successes? What did the greens do to assist?

I don't think we 'moaneratii' are 'downing' the city - just the incompetent irresponsible greens who typically seek glory and publicity in anyone's successes and are only too willing to cast blame when anything goes wrong.

And are the greens so delicate noe that they can't accept criticism?
I suppose it is some sort of success if investment in the city is being made. The city must be seen as an attractive business proposition.

Clearly, unlike the moanerati, many businesses do not share the "city is ruined" nonsense we constantly read in the Argus comments.
RTFI "The owners of the former Hanningtons block said it is carrying out a regeneration project on the street in part because the shop units in the area suffer from high vacancy rates as a result of the very narrow footways crowded with waiting bus passengers.'.

So this is basically an investment to avoid losses with all the empty shopos thast seems to be caused by all the buses using North Street as a major interchange. I hope it works.

And contrary to your accusations I am in favour as I said at the beginning - I just don't see what the greens have done to help - it's just hilarious watching you greens going into paranoid defensive mode when anything is said against you!
As already stated the Greens have given the planning permission and agreed these works - the Greens obviously GET THINGS DONE!!
[quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Motorcyclist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pachallis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]her professional[/bold] wrote: Over to you, moanerati.[/p][/quote]Why would we moan? Only paranoid greens who think that no one loves them would feel that way. It actually looks good! I'm also surprised the greens haven't managed to claim some of the glory as usual.[/p][/quote]Well given that the moanerati constantly tell us the city has been "ruined" and "anti-business" the vote of confidence by significant investment it the city make these claimed look ridiculous.[/p][/quote]Clouseau - So you are claiming this as a green success? Or is this the big banks, private finance and capitalism that the socialist green-left despise, actually helping the city? Please explain what the green council actually did to help this development? Mind you I probably won't believe you due to congenital lying. Just remember to blame everyone else for your c*ck-ups - what a wretched little party![/p][/quote]You are a very pathetic little sheep Patchy. You must be very frustrated with your unfulfilled aspirations.[/p][/quote]Careful! Patchy likes dishing out the insults but is very touchy getting back! This looks like an interesting idea and will be commenting on the proposals. I hope lots of people add their voice and work towards a decent scheme. Don't let the moaners do down the city yet again.[/p][/quote]@Clouseau - so you won't answer my questions? Do the greens count this as one of their successes? What did the greens do to assist? I don't think we 'moaneratii' are 'downing' the city - just the incompetent irresponsible greens who typically seek glory and publicity in anyone's successes and are only too willing to cast blame when anything goes wrong. And are the greens so delicate noe that they can't accept criticism?[/p][/quote]I suppose it is some sort of success if investment in the city is being made. The city must be seen as an attractive business proposition. Clearly, unlike the moanerati, many businesses do not share the "city is ruined" nonsense we constantly read in the Argus comments.[/p][/quote]RTFI "The owners of the former Hanningtons block said it is carrying out a regeneration project on the street in part because the shop units in the area suffer from high vacancy rates as a result of the very narrow footways crowded with waiting bus passengers.'. So this is basically an investment to avoid losses with all the empty shopos thast seems to be caused by all the buses using North Street as a major interchange. I hope it works. And contrary to your accusations I am in favour as I said at the beginning - I just don't see what the greens have done to help - it's just hilarious watching you greens going into paranoid defensive mode when anything is said against you![/p][/quote]As already stated the Greens have given the planning permission and agreed these works - the Greens obviously GET THINGS DONE!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -2

6:58am Mon 9 Jun 14

pachallis says...

@Brighton bluenose - 'As already stated the Greens have given the planning permission and agreed these works - the Greens obviously GET THINGS DONE!!'.

No you didn't - you said you THOUGHT the greens had been involved. What changed?

Great to see the Official Green Party Propaganda Machine spinning into action, suppressing views of ratepayers and wanting to claim they are the reason for any successes and blaming others for their failings!
@Brighton bluenose - 'As already stated the Greens have given the planning permission and agreed these works - the Greens obviously GET THINGS DONE!!'. No you didn't - you said you THOUGHT the greens had been involved. What changed? Great to see the Official Green Party Propaganda Machine spinning into action, suppressing views of ratepayers and wanting to claim they are the reason for any successes and blaming others for their failings! pachallis
  • Score: 2

2:36pm Mon 9 Jun 14

spa301 says...

Pachallis you're really upsetting the vegetables today. Seems like they're all steamed up by you, but your comments are all getting the thumbs up and theirs the usual downs so you're not alone. I personally really can't be ar**d to respond to them anymore as they simply say nothing new and next year they'll be irrelevant anyhow. They do seem really keen on over using the word moanerati . Not really a crushing insult is it?
Pachallis you're really upsetting the vegetables today. Seems like they're all steamed up by you, but your comments are all getting the thumbs up and theirs the usual downs so you're not alone. I personally really can't be ar**d to respond to them anymore as they simply say nothing new and next year they'll be irrelevant anyhow. They do seem really keen on over using the word moanerati . Not really a crushing insult is it? spa301
  • Score: 2

3:42pm Mon 9 Jun 14

s_james says...

Grow up, the lot of you
Grow up, the lot of you s_james
  • Score: 1

7:26pm Mon 9 Jun 14

pachallis says...

spa301 wrote:
Pachallis you're really upsetting the vegetables today. Seems like they're all steamed up by you, but your comments are all getting the thumbs up and theirs the usual downs so you're not alone. I personally really can't be ar**d to respond to them anymore as they simply say nothing new and next year they'll be irrelevant anyhow. They do seem really keen on over using the word moanerati . Not really a crushing insult is it?
@spa301 - thanks for the post.

The term 'moanerati' used by the greens doesn't worry me at all - it just means anyone who doesn't agree with the greens approach - which does seem to be a large proportion of The Argus web site users.

I wouldn't use the term 'vegetable' to describe them (but it does remind me of the Spitting Image Maggie Thatcher sketch) as the greens are much more dangerous and have, IMHO, doing very little of value to the city for residents, businesses and visitors.

Instead, the green councillors have focussed on their idealistic projects (too many to mention for now!) at the expense of the basic services such as refuse collection, street cleaning, litter collection and more recently cutting grass verges.

They now have to try to create the impression that they have actually delivered benefits by creative green-speak propaganda and can never seem to be able to provide any objective data to back up these claims or be able to identify what they actually did to cause the actual improvement.

What is really sad is that the greens have to rely on supposed fan-boys to act as their spokespersons on these boards, when those spokespersons are obviously active green party members acting to promote the green cause, and to attack the opposition parties (remember the anti-UKIP bile) and to insult those residents who dare to disagree with green policy.

When other parties do, very rarely, post to these boards they honestly identify themselves. The green supporters hide behind pseudonyms and do not want to be identified. Not, IMHO, the sign of a political party with any real 'back bone' – more the style of an activist wearing a mask to hide their identity.

@s_james - I'm sorry you think me being immature, but I feel passionately that the greens are doing very little of value to the city as a whole and are being driven by left-wing socialist eco-activist ideological aims and that we - the residents - the businesses - and visitors - are suffering as a result.
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: Pachallis you're really upsetting the vegetables today. Seems like they're all steamed up by you, but your comments are all getting the thumbs up and theirs the usual downs so you're not alone. I personally really can't be ar**d to respond to them anymore as they simply say nothing new and next year they'll be irrelevant anyhow. They do seem really keen on over using the word moanerati . Not really a crushing insult is it?[/p][/quote]@spa301 - thanks for the post. The term 'moanerati' used by the greens doesn't worry me at all - it just means anyone who doesn't agree with the greens approach - which does seem to be a large proportion of The Argus web site users. I wouldn't use the term 'vegetable' to describe them (but it does remind me of the Spitting Image Maggie Thatcher sketch) as the greens are much more dangerous and have, IMHO, doing very little of value to the city for residents, businesses and visitors. Instead, the green councillors have focussed on their idealistic projects (too many to mention for now!) at the expense of the basic services such as refuse collection, street cleaning, litter collection and more recently cutting grass verges. They now have to try to create the impression that they have actually delivered benefits by creative green-speak propaganda and can never seem to be able to provide any objective data to back up these claims or be able to identify what they actually did to cause the actual improvement. What is really sad is that the greens have to rely on supposed fan-boys to act as their spokespersons on these boards, when those spokespersons are obviously active green party members acting to promote the green cause, and to attack the opposition parties (remember the anti-UKIP bile) and to insult those residents who dare to disagree with green policy. When other parties do, very rarely, post to these boards they honestly identify themselves. The green supporters hide behind pseudonyms and do not want to be identified. Not, IMHO, the sign of a political party with any real 'back bone' – more the style of an activist wearing a mask to hide their identity. @s_james - I'm sorry you think me being immature, but I feel passionately that the greens are doing very little of value to the city as a whole and are being driven by left-wing socialist eco-activist ideological aims and that we - the residents - the businesses - and visitors - are suffering as a result. pachallis
  • Score: 2

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