Avoiding a puddle proves to be an expensive mistake for driver

Avoiding a puddle proves to be an expensive mistake for driver

Avoiding a puddle proves to be an expensive mistake for driver

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A MOTORIST was fined £50 for parking outside of a bay in a nearly deserted and flooded car park because she wanted to avoid stepping in a giant puddle.

Chris Daly said she moved her red Mazda MX5 less than half a metre over to avoid a giant puddle by her driver’s door.

But when she returned to the car park after a few hours’ shopping she found to her horror that she had been fined for failing to park in the bay.

The 63-year-old said the decision was “ludicrous” but councillors defended the move saying “it is a legal requirement to park within the marked bays”.

Mrs Daly is a former long-term resident of Burgess Hill, now living in Surrey.

She returns to the town on a weekly basis to visit family and friends.

She got the ticket when she parked in the multi-storey Martlets car park because of the rain.

She said: “On my level there was my car and four others.

“I parked and as I went to get out I realised there was a huge puddle so I moved my car a little to avoid this then paid the parking fee and went to shop.”

Mrs Daly said when she returned she saw that a warden had issued her with a £50 fine.

She said: “I challenged this on the basis of common sense and visitor goodwill but this was rejected on the basis that I could have moved to another space to avoid the puddle.

“While I have paid this fine, I have written again to express my anger at the ludicrous situation and a definite feeling of the law being an ass.

“At £50 a pop I won’t be visiting the town centre again and if this is the way that the council treats its visitors and supports Burgess Hill traders then I fear there is no hope for the town.”

Councillor Gary Marsh, cabinet member for property and economic development, said: “It is a legal requirement to park within the marked bays and this is made quite clear within our car parks.

“If, for any reason, a driver feels that they cannot park wholly within a certain bay, it is their responsibility to find a bay where they can park within the lines.

“If the car park is fairly empty, as has been intimated in this case, then this should not have been a problem.”

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9:38am Thu 12 Jun 14

Spooky Sue says...

I am sorry but I can't believe this lady was so inconsiderate, imagine the situation differently for a moment. The car park machine counts cars going into the car park, car park becomes full all but one space remaining, lady above drives in thinking she is getting the last space. Oh but hang on a minute some idiot has parked inbetween 2 bays hogging the last space, I bet she would feel rather angry and expect something to be done about it, after all a machine cannot tell if somebody has taken 2 bays on one entry ticket. Just think how you would like and expect to be treated and have the same respect for others too.
I am sorry but I can't believe this lady was so inconsiderate, imagine the situation differently for a moment. The car park machine counts cars going into the car park, car park becomes full all but one space remaining, lady above drives in thinking she is getting the last space. Oh but hang on a minute some idiot has parked inbetween 2 bays hogging the last space, I bet she would feel rather angry and expect something to be done about it, after all a machine cannot tell if somebody has taken 2 bays on one entry ticket. Just think how you would like and expect to be treated and have the same respect for others too. Spooky Sue
  • Score: 15

10:55am Thu 12 Jun 14

cookie_brighton says...

she should take legal action against the council under health and safety issues, firstly, I assume that there was no signs posted warning the public of the water ( puddle ) on the ground, secondly, for not ensuring public safety, by having water laying on the ground ( puddle).....removed.
.....look at the scenario if this was in a supermarket......if
she should take legal action against the council under health and safety issues, firstly, I assume that there was no signs posted warning the public of the water ( puddle ) on the ground, secondly, for not ensuring public safety, by having water laying on the ground ( puddle).....removed. .....look at the scenario if this was in a supermarket......if cookie_brighton
  • Score: -4

11:21am Thu 12 Jun 14

gheese77 says...

Looks like Steve Percys personal parking protest needs to expand to burgess hill
Looks like Steve Percys personal parking protest needs to expand to burgess hill gheese77
  • Score: 1

12:07pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Automaton says...

Clearly an idiot. If the car park was empty she should have parked in a space with no puddle.
Clearly an idiot. If the car park was empty she should have parked in a space with no puddle. Automaton
  • Score: 19

12:11pm Thu 12 Jun 14

BH lady says...

Spooky Sue wrote:
I am sorry but I can't believe this lady was so inconsiderate, imagine the situation differently for a moment. The car park machine counts cars going into the car park, car park becomes full all but one space remaining, lady above drives in thinking she is getting the last space. Oh but hang on a minute some idiot has parked inbetween 2 bays hogging the last space, I bet she would feel rather angry and expect something to be done about it, after all a machine cannot tell if somebody has taken 2 bays on one entry ticket. Just think how you would like and expect to be treated and have the same respect for others too.
Car park full? this is Burgess Hill not Brighton it's not that popular

This car park is always flooded, not just puddles but like a lake, perhaps the Council could spend some of the ticket money and the fines it collects to make it fit for purpose rather than just taking the money and failing to provide the facility they are charging for.

Surprised to see that Councillor Gary Marsh has bothered to reply, I have a letter from Mid Sussex District Council telling me that my Local Councillor, Mr Gary Marsh, does not get involved in individual cases.
[quote][p][bold]Spooky Sue[/bold] wrote: I am sorry but I can't believe this lady was so inconsiderate, imagine the situation differently for a moment. The car park machine counts cars going into the car park, car park becomes full all but one space remaining, lady above drives in thinking she is getting the last space. Oh but hang on a minute some idiot has parked inbetween 2 bays hogging the last space, I bet she would feel rather angry and expect something to be done about it, after all a machine cannot tell if somebody has taken 2 bays on one entry ticket. Just think how you would like and expect to be treated and have the same respect for others too.[/p][/quote]Car park full? this is Burgess Hill not Brighton it's not that popular This car park is always flooded, not just puddles but like a lake, perhaps the Council could spend some of the ticket money and the fines it collects to make it fit for purpose rather than just taking the money and failing to provide the facility they are charging for. Surprised to see that Councillor Gary Marsh has bothered to reply, I have a letter from Mid Sussex District Council telling me that my Local Councillor, Mr Gary Marsh, does not get involved in individual cases. BH lady
  • Score: -1

12:12pm Thu 12 Jun 14

BH lady says...

Spooky Sue wrote:
I am sorry but I can't believe this lady was so inconsiderate, imagine the situation differently for a moment. The car park machine counts cars going into the car park, car park becomes full all but one space remaining, lady above drives in thinking she is getting the last space. Oh but hang on a minute some idiot has parked inbetween 2 bays hogging the last space, I bet she would feel rather angry and expect something to be done about it, after all a machine cannot tell if somebody has taken 2 bays on one entry ticket. Just think how you would like and expect to be treated and have the same respect for others too.
Forgot to say you should see this car park in the winter, thick ice, looks like a skating rink, I saw a lady slip and fall and have heard of others
[quote][p][bold]Spooky Sue[/bold] wrote: I am sorry but I can't believe this lady was so inconsiderate, imagine the situation differently for a moment. The car park machine counts cars going into the car park, car park becomes full all but one space remaining, lady above drives in thinking she is getting the last space. Oh but hang on a minute some idiot has parked inbetween 2 bays hogging the last space, I bet she would feel rather angry and expect something to be done about it, after all a machine cannot tell if somebody has taken 2 bays on one entry ticket. Just think how you would like and expect to be treated and have the same respect for others too.[/p][/quote]Forgot to say you should see this car park in the winter, thick ice, looks like a skating rink, I saw a lady slip and fall and have heard of others BH lady
  • Score: 2

1:07pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Spooky Sue says...

I am sorry your council if it is them that run them does not see fit to keep your car parks in a fit for purpose state, I am lucky enough to live in worthing where our council has actually just had the b*lls to take control of our car parks back from money grabbing ogres and we now have decent car parks for £1 an hour 😃 . As someone who,has only ever visited Burgess Hill for VW camper parts at VW Heritage is there not an on road parking place to pay without visiting the swamp land car park so avoiding the puddles. Also if this is council run surely there should be some sort of grit/salt bin for cold weather use.
But if this lady is a former long term resident who visits frequently and the car park is always flooded as someone else said surely she knows the state of said car park so can't complain there was a puddle as if she had never seen one there before.
I am sorry your council if it is them that run them does not see fit to keep your car parks in a fit for purpose state, I am lucky enough to live in worthing where our council has actually just had the b*lls to take control of our car parks back from money grabbing ogres and we now have decent car parks for £1 an hour 😃 . As someone who,has only ever visited Burgess Hill for VW camper parts at VW Heritage is there not an on road parking place to pay without visiting the swamp land car park so avoiding the puddles. Also if this is council run surely there should be some sort of grit/salt bin for cold weather use. But if this lady is a former long term resident who visits frequently and the car park is always flooded as someone else said surely she knows the state of said car park so can't complain there was a puddle as if she had never seen one there before. Spooky Sue
  • Score: 5

1:27pm Thu 12 Jun 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

Why hasn't the council repaired their car park? If they're charging to park they have the money to pay for the repairs.

What is going on with our councils now?! They really have become unfit for purpose.
Why hasn't the council repaired their car park? If they're charging to park they have the money to pay for the repairs. What is going on with our councils now?! They really have become unfit for purpose. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: 1

4:25pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Gribbet says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
she should take legal action against the council under health and safety issues, firstly, I assume that there was no signs posted warning the public of the water ( puddle ) on the ground, secondly, for not ensuring public safety, by having water laying on the ground ( puddle).....removed.

.....look at the scenario if this was in a supermarket......if
What a terrible way of looking at things, trying to find a way to sue the council out of taxpayers money because of a puddle.
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: she should take legal action against the council under health and safety issues, firstly, I assume that there was no signs posted warning the public of the water ( puddle ) on the ground, secondly, for not ensuring public safety, by having water laying on the ground ( puddle).....removed. .....look at the scenario if this was in a supermarket......if[/p][/quote]What a terrible way of looking at things, trying to find a way to sue the council out of taxpayers money because of a puddle. Gribbet
  • Score: -1

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