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Ticketed Pride street party given go-ahead

The Argus: Ticketed Pride street party given go-ahead Ticketed Pride street party given go-ahead

THE FIRST ticketed Pride street party has been given the go-ahead with its route confirmed along one of Brighton’s busiest roads.

Brighton Pride organisers will close an area around St James’s Street in the city and charge revellers £5 to enter.

Organisers say the change is due to security concerns rather than a money making move, as Pride Village Party wristbands go on sale at the start of next month.

Last year more than 30,000 revellers were estimated to have flocked to St James’s Street and fears were raised that an uncontrolled influx of people could lead to a crushing incident.

As well as closing off St James’s Street up to the junction with Upper Rock Gardens, the seafront Marine Parade between the Aquarium roundabout and the New Steine will be closed on the evening of August 2 and for a large part of the next day.

The village party will have 29 participating bars and cafés, with entertainment set to run between 8pm and midnight on Saturday.

On Sunday celebrations will kick off from 2pm and will feature various entertainment zones with cabaret and disco performers and DJs until 8pm.

Roads will be closed from 4pm on Saturday to 3am on Sunday and then 2pm to 10pm on Sunday.

No glass will be allowed into the secure site, which will be marshalled by security staff and police officers.

The go-ahead for the changes was given following a public consultation which included a heated debate at Dorset Gardens Methodist Church.

Brighton Pride director Paul Kemp said he was working with the council, police, local businesses and residents to make the Pride Village Party a “safe and sustainable event” with a fundraising purpose.

He said: “We are really excited to have permission to extend the traditional boundaries of the party to Marine Parade, and we hope the city will join with us in making this a successful trial and creating a real community celebration that will be a fitting finale to the Pride weekend.

“It’s important that the support from business towards the fundraising effort should be recognised by the community so we will be publishing the funds raised through the ring fenced £1 from village party wristbands and Pride tickets sold in venues.”

Two-day £5 wristbands will be available online at brighton-pride.org or from local outlets and supporting venues from the beginning of July.

Residents and people working within the zone will receive free access wristbands.

More information will be sent to those affected by letter and will be posted on a residents’ information page on the Pride website.

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5:20pm Sun 22 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

"Organisers say the change is due to security concerns rather than a money making move"

OK, then why also state:

“It’s important that the support from business towards the fundraising effort should be recognised by the community so we will be publishing the funds raised through the ring fenced £1 from village party wristbands and Pride tickets sold in venues.”

Fund-raising is also 'money-making'.
"Organisers say the change is due to security concerns rather than a money making move" OK, then why also state: “It’s important that the support from business towards the fundraising effort should be recognised by the community so we will be publishing the funds raised through the ring fenced £1 from village party wristbands and Pride tickets sold in venues.” Fund-raising is also 'money-making'. stevo!!
  • Score: 13

5:25pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Roundbill says...

So what happens when people who live within the ring of steel turn up mid-evening, wanting to go home, but the whole site is already full and the security guards have been instructed that it's "one out, one in" until further notice?
So what happens when people who live within the ring of steel turn up mid-evening, wanting to go home, but the whole site is already full and the security guards have been instructed that it's "one out, one in" until further notice? Roundbill
  • Score: 29

5:53pm Sun 22 Jun 14

NathanAdler says...

The gays tend to be rich. No kids, no football season ticket and no wife with a credit card habit!!

Moisturizer and rubber pants do not cost a fortune do they?
The gays tend to be rich. No kids, no football season ticket and no wife with a credit card habit!! Moisturizer and rubber pants do not cost a fortune do they? NathanAdler
  • Score: -28

5:58pm Sun 22 Jun 14

rogerthefish says...

I've always thought all gay pride events were "one out, one in" events, now they've got a way of charging for access!
I've always thought all gay pride events were "one out, one in" events, now they've got a way of charging for access! rogerthefish
  • Score: 0

6:24pm Sun 22 Jun 14

MasonStorm says...

rogerthefish wrote:
I've always thought all gay pride events were "one out, one in" events, now they've got a way of charging for access!
Gays charging for 'one in' or 'one out' sounds a little like prostituion to me...
[quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: I've always thought all gay pride events were "one out, one in" events, now they've got a way of charging for access![/p][/quote]Gays charging for 'one in' or 'one out' sounds a little like prostituion to me... MasonStorm
  • Score: -12

7:54pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Take it Personally says...

£5? Just to get into a crowded street and pay inflated prices for drinks on top....well, that's the end of that then.
Since charging in the park, it's not as fun anymore and the fiasco to just get in isn't worth it.
I imagine the same will be for the street party. This will kill the whole event.
I'm sure something spontaneous and free will start up somewhere else in response and will no doubt be more fun.
At least the parade is free, no wait a minute... rumour has it, to be IN the parade itself each person has to pay £30! (Oh but all going to policing and good causes and all that)
£5? Just to get into a crowded street and pay inflated prices for drinks on top....well, that's the end of that then. Since charging in the park, it's not as fun anymore and the fiasco to just get in isn't worth it. I imagine the same will be for the street party. This will kill the whole event. I'm sure something spontaneous and free will start up somewhere else in response and will no doubt be more fun. At least the parade is free, no wait a minute... rumour has it, to be IN the parade itself each person has to pay £30! (Oh but all going to policing and good causes and all that) Take it Personally
  • Score: 28

8:54pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Hove Actually says...

This is just like the parking charge, starts off as a small area and when people move the Fun Tax will follow.

Also are friends of residents in the Military Zone allowed to visit free or do tax payers have to book visits like prisoners do now?
This is just like the parking charge, starts off as a small area and when people move the Fun Tax will follow. Also are friends of residents in the Military Zone allowed to visit free or do tax payers have to book visits like prisoners do now? Hove Actually
  • Score: 22

10:37pm Sun 22 Jun 14

NickBrt says...

Travellers will of course be allowed in for nothing.
Travellers will of course be allowed in for nothing. NickBrt
  • Score: 13

10:42pm Sun 22 Jun 14

KarenT says...

It's just a victim of it's own success. Too many people turning up - health and safety doesn't come for free.
It's just a victim of it's own success. Too many people turning up - health and safety doesn't come for free. KarenT
  • Score: 3

11:11pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Withdean-er says...

NathanAdler wrote:
The gays tend to be rich. No kids, no football season ticket and no wife with a credit card habit!!

Moisturizer and rubber pants do not cost a fortune do they?
The Pink Pound
[quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: The gays tend to be rich. No kids, no football season ticket and no wife with a credit card habit!! Moisturizer and rubber pants do not cost a fortune do they?[/p][/quote]The Pink Pound Withdean-er
  • Score: 6

2:54am Mon 23 Jun 14

Roundbill says...

Withdean-er wrote:
NathanAdler wrote:
The gays tend to be rich. No kids, no football season ticket and no wife with a credit card habit!!

Moisturizer and rubber pants do not cost a fortune do they?
The Pink Pound
Is that what they're calling the area inside the barriers?
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: The gays tend to be rich. No kids, no football season ticket and no wife with a credit card habit!! Moisturizer and rubber pants do not cost a fortune do they?[/p][/quote]The Pink Pound[/p][/quote]Is that what they're calling the area inside the barriers? Roundbill
  • Score: 7

7:58am Mon 23 Jun 14

hoveguyactually says...

As the city moves towards becoming a police state, how long will it be before there will be a charge to enter Brighton & Hove? This is a disastrous decision, and I hope it will be a huge failure. The only ones who will benefit will be the homophobes.
As the city moves towards becoming a police state, how long will it be before there will be a charge to enter Brighton & Hove? This is a disastrous decision, and I hope it will be a huge failure. The only ones who will benefit will be the homophobes. hoveguyactually
  • Score: 5

10:14am Mon 23 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
As the city moves towards becoming a police state, how long will it be before there will be a charge to enter Brighton & Hove? This is a disastrous decision, and I hope it will be a huge failure. The only ones who will benefit will be the homophobes.
And how will homophobes benefit from this decision?

No-one will be forcing anyone to enter the ticketed area.
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: As the city moves towards becoming a police state, how long will it be before there will be a charge to enter Brighton & Hove? This is a disastrous decision, and I hope it will be a huge failure. The only ones who will benefit will be the homophobes.[/p][/quote]And how will homophobes benefit from this decision? No-one will be forcing anyone to enter the ticketed area. stevo!!
  • Score: -1

10:28am Mon 23 Jun 14

kemptown75 says...

This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety.
The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway.
I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them.
We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers.
Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison.
SHAME ON YOU!!
This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety. The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway. I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them. We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers. Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison. SHAME ON YOU!! kemptown75
  • Score: 15

1:12pm Mon 23 Jun 14

her professional says...

kemptown75 wrote:
This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety.
The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway.
I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them.
We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers.
Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison.
SHAME ON YOU!!
If it's your local Morrison then you will have a free wrist band (read the article). If you live just outside, there are hundreds of outlets selling alcohol, as contributors to these forums never cease telling us. Or you could just possibly manage to do your shopping before 4 o clock Saturday afternoon.
Maybe a bit of control on the numbers entering the area will help prevent "piles of vomit and rubbish" as well.
BTW the Neanderthal level of "humour" on the various posts above just goes to show how important Pride still is. Yes, it's a shame it is commercialised, and it would be great if it was free and open to all, but numbers v space available dictate that it just ain't possible.
[quote][p][bold]kemptown75[/bold] wrote: This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety. The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway. I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them. We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers. Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison. SHAME ON YOU!![/p][/quote]If it's your local Morrison then you will have a free wrist band (read the article). If you live just outside, there are hundreds of outlets selling alcohol, as contributors to these forums never cease telling us. Or you could just possibly manage to do your shopping before 4 o clock Saturday afternoon. Maybe a bit of control on the numbers entering the area will help prevent "piles of vomit and rubbish" as well. BTW the Neanderthal level of "humour" on the various posts above just goes to show how important Pride still is. Yes, it's a shame it is commercialised, and it would be great if it was free and open to all, but numbers v space available dictate that it just ain't possible. her professional
  • Score: -6

3:44pm Mon 23 Jun 14

her professional says...

NathanAdler wrote:
The gays tend to be rich. No kids, no football season ticket and no wife with a credit card habit!!

Moisturizer and rubber pants do not cost a fortune do they?
And you tend to be exceptionally stupid.
[quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: The gays tend to be rich. No kids, no football season ticket and no wife with a credit card habit!! Moisturizer and rubber pants do not cost a fortune do they?[/p][/quote]And you tend to be exceptionally stupid. her professional
  • Score: 2

6:35pm Mon 23 Jun 14

KarenT says...

kemptown75 wrote:
This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety.
The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway.
I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them.
We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers.
Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison.
SHAME ON YOU!!
Stay home then.
[quote][p][bold]kemptown75[/bold] wrote: This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety. The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway. I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them. We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers. Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison. SHAME ON YOU!![/p][/quote]Stay home then. KarenT
  • Score: -5

6:41pm Mon 23 Jun 14

KarenT says...

her professional wrote:
kemptown75 wrote:
This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety.
The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway.
I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them.
We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers.
Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison.
SHAME ON YOU!!
If it's your local Morrison then you will have a free wrist band (read the article). If you live just outside, there are hundreds of outlets selling alcohol, as contributors to these forums never cease telling us. Or you could just possibly manage to do your shopping before 4 o clock Saturday afternoon.
Maybe a bit of control on the numbers entering the area will help prevent "piles of vomit and rubbish" as well.
BTW the Neanderthal level of "humour" on the various posts above just goes to show how important Pride still is. Yes, it's a shame it is commercialised, and it would be great if it was free and open to all, but numbers v space available dictate that it just ain't possible.
Exactly! It's become too popular, so it can't be free. As soon as you get these sort of numbers in terms of attendees you have to pay for health and safety professionals, people to control the crowds! I have a friend who works in health & safety in public events and as soon as people attending reach a certain number there is a legal obligation to manage it professionally, and that costs money! It might even make it a better event, in that you won't have the mobs of teenagers from the local estates piling in to queer-bash and get so **** until they can't even walk. As soon as something that was once free starts to charge all the freeloaders start complaining. Get yourselves a few bottles of Asti Spumante and stay home!
[quote][p][bold]her professional[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kemptown75[/bold] wrote: This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety. The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway. I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them. We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers. Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison. SHAME ON YOU!![/p][/quote]If it's your local Morrison then you will have a free wrist band (read the article). If you live just outside, there are hundreds of outlets selling alcohol, as contributors to these forums never cease telling us. Or you could just possibly manage to do your shopping before 4 o clock Saturday afternoon. Maybe a bit of control on the numbers entering the area will help prevent "piles of vomit and rubbish" as well. BTW the Neanderthal level of "humour" on the various posts above just goes to show how important Pride still is. Yes, it's a shame it is commercialised, and it would be great if it was free and open to all, but numbers v space available dictate that it just ain't possible.[/p][/quote]Exactly! It's become too popular, so it can't be free. As soon as you get these sort of numbers in terms of attendees you have to pay for health and safety professionals, people to control the crowds! I have a friend who works in health & safety in public events and as soon as people attending reach a certain number there is a legal obligation to manage it professionally, and that costs money! It might even make it a better event, in that you won't have the mobs of teenagers from the local estates piling in to queer-bash and get so **** until they can't even walk. As soon as something that was once free starts to charge all the freeloaders start complaining. Get yourselves a few bottles of Asti Spumante and stay home! KarenT
  • Score: -2

7:26pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

kemptown75 wrote:
This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety.
The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway.
I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them.
We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers.
Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison.
SHAME ON YOU!!
Nail on the head , Pride is about being inclusive to all. With charging it will become more 'Gay only' which is not what Pride is about is it? Isn't Pride about gaining respect from the general public? Passing curious members of the public will not now walk through the street party and mingle to find out what it's about. Making a charge does not seem welcoming, and the street party will look like a 'club' to the casual visitor.
[quote][p][bold]kemptown75[/bold] wrote: This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety. The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway. I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them. We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers. Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison. SHAME ON YOU!![/p][/quote]Nail on the head , Pride is about being inclusive to all. With charging it will become more 'Gay only' which is not what Pride is about is it? Isn't Pride about gaining respect from the general public? Passing curious members of the public will not now walk through the street party and mingle to find out what it's about. Making a charge does not seem welcoming, and the street party will look like a 'club' to the casual visitor. Telscombe Cliffy
  • Score: 4

7:36pm Mon 23 Jun 14

KarenT says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
kemptown75 wrote:
This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety.
The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway.
I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them.
We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers.
Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison.
SHAME ON YOU!!
Nail on the head , Pride is about being inclusive to all. With charging it will become more 'Gay only' which is not what Pride is about is it? Isn't Pride about gaining respect from the general public? Passing curious members of the public will not now walk through the street party and mingle to find out what it's about. Making a charge does not seem welcoming, and the street party will look like a 'club' to the casual visitor.
It won't make it "gay only" - it will make it people who are prepared to part with a few quid to go to a street party, and pay for organisers and services needed to accommodate such a large crowd. If it were a 'non-gay' festival it would be OK to charge then? WHY do gay people have to keep public events "free" to court acceptance and respect from the general public anyway??? They're not second-class citizens or freaks that have to make themselves palatable to the general public by offering free festivals! Jeez...
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kemptown75[/bold] wrote: This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety. The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway. I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them. We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers. Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison. SHAME ON YOU!![/p][/quote]Nail on the head , Pride is about being inclusive to all. With charging it will become more 'Gay only' which is not what Pride is about is it? Isn't Pride about gaining respect from the general public? Passing curious members of the public will not now walk through the street party and mingle to find out what it's about. Making a charge does not seem welcoming, and the street party will look like a 'club' to the casual visitor.[/p][/quote]It won't make it "gay only" - it will make it people who are prepared to part with a few quid to go to a street party, and pay for organisers and services needed to accommodate such a large crowd. If it were a 'non-gay' festival it would be OK to charge then? WHY do gay people have to keep public events "free" to court acceptance and respect from the general public anyway??? They're not second-class citizens or freaks that have to make themselves palatable to the general public by offering free festivals! Jeez... KarenT
  • Score: -2

7:41pm Mon 23 Jun 14

KarenT says...

Crikey... just read what you said... that passing curious members of the public will be dissuaded from mingling to find out 'what it's all about'... This is the 21st Century! You're talking like it some freak show from the 1900's!!! It's just same sex couples FFS! Not a bunch of misfits trying to garner public acceptance! Sheesh.
Crikey... just read what you said... that passing curious members of the public will be dissuaded from mingling to find out 'what it's all about'... This is the 21st Century! You're talking like it some freak show from the 1900's!!! It's just same sex couples FFS! Not a bunch of misfits trying to garner public acceptance! Sheesh. KarenT
  • Score: -2

9:29pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

KarenT wrote:
Crikey... just read what you said... that passing curious members of the public will be dissuaded from mingling to find out 'what it's all about'... This is the 21st Century! You're talking like it some freak show from the 1900's!!! It's just same sex couples FFS! Not a bunch of misfits trying to garner public acceptance! Sheesh.
You're wrong, probably over 80% of the public have not experienced Gay Pride, even though we are as you say in the 21st century. It's not a freak show, but as I say most people don't come into contact with the gay community, especially outside Brighton and other big cities, so make it welcoming to them. At the end of the day if the Pride goal works to overcome all prejudices one day it won't be needed. Also, try to calm down and not take everyone's opinions on here as an attack, most are constructive. I've seen charging and over policing like this ruin many traditional events in this country and would not like to see another lose its unique identity/atmosphere.
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: Crikey... just read what you said... that passing curious members of the public will be dissuaded from mingling to find out 'what it's all about'... This is the 21st Century! You're talking like it some freak show from the 1900's!!! It's just same sex couples FFS! Not a bunch of misfits trying to garner public acceptance! Sheesh.[/p][/quote]You're wrong, probably over 80% of the public have not experienced Gay Pride, even though we are as you say in the 21st century. It's not a freak show, but as I say most people don't come into contact with the gay community, especially outside Brighton and other big cities, so make it welcoming to them. At the end of the day if the Pride goal works to overcome all prejudices one day it won't be needed. Also, try to calm down and not take everyone's opinions on here as an attack, most are constructive. I've seen charging and over policing like this ruin many traditional events in this country and would not like to see another lose its unique identity/atmosphere. Telscombe Cliffy
  • Score: 1

9:44pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

KarenT wrote:
Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
kemptown75 wrote:
This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety.
The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway.
I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them.
We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers.
Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison.
SHAME ON YOU!!
Nail on the head , Pride is about being inclusive to all. With charging it will become more 'Gay only' which is not what Pride is about is it? Isn't Pride about gaining respect from the general public? Passing curious members of the public will not now walk through the street party and mingle to find out what it's about. Making a charge does not seem welcoming, and the street party will look like a 'club' to the casual visitor.
It won't make it "gay only" - it will make it people who are prepared to part with a few quid to go to a street party, and pay for organisers and services needed to accommodate such a large crowd. If it were a 'non-gay' festival it would be OK to charge then? WHY do gay people have to keep public events "free" to court acceptance and respect from the general public anyway??? They're not second-class citizens or freaks that have to make themselves palatable to the general public by offering free festivals! Jeez...
If it was a non- gay event ,no, still not acceptable to charge on a public street. Free speech, freedom to be what you want or be, and freedom of our streets. They don't charge for Kemptown Carnival and it's much bigger.
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kemptown75[/bold] wrote: This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety. The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway. I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them. We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers. Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison. SHAME ON YOU!![/p][/quote]Nail on the head , Pride is about being inclusive to all. With charging it will become more 'Gay only' which is not what Pride is about is it? Isn't Pride about gaining respect from the general public? Passing curious members of the public will not now walk through the street party and mingle to find out what it's about. Making a charge does not seem welcoming, and the street party will look like a 'club' to the casual visitor.[/p][/quote]It won't make it "gay only" - it will make it people who are prepared to part with a few quid to go to a street party, and pay for organisers and services needed to accommodate such a large crowd. If it were a 'non-gay' festival it would be OK to charge then? WHY do gay people have to keep public events "free" to court acceptance and respect from the general public anyway??? They're not second-class citizens or freaks that have to make themselves palatable to the general public by offering free festivals! Jeez...[/p][/quote]If it was a non- gay event ,no, still not acceptable to charge on a public street. Free speech, freedom to be what you want or be, and freedom of our streets. They don't charge for Kemptown Carnival and it's much bigger. Telscombe Cliffy
  • Score: 5

10:40pm Mon 23 Jun 14

KarenT says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
KarenT wrote:
Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
kemptown75 wrote:
This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety.
The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway.
I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them.
We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers.
Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison.
SHAME ON YOU!!
Nail on the head , Pride is about being inclusive to all. With charging it will become more 'Gay only' which is not what Pride is about is it? Isn't Pride about gaining respect from the general public? Passing curious members of the public will not now walk through the street party and mingle to find out what it's about. Making a charge does not seem welcoming, and the street party will look like a 'club' to the casual visitor.
It won't make it "gay only" - it will make it people who are prepared to part with a few quid to go to a street party, and pay for organisers and services needed to accommodate such a large crowd. If it were a 'non-gay' festival it would be OK to charge then? WHY do gay people have to keep public events "free" to court acceptance and respect from the general public anyway??? They're not second-class citizens or freaks that have to make themselves palatable to the general public by offering free festivals! Jeez...
If it was a non- gay event ,no, still not acceptable to charge on a public street. Free speech, freedom to be what you want or be, and freedom of our streets. They don't charge for Kemptown Carnival and it's much bigger.
Kemptown Festival is funded by The Arts Council, various charities, and kickstarter campaigns - it's not free! So who is going to pay for organising, management and health and safety of the Pride street festival I wonder? What the heck does 'free speech' and 'freedom' have to do with it? It still costs money to put on events of this size - WHO is going to pay? Or shall we just forget about crowd control and health & safety and just let people get hurt? Yeah, that sounds a good idea.
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kemptown75[/bold] wrote: This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety. The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway. I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them. We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers. Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison. SHAME ON YOU!![/p][/quote]Nail on the head , Pride is about being inclusive to all. With charging it will become more 'Gay only' which is not what Pride is about is it? Isn't Pride about gaining respect from the general public? Passing curious members of the public will not now walk through the street party and mingle to find out what it's about. Making a charge does not seem welcoming, and the street party will look like a 'club' to the casual visitor.[/p][/quote]It won't make it "gay only" - it will make it people who are prepared to part with a few quid to go to a street party, and pay for organisers and services needed to accommodate such a large crowd. If it were a 'non-gay' festival it would be OK to charge then? WHY do gay people have to keep public events "free" to court acceptance and respect from the general public anyway??? They're not second-class citizens or freaks that have to make themselves palatable to the general public by offering free festivals! Jeez...[/p][/quote]If it was a non- gay event ,no, still not acceptable to charge on a public street. Free speech, freedom to be what you want or be, and freedom of our streets. They don't charge for Kemptown Carnival and it's much bigger.[/p][/quote]Kemptown Festival is funded by The Arts Council, various charities, and kickstarter campaigns - it's not free! So who is going to pay for organising, management and health and safety of the Pride street festival I wonder? What the heck does 'free speech' and 'freedom' have to do with it? It still costs money to put on events of this size - WHO is going to pay? Or shall we just forget about crowd control and health & safety and just let people get hurt? Yeah, that sounds a good idea. KarenT
  • Score: -4

10:46pm Mon 23 Jun 14

KarenT says...

stevo!! wrote:
"Isn't Pride about gaining respect from the general public?"

Funny, but I've always thought it was something to do with sticking two fingers up to the public.

"You're talking like it some freak show from the 1900's!!! It's just same sex couples"

You'd be amazed how many people view it as a freak show, especially with the conduct of some of the participants.
"Gaining respect from the general public"? The poor little gays, just desperate to be accepted by the general public. And no it's not about "sticking two fingers up" to anything - it's an event for the LGBT community celebrating lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) culture and pride. Being gay today is hardly radical or anarchic. And if there are people out there who still view it as a freak show and find the conduct offensive then they will do whether admission is charged or not. So they may as well just stay home and suck lemons.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: "Isn't Pride about gaining respect from the general public?" Funny, but I've always thought it was something to do with sticking two fingers up to the public. "You're talking like it some freak show from the 1900's!!! It's just same sex couples" You'd be amazed how many people view it as a freak show, especially with the conduct of some of the participants.[/p][/quote]"Gaining respect from the general public"? The poor little gays, just desperate to be accepted by the general public. And no it's not about "sticking two fingers up" to anything - it's an event for the LGBT community celebrating lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) culture and pride. Being gay today is hardly radical or anarchic. And if there are people out there who still view it as a freak show and find the conduct offensive then they will do whether admission is charged or not. So they may as well just stay home and suck lemons. KarenT
  • Score: -5

11:03pm Mon 23 Jun 14

KarenT says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
KarenT wrote:
Crikey... just read what you said... that passing curious members of the public will be dissuaded from mingling to find out 'what it's all about'... This is the 21st Century! You're talking like it some freak show from the 1900's!!! It's just same sex couples FFS! Not a bunch of misfits trying to garner public acceptance! Sheesh.
You're wrong, probably over 80% of the public have not experienced Gay Pride, even though we are as you say in the 21st century. It's not a freak show, but as I say most people don't come into contact with the gay community, especially outside Brighton and other big cities, so make it welcoming to them. At the end of the day if the Pride goal works to overcome all prejudices one day it won't be needed. Also, try to calm down and not take everyone's opinions on here as an attack, most are constructive. I've seen charging and over policing like this ruin many traditional events in this country and would not like to see another lose its unique identity/atmosphere.
Well then that 80% of the public can just turn up and watch the parade, or attend the many smaller free festivals that happen around Pride throughout B&H. Why do they need to go to the Kemptown Festival too? It's just a load of people standing around drinking outside the pubs and listening to music. And most people DO come into contact with gays - they just aren't aware of it as most people in their day-to-day lives do not advertise their sexual preferences. Do people need to attend a fetishist or wife-swapping party in order to "understand" it? There's nothing to understand - different strokes for different folks. If it doesn't rock your boat then don't go, simple. Just accept that some people have different lifestyles and let them get on with it. You or anyone do not need to be convinced that any of these people with different lifestyles are acceptable or not - because it doesn't really matter what you think. Public events like the Pride Kemptown Festival keeps growing in popularity, and it is held in a fairly confined space - it needs control and people management to keep people safe. And... that's important, AND costs money! People just grumble about Pride no matter what - and having to part with a few quid to go to the heavily attended festival in St James Street is just yet another reason to moan. One doesn't need to "experience Pride" to be forward-thinking enough to just be tolerant. It's not meant to be an educational exercise.
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: Crikey... just read what you said... that passing curious members of the public will be dissuaded from mingling to find out 'what it's all about'... This is the 21st Century! You're talking like it some freak show from the 1900's!!! It's just same sex couples FFS! Not a bunch of misfits trying to garner public acceptance! Sheesh.[/p][/quote]You're wrong, probably over 80% of the public have not experienced Gay Pride, even though we are as you say in the 21st century. It's not a freak show, but as I say most people don't come into contact with the gay community, especially outside Brighton and other big cities, so make it welcoming to them. At the end of the day if the Pride goal works to overcome all prejudices one day it won't be needed. Also, try to calm down and not take everyone's opinions on here as an attack, most are constructive. I've seen charging and over policing like this ruin many traditional events in this country and would not like to see another lose its unique identity/atmosphere.[/p][/quote]Well then that 80% of the public can just turn up and watch the parade, or attend the many smaller free festivals that happen around Pride throughout B&H. Why do they need to go to the Kemptown Festival too? It's just a load of people standing around drinking outside the pubs and listening to music. And most people DO come into contact with gays - they just aren't aware of it as most people in their day-to-day lives do not advertise their sexual preferences. Do people need to attend a fetishist or wife-swapping party in order to "understand" it? There's nothing to understand - different strokes for different folks. If it doesn't rock your boat then don't go, simple. Just accept that some people have different lifestyles and let them get on with it. You or anyone do not need to be convinced that any of these people with different lifestyles are acceptable or not - because it doesn't really matter what you think. Public events like the Pride Kemptown Festival keeps growing in popularity, and it is held in a fairly confined space - it needs control and people management to keep people safe. And... that's important, AND costs money! People just grumble about Pride no matter what - and having to part with a few quid to go to the heavily attended festival in St James Street is just yet another reason to moan. One doesn't need to "experience Pride" to be forward-thinking enough to just be tolerant. It's not meant to be an educational exercise. KarenT
  • Score: 1

11:05pm Mon 23 Jun 14

KarenT says...

stevo!! wrote:
" And if there are people out there who still view it as a freak show and find the conduct offensive then they will do whether admission is charged or not. So they may as well just stay home and suck lemons."

So their city is closed to them that day?

You know, thousands of Brighton residents will be having a normal summer Saturday not even noticing the Pride events.
So which is it - the city is "closed to them for the day", or thousands will be having a "normal" summer Saturday not even noticing the events? I don't follow you.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: " And if there are people out there who still view it as a freak show and find the conduct offensive then they will do whether admission is charged or not. So they may as well just stay home and suck lemons." So their city is closed to them that day? You know, thousands of Brighton residents will be having a normal summer Saturday not even noticing the Pride events.[/p][/quote]So which is it - the city is "closed to them for the day", or thousands will be having a "normal" summer Saturday not even noticing the events? I don't follow you. KarenT
  • Score: 1

11:52pm Mon 23 Jun 14

power_ranger says...

I suggest we all just go drink on the beach while that's free. This is now an event for out of town tourists, locals will make our own entertainment elsewhere.
I suggest we all just go drink on the beach while that's free. This is now an event for out of town tourists, locals will make our own entertainment elsewhere. power_ranger
  • Score: 4

11:54pm Mon 23 Jun 14

abracadab says...

It's just sad, the spirit of 'festival' has been lost when you have to buy a ticket to take part.
It's just sad, the spirit of 'festival' has been lost when you have to buy a ticket to take part. abracadab
  • Score: 5

9:30am Tue 24 Jun 14

KarenT says...

Then why are you complaining about the city being "closed for them" then if they're going to get on with their lives completely unhindered? Make up your mind. And I thought we were talking about the price of tickets - now you're banging on about depravity, etc. You are obviously a nutjob who needs to wash his brain out with soap and I am off to work. Work. Remember that thing? No, don't suppose you do... Bye loser.
Then why are you complaining about the city being "closed for them" then if they're going to get on with their lives completely unhindered? Make up your mind. And I thought we were talking about the price of tickets - now you're banging on about depravity, etc. You are obviously a nutjob who needs to wash his brain out with soap and I am off to work. Work. Remember that thing? No, don't suppose you do... Bye loser. KarenT
  • Score: -2

9:33am Tue 24 Jun 14

KarenT says...

power_ranger wrote:
I suggest we all just go drink on the beach while that's free. This is now an event for out of town tourists, locals will make our own entertainment elsewhere.
Sounds good. Just after you've gotten rat-arsed on the beach try and make sure you use the loos instead of p1ssing up against the walls.
[quote][p][bold]power_ranger[/bold] wrote: I suggest we all just go drink on the beach while that's free. This is now an event for out of town tourists, locals will make our own entertainment elsewhere.[/p][/quote]Sounds good. Just after you've gotten rat-arsed on the beach try and make sure you use the loos instead of p1ssing up against the walls. KarenT
  • Score: -1

9:37am Tue 24 Jun 14

KarenT says...

abracadab wrote:
It's just sad, the spirit of 'festival' has been lost when you have to buy a ticket to take part.
"Sad"? That they've decided to hire people safety and management folks, and start charging? You mean the spirit of the FREE festival for liggers has been lost I think. Boohoo, go cry into a beer somewhere. It'll cost you a couple of quid though...
[quote][p][bold]abracadab[/bold] wrote: It's just sad, the spirit of 'festival' has been lost when you have to buy a ticket to take part.[/p][/quote]"Sad"? That they've decided to hire people safety and management folks, and start charging? You mean the spirit of the FREE festival for liggers has been lost I think. Boohoo, go cry into a beer somewhere. It'll cost you a couple of quid though... KarenT
  • Score: -1

10:19am Tue 24 Jun 14

julesgemini says...

kemptown75 wrote:
This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety.
The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway.
I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them.
We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers.
Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison.
SHAME ON YOU!!
I understand the need to raise money to pay for policing etc. When it was free people apparently didn't donate enough as well as very bad pride management a few years ago. Why cant there be a £10 flat charge on the day you get a wristband for access to the park and street party. If anyone doesn't have one on they will be looked down on by others who have donated?
[quote][p][bold]kemptown75[/bold] wrote: This is clearly a money making scheme and nothing at all to do with health & safety. The consultation meetings were a farce; most that attended were very much against the proposals but were told it’s going to happen anyway. I believe the majority of people living in the affected area still don’t know about the proposals and how much they will be affected by them. We the residents have been totally ignored by the organisers. Extending the street party to include the seafront will obviously make the event much more popular. Bottlenecks will occur in the residential streets linking the two street parties. Residents can expect major problems just getting in & out of the homes, not to mention the piles of rubbish & vomit filling the basement properties. Thanks Pride. Pride was supposed to be inclusive to all, what is left now? You need to pay to walk in the parade, party in the park & now pay to stand in the street or even buy alcohol at your local Morrison. SHAME ON YOU!![/p][/quote]I understand the need to raise money to pay for policing etc. When it was free people apparently didn't donate enough as well as very bad pride management a few years ago. Why cant there be a £10 flat charge on the day you get a wristband for access to the park and street party. If anyone doesn't have one on they will be looked down on by others who have donated? julesgemini
  • Score: 0

11:38am Tue 24 Jun 14

her professional says...

abracadab wrote:
It's just sad, the spirit of 'festival' has been lost when you have to buy a ticket to take part.
How many free festivals do you go to then? And who do you think should pay for all the organisation, h & s, toilets, admin etc etc?
[quote][p][bold]abracadab[/bold] wrote: It's just sad, the spirit of 'festival' has been lost when you have to buy a ticket to take part.[/p][/quote]How many free festivals do you go to then? And who do you think should pay for all the organisation, h & s, toilets, admin etc etc? her professional
  • Score: 2

11:44am Tue 24 Jun 14

her professional says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
KarenT wrote:
Crikey... just read what you said... that passing curious members of the public will be dissuaded from mingling to find out 'what it's all about'... This is the 21st Century! You're talking like it some freak show from the 1900's!!! It's just same sex couples FFS! Not a bunch of misfits trying to garner public acceptance! Sheesh.
You're wrong, probably over 80% of the public have not experienced Gay Pride, even though we are as you say in the 21st century. It's not a freak show, but as I say most people don't come into contact with the gay community, especially outside Brighton and other big cities, so make it welcoming to them. At the end of the day if the Pride goal works to overcome all prejudices one day it won't be needed. Also, try to calm down and not take everyone's opinions on here as an attack, most are constructive. I've seen charging and over policing like this ruin many traditional events in this country and would not like to see another lose its unique identity/atmosphere.
How many free festivals do you go to then? And who do you think should pay for all the organisation, h & s, toilets, admin etc etc?
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: Crikey... just read what you said... that passing curious members of the public will be dissuaded from mingling to find out 'what it's all about'... This is the 21st Century! You're talking like it some freak show from the 1900's!!! It's just same sex couples FFS! Not a bunch of misfits trying to garner public acceptance! Sheesh.[/p][/quote]You're wrong, probably over 80% of the public have not experienced Gay Pride, even though we are as you say in the 21st century. It's not a freak show, but as I say most people don't come into contact with the gay community, especially outside Brighton and other big cities, so make it welcoming to them. At the end of the day if the Pride goal works to overcome all prejudices one day it won't be needed. Also, try to calm down and not take everyone's opinions on here as an attack, most are constructive. I've seen charging and over policing like this ruin many traditional events in this country and would not like to see another lose its unique identity/atmosphere.[/p][/quote]How many free festivals do you go to then? And who do you think should pay for all the organisation, h & s, toilets, admin etc etc? her professional
  • Score: 2

11:44am Tue 24 Jun 14

Take it Personally says...

KarenT wrote:
abracadab wrote:
It's just sad, the spirit of 'festival' has been lost when you have to buy a ticket to take part.
"Sad"? That they've decided to hire people safety and management folks, and start charging? You mean the spirit of the FREE festival for liggers has been lost I think. Boohoo, go cry into a beer somewhere. It'll cost you a couple of quid though...
Wow, KarenT please be a bit respectful. Unfortunately it's sour attitudes and strong defensiveness like yours that gets people's backs up. (even mine).
As a gay man, I'm not pleased with the decision to rope off and ticket this event and I think it sends out the wrong message AND it does exclude hence not everyone will be able to attend.
I understand the argument for safety, but Pride is starting to make a lot of money now (including charging people who walk in the parade £30 each).
It's becoming a pink cash cow.
Calm the attitude please you're not doing the gay community any favours by winding people up or being rude.
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abracadab[/bold] wrote: It's just sad, the spirit of 'festival' has been lost when you have to buy a ticket to take part.[/p][/quote]"Sad"? That they've decided to hire people safety and management folks, and start charging? You mean the spirit of the FREE festival for liggers has been lost I think. Boohoo, go cry into a beer somewhere. It'll cost you a couple of quid though...[/p][/quote]Wow, KarenT please be a bit respectful. Unfortunately it's sour attitudes and strong defensiveness like yours that gets people's backs up. (even mine). As a gay man, I'm not pleased with the decision to rope off and ticket this event and I think it sends out the wrong message AND it does exclude hence not everyone will be able to attend. I understand the argument for safety, but Pride is starting to make a lot of money now (including charging people who walk in the parade £30 each). It's becoming a pink cash cow. Calm the attitude please you're not doing the gay community any favours by winding people up or being rude. Take it Personally
  • Score: 4

11:52am Tue 24 Jun 14

her professional says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
KarenT wrote:
Crikey... just read what you said... that passing curious members of the public will be dissuaded from mingling to find out 'what it's all about'... This is the 21st Century! You're talking like it some freak show from the 1900's!!! It's just same sex couples FFS! Not a bunch of misfits trying to garner public acceptance! Sheesh.
You're wrong, probably over 80% of the public have not experienced Gay Pride, even though we are as you say in the 21st century. It's not a freak show, but as I say most people don't come into contact with the gay community, especially outside Brighton and other big cities, so make it welcoming to them. At the end of the day if the Pride goal works to overcome all prejudices one day it won't be needed. Also, try to calm down and not take everyone's opinions on here as an attack, most are constructive. I've seen charging and over policing like this ruin many traditional events in this country and would not like to see another lose its unique identity/atmosphere.
There is no such thing as the Gay Community, just millions of gay people around the world getting on with day to day stuff. Unfortunately, many of them live in countries where they are in fear of their lives just for being who they are, and even in so called enlightened countries there is everything from violent aggression and abuse, down to the petty bigotry seen in some of these posts. That's why Pride still needs to exist, free or not.
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: Crikey... just read what you said... that passing curious members of the public will be dissuaded from mingling to find out 'what it's all about'... This is the 21st Century! You're talking like it some freak show from the 1900's!!! It's just same sex couples FFS! Not a bunch of misfits trying to garner public acceptance! Sheesh.[/p][/quote]You're wrong, probably over 80% of the public have not experienced Gay Pride, even though we are as you say in the 21st century. It's not a freak show, but as I say most people don't come into contact with the gay community, especially outside Brighton and other big cities, so make it welcoming to them. At the end of the day if the Pride goal works to overcome all prejudices one day it won't be needed. Also, try to calm down and not take everyone's opinions on here as an attack, most are constructive. I've seen charging and over policing like this ruin many traditional events in this country and would not like to see another lose its unique identity/atmosphere.[/p][/quote]There is no such thing as the Gay Community, just millions of gay people around the world getting on with day to day stuff. Unfortunately, many of them live in countries where they are in fear of their lives just for being who they are, and even in so called enlightened countries there is everything from violent aggression and abuse, down to the petty bigotry seen in some of these posts. That's why Pride still needs to exist, free or not. her professional
  • Score: 0

1:07pm Tue 24 Jun 14

KarenT says...

Take it Personally wrote:
KarenT wrote:
abracadab wrote:
It's just sad, the spirit of 'festival' has been lost when you have to buy a ticket to take part.
"Sad"? That they've decided to hire people safety and management folks, and start charging? You mean the spirit of the FREE festival for liggers has been lost I think. Boohoo, go cry into a beer somewhere. It'll cost you a couple of quid though...
Wow, KarenT please be a bit respectful. Unfortunately it's sour attitudes and strong defensiveness like yours that gets people's backs up. (even mine).
As a gay man, I'm not pleased with the decision to rope off and ticket this event and I think it sends out the wrong message AND it does exclude hence not everyone will be able to attend.
I understand the argument for safety, but Pride is starting to make a lot of money now (including charging people who walk in the parade £30 each).
It's becoming a pink cash cow.
Calm the attitude please you're not doing the gay community any favours by winding people up or being rude.
So what, you're a gay man. Does that somehow make your opinion trump everyone else's? So what IF they're making money? They use a lot of their funds to advance equality and liberation under intense pressure in foreign countries, as well as gay people struggling locally, including the Terrence Higgins Trust. What do you think - they spend all the money on pink tutu's and sex toys or something? I'd say it's you that isn't doing the "gay community" any favours, and as has been said before... it's not a 'community', it's just millions of gay people all over the world getting on with their lives. They don't all live in one commune! And I don't care about "getting people's backs up" - if gay people worried about that then I reckon they'd still be getting tossed into prison for the crime of 'the love that dare not speak its name'. Only ignorant people are homophobic, and there's not a lot you can do about that as they're so stupid they usually hate everything else that's different as well.
[quote][p][bold]Take it Personally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abracadab[/bold] wrote: It's just sad, the spirit of 'festival' has been lost when you have to buy a ticket to take part.[/p][/quote]"Sad"? That they've decided to hire people safety and management folks, and start charging? You mean the spirit of the FREE festival for liggers has been lost I think. Boohoo, go cry into a beer somewhere. It'll cost you a couple of quid though...[/p][/quote]Wow, KarenT please be a bit respectful. Unfortunately it's sour attitudes and strong defensiveness like yours that gets people's backs up. (even mine). As a gay man, I'm not pleased with the decision to rope off and ticket this event and I think it sends out the wrong message AND it does exclude hence not everyone will be able to attend. I understand the argument for safety, but Pride is starting to make a lot of money now (including charging people who walk in the parade £30 each). It's becoming a pink cash cow. Calm the attitude please you're not doing the gay community any favours by winding people up or being rude.[/p][/quote]So what, you're a gay man. Does that somehow make your opinion trump everyone else's? So what IF they're making money? They use a lot of their funds to advance equality and liberation under intense pressure in foreign countries, as well as gay people struggling locally, including the Terrence Higgins Trust. What do you think - they spend all the money on pink tutu's and sex toys or something? I'd say it's you that isn't doing the "gay community" any favours, and as has been said before... it's not a 'community', it's just millions of gay people all over the world getting on with their lives. They don't all live in one commune! And I don't care about "getting people's backs up" - if gay people worried about that then I reckon they'd still be getting tossed into prison for the crime of 'the love that dare not speak its name'. Only ignorant people are homophobic, and there's not a lot you can do about that as they're so stupid they usually hate everything else that's different as well. KarenT
  • Score: -3

1:43pm Tue 24 Jun 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

NathanAdler wrote:
The gays tend to be rich. No kids, no football season ticket and no wife with a credit card habit!!

Moisturizer and rubber pants do not cost a fortune do they?
Believe it or not, there are gay women too! Some of whom do indeed have a wife. And what makes you think gay people don't like football or have any kids? Time to get back in the toolbox, you total spanner!
[quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: The gays tend to be rich. No kids, no football season ticket and no wife with a credit card habit!! Moisturizer and rubber pants do not cost a fortune do they?[/p][/quote]Believe it or not, there are gay women too! Some of whom do indeed have a wife. And what makes you think gay people don't like football or have any kids? Time to get back in the toolbox, you total spanner! thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 4

1:58pm Tue 24 Jun 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

stevo!! wrote:
"Isn't Pride about gaining respect from the general public?"

Funny, but I've always thought it was something to do with sticking two fingers up to the public.

"You're talking like it some freak show from the 1900's!!! It's just same sex couples"

You'd be amazed how many people view it as a freak show, especially with the conduct of some of the participants.
Oh gawd, here's the patriot ZeeGee FFS under another name spouting on about Pride. If we didn't have to pay for you and your moronic friends to strut about waving your England flags at £3000 per attendee at March for England, we could afford to pay for the street party for years to come - which actually brings business to B&H rather than shutting it down for the day.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: "Isn't Pride about gaining respect from the general public?" Funny, but I've always thought it was something to do with sticking two fingers up to the public. "You're talking like it some freak show from the 1900's!!! It's just same sex couples" You'd be amazed how many people view it as a freak show, especially with the conduct of some of the participants.[/p][/quote]Oh gawd, here's the patriot ZeeGee FFS under another name spouting on about Pride. If we didn't have to pay for you and your moronic friends to strut about waving your England flags at £3000 per attendee at March for England, we could afford to pay for the street party for years to come - which actually brings business to B&H rather than shutting it down for the day. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 3

2:55pm Tue 24 Jun 14

KarenT says...

stevo!! wrote:
KarenT wrote:
Then why are you complaining about the city being "closed for them" then if they're going to get on with their lives completely unhindered? Make up your mind. And I thought we were talking about the price of tickets - now you're banging on about depravity, etc. You are obviously a nutjob who needs to wash his brain out with soap and I am off to work. Work. Remember that thing? No, don't suppose you do... Bye loser.
No-one is complaining about the city being closed to them. For most Brighton residents, Pride won't even be happening.

The Issue here is of complaints about a major street being closed off, whether or not people are paying to be allowed on it that day. You were the one who mentioned the city being closed, and now you're getting abusive after being reminded of what YOU ( and only you) raised.

'Depravity' was raised because it is a major part of what Pride is. Hundreds of people see it as a sign to act in a manner that they wouldn't normally do in public. Some participants have no problem acting in a lewd fashion in areas where there might be children present.
No it was YOU who mentioned the "city being closed"... go back and re-read your posts!

"Depravity" (and that's YOUR word, not mine) isn't a major part of Pride - go to the Pride dog show or the arts festival, to name but a few events, if a bit of bawdiness offends you so. Most of the businesses in Brighton (shops, restaurants, bars, you name it) will be raking it in just as they do every year during Pride - so I'm sure they'll be happy.

I see people acting far more 'lewd' everyday in Brighton, whether they're puking up from drinking too much, peeing in doorways or up against walls, you name it. And that's just on the beach on a sunny weekend!

Your lemon-sucking bunch comes out every year in response to Pride, so it's not the least bit unexpected. Anyway I'm going back to work, you're boring me now.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: Then why are you complaining about the city being "closed for them" then if they're going to get on with their lives completely unhindered? Make up your mind. And I thought we were talking about the price of tickets - now you're banging on about depravity, etc. You are obviously a nutjob who needs to wash his brain out with soap and I am off to work. Work. Remember that thing? No, don't suppose you do... Bye loser.[/p][/quote]No-one is complaining about the city being closed to them. For most Brighton residents, Pride won't even be happening. The Issue here is of complaints about a major street being closed off, whether or not people are paying to be allowed on it that day. You were the one who mentioned the city being closed, and now you're getting abusive after being reminded of what YOU ( and only you) raised. 'Depravity' was raised because it is a major part of what Pride is. Hundreds of people see it as a sign to act in a manner that they wouldn't normally do in public. Some participants have no problem acting in a lewd fashion in areas where there might be children present.[/p][/quote]No it was YOU who mentioned the "city being closed"... go back and re-read your posts! "Depravity" (and that's YOUR word, not mine) isn't a major part of Pride - go to the Pride dog show or the arts festival, to name but a few events, if a bit of bawdiness offends you so. Most of the businesses in Brighton (shops, restaurants, bars, you name it) will be raking it in just as they do every year during Pride - so I'm sure they'll be happy. I see people acting far more 'lewd' everyday in Brighton, whether they're puking up from drinking too much, peeing in doorways or up against walls, you name it. And that's just on the beach on a sunny weekend! Your lemon-sucking bunch comes out every year in response to Pride, so it's not the least bit unexpected. Anyway I'm going back to work, you're boring me now. KarenT
  • Score: 1

2:59pm Tue 24 Jun 14

KarenT says...

stevo!! wrote:
" And if there are people out there who still view it as a freak show and find the conduct offensive then they will do whether admission is charged or not. So they may as well just stay home and suck lemons."

So their city is closed to them that day?

You know, thousands of Brighton residents will be having a normal summer Saturday not even noticing the Pride events.
See, I've kindly saved you the time by going back to your initial post, where you mention "their city is closed to them that day". They say the mind is the first thing to go - yours sounds as though it's made a head start.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: " And if there are people out there who still view it as a freak show and find the conduct offensive then they will do whether admission is charged or not. So they may as well just stay home and suck lemons." So their city is closed to them that day? You know, thousands of Brighton residents will be having a normal summer Saturday not even noticing the Pride events.[/p][/quote]See, I've kindly saved you the time by going back to your initial post, where you mention "their city is closed to them that day". They say the mind is the first thing to go - yours sounds as though it's made a head start. KarenT
  • Score: 1

3:11pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Take it Personally says...

KarenT wrote:
Take it Personally wrote:
KarenT wrote:
abracadab wrote:
It's just sad, the spirit of 'festival' has been lost when you have to buy a ticket to take part.
"Sad"? That they've decided to hire people safety and management folks, and start charging? You mean the spirit of the FREE festival for liggers has been lost I think. Boohoo, go cry into a beer somewhere. It'll cost you a couple of quid though...
Wow, KarenT please be a bit respectful. Unfortunately it's sour attitudes and strong defensiveness like yours that gets people's backs up. (even mine).
As a gay man, I'm not pleased with the decision to rope off and ticket this event and I think it sends out the wrong message AND it does exclude hence not everyone will be able to attend.
I understand the argument for safety, but Pride is starting to make a lot of money now (including charging people who walk in the parade £30 each).
It's becoming a pink cash cow.
Calm the attitude please you're not doing the gay community any favours by winding people up or being rude.
So what, you're a gay man. Does that somehow make your opinion trump everyone else's? So what IF they're making money? They use a lot of their funds to advance equality and liberation under intense pressure in foreign countries, as well as gay people struggling locally, including the Terrence Higgins Trust. What do you think - they spend all the money on pink tutu's and sex toys or something? I'd say it's you that isn't doing the "gay community" any favours, and as has been said before... it's not a 'community', it's just millions of gay people all over the world getting on with their lives. They don't all live in one commune! And I don't care about "getting people's backs up" - if gay people worried about that then I reckon they'd still be getting tossed into prison for the crime of 'the love that dare not speak its name'. Only ignorant people are homophobic, and there's not a lot you can do about that as they're so stupid they usually hate everything else that's different as well.
well honey,
if you're going to be at the street party, that makes my decison not to go very easy.
What a bunch of fun you are
xx
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Take it Personally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abracadab[/bold] wrote: It's just sad, the spirit of 'festival' has been lost when you have to buy a ticket to take part.[/p][/quote]"Sad"? That they've decided to hire people safety and management folks, and start charging? You mean the spirit of the FREE festival for liggers has been lost I think. Boohoo, go cry into a beer somewhere. It'll cost you a couple of quid though...[/p][/quote]Wow, KarenT please be a bit respectful. Unfortunately it's sour attitudes and strong defensiveness like yours that gets people's backs up. (even mine). As a gay man, I'm not pleased with the decision to rope off and ticket this event and I think it sends out the wrong message AND it does exclude hence not everyone will be able to attend. I understand the argument for safety, but Pride is starting to make a lot of money now (including charging people who walk in the parade £30 each). It's becoming a pink cash cow. Calm the attitude please you're not doing the gay community any favours by winding people up or being rude.[/p][/quote]So what, you're a gay man. Does that somehow make your opinion trump everyone else's? So what IF they're making money? They use a lot of their funds to advance equality and liberation under intense pressure in foreign countries, as well as gay people struggling locally, including the Terrence Higgins Trust. What do you think - they spend all the money on pink tutu's and sex toys or something? I'd say it's you that isn't doing the "gay community" any favours, and as has been said before... it's not a 'community', it's just millions of gay people all over the world getting on with their lives. They don't all live in one commune! And I don't care about "getting people's backs up" - if gay people worried about that then I reckon they'd still be getting tossed into prison for the crime of 'the love that dare not speak its name'. Only ignorant people are homophobic, and there's not a lot you can do about that as they're so stupid they usually hate everything else that's different as well.[/p][/quote]well honey, if you're going to be at the street party, that makes my decison not to go very easy. What a bunch of fun you are xx Take it Personally
  • Score: 1

5:45pm Tue 24 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

KarenT wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
" And if there are people out there who still view it as a freak show and find the conduct offensive then they will do whether admission is charged or not. So they may as well just stay home and suck lemons."

So their city is closed to them that day?

You know, thousands of Brighton residents will be having a normal summer Saturday not even noticing the Pride events.
See, I've kindly saved you the time by going back to your initial post, where you mention "their city is closed to them that day". They say the mind is the first thing to go - yours sounds as though it's made a head start.
Oh dear....

You appear to have forgotten (despite you quting it) what you said.

Let me help:

" if there are people out there who still view it as a freak show and find the conduct offensive then they will do whether admission is charged or not. So they may as well just stay home.."

STAYING HOME.....ie, they might as well just avoid their own city, and this led to my question (note: NOT a statement)

"So their city is closed to them that day?"

after you indicated that Brighton should be a no-go area for those who are opposed to/dislike Pride events.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: " And if there are people out there who still view it as a freak show and find the conduct offensive then they will do whether admission is charged or not. So they may as well just stay home and suck lemons." So their city is closed to them that day? You know, thousands of Brighton residents will be having a normal summer Saturday not even noticing the Pride events.[/p][/quote]See, I've kindly saved you the time by going back to your initial post, where you mention "their city is closed to them that day". They say the mind is the first thing to go - yours sounds as though it's made a head start.[/p][/quote]Oh dear.... You appear to have forgotten (despite you quting it) what you said. Let me help: " if there are people out there who still view it as a freak show and find the conduct offensive then they will do whether admission is charged or not. So they may as well just stay home.." STAYING HOME.....ie, they might as well just avoid their own city, and this led to my question (note: NOT a statement) "So their city is closed to them that day?" after you indicated that Brighton should be a no-go area for those who are opposed to/dislike Pride events. HTH stevo!!
  • Score: -2

7:26pm Tue 24 Jun 14

KarenT says...

stevo!! wrote:
KarenT wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
" And if there are people out there who still view it as a freak show and find the conduct offensive then they will do whether admission is charged or not. So they may as well just stay home and suck lemons."

So their city is closed to them that day?

You know, thousands of Brighton residents will be having a normal summer Saturday not even noticing the Pride events.
See, I've kindly saved you the time by going back to your initial post, where you mention "their city is closed to them that day". They say the mind is the first thing to go - yours sounds as though it's made a head start.
Oh dear....

You appear to have forgotten (despite you quting it) what you said.

Let me help:

" if there are people out there who still view it as a freak show and find the conduct offensive then they will do whether admission is charged or not. So they may as well just stay home.."

STAYING HOME.....ie, they might as well just avoid their own city, and this led to my question (note: NOT a statement)

"So their city is closed to them that day?"

after you indicated that Brighton should be a no-go area for those who are opposed to/dislike Pride events.

HTH
Ohhhh... I see... it was a 'question', not a 'statement'! Jeez, my eyelids are getting heavy, excuse me whilst I nip off for a nap...

I've been living here for over 10 years, and sometimes I go to Pride, sometimes I don't when I'm not up for the big crowds. When I don't, I hardly feel as though 'my city is closed to me'!!!! I just walk the dog in a westerly direction, hang out at 7 Dials, or go the beach. You make it sound as though Pride means as though the moment you step out of your front door you're besieged with scantily clad queens gyrating in your front garden trying to stick their tongues down your throat! It's one out of 365 days of the year (OK, maybe two!). Get a life and start finding some important things to gripe about.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: " And if there are people out there who still view it as a freak show and find the conduct offensive then they will do whether admission is charged or not. So they may as well just stay home and suck lemons." So their city is closed to them that day? You know, thousands of Brighton residents will be having a normal summer Saturday not even noticing the Pride events.[/p][/quote]See, I've kindly saved you the time by going back to your initial post, where you mention "their city is closed to them that day". They say the mind is the first thing to go - yours sounds as though it's made a head start.[/p][/quote]Oh dear.... You appear to have forgotten (despite you quting it) what you said. Let me help: " if there are people out there who still view it as a freak show and find the conduct offensive then they will do whether admission is charged or not. So they may as well just stay home.." STAYING HOME.....ie, they might as well just avoid their own city, and this led to my question (note: NOT a statement) "So their city is closed to them that day?" after you indicated that Brighton should be a no-go area for those who are opposed to/dislike Pride events. HTH[/p][/quote]Ohhhh... I see... it was a 'question', not a 'statement'! Jeez, my eyelids are getting heavy, excuse me whilst I nip off for a nap... I've been living here for over 10 years, and sometimes I go to Pride, sometimes I don't when I'm not up for the big crowds. When I don't, I hardly feel as though 'my city is closed to me'!!!! I just walk the dog in a westerly direction, hang out at 7 Dials, or go the beach. You make it sound as though Pride means as though the moment you step out of your front door you're besieged with scantily clad queens gyrating in your front garden trying to stick their tongues down your throat! It's one out of 365 days of the year (OK, maybe two!). Get a life and start finding some important things to gripe about. KarenT
  • Score: 1

7:33pm Tue 24 Jun 14

KarenT says...

Take it Personally wrote:
KarenT wrote:
Take it Personally wrote:
KarenT wrote:
abracadab wrote:
It's just sad, the spirit of 'festival' has been lost when you have to buy a ticket to take part.
"Sad"? That they've decided to hire people safety and management folks, and start charging? You mean the spirit of the FREE festival for liggers has been lost I think. Boohoo, go cry into a beer somewhere. It'll cost you a couple of quid though...
Wow, KarenT please be a bit respectful. Unfortunately it's sour attitudes and strong defensiveness like yours that gets people's backs up. (even mine).
As a gay man, I'm not pleased with the decision to rope off and ticket this event and I think it sends out the wrong message AND it does exclude hence not everyone will be able to attend.
I understand the argument for safety, but Pride is starting to make a lot of money now (including charging people who walk in the parade £30 each).
It's becoming a pink cash cow.
Calm the attitude please you're not doing the gay community any favours by winding people up or being rude.
So what, you're a gay man. Does that somehow make your opinion trump everyone else's? So what IF they're making money? They use a lot of their funds to advance equality and liberation under intense pressure in foreign countries, as well as gay people struggling locally, including the Terrence Higgins Trust. What do you think - they spend all the money on pink tutu's and sex toys or something? I'd say it's you that isn't doing the "gay community" any favours, and as has been said before... it's not a 'community', it's just millions of gay people all over the world getting on with their lives. They don't all live in one commune! And I don't care about "getting people's backs up" - if gay people worried about that then I reckon they'd still be getting tossed into prison for the crime of 'the love that dare not speak its name'. Only ignorant people are homophobic, and there's not a lot you can do about that as they're so stupid they usually hate everything else that's different as well.
well honey,
if you're going to be at the street party, that makes my decison not to go very easy.
What a bunch of fun you are
xx
Well I'm flattered that my presence at any local event attended by thousands of people is enough to convince you not to turn up! I go to the beach most days to walk the dog - best you steer clear of there too. In fact perhaps confine your outdoor activities to visiting Morrisons in St James's Street, cuz that's once place I never go - you'll be safe there. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Take it Personally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Take it Personally[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abracadab[/bold] wrote: It's just sad, the spirit of 'festival' has been lost when you have to buy a ticket to take part.[/p][/quote]"Sad"? That they've decided to hire people safety and management folks, and start charging? You mean the spirit of the FREE festival for liggers has been lost I think. Boohoo, go cry into a beer somewhere. It'll cost you a couple of quid though...[/p][/quote]Wow, KarenT please be a bit respectful. Unfortunately it's sour attitudes and strong defensiveness like yours that gets people's backs up. (even mine). As a gay man, I'm not pleased with the decision to rope off and ticket this event and I think it sends out the wrong message AND it does exclude hence not everyone will be able to attend. I understand the argument for safety, but Pride is starting to make a lot of money now (including charging people who walk in the parade £30 each). It's becoming a pink cash cow. Calm the attitude please you're not doing the gay community any favours by winding people up or being rude.[/p][/quote]So what, you're a gay man. Does that somehow make your opinion trump everyone else's? So what IF they're making money? They use a lot of their funds to advance equality and liberation under intense pressure in foreign countries, as well as gay people struggling locally, including the Terrence Higgins Trust. What do you think - they spend all the money on pink tutu's and sex toys or something? I'd say it's you that isn't doing the "gay community" any favours, and as has been said before... it's not a 'community', it's just millions of gay people all over the world getting on with their lives. They don't all live in one commune! And I don't care about "getting people's backs up" - if gay people worried about that then I reckon they'd still be getting tossed into prison for the crime of 'the love that dare not speak its name'. Only ignorant people are homophobic, and there's not a lot you can do about that as they're so stupid they usually hate everything else that's different as well.[/p][/quote]well honey, if you're going to be at the street party, that makes my decison not to go very easy. What a bunch of fun you are xx[/p][/quote]Well I'm flattered that my presence at any local event attended by thousands of people is enough to convince you not to turn up! I go to the beach most days to walk the dog - best you steer clear of there too. In fact perhaps confine your outdoor activities to visiting Morrisons in St James's Street, cuz that's once place I never go - you'll be safe there. ;-) KarenT
  • Score: 2

8:02pm Tue 24 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

Karen T wrote:

"Ohhhh... I see... it was a 'question', not a 'statement'!"

Yes....my use of a question mark at the end of the sentence was obviously way too advanced for you, but it's totally in line with your failure to read your own posts.

"I've been living here for over 10 years, and sometimes I go to Pride, sometimes I don't when I'm not up for the big crowds. When I don't, I hardly feel as though 'my city is closed to me'!!!"

But you suggested that those who don't like Pride events should consider the city closed to them, and that they should stay at home. Your opinion on the day is irrelevant when you come to to discussing how others might feel about it.
Karen T wrote: "Ohhhh... I see... it was a 'question', not a 'statement'!" Yes....my use of a question mark at the end of the sentence was obviously way too advanced for you, but it's totally in line with your failure to read your own posts. "I've been living here for over 10 years, and sometimes I go to Pride, sometimes I don't when I'm not up for the big crowds. When I don't, I hardly feel as though 'my city is closed to me'!!!" But you suggested that those who don't like Pride events should consider the city closed to them, and that they should stay at home. Your opinion on the day is irrelevant when you come to to discussing how others might feel about it. stevo!!
  • Score: -4

9:24pm Tue 24 Jun 14

KarenT says...

stevo!! wrote:
Karen T wrote:

"Ohhhh... I see... it was a 'question', not a 'statement'!"

Yes....my use of a question mark at the end of the sentence was obviously way too advanced for you, but it's totally in line with your failure to read your own posts.

"I've been living here for over 10 years, and sometimes I go to Pride, sometimes I don't when I'm not up for the big crowds. When I don't, I hardly feel as though 'my city is closed to me'!!!"

But you suggested that those who don't like Pride events should consider the city closed to them, and that they should stay at home. Your opinion on the day is irrelevant when you come to to discussing how others might feel about it.
No, I didn't say that those who don't like Pride stay home or consider the city 'closed to them', I suggested that if it offends peoples' sensibilities then they should just not bother going - there's loads of other options. I don't like going to March for England, so I just either stay home or go elsewhere. Simple. How I "feel" about it is irrelevant. If you don't 'feel good about it' then just stay away! Jeez, it's not rocket science. Moan, moan, moan... go eat a TV dinner or something...
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Karen T wrote: "Ohhhh... I see... it was a 'question', not a 'statement'!" Yes....my use of a question mark at the end of the sentence was obviously way too advanced for you, but it's totally in line with your failure to read your own posts. "I've been living here for over 10 years, and sometimes I go to Pride, sometimes I don't when I'm not up for the big crowds. When I don't, I hardly feel as though 'my city is closed to me'!!!" But you suggested that those who don't like Pride events should consider the city closed to them, and that they should stay at home. Your opinion on the day is irrelevant when you come to to discussing how others might feel about it.[/p][/quote]No, I didn't say that those who don't like Pride stay home or consider the city 'closed to them', I suggested that if it offends peoples' sensibilities then they should just not bother going - there's loads of other options. I don't like going to March for England, so I just either stay home or go elsewhere. Simple. How I "feel" about it is irrelevant. If you don't 'feel good about it' then just stay away! Jeez, it's not rocket science. Moan, moan, moan... go eat a TV dinner or something... KarenT
  • Score: 2

10:08pm Tue 24 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

KarenT wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Karen T wrote:

"Ohhhh... I see... it was a 'question', not a 'statement'!"

Yes....my use of a question mark at the end of the sentence was obviously way too advanced for you, but it's totally in line with your failure to read your own posts.

"I've been living here for over 10 years, and sometimes I go to Pride, sometimes I don't when I'm not up for the big crowds. When I don't, I hardly feel as though 'my city is closed to me'!!!"

But you suggested that those who don't like Pride events should consider the city closed to them, and that they should stay at home. Your opinion on the day is irrelevant when you come to to discussing how others might feel about it.
No, I didn't say that those who don't like Pride stay home or consider the city 'closed to them', I suggested that if it offends peoples' sensibilities then they should just not bother going - there's loads of other options. I don't like going to March for England, so I just either stay home or go elsewhere. Simple. How I "feel" about it is irrelevant. If you don't 'feel good about it' then just stay away! Jeez, it's not rocket science. Moan, moan, moan... go eat a TV dinner or something...
Karen T stated:

" I suggested that if it offends peoples' sensibilities then they should just not bother going"

No, you didn't.

You suggested that they stay at home, thus depriving themselves of all that their city affords them.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

I'm really enjoying watching you squirm :-)
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Karen T wrote: "Ohhhh... I see... it was a 'question', not a 'statement'!" Yes....my use of a question mark at the end of the sentence was obviously way too advanced for you, but it's totally in line with your failure to read your own posts. "I've been living here for over 10 years, and sometimes I go to Pride, sometimes I don't when I'm not up for the big crowds. When I don't, I hardly feel as though 'my city is closed to me'!!!" But you suggested that those who don't like Pride events should consider the city closed to them, and that they should stay at home. Your opinion on the day is irrelevant when you come to to discussing how others might feel about it.[/p][/quote]No, I didn't say that those who don't like Pride stay home or consider the city 'closed to them', I suggested that if it offends peoples' sensibilities then they should just not bother going - there's loads of other options. I don't like going to March for England, so I just either stay home or go elsewhere. Simple. How I "feel" about it is irrelevant. If you don't 'feel good about it' then just stay away! Jeez, it's not rocket science. Moan, moan, moan... go eat a TV dinner or something...[/p][/quote]Karen T stated: " I suggested that if it offends peoples' sensibilities then they should just not bother going" No, you didn't. You suggested that they stay at home, thus depriving themselves of all that their city affords them. BIG DIFFERENCE. I'm really enjoying watching you squirm :-) stevo!!
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10:38pm Tue 24 Jun 14

KarenT says...

stevo!! wrote:
KarenT wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Karen T wrote:

"Ohhhh... I see... it was a 'question', not a 'statement'!"

Yes....my use of a question mark at the end of the sentence was obviously way too advanced for you, but it's totally in line with your failure to read your own posts.

"I've been living here for over 10 years, and sometimes I go to Pride, sometimes I don't when I'm not up for the big crowds. When I don't, I hardly feel as though 'my city is closed to me'!!!"

But you suggested that those who don't like Pride events should consider the city closed to them, and that they should stay at home. Your opinion on the day is irrelevant when you come to to discussing how others might feel about it.
No, I didn't say that those who don't like Pride stay home or consider the city 'closed to them', I suggested that if it offends peoples' sensibilities then they should just not bother going - there's loads of other options. I don't like going to March for England, so I just either stay home or go elsewhere. Simple. How I "feel" about it is irrelevant. If you don't 'feel good about it' then just stay away! Jeez, it's not rocket science. Moan, moan, moan... go eat a TV dinner or something...
Karen T stated:

" I suggested that if it offends peoples' sensibilities then they should just not bother going"

No, you didn't.

You suggested that they stay at home, thus depriving themselves of all that their city affords them.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

I'm really enjoying watching you squirm :-)
Well I've had my 'bash an idiot' fix for the night... Nite.

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[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Karen T wrote: "Ohhhh... I see... it was a 'question', not a 'statement'!" Yes....my use of a question mark at the end of the sentence was obviously way too advanced for you, but it's totally in line with your failure to read your own posts. "I've been living here for over 10 years, and sometimes I go to Pride, sometimes I don't when I'm not up for the big crowds. When I don't, I hardly feel as though 'my city is closed to me'!!!" But you suggested that those who don't like Pride events should consider the city closed to them, and that they should stay at home. Your opinion on the day is irrelevant when you come to to discussing how others might feel about it.[/p][/quote]No, I didn't say that those who don't like Pride stay home or consider the city 'closed to them', I suggested that if it offends peoples' sensibilities then they should just not bother going - there's loads of other options. I don't like going to March for England, so I just either stay home or go elsewhere. Simple. How I "feel" about it is irrelevant. If you don't 'feel good about it' then just stay away! Jeez, it's not rocket science. Moan, moan, moan... go eat a TV dinner or something...[/p][/quote]Karen T stated: " I suggested that if it offends peoples' sensibilities then they should just not bother going" No, you didn't. You suggested that they stay at home, thus depriving themselves of all that their city affords them. BIG DIFFERENCE. I'm really enjoying watching you squirm :-)[/p][/quote]Well I've had my 'bash an idiot' fix for the night... Nite. http://media-cache-e c0.pinimg.com/origin als/a4/12/54/a41254c 62b4dba2f2377b3345f9 7ecfe.jpg KarenT
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11:01pm Tue 24 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

"Well I've had my 'bash an idiot' fix for the night..."

So you admit that you only posted on here to be abusive.

I'm so pleased you had your **** handed to you.
"Well I've had my 'bash an idiot' fix for the night..." So you admit that you only posted on here to be abusive. I'm so pleased you had your **** handed to you. stevo!!
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