More foreign students at University of Sussex

More foreign students at University of Sussex

More foreign students at University of Sussex

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THE number of Chinese students at the University of Sussex has increased almost seven-fold in the past five years.

The University of Sussex had 829 permanent Chinese students in the 2013/14 academic year compared to just 142 five years earlier.

British students now make up less than half the number of postgraduates at the university.

University officials denied that the increasing numbers created an effective brain drain away from the UK where overseas students take back the knowledge and skills picked up at UK universities to boost their homeland economy.

The university has 1196 UK students in the current academic year out of a total of 2585 full-time postgraduates from 104 different countries including Afghanistan, Palestine, Afghanistan and Burma.

In 2008/9 the proportion of UK post-graduates was two-thirds of all students.

While the number of Chinese students is rapidly increasing, the number of students coming from India has declined equally dramatically with almost half the number of Indian postgraduates, 49, in 2013/14 compared to 88 in 2008/9.

A University of Sussex spokesman said that the drop was believed to be because the UK was no longer considered a “welcoming destination” by Indians in part because of the way that immigration was discussed in the national media.

Trends were less clear at the University of Brighton where the proportion of UK postgraduates has remained higher and more stable.

Two-thirds of the university’s postgraduate population were UK nationals in 2008/9 which has dropped only marginally in the past five years.

A University of Sussex spokesman said: “Overseas students make a very direct contribution to the UK's economy through the fees they pay, which are generally higher than home students' fees, and the money they spend when they are here.

“Our higher education system would suffer hugely if that income was lost.

“Top quality higher education, such as that offered at Sussex, is increasingly international with more and more Sussex students spending time abroad as part their course and employers increasingly looking for international experience.

“Our long term economic success depends on global economic growth – so strengthening the international economy is to the benefit of us all by creating new markets for the high-technology products and services which are the UK's economic future.”

A University of Brighton spokesman said: “We do not pursue a strategy that would lead to any one particular student nationality group dominating a course, hence the diverse student community at Brighton.

“Our approach, we firmly believe, maximises the learning experience for all our students and ensures we maintain a multicultural learning environment.”

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7:34pm Tue 24 Jun 14

stevo!! says...

How many of them intend going home once they've completed their courses?

How many of them will actually do that?

"The University of Sussex had 829 permanent Chinese students in the 2013/14 academic year compared to just 142 five years earlier. "

What exactly is a permanent student? Is it one who will be failing their exams for the duration of their lifetime?

Or is it one who has wangled a way to stay in the UK beyond what they first agreed with the Home Office?
How many of them intend going home once they've completed their courses? How many of them will actually do that? "The University of Sussex had 829 permanent Chinese students in the 2013/14 academic year compared to just 142 five years earlier. " What exactly is a permanent student? Is it one who will be failing their exams for the duration of their lifetime? Or is it one who has wangled a way to stay in the UK beyond what they first agreed with the Home Office? stevo!!
  • Score: -4

7:34pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Martha Gunn says...

Not at all clear what is meant here.
Poor journalism.

The comment 'In 2008/9 the proportion of UK post-graduates was two-thirds of all students' is complete rubbish. How could that possibly be the case?

The article seems to refer to postgraduates only - only a small proportion of all students - and not understand that undergraduates make up the bulk of students.
Not at all clear what is meant here. Poor journalism. The comment 'In 2008/9 the proportion of UK post-graduates was two-thirds of all students' is complete rubbish. How could that possibly be the case? The article seems to refer to postgraduates only - only a small proportion of all students - and not understand that undergraduates make up the bulk of students. Martha Gunn
  • Score: 6

8:16pm Tue 24 Jun 14

rolivan says...

It would be nice to know total student numbers for the current year.
It would be nice to know total student numbers for the current year. rolivan
  • Score: 4

8:16pm Tue 24 Jun 14

rolivan says...

It would be nice to know total student numbers for the current year.
It would be nice to know total student numbers for the current year. rolivan
  • Score: 4

8:49pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Martha Gunn says...

Yes rolivan - that's what Vowles should have included.

It's around 14,000
Yes rolivan - that's what Vowles should have included. It's around 14,000 Martha Gunn
  • Score: 4

8:54pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Kate234 says...

They should just close down half the universities. Allocate the left over budget to the remaining universities and then the universities wouldn't need to be stuffed with foreign students to fund them.

This would also put less pressure on UK students to do some of the worthless degrees I've seen come out from Brighton University. Not fair burdening these students with huge debts and degrees that have less value than three years of work experience (which doesn't incur the debt) and gets people useful experience.
They should just close down half the universities. Allocate the left over budget to the remaining universities and then the universities wouldn't need to be stuffed with foreign students to fund them. This would also put less pressure on UK students to do some of the worthless degrees I've seen come out from Brighton University. Not fair burdening these students with huge debts and degrees that have less value than three years of work experience (which doesn't incur the debt) and gets people useful experience. Kate234
  • Score: 0

9:19pm Tue 24 Jun 14

platelet says...

I wouldn't mind betting that they have a pretty **** good table tennis squad.
I wouldn't mind betting that they have a pretty **** good table tennis squad. platelet
  • Score: 0

9:36am Thu 26 Jun 14

J____M says...

"...from 104 different countries including Afghanistan, Palestine, Afghanistan and Burma."

That's quite a list you've made there, Vowles. Why did you pick these countries specifically? Just to give examples of what a 'country' is? Or are you trying to make some other point about the suitability of these students?

Anyway, unless there is some suggestion that increased international PGs is denying places to 'home/EU' students there is no story here. The UK exports all sorts of things (probably to more than 104 countries, some of which also have exotic names) but nobody is claiming there is a "medicine-drain" to other countries because pharmaceutical companies are exporting their products.

There is plenty of education to go around and it should be shared liberally and without borders.
"...from 104 different countries including Afghanistan, Palestine, Afghanistan and Burma." That's quite a list you've made there, Vowles. Why did you pick these countries specifically? Just to give examples of what a 'country' is? Or are you trying to make some other point about the suitability of these students? Anyway, unless there is some suggestion that increased international PGs is denying places to 'home/EU' students there is no story here. The UK exports all sorts of things (probably to more than 104 countries, some of which also have exotic names) but nobody is claiming there is a "medicine-drain" to other countries because pharmaceutical companies are exporting their products. There is plenty of education to go around and it should be shared liberally and without borders. J____M
  • Score: 7

10:24am Thu 26 Jun 14

Dominic Guzman says...

A very poor article. For one thing it suggests that overseas students are taking places that rightfully belong to UK students, which is simply untrue; numbers of both home and overseas students are growing significantly.

And so what if students from overseas take the skills and knowledge they have gained somewhere else when they graduate? They've paid for their education!!! Would you complain of the effect on local businesses if people came from abroad, bought their products and services, and then had the nerve to take them away with them?
A very poor article. For one thing it suggests that overseas students are taking places that rightfully belong to UK students, which is simply untrue; numbers of both home and overseas students are growing significantly. And so what if students from overseas take the skills and knowledge they have gained somewhere else when they graduate? They've paid for their education!!! Would you complain of the effect on local businesses if people came from abroad, bought their products and services, and then had the nerve to take them away with them? Dominic Guzman
  • Score: 7

10:35am Thu 26 Jun 14

DistinctLackOfGravitas says...

FOREIGNERS ARE STEALING OUR KNOWLEDGE!
If this continues unstemmed, the UK will be drianed of all knowledge by 2020, and our skill wells will run dry by 2024.
FOREIGNERS ARE STEALING OUR KNOWLEDGE! If this continues unstemmed, the UK will be drianed of all knowledge by 2020, and our skill wells will run dry by 2024. DistinctLackOfGravitas
  • Score: 0

10:36am Thu 26 Jun 14

DistinctLackOfGravitas says...

Please note the typo in my last comment is due to a Ukrainian student draining knowledge of the English language from my brain the other day in Lidl.
Please note the typo in my last comment is due to a Ukrainian student draining knowledge of the English language from my brain the other day in Lidl. DistinctLackOfGravitas
  • Score: 1

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