Car parking charges are a ‘tax on the sick’

Car parking charges are a ‘tax on the sick’

Car parking charges are a ‘tax on the sick’

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by , Health reporter

HOSPITALS raked in almost £4 million in car parking charges in one year.

The money comes from patients, visitors and staff using car parks at hospitals in Brighton, Haywards Heath, Worthing, Shoreham, Chichester, Eastbourne and St Leonards.

Patient groups want parking charges to be scrapped but hospitals say they are needed to maintain and secure spaces.

Hospital trusts say charging for parking also helps to prevent spaces being used by people working in or visiting town centres.

Patients with long- term conditions such as cancer or kidney failure, who need to visit often, are allowed to park for free or given concessions.

Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals NHS Trust runs the Royal Sussex County Hospital in Brighton and Princess Royal Hospital in Haywards Heath among others.

The trust charges visitors to the Royal Sussex between £1.80 for two hours to a maximum of £17 for 12 to 24 hours.

It earned £1.031m between April 2013 and the end of March this year, a slight drop on the year before.

A trust spokesman said: “This is reinvested in car parking facilities and security arrangements and allows us to spend more money we receive from tax payers on the care of patients.”

Western Sussex Hospitals NHS Trust, which runs Worthing Hospital, Southlands Hospital in Shoreham and St Richard's in Chichester, earned £1.588 million, a slight rise on the previous year.

Its charges at Worthing range from £1.30 to £7.60.

Facilities manager Mitch Thomas said: “We do try to keep the costs as low as possible and in line with other comparable charges in each of the three areas our hospitals are located in.

“Our charges haven’t gone up for almost four years now.

“We provide significant concessions for patients who are in hospital for a long period and for specific groups – such as patients undergoing regular dialysis – we ensure that their parking is free.

“The income is reinvested into parking and security services, with any surplus being used to improve patient services across the trust.”

East Sussex Healthcare also increased its income, generating £1.338 million from charges which range from £1.50 to £14.90.

Patients Association chief executive Katherine Murphy branded hospital parking charges a “tax on the sick”.

She said: “Hospitals should be properly supported by the Government and should not have to rely on charging patients and visitors to park.

“Car parking charges make a mockery of a service supposed to be free at the point of need.”

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8:12am Mon 30 Jun 14

michael505 says...

Why shouldn't people pay to park their vehicles. You pay on the streets so why not on private land. Providing the fees are reasonable I cannot see why you shouldn't pay. The money goes towards supporting the NHS which is a good thing.
Why shouldn't people pay to park their vehicles. You pay on the streets so why not on private land. Providing the fees are reasonable I cannot see why you shouldn't pay. The money goes towards supporting the NHS which is a good thing. michael505
  • Score: -23

9:01am Mon 30 Jun 14

Morpheus says...

Using the same argument then anybody who has to use public transport or a taxi should get the cost refunded. This is why the argument for free parking is ridiculous.
Using the same argument then anybody who has to use public transport or a taxi should get the cost refunded. This is why the argument for free parking is ridiculous. Morpheus
  • Score: -8

10:09am Mon 30 Jun 14

hubby says...

This is a public disgrace.
If you have someone in hospital who is long-term sick,and you want to visit them every day it could cost a small fortune.
I live in Spain and parking at hospitals is free.
This is a public disgrace. If you have someone in hospital who is long-term sick,and you want to visit them every day it could cost a small fortune. I live in Spain and parking at hospitals is free. hubby
  • Score: 9

10:22am Mon 30 Jun 14

albionite says...

Nurses and other staff have to pay to park there when they work, or park miles away and walk in which is bang out of order!
Nurses and other staff have to pay to park there when they work, or park miles away and walk in which is bang out of order! albionite
  • Score: 14

10:52am Mon 30 Jun 14

cookie_brighton says...

Totally disgusting.........h
ospitals and the car parks are built with OUR money, taxpayers money, then they have the cheek to charge us to park on it........I remember reading about a woman who received a parking ticket, fine, for not displaying a valid parking ticket........her mother had been rushed to hospital dying of a heart attack.....the last thing on her mind was a bloody parking ticket.
Totally disgusting.........h ospitals and the car parks are built with OUR money, taxpayers money, then they have the cheek to charge us to park on it........I remember reading about a woman who received a parking ticket, fine, for not displaying a valid parking ticket........her mother had been rushed to hospital dying of a heart attack.....the last thing on her mind was a bloody parking ticket. cookie_brighton
  • Score: 25

10:52am Mon 30 Jun 14

s&k says...

An utter disgrace; we pay National Insurance remember. If hospitals inists on parking charges keep them minimal - eg £1 for two hours or something.
An utter disgrace; we pay National Insurance remember. If hospitals inists on parking charges keep them minimal - eg £1 for two hours or something. s&k
  • Score: 11

10:52am Mon 30 Jun 14

Fight_Back says...

The bigger scandal is the use of NHS trusts to use the criminal Private Parking Companies ( PPCs ) to 'manage' some of their car parks. The bullying, intimidation and downright criminal acts these parasitic companies use is disgusting.
The bigger scandal is the use of NHS trusts to use the criminal Private Parking Companies ( PPCs ) to 'manage' some of their car parks. The bullying, intimidation and downright criminal acts these parasitic companies use is disgusting. Fight_Back
  • Score: 23

10:55am Mon 30 Jun 14

Fight_Back says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
Totally disgusting.........h

ospitals and the car parks are built with OUR money, taxpayers money, then they have the cheek to charge us to park on it........I remember reading about a woman who received a parking ticket, fine, for not displaying a valid parking ticket........her mother had been rushed to hospital dying of a heart attack.....the last thing on her mind was a bloody parking ticket.
And this just backs up my last post. By the way - they are not fines ( only the council, police and courts can fine you ). They are instead an invitation to pay. An invitation you can reject. NEVER pay a private parking ticket, always appeal first to the parking company and then use the POPLA / IAS code they have to give you when they reject your appeal. ALL these charges can be defeated.
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: Totally disgusting.........h ospitals and the car parks are built with OUR money, taxpayers money, then they have the cheek to charge us to park on it........I remember reading about a woman who received a parking ticket, fine, for not displaying a valid parking ticket........her mother had been rushed to hospital dying of a heart attack.....the last thing on her mind was a bloody parking ticket.[/p][/quote]And this just backs up my last post. By the way - they are not fines ( only the council, police and courts can fine you ). They are instead an invitation to pay. An invitation you can reject. NEVER pay a private parking ticket, always appeal first to the parking company and then use the POPLA / IAS code they have to give you when they reject your appeal. ALL these charges can be defeated. Fight_Back
  • Score: 8

11:02am Mon 30 Jun 14

ruberducker says...

Its a cash cow....their making a fortune,but the money dosn't go back into the hospital if it did it could sustain itself just like the airports £3.00 for 30 mins....or £2 just to drop off:perhaps we can charge them for our costs if appointments run late.
Its a cash cow....their making a fortune,but the money dosn't go back into the hospital if it did it could sustain itself just like the airports £3.00 for 30 mins....or £2 just to drop off:perhaps we can charge them for our costs if appointments run late. ruberducker
  • Score: 11

11:20am Mon 30 Jun 14

Man of steel says...

Fight_Back wrote:
The bigger scandal is the use of NHS trusts to use the criminal Private Parking Companies ( PPCs ) to 'manage' some of their car parks. The bullying, intimidation and downright criminal acts these parasitic companies use is disgusting.
You also said, in your second posting, that you should always appeal first to the parking company, that contradicts your description of them, because they will consider that you have admitted owing them the money,and them start bullying in earnest.
Do as I do, ignore any of their letters, and complain to DVLA for selling your personal details, it's strange how one sided they are, they sell drivers details to these bullying companies, but refuse private citizens, as in my case with a car partially blocking my driveway.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: The bigger scandal is the use of NHS trusts to use the criminal Private Parking Companies ( PPCs ) to 'manage' some of their car parks. The bullying, intimidation and downright criminal acts these parasitic companies use is disgusting.[/p][/quote]You also said, in your second posting, that you should always appeal first to the parking company, that contradicts your description of them, because they will consider that you have admitted owing them the money,and them start bullying in earnest. Do as I do, ignore any of their letters, and complain to DVLA for selling your personal details, it's strange how one sided they are, they sell drivers details to these bullying companies, but refuse private citizens, as in my case with a car partially blocking my driveway. Man of steel
  • Score: 8

11:32am Mon 30 Jun 14

Fight_Back says...

Man of steel wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
The bigger scandal is the use of NHS trusts to use the criminal Private Parking Companies ( PPCs ) to 'manage' some of their car parks. The bullying, intimidation and downright criminal acts these parasitic companies use is disgusting.
You also said, in your second posting, that you should always appeal first to the parking company, that contradicts your description of them, because they will consider that you have admitted owing them the money,and them start bullying in earnest.
Do as I do, ignore any of their letters, and complain to DVLA for selling your personal details, it's strange how one sided they are, they sell drivers details to these bullying companies, but refuse private citizens, as in my case with a car partially blocking my driveway.
I agree with you about DVLA.

You have to appeal to the PPC to get the POPLA appeal code - it's the only way. You shouldn't ignore the invoices though - Parking Eye are issuing over 1000 court papers a month. You can still win at court, especially as Parking Eye have been proved to lie in court, but it less stressful to get POPLA to cancel the charge.
[quote][p][bold]Man of steel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: The bigger scandal is the use of NHS trusts to use the criminal Private Parking Companies ( PPCs ) to 'manage' some of their car parks. The bullying, intimidation and downright criminal acts these parasitic companies use is disgusting.[/p][/quote]You also said, in your second posting, that you should always appeal first to the parking company, that contradicts your description of them, because they will consider that you have admitted owing them the money,and them start bullying in earnest. Do as I do, ignore any of their letters, and complain to DVLA for selling your personal details, it's strange how one sided they are, they sell drivers details to these bullying companies, but refuse private citizens, as in my case with a car partially blocking my driveway.[/p][/quote]I agree with you about DVLA. You have to appeal to the PPC to get the POPLA appeal code - it's the only way. You shouldn't ignore the invoices though - Parking Eye are issuing over 1000 court papers a month. You can still win at court, especially as Parking Eye have been proved to lie in court, but it less stressful to get POPLA to cancel the charge. Fight_Back
  • Score: 7

11:55am Mon 30 Jun 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

What to do if you get a parking ticket when you park on private land - when you receive a letter from the disgusting company trying to make you pay send them a reply.

Look up "commercial liens" by Veronica Chapman who is an expert in this field.

My husband did this, threatened them with a lien for £1 million pounds and never heard from them again.

You do not legally have to pay.

If it goes to court - do not panic, it's nothing. The court in Northampton isn't even a proper court, this has all been set up to rip the gullible British public off. Don't let them win.

Fight them all the way - these bar stewards should all be jailed but then our corrupt gov' is in with them and makes it easy for them all to rip us off.

Educate yourselves as to what is going on.
What to do if you get a parking ticket when you park on private land - when you receive a letter from the disgusting company trying to make you pay send them a reply. Look up "commercial liens" by Veronica Chapman who is an expert in this field. My husband did this, threatened them with a lien for £1 million pounds and never heard from them again. You do not legally have to pay. If it goes to court - do not panic, it's nothing. The court in Northampton isn't even a proper court, this has all been set up to rip the gullible British public off. Don't let them win. Fight them all the way - these bar stewards should all be jailed but then our corrupt gov' is in with them and makes it easy for them all to rip us off. Educate yourselves as to what is going on. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: 0

12:06pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Sheil says...

It's high time PR Haywards Heath invested in Credit/Debit Card machine.
Users of car park often do not have change & change machine runs out so they are forced to spend in the shop which enables them to get change.....so unfair!
It's high time PR Haywards Heath invested in Credit/Debit Card machine. Users of car park often do not have change & change machine runs out so they are forced to spend in the shop which enables them to get change.....so unfair! Sheil
  • Score: 4

12:21pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Fight_Back says...

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
What to do if you get a parking ticket when you park on private land - when you receive a letter from the disgusting company trying to make you pay send them a reply.

Look up "commercial liens" by Veronica Chapman who is an expert in this field.

My husband did this, threatened them with a lien for £1 million pounds and never heard from them again.

You do not legally have to pay.

If it goes to court - do not panic, it's nothing. The court in Northampton isn't even a proper court, this has all been set up to rip the gullible British public off. Don't let them win.

Fight them all the way - these bar stewards should all be jailed but then our corrupt gov' is in with them and makes it easy for them all to rip us off.

Educate yourselves as to what is going on.
I've seen some bad advice but this probably wins the prize !

Northampton Court is a clearing centre for MCOL ( Money Claims Online ). So it is real !

Google "MSE private parking tickets" for proper knowledgeable advice that works.
[quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: What to do if you get a parking ticket when you park on private land - when you receive a letter from the disgusting company trying to make you pay send them a reply. Look up "commercial liens" by Veronica Chapman who is an expert in this field. My husband did this, threatened them with a lien for £1 million pounds and never heard from them again. You do not legally have to pay. If it goes to court - do not panic, it's nothing. The court in Northampton isn't even a proper court, this has all been set up to rip the gullible British public off. Don't let them win. Fight them all the way - these bar stewards should all be jailed but then our corrupt gov' is in with them and makes it easy for them all to rip us off. Educate yourselves as to what is going on.[/p][/quote]I've seen some bad advice but this probably wins the prize ! Northampton Court is a clearing centre for MCOL ( Money Claims Online ). So it is real ! Google "MSE private parking tickets" for proper knowledgeable advice that works. Fight_Back
  • Score: 4

12:30pm Mon 30 Jun 14

DannyMan says...

That Veronica Chapman referred to above is one of the leading loonies in the sad, pathetic "Freeman on the Land" movement. Taking any advice from those nutters is invariably a mistake and sometimes lands people in jail.
That Veronica Chapman referred to above is one of the leading loonies in the sad, pathetic "Freeman on the Land" movement. Taking any advice from those nutters is invariably a mistake and sometimes lands people in jail. DannyMan
  • Score: 6

1:04pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Man of steel says...

DannyMan wrote:
That Veronica Chapman referred to above is one of the leading loonies in the sad, pathetic "Freeman on the Land" movement. Taking any advice from those nutters is invariably a mistake and sometimes lands people in jail.
I quite agree with you there, after reading the letter from "getthiscoilitionout
" I looked up the web site mentioned, and found it full of contradictions, one large one being if you are taken to a magistrates court, argue that it might be legal, but is not lawful, then later on talks about taking out a private prosecution, and taking them to a magistrates court, so she wants it both ways.
[quote][p][bold]DannyMan[/bold] wrote: That Veronica Chapman referred to above is one of the leading loonies in the sad, pathetic "Freeman on the Land" movement. Taking any advice from those nutters is invariably a mistake and sometimes lands people in jail.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you there, after reading the letter from "getthiscoilitionout " I looked up the web site mentioned, and found it full of contradictions, one large one being if you are taken to a magistrates court, argue that it might be legal, but is not lawful, then later on talks about taking out a private prosecution, and taking them to a magistrates court, so she wants it both ways. Man of steel
  • Score: 4

2:42pm Mon 30 Jun 14

peterthomas says...

michael505 wrote:
Why shouldn't people pay to park their vehicles. You pay on the streets so why not on private land. Providing the fees are reasonable I cannot see why you shouldn't pay. The money goes towards supporting the NHS which is a good thing.
So we need to "support" pen pushing administrators on huge 6 figure salaries and who bounce from job to "pay off" to job?? How much of the ludicrous car parking fees do the nurses see? Yet more evidence of the depths to which Cameron land has sunk. Shame Middle England hasn't got a backbone.
[quote][p][bold]michael505[/bold] wrote: Why shouldn't people pay to park their vehicles. You pay on the streets so why not on private land. Providing the fees are reasonable I cannot see why you shouldn't pay. The money goes towards supporting the NHS which is a good thing.[/p][/quote]So we need to "support" pen pushing administrators on huge 6 figure salaries and who bounce from job to "pay off" to job?? How much of the ludicrous car parking fees do the nurses see? Yet more evidence of the depths to which Cameron land has sunk. Shame Middle England hasn't got a backbone. peterthomas
  • Score: 0

5:29pm Mon 30 Jun 14

sussexram40 says...

Very wrong. When a close famiy member is in ICU on life support the last thing you should have to worry about every day is whether you have change for parking.
Very wrong. When a close famiy member is in ICU on life support the last thing you should have to worry about every day is whether you have change for parking. sussexram40
  • Score: 8

6:05pm Mon 30 Jun 14

michael505 says...

hubby wrote:
This is a public disgrace.
If you have someone in hospital who is long-term sick,and you want to visit them every day it could cost a small fortune.
I live in Spain and parking at hospitals is free.
Then go back to Spain
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: This is a public disgrace. If you have someone in hospital who is long-term sick,and you want to visit them every day it could cost a small fortune. I live in Spain and parking at hospitals is free.[/p][/quote]Then go back to Spain michael505
  • Score: -13

6:07pm Mon 30 Jun 14

michael505 says...

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
What to do if you get a parking ticket when you park on private land - when you receive a letter from the disgusting company trying to make you pay send them a reply.

Look up "commercial liens" by Veronica Chapman who is an expert in this field.

My husband did this, threatened them with a lien for £1 million pounds and never heard from them again.

You do not legally have to pay.

If it goes to court - do not panic, it's nothing. The court in Northampton isn't even a proper court, this has all been set up to rip the gullible British public off. Don't let them win.

Fight them all the way - these bar stewards should all be jailed but then our corrupt gov' is in with them and makes it easy for them all to rip us off.

Educate yourselves as to what is going on.
what a load of b.......
[quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: What to do if you get a parking ticket when you park on private land - when you receive a letter from the disgusting company trying to make you pay send them a reply. Look up "commercial liens" by Veronica Chapman who is an expert in this field. My husband did this, threatened them with a lien for £1 million pounds and never heard from them again. You do not legally have to pay. If it goes to court - do not panic, it's nothing. The court in Northampton isn't even a proper court, this has all been set up to rip the gullible British public off. Don't let them win. Fight them all the way - these bar stewards should all be jailed but then our corrupt gov' is in with them and makes it easy for them all to rip us off. Educate yourselves as to what is going on.[/p][/quote]what a load of b....... michael505
  • Score: 4

6:43pm Mon 30 Jun 14

MikeTheKnight says...

I'm quite happy paying for parking. Leave after 10pm and it's free for starters. Secondly I'd rather pay for parking, when I leave before 10pm :-)) than pay for healthcare.
I'm quite happy paying for parking. Leave after 10pm and it's free for starters. Secondly I'd rather pay for parking, when I leave before 10pm :-)) than pay for healthcare. MikeTheKnight
  • Score: -2

8:55pm Mon 30 Jun 14

michael505 says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
Totally disgusting.........h

ospitals and the car parks are built with OUR money, taxpayers money, then they have the cheek to charge us to park on it........I remember reading about a woman who received a parking ticket, fine, for not displaying a valid parking ticket........her mother had been rushed to hospital dying of a heart attack.....the last thing on her mind was a bloody parking ticket.
So by that reasoning you can park in Council Car parks and not pay as you pay council tax. What a stupid arguement. You pay income tax so does that give you the right to disobey all laws, I don't think so.
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: Totally disgusting.........h ospitals and the car parks are built with OUR money, taxpayers money, then they have the cheek to charge us to park on it........I remember reading about a woman who received a parking ticket, fine, for not displaying a valid parking ticket........her mother had been rushed to hospital dying of a heart attack.....the last thing on her mind was a bloody parking ticket.[/p][/quote]So by that reasoning you can park in Council Car parks and not pay as you pay council tax. What a stupid arguement. You pay income tax so does that give you the right to disobey all laws, I don't think so. michael505
  • Score: -3

9:34pm Mon 30 Jun 14

hubby says...

michael505 wrote:
hubby wrote:
This is a public disgrace.
If you have someone in hospital who is long-term sick,and you want to visit them every day it could cost a small fortune.
I live in Spain and parking at hospitals is free.
Then go back to Spain
I am already in Spain you moron.
[quote][p][bold]michael505[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: This is a public disgrace. If you have someone in hospital who is long-term sick,and you want to visit them every day it could cost a small fortune. I live in Spain and parking at hospitals is free.[/p][/quote]Then go back to Spain[/p][/quote]I am already in Spain you moron. hubby
  • Score: 11

10:01pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Parking in Spanish hospitals is free.....Spain is a bankrupt nation with a shocking youth unemployment rate of 25 per cent. The country is now introducing all sorts of taxes in an attempt to stabilise its economy.
Back at home many hospitals give Parking permits to the families and carers of those undergoing long term treatments such as chemotherapy. Not sure about these hospitals.
Parking in Spanish hospitals is free.....Spain is a bankrupt nation with a shocking youth unemployment rate of 25 per cent. The country is now introducing all sorts of taxes in an attempt to stabilise its economy. Back at home many hospitals give Parking permits to the families and carers of those undergoing long term treatments such as chemotherapy. Not sure about these hospitals. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: -5

10:09pm Mon 30 Jun 14

hoveguyactually says...

It would not take a great deal of effort for the hospital to provide a patient, who has an appointment, with a voucher for free or cheap parking. At the moment it is disgraceful that patients, who are probably suffering pain, as well as anxiety, are given the extra worry that they have to find the right money for a machine. And bearing in mind that, in spite of there being a given time for the appointment, delays are frequent , with patients sometimes being kept waiting for hours, it is appalling that the hospital has to stoop to such mean minded tactics to squeeze more money out of them, at what is such a vulnerable time. But then whoever expects common sense or compassion from hospital administrators?
It would not take a great deal of effort for the hospital to provide a patient, who has an appointment, with a voucher for free or cheap parking. At the moment it is disgraceful that patients, who are probably suffering pain, as well as anxiety, are given the extra worry that they have to find the right money for a machine. And bearing in mind that, in spite of there being a given time for the appointment, delays are frequent , with patients sometimes being kept waiting for hours, it is appalling that the hospital has to stoop to such mean minded tactics to squeeze more money out of them, at what is such a vulnerable time. But then whoever expects common sense or compassion from hospital administrators? hoveguyactually
  • Score: 8

10:31pm Mon 30 Jun 14

greeg3 says...

michael505 wrote:
Why shouldn't people pay to park their vehicles. You pay on the streets so why not on private land. Providing the fees are reasonable I cannot see why you shouldn't pay. The money goes towards supporting the NHS which is a good thing.
It doesn't go on health care,it goes on management wages.If you knew anything,you'd know that !
[quote][p][bold]michael505[/bold] wrote: Why shouldn't people pay to park their vehicles. You pay on the streets so why not on private land. Providing the fees are reasonable I cannot see why you shouldn't pay. The money goes towards supporting the NHS which is a good thing.[/p][/quote]It doesn't go on health care,it goes on management wages.If you knew anything,you'd know that ! greeg3
  • Score: 5

10:42pm Mon 30 Jun 14

BrightonTrooper says...

Parking at the Sussex County is a nightmare at anytime of the day.. if it was free, then you would never get a space as it would be filled up permanently by people working in the city..
This is the exact reason St Richards in Chichester implemented parking charges.
Parking at the Sussex County is a nightmare at anytime of the day.. if it was free, then you would never get a space as it would be filled up permanently by people working in the city.. This is the exact reason St Richards in Chichester implemented parking charges. BrightonTrooper
  • Score: -5

10:53pm Mon 30 Jun 14

From beer to uncertainty says...

An aside: please could all the posters on here remind everyone they might know about the following:
1. If you get an infection as a result of getting a tattoo or piercing then maybe kindly first sort it out with the 'professionals' that you gave your housing benefit to in order to pay for a tongue piercing or picture of your gran on your backside.
2. Don't call an ambulance or demand a home visit if you expect genuine respect after lucking-out with the new piercing or tatt.
3. A, final, big ask: don't bleat about parking charges when 'me cousin oo ad to drop me off' did so without insurance in an in-taxed car, that was welded together in the east-midlands from two stolen cars.

Who knows...there might be enough in the kitty to stop honest folk having to pinch every bloomin' penny!
An aside: please could all the posters on here remind everyone they might know about the following: 1. If you get an infection as a result of getting a tattoo or piercing then maybe kindly first sort it out with the 'professionals' that you gave your housing benefit to in order to pay for a tongue piercing or picture of your gran on your backside. 2. Don't call an ambulance or demand a home visit if you expect genuine respect after lucking-out with the new piercing or tatt. 3. A, final, big ask: don't bleat about parking charges when 'me cousin oo ad to drop me off' did so without insurance in an in-taxed car, that was welded together in the east-midlands from two stolen cars. Who knows...there might be enough in the kitty to stop honest folk having to pinch every bloomin' penny! From beer to uncertainty
  • Score: 0

12:32am Tue 1 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

Fight_Back wrote:
cookie_brighton wrote:
Totally disgusting.........h


ospitals and the car parks are built with OUR money, taxpayers money, then they have the cheek to charge us to park on it........I remember reading about a woman who received a parking ticket, fine, for not displaying a valid parking ticket........her mother had been rushed to hospital dying of a heart attack.....the last thing on her mind was a bloody parking ticket.
And this just backs up my last post. By the way - they are not fines ( only the council, police and courts can fine you ). They are instead an invitation to pay. An invitation you can reject. NEVER pay a private parking ticket, always appeal first to the parking company and then use the POPLA / IAS code they have to give you when they reject your appeal. ALL these charges can be defeated.
Unfortunately you are talking rubbish - which could result in people ending up paying out a lot more in the long run if they don't purchase a ticket. If you have parked and deliberately not paid then POPLA/IAS will not be able to help!
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: Totally disgusting.........h ospitals and the car parks are built with OUR money, taxpayers money, then they have the cheek to charge us to park on it........I remember reading about a woman who received a parking ticket, fine, for not displaying a valid parking ticket........her mother had been rushed to hospital dying of a heart attack.....the last thing on her mind was a bloody parking ticket.[/p][/quote]And this just backs up my last post. By the way - they are not fines ( only the council, police and courts can fine you ). They are instead an invitation to pay. An invitation you can reject. NEVER pay a private parking ticket, always appeal first to the parking company and then use the POPLA / IAS code they have to give you when they reject your appeal. ALL these charges can be defeated.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately you are talking rubbish - which could result in people ending up paying out a lot more in the long run if they don't purchase a ticket. If you have parked and deliberately not paid then POPLA/IAS will not be able to help! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 1

12:41am Tue 1 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

Fight_Back wrote:
getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
What to do if you get a parking ticket when you park on private land - when you receive a letter from the disgusting company trying to make you pay send them a reply.

Look up "commercial liens" by Veronica Chapman who is an expert in this field.

My husband did this, threatened them with a lien for £1 million pounds and never heard from them again.

You do not legally have to pay.

If it goes to court - do not panic, it's nothing. The court in Northampton isn't even a proper court, this has all been set up to rip the gullible British public off. Don't let them win.

Fight them all the way - these bar stewards should all be jailed but then our corrupt gov' is in with them and makes it easy for them all to rip us off.

Educate yourselves as to what is going on.
I've seen some bad advice but this probably wins the prize !

Northampton Court is a clearing centre for MCOL ( Money Claims Online ). So it is real !

Google "MSE private parking tickets" for proper knowledgeable advice that works.
You REALLY are talking rubbish that could result in people reading your posts paying a LOT MORE in the end than the cost of the parking!
The MSE website deals with UNFAIR parking tickets that have been wrongly issued and offers NO ADVICE for deliberately not initially buying a parking ticket so your 'advice' is plainly stupid and, more importantly, blatantly WRONG!!
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: What to do if you get a parking ticket when you park on private land - when you receive a letter from the disgusting company trying to make you pay send them a reply. Look up "commercial liens" by Veronica Chapman who is an expert in this field. My husband did this, threatened them with a lien for £1 million pounds and never heard from them again. You do not legally have to pay. If it goes to court - do not panic, it's nothing. The court in Northampton isn't even a proper court, this has all been set up to rip the gullible British public off. Don't let them win. Fight them all the way - these bar stewards should all be jailed but then our corrupt gov' is in with them and makes it easy for them all to rip us off. Educate yourselves as to what is going on.[/p][/quote]I've seen some bad advice but this probably wins the prize ! Northampton Court is a clearing centre for MCOL ( Money Claims Online ). So it is real ! Google "MSE private parking tickets" for proper knowledgeable advice that works.[/p][/quote]You REALLY are talking rubbish that could result in people reading your posts paying a LOT MORE in the end than the cost of the parking! The MSE website deals with UNFAIR parking tickets that have been wrongly issued and offers NO ADVICE for deliberately not initially buying a parking ticket so your 'advice' is plainly stupid and, more importantly, blatantly WRONG!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 2

12:44am Tue 1 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

hubby wrote:
michael505 wrote:
hubby wrote:
This is a public disgrace.
If you have someone in hospital who is long-term sick,and you want to visit them every day it could cost a small fortune.
I live in Spain and parking at hospitals is free.
Then go back to Spain
I am already in Spain you moron.
PMSL - My thoughts exactly!!
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]michael505[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: This is a public disgrace. If you have someone in hospital who is long-term sick,and you want to visit them every day it could cost a small fortune. I live in Spain and parking at hospitals is free.[/p][/quote]Then go back to Spain[/p][/quote]I am already in Spain you moron.[/p][/quote]PMSL - My thoughts exactly!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

4:23am Tue 1 Jul 14

Fight_Back says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
What to do if you get a parking ticket when you park on private land - when you receive a letter from the disgusting company trying to make you pay send them a reply.

Look up "commercial liens" by Veronica Chapman who is an expert in this field.

My husband did this, threatened them with a lien for £1 million pounds and never heard from them again.

You do not legally have to pay.

If it goes to court - do not panic, it's nothing. The court in Northampton isn't even a proper court, this has all been set up to rip the gullible British public off. Don't let them win.

Fight them all the way - these bar stewards should all be jailed but then our corrupt gov' is in with them and makes it easy for them all to rip us off.

Educate yourselves as to what is going on.
I've seen some bad advice but this probably wins the prize !

Northampton Court is a clearing centre for MCOL ( Money Claims Online ). So it is real !

Google "MSE private parking tickets" for proper knowledgeable advice that works.
You REALLY are talking rubbish that could result in people reading your posts paying a LOT MORE in the end than the cost of the parking!
The MSE website deals with UNFAIR parking tickets that have been wrongly issued and offers NO ADVICE for deliberately not initially buying a parking ticket so your 'advice' is plainly stupid and, more importantly, blatantly WRONG!!
You really need to learn to read before posting. I haven't once suggested people shouldn't pay the parking fee. What I said was that there was no need to pay a private parking ticket - i.e. what you get if you accidentally overstay by say 20 minutes or if your wheel happens to be touching a white line. I'm well aware of what MSE offers thank you as I assist people on there daily. I have won dozens of POPLA appeals for people.

So just to clarify for your simple little brain - everyone should pay the parking fees BUT nobody should ever pay for a private parking ticket.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: What to do if you get a parking ticket when you park on private land - when you receive a letter from the disgusting company trying to make you pay send them a reply. Look up "commercial liens" by Veronica Chapman who is an expert in this field. My husband did this, threatened them with a lien for £1 million pounds and never heard from them again. You do not legally have to pay. If it goes to court - do not panic, it's nothing. The court in Northampton isn't even a proper court, this has all been set up to rip the gullible British public off. Don't let them win. Fight them all the way - these bar stewards should all be jailed but then our corrupt gov' is in with them and makes it easy for them all to rip us off. Educate yourselves as to what is going on.[/p][/quote]I've seen some bad advice but this probably wins the prize ! Northampton Court is a clearing centre for MCOL ( Money Claims Online ). So it is real ! Google "MSE private parking tickets" for proper knowledgeable advice that works.[/p][/quote]You REALLY are talking rubbish that could result in people reading your posts paying a LOT MORE in the end than the cost of the parking! The MSE website deals with UNFAIR parking tickets that have been wrongly issued and offers NO ADVICE for deliberately not initially buying a parking ticket so your 'advice' is plainly stupid and, more importantly, blatantly WRONG!![/p][/quote]You really need to learn to read before posting. I haven't once suggested people shouldn't pay the parking fee. What I said was that there was no need to pay a private parking ticket - i.e. what you get if you accidentally overstay by say 20 minutes or if your wheel happens to be touching a white line. I'm well aware of what MSE offers thank you as I assist people on there daily. I have won dozens of POPLA appeals for people. So just to clarify for your simple little brain - everyone should pay the parking fees BUT nobody should ever pay for a private parking ticket. Fight_Back
  • Score: -2

6:39am Tue 1 Jul 14

DannyMan says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
cookie_brighton wrote:
Totally disgusting.........h



ospitals and the car parks are built with OUR money, taxpayers money, then they have the cheek to charge us to park on it........I remember reading about a woman who received a parking ticket, fine, for not displaying a valid parking ticket........her mother had been rushed to hospital dying of a heart attack.....the last thing on her mind was a bloody parking ticket.
And this just backs up my last post. By the way - they are not fines ( only the council, police and courts can fine you ). They are instead an invitation to pay. An invitation you can reject. NEVER pay a private parking ticket, always appeal first to the parking company and then use the POPLA / IAS code they have to give you when they reject your appeal. ALL these charges can be defeated.
Unfortunately you are talking rubbish - which could result in people ending up paying out a lot more in the long run if they don't purchase a ticket. If you have parked and deliberately not paid then POPLA/IAS will not be able to help!
Actually they will you know. Whatever the rights or wrongs of it PoPLA will cancel any fake fine where the appellant states that it does not represent a genuine pre-estimate of loss to the parking company or landowner. If someone doesn't buy a ticket the loss is the cost of the ticket, not the £100 or whatever.

PoPLA doesn't deal in ethics or morality, it deals solely in legal technicalities. People who learn how PoPLA works invariably win on legal technicalities whatever the circumstances. People who don't learn how PoPLA works invariably lose on legal technicalities whatever the circumstances.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: Totally disgusting.........h ospitals and the car parks are built with OUR money, taxpayers money, then they have the cheek to charge us to park on it........I remember reading about a woman who received a parking ticket, fine, for not displaying a valid parking ticket........her mother had been rushed to hospital dying of a heart attack.....the last thing on her mind was a bloody parking ticket.[/p][/quote]And this just backs up my last post. By the way - they are not fines ( only the council, police and courts can fine you ). They are instead an invitation to pay. An invitation you can reject. NEVER pay a private parking ticket, always appeal first to the parking company and then use the POPLA / IAS code they have to give you when they reject your appeal. ALL these charges can be defeated.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately you are talking rubbish - which could result in people ending up paying out a lot more in the long run if they don't purchase a ticket. If you have parked and deliberately not paid then POPLA/IAS will not be able to help![/p][/quote]Actually they will you know. Whatever the rights or wrongs of it PoPLA will cancel any fake fine where the appellant states that it does not represent a genuine pre-estimate of loss to the parking company or landowner. If someone doesn't buy a ticket the loss is the cost of the ticket, not the £100 or whatever. PoPLA doesn't deal in ethics or morality, it deals solely in legal technicalities. People who learn how PoPLA works invariably win on legal technicalities whatever the circumstances. People who don't learn how PoPLA works invariably lose on legal technicalities whatever the circumstances. DannyMan
  • Score: 1

11:06am Tue 1 Jul 14

The Truth from Henfield says...

I wonder how many people realise that all nursing staff have to pay at RSCH and PRH either daily or annually deducted from their wages even the most lowest paid on min wage if they are caught without a ticket suffer intimidation to pay from the Hospital security whom enforce the parking at RSCH and at PRH This the very department who park for FREE at both hospitals, this must be the most highly paid hospital security department in the country I quote:
''It earned £1.031m between April 2013 and the end of March this year, a slight drop on the year before.

A trust spokesman said: “This is reinvested in car parking facilities and security arrangements and allows us to spend more money we receive from tax payers on the care of patients.”
RSCH PRH sort it out......
I wonder how many people realise that all nursing staff have to pay at RSCH and PRH either daily or annually deducted from their wages even the most lowest paid on min wage if they are caught without a ticket suffer intimidation to pay from the Hospital security whom enforce the parking at RSCH and at PRH This the very department who park for FREE at both hospitals, this must be the most highly paid hospital security department in the country I quote: ''It earned £1.031m between April 2013 and the end of March this year, a slight drop on the year before. A trust spokesman said: “This is reinvested in car parking facilities and security arrangements and allows us to spend more money we receive from tax payers on the care of patients.” RSCH PRH sort it out...... The Truth from Henfield
  • Score: 3

11:31am Tue 1 Jul 14

Fight_Back says...

The Truth from Henfield wrote:
I wonder how many people realise that all nursing staff have to pay at RSCH and PRH either daily or annually deducted from their wages even the most lowest paid on min wage if they are caught without a ticket suffer intimidation to pay from the Hospital security whom enforce the parking at RSCH and at PRH This the very department who park for FREE at both hospitals, this must be the most highly paid hospital security department in the country I quote:
''It earned £1.031m between April 2013 and the end of March this year, a slight drop on the year before.

A trust spokesman said: “This is reinvested in car parking facilities and security arrangements and allows us to spend more money we receive from tax payers on the care of patients.”
RSCH PRH sort it out......
As I've already posted - the hospital nor any sub-contracted supplier can MAKE you pay for what many people call 'fines' ( which aren't really fines ).
[quote][p][bold]The Truth from Henfield[/bold] wrote: I wonder how many people realise that all nursing staff have to pay at RSCH and PRH either daily or annually deducted from their wages even the most lowest paid on min wage if they are caught without a ticket suffer intimidation to pay from the Hospital security whom enforce the parking at RSCH and at PRH This the very department who park for FREE at both hospitals, this must be the most highly paid hospital security department in the country I quote: ''It earned £1.031m between April 2013 and the end of March this year, a slight drop on the year before. A trust spokesman said: “This is reinvested in car parking facilities and security arrangements and allows us to spend more money we receive from tax payers on the care of patients.” RSCH PRH sort it out......[/p][/quote]As I've already posted - the hospital nor any sub-contracted supplier can MAKE you pay for what many people call 'fines' ( which aren't really fines ). Fight_Back
  • Score: 0

5:19pm Tue 1 Jul 14

The Truth from Henfield says...

Fight_Back wrote:
The Truth from Henfield wrote:
I wonder how many people realise that all nursing staff have to pay at RSCH and PRH either daily or annually deducted from their wages even the most lowest paid on min wage if they are caught without a ticket suffer intimidation to pay from the Hospital security whom enforce the parking at RSCH and at PRH This the very department who park for FREE at both hospitals, this must be the most highly paid hospital security department in the country I quote:
''It earned £1.031m between April 2013 and the end of March this year, a slight drop on the year before.

A trust spokesman said: “This is reinvested in car parking facilities and security arrangements and allows us to spend more money we receive from tax payers on the care of patients.”
RSCH PRH sort it out......
As I've already posted - the hospital nor any sub-contracted supplier can MAKE you pay for what many people call 'fines' ( which aren't really fines ).
Fight_Back I understand what you are saying but put yourself in the position of a female nurse trying to leave the car park even if she's been called in on an emergency the security guy will not raise the barrier to let her out unless she goes to the pay machine and pays the daily rate for a ticket there is a queue of traffic behind all wanting to leave, all that intimidation works and this happens day in day out, and as I have stated the security enforcing this get free 12hr parking at both hospitals obtaining monies by bully boy tactics.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Truth from Henfield[/bold] wrote: I wonder how many people realise that all nursing staff have to pay at RSCH and PRH either daily or annually deducted from their wages even the most lowest paid on min wage if they are caught without a ticket suffer intimidation to pay from the Hospital security whom enforce the parking at RSCH and at PRH This the very department who park for FREE at both hospitals, this must be the most highly paid hospital security department in the country I quote: ''It earned £1.031m between April 2013 and the end of March this year, a slight drop on the year before. A trust spokesman said: “This is reinvested in car parking facilities and security arrangements and allows us to spend more money we receive from tax payers on the care of patients.” RSCH PRH sort it out......[/p][/quote]As I've already posted - the hospital nor any sub-contracted supplier can MAKE you pay for what many people call 'fines' ( which aren't really fines ).[/p][/quote]Fight_Back I understand what you are saying but put yourself in the position of a female nurse trying to leave the car park even if she's been called in on an emergency the security guy will not raise the barrier to let her out unless she goes to the pay machine and pays the daily rate for a ticket there is a queue of traffic behind all wanting to leave, all that intimidation works and this happens day in day out, and as I have stated the security enforcing this get free 12hr parking at both hospitals obtaining monies by bully boy tactics. The Truth from Henfield
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