Brighton and Hove Buses driver attacked in New Church Road in Hove

Cyclist police are trying to trace

Cyclist police are trying to trace

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A cyclist smashed a bus window and attacked the driver on one of the city’s busiest roads.


The bus driver needed hospital treatment after he suffered a head injury in the shocking attack in Hove.


Emergency services were called to New Church Road at 1.10pm last Wednesday to reports of the driver being set upon by a cyclist riding a racing style bike after an altercation.


Brighton and Hove Buses managing director Martin Harris said: “We’re just very unhappy about it.


“It’s a great concern to us and suffice to say we’ll be doing absolutely everything we can to assist police and make sure that action is taken against somebody who attacked a member of our staff.”


Mr Harris called the attack “shocking” and said he had not experienced anything this sinister since he joined as chief in April last year.


He said: “It’s very rare to have an incident of this seriousness, but one is too many.
“We have and will continue to give police our full commitment so that we can bring the perpetrator to justice.”


The driver is not back on the road after his ordeal and his colleagues rallied around him during his recovery.


Mr Harris added: “There is a strong camaraderie within the business and they were very concerned about the driver, as were we as his employers.


“He’s doing much better.


“We supported him when he was taken to hospital and he will continue to get our full support as police continue their investigations.”


The attacker, who is described as a white man in his late 20s or early 30s, had then ridden off in the direction of Portslade.


He was wearing a dark blue suit and carrying a leather shoulder bag.

Anyone who saw what happened or has any information is asked to contact police on 101 or email 101@sussex.pnn.police.uk quoting serial 716 of 25/6.

Did you see the attack? Get in touch by emailing gareth.davies@theargus.co.uk.

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10:28am Tue 1 Jul 14

FC says...

My god, Argus.

WHERE on New Church Road? Do you know how long it is?
WHAT bus number? There's a lot that go down there.

If you want our help, you're going to have to help us with proper information first.
My god, Argus. WHERE on New Church Road? Do you know how long it is? WHAT bus number? There's a lot that go down there. If you want our help, you're going to have to help us with proper information first. FC
  • Score: 47

10:47am Tue 1 Jul 14

Andy R says...

Not quite sure why you need to know. You either saw it or you didn't. The Argus might have chosen a more helpful bus picture though. I'm guessing the one involved wasn't actually got up in this livery?
Not quite sure why you need to know. You either saw it or you didn't. The Argus might have chosen a more helpful bus picture though. I'm guessing the one involved wasn't actually got up in this livery? Andy R
  • Score: 25

11:13am Tue 1 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault?

It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver.

The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.
Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault? It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver. The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company. stevo!!
  • Score: -71

11:26am Tue 1 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

FC wrote:
My god, Argus.

WHERE on New Church Road? Do you know how long it is?
WHAT bus number? There's a lot that go down there.

If you want our help, you're going to have to help us with proper information first.
Why??

If people saw the incident, then where it happened or the route number are irrelevant.

All that is required is help with identifying the cyclist.
[quote][p][bold]FC[/bold] wrote: My god, Argus. WHERE on New Church Road? Do you know how long it is? WHAT bus number? There's a lot that go down there. If you want our help, you're going to have to help us with proper information first.[/p][/quote]Why?? If people saw the incident, then where it happened or the route number are irrelevant. All that is required is help with identifying the cyclist. stevo!!
  • Score: 16

11:43am Tue 1 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

Brighton buses are smothered in cctv cameras. The police will have pictures of the cyclist and what had happened to cause the incident.
Brighton buses are smothered in cctv cameras. The police will have pictures of the cyclist and what had happened to cause the incident. We love Red Billy
  • Score: 27

11:56am Tue 1 Jul 14

Andy R says...

stevo!! wrote:
Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault?

It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver.

The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.
You're drawing this conclusion....how...
.exactly?
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault? It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver. The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.[/p][/quote]You're drawing this conclusion....how... .exactly? Andy R
  • Score: 23

12:05pm Tue 1 Jul 14

mthew says...

Now mr Harris suddenly cares..well I supposed he has to to save bad publicity....supervi
sors can be sent to incidents involving drunk people that threaten to bottle them and the employee gets injured ....and Mr Harris didn't give a toss or worry about prosecuting the pepetrator then....If bus drivers had the support of properly trained supervisors or indeed the special constable that's paid over 18 grand a year for that purpose maybe the poor driver wouldn't have got attacked.....its a shame that the drivers are out there alone...how many more employees have to be assaulted before the bus company do something...
Now mr Harris suddenly cares..well I supposed he has to to save bad publicity....supervi sors can be sent to incidents involving drunk people that threaten to bottle them and the employee gets injured ....and Mr Harris didn't give a toss or worry about prosecuting the pepetrator then....If bus drivers had the support of properly trained supervisors or indeed the special constable that's paid over 18 grand a year for that purpose maybe the poor driver wouldn't have got attacked.....its a shame that the drivers are out there alone...how many more employees have to be assaulted before the bus company do something... mthew
  • Score: 24

2:38pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

Blame:

Paul Barber
Ben Duncan
David Burke
Blame: Paul Barber Ben Duncan David Burke Withdean-er
  • Score: 8

3:04pm Tue 1 Jul 14

james4618 says...

I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.
I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money. james4618
  • Score: 7

3:36pm Tue 1 Jul 14

monkeymoo says...

No need for violence against bus drivers.

If they happen to drive like an idiot......
......Just roll up behind them at the next stop / traffic lights, and press the 'Emergency Engine Stop' button.
The engine cannot be re-started until the button is physically reset. Meaning a trip for the driver, out of their cab and to the rear of the bus.

You have your revenge, no one is hurt.
Perfect!
No need for violence against bus drivers. If they happen to drive like an idiot...... ......Just roll up behind them at the next stop / traffic lights, and press the 'Emergency Engine Stop' button. The engine cannot be re-started until the button is physically reset. Meaning a trip for the driver, out of their cab and to the rear of the bus. You have your revenge, no one is hurt. Perfect! monkeymoo
  • Score: 67

3:39pm Tue 1 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Andy R wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault?

It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver.

The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.
You're drawing this conclusion....how...

.exactly?
My comments are based on experience, knowledge and what is written in the report.

HTH
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault? It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver. The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.[/p][/quote]You're drawing this conclusion....how... .exactly?[/p][/quote]My comments are based on experience, knowledge and what is written in the report. HTH stevo!!
  • Score: 4

3:40pm Tue 1 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

We love Red Billy wrote:
Brighton buses are smothered in cctv cameras. The police will have pictures of the cyclist and what had happened to cause the incident.
I suspect that the police and bus company have no intention of releasing any information about what happened immediately prior to this incident.
[quote][p][bold]We love Red Billy[/bold] wrote: Brighton buses are smothered in cctv cameras. The police will have pictures of the cyclist and what had happened to cause the incident.[/p][/quote]I suspect that the police and bus company have no intention of releasing any information about what happened immediately prior to this incident. stevo!!
  • Score: 13

5:56pm Tue 1 Jul 14

BURIRAM says...

monkeymoo wrote:
No need for violence against bus drivers.

If they happen to drive like an idiot......
......Just roll up behind them at the next stop / traffic lights, and press the 'Emergency Engine Stop' button.
The engine cannot be re-started until the button is physically reset. Meaning a trip for the driver, out of their cab and to the rear of the bus.

You have your revenge, no one is hurt.
Perfect!
And you will be on CCTV and charged with interfering with a public service vehicle. Idiot
[quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: No need for violence against bus drivers. If they happen to drive like an idiot...... ......Just roll up behind them at the next stop / traffic lights, and press the 'Emergency Engine Stop' button. The engine cannot be re-started until the button is physically reset. Meaning a trip for the driver, out of their cab and to the rear of the bus. You have your revenge, no one is hurt. Perfect![/p][/quote]And you will be on CCTV and charged with interfering with a public service vehicle. Idiot BURIRAM
  • Score: 15

6:17pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Andy R says...

stevo!! wrote:
Andy R wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault?

It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver.

The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.
You're drawing this conclusion....how...


.exactly?
My comments are based on experience, knowledge and what is written in the report.

HTH
So complete b0ll0x then.......
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault? It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver. The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.[/p][/quote]You're drawing this conclusion....how... .exactly?[/p][/quote]My comments are based on experience, knowledge and what is written in the report. HTH[/p][/quote]So complete b0ll0x then....... Andy R
  • Score: 15

6:41pm Tue 1 Jul 14

jackthekipper says...

a bus pulled out on me while doing 50 along the ovingdean -brighton a259 and nearly caused a multi pile up and give me the finger as i went by and i wasnt even remonstrating with him!,what i mean to say is there are some over zealous bus drivers and there are two sides to each story,come to think of it i think the bus driver was a she !!
a bus pulled out on me while doing 50 along the ovingdean -brighton a259 and nearly caused a multi pile up and give me the finger as i went by and i wasnt even remonstrating with him!,what i mean to say is there are some over zealous bus drivers and there are two sides to each story,come to think of it i think the bus driver was a she !! jackthekipper
  • Score: 36

6:54pm Tue 1 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Andy R wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Andy R wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault?

It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver.

The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.
You're drawing this conclusion....how...



.exactly?
My comments are based on experience, knowledge and what is written in the report.

HTH
So complete b0ll0x then.......
Feel free to argue with any points raised, but failing to do so is an admission that you can't.
[quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andy R[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault? It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver. The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.[/p][/quote]You're drawing this conclusion....how... .exactly?[/p][/quote]My comments are based on experience, knowledge and what is written in the report. HTH[/p][/quote]So complete b0ll0x then.......[/p][/quote]Feel free to argue with any points raised, but failing to do so is an admission that you can't. stevo!!
  • Score: -14

6:55pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Bsxking1 says...

The way a lot of bus drivers drive I'm surprised this is the first time it's happened they think they own the road well done cyclist
The way a lot of bus drivers drive I'm surprised this is the first time it's happened they think they own the road well done cyclist Bsxking1
  • Score: -19

6:55pm Tue 1 Jul 14

chrismilo says...

james4618 wrote:
I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.
exactly
[quote][p][bold]james4618[/bold] wrote: I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.[/p][/quote]exactly chrismilo
  • Score: 12

7:13pm Tue 1 Jul 14

lizzy1 says...

My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!!
My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!! lizzy1
  • Score: 45

7:34pm Tue 1 Jul 14

RsTrada says...

Bsxking1 wrote:
The way a lot of bus drivers drive I'm surprised this is the first time it's happened they think they own the road well done cyclist
Wow, how ignorant are you!

Regardless of what kind of road user you are no one deserves this!

I was once a bus driver (and before I even start I am not standing up for this driver as I do not know what has happened between them for this to occur) but bus drivers get a lot of slack from a big amount of the public.

Yes there are bus drivers that are grumpy, rude and don't always have a smile on their faces but if the general public knew what it takes to be a bus driver they would think differently.

It's not just a case of driving a bus, there are one hundred and one different obstacles a bus driver has to get over in a day to day basis.

For example bus drivers have a strict timetable they must follow as closely as they can and if they're late they get flack from the passengers even though 90% of the time it's not actually down to them why they're late.

Whilst driving they have to be constantly alert to any dangers that they might face like pedestrians walking out on them in the middle of town or the cyclists who seem to think its ok to weave Inbetween buses or do their upmost to get In front of a bus at the traffic lights only to hold that bus up when they take off or even ones who don't think of their own safety and wear dark colour clothes at night with no lights and then wonder why you find it hard to see them.

How about the car drives who will sit behind a bus while they're serving a bus stop only to over take that bus when they go to depart from that stop or the cars that will purposely refuse to give way to a bus even though it isn't their right of way.

This is just a few things a bus drivers has to overcome and therefore need to be slightly aggressive to an extent to be able to get anywhere whilst driving.

I think if the public have the bus driver a bit more slack and tried to understand how stressful the job can be then the majority of the bus drivers would be more happy. Don't get me wrong some you just can't help!

You don't know what kind of day that bus driver has just had and although yes they do have a responsibility to be profession and not let these things get to them but who can say they have not had days where they themselves have let the kind of day they are having effect their job in one way or another.

I'm have gone on a slight rant but when I read something to do with bus drivers there's always people giving them a hard time!

As for what has happened this bus driver could be in the wrong completely but I never met a driver in all my years driving that went out their way to agitate another type of road user, especially not a cyclist.
[quote][p][bold]Bsxking1[/bold] wrote: The way a lot of bus drivers drive I'm surprised this is the first time it's happened they think they own the road well done cyclist[/p][/quote]Wow, how ignorant are you! Regardless of what kind of road user you are no one deserves this! I was once a bus driver (and before I even start I am not standing up for this driver as I do not know what has happened between them for this to occur) but bus drivers get a lot of slack from a big amount of the public. Yes there are bus drivers that are grumpy, rude and don't always have a smile on their faces but if the general public knew what it takes to be a bus driver they would think differently. It's not just a case of driving a bus, there are one hundred and one different obstacles a bus driver has to get over in a day to day basis. For example bus drivers have a strict timetable they must follow as closely as they can and if they're late they get flack from the passengers even though 90% of the time it's not actually down to them why they're late. Whilst driving they have to be constantly alert to any dangers that they might face like pedestrians walking out on them in the middle of town or the cyclists who seem to think its ok to weave Inbetween buses or do their upmost to get In front of a bus at the traffic lights only to hold that bus up when they take off or even ones who don't think of their own safety and wear dark colour clothes at night with no lights and then wonder why you find it hard to see them. How about the car drives who will sit behind a bus while they're serving a bus stop only to over take that bus when they go to depart from that stop or the cars that will purposely refuse to give way to a bus even though it isn't their right of way. This is just a few things a bus drivers has to overcome and therefore need to be slightly aggressive to an extent to be able to get anywhere whilst driving. I think if the public have the bus driver a bit more slack and tried to understand how stressful the job can be then the majority of the bus drivers would be more happy. Don't get me wrong some you just can't help! You don't know what kind of day that bus driver has just had and although yes they do have a responsibility to be profession and not let these things get to them but who can say they have not had days where they themselves have let the kind of day they are having effect their job in one way or another. I'm have gone on a slight rant but when I read something to do with bus drivers there's always people giving them a hard time! As for what has happened this bus driver could be in the wrong completely but I never met a driver in all my years driving that went out their way to agitate another type of road user, especially not a cyclist. RsTrada
  • Score: 40

7:44pm Tue 1 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

lizzy1 wrote:
My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!!
No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him.

Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving.

We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted.

People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.
[quote][p][bold]lizzy1[/bold] wrote: My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!![/p][/quote]No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him. Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving. We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted. People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right. stevo!!
  • Score: -33

8:15pm Tue 1 Jul 14

lizzy1 says...

stevo!! wrote:
lizzy1 wrote:
My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!!
No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him.

Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving.

We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted.

People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.
There is no way you are right. Ok, so let's say that the bus driver drove in a way which caused the cyclist to react how he did, that my dear Stevo would be road rage, would it not?? You have yourself within your comment stated that it's fine to attack someone if the situation warrants it. No situation warrants assault on another, regardless of provocation or reason.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lizzy1[/bold] wrote: My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!![/p][/quote]No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him. Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving. We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted. People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.[/p][/quote]There is no way you are right. Ok, so let's say that the bus driver drove in a way which caused the cyclist to react how he did, that my dear Stevo would be road rage, would it not?? You have yourself within your comment stated that it's fine to attack someone if the situation warrants it. No situation warrants assault on another, regardless of provocation or reason. lizzy1
  • Score: 25

8:32pm Tue 1 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

lizzy1 wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
lizzy1 wrote:
My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!!
No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him.

Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving.

We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted.

People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.
There is no way you are right. Ok, so let's say that the bus driver drove in a way which caused the cyclist to react how he did, that my dear Stevo would be road rage, would it not?? You have yourself within your comment stated that it's fine to attack someone if the situation warrants it. No situation warrants assault on another, regardless of provocation or reason.
We don't actually know who was to blame for the incident.

All we have is an allegation from a bus driver that a cyclist attacked him and the bus. I am right about that, yes?

No-one has actually stated who was to blame for the alleged incident, so I'm right about that, too.

Bus drivers sometimes behave in a manner which endangers fellow road-users, especially vulnerable cyclists, so I'm right about that, too.

Bus drivers sometimes fully deserve retribution from those they endanger, so I'm right about that, as well.
[quote][p][bold]lizzy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lizzy1[/bold] wrote: My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!![/p][/quote]No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him. Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving. We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted. People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.[/p][/quote]There is no way you are right. Ok, so let's say that the bus driver drove in a way which caused the cyclist to react how he did, that my dear Stevo would be road rage, would it not?? You have yourself within your comment stated that it's fine to attack someone if the situation warrants it. No situation warrants assault on another, regardless of provocation or reason.[/p][/quote]We don't actually know who was to blame for the incident. All we have is an allegation from a bus driver that a cyclist attacked him and the bus. I am right about that, yes? No-one has actually stated who was to blame for the alleged incident, so I'm right about that, too. Bus drivers sometimes behave in a manner which endangers fellow road-users, especially vulnerable cyclists, so I'm right about that, too. Bus drivers sometimes fully deserve retribution from those they endanger, so I'm right about that, as well. stevo!!
  • Score: -21

8:46pm Tue 1 Jul 14

polheg says...

monkeymoo wrote:
No need for violence against bus drivers.

If they happen to drive like an idiot......
......Just roll up behind them at the next stop / traffic lights, and press the 'Emergency Engine Stop' button.
The engine cannot be re-started until the button is physically reset. Meaning a trip for the driver, out of their cab and to the rear of the bus.

You have your revenge, no one is hurt.
Perfect!
Not true - I am a bus driver .....
[quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: No need for violence against bus drivers. If they happen to drive like an idiot...... ......Just roll up behind them at the next stop / traffic lights, and press the 'Emergency Engine Stop' button. The engine cannot be re-started until the button is physically reset. Meaning a trip for the driver, out of their cab and to the rear of the bus. You have your revenge, no one is hurt. Perfect![/p][/quote]Not true - I am a bus driver ..... polheg
  • Score: 11

9:43pm Tue 1 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

stevo!! wrote:
lizzy1 wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
lizzy1 wrote:
My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!!
No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him.

Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving.

We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted.

People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.
There is no way you are right. Ok, so let's say that the bus driver drove in a way which caused the cyclist to react how he did, that my dear Stevo would be road rage, would it not?? You have yourself within your comment stated that it's fine to attack someone if the situation warrants it. No situation warrants assault on another, regardless of provocation or reason.
We don't actually know who was to blame for the incident.

All we have is an allegation from a bus driver that a cyclist attacked him and the bus. I am right about that, yes?

No-one has actually stated who was to blame for the alleged incident, so I'm right about that, too.

Bus drivers sometimes behave in a manner which endangers fellow road-users, especially vulnerable cyclists, so I'm right about that, too.

Bus drivers sometimes fully deserve retribution from those they endanger, so I'm right about that, as well.
You haven't got a clue you mug - if anyone deserves a good hiding it is you!
You are clearly a f****** moron as so many of your brain-dead posts prove!!
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lizzy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lizzy1[/bold] wrote: My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!![/p][/quote]No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him. Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving. We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted. People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.[/p][/quote]There is no way you are right. Ok, so let's say that the bus driver drove in a way which caused the cyclist to react how he did, that my dear Stevo would be road rage, would it not?? You have yourself within your comment stated that it's fine to attack someone if the situation warrants it. No situation warrants assault on another, regardless of provocation or reason.[/p][/quote]We don't actually know who was to blame for the incident. All we have is an allegation from a bus driver that a cyclist attacked him and the bus. I am right about that, yes? No-one has actually stated who was to blame for the alleged incident, so I'm right about that, too. Bus drivers sometimes behave in a manner which endangers fellow road-users, especially vulnerable cyclists, so I'm right about that, too. Bus drivers sometimes fully deserve retribution from those they endanger, so I'm right about that, as well.[/p][/quote]You haven't got a clue you mug - if anyone deserves a good hiding it is you! You are clearly a f****** moron as so many of your brain-dead posts prove!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -3

9:47pm Tue 1 Jul 14

davyboy says...

Regardless of the reasons for this, no one should be attacked whilst doing their job. And also the count of criminal damage! You wouldn't walk into a shop, smash a window and abuse the staff, so why should bus drivers have to put up with it? It is a difficult enough job without having to take any abuse whilst doing it. If any member of the public spent a day with a driver, as saw what they had to do, and the poor driving and parking they had to negotiate every day, along with the general stupidity of the public at large, then they might have their eyes opened a little.
Regardless of the reasons for this, no one should be attacked whilst doing their job. And also the count of criminal damage! You wouldn't walk into a shop, smash a window and abuse the staff, so why should bus drivers have to put up with it? It is a difficult enough job without having to take any abuse whilst doing it. If any member of the public spent a day with a driver, as saw what they had to do, and the poor driving and parking they had to negotiate every day, along with the general stupidity of the public at large, then they might have their eyes opened a little. davyboy
  • Score: 25

10:13pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

Have seen some crap driving and lack of manners by Brighton's bus drivers eg where there are parked cars on the bus's side of a road but none on the other, with plenty of places for the bus to pull in and wait ... for the bus driver to plough on towards oncoming traffic until it all comes to standstill in a jam in a slow motion game of chicken. A couple of times, arrogant bus drivers then got their tabloids out for a read. Another favourite is to pull out from bus stops abruptly when clearly there isn't a gap ... another childish game of chicken. Don't think they did those manoeuvres during the passenger vehicle driving tests.

Ask those other doyens of driving manners, taxi drivers, what they think of bus drivers. I was a Brighton cab last week, a bus driver did something crap, and the cabbie said they're all w***ers.
Have seen some crap driving and lack of manners by Brighton's bus drivers eg where there are parked cars on the bus's side of a road but none on the other, with plenty of places for the bus to pull in and wait ... for the bus driver to plough on towards oncoming traffic until it all comes to standstill in a jam in a slow motion game of chicken. A couple of times, arrogant bus drivers then got their tabloids out for a read. Another favourite is to pull out from bus stops abruptly when clearly there isn't a gap ... another childish game of chicken. Don't think they did those manoeuvres during the passenger vehicle driving tests. Ask those other doyens of driving manners, taxi drivers, what they think of bus drivers. I was a Brighton cab last week, a bus driver did something crap, and the cabbie said they're all w***ers. Withdean-er
  • Score: -3

11:24pm Tue 1 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

" no one should be attacked whilst doing their job. "

Who says the driver was doing his job?

They have a duty of care towards other road users.....if they fail in that, then they are subject to the law just as the rest of us are.
" no one should be attacked whilst doing their job. " Who says the driver was doing his job? They have a duty of care towards other road users.....if they fail in that, then they are subject to the law just as the rest of us are. stevo!!
  • Score: -9

11:40pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Bill in Hanover says...

FC wrote:
My god, Argus.

WHERE on New Church Road? Do you know how long it is?
WHAT bus number? There's a lot that go down there.

If you want our help, you're going to have to help us with proper information first.
If you need to know where it happened and the number of the bus you obviously where nowhere near the area so why do you want the small details.
[quote][p][bold]FC[/bold] wrote: My god, Argus. WHERE on New Church Road? Do you know how long it is? WHAT bus number? There's a lot that go down there. If you want our help, you're going to have to help us with proper information first.[/p][/quote]If you need to know where it happened and the number of the bus you obviously where nowhere near the area so why do you want the small details. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 5

7:59am Wed 2 Jul 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

The guy does not seem to be riding a racing style bike, it looks like a straight cross bar.
What is interesting is that he is wearing fingerless gloves. Fairly unusual for a town cyclist. I commute and only wear full fingered gloves as if you come off, fingerless are pointless.
He also appears to be wearing a work shirt. I bet he can be picked up on CCTV days earlier on his regular cycle route to work. It's a main east to west route across town for riders. The bag probably has a change of work clothes in it. He should be easy to pick up.
The guy does not seem to be riding a racing style bike, it looks like a straight cross bar. What is interesting is that he is wearing fingerless gloves. Fairly unusual for a town cyclist. I commute and only wear full fingered gloves as if you come off, fingerless are pointless. He also appears to be wearing a work shirt. I bet he can be picked up on CCTV days earlier on his regular cycle route to work. It's a main east to west route across town for riders. The bag probably has a change of work clothes in it. He should be easy to pick up. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 17

8:04am Wed 2 Jul 14

spa301 says...

Stevo!! go and get a job and stop wasting your time writing crap on every subject you can. You're a bore.
Stevo!! go and get a job and stop wasting your time writing crap on every subject you can. You're a bore. spa301
  • Score: 11

8:06am Wed 2 Jul 14

polly-mae says...

My father was on the Number 1 bus when this incident happened.
He was sat upstairs on the front seat above the driver and watched the whole thing.
He said that the cyclist approached the bus with clear intent and smashed the drivers window repeatedly with what looked like a metal D lock used for bikes. The whole window was shattered .My father is a very kind and caring retired vicar.He went downstairs and offered the clearly shaken driver a bottle of water as he had glass in his mouth,he also had shards of glass in his face.He also helped a young man who was a carer to a severely disabled passenger,I don't know his medical condition but apparently he was very shaken up.
The cyclist sped off without looking back.
My Dad probably is the best witness due to where he was sitting and happened to be looking in the direction of the assailant. Yet nobody took his details which I find incredulous,if the police are stating they are treating this as a crime why didn't they take my Fathers statement or contact details.
I started reading the comments left on this page and had to stop reading after just a few paragraphs,I will not lower myself to even repeat what was written,nasty,uneduc
ated,rude Internet trolls. The innocent bus driver was a victim of an unprovoked potentially fatal attack,how dare people use this as an opportunity to vent their narrow minded opinions on Brightons bus service.
The driver was injured physically and undoubtedly mentally ,I hope he doesn't read the comments left by the delightful stevo!!
My father was on the Number 1 bus when this incident happened. He was sat upstairs on the front seat above the driver and watched the whole thing. He said that the cyclist approached the bus with clear intent and smashed the drivers window repeatedly with what looked like a metal D lock used for bikes. The whole window was shattered .My father is a very kind and caring retired vicar.He went downstairs and offered the clearly shaken driver a bottle of water as he had glass in his mouth,he also had shards of glass in his face.He also helped a young man who was a carer to a severely disabled passenger,I don't know his medical condition but apparently he was very shaken up. The cyclist sped off without looking back. My Dad probably is the best witness due to where he was sitting and happened to be looking in the direction of the assailant. Yet nobody took his details which I find incredulous,if the police are stating they are treating this as a crime why didn't they take my Fathers statement or contact details. I started reading the comments left on this page and had to stop reading after just a few paragraphs,I will not lower myself to even repeat what was written,nasty,uneduc ated,rude Internet trolls. The innocent bus driver was a victim of an unprovoked potentially fatal attack,how dare people use this as an opportunity to vent their narrow minded opinions on Brightons bus service. The driver was injured physically and undoubtedly mentally ,I hope he doesn't read the comments left by the delightful stevo!! polly-mae
  • Score: 46

8:22am Wed 2 Jul 14

hoveguyactually says...

jackthekipper wrote:
a bus pulled out on me while doing 50 along the ovingdean -brighton a259 and nearly caused a multi pile up and give me the finger as i went by and i wasnt even remonstrating with him!,what i mean to say is there are some over zealous bus drivers and there are two sides to each story,come to think of it i think the bus driver was a she !!
Last Sunday, at around 10.20 am, I was driving along Dyke Road, and signalled that I was about to overtake a bus heading for Devils Dyke, which had stopped at the bus stop outside BHASVIC. The bus driver totally ignored my signal and waited until I had start to overtake before pulling out, causing me to swerve and then stop in a panic, while an oncoming car also had to swerve to avoid crashing into me. Motorists behind that car had to stop, while the bus then drove ahead, with me driving behind it. It was a dangerous and frightening situation, which unfortunately happens fairly frequently, as some bus drivers, who badly need to be sent on a course, take the attitude that they have the right to ignore the Highway Code, and use the road as if they own it, regardless of the hazards that this behaviour causes.
[quote][p][bold]jackthekipper[/bold] wrote: a bus pulled out on me while doing 50 along the ovingdean -brighton a259 and nearly caused a multi pile up and give me the finger as i went by and i wasnt even remonstrating with him!,what i mean to say is there are some over zealous bus drivers and there are two sides to each story,come to think of it i think the bus driver was a she !![/p][/quote]Last Sunday, at around 10.20 am, I was driving along Dyke Road, and signalled that I was about to overtake a bus heading for Devils Dyke, which had stopped at the bus stop outside BHASVIC. The bus driver totally ignored my signal and waited until I had start to overtake before pulling out, causing me to swerve and then stop in a panic, while an oncoming car also had to swerve to avoid crashing into me. Motorists behind that car had to stop, while the bus then drove ahead, with me driving behind it. It was a dangerous and frightening situation, which unfortunately happens fairly frequently, as some bus drivers, who badly need to be sent on a course, take the attitude that they have the right to ignore the Highway Code, and use the road as if they own it, regardless of the hazards that this behaviour causes. hoveguyactually
  • Score: 8

8:42am Wed 2 Jul 14

Max Ripple says...

james4618 wrote:
I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.
Many cyClists also have a chip on their shoulder and think they own the roads as they "seem to exist just to annoy other people". As a pedestrian I can tell you that for certain. Their will probably be more to this story than meets the eye.
[quote][p][bold]james4618[/bold] wrote: I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.[/p][/quote]Many cyClists also have a chip on their shoulder and think they own the roads as they "seem to exist just to annoy other people". As a pedestrian I can tell you that for certain. Their will probably be more to this story than meets the eye. Max Ripple
  • Score: 10

8:44am Wed 2 Jul 14

spa301 says...

Polly-Mae
Thank you for the comment. Very informative and hard to believe the police didn't take your fathers statement.
Can you shed any light on what occurred prior to the cyclist's attack?
Polly-Mae Thank you for the comment. Very informative and hard to believe the police didn't take your fathers statement. Can you shed any light on what occurred prior to the cyclist's attack? spa301
  • Score: 9

8:48am Wed 2 Jul 14

PetertheGrate says...

james4618 wrote:
I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.
This is complete nonsense. Brighton bus drivers are remarkebly tolerant considering the way motorists park in Brighton's narrow streets and the way pedestrians ignore traffic lights and frequently walk into the road wihout looking, and as for cyclist!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]james4618[/bold] wrote: I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.[/p][/quote]This is complete nonsense. Brighton bus drivers are remarkebly tolerant considering the way motorists park in Brighton's narrow streets and the way pedestrians ignore traffic lights and frequently walk into the road wihout looking, and as for cyclist!!!!! PetertheGrate
  • Score: 10

9:00am Wed 2 Jul 14

Joshiman says...

"Brighton and Hove Buses managing director Martin Harris said: “We’re just very unhappy about it. " so you should be.So we should all be.There have already been fatalities.The sad death of a Portland Rd Shopkeeper caused by a mad cyclist was one death too many.We have dangerous car drivers/bus drivers and cyclists and stupid pedestrians crossing roads with headphones on.I havent any answers apart from imposing instant heavy fines whoever you are.
"Brighton and Hove Buses managing director Martin Harris said: “We’re just very unhappy about it. " so you should be.So we should all be.There have already been fatalities.The sad death of a Portland Rd Shopkeeper caused by a mad cyclist was one death too many.We have dangerous car drivers/bus drivers and cyclists and stupid pedestrians crossing roads with headphones on.I havent any answers apart from imposing instant heavy fines whoever you are. Joshiman
  • Score: 10

9:00am Wed 2 Jul 14

Time to move says...

It seems to me that the council in their fanaticism have allowed both buses and cyclists to believe that they can do whatever they like. Unfortunately buses and cycles are at different ends of the size spectrum and incidents are occurring - and in this case the cyclist seems to have decided on a pre-meditated revenge attack.
There is an element of cyclists that need to stop thinking that they are the chosen ones and become decent citizens. Brighton & Hove Council have created a monster. If the council are to promote cycling as the no.1 transport in the city, then they need to pay for the roads like everyone else, obey the road rules, use cycle lanes when available, have insurance, and be accountable for their actions. You can't have it both ways, and this incident illustrates that.
It seems to me that the council in their fanaticism have allowed both buses and cyclists to believe that they can do whatever they like. Unfortunately buses and cycles are at different ends of the size spectrum and incidents are occurring - and in this case the cyclist seems to have decided on a pre-meditated revenge attack. There is an element of cyclists that need to stop thinking that they are the chosen ones and become decent citizens. Brighton & Hove Council have created a monster. If the council are to promote cycling as the no.1 transport in the city, then they need to pay for the roads like everyone else, obey the road rules, use cycle lanes when available, have insurance, and be accountable for their actions. You can't have it both ways, and this incident illustrates that. Time to move
  • Score: 12

9:11am Wed 2 Jul 14

Andy R says...

Time to move wrote:
It seems to me that the council in their fanaticism have allowed both buses and cyclists to believe that they can do whatever they like. Unfortunately buses and cycles are at different ends of the size spectrum and incidents are occurring - and in this case the cyclist seems to have decided on a pre-meditated revenge attack.
There is an element of cyclists that need to stop thinking that they are the chosen ones and become decent citizens. Brighton & Hove Council have created a monster. If the council are to promote cycling as the no.1 transport in the city, then they need to pay for the roads like everyone else, obey the road rules, use cycle lanes when available, have insurance, and be accountable for their actions. You can't have it both ways, and this incident illustrates that.
Well yes of course - it just has to be the council's fault....somehow....
doesn't it?



Facepalm........
[quote][p][bold]Time to move[/bold] wrote: It seems to me that the council in their fanaticism have allowed both buses and cyclists to believe that they can do whatever they like. Unfortunately buses and cycles are at different ends of the size spectrum and incidents are occurring - and in this case the cyclist seems to have decided on a pre-meditated revenge attack. There is an element of cyclists that need to stop thinking that they are the chosen ones and become decent citizens. Brighton & Hove Council have created a monster. If the council are to promote cycling as the no.1 transport in the city, then they need to pay for the roads like everyone else, obey the road rules, use cycle lanes when available, have insurance, and be accountable for their actions. You can't have it both ways, and this incident illustrates that.[/p][/quote]Well yes of course - it just has to be the council's fault....somehow.... doesn't it? Facepalm........ Andy R
  • Score: -9

9:33am Wed 2 Jul 14

hubby says...

When did the people of Brighton and Hove become so intolerant of one another?
When did the people of Brighton and Hove become so intolerant of one another? hubby
  • Score: 8

9:36am Wed 2 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

He should be easy to trace...he's the spitting image of Peter Hitchens, who also rides a bicycle in London.
He should be easy to trace...he's the spitting image of Peter Hitchens, who also rides a bicycle in London. stevo!!
  • Score: -3

9:41am Wed 2 Jul 14

NickBrt says...

Looks like a 'certain' green councillor to me . . . .
Looks like a 'certain' green councillor to me . . . . NickBrt
  • Score: 0

10:22am Wed 2 Jul 14

Old Ladys Gin says...

hubby wrote:
When did the people of Brighton and Hove become so intolerant of one another?
Perhaps when lot of them moved down from London and bought their London ways with them?
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: When did the people of Brighton and Hove become so intolerant of one another?[/p][/quote]Perhaps when lot of them moved down from London and bought their London ways with them? Old Ladys Gin
  • Score: 12

10:44am Wed 2 Jul 14

menowhere says...

I would like to see the video footage of the 15-20 mins before. see if the driver nearly killed the cyclist leading up to the attack. rage is understandable when nearly being killed for the umpteenth time. although of course I am not suggesting such a thing has happened but without knowing why its hard to agree or disagree with actions like this.
I would like to see the video footage of the 15-20 mins before. see if the driver nearly killed the cyclist leading up to the attack. rage is understandable when nearly being killed for the umpteenth time. although of course I am not suggesting such a thing has happened but without knowing why its hard to agree or disagree with actions like this. menowhere
  • Score: 1

11:00am Wed 2 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

menowhere wrote:
I would like to see the video footage of the 15-20 mins before. see if the driver nearly killed the cyclist leading up to the attack. rage is understandable when nearly being killed for the umpteenth time. although of course I am not suggesting such a thing has happened but without knowing why its hard to agree or disagree with actions like this.
Stand by for accusations of blaming the driver from the ignoramuses on here.

Look how close the bus was to the cyclist....
[quote][p][bold]menowhere[/bold] wrote: I would like to see the video footage of the 15-20 mins before. see if the driver nearly killed the cyclist leading up to the attack. rage is understandable when nearly being killed for the umpteenth time. although of course I am not suggesting such a thing has happened but without knowing why its hard to agree or disagree with actions like this.[/p][/quote]Stand by for accusations of blaming the driver from the ignoramuses on here. Look how close the bus was to the cyclist.... stevo!!
  • Score: -4

11:13am Wed 2 Jul 14

hilaryfromhove says...

stevo!! wrote:
Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault?

It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver.

The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.
Yes, I agree with Stevo, there is a lot more to this than meets the eye. Not to condone in any way what the cyclist did, I wonder what had occurred immediately prior to this.

The vast majority of bus drivers give cyclists a wide berth and treat them with consideration, however, I have had my life endangered once or twice by a bus - the proper response is to take the number of the bus and complain.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault? It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver. The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.[/p][/quote]Yes, I agree with Stevo, there is a lot more to this than meets the eye. Not to condone in any way what the cyclist did, I wonder what had occurred immediately prior to this. The vast majority of bus drivers give cyclists a wide berth and treat them with consideration, however, I have had my life endangered once or twice by a bus - the proper response is to take the number of the bus and complain. hilaryfromhove
  • Score: 3

11:27am Wed 2 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

polly-mae wrote:
My father was on the Number 1 bus when this incident happened.
He was sat upstairs on the front seat above the driver and watched the whole thing.
He said that the cyclist approached the bus with clear intent and smashed the drivers window repeatedly with what looked like a metal D lock used for bikes. The whole window was shattered .My father is a very kind and caring retired vicar.He went downstairs and offered the clearly shaken driver a bottle of water as he had glass in his mouth,he also had shards of glass in his face.He also helped a young man who was a carer to a severely disabled passenger,I don't know his medical condition but apparently he was very shaken up.
The cyclist sped off without looking back.
My Dad probably is the best witness due to where he was sitting and happened to be looking in the direction of the assailant. Yet nobody took his details which I find incredulous,if the police are stating they are treating this as a crime why didn't they take my Fathers statement or contact details.
I started reading the comments left on this page and had to stop reading after just a few paragraphs,I will not lower myself to even repeat what was written,nasty,uneduc

ated,rude Internet trolls. The innocent bus driver was a victim of an unprovoked potentially fatal attack,how dare people use this as an opportunity to vent their narrow minded opinions on Brightons bus service.
The driver was injured physically and undoubtedly mentally ,I hope he doesn't read the comments left by the delightful stevo!!
Your Dad witnessed the attack, right?

He did NOT witness the incident which led to that attack, and it is THAT which some of us with intelligence are questioning.
[quote][p][bold]polly-mae[/bold] wrote: My father was on the Number 1 bus when this incident happened. He was sat upstairs on the front seat above the driver and watched the whole thing. He said that the cyclist approached the bus with clear intent and smashed the drivers window repeatedly with what looked like a metal D lock used for bikes. The whole window was shattered .My father is a very kind and caring retired vicar.He went downstairs and offered the clearly shaken driver a bottle of water as he had glass in his mouth,he also had shards of glass in his face.He also helped a young man who was a carer to a severely disabled passenger,I don't know his medical condition but apparently he was very shaken up. The cyclist sped off without looking back. My Dad probably is the best witness due to where he was sitting and happened to be looking in the direction of the assailant. Yet nobody took his details which I find incredulous,if the police are stating they are treating this as a crime why didn't they take my Fathers statement or contact details. I started reading the comments left on this page and had to stop reading after just a few paragraphs,I will not lower myself to even repeat what was written,nasty,uneduc ated,rude Internet trolls. The innocent bus driver was a victim of an unprovoked potentially fatal attack,how dare people use this as an opportunity to vent their narrow minded opinions on Brightons bus service. The driver was injured physically and undoubtedly mentally ,I hope he doesn't read the comments left by the delightful stevo!![/p][/quote]Your Dad witnessed the attack, right? He did NOT witness the incident which led to that attack, and it is THAT which some of us with intelligence are questioning. stevo!!
  • Score: -16

11:37am Wed 2 Jul 14

Nikski says...

stevo!! wrote:
polly-mae wrote:
My father was on the Number 1 bus when this incident happened.
He was sat upstairs on the front seat above the driver and watched the whole thing.
He said that the cyclist approached the bus with clear intent and smashed the drivers window repeatedly with what looked like a metal D lock used for bikes. The whole window was shattered .My father is a very kind and caring retired vicar.He went downstairs and offered the clearly shaken driver a bottle of water as he had glass in his mouth,he also had shards of glass in his face.He also helped a young man who was a carer to a severely disabled passenger,I don't know his medical condition but apparently he was very shaken up.
The cyclist sped off without looking back.
My Dad probably is the best witness due to where he was sitting and happened to be looking in the direction of the assailant. Yet nobody took his details which I find incredulous,if the police are stating they are treating this as a crime why didn't they take my Fathers statement or contact details.
I started reading the comments left on this page and had to stop reading after just a few paragraphs,I will not lower myself to even repeat what was written,nasty,uneduc


ated,rude Internet trolls. The innocent bus driver was a victim of an unprovoked potentially fatal attack,how dare people use this as an opportunity to vent their narrow minded opinions on Brightons bus service.
The driver was injured physically and undoubtedly mentally ,I hope he doesn't read the comments left by the delightful stevo!!
Your Dad witnessed the attack, right?

He did NOT witness the incident which led to that attack, and it is THAT which some of us with intelligence are questioning.
You don't appear to possess intelligence so I am questioning the validity of your comment above.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]polly-mae[/bold] wrote: My father was on the Number 1 bus when this incident happened. He was sat upstairs on the front seat above the driver and watched the whole thing. He said that the cyclist approached the bus with clear intent and smashed the drivers window repeatedly with what looked like a metal D lock used for bikes. The whole window was shattered .My father is a very kind and caring retired vicar.He went downstairs and offered the clearly shaken driver a bottle of water as he had glass in his mouth,he also had shards of glass in his face.He also helped a young man who was a carer to a severely disabled passenger,I don't know his medical condition but apparently he was very shaken up. The cyclist sped off without looking back. My Dad probably is the best witness due to where he was sitting and happened to be looking in the direction of the assailant. Yet nobody took his details which I find incredulous,if the police are stating they are treating this as a crime why didn't they take my Fathers statement or contact details. I started reading the comments left on this page and had to stop reading after just a few paragraphs,I will not lower myself to even repeat what was written,nasty,uneduc ated,rude Internet trolls. The innocent bus driver was a victim of an unprovoked potentially fatal attack,how dare people use this as an opportunity to vent their narrow minded opinions on Brightons bus service. The driver was injured physically and undoubtedly mentally ,I hope he doesn't read the comments left by the delightful stevo!![/p][/quote]Your Dad witnessed the attack, right? He did NOT witness the incident which led to that attack, and it is THAT which some of us with intelligence are questioning.[/p][/quote]You don't appear to possess intelligence so I am questioning the validity of your comment above. Nikski
  • Score: 5

11:41am Wed 2 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Nikski wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
polly-mae wrote:
My father was on the Number 1 bus when this incident happened.
He was sat upstairs on the front seat above the driver and watched the whole thing.
He said that the cyclist approached the bus with clear intent and smashed the drivers window repeatedly with what looked like a metal D lock used for bikes. The whole window was shattered .My father is a very kind and caring retired vicar.He went downstairs and offered the clearly shaken driver a bottle of water as he had glass in his mouth,he also had shards of glass in his face.He also helped a young man who was a carer to a severely disabled passenger,I don't know his medical condition but apparently he was very shaken up.
The cyclist sped off without looking back.
My Dad probably is the best witness due to where he was sitting and happened to be looking in the direction of the assailant. Yet nobody took his details which I find incredulous,if the police are stating they are treating this as a crime why didn't they take my Fathers statement or contact details.
I started reading the comments left on this page and had to stop reading after just a few paragraphs,I will not lower myself to even repeat what was written,nasty,uneduc



ated,rude Internet trolls. The innocent bus driver was a victim of an unprovoked potentially fatal attack,how dare people use this as an opportunity to vent their narrow minded opinions on Brightons bus service.
The driver was injured physically and undoubtedly mentally ,I hope he doesn't read the comments left by the delightful stevo!!
Your Dad witnessed the attack, right?

He did NOT witness the incident which led to that attack, and it is THAT which some of us with intelligence are questioning.
You don't appear to possess intelligence so I am questioning the validity of your comment above.
No need to question its validity.....just read what her Dad claimed that he saw.

If you have any issues with his story, state clearly what they are and she might be able to address them.
[quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]polly-mae[/bold] wrote: My father was on the Number 1 bus when this incident happened. He was sat upstairs on the front seat above the driver and watched the whole thing. He said that the cyclist approached the bus with clear intent and smashed the drivers window repeatedly with what looked like a metal D lock used for bikes. The whole window was shattered .My father is a very kind and caring retired vicar.He went downstairs and offered the clearly shaken driver a bottle of water as he had glass in his mouth,he also had shards of glass in his face.He also helped a young man who was a carer to a severely disabled passenger,I don't know his medical condition but apparently he was very shaken up. The cyclist sped off without looking back. My Dad probably is the best witness due to where he was sitting and happened to be looking in the direction of the assailant. Yet nobody took his details which I find incredulous,if the police are stating they are treating this as a crime why didn't they take my Fathers statement or contact details. I started reading the comments left on this page and had to stop reading after just a few paragraphs,I will not lower myself to even repeat what was written,nasty,uneduc ated,rude Internet trolls. The innocent bus driver was a victim of an unprovoked potentially fatal attack,how dare people use this as an opportunity to vent their narrow minded opinions on Brightons bus service. The driver was injured physically and undoubtedly mentally ,I hope he doesn't read the comments left by the delightful stevo!![/p][/quote]Your Dad witnessed the attack, right? He did NOT witness the incident which led to that attack, and it is THAT which some of us with intelligence are questioning.[/p][/quote]You don't appear to possess intelligence so I am questioning the validity of your comment above.[/p][/quote]No need to question its validity.....just read what her Dad claimed that he saw. If you have any issues with his story, state clearly what they are and she might be able to address them. stevo!!
  • Score: -5

11:47am Wed 2 Jul 14

Nikski says...

I was questioning the part in which you refer to yourself as a person with intelligence, because clearly you are not. If you were your comments might have some validity.
I was questioning the part in which you refer to yourself as a person with intelligence, because clearly you are not. If you were your comments might have some validity. Nikski
  • Score: 9

11:50am Wed 2 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

spa301 wrote:
Polly-Mae
Thank you for the comment. Very informative and hard to believe the police didn't take your fathers statement.
Can you shed any light on what occurred prior to the cyclist's attack?
There was no need for the police to have taken a statement.

The facts of the assault don't appear to be in doubt, plus there will have been passengers on the lower deck on the right of the bus who will have had a better view of it.

It is clear that no-one has yet come forward to describe the entire incident. It certainly isn't clear what led to that bus being stationary for the cyclist to ride to the driver's side, remove his d-lock and smash the window. Had the bus pulled in at a stop? If so, did it place that cyclist (seen at the immediate rear of the bus in the left-hand image) in any danger? Clearly the cyclist was upset about something.
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: Polly-Mae Thank you for the comment. Very informative and hard to believe the police didn't take your fathers statement. Can you shed any light on what occurred prior to the cyclist's attack?[/p][/quote]There was no need for the police to have taken a statement. The facts of the assault don't appear to be in doubt, plus there will have been passengers on the lower deck on the right of the bus who will have had a better view of it. It is clear that no-one has yet come forward to describe the entire incident. It certainly isn't clear what led to that bus being stationary for the cyclist to ride to the driver's side, remove his d-lock and smash the window. Had the bus pulled in at a stop? If so, did it place that cyclist (seen at the immediate rear of the bus in the left-hand image) in any danger? Clearly the cyclist was upset about something. stevo!!
  • Score: -10

11:52am Wed 2 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Nikski wrote:
I was questioning the part in which you refer to yourself as a person with intelligence, because clearly you are not. If you were your comments might have some validity.
If you have the intelligence to question any of my comments, feel free to do so.

Merely suggesting that I'm thick has no meaning unless you can prove that I am.

I look forward to discussing your questions.
[quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: I was questioning the part in which you refer to yourself as a person with intelligence, because clearly you are not. If you were your comments might have some validity.[/p][/quote]If you have the intelligence to question any of my comments, feel free to do so. Merely suggesting that I'm thick has no meaning unless you can prove that I am. I look forward to discussing your questions. stevo!!
  • Score: -13

12:15pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Nikski says...

Your comments are all the proof that is needed. No further questions required.
Your comments are all the proof that is needed. No further questions required. Nikski
  • Score: 4

12:19pm Wed 2 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Nikski wrote:
Your comments are all the proof that is needed. No further questions required.
So you admit that you don't have the intelligence to question my comments.

Thanks for that!
[quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: Your comments are all the proof that is needed. No further questions required.[/p][/quote]So you admit that you don't have the intelligence to question my comments. Thanks for that! stevo!!
  • Score: -15

12:23pm Wed 2 Jul 14

martyt says...

mthew wrote:
Now mr Harris suddenly cares..well I supposed he has to to save bad publicity....supervi

sors can be sent to incidents involving drunk people that threaten to bottle them and the employee gets injured ....and Mr Harris didn't give a toss or worry about prosecuting the pepetrator then....If bus drivers had the support of properly trained supervisors or indeed the special constable that's paid over 18 grand a year for that purpose maybe the poor driver wouldn't have got attacked.....its a shame that the drivers are out there alone...how many more employees have to be assaulted before the bus company do something...
axe to grind
[quote][p][bold]mthew[/bold] wrote: Now mr Harris suddenly cares..well I supposed he has to to save bad publicity....supervi sors can be sent to incidents involving drunk people that threaten to bottle them and the employee gets injured ....and Mr Harris didn't give a toss or worry about prosecuting the pepetrator then....If bus drivers had the support of properly trained supervisors or indeed the special constable that's paid over 18 grand a year for that purpose maybe the poor driver wouldn't have got attacked.....its a shame that the drivers are out there alone...how many more employees have to be assaulted before the bus company do something...[/p][/quote]axe to grind martyt
  • Score: 0

12:34pm Wed 2 Jul 14

martyt says...

hilaryfromhove wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault?

It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver.

The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.
Yes, I agree with Stevo, there is a lot more to this than meets the eye. Not to condone in any way what the cyclist did, I wonder what had occurred immediately prior to this.

The vast majority of bus drivers give cyclists a wide berth and treat them with consideration, however, I have had my life endangered once or twice by a bus - the proper response is to take the number of the bus and complain.
the vast number of cyclist that use brighton and hove roads think that the rules of the road don t apply to them ,most if not all ignore road traffic lights ,the few that do, take to the footpath when the light turns red against them
[quote][p][bold]hilaryfromhove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault? It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver. The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.[/p][/quote]Yes, I agree with Stevo, there is a lot more to this than meets the eye. Not to condone in any way what the cyclist did, I wonder what had occurred immediately prior to this. The vast majority of bus drivers give cyclists a wide berth and treat them with consideration, however, I have had my life endangered once or twice by a bus - the proper response is to take the number of the bus and complain.[/p][/quote]the vast number of cyclist that use brighton and hove roads think that the rules of the road don t apply to them ,most if not all ignore road traffic lights ,the few that do, take to the footpath when the light turns red against them martyt
  • Score: 10

12:39pm Wed 2 Jul 14

martyt says...

menowhere wrote:
I would like to see the video footage of the 15-20 mins before. see if the driver nearly killed the cyclist leading up to the attack. rage is understandable when nearly being killed for the umpteenth time. although of course I am not suggesting such a thing has happened but without knowing why its hard to agree or disagree with actions like this.
15 0r 20 mins before the attack happened the bus would have been around north street ,are you saying the cyclist gave chase after a near miss around north street ?
[quote][p][bold]menowhere[/bold] wrote: I would like to see the video footage of the 15-20 mins before. see if the driver nearly killed the cyclist leading up to the attack. rage is understandable when nearly being killed for the umpteenth time. although of course I am not suggesting such a thing has happened but without knowing why its hard to agree or disagree with actions like this.[/p][/quote]15 0r 20 mins before the attack happened the bus would have been around north street ,are you saying the cyclist gave chase after a near miss around north street ? martyt
  • Score: 7

1:10pm Wed 2 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

martyt wrote:
menowhere wrote:
I would like to see the video footage of the 15-20 mins before. see if the driver nearly killed the cyclist leading up to the attack. rage is understandable when nearly being killed for the umpteenth time. although of course I am not suggesting such a thing has happened but without knowing why its hard to agree or disagree with actions like this.
15 0r 20 mins before the attack happened the bus would have been around north street ,are you saying the cyclist gave chase after a near miss around north street ?
Let's face it, such a period would enable the police to examine the entire incident.

After all, the image on the left isn't taken on New Church Road. Those double-yellow lines are next to a wall with a rail upon it. The southern side of New Church Road has a continuous pavement where such lines exist.

How do I know it's the southern side? The sun is clearly coming from the cyclist's left and it occurred at 1pm.
[quote][p][bold]martyt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]menowhere[/bold] wrote: I would like to see the video footage of the 15-20 mins before. see if the driver nearly killed the cyclist leading up to the attack. rage is understandable when nearly being killed for the umpteenth time. although of course I am not suggesting such a thing has happened but without knowing why its hard to agree or disagree with actions like this.[/p][/quote]15 0r 20 mins before the attack happened the bus would have been around north street ,are you saying the cyclist gave chase after a near miss around north street ?[/p][/quote]Let's face it, such a period would enable the police to examine the entire incident. After all, the image on the left isn't taken on New Church Road. Those double-yellow lines are next to a wall with a rail upon it. The southern side of New Church Road has a continuous pavement where such lines exist. How do I know it's the southern side? The sun is clearly coming from the cyclist's left and it occurred at 1pm. stevo!!
  • Score: -6

1:14pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Brightonian56 says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
lizzy1 wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
lizzy1 wrote:
My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!!
No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him.

Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving.

We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted.

People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.
There is no way you are right. Ok, so let's say that the bus driver drove in a way which caused the cyclist to react how he did, that my dear Stevo would be road rage, would it not?? You have yourself within your comment stated that it's fine to attack someone if the situation warrants it. No situation warrants assault on another, regardless of provocation or reason.
We don't actually know who was to blame for the incident.

All we have is an allegation from a bus driver that a cyclist attacked him and the bus. I am right about that, yes?

No-one has actually stated who was to blame for the alleged incident, so I'm right about that, too.

Bus drivers sometimes behave in a manner which endangers fellow road-users, especially vulnerable cyclists, so I'm right about that, too.

Bus drivers sometimes fully deserve retribution from those they endanger, so I'm right about that, as well.
You haven't got a clue you mug - if anyone deserves a good hiding it is you!
You are clearly a f****** moron as so many of your brain-dead posts prove!!
Bluenose you really are an objectionable little t*55*r
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lizzy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lizzy1[/bold] wrote: My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!![/p][/quote]No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him. Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving. We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted. People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.[/p][/quote]There is no way you are right. Ok, so let's say that the bus driver drove in a way which caused the cyclist to react how he did, that my dear Stevo would be road rage, would it not?? You have yourself within your comment stated that it's fine to attack someone if the situation warrants it. No situation warrants assault on another, regardless of provocation or reason.[/p][/quote]We don't actually know who was to blame for the incident. All we have is an allegation from a bus driver that a cyclist attacked him and the bus. I am right about that, yes? No-one has actually stated who was to blame for the alleged incident, so I'm right about that, too. Bus drivers sometimes behave in a manner which endangers fellow road-users, especially vulnerable cyclists, so I'm right about that, too. Bus drivers sometimes fully deserve retribution from those they endanger, so I'm right about that, as well.[/p][/quote]You haven't got a clue you mug - if anyone deserves a good hiding it is you! You are clearly a f****** moron as so many of your brain-dead posts prove!![/p][/quote]Bluenose you really are an objectionable little t*55*r Brightonian56
  • Score: 3

1:16pm Wed 2 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

"the vast number of cyclist that use brighton and hove roads think that the rules of the road don t apply to them ,most if not all ignore road traffic lights ,the few that do, take to the footpath when the light turns red against them"

If the cyclist in the report isn't one of them, then your post has no relevance. It is merely a rant at certain cyclists.
"the vast number of cyclist that use brighton and hove roads think that the rules of the road don t apply to them ,most if not all ignore road traffic lights ,the few that do, take to the footpath when the light turns red against them" If the cyclist in the report isn't one of them, then your post has no relevance. It is merely a rant at certain cyclists. stevo!!
  • Score: -7

1:58pm Wed 2 Jul 14

peteb21 says...

IMO bus drivers are the most dangerous people on the roads. Woe betide if you slow them down by a millionth of a second, you will feel all the rage of the self righteous driver as they try and plough you down / force you off the road with their multi ton weapon.
IMO bus drivers are the most dangerous people on the roads. Woe betide if you slow them down by a millionth of a second, you will feel all the rage of the self righteous driver as they try and plough you down / force you off the road with their multi ton weapon. peteb21
  • Score: -8

2:01pm Wed 2 Jul 14

alan111 says...

james4618 wrote:
I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.
traffic bulling never herd of it. every firm have inconsiderate people working for them. Brighton bus drivers have many many very good considerate drivers. would you drive a twenty ton bus through the town centre. people running out in front of you cars always trying to get in front of you and then there's the passengers why are you late. now lets see. happy walking James its the bus for me
[quote][p][bold]james4618[/bold] wrote: I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.[/p][/quote]traffic bulling never herd of it. every firm have inconsiderate people working for them. Brighton bus drivers have many many very good considerate drivers. would you drive a twenty ton bus through the town centre. people running out in front of you cars always trying to get in front of you and then there's the passengers why are you late. now lets see. happy walking James its the bus for me alan111
  • Score: 9

2:11pm Wed 2 Jul 14

peteb21 says...

alan111 wrote:
james4618 wrote:
I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.
traffic bulling never herd of it. every firm have inconsiderate people working for them. Brighton bus drivers have many many very good considerate drivers. would you drive a twenty ton bus through the town centre. people running out in front of you cars always trying to get in front of you and then there's the passengers why are you late. now lets see. happy walking James its the bus for me
Bus drivers always drive at 30 mph, and whilst there are goons who just walk into the road to cross without looking properly, don't expect the bus driver to slow down, at all. Instead they will honk their horn and miss you by millimetres at most.

In fact the number of 'incidents' involving buses and pedestrians must be significantly above the average for 'incident' per mile of road travelled than for any other vehicle.
[quote][p][bold]alan111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james4618[/bold] wrote: I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.[/p][/quote]traffic bulling never herd of it. every firm have inconsiderate people working for them. Brighton bus drivers have many many very good considerate drivers. would you drive a twenty ton bus through the town centre. people running out in front of you cars always trying to get in front of you and then there's the passengers why are you late. now lets see. happy walking James its the bus for me[/p][/quote]Bus drivers always drive at 30 mph, and whilst there are goons who just walk into the road to cross without looking properly, don't expect the bus driver to slow down, at all. Instead they will honk their horn and miss you by millimetres at most. In fact the number of 'incidents' involving buses and pedestrians must be significantly above the average for 'incident' per mile of road travelled than for any other vehicle. peteb21
  • Score: -1

2:20pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Bsxking1 says...

Let's be honest we all know he wasn't just cycling along the road and think I'm gonna smash the next bus drivers window i see, the driver has obviously done something to cause this cyclist that much anger he felt the need to do something back
Let's be honest we all know he wasn't just cycling along the road and think I'm gonna smash the next bus drivers window i see, the driver has obviously done something to cause this cyclist that much anger he felt the need to do something back Bsxking1
  • Score: 1

2:37pm Wed 2 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

Brightonian56 wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
lizzy1 wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
lizzy1 wrote:
My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!!
No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him.

Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving.

We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted.

People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.
There is no way you are right. Ok, so let's say that the bus driver drove in a way which caused the cyclist to react how he did, that my dear Stevo would be road rage, would it not?? You have yourself within your comment stated that it's fine to attack someone if the situation warrants it. No situation warrants assault on another, regardless of provocation or reason.
We don't actually know who was to blame for the incident.

All we have is an allegation from a bus driver that a cyclist attacked him and the bus. I am right about that, yes?

No-one has actually stated who was to blame for the alleged incident, so I'm right about that, too.

Bus drivers sometimes behave in a manner which endangers fellow road-users, especially vulnerable cyclists, so I'm right about that, too.

Bus drivers sometimes fully deserve retribution from those they endanger, so I'm right about that, as well.
You haven't got a clue you mug - if anyone deserves a good hiding it is you!
You are clearly a f****** moron as so many of your brain-dead posts prove!!
Bluenose you really are an objectionable little t*55*r
Love you too x
[quote][p][bold]Brightonian56[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lizzy1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lizzy1[/bold] wrote: My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!![/p][/quote]No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him. Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving. We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted. People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.[/p][/quote]There is no way you are right. Ok, so let's say that the bus driver drove in a way which caused the cyclist to react how he did, that my dear Stevo would be road rage, would it not?? You have yourself within your comment stated that it's fine to attack someone if the situation warrants it. No situation warrants assault on another, regardless of provocation or reason.[/p][/quote]We don't actually know who was to blame for the incident. All we have is an allegation from a bus driver that a cyclist attacked him and the bus. I am right about that, yes? No-one has actually stated who was to blame for the alleged incident, so I'm right about that, too. Bus drivers sometimes behave in a manner which endangers fellow road-users, especially vulnerable cyclists, so I'm right about that, too. Bus drivers sometimes fully deserve retribution from those they endanger, so I'm right about that, as well.[/p][/quote]You haven't got a clue you mug - if anyone deserves a good hiding it is you! You are clearly a f****** moron as so many of your brain-dead posts prove!![/p][/quote]Bluenose you really are an objectionable little t*55*r[/p][/quote]Love you too x brighton bluenose
  • Score: -3

3:11pm Wed 2 Jul 14

truescouser says...

monkeymoo wrote:
No need for violence against bus drivers.

If they happen to drive like an idiot......
......Just roll up behind them at the next stop / traffic lights, and press the 'Emergency Engine Stop' button.
The engine cannot be re-started until the button is physically reset. Meaning a trip for the driver, out of their cab and to the rear of the bus.

You have your revenge, no one is hurt.
Perfect!
now that is brilliant ! as a cyclist I have had good cause to remonstrate with these buffoons who pass for drivers, and actually think they own the whole of the road.
not saying this driver was at fault (I wasn't there) but one does wonder what caused the cyclist to react in such an aggressive manner.
I mean - was this guy cycling along and, out of the blue, decided to attack the bus driver ? seems highly unlikely to me.
still very naughty of the cyclist though - buses have the right to barge anyone off the road; or it seems that way,sometimes.
[quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: No need for violence against bus drivers. If they happen to drive like an idiot...... ......Just roll up behind them at the next stop / traffic lights, and press the 'Emergency Engine Stop' button. The engine cannot be re-started until the button is physically reset. Meaning a trip for the driver, out of their cab and to the rear of the bus. You have your revenge, no one is hurt. Perfect![/p][/quote]now that is brilliant ! as a cyclist I have had good cause to remonstrate with these buffoons who pass for drivers, and actually think they own the whole of the road. not saying this driver was at fault (I wasn't there) but one does wonder what caused the cyclist to react in such an aggressive manner. I mean - was this guy cycling along and, out of the blue, decided to attack the bus driver ? seems highly unlikely to me. still very naughty of the cyclist though - buses have the right to barge anyone off the road; or it seems that way,sometimes. truescouser
  • Score: -7

3:13pm Wed 2 Jul 14

MICKY389 says...

No excuse for this vicious idiot, I know cyclists seem to think they are above the law especially in road traffic matters, but he needs to be caught and punished. Bus drivers may not be perfect but I don't see many driving on pavements,nearly mowing down pedestrians by ignoring crossings and bawling and shouting at anything or anyone who has the temerity to get in their way.
No excuse for this vicious idiot, I know cyclists seem to think they are above the law especially in road traffic matters, but he needs to be caught and punished. Bus drivers may not be perfect but I don't see many driving on pavements,nearly mowing down pedestrians by ignoring crossings and bawling and shouting at anything or anyone who has the temerity to get in their way. MICKY389
  • Score: 15

3:16pm Wed 2 Jul 14

ThinkBrighton says...

stevo!! wrote:
Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault?

It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver.

The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.
I know 95% of drivers are pushed to the limits by the appalling driving executed by Brighton & Hove drivers, but this fellow was obviously pushed beyond that limit.
It's about time the bus company told their drivers not to act as if thy are the only vehicles on the road
I await the usual excusses, threats and diatribe, but they all forget that if a job is worth doing it's worth doing properly and lawfully,
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault? It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver. The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.[/p][/quote]I know 95% of drivers are pushed to the limits by the appalling driving executed by Brighton & Hove drivers, but this fellow was obviously pushed beyond that limit. It's about time the bus company told their drivers not to act as if thy are the only vehicles on the road I await the usual excusses, threats and diatribe, but they all forget that if a job is worth doing it's worth doing properly and lawfully, ThinkBrighton
  • Score: -6

3:36pm Wed 2 Jul 14

spa301 says...

ThinkBrighton wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault?

It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver.

The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.
I know 95% of drivers are pushed to the limits by the appalling driving executed by Brighton & Hove drivers, but this fellow was obviously pushed beyond that limit.
It's about time the bus company told their drivers not to act as if thy are the only vehicles on the road
I await the usual excusses, threats and diatribe, but they all forget that if a job is worth doing it's worth doing properly and lawfully,
Not sure where you get your statistics from but I guess I must be in the 5% that have never been pushed to my limits (whatever they may be) by bus drivers.
Taxi drivers...now that's a different story and survey I guess? What are your statistics for that one?
[quote][p][bold]ThinkBrighton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: Did the driver explain his own actions prior to the assault? It takes a lot to drive someone to have an argument with a bus. Most of us just ride along after a good swear at the driver. The driver seems to be milking this, as do the bus company.[/p][/quote]I know 95% of drivers are pushed to the limits by the appalling driving executed by Brighton & Hove drivers, but this fellow was obviously pushed beyond that limit. It's about time the bus company told their drivers not to act as if thy are the only vehicles on the road I await the usual excusses, threats and diatribe, but they all forget that if a job is worth doing it's worth doing properly and lawfully,[/p][/quote]Not sure where you get your statistics from but I guess I must be in the 5% that have never been pushed to my limits (whatever they may be) by bus drivers. Taxi drivers...now that's a different story and survey I guess? What are your statistics for that one? spa301
  • Score: 5

4:02pm Wed 2 Jul 14

her professional says...

Time to move wrote:
It seems to me that the council in their fanaticism have allowed both buses and cyclists to believe that they can do whatever they like. Unfortunately buses and cycles are at different ends of the size spectrum and incidents are occurring - and in this case the cyclist seems to have decided on a pre-meditated revenge attack.
There is an element of cyclists that need to stop thinking that they are the chosen ones and become decent citizens. Brighton & Hove Council have created a monster. If the council are to promote cycling as the no.1 transport in the city, then they need to pay for the roads like everyone else, obey the road rules, use cycle lanes when available, have insurance, and be accountable for their actions. You can't have it both ways, and this incident illustrates that.
The clue's in your name, bye.
[quote][p][bold]Time to move[/bold] wrote: It seems to me that the council in their fanaticism have allowed both buses and cyclists to believe that they can do whatever they like. Unfortunately buses and cycles are at different ends of the size spectrum and incidents are occurring - and in this case the cyclist seems to have decided on a pre-meditated revenge attack. There is an element of cyclists that need to stop thinking that they are the chosen ones and become decent citizens. Brighton & Hove Council have created a monster. If the council are to promote cycling as the no.1 transport in the city, then they need to pay for the roads like everyone else, obey the road rules, use cycle lanes when available, have insurance, and be accountable for their actions. You can't have it both ways, and this incident illustrates that.[/p][/quote]The clue's in your name, bye. her professional
  • Score: -4

4:33pm Wed 2 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

MICKY389 wrote:
No excuse for this vicious idiot, I know cyclists seem to think they are above the law especially in road traffic matters, but he needs to be caught and punished. Bus drivers may not be perfect but I don't see many driving on pavements,nearly mowing down pedestrians by ignoring crossings and bawling and shouting at anything or anyone who has the temerity to get in their way.
His response to whatever provocation he received was extreme. He was clearly uninjured and was able to ride away.

I do hope he's identified and questioned by the authorities, because only then will we learn what exactly happened to drive him to those extreme actions.
[quote][p][bold]MICKY389[/bold] wrote: No excuse for this vicious idiot, I know cyclists seem to think they are above the law especially in road traffic matters, but he needs to be caught and punished. Bus drivers may not be perfect but I don't see many driving on pavements,nearly mowing down pedestrians by ignoring crossings and bawling and shouting at anything or anyone who has the temerity to get in their way.[/p][/quote]His response to whatever provocation he received was extreme. He was clearly uninjured and was able to ride away. I do hope he's identified and questioned by the authorities, because only then will we learn what exactly happened to drive him to those extreme actions. stevo!!
  • Score: 1

4:39pm Wed 2 Jul 14

alan111 says...

peteb21 wrote:
alan111 wrote:
james4618 wrote:
I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.
traffic bulling never herd of it. every firm have inconsiderate people working for them. Brighton bus drivers have many many very good considerate drivers. would you drive a twenty ton bus through the town centre. people running out in front of you cars always trying to get in front of you and then there's the passengers why are you late. now lets see. happy walking James its the bus for me
Bus drivers always drive at 30 mph, and whilst there are goons who just walk into the road to cross without looking properly, don't expect the bus driver to slow down, at all. Instead they will honk their horn and miss you by millimetres at most.

In fact the number of 'incidents' involving buses and pedestrians must be significantly above the average for 'incident' per mile of road travelled than for any other vehicle.
average for 'incident' per mile of road travelled than for any other vehicle. have you got facts for this no don't guess please. they use there horn to let people know they are coming to prevent accidents . as for 30mph do you drive a car at 20 mph no. bus drivers have a company speed limit along western rd 15mph if you know they are doing more than 20 report them. it looks faster in a bus because of the size and noise they make.
[quote][p][bold]peteb21[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alan111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james4618[/bold] wrote: I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.[/p][/quote]traffic bulling never herd of it. every firm have inconsiderate people working for them. Brighton bus drivers have many many very good considerate drivers. would you drive a twenty ton bus through the town centre. people running out in front of you cars always trying to get in front of you and then there's the passengers why are you late. now lets see. happy walking James its the bus for me[/p][/quote]Bus drivers always drive at 30 mph, and whilst there are goons who just walk into the road to cross without looking properly, don't expect the bus driver to slow down, at all. Instead they will honk their horn and miss you by millimetres at most. In fact the number of 'incidents' involving buses and pedestrians must be significantly above the average for 'incident' per mile of road travelled than for any other vehicle.[/p][/quote]average for 'incident' per mile of road travelled than for any other vehicle. have you got facts for this no don't guess please. they use there horn to let people know they are coming to prevent accidents . as for 30mph do you drive a car at 20 mph no. bus drivers have a company speed limit along western rd 15mph if you know they are doing more than 20 report them. it looks faster in a bus because of the size and noise they make. alan111
  • Score: 10

7:05pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Wide Bertha says...

martyt wrote:
mthew wrote:
Now mr Harris suddenly cares..well I supposed he has to to save bad publicity....supervi


sors can be sent to incidents involving drunk people that threaten to bottle them and the employee gets injured ....and Mr Harris didn't give a toss or worry about prosecuting the pepetrator then....If bus drivers had the support of properly trained supervisors or indeed the special constable that's paid over 18 grand a year for that purpose maybe the poor driver wouldn't have got attacked.....its a shame that the drivers are out there alone...how many more employees have to be assaulted before the bus company do something...
axe to grind
thats no way to talk about Mrs. Thew ...
[quote][p][bold]martyt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mthew[/bold] wrote: Now mr Harris suddenly cares..well I supposed he has to to save bad publicity....supervi sors can be sent to incidents involving drunk people that threaten to bottle them and the employee gets injured ....and Mr Harris didn't give a toss or worry about prosecuting the pepetrator then....If bus drivers had the support of properly trained supervisors or indeed the special constable that's paid over 18 grand a year for that purpose maybe the poor driver wouldn't have got attacked.....its a shame that the drivers are out there alone...how many more employees have to be assaulted before the bus company do something...[/p][/quote]axe to grind[/p][/quote]thats no way to talk about Mrs. Thew ... Wide Bertha
  • Score: 0

7:41pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

Withdean-er wrote:
Have seen some crap driving and lack of manners by Brighton's bus drivers eg where there are parked cars on the bus's side of a road but none on the other, with plenty of places for the bus to pull in and wait ... for the bus driver to plough on towards oncoming traffic until it all comes to standstill in a jam in a slow motion game of chicken. A couple of times, arrogant bus drivers then got their tabloids out for a read. Another favourite is to pull out from bus stops abruptly when clearly there isn't a gap ... another childish game of chicken. Don't think they did those manoeuvres during the passenger vehicle driving tests.

Ask those other doyens of driving manners, taxi drivers, what they think of bus drivers. I was a Brighton cab last week, a bus driver did something crap, and the cabbie said they're all w***ers.
What you say may have an element of truth in it, however, cyclists in Brighton are, without doubt, collectively the most ignorant of road users. Despite all their lovely cycle lanes and special traffic lights they seem incapable of obeying the simplest of road rules. Personally I am convinced that 95% of cyclists in Brighton are both colour blind and illiterate judging by their actions on the roads and pavements, oh and occasionally (if they can be bothered) whilst using a cycle lane.
[quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: Have seen some crap driving and lack of manners by Brighton's bus drivers eg where there are parked cars on the bus's side of a road but none on the other, with plenty of places for the bus to pull in and wait ... for the bus driver to plough on towards oncoming traffic until it all comes to standstill in a jam in a slow motion game of chicken. A couple of times, arrogant bus drivers then got their tabloids out for a read. Another favourite is to pull out from bus stops abruptly when clearly there isn't a gap ... another childish game of chicken. Don't think they did those manoeuvres during the passenger vehicle driving tests. Ask those other doyens of driving manners, taxi drivers, what they think of bus drivers. I was a Brighton cab last week, a bus driver did something crap, and the cabbie said they're all w***ers.[/p][/quote]What you say may have an element of truth in it, however, cyclists in Brighton are, without doubt, collectively the most ignorant of road users. Despite all their lovely cycle lanes and special traffic lights they seem incapable of obeying the simplest of road rules. Personally I am convinced that 95% of cyclists in Brighton are both colour blind and illiterate judging by their actions on the roads and pavements, oh and occasionally (if they can be bothered) whilst using a cycle lane. Idontbelieveit1948
  • Score: 17

8:37pm Wed 2 Jul 14

MasonStorm says...

How awful. I hate cyclicsts.
How awful. I hate cyclicsts. MasonStorm
  • Score: 14

10:03pm Wed 2 Jul 14

ghost bus driver says...

Whatever the circumstances, the company has downloaded the CCTV footage from several cameras. Thinking out of the box a little though, could it be that the cyclist had an altercation a couple of days before and remembered the driver's face? Either way the cameras will have caught it. They'll have downloaded both sides, rear and the one in the cab.

As it is, through subtle inquiries I now know who the driver was, his depot, the bus number and what route it was on.
Whatever the circumstances, the company has downloaded the CCTV footage from several cameras. Thinking out of the box a little though, could it be that the cyclist had an altercation a couple of days before and remembered the driver's face? Either way the cameras will have caught it. They'll have downloaded both sides, rear and the one in the cab. As it is, through subtle inquiries I now know who the driver was, his depot, the bus number and what route it was on. ghost bus driver
  • Score: 3

10:19pm Wed 2 Jul 14

ghost bus driver says...

monkeymoo wrote:
No need for violence against bus drivers.

If they happen to drive like an idiot......
......Just roll up behind them at the next stop / traffic lights, and press the 'Emergency Engine Stop' button.
The engine cannot be re-started until the button is physically reset. Meaning a trip for the driver, out of their cab and to the rear of the bus.

You have your revenge, no one is hurt.
Perfect!
No the engine does not trip. The driver can just restart using the control in the cab. Also a lot of the engine covers are now lockable as schoolkids try that one round Patcham (or used to).

What you should realise is though if you do try this and the engine stops, so does the power steering system and the assisted braking system, so if you do so you could actually cause the bus to crash and you'd be the one who ended up in prison.
[quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: No need for violence against bus drivers. If they happen to drive like an idiot...... ......Just roll up behind them at the next stop / traffic lights, and press the 'Emergency Engine Stop' button. The engine cannot be re-started until the button is physically reset. Meaning a trip for the driver, out of their cab and to the rear of the bus. You have your revenge, no one is hurt. Perfect![/p][/quote]No the engine does not trip. The driver can just restart using the control in the cab. Also a lot of the engine covers are now lockable as schoolkids try that one round Patcham (or used to). What you should realise is though if you do try this and the engine stops, so does the power steering system and the assisted braking system, so if you do so you could actually cause the bus to crash and you'd be the one who ended up in prison. ghost bus driver
  • Score: 9

11:19pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

Idontbelieveit1948 wrote:
Withdean-er wrote:
Have seen some crap driving and lack of manners by Brighton's bus drivers eg where there are parked cars on the bus's side of a road but none on the other, with plenty of places for the bus to pull in and wait ... for the bus driver to plough on towards oncoming traffic until it all comes to standstill in a jam in a slow motion game of chicken. A couple of times, arrogant bus drivers then got their tabloids out for a read. Another favourite is to pull out from bus stops abruptly when clearly there isn't a gap ... another childish game of chicken. Don't think they did those manoeuvres during the passenger vehicle driving tests.

Ask those other doyens of driving manners, taxi drivers, what they think of bus drivers. I was a Brighton cab last week, a bus driver did something crap, and the cabbie said they're all w***ers.
What you say may have an element of truth in it, however, cyclists in Brighton are, without doubt, collectively the most ignorant of road users. Despite all their lovely cycle lanes and special traffic lights they seem incapable of obeying the simplest of road rules. Personally I am convinced that 95% of cyclists in Brighton are both colour blind and illiterate judging by their actions on the roads and pavements, oh and occasionally (if they can be bothered) whilst using a cycle lane.
The incidents I mentioned had nothing to do with cyclists who weren't in sight. Just good old fashioned rage between drivers of vehicles, with bus drivers acting bizarrely - refusing to wait on their side of the road in ample spaces to let cars continue through who had right of way. There's no cozy alliance out there of internal combustion engine drivers, all in a friendly united front against cyclists - but simply annoyance and anger on our roads daily in a dog-eat-dog fight for speed, progress and room.
[quote][p][bold]Idontbelieveit1948[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Withdean-er[/bold] wrote: Have seen some crap driving and lack of manners by Brighton's bus drivers eg where there are parked cars on the bus's side of a road but none on the other, with plenty of places for the bus to pull in and wait ... for the bus driver to plough on towards oncoming traffic until it all comes to standstill in a jam in a slow motion game of chicken. A couple of times, arrogant bus drivers then got their tabloids out for a read. Another favourite is to pull out from bus stops abruptly when clearly there isn't a gap ... another childish game of chicken. Don't think they did those manoeuvres during the passenger vehicle driving tests. Ask those other doyens of driving manners, taxi drivers, what they think of bus drivers. I was a Brighton cab last week, a bus driver did something crap, and the cabbie said they're all w***ers.[/p][/quote]What you say may have an element of truth in it, however, cyclists in Brighton are, without doubt, collectively the most ignorant of road users. Despite all their lovely cycle lanes and special traffic lights they seem incapable of obeying the simplest of road rules. Personally I am convinced that 95% of cyclists in Brighton are both colour blind and illiterate judging by their actions on the roads and pavements, oh and occasionally (if they can be bothered) whilst using a cycle lane.[/p][/quote]The incidents I mentioned had nothing to do with cyclists who weren't in sight. Just good old fashioned rage between drivers of vehicles, with bus drivers acting bizarrely - refusing to wait on their side of the road in ample spaces to let cars continue through who had right of way. There's no cozy alliance out there of internal combustion engine drivers, all in a friendly united front against cyclists - but simply annoyance and anger on our roads daily in a dog-eat-dog fight for speed, progress and room. Withdean-er
  • Score: 0

12:35am Thu 3 Jul 14

Perseus says...

The only way I escaped death by an errant bus driver who ran over my stationary bike was running the hell out of the way. They are the biggest menace for cyclists on the road. Recommendation: study the timetables and avoid the roads they travel on. First of all I considered throwing he mangled wreckage of the bike through the "a window, before I scarpered. They are big these double-deckers. Not worth arguing with! Buses are just plain dangerous, end orf.
The only way I escaped death by an errant bus driver who ran over my stationary bike was running the hell out of the way. They are the biggest menace for cyclists on the road. Recommendation: study the timetables and avoid the roads they travel on. First of all I considered throwing he mangled wreckage of the bike through the "a window, before I scarpered. They are big these double-deckers. Not worth arguing with! Buses are just plain dangerous, end orf. Perseus
  • Score: -10

1:31am Thu 3 Jul 14

martyt says...

truescouser wrote:
monkeymoo wrote:
No need for violence against bus drivers.

If they happen to drive like an idiot......
......Just roll up behind them at the next stop / traffic lights, and press the 'Emergency Engine Stop' button.
The engine cannot be re-started until the button is physically reset. Meaning a trip for the driver, out of their cab and to the rear of the bus.

You have your revenge, no one is hurt.
Perfect!
now that is brilliant ! as a cyclist I have had good cause to remonstrate with these buffoons who pass for drivers, and actually think they own the whole of the road.
not saying this driver was at fault (I wasn't there) but one does wonder what caused the cyclist to react in such an aggressive manner.
I mean - was this guy cycling along and, out of the blue, decided to attack the bus driver ? seems highly unlikely to me.
still very naughty of the cyclist though - buses have the right to barge anyone off the road; or it seems that way,sometimes.
oh dear ,can you tell me what licence you hold to cycle your bike what tests you have done what insurance cover you have and perhaps could you tell us how often you bike is checked for safety ,last but not least but how often do you take a course to enable you to stay on the road
[quote][p][bold]truescouser[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]monkeymoo[/bold] wrote: No need for violence against bus drivers. If they happen to drive like an idiot...... ......Just roll up behind them at the next stop / traffic lights, and press the 'Emergency Engine Stop' button. The engine cannot be re-started until the button is physically reset. Meaning a trip for the driver, out of their cab and to the rear of the bus. You have your revenge, no one is hurt. Perfect![/p][/quote]now that is brilliant ! as a cyclist I have had good cause to remonstrate with these buffoons who pass for drivers, and actually think they own the whole of the road. not saying this driver was at fault (I wasn't there) but one does wonder what caused the cyclist to react in such an aggressive manner. I mean - was this guy cycling along and, out of the blue, decided to attack the bus driver ? seems highly unlikely to me. still very naughty of the cyclist though - buses have the right to barge anyone off the road; or it seems that way,sometimes.[/p][/quote]oh dear ,can you tell me what licence you hold to cycle your bike what tests you have done what insurance cover you have and perhaps could you tell us how often you bike is checked for safety ,last but not least but how often do you take a course to enable you to stay on the road martyt
  • Score: 8

7:45am Thu 3 Jul 14

hoveguyactually says...

Brighton and Hove Council have clearly got to have a massive re-think about their attitude towards road users. Promotion of cycling on such a large scale has led to a huge amount of disagreement and frustration, and this incident highlights the dangerous situation they have created. Unfortunately this is not the first and will not be the last appalling incident of its kind. Instead of boasting arrogantly about the changes they have made and continue to make, they should consider the repercussions which are becoming very serious.
Meanwhile, the bus companies should ensure that their drivers behave in a safe and sensible manner and not act as if they own the streets, with the right to ignore other road users.
Brighton and Hove Council have clearly got to have a massive re-think about their attitude towards road users. Promotion of cycling on such a large scale has led to a huge amount of disagreement and frustration, and this incident highlights the dangerous situation they have created. Unfortunately this is not the first and will not be the last appalling incident of its kind. Instead of boasting arrogantly about the changes they have made and continue to make, they should consider the repercussions which are becoming very serious. Meanwhile, the bus companies should ensure that their drivers behave in a safe and sensible manner and not act as if they own the streets, with the right to ignore other road users. hoveguyactually
  • Score: 5

10:40am Thu 3 Jul 14

wexler53 says...

The photo of the person on the bike shows him approaching with what looks like the D lock in his hand - I'd suggest this implies pre meditation - why else would you be holding it?

I cycle, but use my hands on the controls, not to hold anything else.

It suggests a thought out intention to use it, but possibly not against the driver as such...

The best thing this guy could do is go to the Police voluntarily to explain himself.
The photo of the person on the bike shows him approaching with what looks like the D lock in his hand - I'd suggest this implies pre meditation - why else would you be holding it? I cycle, but use my hands on the controls, not to hold anything else. It suggests a thought out intention to use it, but possibly not against the driver as such... The best thing this guy could do is go to the Police voluntarily to explain himself. wexler53
  • Score: 9

12:25pm Thu 3 Jul 14

gheese77 says...

MasonStorm wrote:
How awful. I hate cyclicsts.
Whats awful ? - the fact that you hate cyclists. You should get out more
[quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: How awful. I hate cyclicsts.[/p][/quote]Whats awful ? - the fact that you hate cyclists. You should get out more gheese77
  • Score: -3

2:12pm Thu 3 Jul 14

runnergirl says...

hubby wrote:
When did the people of Brighton and Hove become so intolerant of one another?
When The Argus decided to give airtime to every troll with an 'opinion' and nothing better to do.
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: When did the people of Brighton and Hove become so intolerant of one another?[/p][/quote]When The Argus decided to give airtime to every troll with an 'opinion' and nothing better to do. runnergirl
  • Score: 5

5:13pm Thu 3 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

runnergirl wrote:
hubby wrote:
When did the people of Brighton and Hove become so intolerant of one another?
When The Argus decided to give airtime to every troll with an 'opinion' and nothing better to do.
And that's your excuse, yes?

After all, the thread is a discussion of the incident.
[quote][p][bold]runnergirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: When did the people of Brighton and Hove become so intolerant of one another?[/p][/quote]When The Argus decided to give airtime to every troll with an 'opinion' and nothing better to do.[/p][/quote]And that's your excuse, yes? After all, the thread is a discussion of the incident. stevo!!
  • Score: -3

5:16pm Thu 3 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

wexler53 wrote:
The photo of the person on the bike shows him approaching with what looks like the D lock in his hand - I'd suggest this implies pre meditation - why else would you be holding it?

I cycle, but use my hands on the controls, not to hold anything else.

It suggests a thought out intention to use it, but possibly not against the driver as such...

The best thing this guy could do is go to the Police voluntarily to explain himself.
It's more likely to be the strap of the case he was carrying, but given what he must have gone through, I cannot blame him for getting angry.
[quote][p][bold]wexler53[/bold] wrote: The photo of the person on the bike shows him approaching with what looks like the D lock in his hand - I'd suggest this implies pre meditation - why else would you be holding it? I cycle, but use my hands on the controls, not to hold anything else. It suggests a thought out intention to use it, but possibly not against the driver as such... The best thing this guy could do is go to the Police voluntarily to explain himself.[/p][/quote]It's more likely to be the strap of the case he was carrying, but given what he must have gone through, I cannot blame him for getting angry. stevo!!
  • Score: -7

6:58pm Thu 3 Jul 14

wexler53 says...

Actually Stevo, you don't know what he may or may not have gone through any more than the rest of us.

Unless you know the guy...

And if you look at the photos, you can clearly see the strap of his bag across his chest.

The left hand photo looks like it is a d lock.

However, my point remains - it would be best if he contacted the Police asap.

And if you do know him - being such an expert on what may or may not have happened, then you should do your civic duty and report him.
Actually Stevo, you don't know what he may or may not have gone through any more than the rest of us. Unless you know the guy... And if you look at the photos, you can clearly see the strap of his bag across his chest. The left hand photo looks like it is a d lock. However, my point remains - it would be best if he contacted the Police asap. And if you do know him - being such an expert on what may or may not have happened, then you should do your civic duty and report him. wexler53
  • Score: 4

9:35pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Levent says...

Bus drivers are a menace, they think they can do what they like.
Headline is a joke, as who knows what the "innocent" driver did to cause this "attack".
Bus drivers are a menace, they think they can do what they like. Headline is a joke, as who knows what the "innocent" driver did to cause this "attack". Levent
  • Score: -5

9:40pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Levent says...

MasonStorm wrote:
How awful. I hate cyclicsts.
What's are "cyclicsts"? What a shock, I would never have had you pegged as a TOTAL ILLITERATE NUMPTY. It seems you're unable to ride a bike also. Is there ANYTHING you CAN do, Bozo?
[quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: How awful. I hate cyclicsts.[/p][/quote]What's are "cyclicsts"? What a shock, I would never have had you pegged as a TOTAL ILLITERATE NUMPTY. It seems you're unable to ride a bike also. Is there ANYTHING you CAN do, Bozo? Levent
  • Score: -5

9:59pm Thu 3 Jul 14

ghost bus driver says...

Levent wrote:
Bus drivers are a menace, they think they can do what they like.
Headline is a joke, as who knows what the "innocent" driver did to cause this "attack".
Probably about the same as the "innocent" cyclist.

Looking at that image, yes that is a D-lock in his hand. And look at that mono-brow!
[quote][p][bold]Levent[/bold] wrote: Bus drivers are a menace, they think they can do what they like. Headline is a joke, as who knows what the "innocent" driver did to cause this "attack".[/p][/quote]Probably about the same as the "innocent" cyclist. Looking at that image, yes that is a D-lock in his hand. And look at that mono-brow! ghost bus driver
  • Score: 2

11:32pm Thu 3 Jul 14

MasonStorm says...

Levent wrote:
MasonStorm wrote:
How awful. I hate cyclicsts.
What's are "cyclicsts"? What a shock, I would never have had you pegged as a TOTAL ILLITERATE NUMPTY. It seems you're unable to ride a bike also. Is there ANYTHING you CAN do, Bozo?
Please re-type your comment so people can understand your deranged ramblings.
[quote][p][bold]Levent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: How awful. I hate cyclicsts.[/p][/quote]What's are "cyclicsts"? What a shock, I would never have had you pegged as a TOTAL ILLITERATE NUMPTY. It seems you're unable to ride a bike also. Is there ANYTHING you CAN do, Bozo?[/p][/quote]Please re-type your comment so people can understand your deranged ramblings. MasonStorm
  • Score: 4

2:24am Fri 4 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

wexler53 wrote:
Actually Stevo, you don't know what he may or may not have gone through any more than the rest of us.

Unless you know the guy...

And if you look at the photos, you can clearly see the strap of his bag across his chest.

The left hand photo looks like it is a d lock.

However, my point remains - it would be best if he contacted the Police asap.

And if you do know him - being such an expert on what may or may not have happened, then you should do your civic duty and report him.
Anyone who takes such drastic action has gone through something, as I wrote in my first post on this thread.,

No, there isn't a bag strap across his chest, and the original report states that he was carrying his bag, not wearing it.

I have no idea who he is, but I do hope he comes forward and explains what drove him to attack a bus driver in the hope that bus drivers are alerted to how badly they drive each day.
[quote][p][bold]wexler53[/bold] wrote: Actually Stevo, you don't know what he may or may not have gone through any more than the rest of us. Unless you know the guy... And if you look at the photos, you can clearly see the strap of his bag across his chest. The left hand photo looks like it is a d lock. However, my point remains - it would be best if he contacted the Police asap. And if you do know him - being such an expert on what may or may not have happened, then you should do your civic duty and report him.[/p][/quote]Anyone who takes such drastic action has gone through something, as I wrote in my first post on this thread., No, there isn't a bag strap across his chest, and the original report states that he was carrying his bag, not wearing it. I have no idea who he is, but I do hope he comes forward and explains what drove him to attack a bus driver in the hope that bus drivers are alerted to how badly they drive each day. stevo!!
  • Score: -9

10:51am Fri 4 Jul 14

voiceofthescoombe says...

Plenty of lunatics on the roads in all forms of transport.
Take a: deep breath and realize most people are not actively trying to kill you lifes easyier once you realize that
Plenty of lunatics on the roads in all forms of transport. Take a: deep breath and realize most people are not actively trying to kill you lifes easyier once you realize that voiceofthescoombe
  • Score: 0

1:41pm Fri 4 Jul 14

FatherTed11 says...

voiceofthescoombe wrote:
Plenty of lunatics on the roads in all forms of transport.
Take a: deep breath and realize most people are not actively trying to kill you lifes easyier once you realize that
Mainly bikes. I just saw 2 bikes go straight through a zebra crossing while people were walking across
[quote][p][bold]voiceofthescoombe[/bold] wrote: Plenty of lunatics on the roads in all forms of transport. Take a: deep breath and realize most people are not actively trying to kill you lifes easyier once you realize that[/p][/quote]Mainly bikes. I just saw 2 bikes go straight through a zebra crossing while people were walking across FatherTed11
  • Score: 4

3:16pm Fri 4 Jul 14

her professional says...

peteb21 wrote:
alan111 wrote:
james4618 wrote:
I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.
traffic bulling never herd of it. every firm have inconsiderate people working for them. Brighton bus drivers have many many very good considerate drivers. would you drive a twenty ton bus through the town centre. people running out in front of you cars always trying to get in front of you and then there's the passengers why are you late. now lets see. happy walking James its the bus for me
Bus drivers always drive at 30 mph, and whilst there are goons who just walk into the road to cross without looking properly, don't expect the bus driver to slow down, at all. Instead they will honk their horn and miss you by millimetres at most.

In fact the number of 'incidents' involving buses and pedestrians must be significantly above the average for 'incident' per mile of road travelled than for any other vehicle.
And your stats to back up that statement?
[quote][p][bold]peteb21[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alan111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james4618[/bold] wrote: I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.[/p][/quote]traffic bulling never herd of it. every firm have inconsiderate people working for them. Brighton bus drivers have many many very good considerate drivers. would you drive a twenty ton bus through the town centre. people running out in front of you cars always trying to get in front of you and then there's the passengers why are you late. now lets see. happy walking James its the bus for me[/p][/quote]Bus drivers always drive at 30 mph, and whilst there are goons who just walk into the road to cross without looking properly, don't expect the bus driver to slow down, at all. Instead they will honk their horn and miss you by millimetres at most. In fact the number of 'incidents' involving buses and pedestrians must be significantly above the average for 'incident' per mile of road travelled than for any other vehicle.[/p][/quote]And your stats to back up that statement? her professional
  • Score: 1

1:18pm Sat 5 Jul 14

sabbat36 says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
jackthekipper wrote:
a bus pulled out on me while doing 50 along the ovingdean -brighton a259 and nearly caused a multi pile up and give me the finger as i went by and i wasnt even remonstrating with him!,what i mean to say is there are some over zealous bus drivers and there are two sides to each story,come to think of it i think the bus driver was a she !!
Last Sunday, at around 10.20 am, I was driving along Dyke Road, and signalled that I was about to overtake a bus heading for Devils Dyke, which had stopped at the bus stop outside BHASVIC. The bus driver totally ignored my signal and waited until I had start to overtake before pulling out, causing me to swerve and then stop in a panic, while an oncoming car also had to swerve to avoid crashing into me. Motorists behind that car had to stop, while the bus then drove ahead, with me driving behind it. It was a dangerous and frightening situation, which unfortunately happens fairly frequently, as some bus drivers, who badly need to be sent on a course, take the attitude that they have the right to ignore the Highway Code, and use the road as if they own it, regardless of the hazards that this behaviour causes.
if you are behind the bus YOU have to give way -indicators indicate the direction of the vehilcle you are driving to some one behind you, and coming TOWARDS you.

You should take the most up to date DSA test and perhaps the full CPC to educate yourself. If you are behind any vehicle, intending to over take them, and they pull out -car/bus/lorry you are obliged to give way -no argument -this is part of the driving test.

I guarantee -you sat behind this bus, and when he indicated -you went to OVERTAKE A BUS IN FRONT OF YOU?
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackthekipper[/bold] wrote: a bus pulled out on me while doing 50 along the ovingdean -brighton a259 and nearly caused a multi pile up and give me the finger as i went by and i wasnt even remonstrating with him!,what i mean to say is there are some over zealous bus drivers and there are two sides to each story,come to think of it i think the bus driver was a she !![/p][/quote]Last Sunday, at around 10.20 am, I was driving along Dyke Road, and signalled that I was about to overtake a bus heading for Devils Dyke, which had stopped at the bus stop outside BHASVIC. The bus driver totally ignored my signal and waited until I had start to overtake before pulling out, causing me to swerve and then stop in a panic, while an oncoming car also had to swerve to avoid crashing into me. Motorists behind that car had to stop, while the bus then drove ahead, with me driving behind it. It was a dangerous and frightening situation, which unfortunately happens fairly frequently, as some bus drivers, who badly need to be sent on a course, take the attitude that they have the right to ignore the Highway Code, and use the road as if they own it, regardless of the hazards that this behaviour causes.[/p][/quote]if you are behind the bus YOU have to give way -indicators indicate the direction of the vehilcle you are driving to some one behind you, and coming TOWARDS you. You should take the most up to date DSA test and perhaps the full CPC to educate yourself. If you are behind any vehicle, intending to over take them, and they pull out -car/bus/lorry you are obliged to give way -no argument -this is part of the driving test. I guarantee -you sat behind this bus, and when he indicated -you went to OVERTAKE A BUS IN FRONT OF YOU? sabbat36
  • Score: 5

1:20pm Sat 5 Jul 14

sabbat36 says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
jackthekipper wrote:
a bus pulled out on me while doing 50 along the ovingdean -brighton a259 and nearly caused a multi pile up and give me the finger as i went by and i wasnt even remonstrating with him!,what i mean to say is there are some over zealous bus drivers and there are two sides to each story,come to think of it i think the bus driver was a she !!
Last Sunday, at around 10.20 am, I was driving along Dyke Road, and signalled that I was about to overtake a bus heading for Devils Dyke, which had stopped at the bus stop outside BHASVIC. The bus driver totally ignored my signal and waited until I had start to overtake before pulling out, causing me to swerve and then stop in a panic, while an oncoming car also had to swerve to avoid crashing into me. Motorists behind that car had to stop, while the bus then drove ahead, with me driving behind it. It was a dangerous and frightening situation, which unfortunately happens fairly frequently, as some bus drivers, who badly need to be sent on a course, take the attitude that they have the right to ignore the Highway Code, and use the road as if they own it, regardless of the hazards that this behaviour causes.
if you are behind the bus YOU have to give way -indicators indicate the direction of the vehilcle you are driving to some one behind you, and coming TOWARDS you.

You should take the most up to date DSA test and perhaps the full CPC to educate yourself. If you are behind any vehicle, intending to over take them, and they pull out -car/bus/lorry you are obliged to give way -no argument -this is part of the driving test.

YOU are in the wrong here.

I guarantee -you sat behind this bus, and when he indicated -you went to OVERTAKE A BUS,pulling out, IN FRONT OF YOU.

"He pulled out IN FRONT of me"
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackthekipper[/bold] wrote: a bus pulled out on me while doing 50 along the ovingdean -brighton a259 and nearly caused a multi pile up and give me the finger as i went by and i wasnt even remonstrating with him!,what i mean to say is there are some over zealous bus drivers and there are two sides to each story,come to think of it i think the bus driver was a she !![/p][/quote]Last Sunday, at around 10.20 am, I was driving along Dyke Road, and signalled that I was about to overtake a bus heading for Devils Dyke, which had stopped at the bus stop outside BHASVIC. The bus driver totally ignored my signal and waited until I had start to overtake before pulling out, causing me to swerve and then stop in a panic, while an oncoming car also had to swerve to avoid crashing into me. Motorists behind that car had to stop, while the bus then drove ahead, with me driving behind it. It was a dangerous and frightening situation, which unfortunately happens fairly frequently, as some bus drivers, who badly need to be sent on a course, take the attitude that they have the right to ignore the Highway Code, and use the road as if they own it, regardless of the hazards that this behaviour causes.[/p][/quote]if you are behind the bus YOU have to give way -indicators indicate the direction of the vehilcle you are driving to some one behind you, and coming TOWARDS you. You should take the most up to date DSA test and perhaps the full CPC to educate yourself. If you are behind any vehicle, intending to over take them, and they pull out -car/bus/lorry you are obliged to give way -no argument -this is part of the driving test. YOU are in the wrong here. I guarantee -you sat behind this bus, and when he indicated -you went to OVERTAKE A BUS,pulling out, IN FRONT OF YOU. "He pulled out IN FRONT of me" sabbat36
  • Score: 2

9:50pm Sat 5 Jul 14

monkeymoo? says...

stevo!! wrote:
lizzy1 wrote:
My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!!
No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him.

Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving.

We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted.

People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.
Tw4t
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lizzy1[/bold] wrote: My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!![/p][/quote]No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him. Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving. We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted. People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.[/p][/quote]Tw4t monkeymoo?
  • Score: 6

6:20am Sun 6 Jul 14

Moodycow70 says...

Brighton bus drivers , I've seen them smash into parked cars and drive off if the bus is empty. i took the number and reported it to the bus company for what it was worth .
I think the word ' comraderie ' should be changed to ' closed door protection fix' as they denied all of it and laughed despite having a parked car with company colours scrapped along it and an eye witness.
Most are ok , some are nasty bastards who will be hunted down by angry hipsters s in suits .
Brighton bus drivers , I've seen them smash into parked cars and drive off if the bus is empty. i took the number and reported it to the bus company for what it was worth . I think the word ' comraderie ' should be changed to ' closed door protection fix' as they denied all of it and laughed despite having a parked car with company colours scrapped along it and an eye witness. Most are ok , some are nasty bastards who will be hunted down by angry hipsters s in suits . Moodycow70
  • Score: -5

5:54pm Sun 6 Jul 14

sabbat36 says...

peteb21 wrote:
alan111 wrote:
james4618 wrote:
I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.
traffic bulling never herd of it. every firm have inconsiderate people working for them. Brighton bus drivers have many many very good considerate drivers. would you drive a twenty ton bus through the town centre. people running out in front of you cars always trying to get in front of you and then there's the passengers why are you late. now lets see. happy walking James its the bus for me
Bus drivers always drive at 30 mph, and whilst there are goons who just walk into the road to cross without looking properly, don't expect the bus driver to slow down, at all. Instead they will honk their horn and miss you by millimetres at most.

In fact the number of 'incidents' involving buses and pedestrians must be significantly above the average for 'incident' per mile of road travelled than for any other vehicle.
Perhaps for your last paragraph you could cite some evidence, considering you used the weird MUST, would suggest certainty.

Sussex police would be a good start to provide thus evidence, SSSI please provide scientific evidence.


Sorry did any body rise notice that vast ocean of tumble weed roll past, fooled by you earring a huge enormous, behemouth of a slice of humble pie?

Provide evidence, numb nuts.
[quote][p][bold]peteb21[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alan111[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]james4618[/bold] wrote: I do not condone violence against anyone, but I am surprised that this does not happen more often. Brighton bus drivers are the worst drivers that I have ever experienced. They are most inconsiderate to other road users. They do all they can to make life difficult to motorists, cyclists and pedestrians alike. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and seem to exist just to annoy other people. I know that this is probably a generalisation and that there are some good bus drivers out there. However, generalisation is what you get when there are so many poor, inconsiderate, traffic bullying bus drivers about. I would rather walk than give this company any of my money.[/p][/quote]traffic bulling never herd of it. every firm have inconsiderate people working for them. Brighton bus drivers have many many very good considerate drivers. would you drive a twenty ton bus through the town centre. people running out in front of you cars always trying to get in front of you and then there's the passengers why are you late. now lets see. happy walking James its the bus for me[/p][/quote]Bus drivers always drive at 30 mph, and whilst there are goons who just walk into the road to cross without looking properly, don't expect the bus driver to slow down, at all. Instead they will honk their horn and miss you by millimetres at most. In fact the number of 'incidents' involving buses and pedestrians must be significantly above the average for 'incident' per mile of road travelled than for any other vehicle.[/p][/quote]Perhaps for your last paragraph you could cite some evidence, considering you used the weird MUST, would suggest certainty. Sussex police would be a good start to provide thus evidence, SSSI please provide scientific evidence. Sorry did any body rise notice that vast ocean of tumble weed roll past, fooled by you earring a huge enormous, behemouth of a slice of humble pie? Provide evidence, numb nuts. sabbat36
  • Score: 1

9:36pm Sun 6 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

monkeymoo? wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
lizzy1 wrote:
My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!!
No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him.

Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving.

We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted.

People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.
Tw4t
Thanks for claiming I am right.
[quote][p][bold]monkeymoo?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lizzy1[/bold] wrote: My goodness, the ignorance and lack of intelligence of some of this comments are beyond believe. No one should have to suffer an attack when they are going about their work or indeed just living their lives. There is no justification for it all. Some of you have experienced run in's with bus drivers, so therefore it's ok for this driver to take a hiding on the 'bad' drivers behalf. Please, for the love of god, think before you start tapping away on your keyboards to condone violence against another person. Morons!!![/p][/quote]No-one has actually stated or implied that the bus driver deserved what happened to him. Some of us are merely recalling incidents whereby a bus driver was totally at fault for an incident yet got away with it, and where cracking his skull open would have been deemed reasonable punishment for his driving. We haven't been told what drove that cyclist to take such drastic action, and that is possibly because the bus driver was thoroughly deserving of being assaulted. People can mark this post down as much as they like.....it merely reinforces the fact that I'm right.[/p][/quote]Tw4t[/p][/quote]Thanks for claiming I am right. stevo!!
  • Score: -4

10:46pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Jaguar_uk says...

the behaviour of the Lycra louts is always going to cause conflict.
Why can't they just obey the rules of the road?
I used to cycle just to keep fit but gave up a while back as the tension between motorists and cyclists meant i was never really feeling safe anymore.
I've read much debate between cyclists and motorists which always descends into pathetic abuse, it really is beyond me why cyclists can't use the road properly therefore giving other road users no reason to despise them.
I don't believe that motorists have a problem with ordinary cyclists, the ones who are just going mindfully about their business, just those who think they are on a time trial stage of the Tour de France and pay no attention to other road users, especially pedestrians.
So Lycra louts how about losing the chip and making cycling fun again and not war?
the behaviour of the Lycra louts is always going to cause conflict. Why can't they just obey the rules of the road? I used to cycle just to keep fit but gave up a while back as the tension between motorists and cyclists meant i was never really feeling safe anymore. I've read much debate between cyclists and motorists which always descends into pathetic abuse, it really is beyond me why cyclists can't use the road properly therefore giving other road users no reason to despise them. I don't believe that motorists have a problem with ordinary cyclists, the ones who are just going mindfully about their business, just those who think they are on a time trial stage of the Tour de France and pay no attention to other road users, especially pedestrians. So Lycra louts how about losing the chip and making cycling fun again and not war? Jaguar_uk
  • Score: 6

10:57am Mon 7 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

sabbat36 wrote:
hoveguyactually wrote:
jackthekipper wrote:
a bus pulled out on me while doing 50 along the ovingdean -brighton a259 and nearly caused a multi pile up and give me the finger as i went by and i wasnt even remonstrating with him!,what i mean to say is there are some over zealous bus drivers and there are two sides to each story,come to think of it i think the bus driver was a she !!
Last Sunday, at around 10.20 am, I was driving along Dyke Road, and signalled that I was about to overtake a bus heading for Devils Dyke, which had stopped at the bus stop outside BHASVIC. The bus driver totally ignored my signal and waited until I had start to overtake before pulling out, causing me to swerve and then stop in a panic, while an oncoming car also had to swerve to avoid crashing into me. Motorists behind that car had to stop, while the bus then drove ahead, with me driving behind it. It was a dangerous and frightening situation, which unfortunately happens fairly frequently, as some bus drivers, who badly need to be sent on a course, take the attitude that they have the right to ignore the Highway Code, and use the road as if they own it, regardless of the hazards that this behaviour causes.
if you are behind the bus YOU have to give way -indicators indicate the direction of the vehilcle you are driving to some one behind you, and coming TOWARDS you.

You should take the most up to date DSA test and perhaps the full CPC to educate yourself. If you are behind any vehicle, intending to over take them, and they pull out -car/bus/lorry you are obliged to give way -no argument -this is part of the driving test.

YOU are in the wrong here.

I guarantee -you sat behind this bus, and when he indicated -you went to OVERTAKE A BUS,pulling out, IN FRONT OF YOU.

"He pulled out IN FRONT of me"
How can you 'guarantee' anything about this incident?

You weren't present.

The driver did what the law allows, ie overtaking 'parked' buses, and he didn't state what you claimed that he had.
[quote][p][bold]sabbat36[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackthekipper[/bold] wrote: a bus pulled out on me while doing 50 along the ovingdean -brighton a259 and nearly caused a multi pile up and give me the finger as i went by and i wasnt even remonstrating with him!,what i mean to say is there are some over zealous bus drivers and there are two sides to each story,come to think of it i think the bus driver was a she !![/p][/quote]Last Sunday, at around 10.20 am, I was driving along Dyke Road, and signalled that I was about to overtake a bus heading for Devils Dyke, which had stopped at the bus stop outside BHASVIC. The bus driver totally ignored my signal and waited until I had start to overtake before pulling out, causing me to swerve and then stop in a panic, while an oncoming car also had to swerve to avoid crashing into me. Motorists behind that car had to stop, while the bus then drove ahead, with me driving behind it. It was a dangerous and frightening situation, which unfortunately happens fairly frequently, as some bus drivers, who badly need to be sent on a course, take the attitude that they have the right to ignore the Highway Code, and use the road as if they own it, regardless of the hazards that this behaviour causes.[/p][/quote]if you are behind the bus YOU have to give way -indicators indicate the direction of the vehilcle you are driving to some one behind you, and coming TOWARDS you. You should take the most up to date DSA test and perhaps the full CPC to educate yourself. If you are behind any vehicle, intending to over take them, and they pull out -car/bus/lorry you are obliged to give way -no argument -this is part of the driving test. YOU are in the wrong here. I guarantee -you sat behind this bus, and when he indicated -you went to OVERTAKE A BUS,pulling out, IN FRONT OF YOU. "He pulled out IN FRONT of me"[/p][/quote]How can you 'guarantee' anything about this incident? You weren't present. The driver did what the law allows, ie overtaking 'parked' buses, and he didn't state what you claimed that he had. stevo!!
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4:17pm Mon 7 Jul 14

Fairfax Aches says...

If some cyclist smashed in MY window and tried to assault ME, he'd get a jolly sound thrashing for his impudence.
If some cyclist smashed in MY window and tried to assault ME, he'd get a jolly sound thrashing for his impudence. Fairfax Aches
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11:15am Wed 9 Jul 14

TROY44 says...

hoveguyactually wrote:
jackthekipper wrote:
a bus pulled out on me while doing 50 along the ovingdean -brighton a259 and nearly caused a multi pile up and give me the finger as i went by and i wasnt even remonstrating with him!,what i mean to say is there are some over zealous bus drivers and there are two sides to each story,come to think of it i think the bus driver was a she !!
Last Sunday, at around 10.20 am, I was driving along Dyke Road, and signalled that I was about to overtake a bus heading for Devils Dyke, which had stopped at the bus stop outside BHASVIC. The bus driver totally ignored my signal and waited until I had start to overtake before pulling out, causing me to swerve and then stop in a panic, while an oncoming car also had to swerve to avoid crashing into me. Motorists behind that car had to stop, while the bus then drove ahead, with me driving behind it. It was a dangerous and frightening situation, which unfortunately happens fairly frequently, as some bus drivers, who badly need to be sent on a course, take the attitude that they have the right to ignore the Highway Code, and use the road as if they own it, regardless of the hazards that this behaviour causes.
The fact the bus caused you too swerve ( your own words) clearly means you were not reading the road ahead.
[quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackthekipper[/bold] wrote: a bus pulled out on me while doing 50 along the ovingdean -brighton a259 and nearly caused a multi pile up and give me the finger as i went by and i wasnt even remonstrating with him!,what i mean to say is there are some over zealous bus drivers and there are two sides to each story,come to think of it i think the bus driver was a she !![/p][/quote]Last Sunday, at around 10.20 am, I was driving along Dyke Road, and signalled that I was about to overtake a bus heading for Devils Dyke, which had stopped at the bus stop outside BHASVIC. The bus driver totally ignored my signal and waited until I had start to overtake before pulling out, causing me to swerve and then stop in a panic, while an oncoming car also had to swerve to avoid crashing into me. Motorists behind that car had to stop, while the bus then drove ahead, with me driving behind it. It was a dangerous and frightening situation, which unfortunately happens fairly frequently, as some bus drivers, who badly need to be sent on a course, take the attitude that they have the right to ignore the Highway Code, and use the road as if they own it, regardless of the hazards that this behaviour causes.[/p][/quote]The fact the bus caused you too swerve ( your own words) clearly means you were not reading the road ahead. TROY44
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8:17pm Sun 20 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

TROY44 wrote:
hoveguyactually wrote:
jackthekipper wrote:
a bus pulled out on me while doing 50 along the ovingdean -brighton a259 and nearly caused a multi pile up and give me the finger as i went by and i wasnt even remonstrating with him!,what i mean to say is there are some over zealous bus drivers and there are two sides to each story,come to think of it i think the bus driver was a she !!
Last Sunday, at around 10.20 am, I was driving along Dyke Road, and signalled that I was about to overtake a bus heading for Devils Dyke, which had stopped at the bus stop outside BHASVIC. The bus driver totally ignored my signal and waited until I had start to overtake before pulling out, causing me to swerve and then stop in a panic, while an oncoming car also had to swerve to avoid crashing into me. Motorists behind that car had to stop, while the bus then drove ahead, with me driving behind it. It was a dangerous and frightening situation, which unfortunately happens fairly frequently, as some bus drivers, who badly need to be sent on a course, take the attitude that they have the right to ignore the Highway Code, and use the road as if they own it, regardless of the hazards that this behaviour causes.
The fact the bus caused you too swerve ( your own words) clearly means you were not reading the road ahead.
It means nothing of the sort.

He was overtaking a stationary vehicle that decided to pull out whilst he was level with it.
[quote][p][bold]TROY44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hoveguyactually[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jackthekipper[/bold] wrote: a bus pulled out on me while doing 50 along the ovingdean -brighton a259 and nearly caused a multi pile up and give me the finger as i went by and i wasnt even remonstrating with him!,what i mean to say is there are some over zealous bus drivers and there are two sides to each story,come to think of it i think the bus driver was a she !![/p][/quote]Last Sunday, at around 10.20 am, I was driving along Dyke Road, and signalled that I was about to overtake a bus heading for Devils Dyke, which had stopped at the bus stop outside BHASVIC. The bus driver totally ignored my signal and waited until I had start to overtake before pulling out, causing me to swerve and then stop in a panic, while an oncoming car also had to swerve to avoid crashing into me. Motorists behind that car had to stop, while the bus then drove ahead, with me driving behind it. It was a dangerous and frightening situation, which unfortunately happens fairly frequently, as some bus drivers, who badly need to be sent on a course, take the attitude that they have the right to ignore the Highway Code, and use the road as if they own it, regardless of the hazards that this behaviour causes.[/p][/quote]The fact the bus caused you too swerve ( your own words) clearly means you were not reading the road ahead.[/p][/quote]It means nothing of the sort. He was overtaking a stationary vehicle that decided to pull out whilst he was level with it. stevo!!
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