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Traders anger over roadworks

The Argus: HITTING TRADE: Roadworks in Edward Street HITTING TRADE: Roadworks in Edward Street

ANGRY traders believe roadworks are so perilous for pedestrians that they are losing trade.

Businesses on Edward Street are worried about customers and said they have suffered a loss of trade.

The work, to cost £1million, started in March and is scheduled to finish in October.

John Easterby, owner of Verdicts Cafe Jazz Club, said: “Overnight my business has dropped 60 per cent because 90 per cent of it comes from across the road.”

Mr Easterby stated the reason was people don’t want to cross the road.

Mr Easterby said: “I’ve seen three or four near misses. There’s no room for cars and cyclists to travel together.”

Kate Gregory, jazz club manager, said: “John’s not over reacting.Someone will get killed.”

The roadworks will result in one of the lanes being turned into a shared lane for buses, taxis and bikes.

Jimmy Richardson, who has owned Jimmy’s barbers for 55 years, said: “We’re 50 per cent down as people can’t get to us. Whatever complaints you make it doesn’t make any difference.

Mrs Sharma, co-owner of the newsagents on Edward Street, said: “I don’t understand why the council is doing this. Has the council got too much money?”

A spokesman for Brighton and Hove City Council said the council always apologises for roadworks.

He said: “While there’s inevitable short term disruption, in the longer-term this scheme will benefit traders by radically improving access.

“We have put out signs warning pedestrians to look both ways at a temporary crossing point.”

The council also plans to install a temporary pelican crossing as a safety measure.

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10:37am Tue 8 Jul 14

s&k says...

Yes, it's a mess isn't it. And wait til the Vogue gyratory works start.
Yes, it's a mess isn't it. And wait til the Vogue gyratory works start. s&k
  • Score: 34

11:12am Tue 8 Jul 14

stumpyshimmans says...

Waste,Waste,Waste...
. £1million that could have been spent on Marine Parade. It wasn't broke so why fix it....another Vanity Project!
Waste,Waste,Waste... . £1million that could have been spent on Marine Parade. It wasn't broke so why fix it....another Vanity Project! stumpyshimmans
  • Score: 34

11:18am Tue 8 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

Gone very quiet on the Ben Duncan front. Any idea when he will be up in front of matron Lucas for his marching orders?
Gone very quiet on the Ben Duncan front. Any idea when he will be up in front of matron Lucas for his marching orders? We love Red Billy
  • Score: 20

11:28am Tue 8 Jul 14

goonergirl23 says...

Don't talk to me about Edward Street road works, people keep moving the barriers to climb over them, I have hit them many times as they are out of place. You can't get down any of the side streets, there's no where to park as everything is closed off, and the worse thing is, you never see anyone working on them, its a complete mess, how no one has been killed I will never know, I have seen many near misses. Our City's road works are in a right state, the seafront is terrible, God knows what the visitors think. Roll on 2015 when we can get these Green's out.
Don't talk to me about Edward Street road works, people keep moving the barriers to climb over them, I have hit them many times as they are out of place. You can't get down any of the side streets, there's no where to park as everything is closed off, and the worse thing is, you never see anyone working on them, its a complete mess, how no one has been killed I will never know, I have seen many near misses. Our City's road works are in a right state, the seafront is terrible, God knows what the visitors think. Roll on 2015 when we can get these Green's out. goonergirl23
  • Score: 38

11:37am Tue 8 Jul 14

gheese77 says...

stumpyshimmans wrote:
Waste,Waste,Waste...

. £1million that could have been spent on Marine Parade. It wasn't broke so why fix it....another Vanity Project!
Once the roadworks are finished it should be much better for pedestrians so these traders should see their trade improve due to increase footfall. The car obsessed planners of the 1960's / 1970's made a real mess of this area. Pre-war Edward street actually looked quite nice.
[quote][p][bold]stumpyshimmans[/bold] wrote: Waste,Waste,Waste... . £1million that could have been spent on Marine Parade. It wasn't broke so why fix it....another Vanity Project![/p][/quote]Once the roadworks are finished it should be much better for pedestrians so these traders should see their trade improve due to increase footfall. The car obsessed planners of the 1960's / 1970's made a real mess of this area. Pre-war Edward street actually looked quite nice. gheese77
  • Score: -41

11:37am Tue 8 Jul 14

gheese77 says...

stumpyshimmans wrote:
Waste,Waste,Waste...

. £1million that could have been spent on Marine Parade. It wasn't broke so why fix it....another Vanity Project!
Once the roadworks are finished it should be much better for pedestrians so these traders should see their trade improve due to increase footfall. The car obsessed planners of the 1960's / 1970's made a real mess of this area. Pre-war Edward street actually looked quite nice.
[quote][p][bold]stumpyshimmans[/bold] wrote: Waste,Waste,Waste... . £1million that could have been spent on Marine Parade. It wasn't broke so why fix it....another Vanity Project![/p][/quote]Once the roadworks are finished it should be much better for pedestrians so these traders should see their trade improve due to increase footfall. The car obsessed planners of the 1960's / 1970's made a real mess of this area. Pre-war Edward street actually looked quite nice. gheese77
  • Score: -36

12:21pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Fairfax Aches says...

So what if a few tat and greasy kebab shops close, better off without them I say.
So what if a few tat and greasy kebab shops close, better off without them I say. Fairfax Aches
  • Score: -18

12:25pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Increased footfall to the cops shop, various courts, the Gala bingo hall, a few sandwich shops and maybe the hospital.
It's hardly Covent Garden.
Increased footfall to the cops shop, various courts, the Gala bingo hall, a few sandwich shops and maybe the hospital. It's hardly Covent Garden. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 8

12:44pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Just trying to earn a crust says...

I wonder what a 'trader' as big as Sainsbury's is going to say when there takings are hit for 5 months while the Vogue gyratory is mucked about with. I know the greens say it will be better for them but after 5 months peoples shopping habits will change
I wonder what a 'trader' as big as Sainsbury's is going to say when there takings are hit for 5 months while the Vogue gyratory is mucked about with. I know the greens say it will be better for them but after 5 months peoples shopping habits will change Just trying to earn a crust
  • Score: 24

1:41pm Tue 8 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

Fairfax Aches wrote:
So what if a few tat and greasy kebab shops close, better off without them I say.
Those are peoples businesses an lives you gormless pile of Kitcat poo.
[quote][p][bold]Fairfax Aches[/bold] wrote: So what if a few tat and greasy kebab shops close, better off without them I say.[/p][/quote]Those are peoples businesses an lives you gormless pile of Kitcat poo. We love Red Billy
  • Score: 13

3:16pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Hopefully sainsbury will offer free delivery for online customers during the work on the Gyratory. I'm hoping the road gets re surfaced. It's an atrocious surface for cycling as is most if the town.
Hopefully sainsbury will offer free delivery for online customers during the work on the Gyratory. I'm hoping the road gets re surfaced. It's an atrocious surface for cycling as is most if the town. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: -2

3:48pm Tue 8 Jul 14

rolivan says...

So the work started in March and they decide 4 months later that a Pedestrian crossing might help . American Express employ how many people at their Edward St site? There might have been a little clue there . Apologies made and lessons are never learnt usual lip service.
So the work started in March and they decide 4 months later that a Pedestrian crossing might help . American Express employ how many people at their Edward St site? There might have been a little clue there . Apologies made and lessons are never learnt usual lip service. rolivan
  • Score: 13

4:00pm Tue 8 Jul 14

wexler53 says...

They can muck Edward Street and others about with complete abandon, but don't see any merit in getting the seafront at the bottom of West Street sorted quickly.

We're only a resort town after all, so who cares about visitors and tourists?

Our council is only interested in pursuing it's narrow minded agenda to the bitter end...

Mind you, with the i360, we'll be able to welcome people to "Brighton, the well and truly shafted by the greens cycling mecca of the south"...
They can muck Edward Street and others about with complete abandon, but don't see any merit in getting the seafront at the bottom of West Street sorted quickly. We're only a resort town after all, so who cares about visitors and tourists? Our council is only interested in pursuing it's narrow minded agenda to the bitter end... Mind you, with the i360, we'll be able to welcome people to "Brighton, the well and truly shafted by the greens cycling mecca of the south"... wexler53
  • Score: 14

7:49pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Sussex jim says...

How fast are buses and taxis going to be able to travel up Edward Street when stuck behind a wheezing cyclist trying to ride up the hill?
How fast are buses and taxis going to be able to travel up Edward Street when stuck behind a wheezing cyclist trying to ride up the hill? Sussex jim
  • Score: 3

8:08pm Tue 8 Jul 14

pebble counter says...

If there is no room for cyclists then I advise cyclists to ride in the middle of the road. Any car drivers disagree with this - see me.
If there is no room for cyclists then I advise cyclists to ride in the middle of the road. Any car drivers disagree with this - see me. pebble counter
  • Score: -2

11:06pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Bill in Hanover says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Hopefully sainsbury will offer free delivery for online customers during the work on the Gyratory. I'm hoping the road gets re surfaced. It's an atrocious surface for cycling as is most if the town.
Less than 2 weeks ago the signs on the road around the gyratory were freshly painted and now they are to resurface it, it appears that the Council's right hand doesn't know what its left is doing so don't expect miracles.
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Hopefully sainsbury will offer free delivery for online customers during the work on the Gyratory. I'm hoping the road gets re surfaced. It's an atrocious surface for cycling as is most if the town.[/p][/quote]Less than 2 weeks ago the signs on the road around the gyratory were freshly painted and now they are to resurface it, it appears that the Council's right hand doesn't know what its left is doing so don't expect miracles. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 2

6:10am Wed 9 Jul 14

ohhumanity says...

pebble counter wrote:
If there is no room for cyclists then I advise cyclists to ride in the middle of the road. Any car drivers disagree with this - see me.
The majority of cyclists seem to swerve in and out of the middle of the road without thinking anyway so it wouldn't really make much difference. Everyone tries to blame car drivers for the accidents that happen. Go stand at the clock tower and you'll see pedestrians who cross even when the lights are telling them it's unsafe to do so. You'll also see cyclists who cause hazards by approaching red lights and deciding to jump on the pavement (hazardous for pedestrians as well) and then cycle to get around the lights.

Not all car drivers are safe and cautious, neither are all the cyclists.
[quote][p][bold]pebble counter[/bold] wrote: If there is no room for cyclists then I advise cyclists to ride in the middle of the road. Any car drivers disagree with this - see me.[/p][/quote]The majority of cyclists seem to swerve in and out of the middle of the road without thinking anyway so it wouldn't really make much difference. Everyone tries to blame car drivers for the accidents that happen. Go stand at the clock tower and you'll see pedestrians who cross even when the lights are telling them it's unsafe to do so. You'll also see cyclists who cause hazards by approaching red lights and deciding to jump on the pavement (hazardous for pedestrians as well) and then cycle to get around the lights. Not all car drivers are safe and cautious, neither are all the cyclists. ohhumanity
  • Score: 3

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