The ArgusUncovered: The Sussex companies employing illegal immigrants – but the government refuses to reveal 82 others (From The Argus)

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Government refuses to name 82 companies caught employing illegal immigrants in Sussex

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Law-breaking business owners’ crimes are being kept a secret if they pay up, The Argus can reveal.

Firms employing illegal workers have their names and details withheld from the public if they pay a Home Office fine within a specified period.

Government officials say the policy helps “drive compliance” and protects the companies’ “commercial interests”.

However, Sussex politicians have slammed the practice and called on the offending businesses to be “named and shamed”.

An Argus Freedom of Information (FOI) request revealed 121 businesses in Sussex have been fined for employing illegal workers since the start of 2011.

However, the Home Office released the names and details of just 39 – less than a third of the total.

The government department told The Argus that illegal working often goes hand in hand with abusive and exploitative behaviour by rouge employees, the mistreatment of migrant workers and tax evasion.

However, they also refused to reveal the details of the offences committed by the firms as it would cost too much to access the files.

The highest fine which has been revealed was handed to China China Restaurant in Preston Street, Brighton. On September 17, 2012 the business owner was ordered to pay £60,000.

The restaurant has been raided three times by immigration officers in a five year period – in October 2008, April 2009 and October 2013. However, we only know about their law breaking because they did not pay their fine within a 28 day time limit as set by the Home Office.

The joint second highest fines made public were handed to Masala Gate, St Pancras, Chichester, in February 2013 and Viceroy Restuarant, Lewes Road, Polegate, in May 2013. Both venues were given a £26,250 bill.

Masala Gate was also handed a £25,000 fine the year before – which bosses again failed to pay within the specified time period.

Other businesses hit with a £25,000 fine include Urdu Blue of Broadwater, Broadwater Street, in Worthing, in March 2012, and Zaman, of Warwick Street, Worthing, in September 2013.

Cardamom Bay, in Queensway, Bognor, was another restaurant caught twice with illegal workers.

Its first fine was for £8,750 in February 2011 and the second for £10,000 in January 2013.

However, we will never know the details of the other 82 law breaking businesses.

The Home Office, in a statement, explained their policy of withholding the details of the firms which pay their fine within the set 28 days.

It said: “The Home Office’s policy is to drive compliance and, in accordance with our policy aims, it is both appropriate and proportionate to disclose business details where an employer has failed to comply.

“This may be because either the business has not paid or made arrangements to pay the penalty within 28 days of exhausting all appeal rights.

“However, we have decided not to disclose details of the remaining 82 businesses that have paid or are paying their penalties.”

The statement goes on to state that section 43 (2) of the Freedom of Information (FOI) act allows them to withhold the information.

Under the FOI act, the clause allows the withholding of information where it “would, or would be likely to, prejudice the commercial interests of any persons”.

The statement continues: “If we were to disclose details of those employers who have paid or are paying their penalties it is considered that the release of this information could prejudice the commercial interests of the businesses concerned. Disclosure of the details of these companies is likely to prejudice their reputations, and consequently their commercial interests, as customers may choose to trade with competitors they consider to be more ethical.”

To be able to apply the section 43 exemption, the Home Office must apply a public interest test as to whether to reveal the business names. It concluded that protecting business interests outweighed the right for the public to know which firms were playing by the rules.

The statement added: “There may be a public interest in disclosing information about businesses which have incurred penalties for employing illegal workers, so that the public is able to see that such businesses are dealt with robustly and fairly.

“The knowledge that businesses’ details will be released if they do not pay their penalty encourages businesses to comply and make payments in a timely manner.

“There would be a loss of trust and the policy would be less effective if the Home Office were to release these details.

“This would adversely affect the Home Office’s effective collection of penalties, leading to a greater need for enforcement action which is clearly not in the public interest.”

The revelation has caused anger among Sussex politicians, with some calling on the Home Office to “name and shame” all those who have been caught hiring illegal workers.

Commenting on the six Brighton and Hove offenders, Caroline Lucas Green MP for Brighton Pavilion, said: “I’m immensely proud of the many employers in the city who subscribe to the Living Wage Campaign.

“They show that, even when times are tough, it’s possible to tackle inequality while maintaining competitiveness.

“Those businesses reflect values that have become synonymous with our city – that fierce sense of fairness, of working for the common good: that’s Brighton.”

She added: “I’m aware of the situation and have been in contact with Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs calling for all businesses that knowingly flout these laws to be publicly named and shamed.

“Companies which exploit their staff have no business here.”

Warren Morgan, Brighton and Hove City Council Labour group leader, said it was “utterly wrong” for the government to let offending companies remain anonymous.

Also agreeing that they should be “named and shamed” he said: “That would mean customers can choose not to do business with firms that don’t behave ethically, and businesses that do play by the rules are not competing with those who don’t and who abuse their staff and the system.”

Mike Weatherley, Conservative MP for Hove, said the Home Office should release as much information as possible when called upon.

However, he added: “I do accept that there are occasions when a business can unintentionally fall foul of the rules, in which case adverse publicity might be a little unfair.”

Simon Kirby, Conservative MP for Brighton Kemptown, described the actions of offending businesses as “unacceptable” and said he was “pleased” the government was taking action.

The Home Office told The Argus they were “committed” to tackling the problem of illegal workers.

Earlier this year the maximum civil penalty fine amount was raised to £20,000 for each illegal worker. They have also increased immigration enforcement operations and said they are working closely with the police, local authorities, the Health and Safety Executive and HMRC to tackle rouge employers who exploit illegal workers.

Immigration Minister James Brokenshire said: “We will take robust action against rogue businesses who employ illegal workers and seek to evade tax and minimum wage laws. “Illegal working is not victimless. It undercuts honest employers, defrauds the taxpayer and cheats legitimate job hunters out of employment opportunities.”

Companies fined for employing illegal workers in three years

2011
Cardamom Bay, Queensway, Bognor: £8,750
Delhi Spice, George Street, Brighton: £10,000
India Gate, Mill Lane, Arundel: £20,000
New Tandoori Nights, Sea Lane, Rustington: £10,000
Phoenix House, Surrey Street, Littlehampton: £5,000
The Taj Mahal Indian Restaurant, Sackville Road, Bexhill: £15,000

2012
China China Restaurant, Preston Street, Brighton: £60,000
Curry Master, Green Street, Eastbourne: £10,000
Masala Gate, St Pancras, Chichester: £25,000
Mr. Hau’s of Eastbourne, Terminus Road, Eastbourne: £5,000
Oriental Express, Terminus Road, Eastbourne: £5,000
Royal Gurkha Restaurant, Aldwick Road, Bognor: £20,000
Samins, Middle Road, Shoreham: £10,000
Tandoori Nights Restaurant, Sea Lane, Rustington: £8,750
Tulsi Tandoori, Queens Parade, Hove: £5,000
Urdu Blue of Broadwater, Broadwater Street, Worthing: £25,000

2013
Cardamon Bay Indian Restaurant, Queensway, Bognor: £10,000
Cinnamon Spice, Kings Road, St Leonards: £5,000
Greco Greek Restaurant, Kings Road, Brighton: £10,000
India Gate, Bognor Road, Chichester: £20,000
Lees Garden, Lewes Road, Brighton: £15,000
Ling Ling Chinese Takeaway, Fishersgate Terrace, Portslade: £10,000
Mahaan Restaurant, Montague Street, Worthing: £7,500
Masala Gate, St Pancras, Chichester: £26,250
Mascara Restaurant, Western Road, Brighton: £10,000
Memosh, Montague Street, Worthing: £5,000
Moon Of India, Sutton Park Road, Seaford: £2,500
Royal Jaipur Restaurant, Brighton Road, Worthing: £10,000
Shahjahan Indian Cuisine, High Street, Seaford: £5,000
Spice Garden, Church Street, Eastbourne: £10,000
Spice Merchant, West Street, Lewes: £15,000
The Viceroy Restaurant, Grand Parade, Lewes Road: £26,250
Tiffin Express, Station Street, Eastbourne: £5,000
Zaman, Warwick Street, Worthing: £25,000

2014
Bengal Palace, Church Street, Seaford: £15,000
Curry Villa, Wick Parade, Littlehampton: £10,000
So India, Station Road, East Preston: £5,000
Chicken Cottage, Littlehampton: £5,000
Top Solar Ltd, East Beach Street, Hastings: £5,000

  • The Home Office has supplied the above information. It is possible in the time since the fines were issued the businesses have changed hands.

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1:11pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

Easy pickings for our Border Police.
Just keep raiding Indian and Chinese 'food' establishments.
Easy pickings for our Border Police. Just keep raiding Indian and Chinese 'food' establishments. Withdean-er
  • Score: 24

1:31pm Wed 16 Jul 14

notaconspiracy says...

Isn't this the same as you or I not having to go to court and be 'named and shamed' if we pay parking/speeding fines on schedule?
Isn't this the same as you or I not having to go to court and be 'named and shamed' if we pay parking/speeding fines on schedule? notaconspiracy
  • Score: 1

1:34pm Wed 16 Jul 14

FatherTed11 says...

this article is making me hungry
this article is making me hungry FatherTed11
  • Score: 6

1:38pm Wed 16 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

notaconspiracy wrote:
Isn't this the same as you or I not having to go to court and be 'named and shamed' if we pay parking/speeding fines on schedule?
It's also yet another sign of the authorities pandering to the immigrants.

Situations like this increase anti-immigrant feeling because they show that immigrants have access to special treatment when it comes to breaking the law.
[quote][p][bold]notaconspiracy[/bold] wrote: Isn't this the same as you or I not having to go to court and be 'named and shamed' if we pay parking/speeding fines on schedule?[/p][/quote]It's also yet another sign of the authorities pandering to the immigrants. Situations like this increase anti-immigrant feeling because they show that immigrants have access to special treatment when it comes to breaking the law. stevo!!
  • Score: -9

1:42pm Wed 16 Jul 14

PeacehavenPaul says...

"Rouge employees"?
"Rouge employees"? PeacehavenPaul
  • Score: 7

1:45pm Wed 16 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

PeacehavenPaul wrote:
"Rouge employees"?
A reference to them being 'red-faced' at being caught?
[quote][p][bold]PeacehavenPaul[/bold] wrote: "Rouge employees"?[/p][/quote]A reference to them being 'red-faced' at being caught? stevo!!
  • Score: -4

2:01pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

I find this article very worrying, poorly written to begin with. However, you refer to China China in Preston Street being fined, but picture China Garden? Did they also get prosecuted? Or is this a mistake? Very damaging to China Gardens reputation if a mistake. Please confirm which is which Argus please.
I find this article very worrying, poorly written to begin with. However, you refer to China China in Preston Street being fined, but picture China Garden? Did they also get prosecuted? Or is this a mistake? Very damaging to China Gardens reputation if a mistake. Please confirm which is which Argus please. Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 11

2:29pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Cave Johnson says...

Can you rewrite this please? it is poorly written. Very poorly written. Also the artice references China China but the photo shows China Garden.
Can you rewrite this please? it is poorly written. Very poorly written. Also the artice references China China but the photo shows China Garden. Cave Johnson
  • Score: 8

2:31pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

Cave Johnson wrote:
Can you rewrite this please? it is poorly written. Very poorly written. Also the artice references China China but the photo shows China Garden.
My point exactly, what awful journalism, and how outrageous for China Garden! I'd be going nuts if I was them
[quote][p][bold]Cave Johnson[/bold] wrote: Can you rewrite this please? it is poorly written. Very poorly written. Also the artice references China China but the photo shows China Garden.[/p][/quote]My point exactly, what awful journalism, and how outrageous for China Garden! I'd be going nuts if I was them Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 5

2:47pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Mng*68 says...

Not surprised to read how easy a Country we are n not wishing to sound disrespectful to anyone - but since the benefit flood gates opened it appears we are a joke of a Country . In every aspect we just carry on n let situations go on n on. Then not just let traders do things non law abiding once but continuously. God help the shop keeper that sells alcohol to rough sleepers. His name is up in lights !!!! About time ENGLAND became GREAT again n started controlling our systems properly . We accept far more than any others . If you do WRONG ..stop the trader permanently ... Company house should state ceased trading for the true reasons . Fraud training should be on the up to those responsible at boarder control .
Not surprised to read how easy a Country we are n not wishing to sound disrespectful to anyone - but since the benefit flood gates opened it appears we are a joke of a Country . In every aspect we just carry on n let situations go on n on. Then not just let traders do things non law abiding once but continuously. God help the shop keeper that sells alcohol to rough sleepers. His name is up in lights !!!! About time ENGLAND became GREAT again n started controlling our systems properly . We accept far more than any others . If you do WRONG ..stop the trader permanently ... Company house should state ceased trading for the true reasons . Fraud training should be on the up to those responsible at boarder control . Mng*68
  • Score: 21

2:50pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Patsyr says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
I find this article very worrying, poorly written to begin with. However, you refer to China China in Preston Street being fined, but picture China Garden? Did they also get prosecuted? Or is this a mistake? Very damaging to China Gardens reputation if a mistake. Please confirm which is which Argus please.
What reputation do you think China Garden has got? I wouldn't eat there.
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: I find this article very worrying, poorly written to begin with. However, you refer to China China in Preston Street being fined, but picture China Garden? Did they also get prosecuted? Or is this a mistake? Very damaging to China Gardens reputation if a mistake. Please confirm which is which Argus please.[/p][/quote]What reputation do you think China Garden has got? I wouldn't eat there. Patsyr
  • Score: 8

2:58pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

Patsyr wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
I find this article very worrying, poorly written to begin with. However, you refer to China China in Preston Street being fined, but picture China Garden? Did they also get prosecuted? Or is this a mistake? Very damaging to China Gardens reputation if a mistake. Please confirm which is which Argus please.
What reputation do you think China Garden has got? I wouldn't eat there.
I think they have a good reputation, and have done for the 30 years they've been open, dare i be so bold as to suggest they must be pretty good to last 30 years? This isn't about their quality of food anyway, its about a local paper mis representing and damaging local businesses through poor journalism.

However the reviews on trip advisor seem to back up my opinion on China Garden: http://www.tripadvis
or.co.uk/Restaurant_
Review-g186273-d7324
63-Reviews-China_Gar
den-Brighton_East_Su
ssex_England.html

Dim Sum anyone?
[quote][p][bold]Patsyr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: I find this article very worrying, poorly written to begin with. However, you refer to China China in Preston Street being fined, but picture China Garden? Did they also get prosecuted? Or is this a mistake? Very damaging to China Gardens reputation if a mistake. Please confirm which is which Argus please.[/p][/quote]What reputation do you think China Garden has got? I wouldn't eat there.[/p][/quote]I think they have a good reputation, and have done for the 30 years they've been open, dare i be so bold as to suggest they must be pretty good to last 30 years? This isn't about their quality of food anyway, its about a local paper mis representing and damaging local businesses through poor journalism. However the reviews on trip advisor seem to back up my opinion on China Garden: http://www.tripadvis or.co.uk/Restaurant_ Review-g186273-d7324 63-Reviews-China_Gar den-Brighton_East_Su ssex_England.html Dim Sum anyone? Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 6

3:47pm Wed 16 Jul 14

From beer to uncertainty says...

It cannot legally withhold the information unless it claims employing illegal immigrants to be a legitimate 'commercial interest.
The HMRC thus appears to supporting illegal commerci practises as long as it gets it's cut? Chilling.
It cannot legally withhold the information unless it claims employing illegal immigrants to be a legitimate 'commercial interest. The HMRC thus appears to supporting illegal commerci practises as long as it gets it's cut? Chilling. From beer to uncertainty
  • Score: 8

3:48pm Wed 16 Jul 14

peterthomas says...

stevo!! wrote:
notaconspiracy wrote:
Isn't this the same as you or I not having to go to court and be 'named and shamed' if we pay parking/speeding fines on schedule?
It's also yet another sign of the authorities pandering to the immigrants.

Situations like this increase anti-immigrant feeling because they show that immigrants have access to special treatment when it comes to breaking the law.
Its not pandering to immigrants it's being a soft touch limp wrist country that lets the bottom and top end walk free from any manner of misdemeanours and lets gullible "Middle England" the tab up!! Just accet that England is a spent force and look at a way to get out!!
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notaconspiracy[/bold] wrote: Isn't this the same as you or I not having to go to court and be 'named and shamed' if we pay parking/speeding fines on schedule?[/p][/quote]It's also yet another sign of the authorities pandering to the immigrants. Situations like this increase anti-immigrant feeling because they show that immigrants have access to special treatment when it comes to breaking the law.[/p][/quote]Its not pandering to immigrants it's being a soft touch limp wrist country that lets the bottom and top end walk free from any manner of misdemeanours and lets gullible "Middle England" the tab up!! Just accet that England is a spent force and look at a way to get out!! peterthomas
  • Score: 3

3:52pm Wed 16 Jul 14

maxiboy_ says...

The UKBA is a farce. Mass immigration is ongoing and the destruction of Britain and her native people is almost complete.
The UKBA is a farce. Mass immigration is ongoing and the destruction of Britain and her native people is almost complete. maxiboy_
  • Score: 0

3:58pm Wed 16 Jul 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

So basically if you don't want to support illegal immigration don't go to any foreign food restaurants or take aways.
So basically if you don't want to support illegal immigration don't go to any foreign food restaurants or take aways. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: 1

4:15pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Sussex jim says...

Mng*68 wrote:
Not surprised to read how easy a Country we are n not wishing to sound disrespectful to anyone - but since the benefit flood gates opened it appears we are a joke of a Country . In every aspect we just carry on n let situations go on n on. Then not just let traders do things non law abiding once but continuously. God help the shop keeper that sells alcohol to rough sleepers. His name is up in lights !!!! About time ENGLAND became GREAT again n started controlling our systems properly . We accept far more than any others . If you do WRONG ..stop the trader permanently ... Company house should state ceased trading for the true reasons . Fraud training should be on the up to those responsible at boarder control .
"Boarder" control? Is that something to do with stopping them climbing onto lorries at Calais?
[quote][p][bold]Mng*68[/bold] wrote: Not surprised to read how easy a Country we are n not wishing to sound disrespectful to anyone - but since the benefit flood gates opened it appears we are a joke of a Country . In every aspect we just carry on n let situations go on n on. Then not just let traders do things non law abiding once but continuously. God help the shop keeper that sells alcohol to rough sleepers. His name is up in lights !!!! About time ENGLAND became GREAT again n started controlling our systems properly . We accept far more than any others . If you do WRONG ..stop the trader permanently ... Company house should state ceased trading for the true reasons . Fraud training should be on the up to those responsible at boarder control .[/p][/quote]"Boarder" control? Is that something to do with stopping them climbing onto lorries at Calais? Sussex jim
  • Score: 6

4:46pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Withdean-er says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Cave Johnson wrote:
Can you rewrite this please? it is poorly written. Very poorly written. Also the artice references China China but the photo shows China Garden.
My point exactly, what awful journalism, and how outrageous for China Garden! I'd be going nuts if I was them
Would that be deep fried nuts with a black bean sauce, and flied lice?
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cave Johnson[/bold] wrote: Can you rewrite this please? it is poorly written. Very poorly written. Also the artice references China China but the photo shows China Garden.[/p][/quote]My point exactly, what awful journalism, and how outrageous for China Garden! I'd be going nuts if I was them[/p][/quote]Would that be deep fried nuts with a black bean sauce, and flied lice? Withdean-er
  • Score: 2

5:39pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Alan G Skinner says...

Interesting isn't it. We allow the owners of these restaurants permission to live in the UK and how do they replay us. They assist and encourage unlawful immigration, don't pay tax or national insurance, exploit their own people with slave wages and then are given special treatment by the Home Office as a reward for "complying" with their punishment. Astonishing!!!! It's not just the chef and waiter we need to worry about, its the multiplyer effect. At some point these people will access the NHS and almost certainly wont pay for it, they are taking jobs to which they have no entitlement, they are lining the pockets of landlords who buy up properties you and I would like for our families, which means we have to pay more to live in our own towns, then they will have children, then comes the council house, benefits, schooling etc etc. Lets not forget the unfair advantage the business owners have against British companies who pay their employees correctly and pay NI / Tax etc. The Home Office is far too weak. You need to take a hard line with these people, when Immigration find an Illegal in a company, make the person who employed them personally responsible and fine or imprison the individual. We are far to easy on Illegal Immigrants and that's why they bypass, Greece, Gemany, Italy, Spain, France etc etc to come here!! Enough is enough
Interesting isn't it. We allow the owners of these restaurants permission to live in the UK and how do they replay us. They assist and encourage unlawful immigration, don't pay tax or national insurance, exploit their own people with slave wages and then are given special treatment by the Home Office as a reward for "complying" with their punishment. Astonishing!!!! It's not just the chef and waiter we need to worry about, its the multiplyer effect. At some point these people will access the NHS and almost certainly wont pay for it, they are taking jobs to which they have no entitlement, they are lining the pockets of landlords who buy up properties you and I would like for our families, which means we have to pay more to live in our own towns, then they will have children, then comes the council house, benefits, schooling etc etc. Lets not forget the unfair advantage the business owners have against British companies who pay their employees correctly and pay NI / Tax etc. The Home Office is far too weak. You need to take a hard line with these people, when Immigration find an Illegal in a company, make the person who employed them personally responsible and fine or imprison the individual. We are far to easy on Illegal Immigrants and that's why they bypass, Greece, Gemany, Italy, Spain, France etc etc to come here!! Enough is enough Alan G Skinner
  • Score: 8

5:56pm Wed 16 Jul 14

chrismilo says...

Enough is enough Enoch Powell is turning over in his grave HE WAS RIGHT !
Enough is enough Enoch Powell is turning over in his grave HE WAS RIGHT ! chrismilo
  • Score: 3

5:59pm Wed 16 Jul 14

chrismilo says...

That was quick off a boat in Brighton Marina and into a Job most at least go into town and Claim benefits and apply for a council house first !
That was quick off a boat in Brighton Marina and into a Job most at least go into town and Claim benefits and apply for a council house first ! chrismilo
  • Score: 0

6:06pm Wed 16 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Alan G Skinner wrote:
Interesting isn't it. We allow the owners of these restaurants permission to live in the UK and how do they replay us. They assist and encourage unlawful immigration, don't pay tax or national insurance, exploit their own people with slave wages and then are given special treatment by the Home Office as a reward for "complying" with their punishment. Astonishing!!!! It's not just the chef and waiter we need to worry about, its the multiplyer effect. At some point these people will access the NHS and almost certainly wont pay for it, they are taking jobs to which they have no entitlement, they are lining the pockets of landlords who buy up properties you and I would like for our families, which means we have to pay more to live in our own towns, then they will have children, then comes the council house, benefits, schooling etc etc. Lets not forget the unfair advantage the business owners have against British companies who pay their employees correctly and pay NI / Tax etc. The Home Office is far too weak. You need to take a hard line with these people, when Immigration find an Illegal in a company, make the person who employed them personally responsible and fine or imprison the individual. We are far to easy on Illegal Immigrants and that's why they bypass, Greece, Gemany, Italy, Spain, France etc etc to come here!! Enough is enough
Spot on!

Stand by for accusations of 'racist!' from the thickos on here.
[quote][p][bold]Alan G Skinner[/bold] wrote: Interesting isn't it. We allow the owners of these restaurants permission to live in the UK and how do they replay us. They assist and encourage unlawful immigration, don't pay tax or national insurance, exploit their own people with slave wages and then are given special treatment by the Home Office as a reward for "complying" with their punishment. Astonishing!!!! It's not just the chef and waiter we need to worry about, its the multiplyer effect. At some point these people will access the NHS and almost certainly wont pay for it, they are taking jobs to which they have no entitlement, they are lining the pockets of landlords who buy up properties you and I would like for our families, which means we have to pay more to live in our own towns, then they will have children, then comes the council house, benefits, schooling etc etc. Lets not forget the unfair advantage the business owners have against British companies who pay their employees correctly and pay NI / Tax etc. The Home Office is far too weak. You need to take a hard line with these people, when Immigration find an Illegal in a company, make the person who employed them personally responsible and fine or imprison the individual. We are far to easy on Illegal Immigrants and that's why they bypass, Greece, Gemany, Italy, Spain, France etc etc to come here!! Enough is enough[/p][/quote]Spot on! Stand by for accusations of 'racist!' from the thickos on here. stevo!!
  • Score: -2

6:06pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Mng*68 says...

Sussex jim wrote:
Mng*68 wrote:
Not surprised to read how easy a Country we are n not wishing to sound disrespectful to anyone - but since the benefit flood gates opened it appears we are a joke of a Country . In every aspect we just carry on n let situations go on n on. Then not just let traders do things non law abiding once but continuously. God help the shop keeper that sells alcohol to rough sleepers. His name is up in lights !!!! About time ENGLAND became GREAT again n started controlling our systems properly . We accept far more than any others . If you do WRONG ..stop the trader permanently ... Company house should state ceased trading for the true reasons . Fraud training should be on the up to those responsible at boarder control .
"Boarder" control? Is that something to do with stopping them climbing onto lorries at Calais?
Seems that's their current position. Although I think they either haven't signed a JD or not been able to read it. Sure it come in multi languages so no excuse there.
[quote][p][bold]Sussex jim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mng*68[/bold] wrote: Not surprised to read how easy a Country we are n not wishing to sound disrespectful to anyone - but since the benefit flood gates opened it appears we are a joke of a Country . In every aspect we just carry on n let situations go on n on. Then not just let traders do things non law abiding once but continuously. God help the shop keeper that sells alcohol to rough sleepers. His name is up in lights !!!! About time ENGLAND became GREAT again n started controlling our systems properly . We accept far more than any others . If you do WRONG ..stop the trader permanently ... Company house should state ceased trading for the true reasons . Fraud training should be on the up to those responsible at boarder control .[/p][/quote]"Boarder" control? Is that something to do with stopping them climbing onto lorries at Calais?[/p][/quote]Seems that's their current position. Although I think they either haven't signed a JD or not been able to read it. Sure it come in multi languages so no excuse there. Mng*68
  • Score: 0

11:37pm Wed 16 Jul 14

hubby says...

Shut them down.
Send them back.
Shut them down. Send them back. hubby
  • Score: 4

12:07am Thu 17 Jul 14

Roundbill says...

Given the fact that the people who write for the Argus clearly don't have English as a first language, can we assume that Newsquest Media is one of the companies in question?
Given the fact that the people who write for the Argus clearly don't have English as a first language, can we assume that Newsquest Media is one of the companies in question? Roundbill
  • Score: 6

10:57am Thu 17 Jul 14

John Steed says...

and how many of the fines have been paid??? they should check all fast food outlets for compliance for payment of correct minimum wages rates
and how many of the fines have been paid??? they should check all fast food outlets for compliance for payment of correct minimum wages rates John Steed
  • Score: 0

11:26am Thu 17 Jul 14

Cave Johnson says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Cave Johnson wrote:
Can you rewrite this please? it is poorly written. Very poorly written. Also the artice references China China but the photo shows China Garden.
My point exactly, what awful journalism, and how outrageous for China Garden! I'd be going nuts if I was them
I didn't see your comment but we posted almost the exact same thing :)
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cave Johnson[/bold] wrote: Can you rewrite this please? it is poorly written. Very poorly written. Also the artice references China China but the photo shows China Garden.[/p][/quote]My point exactly, what awful journalism, and how outrageous for China Garden! I'd be going nuts if I was them[/p][/quote]I didn't see your comment but we posted almost the exact same thing :) Cave Johnson
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12:15pm Thu 17 Jul 14

rexrex says...

and roll out the bigots,racists,xenop
hobic armchair/keyboard warriors...... Sussex seems to be full of nutjob UKIP voters who aren't confident enough (or too ashamed of themselves?) to vote for nationalist/neo nazi political party's.. gawd help us.....
and roll out the bigots,racists,xenop hobic armchair/keyboard warriors...... Sussex seems to be full of nutjob UKIP voters who aren't confident enough (or too ashamed of themselves?) to vote for nationalist/neo nazi political party's.. gawd help us..... rexrex
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