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Historic Brighton Hippodrome is set to become a eight screen cinema complex following city council planners approval

The Argus: Artists impressions of the Vue cinema in the Hippodrome building Artists impressions of the Vue cinema in the Hippodrome building

Developers have moved a step closer to converting a historic theatre into an eight screen cinema complex.

Brighton and Hove City Council‘s planning committee voted eight to four in favour of plans to convert the famous Brighton Hippodrome.

A last minute move by committee chair Phelim MacCafferty to defer the decision was rejected by fellow committee members.

However, the decision can still be called in by the Secretary of State. A decision on that process will be made in a matter of weeks.

Members of the Our Brighton Hippodrome campaign, who want the site retained for live performances, said they will lobby the secretary of state.

Councillors at the planning meeting this afternoon criticised the modern-design of the glass fronted extensions to the proposed cinema, claiming it was out-of-keeping with the area.

But they feared that without the cinema the famed grade II* listed building which once hosted the Rolling Stones, the Beatles and Max Miller would be lost completely.

Green councillor Ian Davey supported the proposal, saying the redevelopment would “halt the decline” of the building and the area around Ship Street and Middle Street.

Conservative councillor Geoff Wells said he feared if the proposal was rejected now, it would be another seven years for another valid proposal and by that time the Hippodrome would be “beyond repair”.

David Fisher, of Our Brighton Hippodrome, said they were “disappointed but not entirely downhearted”.

 

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4:09pm Wed 16 Jul 14

jo_brown says...

Fantastic news!! Long live the Hippodrome!
Fantastic news!! Long live the Hippodrome! jo_brown
  • Score: 5

4:16pm Wed 16 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

Imagine what a resource it could have been ( with an ice rink ) for the people of the city if we had only loaned the company developing it several million pounds. That could never happpen could it? Instead we get a ring on a stick, thanks Jason. @gzunder
Imagine what a resource it could have been ( with an ice rink ) for the people of the city if we had only loaned the company developing it several million pounds. That could never happpen could it? Instead we get a ring on a stick, thanks Jason. @gzunder We love Red Billy
  • Score: 11

4:24pm Wed 16 Jul 14

blinky_b says...

You are joking right? How is the hippodrome in any way being reserved being converted into a multiscreen cinema complex, we have only just had a cinema added to the Komedia (which is fanstic might I add) why do we need another cinema?! We already have the Duke of York, The Dukes at the Komedia, The Odeon and Cineworld....why oh why do we need more cinemas! How can a petition that has gathered 11,584 signitures go ignored. It is disgusting!
You are joking right? How is the hippodrome in any way being reserved being converted into a multiscreen cinema complex, we have only just had a cinema added to the Komedia (which is fanstic might I add) why do we need another cinema?! We already have the Duke of York, The Dukes at the Komedia, The Odeon and Cineworld....why oh why do we need more cinemas! How can a petition that has gathered 11,584 signitures go ignored. It is disgusting! blinky_b
  • Score: 30

4:46pm Wed 16 Jul 14

spurious warnings says...

-oh what? This smacks of some inside deal with the developers and the council. This council is so corrupt!
Hope somebody does searches of the developers and the committee, I bet there's some link.
Just what we need.... another ugly multiplex.
I for one will not be using it then.
-oh what? This smacks of some inside deal with the developers and the council. This council is so corrupt! Hope somebody does searches of the developers and the committee, I bet there's some link. Just what we need.... another ugly multiplex. I for one will not be using it then. spurious warnings
  • Score: 14

4:47pm Wed 16 Jul 14

FC says...

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO FC
  • Score: 15

4:50pm Wed 16 Jul 14

kopite_rob says...

Isn't the developer Indigo, who seem to have a monopoly on entertainement sites in B&H already.
This is the same Indigo that has recently fallen foul of licensing inspectors for running poor operations at many of there drinking establishments.
The City already has the Odeon seafront multiplex, the Cineworld marina multiplex, Komedia & Duke of Yorks.
This in light of a downturn in cinema audiences globally.4th of July openings were at an historic low.
A theatre option could have opened up the Hippodrome to many other alternative uses also.
Does Brighton really need another Cinema complex?
I guess money really does talk.
Isn't the developer Indigo, who seem to have a monopoly on entertainement sites in B&H already. This is the same Indigo that has recently fallen foul of licensing inspectors for running poor operations at many of there drinking establishments. The City already has the Odeon seafront multiplex, the Cineworld marina multiplex, Komedia & Duke of Yorks. This in light of a downturn in cinema audiences globally.4th of July openings were at an historic low. A theatre option could have opened up the Hippodrome to many other alternative uses also. Does Brighton really need another Cinema complex? I guess money really does talk. kopite_rob
  • Score: 10

5:04pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Time to move says...

What Brighton really needs is a music venue bigger than the Dome for current bands - an equivalent to Brixton Academy. The Brighton Centre is appalling and the Dome is better for more refined performances. As a decent music venue for more current bands the Hippodrome could stay exactly as it is.
What Brighton really needs is a music venue bigger than the Dome for current bands - an equivalent to Brixton Academy. The Brighton Centre is appalling and the Dome is better for more refined performances. As a decent music venue for more current bands the Hippodrome could stay exactly as it is. Time to move
  • Score: 35

5:05pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Notters_Seagull says...

It should be a music venue / theatre, not another bloody cinema. Thank you moaning local residents.
It should be a music venue / theatre, not another bloody cinema. Thank you moaning local residents. Notters_Seagull
  • Score: 15

5:08pm Wed 16 Jul 14

peteb21 says...

This is only marginally better, by no more than a couple of nanometres, than the building being left empty.

I can think of a myriad of significantly better options than a cinema complex!
This is only marginally better, by no more than a couple of nanometres, than the building being left empty. I can think of a myriad of significantly better options than a cinema complex! peteb21
  • Score: 3

5:09pm Wed 16 Jul 14

peteb21 says...

Time to move wrote:
What Brighton really needs is a music venue bigger than the Dome for current bands - an equivalent to Brixton Academy. The Brighton Centre is appalling and the Dome is better for more refined performances. As a decent music venue for more current bands the Hippodrome could stay exactly as it is.
+∞
[quote][p][bold]Time to move[/bold] wrote: What Brighton really needs is a music venue bigger than the Dome for current bands - an equivalent to Brixton Academy. The Brighton Centre is appalling and the Dome is better for more refined performances. As a decent music venue for more current bands the Hippodrome could stay exactly as it is.[/p][/quote]+∞ peteb21
  • Score: 2

6:09pm Wed 16 Jul 14

NathanAdler says...

We do not need another blooming cinema!!!

But this is after all a Green council of hate, and as per usual, they will not listen to people who were in this city (nee town) before most of them were even born.

If they turn this in to a cinema, it will be the death knell for the odeon and the Marina will suffer massively.

The Marina has the potential of being great, but to be honest it's a bit naff. Invest in the Marina, not this!

Kitkat, you are a pee-smelling fool!!
We do not need another blooming cinema!!! But this is after all a Green council of hate, and as per usual, they will not listen to people who were in this city (nee town) before most of them were even born. If they turn this in to a cinema, it will be the death knell for the odeon and the Marina will suffer massively. The Marina has the potential of being great, but to be honest it's a bit naff. Invest in the Marina, not this! Kitkat, you are a pee-smelling fool!! NathanAdler
  • Score: 11

6:38pm Wed 16 Jul 14

gazzamagoo says...

I hope there will be an opportunity for residents to vote against it? Brighton does NOT need another cinema!
I hope there will be an opportunity for residents to vote against it? Brighton does NOT need another cinema! gazzamagoo
  • Score: 5

6:57pm Wed 16 Jul 14

quedula says...

Brighton actually has less cinemas per head of population than other cities. Vue thinks its scheme to provide 8 extra screens and 4 restaurants is financially viable and the independent district valuer has examined the plans and agrees.

The Council is reactive, not proactive, and when submitted with a planning application has to consider it on its merits or reject it. If it reject its it has to provide sound reasons or be in breach of the law. Just hoping that some better plans come along in due course would NOT be a sound reason
Brighton actually has less cinemas per head of population than other cities. Vue thinks its scheme to provide 8 extra screens and 4 restaurants is financially viable and the independent district valuer has examined the plans and agrees. The Council is reactive, not proactive, and when submitted with a planning application has to consider it on its merits or reject it. If it reject its it has to provide sound reasons or be in breach of the law. Just hoping that some better plans come along in due course would NOT be a sound reason quedula
  • Score: 10

8:33pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Falmer Wizard says...

Would any of the council members who voted for this scheme invest in it?????????????
Would any of the council members who voted for this scheme invest in it????????????? Falmer Wizard
  • Score: -3

8:47pm Wed 16 Jul 14

MikeTheKnight says...

I'm surprised tesco didn't want to turn it into a metro
I'm surprised tesco didn't want to turn it into a metro MikeTheKnight
  • Score: 2

9:11pm Wed 16 Jul 14

keswick says...

NathanAdler wrote:
We do not need another blooming cinema!!!

But this is after all a Green council of hate, and as per usual, they will not listen to people who were in this city (nee town) before most of them were even born.

If they turn this in to a cinema, it will be the death knell for the odeon and the Marina will suffer massively.

The Marina has the potential of being great, but to be honest it's a bit naff. Invest in the Marina, not this!

Kitkat, you are a pee-smelling fool!!
Not only before they were born but before they lived here. How many Green councillors are Brighton born and bred ?
[quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: We do not need another blooming cinema!!! But this is after all a Green council of hate, and as per usual, they will not listen to people who were in this city (nee town) before most of them were even born. If they turn this in to a cinema, it will be the death knell for the odeon and the Marina will suffer massively. The Marina has the potential of being great, but to be honest it's a bit naff. Invest in the Marina, not this! Kitkat, you are a pee-smelling fool!![/p][/quote]Not only before they were born but before they lived here. How many Green councillors are Brighton born and bred ? keswick
  • Score: 0

9:33pm Wed 16 Jul 14

quedula says...

NathanAdler wrote:
We do not need another blooming cinema!!!

But this is after all a Green council of hate, and as per usual, they will not listen to people who were in this city (nee town) before most of them were even born.

If they turn this in to a cinema, it will be the death knell for the odeon and the Marina will suffer massively.

The Marina has the potential of being great, but to be honest it's a bit naff. Invest in the Marina, not this!

Kitkat, you are a pee-smelling fool!!
The Council haven't "invested" in the Hippodrome. They've granted a planning application. And Cr. Kitkat isn't on the Planning Committee.
[quote][p][bold]NathanAdler[/bold] wrote: We do not need another blooming cinema!!! But this is after all a Green council of hate, and as per usual, they will not listen to people who were in this city (nee town) before most of them were even born. If they turn this in to a cinema, it will be the death knell for the odeon and the Marina will suffer massively. The Marina has the potential of being great, but to be honest it's a bit naff. Invest in the Marina, not this! Kitkat, you are a pee-smelling fool!![/p][/quote]The Council haven't "invested" in the Hippodrome. They've granted a planning application. And Cr. Kitkat isn't on the Planning Committee. quedula
  • Score: 11

10:41pm Wed 16 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

"Green councillor Ian Davey supported the proposal, saying the redevelopment would “halt the decline” of the building and the area around Ship Street and Middle Street. "

What 'decline'?

Does every street have to resemble a self-contained town?

Jeez.....
"Green councillor Ian Davey supported the proposal, saying the redevelopment would “halt the decline” of the building and the area around Ship Street and Middle Street. " What 'decline'? Does every street have to resemble a self-contained town? Jeez..... stevo!!
  • Score: 3

11:26pm Wed 16 Jul 14

sussexfoz says...

Notters_Seagull wrote:
It should be a music venue / theatre, not another bloody cinema. Thank you moaning local residents.
Can't be used as a music venue most of the load in space has been sold off and houses built on land and a bloody great wall has been built no way to get a 30 ton truck in.the neighbours would never put up with noise of show load ins or load outs sorry nice thought but it would never work,i have 30 years of experience in the world of live music and would love to see it used for music but it would never work
[quote][p][bold]Notters_Seagull[/bold] wrote: It should be a music venue / theatre, not another bloody cinema. Thank you moaning local residents.[/p][/quote]Can't be used as a music venue most of the load in space has been sold off and houses built on land and a bloody great wall has been built no way to get a 30 ton truck in.the neighbours would never put up with noise of show load ins or load outs sorry nice thought but it would never work,i have 30 years of experience in the world of live music and would love to see it used for music but it would never work sussexfoz
  • Score: 11

11:31pm Wed 16 Jul 14

notaconspiracy says...

In the 1980s, when I was a student, I worked in the Mecca bingo hall in the Hippodrome. The point is, even then, it had failed as a theatre.

If other posters are right, saying another cinema isn't needed, then I can only see this building becoming a supermarket or a block of flats.

To be honest, I think hardly anyone walks past this, or would really care about this building's future if the Argus hadn't published this article.
In the 1980s, when I was a student, I worked in the Mecca bingo hall in the Hippodrome. The point is, even then, it had failed as a theatre. If other posters are right, saying another cinema isn't needed, then I can only see this building becoming a supermarket or a block of flats. To be honest, I think hardly anyone walks past this, or would really care about this building's future if the Argus hadn't published this article. notaconspiracy
  • Score: 6

11:56pm Wed 16 Jul 14

Valerie Paynter says...

There were doubts from the planning Chair Cllr MacCafferty that the Vue cinemas would survive. What has been understood is that millions of Pounds of restoration work is going to secure the bldg for a future user should this venture not survive. A step towards the future that nobody else has been prepared to sink £15-20m into.

Cllr Mike Jones feared another West Pier if the opportunity was not taken and Cllr Hyde sees this as one more change of use in a history of changes for the hippodrome.

It now has a future. It was made clear that the opponents had not demonstrated they had the money to realise their plans and that the hippodrome cannot be dscribed as a theatre as it only had that use very briefly.

In 1966 it was used for TV recording purposes and I see a future for it being used to house local TV and for other broadcasting/video/p
erformance/radioppod
rome consent/news stuff in the future. An all cinemas/restaurants use is not imaginative. It is a template corporate thing from a firm with Alaska in its name.
There were doubts from the planning Chair Cllr MacCafferty that the Vue cinemas would survive. What has been understood is that millions of Pounds of restoration work is going to secure the bldg for a future user should this venture not survive. A step towards the future that nobody else has been prepared to sink £15-20m into. Cllr Mike Jones feared another West Pier if the opportunity was not taken and Cllr Hyde sees this as one more change of use in a history of changes for the hippodrome. It now has a future. It was made clear that the opponents had not demonstrated they had the money to realise their plans and that the hippodrome cannot be dscribed as a theatre as it only had that use very briefly. In 1966 it was used for TV recording purposes and I see a future for it being used to house local TV and for other broadcasting/video/p erformance/radioppod rome consent/news stuff in the future. An all cinemas/restaurants use is not imaginative. It is a template corporate thing from a firm with Alaska in its name. Valerie Paynter
  • Score: 0

12:03am Thu 17 Jul 14

Valerie Paynter says...

What is disturbing about the plans is impact on Dukes Lane and other nearby residents. A huge footfall change to a quiet area will also see 2am closing time every night and 3am Saturday night/Sunday morning and that is enormous.
What is disturbing about the plans is impact on Dukes Lane and other nearby residents. A huge footfall change to a quiet area will also see 2am closing time every night and 3am Saturday night/Sunday morning and that is enormous. Valerie Paynter
  • Score: -3

6:54am Thu 17 Jul 14

hoggleboggle says...

Time to move wrote:
What Brighton really needs is a music venue bigger than the Dome for current bands - an equivalent to Brixton Academy. The Brighton Centre is appalling and the Dome is better for more refined performances. As a decent music venue for more current bands the Hippodrome could stay exactly as it is.
The hippodrome is actually currently owned by the people who run the Brixton academy who tried for years to do just that but we're unable to
[quote][p][bold]Time to move[/bold] wrote: What Brighton really needs is a music venue bigger than the Dome for current bands - an equivalent to Brixton Academy. The Brighton Centre is appalling and the Dome is better for more refined performances. As a decent music venue for more current bands the Hippodrome could stay exactly as it is.[/p][/quote]The hippodrome is actually currently owned by the people who run the Brixton academy who tried for years to do just that but we're unable to hoggleboggle
  • Score: 5

11:13am Thu 17 Jul 14

downbythesea says...

Valerie Paynter wrote:
What is disturbing about the plans is impact on Dukes Lane and other nearby residents. A huge footfall change to a quiet area will also see 2am closing time every night and 3am Saturday night/Sunday morning and that is enormous.
Rubbish!

It's an 8 screen cinema development, they don't show films till 2am / 3am.

Restaurants also generally have last orders for food before 11pm, so where do you get this open till 2am or 3am at weekends from.

And it is NOT a quiet area round there late at night when you are no doubt tucked up in bed, I am often in that area midnight onwards, and see LOTS of people.

Perhaps you can stop trying to save everything, and just saveHove and stay away from us, or try saving your local hometown in Canada.

I know lots of people who are fed up of saveHove (Nimbys) however needed/important you feel you are.
[quote][p][bold]Valerie Paynter[/bold] wrote: What is disturbing about the plans is impact on Dukes Lane and other nearby residents. A huge footfall change to a quiet area will also see 2am closing time every night and 3am Saturday night/Sunday morning and that is enormous.[/p][/quote]Rubbish! It's an 8 screen cinema development, they don't show films till 2am / 3am. Restaurants also generally have last orders for food before 11pm, so where do you get this open till 2am or 3am at weekends from. And it is NOT a quiet area round there late at night when you are no doubt tucked up in bed, I am often in that area midnight onwards, and see LOTS of people. Perhaps you can stop trying to save everything, and just saveHove and stay away from us, or try saving your local hometown in Canada. I know lots of people who are fed up of saveHove (Nimbys) however needed/important you feel you are. downbythesea
  • Score: 5

1:22pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Mark63 says...

Here's hoping its a step up from the Marina with its surly disinterested staff and grubby interior, and the Odean with its grubby exterior and higgeldy-piggeldy interior....
Here's hoping its a step up from the Marina with its surly disinterested staff and grubby interior, and the Odean with its grubby exterior and higgeldy-piggeldy interior.... Mark63
  • Score: 3

4:20pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Hoarder12345444 says...

Mark63 wrote:
Here's hoping its a step up from the Marina with its surly disinterested staff and grubby interior, and the Odean with its grubby exterior and higgeldy-piggeldy interior....
The Marina is brilliant always go there and have a monthly pass. And the free parking. It looks fine and just underwent a re-fit as well.
[quote][p][bold]Mark63[/bold] wrote: Here's hoping its a step up from the Marina with its surly disinterested staff and grubby interior, and the Odean with its grubby exterior and higgeldy-piggeldy interior....[/p][/quote]The Marina is brilliant always go there and have a monthly pass. And the free parking. It looks fine and just underwent a re-fit as well. Hoarder12345444
  • Score: 0

5:41am Fri 18 Jul 14

jimthedoorman says...

Valerie Paynter wrote:
What is disturbing about the plans is impact on Dukes Lane and other nearby residents. A huge footfall change to a quiet area will also see 2am closing time every night and 3am Saturday night/Sunday morning and that is enormous.
Rather unsurprisingly, I'm a doorman. I worked down Middle Street for years and the general footfall that you have failed to grasp is that there are late bars and clubs down the SAME STREET and they're doing just fine. Not to mention the 24 hour Buddies on the seafront around the corner, all of which take a zero tolerance attitude to any rowdy / ott groups or individuals like we **** well should do.
I very much doubt that, at least after renovation, that the residents of nearby streets will not feel any impact as a result of the redevelopment. At least no more than a usual weekend night.

Also, how many people do you think this new complex will hold to justify your comment of "A huge footfall change"? You've clearly done your research to be able to make such a striking statement, or are you just one of those natural born moaners that don't like being told no?
[quote][p][bold]Valerie Paynter[/bold] wrote: What is disturbing about the plans is impact on Dukes Lane and other nearby residents. A huge footfall change to a quiet area will also see 2am closing time every night and 3am Saturday night/Sunday morning and that is enormous.[/p][/quote]Rather unsurprisingly, I'm a doorman. I worked down Middle Street for years and the general footfall that you have failed to grasp is that there are late bars and clubs down the SAME STREET and they're doing just fine. Not to mention the 24 hour Buddies on the seafront around the corner, all of which take a zero tolerance attitude to any rowdy / ott groups or individuals like we **** well should do. I very much doubt that, at least after renovation, that the residents of nearby streets will not feel any impact as a result of the redevelopment. At least no more than a usual weekend night. Also, how many people do you think this new complex will hold to justify your comment of "A huge footfall change"? You've clearly done your research to be able to make such a striking statement, or are you just one of those natural born moaners that don't like being told no? jimthedoorman
  • Score: -1
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