Councillers urged not to back A27 action group

Congestion on the A27 at Worthing

Congestion on the A27 at Worthing

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Environmental and cycling groups are calling on councillors not to back a new road building campaign.

Brighton and Hove Friends of the Earth and Bricycles are both calling on Brighton and Hove City councillors to reject a notice to support the newly formed A27 Action Campaign at tomorrow’s council meeting.

The proposal has been put forward by Conservative group leader Geoffrey Theobald for the city council to join numerous other local authorities in backing the new campaign.

A27 Action was launched last month to put pressure on the Government to fund improvements to ease traffic around Chichester, Arundel and Worthing.

Coun Theobald in proposing the motion said that Brighton and Hove City Council would add “considerable weight” to the campaign.

But Brighton and Hove Friends Of The Earth say that increasing capacity of the A27 would be extremely costly.

They also said it would not be in the interests of residents and the city and are sceptical that the road building would boost economic growth.

Chris Todd from the group said that much of the traffic on the A27 is local traffic and required local transport solutions not big new roads.

The campaigner added: “Many councillors spent years supporting the creation of the South Downs National Park.

“Now they risk throwing much of that away if they support the A27 Action Campaign.

“This group’s aim to see the A27 dualled along its whole length would be extremely costly economically and environmentally.

“If successful, it could then lead to more road building around Brighton and Hove and cause huge damage to the South Downs.”

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11:39am Thu 17 Jul 14

Martha Gunn says...

Seems the work experience sub-editors are back - 'Councillers'!!!
Seems the work experience sub-editors are back - 'Councillers'!!! Martha Gunn
  • Score: 7

11:53am Thu 17 Jul 14

Fight_Back says...

What on earth has the A27 around those towns got to do with two Brighton based groups ? The A27 in those areas needs improvement - it needs what was proposed decades ago - a Kent to Cornwall coast road. Nobody is going to cycle from Brighton to say Bognor so Bricycles should keep their noses out.
What on earth has the A27 around those towns got to do with two Brighton based groups ? The A27 in those areas needs improvement - it needs what was proposed decades ago - a Kent to Cornwall coast road. Nobody is going to cycle from Brighton to say Bognor so Bricycles should keep their noses out. Fight_Back
  • Score: 35

12:16pm Thu 17 Jul 14

bensmiths says...

Nothing pees me off more then sitting in traffic at Arundel and looking at a half built bypass.
Nothing pees me off more then sitting in traffic at Arundel and looking at a half built bypass. bensmiths
  • Score: 31

12:21pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Martin999 says...

What a load if luddites! Imagine the traffic situation if there were no by-pass at Arundel and Chichester. I am in favour of by-passes around towns and villages. To see the effect look at Steyning, now a lovely village. Before they built a by-pass it was hell. Ditchling village is another that has been crying out for a by -pass for years, one of the prettiest villages in Sussex, spoiled by traffic gridlock all day long. Bring on the by-passes! Worthing needs it.
What a load if luddites! Imagine the traffic situation if there were no by-pass at Arundel and Chichester. I am in favour of by-passes around towns and villages. To see the effect look at Steyning, now a lovely village. Before they built a by-pass it was hell. Ditchling village is another that has been crying out for a by -pass for years, one of the prettiest villages in Sussex, spoiled by traffic gridlock all day long. Bring on the by-passes! Worthing needs it. Martin999
  • Score: 35

12:28pm Thu 17 Jul 14

spa301 says...

Fight_Back wrote:
What on earth has the A27 around those towns got to do with two Brighton based groups ? The A27 in those areas needs improvement - it needs what was proposed decades ago - a Kent to Cornwall coast road. Nobody is going to cycle from Brighton to say Bognor so Bricycles should keep their noses out.
Couldn't agree more. This has been needed for years and will boost the local economies, reduce emission pollution and the blight on those living near these notorious log jams. This is a primarily a Worthing/Arundel issue and does not need the input of the pathetic Brighton eco-nerds and their happy clappy ways.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: What on earth has the A27 around those towns got to do with two Brighton based groups ? The A27 in those areas needs improvement - it needs what was proposed decades ago - a Kent to Cornwall coast road. Nobody is going to cycle from Brighton to say Bognor so Bricycles should keep their noses out.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. This has been needed for years and will boost the local economies, reduce emission pollution and the blight on those living near these notorious log jams. This is a primarily a Worthing/Arundel issue and does not need the input of the pathetic Brighton eco-nerds and their happy clappy ways. spa301
  • Score: 27

12:50pm Thu 17 Jul 14

fredaj says...

These comments from Chris Todd are exactly what you would expect as he is involved in a nationwide anti-technology campaign group but Bricycles? It has nothing whatsoever to do with Bricycles.

And nothing to do with B&H come to that, given all the problem spots - Lancing/Worthing/Aru
ndel/Chichester, to name a few, are well outside their border. B&H already has a bypass and a decent bit of road it is too.
These comments from Chris Todd are exactly what you would expect as he is involved in a nationwide anti-technology campaign group but Bricycles? It has nothing whatsoever to do with Bricycles. And nothing to do with B&H come to that, given all the problem spots - Lancing/Worthing/Aru ndel/Chichester, to name a few, are well outside their border. B&H already has a bypass and a decent bit of road it is too. fredaj
  • Score: 20

12:57pm Thu 17 Jul 14

rolivan says...

spa301 wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
What on earth has the A27 around those towns got to do with two Brighton based groups ? The A27 in those areas needs improvement - it needs what was proposed decades ago - a Kent to Cornwall coast road. Nobody is going to cycle from Brighton to say Bognor so Bricycles should keep their noses out.
Couldn't agree more. This has been needed for years and will boost the local economies, reduce emission pollution and the blight on those living near these notorious log jams. This is a primarily a Worthing/Arundel issue and does not need the input of the pathetic Brighton eco-nerds and their happy clappy ways.
What has Bricycles got to do with the A27 ,perhaps now that the not to be confused A270 has been been made "cycle friendly" they want to put their spoke in elsewhere,there are already cycle lanes going to Lewes on the A27 so I do not see what the problem for them is.
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: What on earth has the A27 around those towns got to do with two Brighton based groups ? The A27 in those areas needs improvement - it needs what was proposed decades ago - a Kent to Cornwall coast road. Nobody is going to cycle from Brighton to say Bognor so Bricycles should keep their noses out.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. This has been needed for years and will boost the local economies, reduce emission pollution and the blight on those living near these notorious log jams. This is a primarily a Worthing/Arundel issue and does not need the input of the pathetic Brighton eco-nerds and their happy clappy ways.[/p][/quote]What has Bricycles got to do with the A27 ,perhaps now that the not to be confused A270 has been been made "cycle friendly" they want to put their spoke in elsewhere,there are already cycle lanes going to Lewes on the A27 so I do not see what the problem for them is. rolivan
  • Score: 20

1:17pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Mark63 says...

About time this was sorted... Would the NIMBYS prefer that the congestion and associated issued with that got worse and worse instead? So short sited. Think of future generations who will need to get about unheeded - I wouldn't mind a bit of that too while I;m still here!
About time this was sorted... Would the NIMBYS prefer that the congestion and associated issued with that got worse and worse instead? So short sited. Think of future generations who will need to get about unheeded - I wouldn't mind a bit of that too while I;m still here! Mark63
  • Score: 11

1:58pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Martin999 says...

bensmiths wrote:
Nothing pees me off more then sitting in traffic at Arundel and looking at a half built bypass.
Yes, it's a pity they didn't bother to finish the existing by-pass at Arundel. The land is there, and no houses to demolish. Just add it to the many things in life that I don't understand.
[quote][p][bold]bensmiths[/bold] wrote: Nothing pees me off more then sitting in traffic at Arundel and looking at a half built bypass.[/p][/quote]Yes, it's a pity they didn't bother to finish the existing by-pass at Arundel. The land is there, and no houses to demolish. Just add it to the many things in life that I don't understand. Martin999
  • Score: 11

2:01pm Thu 17 Jul 14

RobO. says...

So all the cars sitting in jams at the moment pumping out exhaust fumes aren't damaging the environment?
So all the cars sitting in jams at the moment pumping out exhaust fumes aren't damaging the environment? RobO.
  • Score: 12

2:05pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Martin999 says...

RobO. wrote:
So all the cars sitting in jams at the moment pumping out exhaust fumes aren't damaging the environment?
Yes of course they are. Even more reason to keep them as far away from town centres as possible. That's what by-passes do.
[quote][p][bold]RobO.[/bold] wrote: So all the cars sitting in jams at the moment pumping out exhaust fumes aren't damaging the environment?[/p][/quote]Yes of course they are. Even more reason to keep them as far away from town centres as possible. That's what by-passes do. Martin999
  • Score: 12

2:17pm Thu 17 Jul 14

rolivan says...

I am sure there used to be signs up when work was first carried out on tge A27 Honiton to Folkestone by pass that was 50 years ago and still it isn't finished . You have Southampton Portsmouth Newhaven and Dover all ports that have goods being exported and imported and all you have is a small stretch of motorway and single lane traffic in lots of places.
I am sure there used to be signs up when work was first carried out on tge A27 Honiton to Folkestone by pass that was 50 years ago and still it isn't finished . You have Southampton Portsmouth Newhaven and Dover all ports that have goods being exported and imported and all you have is a small stretch of motorway and single lane traffic in lots of places. rolivan
  • Score: 4

2:27pm Thu 17 Jul 14

RobO. says...

Martin999 wrote:
RobO. wrote:
So all the cars sitting in jams at the moment pumping out exhaust fumes aren't damaging the environment?
Yes of course they are. Even more reason to keep them as far away from town centres as possible. That's what by-passes do.
My point entirely - let's make it a dual carriageway to keep the traffic moving!
[quote][p][bold]Martin999[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RobO.[/bold] wrote: So all the cars sitting in jams at the moment pumping out exhaust fumes aren't damaging the environment?[/p][/quote]Yes of course they are. Even more reason to keep them as far away from town centres as possible. That's what by-passes do.[/p][/quote]My point entirely - let's make it a dual carriageway to keep the traffic moving! RobO.
  • Score: 9

5:47pm Thu 17 Jul 14

NickBrt says...

Quick Caroline, go sit in the middle of the road - MORE pictures!
Quick Caroline, go sit in the middle of the road - MORE pictures! NickBrt
  • Score: 8

6:31pm Thu 17 Jul 14

76robmac says...

A bypass can be a good move but unfortunately by not looking at the forward result can cause even more problems ,just look at the Falmer road going through Woodingdean and Rottingdean also a lot more London traffic come this way due to the London Road bus lane
A bypass can be a good move but unfortunately by not looking at the forward result can cause even more problems ,just look at the Falmer road going through Woodingdean and Rottingdean also a lot more London traffic come this way due to the London Road bus lane 76robmac
  • Score: -1

7:41pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Gribbet says...

Petrolhead default solution to problem - move it somewhere else where you can't see it.
Petrolhead default solution to problem - move it somewhere else where you can't see it. Gribbet
  • Score: -10

7:01am Fri 18 Jul 14

Plantpot says...

A lack of infrastructure is holding back the South Coast economically. Of course a proper East-West road is needed from Land's End to Dover.
A lack of infrastructure is holding back the South Coast economically. Of course a proper East-West road is needed from Land's End to Dover. Plantpot
  • Score: 4

7:59am Fri 18 Jul 14

Made In Sussex says...

Brighton and Hove Friends of the Earth, Bricycles and Chris Todd please stay out of it!!!!! Brighton and Hove councillors can make up their own minds.

How many of you actually live in the areas worse affected like Worthing, Arundel and Chichester. How many of you have a job where the distance involved means cycling is not a practical option? Please put forward something other than your own selfish narrow minded agendas.

Where is you evidence that the scheme and the Southdown's National Park cannot coexist?
Brighton and Hove Friends of the Earth, Bricycles and Chris Todd please stay out of it!!!!! Brighton and Hove councillors can make up their own minds. How many of you actually live in the areas worse affected like Worthing, Arundel and Chichester. How many of you have a job where the distance involved means cycling is not a practical option? Please put forward something other than your own selfish narrow minded agendas. Where is you evidence that the scheme and the Southdown's National Park cannot coexist? Made In Sussex
  • Score: 8

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