Growth in tourism in Brighton and Hove is triple that of rivals

Sunbathers make the most of the hot weather by laying out on the beach in Worthing. Picture: Tony Wood (tw170714a3)

Sunbathers make the most of the hot weather by laying out on the beach in Worthing. Picture: Tony Wood (tw170714a3)

First published in News by , Business editor

SEASIDE tourism in Brighton and Hove has defied the recession and grown at nearly triple the rate of its nearest rival.

Thousands of new jobs were created in the sector since 2008, bringing the total to 15,200 in the greater city region.

Indirect tourism jobs are estimated at 38,000 – around 25% of the working population.

The city has the second biggest seaside tourism sector in the country behind Blackpool, according to the study by Sheffield Hallam University.

But while Blackpool shed 3,200 jobs during recession, Brighton and Hove created 3,300. Elsewhere Eastbourne has 4,000 tourism jobs, Hastings and Bexhill have 3,200 and Greater Worthing 1,700.

Researchers describe the view of UK seaside tourism in terminal decline due to cheap air travel as “far from accurate”.

The report forecasts a viable long-term future for tourism “if handled appropriately”.

Tony Mernagh, executive director of Brighton and Hove’s economic partnership, said: “Most seaside towns have adapted to a completely different market – the short break or the day trip, or in the case of Brighton, the business tourist.

“Of the three, the business tourist is the most lucrative, followed by the short break.

“These have easily compensated for the loss of traditional bucket and spade holidays, and combined with a thriving night-time economy, Brighton is much in demand.

“Now we have to take the jobs in the hospitality sector and elevate them to at least living wage.”

Tourism Alliance chairwoman Soozie Campbell said: “Brighton has become the success it is because businesses have worked hard to build its reputation as a special place to visit.

“But we know from our own research that we need to do more to keep customers coming back.

“Only when we have more than 90% of visitors giving 5/5 for satisfaction on all amenities should we relax the pressure.”

General manager of award-winning Sealife Centre Max Leviston called for VAT breaks for tourism businesses.

He said: “It’s not as simple as opening our doors and people flocking to visit, we have had to work very hard for every single visitor.

“When is the government going to be brave and not selfish, because if they don’t reduce Tourism VAT soon, then I fear we will undo all of the great work achieved during recent challenging times.”

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8:20am Fri 18 Jul 14

MagnumPI says...

It will be interesting if the sea views impacted by the Rampion wind farm will have implications for tourism... Only time will tell.
It will be interesting if the sea views impacted by the Rampion wind farm will have implications for tourism... Only time will tell. MagnumPI
  • Score: 1

8:32am Fri 18 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

So many jobs reliant on tourism and yet the greens do their best to drive people away. You know what to do next May.
So many jobs reliant on tourism and yet the greens do their best to drive people away. You know what to do next May. We love Red Billy
  • Score: 12

8:36am Fri 18 Jul 14

Tallywhacker says...

And yet the council still tries to discourage tourists unless they arrive by bike. Silly greens.
And yet the council still tries to discourage tourists unless they arrive by bike. Silly greens. Tallywhacker
  • Score: 12

8:38am Fri 18 Jul 14

HJarrs says...

Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce? HJarrs
  • Score: -14

9:01am Fri 18 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Ah the sock puppet returns, reading from the Green party manual. That copy must be fairly ragged now Steve. There may not be tumble weed down North St but there is a lot of rubbish as there is across the city. I'm sure you will find alternative work once the 'eco' trough dries up for you.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]Ah the sock puppet returns, reading from the Green party manual. That copy must be fairly ragged now Steve. There may not be tumble weed down North St but there is a lot of rubbish as there is across the city. I'm sure you will find alternative work once the 'eco' trough dries up for you. We love Red Billy
  • Score: 15

9:07am Fri 18 Jul 14

HJarrs says...

We love Red Billy wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Ah the sock puppet returns, reading from the Green party manual. That copy must be fairly ragged now Steve. There may not be tumble weed down North St but there is a lot of rubbish as there is across the city. I'm sure you will find alternative work once the 'eco' trough dries up for you.
Sold any chamber pots Adam?
[quote][p][bold]We love Red Billy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]Ah the sock puppet returns, reading from the Green party manual. That copy must be fairly ragged now Steve. There may not be tumble weed down North St but there is a lot of rubbish as there is across the city. I'm sure you will find alternative work once the 'eco' trough dries up for you.[/p][/quote]Sold any chamber pots Adam? HJarrs
  • Score: -9

9:10am Fri 18 Jul 14

Joshiman says...

Rampion nightmare.Eric Pickles you will suffer at the polls next May.Costly,subsidise
d,will not reduce our enegy bills and will be an ugly site.Cannot see Cannes/Nice/Barcelon
a/Marbella/Monaco/Du
brovnik or any other seaside resorts agreeing to this folly.
Rampion nightmare.Eric Pickles you will suffer at the polls next May.Costly,subsidise d,will not reduce our enegy bills and will be an ugly site.Cannot see Cannes/Nice/Barcelon a/Marbella/Monaco/Du brovnik or any other seaside resorts agreeing to this folly. Joshiman
  • Score: 1

9:34am Fri 18 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
And you think the greens can take credit for this????

But cant take responsibility for our un-emptied bins????? Course not, thats someone else's fault isnt it!!!

The worst council in the country, Tourists will always flock to Brighton, its been the same way for ever, nothing to do with your poor excuse of a council.

Anything positive you jump at taking credit for, anything negative you blame everyone else, that speaks volumes to your electorate.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]And you think the greens can take credit for this???? But cant take responsibility for our un-emptied bins????? Course not, thats someone else's fault isnt it!!! The worst council in the country, Tourists will always flock to Brighton, its been the same way for ever, nothing to do with your poor excuse of a council. Anything positive you jump at taking credit for, anything negative you blame everyone else, that speaks volumes to your electorate. Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 12

9:50am Fri 18 Jul 14

spa301 says...

Mrbrightside1
Anything positive you jump at taking credit for, anything negative you blame everyone else, that speaks volumes to your electorate.

Succinctly sums the Greens up in one sentence.
Mrbrightside1 Anything positive you jump at taking credit for, anything negative you blame everyone else, that speaks volumes to your electorate. Succinctly sums the Greens up in one sentence. spa301
  • Score: 13

9:55am Fri 18 Jul 14

rolivan says...

HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Where are they all going to Live?
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]Where are they all going to Live? rolivan
  • Score: 3

10:08am Fri 18 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

HJarrs wrote:
We love Red Billy wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Ah the sock puppet returns, reading from the Green party manual. That copy must be fairly ragged now Steve. There may not be tumble weed down North St but there is a lot of rubbish as there is across the city. I'm sure you will find alternative work once the 'eco' trough dries up for you.
Sold any chamber pots Adam?
Wrong name steve. I do know Adam and he is doing very nicely thank you. Happy to pass over your pic for the pots. I'm sure it would be a best seller@gzunder
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]We love Red Billy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]Ah the sock puppet returns, reading from the Green party manual. That copy must be fairly ragged now Steve. There may not be tumble weed down North St but there is a lot of rubbish as there is across the city. I'm sure you will find alternative work once the 'eco' trough dries up for you.[/p][/quote]Sold any chamber pots Adam?[/p][/quote]Wrong name steve. I do know Adam and he is doing very nicely thank you. Happy to pass over your pic for the pots. I'm sure it would be a best seller@gzunder We love Red Billy
  • Score: 5

11:27am Fri 18 Jul 14

Fairfax Aches says...

Not too fussed about the one on the left...you can have her.
Not too fussed about the one on the left...you can have her. Fairfax Aches
  • Score: -4

11:40am Fri 18 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Jobs for who, exactly?

I've yet to encounter anyone working in the tourism industry who was even born in Sussex, never mind Brighton.

Employing foreigners is nothing to be proud of, especially when so many of them are working illegally, as The Argus showed us this week.

The Greens want to return the city to its Victorian past. They hate motorised vehicles, and create congestion wherever they can. Tourists comment upon how awful driving round the area is. They also complain about the hordes of cyclists.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]Jobs for who, exactly? I've yet to encounter anyone working in the tourism industry who was even born in Sussex, never mind Brighton. Employing foreigners is nothing to be proud of, especially when so many of them are working illegally, as The Argus showed us this week. The Greens want to return the city to its Victorian past. They hate motorised vehicles, and create congestion wherever they can. Tourists comment upon how awful driving round the area is. They also complain about the hordes of cyclists. stevo!!
  • Score: -3

11:48am Fri 18 Jul 14

Fercri Sakes says...

HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs.

Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead!

Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs. Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead! Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously. Fercri Sakes
  • Score: 2

11:55am Fri 18 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

Fercri Sakes wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs.

Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead!

Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.
Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council).

Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns.

What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers?

What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer?

As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others.

The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens.

It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...
[quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs. Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead! Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.[/p][/quote]Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council). Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns. What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers? What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer? As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others. The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens. It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault... Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 10

11:56am Fri 18 Jul 14

Fercri Sakes says...

stevo!! wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Jobs for who, exactly?

I've yet to encounter anyone working in the tourism industry who was even born in Sussex, never mind Brighton.

Employing foreigners is nothing to be proud of, especially when so many of them are working illegally, as The Argus showed us this week.

The Greens want to return the city to its Victorian past. They hate motorised vehicles, and create congestion wherever they can. Tourists comment upon how awful driving round the area is. They also complain about the hordes of cyclists.
No they don't. That's just in your mind. You are removed from reality. Using your logic we should encourage cyclists to drive instead to improve traffic flow?

What ever the council are doing seems to be working. I see happy tourists, you see angry visitors seething at cyclists. Why do they keep coming back to put themselves through such torture?
[quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]Jobs for who, exactly? I've yet to encounter anyone working in the tourism industry who was even born in Sussex, never mind Brighton. Employing foreigners is nothing to be proud of, especially when so many of them are working illegally, as The Argus showed us this week. The Greens want to return the city to its Victorian past. They hate motorised vehicles, and create congestion wherever they can. Tourists comment upon how awful driving round the area is. They also complain about the hordes of cyclists.[/p][/quote]No they don't. That's just in your mind. You are removed from reality. Using your logic we should encourage cyclists to drive instead to improve traffic flow? What ever the council are doing seems to be working. I see happy tourists, you see angry visitors seething at cyclists. Why do they keep coming back to put themselves through such torture? Fercri Sakes
  • Score: -4

12:07pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Fercri Sakes says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs.

Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead!

Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.
Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council).

Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns.

What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers?

What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer?

As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others.

The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens.

It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...
Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1.

You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals"

Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs. Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead! Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.[/p][/quote]Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council). Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns. What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers? What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer? As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others. The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens. It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...[/p][/quote]Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1. You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals" Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'. Fercri Sakes
  • Score: 0

12:18pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

Fercri Sakes wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs.

Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead!

Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.
Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council).

Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns.

What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers?

What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer?

As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others.

The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens.

It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...
Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1.

You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals"

Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.
What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment.

Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth?

You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution.

The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has.

And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks.

Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city.

I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone.

Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?
[quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs. Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead! Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.[/p][/quote]Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council). Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns. What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers? What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer? As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others. The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens. It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...[/p][/quote]Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1. You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals" Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.[/p][/quote]What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment. Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth? You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution. The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has. And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks. Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city. I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone. Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up? Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 7

12:56pm Fri 18 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

Fercri Sakes wrote:
stevo!! wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Jobs for who, exactly?

I've yet to encounter anyone working in the tourism industry who was even born in Sussex, never mind Brighton.

Employing foreigners is nothing to be proud of, especially when so many of them are working illegally, as The Argus showed us this week.

The Greens want to return the city to its Victorian past. They hate motorised vehicles, and create congestion wherever they can. Tourists comment upon how awful driving round the area is. They also complain about the hordes of cyclists.
No they don't. That's just in your mind. You are removed from reality. Using your logic we should encourage cyclists to drive instead to improve traffic flow?

What ever the council are doing seems to be working. I see happy tourists, you see angry visitors seething at cyclists. Why do they keep coming back to put themselves through such torture?
So now you're claiming to know who I've spoken with on the matter?

The one detached from reality is YOU.
[quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevo!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]Jobs for who, exactly? I've yet to encounter anyone working in the tourism industry who was even born in Sussex, never mind Brighton. Employing foreigners is nothing to be proud of, especially when so many of them are working illegally, as The Argus showed us this week. The Greens want to return the city to its Victorian past. They hate motorised vehicles, and create congestion wherever they can. Tourists comment upon how awful driving round the area is. They also complain about the hordes of cyclists.[/p][/quote]No they don't. That's just in your mind. You are removed from reality. Using your logic we should encourage cyclists to drive instead to improve traffic flow? What ever the council are doing seems to be working. I see happy tourists, you see angry visitors seething at cyclists. Why do they keep coming back to put themselves through such torture?[/p][/quote]So now you're claiming to know who I've spoken with on the matter? The one detached from reality is YOU. stevo!!
  • Score: -6

1:42pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Goldenwight says...

If tourism already supports this many jobs in B&H, surely it could support a couple of dozen more involved in litter clearance, bin emptying, and general seafront maintenance- all of which are sadly lacking.
If tourism already supports this many jobs in B&H, surely it could support a couple of dozen more involved in litter clearance, bin emptying, and general seafront maintenance- all of which are sadly lacking. Goldenwight
  • Score: 6

1:47pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

Goldenwight wrote:
If tourism already supports this many jobs in B&H, surely it could support a couple of dozen more involved in litter clearance, bin emptying, and general seafront maintenance- all of which are sadly lacking.
Here here, that wont be the greens fault though, thats past councils and government cuts don't you know....

Its just the increasing tourism that the greens will take credit for
[quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: If tourism already supports this many jobs in B&H, surely it could support a couple of dozen more involved in litter clearance, bin emptying, and general seafront maintenance- all of which are sadly lacking.[/p][/quote]Here here, that wont be the greens fault though, thats past councils and government cuts don't you know.... Its just the increasing tourism that the greens will take credit for Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 3

1:48pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

Goldenwight wrote:
If tourism already supports this many jobs in B&H, surely it could support a couple of dozen more involved in litter clearance, bin emptying, and general seafront maintenance- all of which are sadly lacking.
Here here, that wont be the greens fault though, thats past councils and government cuts don't you know....

Its just the increasing tourism that the greens will take credit for
[quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: If tourism already supports this many jobs in B&H, surely it could support a couple of dozen more involved in litter clearance, bin emptying, and general seafront maintenance- all of which are sadly lacking.[/p][/quote]Here here, that wont be the greens fault though, thats past councils and government cuts don't you know.... Its just the increasing tourism that the greens will take credit for Mrbrightside1
  • Score: -2

1:53pm Fri 18 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs.

Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead!

Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.
Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council).

Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns.

What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers?

What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer?

As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others.

The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens.

It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...
Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1.

You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals"

Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.
What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment.

Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth?

You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution.

The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has.

And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks.

Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city.

I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone.

Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?
Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!!
As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!!
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs. Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead! Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.[/p][/quote]Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council). Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns. What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers? What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer? As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others. The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens. It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...[/p][/quote]Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1. You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals" Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.[/p][/quote]What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment. Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth? You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution. The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has. And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks. Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city. I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone. Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?[/p][/quote]Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!! As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -5

2:06pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs.

Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead!

Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.
Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council).

Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns.

What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers?

What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer?

As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others.

The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens.

It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...
Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1.

You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals"

Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.
What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment.

Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth?

You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution.

The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has.

And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks.

Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city.

I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone.

Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?
Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!!
As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!!
No thats you once again blaming either central government or past councils for your own mis management. Your excuses wore thin a long time ago, they are now seen as nothing but incompetence.

I am not 'whinging' about anything other than simple tasks being mis managed by the greens, the investment is good news, as is visitor numbers, neither change the fact that you cant get running a City right.

Even now you are STILL blaming past councils and referring to how we were perceived in the past???

How do you think we are perceived now, with green councillors spouting disgusting comments about our armed forces, dozens of travellers spewn across our parks, traffic at a standstill whilst cycle lanes sit empty, parking charges going through the roof, bins overflowing, the city looking filthy.

But when we speak our mind, we are whinging, unless we are bowing down to the great job the greens are doing???? Im afraid the fact is you are not doing a good job, not even a satisfactory job, and your electorate has had enough of your blame culture and spin.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs. Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead! Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.[/p][/quote]Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council). Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns. What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers? What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer? As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others. The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens. It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...[/p][/quote]Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1. You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals" Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.[/p][/quote]What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment. Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth? You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution. The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has. And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks. Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city. I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone. Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?[/p][/quote]Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!! As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!![/p][/quote]No thats you once again blaming either central government or past councils for your own mis management. Your excuses wore thin a long time ago, they are now seen as nothing but incompetence. I am not 'whinging' about anything other than simple tasks being mis managed by the greens, the investment is good news, as is visitor numbers, neither change the fact that you cant get running a City right. Even now you are STILL blaming past councils and referring to how we were perceived in the past??? How do you think we are perceived now, with green councillors spouting disgusting comments about our armed forces, dozens of travellers spewn across our parks, traffic at a standstill whilst cycle lanes sit empty, parking charges going through the roof, bins overflowing, the city looking filthy. But when we speak our mind, we are whinging, unless we are bowing down to the great job the greens are doing???? Im afraid the fact is you are not doing a good job, not even a satisfactory job, and your electorate has had enough of your blame culture and spin. Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 7

2:43pm Fri 18 Jul 14

fredflintstone1 says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs.

Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead!

Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.
Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council).

Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns.

What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers?

What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer?

As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others.

The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens.

It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...
Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1.

You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals"

Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.
What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment.

Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth?

You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution.

The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has.

And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks.

Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city.

I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone.

Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?
Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!!
As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!!
Hard decisions? No - your Green chums decided themselves that running an effective refuse collection service wasn't their top priority. Hence the vehicles were axed.

This has already been pointed out to you by other people on previous threads. Face facts - the greens would rather spend our money on vanity projects than on ensuring the basic needs of city residents are met.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs. Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead! Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.[/p][/quote]Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council). Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns. What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers? What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer? As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others. The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens. It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...[/p][/quote]Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1. You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals" Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.[/p][/quote]What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment. Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth? You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution. The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has. And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks. Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city. I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone. Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?[/p][/quote]Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!! As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!![/p][/quote]Hard decisions? No - your Green chums decided themselves that running an effective refuse collection service wasn't their top priority. Hence the vehicles were axed. This has already been pointed out to you by other people on previous threads. Face facts - the greens would rather spend our money on vanity projects than on ensuring the basic needs of city residents are met. fredflintstone1
  • Score: 7

2:53pm Fri 18 Jul 14

spa301 says...

Mr Brightside
You must be hitting home with your comments as you're stirring up all the usual Green suspects. I bet Eugenius is out there too just waiting to add his drivel. Be careful they don't tar you with their worst insult ... a moanarati ..... boy that hurts when it thrown at you.
Mr Brightside You must be hitting home with your comments as you're stirring up all the usual Green suspects. I bet Eugenius is out there too just waiting to add his drivel. Be careful they don't tar you with their worst insult ... a moanarati ..... boy that hurts when it thrown at you. spa301
  • Score: 5

4:02pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Fercri Sakes says...

@ MrBrightside1

You still don't really understand numbers that well do you. You said:

"The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has."

You are wrong. This article is talking about the 'rate of growth' in tourisms ince 2008.

So imagine if, on average, Worthing got 100 visitors each day and Brighton got 1000. If Worthing got 20 extra ones and Brighton got 100 extra ones then Worthing's 'rate of growth' would be twice as much as Brighton's, even though less visitors arrived.

What this article is suggesting is that, making 2008 tourism figures a baseline for the figures, compared to previous years totals, the 'rate of growth' in tourism to Brighton & Hove is three times higher than other resorts. It is not saying that three times as many people visited here.

Basing the figures from a 2008 baseline throws away any pre-2008 rises and gains or historical 'people have always' arguments.

But the real reason so many more visitors have been choosing Brighton & Hove over other resorts is that you moaners stay indoors all day posting anti-Green comments keeping out of their way. Or maybe you think they're all coming down to witness the horrors of living in a communist distopia? Ha!
@ MrBrightside1 You still don't really understand numbers that well do you. You said: "The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has." You are wrong. This article is talking about the 'rate of growth' in tourisms ince 2008. So imagine if, on average, Worthing got 100 visitors each day and Brighton got 1000. If Worthing got 20 extra ones and Brighton got 100 extra ones then Worthing's 'rate of growth' would be twice as much as Brighton's, even though less visitors arrived. What this article is suggesting is that, making 2008 tourism figures a baseline for the figures, compared to previous years totals, the 'rate of growth' in tourism to Brighton & Hove is three times higher than other resorts. It is not saying that three times as many people visited here. Basing the figures from a 2008 baseline throws away any pre-2008 rises and gains or historical 'people have always' arguments. But the real reason so many more visitors have been choosing Brighton & Hove over other resorts is that you moaners stay indoors all day posting anti-Green comments keeping out of their way. Or maybe you think they're all coming down to witness the horrors of living in a communist distopia? Ha! Fercri Sakes
  • Score: -5

4:20pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

Fercri Sakes wrote:
@ MrBrightside1

You still don't really understand numbers that well do you. You said:

"The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has."

You are wrong. This article is talking about the 'rate of growth' in tourisms ince 2008.

So imagine if, on average, Worthing got 100 visitors each day and Brighton got 1000. If Worthing got 20 extra ones and Brighton got 100 extra ones then Worthing's 'rate of growth' would be twice as much as Brighton's, even though less visitors arrived.

What this article is suggesting is that, making 2008 tourism figures a baseline for the figures, compared to previous years totals, the 'rate of growth' in tourism to Brighton & Hove is three times higher than other resorts. It is not saying that three times as many people visited here.

Basing the figures from a 2008 baseline throws away any pre-2008 rises and gains or historical 'people have always' arguments.

But the real reason so many more visitors have been choosing Brighton & Hove over other resorts is that you moaners stay indoors all day posting anti-Green comments keeping out of their way. Or maybe you think they're all coming down to witness the horrors of living in a communist distopia? Ha!
And your point is??????? That doesn't get away from the fact its nothing to do with anything the greens have done, but quickly take credit for, when there is a negative story, the greens very quickly blame another historical party or national government.

So your maths lesson really isn't needed, as I am not denying our rate of growth, and believe its a great thing. My point was the greens cant take any credit for it. And rather than throwing pathetic insults about 'moaners' maybe actually try listening to what the electorate say, your pathetic attitude however certainly represents the greens particularly well.

Communist distopia? Again, another pathetic comment. Still no acknowledgement of the hundreds of residents having to take time out of their own days to complain to try and get the green led council to actually satisfy the most basic need and empty bins on time and keep our streets clean, not a big ask I don't believe, but no doubt it wont be the greens fault or you will come back with some pointless attempt at an insult.
[quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: @ MrBrightside1 You still don't really understand numbers that well do you. You said: "The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has." You are wrong. This article is talking about the 'rate of growth' in tourisms ince 2008. So imagine if, on average, Worthing got 100 visitors each day and Brighton got 1000. If Worthing got 20 extra ones and Brighton got 100 extra ones then Worthing's 'rate of growth' would be twice as much as Brighton's, even though less visitors arrived. What this article is suggesting is that, making 2008 tourism figures a baseline for the figures, compared to previous years totals, the 'rate of growth' in tourism to Brighton & Hove is three times higher than other resorts. It is not saying that three times as many people visited here. Basing the figures from a 2008 baseline throws away any pre-2008 rises and gains or historical 'people have always' arguments. But the real reason so many more visitors have been choosing Brighton & Hove over other resorts is that you moaners stay indoors all day posting anti-Green comments keeping out of their way. Or maybe you think they're all coming down to witness the horrors of living in a communist distopia? Ha![/p][/quote]And your point is??????? That doesn't get away from the fact its nothing to do with anything the greens have done, but quickly take credit for, when there is a negative story, the greens very quickly blame another historical party or national government. So your maths lesson really isn't needed, as I am not denying our rate of growth, and believe its a great thing. My point was the greens cant take any credit for it. And rather than throwing pathetic insults about 'moaners' maybe actually try listening to what the electorate say, your pathetic attitude however certainly represents the greens particularly well. Communist distopia? Again, another pathetic comment. Still no acknowledgement of the hundreds of residents having to take time out of their own days to complain to try and get the green led council to actually satisfy the most basic need and empty bins on time and keep our streets clean, not a big ask I don't believe, but no doubt it wont be the greens fault or you will come back with some pointless attempt at an insult. Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 1

4:32pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

Fercri Sakes wrote:
@ MrBrightside1

You still don't really understand numbers that well do you. You said:

"The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has."

You are wrong. This article is talking about the 'rate of growth' in tourisms ince 2008.

So imagine if, on average, Worthing got 100 visitors each day and Brighton got 1000. If Worthing got 20 extra ones and Brighton got 100 extra ones then Worthing's 'rate of growth' would be twice as much as Brighton's, even though less visitors arrived.

What this article is suggesting is that, making 2008 tourism figures a baseline for the figures, compared to previous years totals, the 'rate of growth' in tourism to Brighton & Hove is three times higher than other resorts. It is not saying that three times as many people visited here.

Basing the figures from a 2008 baseline throws away any pre-2008 rises and gains or historical 'people have always' arguments.

But the real reason so many more visitors have been choosing Brighton & Hove over other resorts is that you moaners stay indoors all day posting anti-Green comments keeping out of their way. Or maybe you think they're all coming down to witness the horrors of living in a communist distopia? Ha!
This is a great eye opener to just how green the greens are:

http://thelatest.co.
uk/brighton/2014/07/
16/watch-recycling-r
ates-in-brighton-and
-hove-fall-again-why
-are-we-so-rubbish-a
t-it/

Almost 20% LOWER than the national average for recycling, how very green. Ha, no doubt not the greens fault though....obviously
[quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: @ MrBrightside1 You still don't really understand numbers that well do you. You said: "The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has." You are wrong. This article is talking about the 'rate of growth' in tourisms ince 2008. So imagine if, on average, Worthing got 100 visitors each day and Brighton got 1000. If Worthing got 20 extra ones and Brighton got 100 extra ones then Worthing's 'rate of growth' would be twice as much as Brighton's, even though less visitors arrived. What this article is suggesting is that, making 2008 tourism figures a baseline for the figures, compared to previous years totals, the 'rate of growth' in tourism to Brighton & Hove is three times higher than other resorts. It is not saying that three times as many people visited here. Basing the figures from a 2008 baseline throws away any pre-2008 rises and gains or historical 'people have always' arguments. But the real reason so many more visitors have been choosing Brighton & Hove over other resorts is that you moaners stay indoors all day posting anti-Green comments keeping out of their way. Or maybe you think they're all coming down to witness the horrors of living in a communist distopia? Ha![/p][/quote]This is a great eye opener to just how green the greens are: http://thelatest.co. uk/brighton/2014/07/ 16/watch-recycling-r ates-in-brighton-and -hove-fall-again-why -are-we-so-rubbish-a t-it/ Almost 20% LOWER than the national average for recycling, how very green. Ha, no doubt not the greens fault though....obviously Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 4

4:36pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

Fercri Sakes wrote:
@ MrBrightside1

You still don't really understand numbers that well do you. You said:

"The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has."

You are wrong. This article is talking about the 'rate of growth' in tourisms ince 2008.

So imagine if, on average, Worthing got 100 visitors each day and Brighton got 1000. If Worthing got 20 extra ones and Brighton got 100 extra ones then Worthing's 'rate of growth' would be twice as much as Brighton's, even though less visitors arrived.

What this article is suggesting is that, making 2008 tourism figures a baseline for the figures, compared to previous years totals, the 'rate of growth' in tourism to Brighton & Hove is three times higher than other resorts. It is not saying that three times as many people visited here.

Basing the figures from a 2008 baseline throws away any pre-2008 rises and gains or historical 'people have always' arguments.

But the real reason so many more visitors have been choosing Brighton & Hove over other resorts is that you moaners stay indoors all day posting anti-Green comments keeping out of their way. Or maybe you think they're all coming down to witness the horrors of living in a communist distopia? Ha!
Assuming this is Tory/Labs fault too? Looks like its dropped significantly since the greens started running the city, oh dear, like I said a completely incompetent council that cant even get the basics right, tut tut tut...

http://www.brighton-
hove.gov.uk/content/
environment/recyclin
g-rubbish-and-street
-cleaning/cityclean-
performance#subtitle
2
[quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: @ MrBrightside1 You still don't really understand numbers that well do you. You said: "The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has." You are wrong. This article is talking about the 'rate of growth' in tourisms ince 2008. So imagine if, on average, Worthing got 100 visitors each day and Brighton got 1000. If Worthing got 20 extra ones and Brighton got 100 extra ones then Worthing's 'rate of growth' would be twice as much as Brighton's, even though less visitors arrived. What this article is suggesting is that, making 2008 tourism figures a baseline for the figures, compared to previous years totals, the 'rate of growth' in tourism to Brighton & Hove is three times higher than other resorts. It is not saying that three times as many people visited here. Basing the figures from a 2008 baseline throws away any pre-2008 rises and gains or historical 'people have always' arguments. But the real reason so many more visitors have been choosing Brighton & Hove over other resorts is that you moaners stay indoors all day posting anti-Green comments keeping out of their way. Or maybe you think they're all coming down to witness the horrors of living in a communist distopia? Ha![/p][/quote]Assuming this is Tory/Labs fault too? Looks like its dropped significantly since the greens started running the city, oh dear, like I said a completely incompetent council that cant even get the basics right, tut tut tut... http://www.brighton- hove.gov.uk/content/ environment/recyclin g-rubbish-and-street -cleaning/cityclean- performance#subtitle 2 Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 1

4:37pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

spa301 wrote:
Mr Brightside
You must be hitting home with your comments as you're stirring up all the usual Green suspects. I bet Eugenius is out there too just waiting to add his drivel. Be careful they don't tar you with their worst insult ... a moanarati ..... boy that hurts when it thrown at you.
The guys a complete tool, but displays the same mis placed arrogance all greens seem to have inherited. Quite funny really
[quote][p][bold]spa301[/bold] wrote: Mr Brightside You must be hitting home with your comments as you're stirring up all the usual Green suspects. I bet Eugenius is out there too just waiting to add his drivel. Be careful they don't tar you with their worst insult ... a moanarati ..... boy that hurts when it thrown at you.[/p][/quote]The guys a complete tool, but displays the same mis placed arrogance all greens seem to have inherited. Quite funny really Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 1

4:37pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Fercri Sakes says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
@ MrBrightside1

You still don't really understand numbers that well do you. You said:

"The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has."

You are wrong. This article is talking about the 'rate of growth' in tourisms ince 2008.

So imagine if, on average, Worthing got 100 visitors each day and Brighton got 1000. If Worthing got 20 extra ones and Brighton got 100 extra ones then Worthing's 'rate of growth' would be twice as much as Brighton's, even though less visitors arrived.

What this article is suggesting is that, making 2008 tourism figures a baseline for the figures, compared to previous years totals, the 'rate of growth' in tourism to Brighton & Hove is three times higher than other resorts. It is not saying that three times as many people visited here.

Basing the figures from a 2008 baseline throws away any pre-2008 rises and gains or historical 'people have always' arguments.

But the real reason so many more visitors have been choosing Brighton & Hove over other resorts is that you moaners stay indoors all day posting anti-Green comments keeping out of their way. Or maybe you think they're all coming down to witness the horrors of living in a communist distopia? Ha!
And your point is??????? That doesn't get away from the fact its nothing to do with anything the greens have done, but quickly take credit for, when there is a negative story, the greens very quickly blame another historical party or national government.

So your maths lesson really isn't needed, as I am not denying our rate of growth, and believe its a great thing. My point was the greens cant take any credit for it. And rather than throwing pathetic insults about 'moaners' maybe actually try listening to what the electorate say, your pathetic attitude however certainly represents the greens particularly well.

Communist distopia? Again, another pathetic comment. Still no acknowledgement of the hundreds of residents having to take time out of their own days to complain to try and get the green led council to actually satisfy the most basic need and empty bins on time and keep our streets clean, not a big ask I don't believe, but no doubt it wont be the greens fault or you will come back with some pointless attempt at an insult.
Ok, so can I simplify your agrument down to:

1. The council cannot take any credit whatsoever for the rate of growth three times higher than neighbouring resorts.

2. The council haven't been collecting your bins.

There, that was easy, wasn't it. Well your first point is just an opinion. One I do not agree with.

And as for your point about the bins, Bury council has now moved to a one every three weeks collection due to central government cut backs. Mine seem to get emptied much more regularly. Could you tell us a bit more about these bins as, like I say, they all seem to be collected in my area.
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: @ MrBrightside1 You still don't really understand numbers that well do you. You said: "The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has." You are wrong. This article is talking about the 'rate of growth' in tourisms ince 2008. So imagine if, on average, Worthing got 100 visitors each day and Brighton got 1000. If Worthing got 20 extra ones and Brighton got 100 extra ones then Worthing's 'rate of growth' would be twice as much as Brighton's, even though less visitors arrived. What this article is suggesting is that, making 2008 tourism figures a baseline for the figures, compared to previous years totals, the 'rate of growth' in tourism to Brighton & Hove is three times higher than other resorts. It is not saying that three times as many people visited here. Basing the figures from a 2008 baseline throws away any pre-2008 rises and gains or historical 'people have always' arguments. But the real reason so many more visitors have been choosing Brighton & Hove over other resorts is that you moaners stay indoors all day posting anti-Green comments keeping out of their way. Or maybe you think they're all coming down to witness the horrors of living in a communist distopia? Ha![/p][/quote]And your point is??????? That doesn't get away from the fact its nothing to do with anything the greens have done, but quickly take credit for, when there is a negative story, the greens very quickly blame another historical party or national government. So your maths lesson really isn't needed, as I am not denying our rate of growth, and believe its a great thing. My point was the greens cant take any credit for it. And rather than throwing pathetic insults about 'moaners' maybe actually try listening to what the electorate say, your pathetic attitude however certainly represents the greens particularly well. Communist distopia? Again, another pathetic comment. Still no acknowledgement of the hundreds of residents having to take time out of their own days to complain to try and get the green led council to actually satisfy the most basic need and empty bins on time and keep our streets clean, not a big ask I don't believe, but no doubt it wont be the greens fault or you will come back with some pointless attempt at an insult.[/p][/quote]Ok, so can I simplify your agrument down to: 1. The council cannot take any credit whatsoever for the rate of growth three times higher than neighbouring resorts. 2. The council haven't been collecting your bins. There, that was easy, wasn't it. Well your first point is just an opinion. One I do not agree with. And as for your point about the bins, Bury council has now moved to a one every three weeks collection due to central government cut backs. Mine seem to get emptied much more regularly. Could you tell us a bit more about these bins as, like I say, they all seem to be collected in my area. Fercri Sakes
  • Score: -1

4:47pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

Fercri Sakes wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
@ MrBrightside1

You still don't really understand numbers that well do you. You said:

"The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has."

You are wrong. This article is talking about the 'rate of growth' in tourisms ince 2008.

So imagine if, on average, Worthing got 100 visitors each day and Brighton got 1000. If Worthing got 20 extra ones and Brighton got 100 extra ones then Worthing's 'rate of growth' would be twice as much as Brighton's, even though less visitors arrived.

What this article is suggesting is that, making 2008 tourism figures a baseline for the figures, compared to previous years totals, the 'rate of growth' in tourism to Brighton & Hove is three times higher than other resorts. It is not saying that three times as many people visited here.

Basing the figures from a 2008 baseline throws away any pre-2008 rises and gains or historical 'people have always' arguments.

But the real reason so many more visitors have been choosing Brighton & Hove over other resorts is that you moaners stay indoors all day posting anti-Green comments keeping out of their way. Or maybe you think they're all coming down to witness the horrors of living in a communist distopia? Ha!
And your point is??????? That doesn't get away from the fact its nothing to do with anything the greens have done, but quickly take credit for, when there is a negative story, the greens very quickly blame another historical party or national government.

So your maths lesson really isn't needed, as I am not denying our rate of growth, and believe its a great thing. My point was the greens cant take any credit for it. And rather than throwing pathetic insults about 'moaners' maybe actually try listening to what the electorate say, your pathetic attitude however certainly represents the greens particularly well.

Communist distopia? Again, another pathetic comment. Still no acknowledgement of the hundreds of residents having to take time out of their own days to complain to try and get the green led council to actually satisfy the most basic need and empty bins on time and keep our streets clean, not a big ask I don't believe, but no doubt it wont be the greens fault or you will come back with some pointless attempt at an insult.
Ok, so can I simplify your agrument down to:

1. The council cannot take any credit whatsoever for the rate of growth three times higher than neighbouring resorts.

2. The council haven't been collecting your bins.

There, that was easy, wasn't it. Well your first point is just an opinion. One I do not agree with.

And as for your point about the bins, Bury council has now moved to a one every three weeks collection due to central government cut backs. Mine seem to get emptied much more regularly. Could you tell us a bit more about these bins as, like I say, they all seem to be collected in my area.
There you go again, whats with the attitude? You are representing a party you obviously support on a public forum, with the attitude of a petulant child, can you see this is part of the reason the electorate cannot stand your party anymore?

So what if Bury council have moved to 3 weekly collections? I dont live in Bury, and I am discussing Brighton, there are several areas of brighton that are not getting a refuse service, or a part refuse service, or missed collections, or missed recycling. I do not have the patience to list every part of the city with problems, your a clever boy, im sure your work it out for yourself.

Lewes and Mid Sussex and West Sussex councils have all had Auserity cuts too, but guess what, they all get their bins collected and emptied on time, their streets are clean and the councils appear to operate to a satisfactory standard, amazing. Im afraid its Brighton council with the issues, an incompetent council from top to bottom, what a shame as im sure your voters thought you would actually be a credible alternative, you have proved them and the rest of the uk, that you are anything but. Shame...
[quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: @ MrBrightside1 You still don't really understand numbers that well do you. You said: "The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has." You are wrong. This article is talking about the 'rate of growth' in tourisms ince 2008. So imagine if, on average, Worthing got 100 visitors each day and Brighton got 1000. If Worthing got 20 extra ones and Brighton got 100 extra ones then Worthing's 'rate of growth' would be twice as much as Brighton's, even though less visitors arrived. What this article is suggesting is that, making 2008 tourism figures a baseline for the figures, compared to previous years totals, the 'rate of growth' in tourism to Brighton & Hove is three times higher than other resorts. It is not saying that three times as many people visited here. Basing the figures from a 2008 baseline throws away any pre-2008 rises and gains or historical 'people have always' arguments. But the real reason so many more visitors have been choosing Brighton & Hove over other resorts is that you moaners stay indoors all day posting anti-Green comments keeping out of their way. Or maybe you think they're all coming down to witness the horrors of living in a communist distopia? Ha![/p][/quote]And your point is??????? That doesn't get away from the fact its nothing to do with anything the greens have done, but quickly take credit for, when there is a negative story, the greens very quickly blame another historical party or national government. So your maths lesson really isn't needed, as I am not denying our rate of growth, and believe its a great thing. My point was the greens cant take any credit for it. And rather than throwing pathetic insults about 'moaners' maybe actually try listening to what the electorate say, your pathetic attitude however certainly represents the greens particularly well. Communist distopia? Again, another pathetic comment. Still no acknowledgement of the hundreds of residents having to take time out of their own days to complain to try and get the green led council to actually satisfy the most basic need and empty bins on time and keep our streets clean, not a big ask I don't believe, but no doubt it wont be the greens fault or you will come back with some pointless attempt at an insult.[/p][/quote]Ok, so can I simplify your agrument down to: 1. The council cannot take any credit whatsoever for the rate of growth three times higher than neighbouring resorts. 2. The council haven't been collecting your bins. There, that was easy, wasn't it. Well your first point is just an opinion. One I do not agree with. And as for your point about the bins, Bury council has now moved to a one every three weeks collection due to central government cut backs. Mine seem to get emptied much more regularly. Could you tell us a bit more about these bins as, like I say, they all seem to be collected in my area.[/p][/quote]There you go again, whats with the attitude? You are representing a party you obviously support on a public forum, with the attitude of a petulant child, can you see this is part of the reason the electorate cannot stand your party anymore? So what if Bury council have moved to 3 weekly collections? I dont live in Bury, and I am discussing Brighton, there are several areas of brighton that are not getting a refuse service, or a part refuse service, or missed collections, or missed recycling. I do not have the patience to list every part of the city with problems, your a clever boy, im sure your work it out for yourself. Lewes and Mid Sussex and West Sussex councils have all had Auserity cuts too, but guess what, they all get their bins collected and emptied on time, their streets are clean and the councils appear to operate to a satisfactory standard, amazing. Im afraid its Brighton council with the issues, an incompetent council from top to bottom, what a shame as im sure your voters thought you would actually be a credible alternative, you have proved them and the rest of the uk, that you are anything but. Shame... Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 2

5:03pm Fri 18 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

fredflintstone1 wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs.

Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead!

Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.
Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council).

Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns.

What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers?

What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer?

As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others.

The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens.

It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...
Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1.

You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals"

Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.
What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment.

Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth?

You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution.

The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has.

And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks.

Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city.

I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone.

Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?
Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!!
As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!!
Hard decisions? No - your Green chums decided themselves that running an effective refuse collection service wasn't their top priority. Hence the vehicles were axed.

This has already been pointed out to you by other people on previous threads. Face facts - the greens would rather spend our money on vanity projects than on ensuring the basic needs of city residents are met.
So you obviously think that continuing cuts in funding to local authorities WHICH ARE GOING TO GET WORSE have no bearing on the services, or lack of them, that are being provided?!
[quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs. Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead! Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.[/p][/quote]Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council). Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns. What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers? What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer? As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others. The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens. It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...[/p][/quote]Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1. You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals" Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.[/p][/quote]What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment. Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth? You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution. The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has. And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks. Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city. I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone. Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?[/p][/quote]Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!! As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!![/p][/quote]Hard decisions? No - your Green chums decided themselves that running an effective refuse collection service wasn't their top priority. Hence the vehicles were axed. This has already been pointed out to you by other people on previous threads. Face facts - the greens would rather spend our money on vanity projects than on ensuring the basic needs of city residents are met.[/p][/quote]So you obviously think that continuing cuts in funding to local authorities WHICH ARE GOING TO GET WORSE have no bearing on the services, or lack of them, that are being provided?! brighton bluenose
  • Score: -3

5:10pm Fri 18 Jul 14

brighton bluenose says...

fredflintstone1 wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs.

Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead!

Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.
Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council).

Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns.

What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers?

What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer?

As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others.

The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens.

It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...
Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1.

You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals"

Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.
What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment.

Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth?

You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution.

The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has.

And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks.

Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city.

I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone.

Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?
Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!!
As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!!
Hard decisions? No - your Green chums decided themselves that running an effective refuse collection service wasn't their top priority. Hence the vehicles were axed.

This has already been pointed out to you by other people on previous threads. Face facts - the greens would rather spend our money on vanity projects than on ensuring the basic needs of city residents are met.
As has been pointed out to you and the rest of the moanerati on numerous ocassions the vast vast majority of money spent on so-called vanity projects is either from ring-fenced budgets such as the dreaded parking charges being used for transport initiatives or special funding from government etc and is NOT from general council funds that could be used for, say, additional bin-men -yet you know this but you keep repeating the half-truths and lies!!
[quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs. Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead! Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.[/p][/quote]Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council). Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns. What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers? What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer? As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others. The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens. It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...[/p][/quote]Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1. You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals" Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.[/p][/quote]What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment. Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth? You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution. The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has. And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks. Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city. I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone. Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?[/p][/quote]Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!! As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!![/p][/quote]Hard decisions? No - your Green chums decided themselves that running an effective refuse collection service wasn't their top priority. Hence the vehicles were axed. This has already been pointed out to you by other people on previous threads. Face facts - the greens would rather spend our money on vanity projects than on ensuring the basic needs of city residents are met.[/p][/quote]As has been pointed out to you and the rest of the moanerati on numerous ocassions the vast vast majority of money spent on so-called vanity projects is either from ring-fenced budgets such as the dreaded parking charges being used for transport initiatives or special funding from government etc and is NOT from general council funds that could be used for, say, additional bin-men -yet you know this but you keep repeating the half-truths and lies!! brighton bluenose
  • Score: 0

8:08pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Sussex jim says...

If you want see wind farms, go to Skegness. There is a massive array about a mile out.
Having got over the initial visual shock (in about a minute) you can freely enjoy the resort with its bracing air and multitudes of fish and chip shops.
The proposed array off Brighton will be on the distant horizon: if you can see it past the many oil tankers and container ships that ply the English Channel...
If you want see wind farms, go to Skegness. There is a massive array about a mile out. Having got over the initial visual shock (in about a minute) you can freely enjoy the resort with its bracing air and multitudes of fish and chip shops. The proposed array off Brighton will be on the distant horizon: if you can see it past the many oil tankers and container ships that ply the English Channel... Sussex jim
  • Score: 2

8:38pm Fri 18 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

brighton bluenose wrote:
fredflintstone1 wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs.

Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead!

Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.
Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council).

Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns.

What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers?

What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer?

As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others.

The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens.

It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...
Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1.

You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals"

Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.
What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment.

Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth?

You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution.

The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has.

And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks.

Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city.

I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone.

Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?
Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!!
As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!!
Hard decisions? No - your Green chums decided themselves that running an effective refuse collection service wasn't their top priority. Hence the vehicles were axed.

This has already been pointed out to you by other people on previous threads. Face facts - the greens would rather spend our money on vanity projects than on ensuring the basic needs of city residents are met.
As has been pointed out to you and the rest of the moanerati on numerous ocassions the vast vast majority of money spent on so-called vanity projects is either from ring-fenced budgets such as the dreaded parking charges being used for transport initiatives or special funding from government etc and is NOT from general council funds that could be used for, say, additional bin-men -yet you know this but you keep repeating the half-truths and lies!!
But its still money out of the UK budget Chaiman Mao.
[quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs. Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead! Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.[/p][/quote]Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council). Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns. What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers? What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer? As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others. The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens. It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...[/p][/quote]Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1. You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals" Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.[/p][/quote]What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment. Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth? You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution. The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has. And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks. Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city. I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone. Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?[/p][/quote]Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!! As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!![/p][/quote]Hard decisions? No - your Green chums decided themselves that running an effective refuse collection service wasn't their top priority. Hence the vehicles were axed. This has already been pointed out to you by other people on previous threads. Face facts - the greens would rather spend our money on vanity projects than on ensuring the basic needs of city residents are met.[/p][/quote]As has been pointed out to you and the rest of the moanerati on numerous ocassions the vast vast majority of money spent on so-called vanity projects is either from ring-fenced budgets such as the dreaded parking charges being used for transport initiatives or special funding from government etc and is NOT from general council funds that could be used for, say, additional bin-men -yet you know this but you keep repeating the half-truths and lies!![/p][/quote]But its still money out of the UK budget Chaiman Mao. We love Red Billy
  • Score: 0

10:08pm Fri 18 Jul 14

HJarrs says...

We love Red Billy wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
fredflintstone1 wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs.

Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead!

Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.
Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council).

Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns.

What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers?

What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer?

As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others.

The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens.

It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...
Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1.

You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals"

Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.
What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment.

Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth?

You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution.

The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has.

And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks.

Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city.

I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone.

Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?
Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!!
As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!!
Hard decisions? No - your Green chums decided themselves that running an effective refuse collection service wasn't their top priority. Hence the vehicles were axed.

This has already been pointed out to you by other people on previous threads. Face facts - the greens would rather spend our money on vanity projects than on ensuring the basic needs of city residents are met.
As has been pointed out to you and the rest of the moanerati on numerous ocassions the vast vast majority of money spent on so-called vanity projects is either from ring-fenced budgets such as the dreaded parking charges being used for transport initiatives or special funding from government etc and is NOT from general council funds that could be used for, say, additional bin-men -yet you know this but you keep repeating the half-truths and lies!!
But its still money out of the UK budget Chaiman Mao.
And would have been spent in other town and cities if Brighton hadn't been successful.
[quote][p][bold]We love Red Billy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs. Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead! Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.[/p][/quote]Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council). Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns. What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers? What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer? As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others. The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens. It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...[/p][/quote]Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1. You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals" Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.[/p][/quote]What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment. Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth? You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution. The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has. And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks. Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city. I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone. Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?[/p][/quote]Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!! As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!![/p][/quote]Hard decisions? No - your Green chums decided themselves that running an effective refuse collection service wasn't their top priority. Hence the vehicles were axed. This has already been pointed out to you by other people on previous threads. Face facts - the greens would rather spend our money on vanity projects than on ensuring the basic needs of city residents are met.[/p][/quote]As has been pointed out to you and the rest of the moanerati on numerous ocassions the vast vast majority of money spent on so-called vanity projects is either from ring-fenced budgets such as the dreaded parking charges being used for transport initiatives or special funding from government etc and is NOT from general council funds that could be used for, say, additional bin-men -yet you know this but you keep repeating the half-truths and lies!![/p][/quote]But its still money out of the UK budget Chaiman Mao.[/p][/quote]And would have been spent in other town and cities if Brighton hadn't been successful. HJarrs
  • Score: 0

10:31pm Fri 18 Jul 14

hellohonkytonks says...

HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Why don't you just fack off
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]Why don't you just fack off hellohonkytonks
  • Score: 1

10:43pm Fri 18 Jul 14

The Real Curious George says...

HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Please, arrs, shoot yourself. Such tiresome , unevidenced propaganda is getting to be a bit annoying now.
You haven't a politically skeptical bone in your soft and flaccid corpse when it comes to the Greens. That's why we are so tired of your borborygmus-like venting.

The evidence for the Greens epic failure within B&H is all around, delivered to you fresh from the "moanerati", who, be that as it may, do actually have some valid points.
Your tedious automatic nay-saying is actually making you a laughing stock.
If I were you I'd refrain from continuously posting your vacuous perspectives. You are not entitled to an opinion, you are only entitled to an "informed opinion" and I do not believe you have one.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]Please, arrs, shoot yourself. Such tiresome , unevidenced propaganda is getting to be a bit annoying now. You haven't a politically skeptical bone in your soft and flaccid corpse when it comes to the Greens. That's why we are so tired of your borborygmus-like venting. The evidence for the Greens epic failure within B&H is all around, delivered to you fresh from the "moanerati", who, be that as it may, do actually have some valid points. Your tedious automatic nay-saying is actually making you a laughing stock. If I were you I'd refrain from continuously posting your vacuous perspectives. You are not entitled to an opinion, you are only entitled to an "informed opinion" and I do not believe you have one. The Real Curious George
  • Score: 2

8:28am Sat 19 Jul 14

HJarrs says...

The Real Curious George wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Please, arrs, shoot yourself. Such tiresome , unevidenced propaganda is getting to be a bit annoying now.
You haven't a politically skeptical bone in your soft and flaccid corpse when it comes to the Greens. That's why we are so tired of your borborygmus-like venting.

The evidence for the Greens epic failure within B&H is all around, delivered to you fresh from the "moanerati", who, be that as it may, do actually have some valid points.
Your tedious automatic nay-saying is actually making you a laughing stock.
If I were you I'd refrain from continuously posting your vacuous perspectives. You are not entitled to an opinion, you are only entitled to an "informed opinion" and I do not believe you have one.
If I am getting right up your nose I must be hitting the right note.

The city is doing far better than comparable authorities around the country. Way ahead of the general economic trend of the country. Whether it be tourism, or jobs both of which you moaners have endlessly told us would not be the case because of the actions of the Greens. Clearly you are consistently wrong. The tourists and businesses are not listening to you. Plenty of free parking in Blackpool though!
[quote][p][bold]The Real Curious George[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]Please, arrs, shoot yourself. Such tiresome , unevidenced propaganda is getting to be a bit annoying now. You haven't a politically skeptical bone in your soft and flaccid corpse when it comes to the Greens. That's why we are so tired of your borborygmus-like venting. The evidence for the Greens epic failure within B&H is all around, delivered to you fresh from the "moanerati", who, be that as it may, do actually have some valid points. Your tedious automatic nay-saying is actually making you a laughing stock. If I were you I'd refrain from continuously posting your vacuous perspectives. You are not entitled to an opinion, you are only entitled to an "informed opinion" and I do not believe you have one.[/p][/quote]If I am getting right up your nose I must be hitting the right note. The city is doing far better than comparable authorities around the country. Way ahead of the general economic trend of the country. Whether it be tourism, or jobs both of which you moaners have endlessly told us would not be the case because of the actions of the Greens. Clearly you are consistently wrong. The tourists and businesses are not listening to you. Plenty of free parking in Blackpool though! HJarrs
  • Score: -1

8:42am Sat 19 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

HJarrs wrote:
The Real Curious George wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Please, arrs, shoot yourself. Such tiresome , unevidenced propaganda is getting to be a bit annoying now.
You haven't a politically skeptical bone in your soft and flaccid corpse when it comes to the Greens. That's why we are so tired of your borborygmus-like venting.

The evidence for the Greens epic failure within B&H is all around, delivered to you fresh from the "moanerati", who, be that as it may, do actually have some valid points.
Your tedious automatic nay-saying is actually making you a laughing stock.
If I were you I'd refrain from continuously posting your vacuous perspectives. You are not entitled to an opinion, you are only entitled to an "informed opinion" and I do not believe you have one.
If I am getting right up your nose I must be hitting the right note.

The city is doing far better than comparable authorities around the country. Way ahead of the general economic trend of the country. Whether it be tourism, or jobs both of which you moaners have endlessly told us would not be the case because of the actions of the Greens. Clearly you are consistently wrong. The tourists and businesses are not listening to you. Plenty of free parking in Blackpool though!
Trough, Trough!
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Real Curious George[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]Please, arrs, shoot yourself. Such tiresome , unevidenced propaganda is getting to be a bit annoying now. You haven't a politically skeptical bone in your soft and flaccid corpse when it comes to the Greens. That's why we are so tired of your borborygmus-like venting. The evidence for the Greens epic failure within B&H is all around, delivered to you fresh from the "moanerati", who, be that as it may, do actually have some valid points. Your tedious automatic nay-saying is actually making you a laughing stock. If I were you I'd refrain from continuously posting your vacuous perspectives. You are not entitled to an opinion, you are only entitled to an "informed opinion" and I do not believe you have one.[/p][/quote]If I am getting right up your nose I must be hitting the right note. The city is doing far better than comparable authorities around the country. Way ahead of the general economic trend of the country. Whether it be tourism, or jobs both of which you moaners have endlessly told us would not be the case because of the actions of the Greens. Clearly you are consistently wrong. The tourists and businesses are not listening to you. Plenty of free parking in Blackpool though![/p][/quote]Trough, Trough! We love Red Billy
  • Score: -3

8:44am Sat 19 Jul 14

We love Red Billy says...

HJarrs wrote:
We love Red Billy wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
fredflintstone1 wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs.

Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead!

Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.
Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council).

Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns.

What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers?

What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer?

As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others.

The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens.

It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...
Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1.

You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals"

Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.
What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment.

Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth?

You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution.

The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has.

And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks.

Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city.

I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone.

Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?
Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!!
As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!!
Hard decisions? No - your Green chums decided themselves that running an effective refuse collection service wasn't their top priority. Hence the vehicles were axed.

This has already been pointed out to you by other people on previous threads. Face facts - the greens would rather spend our money on vanity projects than on ensuring the basic needs of city residents are met.
As has been pointed out to you and the rest of the moanerati on numerous ocassions the vast vast majority of money spent on so-called vanity projects is either from ring-fenced budgets such as the dreaded parking charges being used for transport initiatives or special funding from government etc and is NOT from general council funds that could be used for, say, additional bin-men -yet you know this but you keep repeating the half-truths and lies!!
But its still money out of the UK budget Chaiman Mao.
And would have been spent in other town and cities if Brighton hadn't been successful.
Sounds a bit selfish and Thatcherite Steve.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]We love Red Billy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs. Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead! Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.[/p][/quote]Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council). Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns. What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers? What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer? As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others. The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens. It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...[/p][/quote]Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1. You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals" Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.[/p][/quote]What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment. Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth? You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution. The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has. And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks. Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city. I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone. Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?[/p][/quote]Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!! As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!![/p][/quote]Hard decisions? No - your Green chums decided themselves that running an effective refuse collection service wasn't their top priority. Hence the vehicles were axed. This has already been pointed out to you by other people on previous threads. Face facts - the greens would rather spend our money on vanity projects than on ensuring the basic needs of city residents are met.[/p][/quote]As has been pointed out to you and the rest of the moanerati on numerous ocassions the vast vast majority of money spent on so-called vanity projects is either from ring-fenced budgets such as the dreaded parking charges being used for transport initiatives or special funding from government etc and is NOT from general council funds that could be used for, say, additional bin-men -yet you know this but you keep repeating the half-truths and lies!![/p][/quote]But its still money out of the UK budget Chaiman Mao.[/p][/quote]And would have been spent in other town and cities if Brighton hadn't been successful.[/p][/quote]Sounds a bit selfish and Thatcherite Steve. We love Red Billy
  • Score: -2

1:28pm Sat 19 Jul 14

HJarrs says...

We love Red Billy wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
We love Red Billy wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
fredflintstone1 wrote:
brighton bluenose wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Fercri Sakes wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs.

Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead!

Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.
Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council).

Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns.

What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers?

What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer?

As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others.

The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens.

It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...
Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1.

You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals"

Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.
What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment.

Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth?

You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution.

The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has.

And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks.

Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city.

I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone.

Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?
Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!!
As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!!
Hard decisions? No - your Green chums decided themselves that running an effective refuse collection service wasn't their top priority. Hence the vehicles were axed.

This has already been pointed out to you by other people on previous threads. Face facts - the greens would rather spend our money on vanity projects than on ensuring the basic needs of city residents are met.
As has been pointed out to you and the rest of the moanerati on numerous ocassions the vast vast majority of money spent on so-called vanity projects is either from ring-fenced budgets such as the dreaded parking charges being used for transport initiatives or special funding from government etc and is NOT from general council funds that could be used for, say, additional bin-men -yet you know this but you keep repeating the half-truths and lies!!
But its still money out of the UK budget Chaiman Mao.
And would have been spent in other town and cities if Brighton hadn't been successful.
Sounds a bit selfish and Thatcherite Steve.
That is the system and you voted for the idiots in government. Authorities bid for grant money and, thanks to the quality of our projects, council politicians and officers that back and put the bids together, our city has a high success rate.

It seems you would turn the money away. Very bizarre.
[quote][p][bold]We love Red Billy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]We love Red Billy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fredflintstone1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brighton bluenose[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fercri Sakes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]If we elect the Tories and visitor numbers start falling then the illogical moaners here will still say that the city has been saved from the red menace and that a decline in tourism is good for jobs. Funny how more visitors arrive whilst this "Marxist scum destroying our city" are in charge. People here said that visitors would go elsewhere, never come back, visit Crawley every weekend instead! Just shows how much pro-Right reactionary nonsense is spouted here every day. My bins are fine, other Tory, Labour and LibDem led seaside resorts are really suffering, even if they do have cheaper parking. But no, we should listen to the anti-Green, climate change denying wing nuts spouting their rhubarb on here instead. They know what's best for the city, obviously.[/p][/quote]Your bins are fine, well open your eyes pal, there is obviously an issue in this city with emptying bins (the most simple of tasks for a council). Visitor numbers have nothing to do with the greens, Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns. What exactly have the greens done that would increase visitor numbers? What are Lab/Tory doing in other towns that are making visitor numbers suffer? As I said anything positive you take credit for, anything negative you blame others. The mere fact you have just said 'YOUR' bins are fine just about sums up the issue with the greens, open your eyes and take a look at the overflowing bins all over the City, residents in their hundreds spending their time complaining to the council to get them emptied, as I said the simplest thing for a council to get right. The electorate in this city have been nothing but let down by the incompetent greens. It has nothing to do with anti climate change either, if greens are so bothered about that, why are our recycling rates at an all time low? Dont tell me, its someone elses fault...[/p][/quote]Such a funny response from a user with the name MrBrightside1. You should read the article where it talks about the relative changes in seaside tourism for Brighton and Hove since the recession. "Growth in tourism is 'triple' that of its rivals" Notice the words 'relative', 'since' and 'growth'. You reply that "Brighton has always had better numbers than other coastal towns." Which is true but irrelevant to this article, as we are talking 'growth' not comparing 'totals'.[/p][/quote]What has a screen name got to do with anything? 'Fercri Sakes' Pathetic comment. Noted that it states growth, the question remains the same, what have the greens possibly done to drive that growth? You ignore the comments about the bins, you ignore the comments about residents having to complain daily with no response or resolution. The fact Brighton has always had higher numbers is not irrelevant what so ever, the public are feeling more confident in the economy, of course visitor numbers will begin to rise, and of course they will outstrip other coastal towns, as like I said Brighton always has. And as always any green sock puppet will always try and spin some good news into being their doing, and always blame negative press on a past party or cuts and never accept they are completely incompetent even at the simplest of tasks. Visitors couldn't care less who is running the council here as they don't have to live day in day out with your incompetence and dire management of the city. I think the truth is, the green party have let their electorate down, through so many ways, and that will be reflected in the next local election, and our visitor numbers will continue to grow, in line with the economy long after you incompetent idiots are long gone. Out of interest, you say 'your' bins are fine, are you implying people are making the issue up?[/p][/quote]Positive news about our city in terms of tourism numbers that goes with recent positive news about much needed investment in major projects and the FACT that B&H's economy is one of the better performing ones in the countery - as reported by the Argus - but you still want to whinge! Yeah rubbish collection is poor partly because five dustcarts were taken off the road due to government funding cuts - hard decisions have had to be made due to mismanagement of the nations economy by previous Labour and Tory govenments who have wasted billions on poor procurement or major projects that dont go ahead let alone their getting us into the worst recession for generations!! As for dire management of the city?! How about the last Labour administrations rule led to B&H being known as 'Skid-Row-On-Sea' whilst they put up council tax by 114% - now THAT is dire management!![/p][/quote]Hard decisions? No - your Green chums decided themselves that running an effective refuse collection service wasn't their top priority. Hence the vehicles were axed. This has already been pointed out to you by other people on previous threads. Face facts - the greens would rather spend our money on vanity projects than on ensuring the basic needs of city residents are met.[/p][/quote]As has been pointed out to you and the rest of the moanerati on numerous ocassions the vast vast majority of money spent on so-called vanity projects is either from ring-fenced budgets such as the dreaded parking charges being used for transport initiatives or special funding from government etc and is NOT from general council funds that could be used for, say, additional bin-men -yet you know this but you keep repeating the half-truths and lies!![/p][/quote]But its still money out of the UK budget Chaiman Mao.[/p][/quote]And would have been spent in other town and cities if Brighton hadn't been successful.[/p][/quote]Sounds a bit selfish and Thatcherite Steve.[/p][/quote]That is the system and you voted for the idiots in government. Authorities bid for grant money and, thanks to the quality of our projects, council politicians and officers that back and put the bids together, our city has a high success rate. It seems you would turn the money away. Very bizarre. HJarrs
  • Score: 3

9:40pm Sat 19 Jul 14

The Real Curious George says...

HJarrs wrote:
The Real Curious George wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Please, arrs, shoot yourself. Such tiresome , unevidenced propaganda is getting to be a bit annoying now.
You haven't a politically skeptical bone in your soft and flaccid corpse when it comes to the Greens. That's why we are so tired of your borborygmus-like venting.

The evidence for the Greens epic failure within B&H is all around, delivered to you fresh from the "moanerati", who, be that as it may, do actually have some valid points.
Your tedious automatic nay-saying is actually making you a laughing stock.
If I were you I'd refrain from continuously posting your vacuous perspectives. You are not entitled to an opinion, you are only entitled to an "informed opinion" and I do not believe you have one.
If I am getting right up your nose I must be hitting the right note.

The city is doing far better than comparable authorities around the country. Way ahead of the general economic trend of the country. Whether it be tourism, or jobs both of which you moaners have endlessly told us would not be the case because of the actions of the Greens. Clearly you are consistently wrong. The tourists and businesses are not listening to you. Plenty of free parking in Blackpool though!
Up my nose? so that's how you wish to inform people? You are truly a **** you know that. You and your type have absolutely no respect for anyone but your own party followers....and therein lies your problem.
Idiot.
It's self righteous **** like you that encouraged me to move to the US - you are so far up your own **** that you really don;t know when to shut up.

What a rude ****.
See? I can be rude too.
you are a fool - we all know that.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Real Curious George[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]Please, arrs, shoot yourself. Such tiresome , unevidenced propaganda is getting to be a bit annoying now. You haven't a politically skeptical bone in your soft and flaccid corpse when it comes to the Greens. That's why we are so tired of your borborygmus-like venting. The evidence for the Greens epic failure within B&H is all around, delivered to you fresh from the "moanerati", who, be that as it may, do actually have some valid points. Your tedious automatic nay-saying is actually making you a laughing stock. If I were you I'd refrain from continuously posting your vacuous perspectives. You are not entitled to an opinion, you are only entitled to an "informed opinion" and I do not believe you have one.[/p][/quote]If I am getting right up your nose I must be hitting the right note. The city is doing far better than comparable authorities around the country. Way ahead of the general economic trend of the country. Whether it be tourism, or jobs both of which you moaners have endlessly told us would not be the case because of the actions of the Greens. Clearly you are consistently wrong. The tourists and businesses are not listening to you. Plenty of free parking in Blackpool though![/p][/quote]Up my nose? so that's how you wish to inform people? You are truly a **** you know that. You and your type have absolutely no respect for anyone but your own party followers....and therein lies your problem. Idiot. It's self righteous **** like you that encouraged me to move to the US - you are so far up your own **** that you really don;t know when to shut up. What a rude ****. See? I can be rude too. you are a fool - we all know that. The Real Curious George
  • Score: -1

9:57pm Sat 19 Jul 14

HJarrs says...

The Real Curious George wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
The Real Curious George wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Please, arrs, shoot yourself. Such tiresome , unevidenced propaganda is getting to be a bit annoying now.
You haven't a politically skeptical bone in your soft and flaccid corpse when it comes to the Greens. That's why we are so tired of your borborygmus-like venting.

The evidence for the Greens epic failure within B&H is all around, delivered to you fresh from the "moanerati", who, be that as it may, do actually have some valid points.
Your tedious automatic nay-saying is actually making you a laughing stock.
If I were you I'd refrain from continuously posting your vacuous perspectives. You are not entitled to an opinion, you are only entitled to an "informed opinion" and I do not believe you have one.
If I am getting right up your nose I must be hitting the right note.

The city is doing far better than comparable authorities around the country. Way ahead of the general economic trend of the country. Whether it be tourism, or jobs both of which you moaners have endlessly told us would not be the case because of the actions of the Greens. Clearly you are consistently wrong. The tourists and businesses are not listening to you. Plenty of free parking in Blackpool though!
Up my nose? so that's how you wish to inform people? You are truly a **** you know that. You and your type have absolutely no respect for anyone but your own party followers....and therein lies your problem.
Idiot.
It's self righteous **** like you that encouraged me to move to the US - you are so far up your own **** that you really don;t know when to shut up.

What a rude ****.
See? I can be rude too.
you are a fool - we all know that.
Ha, ha. Now we have the truth. You don't even apparently live in the city, the country or even the continent!

You comments are totally irrelevant if you are living in the US. If you do live several thousand miles away, let me give you a tip. The Argus does not represent nor even report accurately what happens in the city and the moanerati that drag the city down at every opportunity are a tiny minority who find voice in the Argus comments.

The city that you left is coping very well without you.
[quote][p][bold]The Real Curious George[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Real Curious George[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]Please, arrs, shoot yourself. Such tiresome , unevidenced propaganda is getting to be a bit annoying now. You haven't a politically skeptical bone in your soft and flaccid corpse when it comes to the Greens. That's why we are so tired of your borborygmus-like venting. The evidence for the Greens epic failure within B&H is all around, delivered to you fresh from the "moanerati", who, be that as it may, do actually have some valid points. Your tedious automatic nay-saying is actually making you a laughing stock. If I were you I'd refrain from continuously posting your vacuous perspectives. You are not entitled to an opinion, you are only entitled to an "informed opinion" and I do not believe you have one.[/p][/quote]If I am getting right up your nose I must be hitting the right note. The city is doing far better than comparable authorities around the country. Way ahead of the general economic trend of the country. Whether it be tourism, or jobs both of which you moaners have endlessly told us would not be the case because of the actions of the Greens. Clearly you are consistently wrong. The tourists and businesses are not listening to you. Plenty of free parking in Blackpool though![/p][/quote]Up my nose? so that's how you wish to inform people? You are truly a **** you know that. You and your type have absolutely no respect for anyone but your own party followers....and therein lies your problem. Idiot. It's self righteous **** like you that encouraged me to move to the US - you are so far up your own **** that you really don;t know when to shut up. What a rude ****. See? I can be rude too. you are a fool - we all know that.[/p][/quote]Ha, ha. Now we have the truth. You don't even apparently live in the city, the country or even the continent! You comments are totally irrelevant if you are living in the US. If you do live several thousand miles away, let me give you a tip. The Argus does not represent nor even report accurately what happens in the city and the moanerati that drag the city down at every opportunity are a tiny minority who find voice in the Argus comments. The city that you left is coping very well without you. HJarrs
  • Score: 2

1:23pm Sun 20 Jul 14

Kate234 says...

Joshiman wrote:
Rampion nightmare.Eric Pickles you will suffer at the polls next May.Costly,subsidise

d,will not reduce our enegy bills and will be an ugly site.Cannot see Cannes/Nice/Barcelon

a/Marbella/Monaco/Du

brovnik or any other seaside resorts agreeing to this folly.
A total joke. It will cost us as taxpayers over £200 million in subsidies. Produce a fraction of the energy of other energy options and all the profits will be taken to Germany. The newspapers are already questioning what on earth the government was thinking allowing this project. The report approving it also confirms it will have a negative impact on tourism and the environment and create minimal jobs. Those few it creates won't be in Brighton and yet we are likely to lose jobs if instead of looking at a great sea view tourists are force to look at an industrial energy windmill site.
[quote][p][bold]Joshiman[/bold] wrote: Rampion nightmare.Eric Pickles you will suffer at the polls next May.Costly,subsidise d,will not reduce our enegy bills and will be an ugly site.Cannot see Cannes/Nice/Barcelon a/Marbella/Monaco/Du brovnik or any other seaside resorts agreeing to this folly.[/p][/quote]A total joke. It will cost us as taxpayers over £200 million in subsidies. Produce a fraction of the energy of other energy options and all the profits will be taken to Germany. The newspapers are already questioning what on earth the government was thinking allowing this project. The report approving it also confirms it will have a negative impact on tourism and the environment and create minimal jobs. Those few it creates won't be in Brighton and yet we are likely to lose jobs if instead of looking at a great sea view tourists are force to look at an industrial energy windmill site. Kate234
  • Score: -1

1:29pm Sun 20 Jul 14

Kate234 says...

Sussex jim wrote:
If you want see wind farms, go to Skegness. There is a massive array about a mile out.
Having got over the initial visual shock (in about a minute) you can freely enjoy the resort with its bracing air and multitudes of fish and chip shops.
The proposed array off Brighton will be on the distant horizon: if you can see it past the many oil tankers and container ships that ply the English Channel...
Not according to the pictures provided by EON and on the BBC website. These windmills will be very clearly visible in Brighton in large numbers. No one would care if they were in the middle of the English channel. If it had been further out it would have cost even more than the over £200 million in subsidies (as UK taxpayers) we have given to a German utility company to build this monstrous wind farm.
[quote][p][bold]Sussex jim[/bold] wrote: If you want see wind farms, go to Skegness. There is a massive array about a mile out. Having got over the initial visual shock (in about a minute) you can freely enjoy the resort with its bracing air and multitudes of fish and chip shops. The proposed array off Brighton will be on the distant horizon: if you can see it past the many oil tankers and container ships that ply the English Channel...[/p][/quote]Not according to the pictures provided by EON and on the BBC website. These windmills will be very clearly visible in Brighton in large numbers. No one would care if they were in the middle of the English channel. If it had been further out it would have cost even more than the over £200 million in subsidies (as UK taxpayers) we have given to a German utility company to build this monstrous wind farm. Kate234
  • Score: -1

10:48pm Sun 20 Jul 14

HJarrs says...

Kate234 wrote:
Sussex jim wrote:
If you want see wind farms, go to Skegness. There is a massive array about a mile out.
Having got over the initial visual shock (in about a minute) you can freely enjoy the resort with its bracing air and multitudes of fish and chip shops.
The proposed array off Brighton will be on the distant horizon: if you can see it past the many oil tankers and container ships that ply the English Channel...
Not according to the pictures provided by EON and on the BBC website. These windmills will be very clearly visible in Brighton in large numbers. No one would care if they were in the middle of the English channel. If it had been further out it would have cost even more than the over £200 million in subsidies (as UK taxpayers) we have given to a German utility company to build this monstrous wind farm.
They will look great! I saw the wind farm at (not so) Great Yarmouth, it added visual interest. Looking forward to Rampion's construction. Not that the council had much say in the matter.

I think you will find most people will like them or not care that much.

As for cost, I don't defend the funding system that seems to be a bit of corporate welfare, but while electricity from offshore wind is more expensive than PV and onshore wind, it is cheaper than Hinkley Point C nuclear power station that is to be built.
[quote][p][bold]Kate234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sussex jim[/bold] wrote: If you want see wind farms, go to Skegness. There is a massive array about a mile out. Having got over the initial visual shock (in about a minute) you can freely enjoy the resort with its bracing air and multitudes of fish and chip shops. The proposed array off Brighton will be on the distant horizon: if you can see it past the many oil tankers and container ships that ply the English Channel...[/p][/quote]Not according to the pictures provided by EON and on the BBC website. These windmills will be very clearly visible in Brighton in large numbers. No one would care if they were in the middle of the English channel. If it had been further out it would have cost even more than the over £200 million in subsidies (as UK taxpayers) we have given to a German utility company to build this monstrous wind farm.[/p][/quote]They will look great! I saw the wind farm at (not so) Great Yarmouth, it added visual interest. Looking forward to Rampion's construction. Not that the council had much say in the matter. I think you will find most people will like them or not care that much. As for cost, I don't defend the funding system that seems to be a bit of corporate welfare, but while electricity from offshore wind is more expensive than PV and onshore wind, it is cheaper than Hinkley Point C nuclear power station that is to be built. HJarrs
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1:34pm Mon 21 Jul 14

The Real Curious George says...

HJarrs wrote:
The Real Curious George wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
The Real Curious George wrote:
HJarrs wrote:
Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait!

Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy.

And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?
Please, arrs, shoot yourself. Such tiresome , unevidenced propaganda is getting to be a bit annoying now.
You haven't a politically skeptical bone in your soft and flaccid corpse when it comes to the Greens. That's why we are so tired of your borborygmus-like venting.

The evidence for the Greens epic failure within B&H is all around, delivered to you fresh from the "moanerati", who, be that as it may, do actually have some valid points.
Your tedious automatic nay-saying is actually making you a laughing stock.
If I were you I'd refrain from continuously posting your vacuous perspectives. You are not entitled to an opinion, you are only entitled to an "informed opinion" and I do not believe you have one.
If I am getting right up your nose I must be hitting the right note.

The city is doing far better than comparable authorities around the country. Way ahead of the general economic trend of the country. Whether it be tourism, or jobs both of which you moaners have endlessly told us would not be the case because of the actions of the Greens. Clearly you are consistently wrong. The tourists and businesses are not listening to you. Plenty of free parking in Blackpool though!
Up my nose? so that's how you wish to inform people? You are truly a **** you know that. You and your type have absolutely no respect for anyone but your own party followers....and therein lies your problem.
Idiot.
It's self righteous **** like you that encouraged me to move to the US - you are so far up your own **** that you really don;t know when to shut up.

What a rude ****.
See? I can be rude too.
you are a fool - we all know that.
Ha, ha. Now we have the truth. You don't even apparently live in the city, the country or even the continent!

You comments are totally irrelevant if you are living in the US. If you do live several thousand miles away, let me give you a tip. The Argus does not represent nor even report accurately what happens in the city and the moanerati that drag the city down at every opportunity are a tiny minority who find voice in the Argus comments.

The city that you left is coping very well without you.
hey **** - I lived in B&H right up until a few weeks ago. listen to yourself! Such a ****! You really don't the green party any favours and you know, I have succeeded in drawing you out of your nasty little shell.

It's people like you and your intolerant attitudes that encouraged me to move.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Real Curious George[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Real Curious George[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Once again proof positive that this crazy anti-car, cycle lane mad Green administration has ruined the city, it has driven away business and tumble weed now infests North Street just as the moanerati predicted would happen...Wait! Just re-read the article! What is this we find? The city bucks the trend of declining seaside resorts during a savage recession and thousands more jobs have been created and more people are visiting the city. What is wrong with these tourists? Don't they know the Greens have built cycle paths on Lewes Rd and the Old Shoreham Rd! Same with the rest of the city's economy! More jobs, the city is on the up and the council under the Greens are campaigning for improved wages for the lowest paid in our bubbling economy. And did anybody mention the Greater Brighton Deal and the Preston Barracks developments, which will bring hundreds if not thousands of better paid job opportunities for our excellent, creative and highly skilled workforce?[/p][/quote]Please, arrs, shoot yourself. Such tiresome , unevidenced propaganda is getting to be a bit annoying now. You haven't a politically skeptical bone in your soft and flaccid corpse when it comes to the Greens. That's why we are so tired of your borborygmus-like venting. The evidence for the Greens epic failure within B&H is all around, delivered to you fresh from the "moanerati", who, be that as it may, do actually have some valid points. Your tedious automatic nay-saying is actually making you a laughing stock. If I were you I'd refrain from continuously posting your vacuous perspectives. You are not entitled to an opinion, you are only entitled to an "informed opinion" and I do not believe you have one.[/p][/quote]If I am getting right up your nose I must be hitting the right note. The city is doing far better than comparable authorities around the country. Way ahead of the general economic trend of the country. Whether it be tourism, or jobs both of which you moaners have endlessly told us would not be the case because of the actions of the Greens. Clearly you are consistently wrong. The tourists and businesses are not listening to you. Plenty of free parking in Blackpool though![/p][/quote]Up my nose? so that's how you wish to inform people? You are truly a **** you know that. You and your type have absolutely no respect for anyone but your own party followers....and therein lies your problem. Idiot. It's self righteous **** like you that encouraged me to move to the US - you are so far up your own **** that you really don;t know when to shut up. What a rude ****. See? I can be rude too. you are a fool - we all know that.[/p][/quote]Ha, ha. Now we have the truth. You don't even apparently live in the city, the country or even the continent! You comments are totally irrelevant if you are living in the US. If you do live several thousand miles away, let me give you a tip. The Argus does not represent nor even report accurately what happens in the city and the moanerati that drag the city down at every opportunity are a tiny minority who find voice in the Argus comments. The city that you left is coping very well without you.[/p][/quote]hey **** - I lived in B&H right up until a few weeks ago. listen to yourself! Such a ****! You really don't the green party any favours and you know, I have succeeded in drawing you out of your nasty little shell. It's people like you and your intolerant attitudes that encouraged me to move. The Real Curious George
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