Heather Mills’ vegan food firm forced to recall non vegan product

Brighton-based vegan food company forced to recall dairy desserts

Heather Mills

Wot No Dairy

First published in News by , Business editor

A vegan food empire has been forced to recall ‘dairy-free’ desserts – because they may contain milk.

VBites Foods, founded by model Heather Mills in Hove, withdrew its ‘Wot, No Dairy?’ dessert after testing positive to protein.

The company told customers the raspberry and black cherry desserts contained small quantities of milk protein casein – but insisted the contaminated products were not sold in Brighton and there was no health risk.

However, the Food Standards Agency issued an alert, warning: “These products contain milk, making it a possible health risk for anyone who has allergy or intolerance to milk or its constituents.

“If you have bought one of the above products and have an allergy or intolerance to milk, do not eat it. Instead, return it to the store from where you bought it.”

VBites said the line was withdrawn as a precaution and allergy groups had been informed. It blamed the suspected contamination on a third-party manufacturing site.

Bryony Barritt, customer liaison officer, said: “The exact cause or source of the contamination is still under investigation, but the trace quantities found do not pose any health risk.

“As a precaution, VBites Foods will not be supplying any more of these desserts until the source of contamination has been confirmed and the situation has been rectified.

“We apologise to all of our customers who have been affected by this. We are working to restore the supply as quickly as we can.”

The first VBites cafe was opened in Hove Lagoon in 2009 by Ms Mills, ex-wife of Paul McCartney.

She built it into a national food supplier with the purchase of The Redwood Wholefood Company. The Hove cafe has since relocated to East Street in Brighton.

Brighton-based vegan blogger Jojo Huxster said: “I’ve heard of this happening with other vegan-labelled and dairy-free products.

“Small businesses, vegan or not, often have to share production lines with larger companies producing dairy products and sometimes mistakes do happen.

“In my opinion veganism isn’t about complete purity but about doing your best not to consume animal products. VBites has done the right thing by withdrawing the product, mistakes happen and as long as companies are open and up front about it then it doesn't affect my opinion of them.”

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9:56am Thu 24 Jul 14

tykemison says...

Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.
Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons. tykemison
  • Score: 25

10:05am Thu 24 Jul 14

Dan Yack says...

tykemison wrote:
Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.
Slow down buddy, I think Jojo was commenting on the implications for vegans rather than for people with dairy allergies. Two separate issues.
[quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.[/p][/quote]Slow down buddy, I think Jojo was commenting on the implications for vegans rather than for people with dairy allergies. Two separate issues. Dan Yack
  • Score: 2

10:20am Thu 24 Jul 14

cookie_brighton says...

why is Heather Mills not wearing a catering hat whilst stood near uncovered food in the pic.
why is Heather Mills not wearing a catering hat whilst stood near uncovered food in the pic. cookie_brighton
  • Score: 4

10:25am Thu 24 Jul 14

Dan Yack says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
why is Heather Mills not wearing a catering hat whilst stood near uncovered food in the pic.
Do waiters, waitresses and counter staff who work in the cafes that you go to normally wear hats to serve food?!? Oh right yes, they always do in McDonalds.
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: why is Heather Mills not wearing a catering hat whilst stood near uncovered food in the pic.[/p][/quote]Do waiters, waitresses and counter staff who work in the cafes that you go to normally wear hats to serve food?!? Oh right yes, they always do in McDonalds. Dan Yack
  • Score: 6

10:37am Thu 24 Jul 14

tykemison says...

Dan Yack wrote:
tykemison wrote:
Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.
Slow down buddy, I think Jojo was commenting on the implications for vegans rather than for people with dairy allergies. Two separate issues.
No, no, no dan, this half-wit jojo who er blogs!!! Is talking out of his behind"in my opinion veganism is not about complete purity"so might as well have a sausage and egg mcmuffin then, jeez.Also the main point being, if you aim to supply consumers with a specific item which main selling point is to avoid certain other items (in this instance dairy products) then why on Gods earth would you have a"third party"produce these items in a factory producing. .....yep, you have guessed it, the very products your business bases its sales on?? Greedy, incompetent buffoons.
[quote][p][bold]Dan Yack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.[/p][/quote]Slow down buddy, I think Jojo was commenting on the implications for vegans rather than for people with dairy allergies. Two separate issues.[/p][/quote]No, no, no dan, this half-wit jojo who er blogs!!! Is talking out of his behind"in my opinion veganism is not about complete purity"so might as well have a sausage and egg mcmuffin then, jeez.Also the main point being, if you aim to supply consumers with a specific item which main selling point is to avoid certain other items (in this instance dairy products) then why on Gods earth would you have a"third party"produce these items in a factory producing. .....yep, you have guessed it, the very products your business bases its sales on?? Greedy, incompetent buffoons. tykemison
  • Score: 20

11:33am Thu 24 Jul 14

Dan Yack says...

tykemison wrote:
Dan Yack wrote:
tykemison wrote:
Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.
Slow down buddy, I think Jojo was commenting on the implications for vegans rather than for people with dairy allergies. Two separate issues.
No, no, no dan, this half-wit jojo who er blogs!!! Is talking out of his behind"in my opinion veganism is not about complete purity"so might as well have a sausage and egg mcmuffin then, jeez.Also the main point being, if you aim to supply consumers with a specific item which main selling point is to avoid certain other items (in this instance dairy products) then why on Gods earth would you have a"third party"produce these items in a factory producing. .....yep, you have guessed it, the very products your business bases its sales on?? Greedy, incompetent buffoons.
That's just the economics of manufacturing though and the risk of there being a trace amount of cross-contamination is often something that vegans will accept. I know I buy dark chocolate that comes with a warning that it's been produced in a factory that also handles milk. You do the best you can as a consumer, but that's just the reality and not really something I'd lose any sleep over.
[quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Yack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.[/p][/quote]Slow down buddy, I think Jojo was commenting on the implications for vegans rather than for people with dairy allergies. Two separate issues.[/p][/quote]No, no, no dan, this half-wit jojo who er blogs!!! Is talking out of his behind"in my opinion veganism is not about complete purity"so might as well have a sausage and egg mcmuffin then, jeez.Also the main point being, if you aim to supply consumers with a specific item which main selling point is to avoid certain other items (in this instance dairy products) then why on Gods earth would you have a"third party"produce these items in a factory producing. .....yep, you have guessed it, the very products your business bases its sales on?? Greedy, incompetent buffoons.[/p][/quote]That's just the economics of manufacturing though and the risk of there being a trace amount of cross-contamination is often something that vegans will accept. I know I buy dark chocolate that comes with a warning that it's been produced in a factory that also handles milk. You do the best you can as a consumer, but that's just the reality and not really something I'd lose any sleep over. Dan Yack
  • Score: 0

11:52am Thu 24 Jul 14

Man of steel says...

Didn't they have to withdraw one of their vegetarian products, a burger or something' a couple of years ago, because it contained meat?
Didn't they have to withdraw one of their vegetarian products, a burger or something' a couple of years ago, because it contained meat? Man of steel
  • Score: 1

12:06pm Thu 24 Jul 14

tykemison says...

Man of steel wrote:
Didn't they have to withdraw one of their vegetarian products, a burger or something' a couple of years ago, because it contained meat?
Not to fret man of steel, being a vegans an idealism according to the above posters, apparently, cross-contamination is fine as the companies involved need to maximise their profits....sigh, how about voting with your wallet and not purchasing from companies who have moral issues? I really do despair, why dont people have standards anymore and are willing to accept rubbish produce?
[quote][p][bold]Man of steel[/bold] wrote: Didn't they have to withdraw one of their vegetarian products, a burger or something' a couple of years ago, because it contained meat?[/p][/quote]Not to fret man of steel, being a vegans an idealism according to the above posters, apparently, cross-contamination is fine as the companies involved need to maximise their profits....sigh, how about voting with your wallet and not purchasing from companies who have moral issues? I really do despair, why dont people have standards anymore and are willing to accept rubbish produce? tykemison
  • Score: 9

12:09pm Thu 24 Jul 14

tykemison says...

Dan Yack wrote:
tykemison wrote:
Dan Yack wrote:
tykemison wrote:
Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.
Slow down buddy, I think Jojo was commenting on the implications for vegans rather than for people with dairy allergies. Two separate issues.
No, no, no dan, this half-wit jojo who er blogs!!! Is talking out of his behind"in my opinion veganism is not about complete purity"so might as well have a sausage and egg mcmuffin then, jeez.Also the main point being, if you aim to supply consumers with a specific item which main selling point is to avoid certain other items (in this instance dairy products) then why on Gods earth would you have a"third party"produce these items in a factory producing. .....yep, you have guessed it, the very products your business bases its sales on?? Greedy, incompetent buffoons.
That's just the economics of manufacturing though and the risk of there being a trace amount of cross-contamination is often something that vegans will accept. I know I buy dark chocolate that comes with a warning that it's been produced in a factory that also handles milk. You do the best you can as a consumer, but that's just the reality and not really something I'd lose any sleep over.
Unless you suffered from allergies then your sleep my be terminal (penny dropped yet pal?).unforgivable immoral goings on, Heather should hang her head in shame.
[quote][p][bold]Dan Yack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Yack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.[/p][/quote]Slow down buddy, I think Jojo was commenting on the implications for vegans rather than for people with dairy allergies. Two separate issues.[/p][/quote]No, no, no dan, this half-wit jojo who er blogs!!! Is talking out of his behind"in my opinion veganism is not about complete purity"so might as well have a sausage and egg mcmuffin then, jeez.Also the main point being, if you aim to supply consumers with a specific item which main selling point is to avoid certain other items (in this instance dairy products) then why on Gods earth would you have a"third party"produce these items in a factory producing. .....yep, you have guessed it, the very products your business bases its sales on?? Greedy, incompetent buffoons.[/p][/quote]That's just the economics of manufacturing though and the risk of there being a trace amount of cross-contamination is often something that vegans will accept. I know I buy dark chocolate that comes with a warning that it's been produced in a factory that also handles milk. You do the best you can as a consumer, but that's just the reality and not really something I'd lose any sleep over.[/p][/quote]Unless you suffered from allergies then your sleep my be terminal (penny dropped yet pal?).unforgivable immoral goings on, Heather should hang her head in shame. tykemison
  • Score: 7

12:19pm Thu 24 Jul 14

stevo!! . says...

Vegan restaurants, mosques, Gay Pride! What is B&H coming too!
Vegan restaurants, mosques, Gay Pride! What is B&H coming too! stevo!! .
  • Score: -6

12:20pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Dan Yack says...

tykemison wrote:
Dan Yack wrote:
tykemison wrote:
Dan Yack wrote:
tykemison wrote:
Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.
Slow down buddy, I think Jojo was commenting on the implications for vegans rather than for people with dairy allergies. Two separate issues.
No, no, no dan, this half-wit jojo who er blogs!!! Is talking out of his behind"in my opinion veganism is not about complete purity"so might as well have a sausage and egg mcmuffin then, jeez.Also the main point being, if you aim to supply consumers with a specific item which main selling point is to avoid certain other items (in this instance dairy products) then why on Gods earth would you have a"third party"produce these items in a factory producing. .....yep, you have guessed it, the very products your business bases its sales on?? Greedy, incompetent buffoons.
That's just the economics of manufacturing though and the risk of there being a trace amount of cross-contamination is often something that vegans will accept. I know I buy dark chocolate that comes with a warning that it's been produced in a factory that also handles milk. You do the best you can as a consumer, but that's just the reality and not really something I'd lose any sleep over.
Unless you suffered from allergies then your sleep my be terminal (penny dropped yet pal?).unforgivable immoral goings on, Heather should hang her head in shame.
Eh, get a bit of perspective here buckaroo. Is this "campylobacter in two-thirds of UK retail chicken" as the Guardian reported yesterday? Is it a scandal on the same scale as horse meat systematically being sold as beef? Yeah, um, no not really.
[quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Yack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Yack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.[/p][/quote]Slow down buddy, I think Jojo was commenting on the implications for vegans rather than for people with dairy allergies. Two separate issues.[/p][/quote]No, no, no dan, this half-wit jojo who er blogs!!! Is talking out of his behind"in my opinion veganism is not about complete purity"so might as well have a sausage and egg mcmuffin then, jeez.Also the main point being, if you aim to supply consumers with a specific item which main selling point is to avoid certain other items (in this instance dairy products) then why on Gods earth would you have a"third party"produce these items in a factory producing. .....yep, you have guessed it, the very products your business bases its sales on?? Greedy, incompetent buffoons.[/p][/quote]That's just the economics of manufacturing though and the risk of there being a trace amount of cross-contamination is often something that vegans will accept. I know I buy dark chocolate that comes with a warning that it's been produced in a factory that also handles milk. You do the best you can as a consumer, but that's just the reality and not really something I'd lose any sleep over.[/p][/quote]Unless you suffered from allergies then your sleep my be terminal (penny dropped yet pal?).unforgivable immoral goings on, Heather should hang her head in shame.[/p][/quote]Eh, get a bit of perspective here buckaroo. Is this "campylobacter in two-thirds of UK retail chicken" as the Guardian reported yesterday? Is it a scandal on the same scale as horse meat systematically being sold as beef? Yeah, um, no not really. Dan Yack
  • Score: 3

12:21pm Thu 24 Jul 14

rolivan says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
why is Heather Mills not wearing a catering hat whilst stood near uncovered food in the pic.
Not just a catering hat but a hair net also. I hardly ever see hairnets being used in food production areas.
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: why is Heather Mills not wearing a catering hat whilst stood near uncovered food in the pic.[/p][/quote]Not just a catering hat but a hair net also. I hardly ever see hairnets being used in food production areas. rolivan
  • Score: 2

12:55pm Thu 24 Jul 14

FatherTed11 says...

She is a horrible person.
She is a horrible person. FatherTed11
  • Score: -8

1:07pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Hoarder12345444 says...

Hahaha how funny. What an awful diet a Vegan diet must be. Animal protein is good for you! to never have meat or any dairy products must mean you are weak crumbling mess. Absolutely awful. I could never do it. Oh well each to their own I guess.
Hahaha how funny. What an awful diet a Vegan diet must be. Animal protein is good for you! to never have meat or any dairy products must mean you are weak crumbling mess. Absolutely awful. I could never do it. Oh well each to their own I guess. Hoarder12345444
  • Score: -10

1:09pm Thu 24 Jul 14

stevo!! says...

cookie_brighton wrote:
why is Heather Mills not wearing a catering hat whilst stood near uncovered food in the pic.
If anyone took her to court for not wearing one, she wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: why is Heather Mills not wearing a catering hat whilst stood near uncovered food in the pic.[/p][/quote]If anyone took her to court for not wearing one, she wouldn't have a leg to stand on. stevo!!
  • Score: -10

1:42pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Dan Yack says...

Hoarder12345444 wrote:
Hahaha how funny. What an awful diet a Vegan diet must be. Animal protein is good for you! to never have meat or any dairy products must mean you are weak crumbling mess. Absolutely awful. I could never do it. Oh well each to their own I guess.
I would argue with you, but being a health-conscious sort of guy, I tend to avoid donuts.
[quote][p][bold]Hoarder12345444[/bold] wrote: Hahaha how funny. What an awful diet a Vegan diet must be. Animal protein is good for you! to never have meat or any dairy products must mean you are weak crumbling mess. Absolutely awful. I could never do it. Oh well each to their own I guess.[/p][/quote]I would argue with you, but being a health-conscious sort of guy, I tend to avoid donuts. Dan Yack
  • Score: 8

2:19pm Thu 24 Jul 14

BlackRocker says...

tykemison wrote:
Dan Yack wrote:
tykemison wrote:
Dan Yack wrote:
tykemison wrote:
Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.
Slow down buddy, I think Jojo was commenting on the implications for vegans rather than for people with dairy allergies. Two separate issues.
No, no, no dan, this half-wit jojo who er blogs!!! Is talking out of his behind"in my opinion veganism is not about complete purity"so might as well have a sausage and egg mcmuffin then, jeez.Also the main point being, if you aim to supply consumers with a specific item which main selling point is to avoid certain other items (in this instance dairy products) then why on Gods earth would you have a"third party"produce these items in a factory producing. .....yep, you have guessed it, the very products your business bases its sales on?? Greedy, incompetent buffoons.
That's just the economics of manufacturing though and the risk of there being a trace amount of cross-contamination is often something that vegans will accept. I know I buy dark chocolate that comes with a warning that it's been produced in a factory that also handles milk. You do the best you can as a consumer, but that's just the reality and not really something I'd lose any sleep over.
Unless you suffered from allergies then your sleep my be terminal (penny dropped yet pal?).unforgivable immoral goings on, Heather should hang her head in shame.
. . . or, preferably, just hang.
[quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Yack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Yack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.[/p][/quote]Slow down buddy, I think Jojo was commenting on the implications for vegans rather than for people with dairy allergies. Two separate issues.[/p][/quote]No, no, no dan, this half-wit jojo who er blogs!!! Is talking out of his behind"in my opinion veganism is not about complete purity"so might as well have a sausage and egg mcmuffin then, jeez.Also the main point being, if you aim to supply consumers with a specific item which main selling point is to avoid certain other items (in this instance dairy products) then why on Gods earth would you have a"third party"produce these items in a factory producing. .....yep, you have guessed it, the very products your business bases its sales on?? Greedy, incompetent buffoons.[/p][/quote]That's just the economics of manufacturing though and the risk of there being a trace amount of cross-contamination is often something that vegans will accept. I know I buy dark chocolate that comes with a warning that it's been produced in a factory that also handles milk. You do the best you can as a consumer, but that's just the reality and not really something I'd lose any sleep over.[/p][/quote]Unless you suffered from allergies then your sleep my be terminal (penny dropped yet pal?).unforgivable immoral goings on, Heather should hang her head in shame.[/p][/quote]. . . or, preferably, just hang. BlackRocker
  • Score: -4

2:25pm Thu 24 Jul 14

BlackRocker says...

Like many others (including her previous husband, I believe), I've always had an intolerance to Heather Mills. Sadly, she's still here.
Like many others (including her previous husband, I believe), I've always had an intolerance to Heather Mills. Sadly, she's still here. BlackRocker
  • Score: -1

2:42pm Thu 24 Jul 14

tykemison says...

BlackRocker wrote:
tykemison wrote:
Dan Yack wrote:
tykemison wrote:
Dan Yack wrote:
tykemison wrote:
Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.
Slow down buddy, I think Jojo was commenting on the implications for vegans rather than for people with dairy allergies. Two separate issues.
No, no, no dan, this half-wit jojo who er blogs!!! Is talking out of his behind"in my opinion veganism is not about complete purity"so might as well have a sausage and egg mcmuffin then, jeez.Also the main point being, if you aim to supply consumers with a specific item which main selling point is to avoid certain other items (in this instance dairy products) then why on Gods earth would you have a"third party"produce these items in a factory producing. .....yep, you have guessed it, the very products your business bases its sales on?? Greedy, incompetent buffoons.
That's just the economics of manufacturing though and the risk of there being a trace amount of cross-contamination is often something that vegans will accept. I know I buy dark chocolate that comes with a warning that it's been produced in a factory that also handles milk. You do the best you can as a consumer, but that's just the reality and not really something I'd lose any sleep over.
Unless you suffered from allergies then your sleep my be terminal (penny dropped yet pal?).unforgivable immoral goings on, Heather should hang her head in shame.
. . . or, preferably, just hang.
Lol black rocker, did not mean to turn this into a binfest dan yack so we should agree to disagree!! Nowt personal fella, just fed up of people settling for mediocrity (at best) wheres peoples passion? Only reason these companies work in such a contemptible manner is because they know they get no comebacks!! As for the horsemeat scandal ALL the major supermarkets KNEW it was happening but put profits before people:-(
[quote][p][bold]BlackRocker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Yack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Yack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tykemison[/bold] wrote: Wow, jojo huxster, what a mind-blowing statement!! So, the fsa say how serious this is as people have allergies and intolerance to dairy products, then bryony barritt v-bites liason officer!! (YOUR A FOOD SUPPLIER NOT NASA) has the bare faced cheek to say the traces present pose no health risk, er, yes they do you dimwit, but hey ho, jojo the bloghead says the most ridiculous, stupid comment of them all, hows about going back to basics and controlling your production?? Third party companies indeed, you buffoons.[/p][/quote]Slow down buddy, I think Jojo was commenting on the implications for vegans rather than for people with dairy allergies. Two separate issues.[/p][/quote]No, no, no dan, this half-wit jojo who er blogs!!! Is talking out of his behind"in my opinion veganism is not about complete purity"so might as well have a sausage and egg mcmuffin then, jeez.Also the main point being, if you aim to supply consumers with a specific item which main selling point is to avoid certain other items (in this instance dairy products) then why on Gods earth would you have a"third party"produce these items in a factory producing. .....yep, you have guessed it, the very products your business bases its sales on?? Greedy, incompetent buffoons.[/p][/quote]That's just the economics of manufacturing though and the risk of there being a trace amount of cross-contamination is often something that vegans will accept. I know I buy dark chocolate that comes with a warning that it's been produced in a factory that also handles milk. You do the best you can as a consumer, but that's just the reality and not really something I'd lose any sleep over.[/p][/quote]Unless you suffered from allergies then your sleep my be terminal (penny dropped yet pal?).unforgivable immoral goings on, Heather should hang her head in shame.[/p][/quote]. . . or, preferably, just hang.[/p][/quote]Lol black rocker, did not mean to turn this into a binfest dan yack so we should agree to disagree!! Nowt personal fella, just fed up of people settling for mediocrity (at best) wheres peoples passion? Only reason these companies work in such a contemptible manner is because they know they get no comebacks!! As for the horsemeat scandal ALL the major supermarkets KNEW it was happening but put profits before people:-( tykemison
  • Score: 7

3:23pm Thu 24 Jul 14

happybrightonvegan says...

I'd be surprised if someone managed to buy anything in VBites. It is like an oven! You step inside and there's no air conditioning (unless they've changed that since I last went). The food is pretty much the vegan equivalent of fast food (so it's very rich and not very healthy stuff) and the staff there...well all I'll say is some are nice but some should have been sacked ages ago. Most vegans, like myself, don't bother going to VBites. If it's a healthy meal you are after, I'd suggest all the vegan options at Iydea or Infinity! They do decent healthy vegan meals.
I'd be surprised if someone managed to buy anything in VBites. It is like an oven! You step inside and there's no air conditioning (unless they've changed that since I last went). The food is pretty much the vegan equivalent of fast food (so it's very rich and not very healthy stuff) and the staff there...well all I'll say is some are nice but some should have been sacked ages ago. Most vegans, like myself, don't bother going to VBites. If it's a healthy meal you are after, I'd suggest all the vegan options at Iydea or Infinity! They do decent healthy vegan meals. happybrightonvegan
  • Score: 10

3:32pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Goldenwight says...

"In my opinion veganism isn’t about complete purity but about doing your best not to consume animal products."

Really? I think most people would disagree with you- most of the rest of the world believe that veganism is about not consuming animal products. But then most of the rest of the world don't have a stake in profits if they do manage to offend others by producing polluted food.

Would be interesting t hear her views on GM food- both now and 2 years down the line when the company have been forced to withdraw products incorrectly labelled in that respect as well?
"In my opinion veganism isn’t about complete purity but about doing your best not to consume animal products." Really? I think most people would disagree with you- most of the rest of the world believe that veganism is about not consuming animal products. But then most of the rest of the world don't have a stake in profits if they do manage to offend others by producing polluted food. Would be interesting t hear her views on GM food- both now and 2 years down the line when the company have been forced to withdraw products incorrectly labelled in that respect as well? Goldenwight
  • Score: 5

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