Prime Minister backs gay campaigner

George Montague on his scooter during Pride

George Montague on his scooter during Pride

First published in News by , Chief reporter

THE “oldest gay in the village” has received the support of the Prime Minister as he campaigns to have his criminal conviction for being gay overturned.

George Montague, of Marine Parade, Brighton, was convicted of gross indecency in 1974 because of his sexuality. Now aged 91 and a Brighton Pride Ambassador, George has been seeking the help of David Cameron and his local MP Simon Kirby to get his conviction quashed.

Mr Cameron wrote congratulating him on his “commitment to the community” and charity work.

Mr Kirby has asked for the Ministry of Justice’s help to overturn George’s conviction.

George, who was a senior scout commissioner working with disabled children at the time of his conviction, says he is also owed an apology from the Scouting movement for ejecting him.

He said: “I was in the Scout movement for 40 years. I ended up with a conviction and I feel upset and angry. The police were institutionally homophobic at that time and I want an apology from the Scout Association.

“I wrote to the Prime Minister thanking him for getting the gay marriage law passed. I thought it would never go through.

“I was very pleased to receive a personal letter in reply from the Prime Minister?

George, who is regularly spotted on his highly decorated scooter, is preparing for this weekend’s Pride.

He has become famous for his sign “oldest gay in the village”.

He said: “People always ask me ‘how do you know you’re the oldest?’ I don’t really but no one has said they’re older.”

He is busy getting his scooter ready for Saturday – where he will sign copies of his new book The Oldest Gay in the Village in the Access Tent in Preston Park from 2 to 4pm and at Gelateria De Luca ice-cream parlour in St James’ Street from 6pm to 8pm.

The book costs £8.99 from John Blake Publishing.

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7:11am Thu 31 Jul 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

I want to know full details of his 1974 offence before it is quashed.

Scout leader? Hmmm...
I want to know full details of his 1974 offence before it is quashed. Scout leader? Hmmm... Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: -37

7:35am Thu 31 Jul 14

Roy Pennington says...

if you want to know details of the offence, buy the book......
if you want to know details of the offence, buy the book...... Roy Pennington
  • Score: 1

7:59am Thu 31 Jul 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

Roy Pennington wrote:
if you want to know details of the offence, buy the book......
I would never have a book like that in my house! I have a husband and children...
[quote][p][bold]Roy Pennington[/bold] wrote: if you want to know details of the offence, buy the book......[/p][/quote]I would never have a book like that in my house! I have a husband and children... Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: -39

8:33am Thu 31 Jul 14

ThinkBrighton says...

Worked with disabled children, keen scout, did he know Mr Saville.
What exactly was his crime (and i'm not going to waste money on the book)
Worked with disabled children, keen scout, did he know Mr Saville. What exactly was his crime (and i'm not going to waste money on the book) ThinkBrighton
  • Score: -49

9:09am Thu 31 Jul 14

NickBrt says...

I had no idea there were homosexuals in Brighton. I would never have moved here if I knew that!
I had no idea there were homosexuals in Brighton. I would never have moved here if I knew that! NickBrt
  • Score: 16

10:07am Thu 31 Jul 14

Mel Shock says...

I cannot beleive the comments coming from you all !!!! this 2014 not 1970.
Why should it have been illegal to be gay ??? FFS.
His conviction should have quashed years ago and the scout movement was a christian organisation which can be and is quite homophobic, hence his ejection no doubt.

Youlikemyjugs - why would you not have this book in your house ? your children deserve to be educated and turn out balanced and informed, not filled with your phobic ideas.
Grow up and get educated .
I cannot beleive the comments coming from you all !!!! this 2014 not 1970. Why should it have been illegal to be gay ??? FFS. His conviction should have quashed years ago and the scout movement was a christian organisation which can be and is quite homophobic, hence his ejection no doubt. Youlikemyjugs - why would you not have this book in your house ? your children deserve to be educated and turn out balanced and informed, not filled with your phobic ideas. Grow up and get educated . Mel Shock
  • Score: 28

10:15am Thu 31 Jul 14

Serf says...

ThinkBrighton wrote:
Worked with disabled children, keen scout, did he know Mr Saville.
What exactly was his crime (and i'm not going to waste money on the book)
Because he is gay you seem to assume he is a paedophile. What a warped mind you have. A gay man is no more or no less likely to be a child molester than a hetrosexual.
[quote][p][bold]ThinkBrighton[/bold] wrote: Worked with disabled children, keen scout, did he know Mr Saville. What exactly was his crime (and i'm not going to waste money on the book)[/p][/quote]Because he is gay you seem to assume he is a paedophile. What a warped mind you have. A gay man is no more or no less likely to be a child molester than a hetrosexual. Serf
  • Score: 28

10:33am Thu 31 Jul 14

Andy R says...

Someone calling themselves "youlikemyjugs" turns out to be a bit repressed. Who'd have thought............?
Someone calling themselves "youlikemyjugs" turns out to be a bit repressed. Who'd have thought............? Andy R
  • Score: 16

10:42am Thu 31 Jul 14

south1919 says...

Another case of 'look at me I'm gay' get over yourself man (ish) .
Pathetic really
Another case of 'look at me I'm gay' get over yourself man (ish) . Pathetic really south1919
  • Score: -20

10:52am Thu 31 Jul 14

Cyril Bolleaux says...

Mel Shock wrote:
I cannot beleive the comments coming from you all !!!! this 2014 not 1970. Why should it have been illegal to be gay ??? FFS. His conviction should have quashed years ago and the scout movement was a christian organisation which can be and is quite homophobic, hence his ejection no doubt. Youlikemyjugs - why would you not have this book in your house ? your children deserve to be educated and turn out balanced and informed, not filled with your phobic ideas. Grow up and get educated .
It was not illegal to be gay however certain sexual acts were illegal. No-one has ever been convicted of "being gay".

I see, despite this being 2014, that you are quite happy to smear christians. Why don't you educate yourself about christianity rather than lecturing others?
[quote][p][bold]Mel Shock[/bold] wrote: I cannot beleive the comments coming from you all !!!! this 2014 not 1970. Why should it have been illegal to be gay ??? FFS. His conviction should have quashed years ago and the scout movement was a christian organisation which can be and is quite homophobic, hence his ejection no doubt. Youlikemyjugs - why would you not have this book in your house ? your children deserve to be educated and turn out balanced and informed, not filled with your phobic ideas. Grow up and get educated .[/p][/quote]It was not illegal to be gay however certain sexual acts were illegal. No-one has ever been convicted of "being gay". I see, despite this being 2014, that you are quite happy to smear christians. Why don't you educate yourself about christianity rather than lecturing others? Cyril Bolleaux
  • Score: -17

11:22am Thu 31 Jul 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

Mel Shock wrote:
I cannot beleive the comments coming from you all !!!! this 2014 not 1970.
Why should it have been illegal to be gay ??? FFS.
His conviction should have quashed years ago and the scout movement was a christian organisation which can be and is quite homophobic, hence his ejection no doubt.

Youlikemyjugs - why would you not have this book in your house ? your children deserve to be educated and turn out balanced and informed, not filled with your phobic ideas.
Grow up and get educated .
What I choose to have is my concern. Children don't need to read about toilet escapades, thank you very much...

I entirely support the gay movement incidentally as far as gaining respect and freedom from prosecution is concerned. Our society would be very diluted in terms of literature, music, art and general tolerance if it were not for gay men and women...

What I don't like is, well - what the gay movement seems to have become in places like Brighton where the entire local agenda seems to be dominated by their voices.
[quote][p][bold]Mel Shock[/bold] wrote: I cannot beleive the comments coming from you all !!!! this 2014 not 1970. Why should it have been illegal to be gay ??? FFS. His conviction should have quashed years ago and the scout movement was a christian organisation which can be and is quite homophobic, hence his ejection no doubt. Youlikemyjugs - why would you not have this book in your house ? your children deserve to be educated and turn out balanced and informed, not filled with your phobic ideas. Grow up and get educated .[/p][/quote]What I choose to have is my concern. Children don't need to read about toilet escapades, thank you very much... I entirely support the gay movement incidentally as far as gaining respect and freedom from prosecution is concerned. Our society would be very diluted in terms of literature, music, art and general tolerance if it were not for gay men and women... What I don't like is, well - what the gay movement seems to have become in places like Brighton where the entire local agenda seems to be dominated by their voices. Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: -6

11:57am Thu 31 Jul 14

Mel Shock says...

Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
Mel Shock wrote:
I cannot beleive the comments coming from you all !!!! this 2014 not 1970. Why should it have been illegal to be gay ??? FFS. His conviction should have quashed years ago and the scout movement was a christian organisation which can be and is quite homophobic, hence his ejection no doubt. Youlikemyjugs - why would you not have this book in your house ? your children deserve to be educated and turn out balanced and informed, not filled with your phobic ideas. Grow up and get educated .
It was not illegal to be gay however certain sexual acts were illegal. No-one has ever been convicted of "being gay".

I see, despite this being 2014, that you are quite happy to smear christians. Why don't you educate yourself about christianity rather than lecturing others?
OK maybe not illegal but it was very easy to be convicted and not be out and free about who you really are. Many people were trapped in marriages or got married to save face and try and be straight when in their heart of hearts they knew they were gay. The youngsters don't have as much of a struggle on their hands as the the older generation did. I have many friends who have trod this path and can now be who they really are, which is a normal human being with feelings and a prefernce for the same sex. I do not see the issue with that.

Youlikemyjugs - Apologies but your first comment fell short of saying that ! hence my reply to you. I don't feel that the local agenda is biaised towards our gay population ? How so ?

I did not smear Christians only the truth in that like most religions, they CAN be homophobic and intolerant..........
not all sections of any religion will be as it depends on how they as an individual have interpreted the 'book'.
[quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mel Shock[/bold] wrote: I cannot beleive the comments coming from you all !!!! this 2014 not 1970. Why should it have been illegal to be gay ??? FFS. His conviction should have quashed years ago and the scout movement was a christian organisation which can be and is quite homophobic, hence his ejection no doubt. Youlikemyjugs - why would you not have this book in your house ? your children deserve to be educated and turn out balanced and informed, not filled with your phobic ideas. Grow up and get educated .[/p][/quote]It was not illegal to be gay however certain sexual acts were illegal. No-one has ever been convicted of "being gay". I see, despite this being 2014, that you are quite happy to smear christians. Why don't you educate yourself about christianity rather than lecturing others?[/p][/quote]OK maybe not illegal but it was very easy to be convicted and not be out and free about who you really are. Many people were trapped in marriages or got married to save face and try and be straight when in their heart of hearts they knew they were gay. The youngsters don't have as much of a struggle on their hands as the the older generation did. I have many friends who have trod this path and can now be who they really are, which is a normal human being with feelings and a prefernce for the same sex. I do not see the issue with that. Youlikemyjugs - Apologies but your first comment fell short of saying that ! hence my reply to you. I don't feel that the local agenda is biaised towards our gay population ? How so ? I did not smear Christians only the truth in that like most religions, they CAN be homophobic and intolerant.......... not all sections of any religion will be as it depends on how they as an individual have interpreted the 'book'. Mel Shock
  • Score: 6

2:20pm Thu 31 Jul 14

concernedofBrighton says...

If people can be convicted for offences today, that happened 30/40 years ago, why should someone who was correctly convicted under the then law have his conviction quashed today? Surely both examples are, and should remain convicts.

Mark me me down, my opinion won't change one iota.
If people can be convicted for offences today, that happened 30/40 years ago, why should someone who was correctly convicted under the then law have his conviction quashed today? Surely both examples are, and should remain convicts. Mark me me down, my opinion won't change one iota. concernedofBrighton
  • Score: 6

5:09pm Thu 31 Jul 14

KarenT says...

All religion is equally stupid, and the cause of most of all the worlds' problems.
All religion is equally stupid, and the cause of most of all the worlds' problems. KarenT
  • Score: 2

5:15pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Morpheus says...

Gross indecency is not a charge that is specifically related to his sexually. It is a charge related to his unacceptable behaviour in public.
Gross indecency is not a charge that is specifically related to his sexually. It is a charge related to his unacceptable behaviour in public. Morpheus
  • Score: 1

5:30pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

KarenT wrote:
All religion is equally stupid, and the cause of most of all the worlds' problems.
Oh Lord, the banality of some people's ignorance! The apostrophe comes before the s, not after it ("worlds' problems" (sic)). Eight-year old children are taught this at school.

So - to recap, it is the "world's problems", my dear - unless you think there is more than one world?

Oh, dear. David Cameron is right when he talks about the "unschooled generation".

I agree with your general point, however - despite it being rather trite.

I do worry about you...
[quote][p][bold]KarenT[/bold] wrote: All religion is equally stupid, and the cause of most of all the worlds' problems.[/p][/quote]Oh Lord, the banality of some people's ignorance! The apostrophe comes before the s, not after it ("worlds' problems" (sic)). Eight-year old children are taught this at school. So - to recap, it is the "world's problems", my dear - unless you think there is more than one world? Oh, dear. David Cameron is right when he talks about the "unschooled generation". I agree with your general point, however - despite it being rather trite. I do worry about you... Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: -2

6:56pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Cyril Bolleaux says...

Mel Shock wrote:
Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
Mel Shock wrote:
I cannot beleive the comments coming from you all !!!! this 2014 not 1970. Why should it have been illegal to be gay ??? FFS. His conviction should have quashed years ago and the scout movement was a christian organisation which can be and is quite homophobic, hence his ejection no doubt. Youlikemyjugs - why would you not have this book in your house ? your children deserve to be educated and turn out balanced and informed, not filled with your phobic ideas. Grow up and get educated .
It was not illegal to be gay however certain sexual acts were illegal. No-one has ever been convicted of "being gay".

I see, despite this being 2014, that you are quite happy to smear christians. Why don't you educate yourself about christianity rather than lecturing others?
OK maybe not illegal but it was very easy to be convicted and not be out and free about who you really are. Many people were trapped in marriages or got married to save face and try and be straight when in their heart of hearts they knew they were gay. The youngsters don't have as much of a struggle on their hands as the the older generation did. I have many friends who have trod this path and can now be who they really are, which is a normal human being with feelings and a prefernce for the same sex. I do not see the issue with that.

Youlikemyjugs - Apologies but your first comment fell short of saying that ! hence my reply to you. I don't feel that the local agenda is biaised towards our gay population ? How so ?

I did not smear Christians only the truth in that like most religions, they CAN be homophobic and intolerant..........

not all sections of any religion will be as it depends on how they as an individual have interpreted the 'book'.
Fair enough but it is also true that Brighton has more than it's fair share of anti-Christian bigots. The Green Council appointed a man who persecuted Christians as the Head of what it called "Equalities" and you need only read the comments in the Argus to see that these bigots are welcomed in the Argus comment sections.
[quote][p][bold]Mel Shock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mel Shock[/bold] wrote: I cannot beleive the comments coming from you all !!!! this 2014 not 1970. Why should it have been illegal to be gay ??? FFS. His conviction should have quashed years ago and the scout movement was a christian organisation which can be and is quite homophobic, hence his ejection no doubt. Youlikemyjugs - why would you not have this book in your house ? your children deserve to be educated and turn out balanced and informed, not filled with your phobic ideas. Grow up and get educated .[/p][/quote]It was not illegal to be gay however certain sexual acts were illegal. No-one has ever been convicted of "being gay". I see, despite this being 2014, that you are quite happy to smear christians. Why don't you educate yourself about christianity rather than lecturing others?[/p][/quote]OK maybe not illegal but it was very easy to be convicted and not be out and free about who you really are. Many people were trapped in marriages or got married to save face and try and be straight when in their heart of hearts they knew they were gay. The youngsters don't have as much of a struggle on their hands as the the older generation did. I have many friends who have trod this path and can now be who they really are, which is a normal human being with feelings and a prefernce for the same sex. I do not see the issue with that. Youlikemyjugs - Apologies but your first comment fell short of saying that ! hence my reply to you. I don't feel that the local agenda is biaised towards our gay population ? How so ? I did not smear Christians only the truth in that like most religions, they CAN be homophobic and intolerant.......... not all sections of any religion will be as it depends on how they as an individual have interpreted the 'book'.[/p][/quote]Fair enough but it is also true that Brighton has more than it's fair share of anti-Christian bigots. The Green Council appointed a man who persecuted Christians as the Head of what it called "Equalities" and you need only read the comments in the Argus to see that these bigots are welcomed in the Argus comment sections. Cyril Bolleaux
  • Score: -1

6:57pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Hove marauder says...

Morpheus wrote:
Gross indecency is not a charge that is specifically related to his sexually. It is a charge related to his unacceptable behaviour in public.
So, if this is the case, why should his conviction be quashed? Well said Morpheus. I was disappointed to see our Prime Minister jumping in on such an issue.
[quote][p][bold]Morpheus[/bold] wrote: Gross indecency is not a charge that is specifically related to his sexually. It is a charge related to his unacceptable behaviour in public.[/p][/quote]So, if this is the case, why should his conviction be quashed? Well said Morpheus. I was disappointed to see our Prime Minister jumping in on such an issue. Hove marauder
  • Score: -1

12:58am Fri 1 Aug 14

High Wire says...

Cyril Bolleaux wrote:
Mel Shock wrote:
I cannot beleive the comments coming from you all !!!! this 2014 not 1970. Why should it have been illegal to be gay ??? FFS. His conviction should have quashed years ago and the scout movement was a christian organisation which can be and is quite homophobic, hence his ejection no doubt. Youlikemyjugs - why would you not have this book in your house ? your children deserve to be educated and turn out balanced and informed, not filled with your phobic ideas. Grow up and get educated .
It was not illegal to be gay however certain sexual acts were illegal. No-one has ever been convicted of "being gay".

I see, despite this being 2014, that you are quite happy to smear christians. Why don't you educate yourself about christianity rather than lecturing others?
Good God, man - how WOULD you define "being gay" if sexual attraction is not involved? As long as all gay men were camp, non-sexual stereotypes then that's ok??

To help you with the facts, one man could have been convicted of an offence without even touching another man - if you need recommendations for legal reading material let me know...

With little due respect, the Christian churches have more than held their own when it comes to lecturing gay people. Try a Google search on gay marriage if you don't believe me.
[quote][p][bold]Cyril Bolleaux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mel Shock[/bold] wrote: I cannot beleive the comments coming from you all !!!! this 2014 not 1970. Why should it have been illegal to be gay ??? FFS. His conviction should have quashed years ago and the scout movement was a christian organisation which can be and is quite homophobic, hence his ejection no doubt. Youlikemyjugs - why would you not have this book in your house ? your children deserve to be educated and turn out balanced and informed, not filled with your phobic ideas. Grow up and get educated .[/p][/quote]It was not illegal to be gay however certain sexual acts were illegal. No-one has ever been convicted of "being gay". I see, despite this being 2014, that you are quite happy to smear christians. Why don't you educate yourself about christianity rather than lecturing others?[/p][/quote]Good God, man - how WOULD you define "being gay" if sexual attraction is not involved? As long as all gay men were camp, non-sexual stereotypes then that's ok?? To help you with the facts, one man could have been convicted of an offence without even touching another man - if you need recommendations for legal reading material let me know... With little due respect, the Christian churches have more than held their own when it comes to lecturing gay people. Try a Google search on gay marriage if you don't believe me. High Wire
  • Score: 4

11:33am Sat 2 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

There must be loads of people with historic convictions for all sorts of things on which the law has subsequently changed. Same with sentencing - look at the recent celebrity cases - all got lenient sentences because judge could only sentence by the law in force at time of offences not the current law. You can't go back changing everyone's convivictions and sentences every time the law changes.
You have to live by the law of the land - whether you agree with it or not. Fact is this this man committed a criminal offence and was punished in accord with the law at that time. What's wrong with that.
Gross indecency in a public place - the fact they turn a blndf eye to these acts involving homosexuals today is irrelevant. There will be a lot of what this man did going on at Pride this weekend. Get a room. There's a time and a place ..
There must be loads of people with historic convictions for all sorts of things on which the law has subsequently changed. Same with sentencing - look at the recent celebrity cases - all got lenient sentences because judge could only sentence by the law in force at time of offences not the current law. You can't go back changing everyone's convivictions and sentences every time the law changes. You have to live by the law of the land - whether you agree with it or not. Fact is this this man committed a criminal offence and was punished in accord with the law at that time. What's wrong with that. Gross indecency in a public place - the fact they turn a blndf eye to these acts involving homosexuals today is irrelevant. There will be a lot of what this man did going on at Pride this weekend. Get a room. There's a time and a place .. sussexram40
  • Score: 0

12:39pm Sat 2 Aug 14

FatherTed11 says...

A truly disgusting man.
A truly disgusting man. FatherTed11
  • Score: 3

4:51pm Sat 2 Aug 14

stevo!! says...

Why would a conviction for gross indecency in 1974 be quashed on the grounds of sexual orientation?

He broke the law applicable in 1974. He wasn't convicted for being a homo. He was convicted for being a sexual deviant. The conviction should stand.

Let's be grateful he isn't a danger to others in 2014.
Why would a conviction for gross indecency in 1974 be quashed on the grounds of sexual orientation? He broke the law applicable in 1974. He wasn't convicted for being a homo. He was convicted for being a sexual deviant. The conviction should stand. Let's be grateful he isn't a danger to others in 2014. stevo!!
  • Score: 0

6:16am Sun 3 Aug 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

FatherTed11 wrote:
A truly disgusting man.
Truly disgusting...
[quote][p][bold]FatherTed11[/bold] wrote: A truly disgusting man.[/p][/quote]Truly disgusting... Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: 1

10:51am Tue 5 Aug 14

Roy Pennington says...

read page 144 ect about the "gross indecency"

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  • Score: 0

8:58am Tue 19 Aug 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

I apologise for saying unkind things about this man. Now I low more I realise he is very brave!
I apologise for saying unkind things about this man. Now I low more I realise he is very brave! Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: 3

9:24am Wed 20 Aug 14

Youlikęmyjugs says...

I realise I have been really unpleasant in many of posts. My partner has made me understand how nasty and unkind I have been in some of my comments. I see that some people will not accept my apology and some won't care either way, but I wish I had not been so forthright. Some people are still being really nasty on this thread, and I just hope they can have the realisation I had that we should conduct ourselves better. (I put my original username out of use as a result but created this one to issue this apology.
I realise I have been really unpleasant in many of posts. My partner has made me understand how nasty and unkind I have been in some of my comments. I see that some people will not accept my apology and some won't care either way, but I wish I had not been so forthright. Some people are still being really nasty on this thread, and I just hope they can have the realisation I had that we should conduct ourselves better. (I put my original username out of use as a result but created this one to issue this apology. Youlikęmyjugs
  • Score: 3

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