Worry over 'very drunk' and 'vulnerable' foreign students

Coun Graham Cox

Coun Graham Cox

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Language students from overseas are putting themselves in a vulnerable position and causing disturbances to residents, councillors have warned.

Residents have complained that revellers are urinating in their front gardens as well as shouting and sing-ing as they walk to bus stops on Thursdays between midnight and 3am.

Councillors are concerned for the safety of students who may have only been in the city a matter of days and lack a good level of English.

They believe the problems arise when students leave specially arranged events at The View club on Hove seafront.

But venue bosses say the issue is exaggerated and they are not to blame. Sussex Police are looking to find a solution to the alleged problem, which could see buses laid-on especially to take the students back to their language schools.

Westbourne councillor Graham Cox, pictured, said he and his colleague Denise Cobb had received “many complaints” about noise and disturbance late at night in the streets between the seafront and New Church Road.

Brighton and Hove City Council’s licensing team has responded by carrying out an inspection at The View.

Coun Cox said: “We are obviously concerned at the disturbance to residents but we are also worried about the welfare of young students who are here on short English-language courses.

“Some are very drunk and, we think, vulnerable.”

Club owner Ali Kosari said: “We have been running events for foreign language students for the last 15 years and have not had any complaints from residents in the past.

“With our function room and restaurant we have less capacity now. These are not parties of hundreds of people.

“Students could be drunk – but not from our event.”

A Sussex Police spokesman said officers were “actively following up” complaints of antisocial behaviour believed to involve foreign students after they have left events at The View nightclub.

Sergeant Simon Morgan, of Brighton and Hove police licensing unit, said: “In the past, when the premises was known as the Babylon Lounge it ran a bus service to take students to and fro.

“One suggestion would be to see if the bus could be re-introduced to take students at the end of their evening.”

Mr Kosari said buses had been arranged in the past but weren’t “cost-effective” as very few students want to use them.

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4:16pm Thu 31 Jul 14

s&k says...

If they're not safe then the city is letting them down. They're visitors and of course they're vulnerable- but what does this say about the state of Brighton?
If they're not safe then the city is letting them down. They're visitors and of course they're vulnerable- but what does this say about the state of Brighton? s&k
  • Score: 9

4:29pm Thu 31 Jul 14

calro75 says...

Corral them and make them get on buses so they can get home safely. If they're not compliant then don't let them into the club again. If they're given these rules at the beginning of the evening the majority would probably be happy to have transport home.
Corral them and make them get on buses so they can get home safely. If they're not compliant then don't let them into the club again. If they're given these rules at the beginning of the evening the majority would probably be happy to have transport home. calro75
  • Score: 3

6:16pm Thu 31 Jul 14

stevo!! . says...

There's too many foreigners in Brighton anyway. We're full.

Vote UKIP.
There's too many foreigners in Brighton anyway. We're full. Vote UKIP. stevo!! .
  • Score: -20

8:14pm Thu 31 Jul 14

MrsKray says...

You can't walk through North Street or Churchill Square without being swept away by a tidal wave of rude foreign people and their orange bags. I usually welcome them all but this year there seems to be swarms of them absolutely everywhere. It's too much.

Also, don't vote UKIP. Don't vote anyone whilst we're at it, none of them care about you or anyone.
You can't walk through North Street or Churchill Square without being swept away by a tidal wave of rude foreign people and their orange bags. I usually welcome them all but this year there seems to be swarms of them absolutely everywhere. It's too much. Also, don't vote UKIP. Don't vote anyone whilst we're at it, none of them care about you or anyone. MrsKray
  • Score: -2

8:52pm Thu 31 Jul 14

David523 says...

Wow the hypocrisy here is astonishing and says everything about modern UK, ie, dont DARE criticise or even COMMENT about women getting drunk and putting themselves at risk of rape, or having ANY ability to affect chance and risk -but its FINE to be racist and blame foreign students who are attacked for bringing it on themselves!

No surprise the hughest growing numbers of UKIP members in UK are coincidentally WOMEN, while the same goes for extreme Right wing groups like EDL and Britain First.

Welcome to a reversal of UK 1970s, where women lead the way with hatred and sexist hypocrisy, especially the feminists who, hilariously, claim to stand for EQUALITY! (Anyone who believes the 'equality' excuse seriously needs help).
Wow the hypocrisy here is astonishing and says everything about modern UK, ie, dont DARE criticise or even COMMENT about women getting drunk and putting themselves at risk of rape, or having ANY ability to affect chance and risk -but its FINE to be racist and blame foreign students who are attacked for bringing it on themselves! No surprise the hughest growing numbers of UKIP members in UK are coincidentally WOMEN, while the same goes for extreme Right wing groups like EDL and Britain First. Welcome to a reversal of UK 1970s, where women lead the way with hatred and sexist hypocrisy, especially the feminists who, hilariously, claim to stand for EQUALITY! (Anyone who believes the 'equality' excuse seriously needs help). David523
  • Score: -8

10:27pm Thu 31 Jul 14

NickBrt says...

ALL students in Brighton are a complete nuisance despite what Green apologists will claim.
ALL students in Brighton are a complete nuisance despite what Green apologists will claim. NickBrt
  • Score: 7

11:23pm Thu 31 Jul 14

hubby says...

Only on Thursdays??
You should live here in my bit of Spain and see the drunken,tattood British slags and thugs of all ages we have to put up with every day and night of the week.
Only on Thursdays?? You should live here in my bit of Spain and see the drunken,tattood British slags and thugs of all ages we have to put up with every day and night of the week. hubby
  • Score: 14

1:33am Fri 1 Aug 14

whatevernext2013 says...

s&k wrote:
If they're not safe then the city is letting them down. They're visitors and of course they're vulnerable- but what does this say about the state of Brighton?
what lets them down is the schools that hold these events ,far too many of the students only have a limited knowledge of how to get to there hosts address ,there is normally a huge amount of the students hanging around churchill square and the clock tower late at night and in too the early hours of the morning ,one wonders were some of these children get the alcohol they consume on the streets of brighton
[quote][p][bold]s&k[/bold] wrote: If they're not safe then the city is letting them down. They're visitors and of course they're vulnerable- but what does this say about the state of Brighton?[/p][/quote]what lets them down is the schools that hold these events ,far too many of the students only have a limited knowledge of how to get to there hosts address ,there is normally a huge amount of the students hanging around churchill square and the clock tower late at night and in too the early hours of the morning ,one wonders were some of these children get the alcohol they consume on the streets of brighton whatevernext2013
  • Score: 9

1:37am Fri 1 Aug 14

whatevernext2013 says...

hubby wrote:
Only on Thursdays??
You should live here in my bit of Spain and see the drunken,tattood British slags and thugs of all ages we have to put up with every day and night of the week.
that s a terrible way to talk about your family and friends , i knew spain was cheap ,but how much did you pick up your bit of it for ?
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: Only on Thursdays?? You should live here in my bit of Spain and see the drunken,tattood British slags and thugs of all ages we have to put up with every day and night of the week.[/p][/quote]that s a terrible way to talk about your family and friends , i knew spain was cheap ,but how much did you pick up your bit of it for ? whatevernext2013
  • Score: 12

7:00am Fri 1 Aug 14

Wide Bertha says...

s&k wrote:
If they're not safe then the city is letting them down. They're visitors and of course they're vulnerable- but what does this say about the state of Brighton?
it says we might finally soon be able to walk past a bus stop without having to step into the road due to the legions of students blocking the pavements....
[quote][p][bold]s&k[/bold] wrote: If they're not safe then the city is letting them down. They're visitors and of course they're vulnerable- but what does this say about the state of Brighton?[/p][/quote]it says we might finally soon be able to walk past a bus stop without having to step into the road due to the legions of students blocking the pavements.... Wide Bertha
  • Score: 8

7:39am Fri 1 Aug 14

Old Ale Man says...

Visiting students are a asset to this town, they actualy spend money here, unlike those attending the universities who spend next to nothing and they're not contributing anything into the system by way of council tax and are allowed 2 votes at election times, thats why you get a load of loony cabbages running the council!!
Visiting students are a asset to this town, they actualy spend money here, unlike those attending the universities who spend next to nothing and they're not contributing anything into the system by way of council tax and are allowed 2 votes at election times, thats why you get a load of loony cabbages running the council!! Old Ale Man
  • Score: -2

8:08am Fri 1 Aug 14

s&k says...

whatevernext2013 wrote:
s&k wrote: If they're not safe then the city is letting them down. They're visitors and of course they're vulnerable- but what does this say about the state of Brighton?
what lets them down is the schools that hold these events ,far too many of the students only have a limited knowledge of how to get to there hosts address ,there is normally a huge amount of the students hanging around churchill square and the clock tower late at night and in too the early hours of the morning ,one wonders were some of these children get the alcohol they consume on the streets of brighton
I've never seen a drunken foreign student and I've lived here nearly 20 years. Are you sure they weren't drunken British students? Now there's another story.
[quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s&k[/bold] wrote: If they're not safe then the city is letting them down. They're visitors and of course they're vulnerable- but what does this say about the state of Brighton?[/p][/quote]what lets them down is the schools that hold these events ,far too many of the students only have a limited knowledge of how to get to there hosts address ,there is normally a huge amount of the students hanging around churchill square and the clock tower late at night and in too the early hours of the morning ,one wonders were some of these children get the alcohol they consume on the streets of brighton[/p][/quote]I've never seen a drunken foreign student and I've lived here nearly 20 years. Are you sure they weren't drunken British students? Now there's another story. s&k
  • Score: -6

9:48am Fri 1 Aug 14

localboy78 says...

I live in Sackville Gardens and we have to endure constantly being woken up between 12am-3am every Thursday night by students leaving the View bar on Kingsway. They walk up Sackville Gardens and Westbourne Villas on their way to the bus stop on New Church Road and are unbelievably loud - singing and shouting and screaming. This wakes up many residents constantly throughout the night, and I know some of them have had to spend Thursday nights staying with friends because of the constant disturbance.

The View bar seems to think it is acceptable to run party nights on a Thursday night in a residential area. Why on earth don't they have these parties in central Brighton??

It is totally unacceptable for the View bar to encourage these parties as they obviously have absolutely no regard whatsoever for the residents who live in the streets leading up to New Church Road.

As for the students, they show a complete and utter lack of respect by singing, talking loudly, and shouting whilst walking through residential streets at 3am in the morning. In a town centre location maybe, but not in suburban Hove.

Mr Kosari is only thinking about profit. He couldn't care less about the upset caused to residents in the area. If these Thursday night events continue, residents will be taking matters into their own hands to actively discourage students from attending the parties. We have already managed to persuade a number of local language schools to cease publicising the parties at their schools and believe me it won't stop there.
I live in Sackville Gardens and we have to endure constantly being woken up between 12am-3am every Thursday night by students leaving the View bar on Kingsway. They walk up Sackville Gardens and Westbourne Villas on their way to the bus stop on New Church Road and are unbelievably loud - singing and shouting and screaming. This wakes up many residents constantly throughout the night, and I know some of them have had to spend Thursday nights staying with friends because of the constant disturbance. The View bar seems to think it is acceptable to run party nights on a Thursday night in a residential area. Why on earth don't they have these parties in central Brighton?? It is totally unacceptable for the View bar to encourage these parties as they obviously have absolutely no regard whatsoever for the residents who live in the streets leading up to New Church Road. As for the students, they show a complete and utter lack of respect by singing, talking loudly, and shouting whilst walking through residential streets at 3am in the morning. In a town centre location maybe, but not in suburban Hove. Mr Kosari is only thinking about profit. He couldn't care less about the upset caused to residents in the area. If these Thursday night events continue, residents will be taking matters into their own hands to actively discourage students from attending the parties. We have already managed to persuade a number of local language schools to cease publicising the parties at their schools and believe me it won't stop there. localboy78
  • Score: 9

9:53am Fri 1 Aug 14

localboy78 says...

Oh, and Mr Kosari is completely deluded if he things that it isn't the students from his venue causing the problem because a group of residents (including myself) have followed students going to and from the View bar and have even filmed them as they walk along the street in their noisy groups. We've confronted many of them and asked them which language schools they are from and where are they going to and why, and the answer is always that they are going to, or have come from, the 'International Students Party night' at the View bar!
Oh, and Mr Kosari is completely deluded if he things that it isn't the students from his venue causing the problem because a group of residents (including myself) have followed students going to and from the View bar and have even filmed them as they walk along the street in their noisy groups. We've confronted many of them and asked them which language schools they are from and where are they going to and why, and the answer is always that they are going to, or have come from, the 'International Students Party night' at the View bar! localboy78
  • Score: -1

9:55am Fri 1 Aug 14

localboy78 says...

hubby wrote:
Only on Thursdays??
You should live here in my bit of Spain and see the drunken,tattood British slags and thugs of all ages we have to put up with every day and night of the week.
I agree, however we choose to live in this part of Hove because it is heavily suburban and residential, and we don't expect to be woken up in the early hours of Friday morning every single week by noisy foreign students. They're not even drunk, they just talk very loud, shout, sing etc. Interestingly the problem only ever seems to be with the Italian and Spanish students, never anyone from Northern European countries. When they have German or Scandinavian intakes of students. they never every cause a noise problem, only the Spanish and Italian ones.
[quote][p][bold]hubby[/bold] wrote: Only on Thursdays?? You should live here in my bit of Spain and see the drunken,tattood British slags and thugs of all ages we have to put up with every day and night of the week.[/p][/quote]I agree, however we choose to live in this part of Hove because it is heavily suburban and residential, and we don't expect to be woken up in the early hours of Friday morning every single week by noisy foreign students. They're not even drunk, they just talk very loud, shout, sing etc. Interestingly the problem only ever seems to be with the Italian and Spanish students, never anyone from Northern European countries. When they have German or Scandinavian intakes of students. they never every cause a noise problem, only the Spanish and Italian ones. localboy78
  • Score: 11

10:59am Fri 1 Aug 14

Uncle Ruckus (No Relation) says...

Wide Bertha wrote:
s&k wrote:
If they're not safe then the city is letting them down. They're visitors and of course they're vulnerable- but what does this say about the state of Brighton?
it says we might finally soon be able to walk past a bus stop without having to step into the road due to the legions of students blocking the pavements....
I always say "Excuse me, please" three times when trying to get past foreign students who block pavements; if they have not moved out of the way by the third "Excuse
me", then I just push them out of the way.

Their English might not be great, but surely they understand "Excuse me" before they get to this country?
[quote][p][bold]Wide Bertha[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s&k[/bold] wrote: If they're not safe then the city is letting them down. They're visitors and of course they're vulnerable- but what does this say about the state of Brighton?[/p][/quote]it says we might finally soon be able to walk past a bus stop without having to step into the road due to the legions of students blocking the pavements....[/p][/quote]I always say "Excuse me, please" three times when trying to get past foreign students who block pavements; if they have not moved out of the way by the third "Excuse me", then I just push them out of the way. Their English might not be great, but surely they understand "Excuse me" before they get to this country? Uncle Ruckus (No Relation)
  • Score: 12

11:00am Fri 1 Aug 14

Hooitness says...

stevo!! . wrote:
There's too many foreigners in Brighton anyway. We're full.

Vote UKIP.
I gather you also think that England is still a great empire too?

We should be lucky anyone even wants to come to this third rate nation.
[quote][p][bold]stevo!! .[/bold] wrote: There's too many foreigners in Brighton anyway. We're full. Vote UKIP.[/p][/quote]I gather you also think that England is still a great empire too? We should be lucky anyone even wants to come to this third rate nation. Hooitness
  • Score: 1

12:23pm Fri 1 Aug 14

runnergirl says...

Old Ale Man wrote:
Visiting students are a asset to this town, they actualy spend money here, unlike those attending the universities who spend next to nothing and they're not contributing anything into the system by way of council tax and are allowed 2 votes at election times, thats why you get a load of loony cabbages running the council!!
What?? How are "those attending universities" not "visiting students"? Are you suggesting the 26,000 students at Sussex and Brighton Universities are all drawn from the local population? Duh. I take it you didn't do your own degree in ... logic?
[quote][p][bold]Old Ale Man[/bold] wrote: Visiting students are a asset to this town, they actualy spend money here, unlike those attending the universities who spend next to nothing and they're not contributing anything into the system by way of council tax and are allowed 2 votes at election times, thats why you get a load of loony cabbages running the council!![/p][/quote]What?? How are "those attending universities" not "visiting students"? Are you suggesting the 26,000 students at Sussex and Brighton Universities are all drawn from the local population? Duh. I take it you didn't do your own degree in ... logic? runnergirl
  • Score: 1

2:08pm Fri 1 Aug 14

TedMaul says...

ahhh whinge whinge whinge.
Brighton & hove is a party town.
either get used to it or move.

Stop moaning. ur gonna tell me u never did this when u were young.
I welcome it, i welcome more and more and more students into B&H from whatever country, bring them on
ahhh whinge whinge whinge. Brighton & hove is a party town. either get used to it or move. Stop moaning. ur gonna tell me u never did this when u were young. I welcome it, i welcome more and more and more students into B&H from whatever country, bring them on TedMaul
  • Score: -6

2:23pm Fri 1 Aug 14

TedMaul says...

oh and 1 more thing, earplugs.
oh and 1 more thing, earplugs. TedMaul
  • Score: -8

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