Eastbourne Pier fire: Small business owners were uninsured

Kath Pook and Ian Donald, of Gifts At The Pier, Glenda Melluish, of Glass Studio, and Jeff Sparks, of The Sweetshop.  Picture: Tony Wood (TW310714A28)

Kath Pook and Ian Donald, of Gifts At The Pier, Glenda Melluish, of Glass Studio, and Jeff Sparks, of The Sweetshop. Picture: Tony Wood (TW310714A28)

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BUSINESS owners feel they have been left in limbo after they watched their livelihoods go up in smoke.

The arcade section of the pier was utterly gutted leaving the shops and businesses on the far end of the pier cut off from the shore and the Victorian structure closed.

Some of those who owned the gift and sovereign shops told The Argus their businesses were uninsured because companies were not willing to insure outlets on a pier.

They also told how the fire could not have happened at a worse time because it was their busiest time of year and added how the fire could see some traders left in ruins.

On hold Sammy Morgan, of the Military Heroes Trading Company, a charitable trust, said she had only opened for business on their pier three weeks ago.

She added that her line of commemorative First World War bears, which were due to be sold for the first time this weekend to help raise £2 million for services charities, will now have to be put on hold.

The ex-soldier said: “We have no way of claiming from anybody.

“But because of the fire at Weston Super Mare’s pier, there is a pot of money everyone delves into if there is ever another tragedy on a pier.

“Insurance companies will not insure piers any longer – we were only aware of that two weeks after we moved on, and we have been there for three.

“For some, their businesses and livelihoods have gone down the pan. The glass shop has been there since 1963 and the little clothing shop has been run for 25 years.”

Business owners gathered at the Queen’s Hotel, near the pier, to discuss their situation.

Kath Pook, owner of the pier gift shop, said: “We are in limbo. We are the shops but we do not know anything. We are waiting for someone to come and talk to us.

“There was a meeting this morning with the hoteliers but the most important people are us. It is our living and nobody has spoken to us yet and we are waiting. None of us are insured, we cannot get insured for fire because of all the other piers which have gone up in flames. We have been here since last night and we are still here. We are all waiting for someone to say something to us.”

Christos Stylianou, general manager of Eastbourne Pier, was unavailable for comment.

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6:20am Fri 1 Aug 14

rogerthefish says...

Surely the pier would have an overall commercial policy as they have a duty of car towards you.

Good luck
Surely the pier would have an overall commercial policy as they have a duty of car towards you. Good luck rogerthefish
  • Score: 12

6:27am Fri 1 Aug 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up! Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: -59

6:57am Fri 1 Aug 14

Sussex jim says...

The road is quite wide at the pier entrance. Perhaps the Council could grant permission for the existing shopkeepers to set up some market stalls by the entrance for the remainder of the season?
The road is quite wide at the pier entrance. Perhaps the Council could grant permission for the existing shopkeepers to set up some market stalls by the entrance for the remainder of the season? Sussex jim
  • Score: 43

7:19am Fri 1 Aug 14

angelus1666 says...

most of the small shops on the pier were a bit down market and shabby... hopefully post rebuild they can be improved.
most of the small shops on the pier were a bit down market and shabby... hopefully post rebuild they can be improved. angelus1666
  • Score: 9

7:21am Fri 1 Aug 14

hyram77 says...

Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
From what the business owners said is wasn't a voluntary decision. Insurance just wasn't available. If it was, I guess most of them would have bought it. Your comment is therefore absolute rubbish!
[quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]From what the business owners said is wasn't a voluntary decision. Insurance just wasn't available. If it was, I guess most of them would have bought it. Your comment is therefore absolute rubbish! hyram77
  • Score: 54

8:37am Fri 1 Aug 14

Soupdraggon says...

Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
... and you would have done what ? : based on your obviously clear grasp of the article ?
[quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]... and you would have done what ? : based on your obviously clear grasp of the article ? Soupdraggon
  • Score: 25

9:10am Fri 1 Aug 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

Soupdraggon wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
... and you would have done what ? : based on your obviously clear grasp of the article ?
You would not have found me peddling trash or junk food on a...pier in the first place, so your question is entirely moot. (Look it up.)
[quote][p][bold]Soupdraggon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]... and you would have done what ? : based on your obviously clear grasp of the article ?[/p][/quote]You would not have found me peddling trash or junk food on a...pier in the first place, so your question is entirely moot. (Look it up.) Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: -33

9:18am Fri 1 Aug 14

maria m says...

I am sure you can insure the contents, of a building.
I am sure you can insure the contents, of a building. maria m
  • Score: -1

9:31am Fri 1 Aug 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Soupdraggon wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
... and you would have done what ? : based on your obviously clear grasp of the article ?
You would not have found me peddling trash or junk food on a...pier in the first place, so your question is entirely moot. (Look it up.)
Your original point is complete **** anyway, what point are you even trying to make? You constantly post drivel on this site
[quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soupdraggon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]... and you would have done what ? : based on your obviously clear grasp of the article ?[/p][/quote]You would not have found me peddling trash or junk food on a...pier in the first place, so your question is entirely moot. (Look it up.)[/p][/quote]Your original point is complete **** anyway, what point are you even trying to make? You constantly post drivel on this site Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 23

9:38am Fri 1 Aug 14

Bugzy84 says...

Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Soupdraggon wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
... and you would have done what ? : based on your obviously clear grasp of the article ?
You would not have found me peddling trash or junk food on a...pier in the first place, so your question is entirely moot. (Look it up.)
You're just a horrid uncompassionate person living in your own bubble of misery it seems.
Should any misfortune befall you and no one show you any kindness you'll know how you've made these people feel.
[quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soupdraggon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]... and you would have done what ? : based on your obviously clear grasp of the article ?[/p][/quote]You would not have found me peddling trash or junk food on a...pier in the first place, so your question is entirely moot. (Look it up.)[/p][/quote]You're just a horrid uncompassionate person living in your own bubble of misery it seems. Should any misfortune befall you and no one show you any kindness you'll know how you've made these people feel. Bugzy84
  • Score: 23

9:46am Fri 1 Aug 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Soupdraggon wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
... and you would have done what ? : based on your obviously clear grasp of the article ?
You would not have found me peddling trash or junk food on a...pier in the first place, so your question is entirely moot. (Look it up.)
You're just a horrid uncompassionate person living in your own bubble of misery it seems.
Should any misfortune befall you and no one show you any kindness you'll know how you've made these people feel.
It's a troll, please don't let it wind you up. They spend all day trawling sites trying to cause upset and arguments. Hiding behind their keyboard, probably sat in a pokey bedsit unemployed, overweight and rather ugly.
[quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soupdraggon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]... and you would have done what ? : based on your obviously clear grasp of the article ?[/p][/quote]You would not have found me peddling trash or junk food on a...pier in the first place, so your question is entirely moot. (Look it up.)[/p][/quote]You're just a horrid uncompassionate person living in your own bubble of misery it seems. Should any misfortune befall you and no one show you any kindness you'll know how you've made these people feel.[/p][/quote]It's a troll, please don't let it wind you up. They spend all day trawling sites trying to cause upset and arguments. Hiding behind their keyboard, probably sat in a pokey bedsit unemployed, overweight and rather ugly. Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 21

9:54am Fri 1 Aug 14

JHunty says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Soupdraggon wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
... and you would have done what ? : based on your obviously clear grasp of the article ?
You would not have found me peddling trash or junk food on a...pier in the first place, so your question is entirely moot. (Look it up.)
You're just a horrid uncompassionate person living in your own bubble of misery it seems.
Should any misfortune befall you and no one show you any kindness you'll know how you've made these people feel.
It's a troll, please don't let it wind you up. They spend all day trawling sites trying to cause upset and arguments. Hiding behind their keyboard, probably sat in a pokey bedsit unemployed, overweight and rather ugly.
Have you been peeking through my windows again?
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soupdraggon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]... and you would have done what ? : based on your obviously clear grasp of the article ?[/p][/quote]You would not have found me peddling trash or junk food on a...pier in the first place, so your question is entirely moot. (Look it up.)[/p][/quote]You're just a horrid uncompassionate person living in your own bubble of misery it seems. Should any misfortune befall you and no one show you any kindness you'll know how you've made these people feel.[/p][/quote]It's a troll, please don't let it wind you up. They spend all day trawling sites trying to cause upset and arguments. Hiding behind their keyboard, probably sat in a pokey bedsit unemployed, overweight and rather ugly.[/p][/quote]Have you been peeking through my windows again? JHunty
  • Score: 6

10:04am Fri 1 Aug 14

stevensavage says...

Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.
[quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view. stevensavage
  • Score: 0

10:08am Fri 1 Aug 14

theargusissoinformative says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Bugzy84 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Soupdraggon wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
... and you would have done what ? : based on your obviously clear grasp of the article ?
You would not have found me peddling trash or junk food on a...pier in the first place, so your question is entirely moot. (Look it up.)
You're just a horrid uncompassionate person living in your own bubble of misery it seems.
Should any misfortune befall you and no one show you any kindness you'll know how you've made these people feel.
It's a troll, please don't let it wind you up. They spend all day trawling sites trying to cause upset and arguments. Hiding behind their keyboard, probably sat in a pokey bedsit unemployed, overweight and rather ugly.
Much of the UK in any walk of life nowadays (even if they're not in a bedsit and unemployed).
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Soupdraggon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]... and you would have done what ? : based on your obviously clear grasp of the article ?[/p][/quote]You would not have found me peddling trash or junk food on a...pier in the first place, so your question is entirely moot. (Look it up.)[/p][/quote]You're just a horrid uncompassionate person living in your own bubble of misery it seems. Should any misfortune befall you and no one show you any kindness you'll know how you've made these people feel.[/p][/quote]It's a troll, please don't let it wind you up. They spend all day trawling sites trying to cause upset and arguments. Hiding behind their keyboard, probably sat in a pokey bedsit unemployed, overweight and rather ugly.[/p][/quote]Much of the UK in any walk of life nowadays (even if they're not in a bedsit and unemployed). theargusissoinformative
  • Score: 0

10:29am Fri 1 Aug 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

stevensavage wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.
You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means

Where are they expecting us to bail them out?
[quote][p][bold]stevensavage[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.[/p][/quote]You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means Where are they expecting us to bail them out? Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 3

10:30am Fri 1 Aug 14

charlie smirke says...

I'm not sure what these traders are expecting to happen here. They are in a very unfortunate position but proceeding with an uninsured business is always going to be a huge risk. That's why you have insurance, so that there's someone to pick up the pieces when things go wrong.
Without that in place, who do they expect to help them out?
I don't see how the owners of the pier can do anything until the damage is fully assessed.
I'm not sure what these traders are expecting to happen here. They are in a very unfortunate position but proceeding with an uninsured business is always going to be a huge risk. That's why you have insurance, so that there's someone to pick up the pieces when things go wrong. Without that in place, who do they expect to help them out? I don't see how the owners of the pier can do anything until the damage is fully assessed. charlie smirke
  • Score: 3

10:32am Fri 1 Aug 14

Btn4all says...

The pier owners must have insurance in place. If the tenants were using a correct lease their commercial assets are covered....its not really a story with any interest unless the pier owners deny liability...which they have not commented on...
The pier owners must have insurance in place. If the tenants were using a correct lease their commercial assets are covered....its not really a story with any interest unless the pier owners deny liability...which they have not commented on... Btn4all
  • Score: -2

10:52am Fri 1 Aug 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

These shops make an enormous profit from what they have sold in the past. A lot of it is cheap rubbish and it is sold for extremely expensive prices - so these businesses have made an enormous profit out of these shops.

I expect they are all crying in their tea now they can't rip people off anymore.
These shops make an enormous profit from what they have sold in the past. A lot of it is cheap rubbish and it is sold for extremely expensive prices - so these businesses have made an enormous profit out of these shops. I expect they are all crying in their tea now they can't rip people off anymore. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: -1

11:18am Fri 1 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

Btn4all wrote:
The pier owners must have insurance in place. If the tenants were using a correct lease their commercial assets are covered....its not really a story with any interest unless the pier owners deny liability...which they have not commented on...
They haven't. The risk is so massive that seaside piers are pretty much uninsurable as the article states!
No doubt this private company will claim they have no money to repair it because they know the Council / Government / Local donators will step in to pay for it.
[quote][p][bold]Btn4all[/bold] wrote: The pier owners must have insurance in place. If the tenants were using a correct lease their commercial assets are covered....its not really a story with any interest unless the pier owners deny liability...which they have not commented on...[/p][/quote]They haven't. The risk is so massive that seaside piers are pretty much uninsurable as the article states! No doubt this private company will claim they have no money to repair it because they know the Council / Government / Local donators will step in to pay for it. sussexram40
  • Score: 5

11:45am Fri 1 Aug 14

runnergirl says...

Er ... if you can't insure your business, should you even be in business?
Er ... if you can't insure your business, should you even be in business? runnergirl
  • Score: -2

12:17pm Fri 1 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

Youve got to be reckless to invest your livelihood in an insured business on a seaside pier - piers being renowned for burning down and being danaged by storms.
I find it hard to be sympathetic when I have always avoided risk and played safe and done everyhting 'belt and braces'.
It's a bit like the many people who chose to live on flood plains and then went squealing off to the press, council and government for help when their homes got flooded recently.
People have got to accept responsibility for their own actions and decisions and not expect other people to bail them out when their risky decisions backfire on them.
Youve got to be reckless to invest your livelihood in an insured business on a seaside pier - piers being renowned for burning down and being danaged by storms. I find it hard to be sympathetic when I have always avoided risk and played safe and done everyhting 'belt and braces'. It's a bit like the many people who chose to live on flood plains and then went squealing off to the press, council and government for help when their homes got flooded recently. People have got to accept responsibility for their own actions and decisions and not expect other people to bail them out when their risky decisions backfire on them. sussexram40
  • Score: 12

12:17pm Fri 1 Aug 14

sussexram40 says...

* I meant "uninsured" in the comment above.
* I meant "uninsured" in the comment above. sussexram40
  • Score: 0

12:27pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
stevensavage wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.
You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means

Where are they expecting us to bail them out?
See how many people agree with me, brightside? Dear me, you're not having a good day!

As for explaining the comment about uninsured people wanting to save money and enjoy the benefits , what I meant was that they obviously save money by not paying the necessary insurance premiums, that therefore gives them more money to spend, save or enjoy. (The 'benefit' aspect of my point.)

How I would love all the premiums back I have spent over the years in various insurance premiums.

Incidentally, I have never, ever claimed. Really.
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevensavage[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.[/p][/quote]You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means Where are they expecting us to bail them out?[/p][/quote]See how many people agree with me, brightside? Dear me, you're not having a good day! As for explaining the comment about uninsured people wanting to save money and enjoy the benefits , what I meant was that they obviously save money by not paying the necessary insurance premiums, that therefore gives them more money to spend, save or enjoy. (The 'benefit' aspect of my point.) How I would love all the premiums back I have spent over the years in various insurance premiums. Incidentally, I have never, ever claimed. Really. Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: -1

12:37pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
stevensavage wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.
You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means

Where are they expecting us to bail them out?
See how many people agree with me, brightside? Dear me, you're not having a good day!

As for explaining the comment about uninsured people wanting to save money and enjoy the benefits , what I meant was that they obviously save money by not paying the necessary insurance premiums, that therefore gives them more money to spend, save or enjoy. (The 'benefit' aspect of my point.)

How I would love all the premiums back I have spent over the years in various insurance premiums.

Incidentally, I have never, ever claimed. Really.
I like your jugs
[quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevensavage[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.[/p][/quote]You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means Where are they expecting us to bail them out?[/p][/quote]See how many people agree with me, brightside? Dear me, you're not having a good day! As for explaining the comment about uninsured people wanting to save money and enjoy the benefits , what I meant was that they obviously save money by not paying the necessary insurance premiums, that therefore gives them more money to spend, save or enjoy. (The 'benefit' aspect of my point.) How I would love all the premiums back I have spent over the years in various insurance premiums. Incidentally, I have never, ever claimed. Really.[/p][/quote]I like your jugs Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 0

1:37pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
stevensavage wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.
You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means

Where are they expecting us to bail them out?
See how many people agree with me, brightside? Dear me, you're not having a good day!

As for explaining the comment about uninsured people wanting to save money and enjoy the benefits , what I meant was that they obviously save money by not paying the necessary insurance premiums, that therefore gives them more money to spend, save or enjoy. (The 'benefit' aspect of my point.)

How I would love all the premiums back I have spent over the years in various insurance premiums.

Incidentally, I have never, ever claimed. Really.
I like your jugs
Most people, do, brightside, most people do.

(May I point out that I run an antiques business.)
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevensavage[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.[/p][/quote]You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means Where are they expecting us to bail them out?[/p][/quote]See how many people agree with me, brightside? Dear me, you're not having a good day! As for explaining the comment about uninsured people wanting to save money and enjoy the benefits , what I meant was that they obviously save money by not paying the necessary insurance premiums, that therefore gives them more money to spend, save or enjoy. (The 'benefit' aspect of my point.) How I would love all the premiums back I have spent over the years in various insurance premiums. Incidentally, I have never, ever claimed. Really.[/p][/quote]I like your jugs[/p][/quote]Most people, do, brightside, most people do. (May I point out that I run an antiques business.) Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: -4

1:51pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Mrbrightside1 says...

Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
stevensavage wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.
You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means

Where are they expecting us to bail them out?
See how many people agree with me, brightside? Dear me, you're not having a good day!

As for explaining the comment about uninsured people wanting to save money and enjoy the benefits , what I meant was that they obviously save money by not paying the necessary insurance premiums, that therefore gives them more money to spend, save or enjoy. (The 'benefit' aspect of my point.)

How I would love all the premiums back I have spent over the years in various insurance premiums.

Incidentally, I have never, ever claimed. Really.
I like your jugs
Most people, do, brightside, most people do.

(May I point out that I run an antiques business.)
What is the relevance of antiques? Or are you just saying your old :)
[quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevensavage[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.[/p][/quote]You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means Where are they expecting us to bail them out?[/p][/quote]See how many people agree with me, brightside? Dear me, you're not having a good day! As for explaining the comment about uninsured people wanting to save money and enjoy the benefits , what I meant was that they obviously save money by not paying the necessary insurance premiums, that therefore gives them more money to spend, save or enjoy. (The 'benefit' aspect of my point.) How I would love all the premiums back I have spent over the years in various insurance premiums. Incidentally, I have never, ever claimed. Really.[/p][/quote]I like your jugs[/p][/quote]Most people, do, brightside, most people do. (May I point out that I run an antiques business.)[/p][/quote]What is the relevance of antiques? Or are you just saying your old :) Mrbrightside1
  • Score: 1

2:10pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Youlikemyjugs says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
stevensavage wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.
You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means

Where are they expecting us to bail them out?
See how many people agree with me, brightside? Dear me, you're not having a good day!

As for explaining the comment about uninsured people wanting to save money and enjoy the benefits , what I meant was that they obviously save money by not paying the necessary insurance premiums, that therefore gives them more money to spend, save or enjoy. (The 'benefit' aspect of my point.)

How I would love all the premiums back I have spent over the years in various insurance premiums.

Incidentally, I have never, ever claimed. Really.
I like your jugs
Most people, do, brightside, most people do.

(May I point out that I run an antiques business.)
What is the relevance of antiques? Or are you just saying your old :)
Only that you seem to interpret 'jugs' in a 'carry-on' sort of way and I wanted to clarify...

Incidentally, 'you're old' not 'your old'. *sigh*

Adieu.
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevensavage[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.[/p][/quote]You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means Where are they expecting us to bail them out?[/p][/quote]See how many people agree with me, brightside? Dear me, you're not having a good day! As for explaining the comment about uninsured people wanting to save money and enjoy the benefits , what I meant was that they obviously save money by not paying the necessary insurance premiums, that therefore gives them more money to spend, save or enjoy. (The 'benefit' aspect of my point.) How I would love all the premiums back I have spent over the years in various insurance premiums. Incidentally, I have never, ever claimed. Really.[/p][/quote]I like your jugs[/p][/quote]Most people, do, brightside, most people do. (May I point out that I run an antiques business.)[/p][/quote]What is the relevance of antiques? Or are you just saying your old :)[/p][/quote]Only that you seem to interpret 'jugs' in a 'carry-on' sort of way and I wanted to clarify... Incidentally, 'you're old' not 'your old'. *sigh* Adieu. Youlikemyjugs
  • Score: -4

2:47pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Tammy Flugh says...

"BUSINESS owners feel they have been left in limbo after they watched their livelihoods go up in smoke."
It's only been 48 hours! What do they expect?
"BUSINESS owners feel they have been left in limbo after they watched their livelihoods go up in smoke." It's only been 48 hours! What do they expect? Tammy Flugh
  • Score: 1

2:52pm Fri 1 Aug 14

firemanste says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
stevensavage wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.
You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means

Where are they expecting us to bail them out?
i also think we are being asked non directly to bail these unfortunate people out.its like a subtle hint and although i think its not a very nice situation for these people dont think its up to up to pay.i know personaly that lifes tuff in business.and when it fails you have to dust off and carry on.at least they have their health
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevensavage[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.[/p][/quote]You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means Where are they expecting us to bail them out?[/p][/quote]i also think we are being asked non directly to bail these unfortunate people out.its like a subtle hint and although i think its not a very nice situation for these people dont think its up to up to pay.i know personaly that lifes tuff in business.and when it fails you have to dust off and carry on.at least they have their health firemanste
  • Score: 5

3:45pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Fairfax Aches says...

well that'll learn 'em!
well that'll learn 'em! Fairfax Aches
  • Score: 0

7:00pm Fri 1 Aug 14

firemanste says...

Mrbrightside1 wrote:
stevensavage wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.
You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means

Where are they expecting us to bail them out?
david cameron on the news said the pier was insured and that small businesses will be getting a share of the money hes giving them
[quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevensavage[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.[/p][/quote]You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means Where are they expecting us to bail them out?[/p][/quote]david cameron on the news said the pier was insured and that small businesses will be getting a share of the money hes giving them firemanste
  • Score: 2

12:12am Sat 2 Aug 14

pumpkineater23 says...

Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Mrbrightside1 wrote:
stevensavage wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.
You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means

Where are they expecting us to bail them out?
See how many people agree with me, brightside? Dear me, you're not having a good day!

As for explaining the comment about uninsured people wanting to save money and enjoy the benefits , what I meant was that they obviously save money by not paying the necessary insurance premiums, that therefore gives them more money to spend, save or enjoy. (The 'benefit' aspect of my point.)

How I would love all the premiums back I have spent over the years in various insurance premiums.

Incidentally, I have never, ever claimed. Really.
I like your jugs
Most people, do, brightside, most people do.

(May I point out that I run an antiques business.)
"May I point out that I run an antiques business."

Unlikely. Your lies are so easily exposed as you don't take the basic precautions. For example you have multiple accounts - you share the same IP address as the comments that agree with you - schoolboy error. And I liked the short but compassionate post you made on the teenager train accident thread.. so extremely clever and manipulative of you - hmm for a second there we all thought you might be alright after all, indeed it even caused us to question ourselves and our hasty dismissing of your character as the sad lonely troll. Yes, you obviously have a keen mind 'Youlikemyjugs' and I wish we could meet. You seem a truly remarkable individual.
[quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mrbrightside1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevensavage[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.[/p][/quote]You agree that 'they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision'? Maybe you can explain what they even means Where are they expecting us to bail them out?[/p][/quote]See how many people agree with me, brightside? Dear me, you're not having a good day! As for explaining the comment about uninsured people wanting to save money and enjoy the benefits , what I meant was that they obviously save money by not paying the necessary insurance premiums, that therefore gives them more money to spend, save or enjoy. (The 'benefit' aspect of my point.) How I would love all the premiums back I have spent over the years in various insurance premiums. Incidentally, I have never, ever claimed. Really.[/p][/quote]I like your jugs[/p][/quote]Most people, do, brightside, most people do. (May I point out that I run an antiques business.)[/p][/quote]"May I point out that I run an antiques business." Unlikely. Your lies are so easily exposed as you don't take the basic precautions. For example you have multiple accounts - you share the same IP address as the comments that agree with you - schoolboy error. And I liked the short but compassionate post you made on the teenager train accident thread.. so extremely clever and manipulative of you - hmm for a second there we all thought you might be alright after all, indeed it even caused us to question ourselves and our hasty dismissing of your character as the sad lonely troll. Yes, you obviously have a keen mind 'Youlikemyjugs' and I wish we could meet. You seem a truly remarkable individual. pumpkineater23
  • Score: 1

1:31pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Logicsays says...

No insurance - tough luck pal.
No insurance - tough luck pal. Logicsays
  • Score: 1

8:42am Sun 3 Aug 14

Wide Bertha says...

stevensavage wrote:
Youlikemyjugs wrote:
Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up!
i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.
the dole office ?
[quote][p][bold]stevensavage[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Youlikemyjugs[/bold] wrote: Serves them right- if they wanted to save money and enjoy the benefits of this decision, then they can hardly complain when they are left high and dry (wet?) when things go ti*s up![/p][/quote]i agree with you and now see them expecting us tax payers to bail them out.yes its terrible with the fire and the impact on tourism.however why should we pay for these peoples business.you win some and you lose some.its life and a lot of peoples business fails.im not being horrible but 5 people sat in this office agree with my view.[/p][/quote]the dole office ? Wide Bertha
  • Score: 0

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