Vogue Gyratory road and cycle works start again

Vogue Gyratory road and cycle works start again

Vogue Gyratory road and cycle works start again

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THE next phase of road works on one of the city’s busiest carriageways is expected to start today.

The northbound carriageway of Brighton’s Upper Lewes Road will be temporarily closed at the Lewes Road junction as part of Brighton and Hove City Council’s plans to improve safety of the Vogue Gyratory.

The works initially began on July 14, where a single lane on the northbound carriageway was closed to facilitate footway works in the centre of the gyratory.

Phase two of the project is expected to start today, which will see the introduction of temporary pedestrian crossings and, at times, the reduction of the northbound carriageway to a single lane.

The initial proposals for the Vogue Gyratory were developed as part of the authority’s Lewes Road Improvement Scheme.

The project will see priority green signals created for cyclists at traffic lights, providing a three-second head start to reduce traffic conflict.

The creation of a continuous two-meter wide northbound cycle lane through the gyratory system is designed to increase drivers’ awareness of cyclists.

Cyclist Matthew Easterbrook, a lecturer of psychology at the University of Sussex, welcomed the improvements.

He said: “Cycling out of town along the Gyratory is just a disaster waiting to happen at the moment - cars, buses and lorries force you to squeeze up dangerously close to the curb as you set off from the traffic lights before you have to cycle across three lanes of traffic.

“It's not much better for the motorists either.

“They have to change lanes within about 50 meters or risk going completely the wrong way.

“It's understandable that drivers get annoyed with cyclists blocking their way, and understandable why a lot of potential cyclists forego their ride to work because of the dangers around the Gyratory. “I am looking forward to a safer and less dangerous journey to work, and expect that it'll really help improve cycle numbers in Brighton.”

The scheme also aims to make improvements for traffic flow by replacing traffic signal equipment using up-to-date technology and replacing the road surface and clarity of road markings.

When asked about the work’s effect on local businesses, a Brighton and Hove City Council spokeswoman said: “The location of the Upper Lewes Road closure is not in front of businesses or residences which means that access to both can be maintained.

“The council has been working with the local businesses to ensure that their deliveries can take place during the works.”

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6:23am Mon 18 Aug 14

rogerthefish says...

I don't suppose it could be done at night as there is not a lot of residential property of than Students that have gone home for the summer.

So when is that useless council/highways department going to start the repairs on the seafront that collapsed in May?

They are an utter shower of !
I don't suppose it could be done at night as there is not a lot of residential property of than Students that have gone home for the summer. So when is that useless council/highways department going to start the repairs on the seafront that collapsed in May? They are an utter shower of ! rogerthefish
  • Score: 51

7:07am Mon 18 Aug 14

Sussex jim says...

More traffic misery for the near future.
And how does a three second start for cyclists reduce "conflict"? Three or four seconds later the accelerating motorist has the frustration of trying to pass the privileged cyclists. Another recipe for road rage- which idiot dreampt that one up?
More traffic misery for the near future. And how does a three second start for cyclists reduce "conflict"? Three or four seconds later the accelerating motorist has the frustration of trying to pass the privileged cyclists. Another recipe for road rage- which idiot dreampt that one up? Sussex jim
  • Score: 50

7:32am Mon 18 Aug 14

Ash Brighton says...

Sussex jim wrote:
More traffic misery for the near future.
And how does a three second start for cyclists reduce "conflict"? Three or four seconds later the accelerating motorist has the frustration of trying to pass the privileged cyclists. Another recipe for road rage- which idiot dreampt that one up?
I agree the three second head start is probably unnecessary here.

It's normally intended to prevent cyclists from being left hooked but there's little opportunity for that to happen here at the gyratory.

At the moment merging from upper Lewes road is fairly dangerous (by bike or car) and I have been cut up numerous times. It is an accident waiting to happen so lets hope they amend the light sequencing there...
[quote][p][bold]Sussex jim[/bold] wrote: More traffic misery for the near future. And how does a three second start for cyclists reduce "conflict"? Three or four seconds later the accelerating motorist has the frustration of trying to pass the privileged cyclists. Another recipe for road rage- which idiot dreampt that one up?[/p][/quote]I agree the three second head start is probably unnecessary here. It's normally intended to prevent cyclists from being left hooked but there's little opportunity for that to happen here at the gyratory. At the moment merging from upper Lewes road is fairly dangerous (by bike or car) and I have been cut up numerous times. It is an accident waiting to happen so lets hope they amend the light sequencing there... Ash Brighton
  • Score: 39

7:54am Mon 18 Aug 14

HJarrs says...

Unfortunate that there has to be disruption, but this work should have been done 20 years ago.
Unfortunate that there has to be disruption, but this work should have been done 20 years ago. HJarrs
  • Score: -34

7:57am Mon 18 Aug 14

lindaf says...

Most of the cyclists IGNORE traffic lights so don't see the point of a three second head start..
Most of the cyclists IGNORE traffic lights so don't see the point of a three second head start.. lindaf
  • Score: 3

8:04am Mon 18 Aug 14

Nosfaratu says...

Neither of my cars are 2 metres wide, why do cyclists need that much room. I agree with Hjarrs when he says the work should have been done 20 years ago but improving the roads in total should have been done. You cannot expect a City to have the impoverished road system Brighton has and keep up with modern life.
Perhaps the council should ban all vehicles over a certain weight and size as in Tokyo. As an aside, how many cyclists have been injured or killed at the Gyratory in the last 10 years ?
Neither of my cars are 2 metres wide, why do cyclists need that much room. I agree with Hjarrs when he says the work should have been done 20 years ago but improving the roads in total should have been done. You cannot expect a City to have the impoverished road system Brighton has and keep up with modern life. Perhaps the council should ban all vehicles over a certain weight and size as in Tokyo. As an aside, how many cyclists have been injured or killed at the Gyratory in the last 10 years ? Nosfaratu
  • Score: 3

8:11am Mon 18 Aug 14

Nosfaratu says...

Sussex jim wrote:
More traffic misery for the near future.
And how does a three second start for cyclists reduce "conflict"? Three or four seconds later the accelerating motorist has the frustration of trying to pass the privileged cyclists. Another recipe for road rage- which idiot dreampt that one up?
The same idiots who caused the massive tailbacks on the A259 and A27 from Brighton to Eastbourne on Saturday. Just about everybody wanted to visit Airbourne and the road system is just so antiquated it cannot cope.
Lets build cycle paths instead !
[quote][p][bold]Sussex jim[/bold] wrote: More traffic misery for the near future. And how does a three second start for cyclists reduce "conflict"? Three or four seconds later the accelerating motorist has the frustration of trying to pass the privileged cyclists. Another recipe for road rage- which idiot dreampt that one up?[/p][/quote]The same idiots who caused the massive tailbacks on the A259 and A27 from Brighton to Eastbourne on Saturday. Just about everybody wanted to visit Airbourne and the road system is just so antiquated it cannot cope. Lets build cycle paths instead ! Nosfaratu
  • Score: -21

8:13am Mon 18 Aug 14

Nosfaratu says...

rogerthefish wrote:
I don't suppose it could be done at night as there is not a lot of residential property of than Students that have gone home for the summer.

So when is that useless council/highways department going to start the repairs on the seafront that collapsed in May?

They are an utter shower of !
Exactly, The Seafront is the A259, an important Trunk route and it should receive priority.
[quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: I don't suppose it could be done at night as there is not a lot of residential property of than Students that have gone home for the summer. So when is that useless council/highways department going to start the repairs on the seafront that collapsed in May? They are an utter shower of ![/p][/quote]Exactly, The Seafront is the A259, an important Trunk route and it should receive priority. Nosfaratu
  • Score: 39

8:31am Mon 18 Aug 14

Joshiman says...

Here we go again.This Council should have had experienced professionals to turn to when elected as they are clueless.A259/Edward St/London Rd/Lewes Rd/Blathington Rd/Sackville Rd/Old Shoreham Rd/New England Rd/Arches/West Street /Queens Rd and worst of all Regency Sq 3 sets of Traffic lights.All are out of sequence and have been programmed by a car hating, pollution loving amateur.Cyclists were never a problem until the Green decided to make it one.Incidently £6 for 2 hours parking is robbery .
Here we go again.This Council should have had experienced professionals to turn to when elected as they are clueless.A259/Edward St/London Rd/Lewes Rd/Blathington Rd/Sackville Rd/Old Shoreham Rd/New England Rd/Arches/West Street /Queens Rd and worst of all Regency Sq 3 sets of Traffic lights.All are out of sequence and have been programmed by a car hating, pollution loving amateur.Cyclists were never a problem until the Green decided to make it one.Incidently £6 for 2 hours parking is robbery . Joshiman
  • Score: 48

8:48am Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

"cars, buses and lorries force you to squeeze up dangerously close to the curb .."

*sigh*

It's 'kerb'......this isn't America.
"cars, buses and lorries force you to squeeze up dangerously close to the curb .." *sigh* It's 'kerb'......this isn't America. notslimjim
  • Score: 25

8:50am Mon 18 Aug 14

Joshiman says...

rogerthefish wrote:
I don't suppose it could be done at night as there is not a lot of residential property of than Students that have gone home for the summer.

So when is that useless council/highways department going to start the repairs on the seafront that collapsed in May?

They are an utter shower of !
Phantom workmen .No one has seen them nor heard anything.Where are they?Is anyone from the Council overseeing alleged work being done.All work should be done overnight as they do abroad.Unfortunately if you cant see the builders during the day its likely they will have long sleep breaks at night .Possibly all night.Everyone in the city including visitors are fed up with gridlock/congestion and rip off parking charges.What happened?.Used to be ok.
[quote][p][bold]rogerthefish[/bold] wrote: I don't suppose it could be done at night as there is not a lot of residential property of than Students that have gone home for the summer. So when is that useless council/highways department going to start the repairs on the seafront that collapsed in May? They are an utter shower of ![/p][/quote]Phantom workmen .No one has seen them nor heard anything.Where are they?Is anyone from the Council overseeing alleged work being done.All work should be done overnight as they do abroad.Unfortunately if you cant see the builders during the day its likely they will have long sleep breaks at night .Possibly all night.Everyone in the city including visitors are fed up with gridlock/congestion and rip off parking charges.What happened?.Used to be ok. Joshiman
  • Score: 25

9:15am Mon 18 Aug 14

Nosfaratu says...

Joshiman wrote:
Here we go again.This Council should have had experienced professionals to turn to when elected as they are clueless.A259/Edward St/London Rd/Lewes Rd/Blathington Rd/Sackville Rd/Old Shoreham Rd/New England Rd/Arches/West Street /Queens Rd and worst of all Regency Sq 3 sets of Traffic lights.All are out of sequence and have been programmed by a car hating, pollution loving amateur.Cyclists were never a problem until the Green decided to make it one.Incidently £6 for 2 hours parking is robbery .
NCP is owned by Macquarie, a World wide Investment and Banking Group.
I suspect that B&H Council is taking a huge cut of the profits from this.
Now we know why B&H don't invest in Park & Ride in Brighton !
[quote][p][bold]Joshiman[/bold] wrote: Here we go again.This Council should have had experienced professionals to turn to when elected as they are clueless.A259/Edward St/London Rd/Lewes Rd/Blathington Rd/Sackville Rd/Old Shoreham Rd/New England Rd/Arches/West Street /Queens Rd and worst of all Regency Sq 3 sets of Traffic lights.All are out of sequence and have been programmed by a car hating, pollution loving amateur.Cyclists were never a problem until the Green decided to make it one.Incidently £6 for 2 hours parking is robbery .[/p][/quote]NCP is owned by Macquarie, a World wide Investment and Banking Group. I suspect that B&H Council is taking a huge cut of the profits from this. Now we know why B&H don't invest in Park & Ride in Brighton ! Nosfaratu
  • Score: 29

9:21am Mon 18 Aug 14

fixithove says...

Yet another dumb scheme by the Greens. This will only cause more traffic jams and increased pollution!

A fair number of cyclists ignore red lights so the 3 seconds will only be beneficial to the cyclists that obey the rules of the road.

Before anyone starts having a go about cyclists ignoring traffic lights I have been told by some that I have seen jump the red light the cyclists don’t have to stop!!!!!!!!!!
Yet another dumb scheme by the Greens. This will only cause more traffic jams and increased pollution! A fair number of cyclists ignore red lights so the 3 seconds will only be beneficial to the cyclists that obey the rules of the road. Before anyone starts having a go about cyclists ignoring traffic lights I have been told by some that I have seen jump the red light the cyclists don’t have to stop!!!!!!!!!! fixithove
  • Score: 25

9:25am Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

I see that the Argus is upset that some of us have pointed out that the two 'hero PCs' aren't really heroes at all.
I see that the Argus is upset that some of us have pointed out that the two 'hero PCs' aren't really heroes at all. notslimjim
  • Score: -14

9:27am Mon 18 Aug 14

rolivan says...

HJarrs wrote:
Unfortunate that there has to be disruption, but this work should have been done 20 years ago.
What they should have done more than 20 years ago is left the Viaduct in and made the tunnel accessible to cycles and pedestrians to Kemptown and the Freshfield area of Brighton no but all the Planners did was make way for a Sainsbury and some light Iindustrial units which could have been built on or next to the Preston Barracks site .They Call themselves Planners but I Think that is an insult to the meaning of the word.
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Unfortunate that there has to be disruption, but this work should have been done 20 years ago.[/p][/quote]What they should have done more than 20 years ago is left the Viaduct in and made the tunnel accessible to cycles and pedestrians to Kemptown and the Freshfield area of Brighton no but all the Planners did was make way for a Sainsbury and some light Iindustrial units which could have been built on or next to the Preston Barracks site .They Call themselves Planners but I Think that is an insult to the meaning of the word. rolivan
  • Score: 24

9:56am Mon 18 Aug 14

aat99 says...

love it more green moaning/bashing ... let's conveniently forget that the previous labour and tory councils were a shambles as well ... .
love it more green moaning/bashing ... let's conveniently forget that the previous labour and tory councils were a shambles as well ... . aat99
  • Score: -31

10:13am Mon 18 Aug 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?
I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed? thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 26

10:29am Mon 18 Aug 14

salty_pete says...

This junction will always present problems until the land in the middle is bought by compulsory purchase and the road straightened. All other changes/improvements
/re-configurations etc will not improve things until the basic, fundamental issue of having to gyrate around this bl@@dy island in the middle.
This junction will always present problems until the land in the middle is bought by compulsory purchase and the road straightened. All other changes/improvements /re-configurations etc will not improve things until the basic, fundamental issue of having to gyrate around this bl@@dy island in the middle. salty_pete
  • Score: 24

10:46am Mon 18 Aug 14

s_james says...

Joshiman wrote:
Here we go again.This Council should have had experienced professionals to turn to when elected as they are clueless.A259/Edward St/London Rd/Lewes Rd/Blathington Rd/Sackville Rd/Old Shoreham Rd/New England Rd/Arches/West Street /Queens Rd and worst of all Regency Sq 3 sets of Traffic lights.All are out of sequence and have been programmed by a car hating, pollution loving amateur.Cyclists were never a problem until the Green decided to make it one.Incidently £6 for 2 hours parking is robbery .
"Car hating, pollution loving" - isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?
[quote][p][bold]Joshiman[/bold] wrote: Here we go again.This Council should have had experienced professionals to turn to when elected as they are clueless.A259/Edward St/London Rd/Lewes Rd/Blathington Rd/Sackville Rd/Old Shoreham Rd/New England Rd/Arches/West Street /Queens Rd and worst of all Regency Sq 3 sets of Traffic lights.All are out of sequence and have been programmed by a car hating, pollution loving amateur.Cyclists were never a problem until the Green decided to make it one.Incidently £6 for 2 hours parking is robbery .[/p][/quote]"Car hating, pollution loving" - isn't that a bit of an oxymoron? s_james
  • Score: -12

10:47am Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

salty_pete wrote:
This junction will always present problems until the land in the middle is bought by compulsory purchase and the road straightened. All other changes/improvements

/re-configurations etc will not improve things until the basic, fundamental issue of having to gyrate around this bl@@dy island in the middle.
Funny, but loads of towns and cities have such a system and seem to manage without any problem.

I use this about once a month on cycle and motorbike, and have yet to experience a 'moment'.

I can see why northbound cyclists experience problems from left-turning vehicles, but it's no different to going round a roundabout.
[quote][p][bold]salty_pete[/bold] wrote: This junction will always present problems until the land in the middle is bought by compulsory purchase and the road straightened. All other changes/improvements /re-configurations etc will not improve things until the basic, fundamental issue of having to gyrate around this bl@@dy island in the middle.[/p][/quote]Funny, but loads of towns and cities have such a system and seem to manage without any problem. I use this about once a month on cycle and motorbike, and have yet to experience a 'moment'. I can see why northbound cyclists experience problems from left-turning vehicles, but it's no different to going round a roundabout. notslimjim
  • Score: 10

12:14pm Mon 18 Aug 14

MartinDE says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?
The Council website has a page dedicated to these works:

www.brighton-hove.go
v.uk/vogue

You can email them and ask to be added to a mailing list; I got an email last week explaining the next set of closures.

I'd say that's pretty good!
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?[/p][/quote]The Council website has a page dedicated to these works: www.brighton-hove.go v.uk/vogue You can email them and ask to be added to a mailing list; I got an email last week explaining the next set of closures. I'd say that's pretty good! MartinDE
  • Score: 4

12:21pm Mon 18 Aug 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

MartinDE wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?
The Council website has a page dedicated to these works:

www.brighton-hove.go

v.uk/vogue

You can email them and ask to be added to a mailing list; I got an email last week explaining the next set of closures.

I'd say that's pretty good!
Thank you - I'm not sure why that didn't come up in my internet search. I just got the consultation pages. Much appreciated!
[quote][p][bold]MartinDE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?[/p][/quote]The Council website has a page dedicated to these works: www.brighton-hove.go v.uk/vogue You can email them and ask to be added to a mailing list; I got an email last week explaining the next set of closures. I'd say that's pretty good![/p][/quote]Thank you - I'm not sure why that didn't come up in my internet search. I just got the consultation pages. Much appreciated! thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 2

12:24pm Mon 18 Aug 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
MartinDE wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?
The Council website has a page dedicated to these works:

www.brighton-hove.go


v.uk/vogue

You can email them and ask to be added to a mailing list; I got an email last week explaining the next set of closures.

I'd say that's pretty good!
Thank you - I'm not sure why that didn't come up in my internet search. I just got the consultation pages. Much appreciated!
I've just realised it didn't come up because it's called 'Transport improvements' rather than road works! Hmm, I think most people will not search for that term!
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MartinDE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?[/p][/quote]The Council website has a page dedicated to these works: www.brighton-hove.go v.uk/vogue You can email them and ask to be added to a mailing list; I got an email last week explaining the next set of closures. I'd say that's pretty good![/p][/quote]Thank you - I'm not sure why that didn't come up in my internet search. I just got the consultation pages. Much appreciated![/p][/quote]I've just realised it didn't come up because it's called 'Transport improvements' rather than road works! Hmm, I think most people will not search for that term! thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 5

12:47pm Mon 18 Aug 14

PaulOckenden says...

Phase 1 has been a great success. The pavement has been reconfigured to slope towards the light-well of my basement office, such that any rain water will now end up here rather than in the drains.

What a first class job!
Phase 1 has been a great success. The pavement has been reconfigured to slope towards the light-well of my basement office, such that any rain water will now end up here rather than in the drains. What a first class job! PaulOckenden
  • Score: 21

12:55pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Fairfax Aches says...

usual right wing propoganda from argos. About time all these whining gaz guzzling lard faced triple chin degenerate motorists got off their bloated pimpled backsides and did some cycling for a change. its good for fitness and the eco system.
usual right wing propoganda from argos. About time all these whining gaz guzzling lard faced triple chin degenerate motorists got off their bloated pimpled backsides and did some cycling for a change. its good for fitness and the eco system. Fairfax Aches
  • Score: -14

1:07pm Mon 18 Aug 14

lindaf says...

lindaf wrote:
Most of the cyclists IGNORE traffic lights so don't see the point of a three second head start..
I see a lot of cyclists have given me the thumbs down hahaha!!! Truth hurts eh???
[quote][p][bold]lindaf[/bold] wrote: Most of the cyclists IGNORE traffic lights so don't see the point of a three second head start..[/p][/quote]I see a lot of cyclists have given me the thumbs down hahaha!!! Truth hurts eh??? lindaf
  • Score: 14

2:02pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
MartinDE wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?
The Council website has a page dedicated to these works:

www.brighton-hove.go



v.uk/vogue

You can email them and ask to be added to a mailing list; I got an email last week explaining the next set of closures.

I'd say that's pretty good!
Thank you - I'm not sure why that didn't come up in my internet search. I just got the consultation pages. Much appreciated!
I've just realised it didn't come up because it's called 'Transport improvements' rather than road works! Hmm, I think most people will not search for that term!
Those with intelligence will.

When was the last time a road scheme was altered with the intention of making it worse for those who use it?
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MartinDE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?[/p][/quote]The Council website has a page dedicated to these works: www.brighton-hove.go v.uk/vogue You can email them and ask to be added to a mailing list; I got an email last week explaining the next set of closures. I'd say that's pretty good![/p][/quote]Thank you - I'm not sure why that didn't come up in my internet search. I just got the consultation pages. Much appreciated![/p][/quote]I've just realised it didn't come up because it's called 'Transport improvements' rather than road works! Hmm, I think most people will not search for that term![/p][/quote]Those with intelligence will. When was the last time a road scheme was altered with the intention of making it worse for those who use it? notslimjim
  • Score: 0

2:14pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

lindaf wrote:
lindaf wrote:
Most of the cyclists IGNORE traffic lights so don't see the point of a three second head start..
I see a lot of cyclists have given me the thumbs down hahaha!!! Truth hurts eh???
You were incorrect to use the word 'most' because it implies that more than 50% of cyclists do that.

Unless you've counted them, you cannot use 'most'.

'Many' might be more accurate, because that is due to your own observations.
[quote][p][bold]lindaf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lindaf[/bold] wrote: Most of the cyclists IGNORE traffic lights so don't see the point of a three second head start..[/p][/quote]I see a lot of cyclists have given me the thumbs down hahaha!!! Truth hurts eh???[/p][/quote]You were incorrect to use the word 'most' because it implies that more than 50% of cyclists do that. Unless you've counted them, you cannot use 'most'. 'Many' might be more accurate, because that is due to your own observations. notslimjim
  • Score: -1

2:50pm Mon 18 Aug 14

MartinDE says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
MartinDE wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?
The Council website has a page dedicated to these works:

www.brighton-hove.go



v.uk/vogue

You can email them and ask to be added to a mailing list; I got an email last week explaining the next set of closures.

I'd say that's pretty good!
Thank you - I'm not sure why that didn't come up in my internet search. I just got the consultation pages. Much appreciated!
I've just realised it didn't come up because it's called 'Transport improvements' rather than road works! Hmm, I think most people will not search for that term!
It's the first result in Google if you search for 'Brighton Vogue', and the first item in the list of 'Local projects' in the Council site's transport section.
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MartinDE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?[/p][/quote]The Council website has a page dedicated to these works: www.brighton-hove.go v.uk/vogue You can email them and ask to be added to a mailing list; I got an email last week explaining the next set of closures. I'd say that's pretty good![/p][/quote]Thank you - I'm not sure why that didn't come up in my internet search. I just got the consultation pages. Much appreciated![/p][/quote]I've just realised it didn't come up because it's called 'Transport improvements' rather than road works! Hmm, I think most people will not search for that term![/p][/quote]It's the first result in Google if you search for 'Brighton Vogue', and the first item in the list of 'Local projects' in the Council site's transport section. MartinDE
  • Score: 2

2:56pm Mon 18 Aug 14

MasonStorm says...

2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?
2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres? MasonStorm
  • Score: 8

3:15pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Nosfaratu says...

MasonStorm wrote:
2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?
As I said before that's wider than my & most cars even Transit vans.
[quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: 2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?[/p][/quote]As I said before that's wider than my & most cars even Transit vans. Nosfaratu
  • Score: 9

3:16pm Mon 18 Aug 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

MartinDE wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
MartinDE wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?
The Council website has a page dedicated to these works:

www.brighton-hove.go




v.uk/vogue

You can email them and ask to be added to a mailing list; I got an email last week explaining the next set of closures.

I'd say that's pretty good!
Thank you - I'm not sure why that didn't come up in my internet search. I just got the consultation pages. Much appreciated!
I've just realised it didn't come up because it's called 'Transport improvements' rather than road works! Hmm, I think most people will not search for that term!
It's the first result in Google if you search for 'Brighton Vogue', and the first item in the list of 'Local projects' in the Council site's transport section.
I searched for Lewes Road roadworks, not Vogue. Brighton Vogue sounds like a Madonna tribute night!
[quote][p][bold]MartinDE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MartinDE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?[/p][/quote]The Council website has a page dedicated to these works: www.brighton-hove.go v.uk/vogue You can email them and ask to be added to a mailing list; I got an email last week explaining the next set of closures. I'd say that's pretty good![/p][/quote]Thank you - I'm not sure why that didn't come up in my internet search. I just got the consultation pages. Much appreciated![/p][/quote]I've just realised it didn't come up because it's called 'Transport improvements' rather than road works! Hmm, I think most people will not search for that term![/p][/quote]It's the first result in Google if you search for 'Brighton Vogue', and the first item in the list of 'Local projects' in the Council site's transport section.[/p][/quote]I searched for Lewes Road roadworks, not Vogue. Brighton Vogue sounds like a Madonna tribute night! thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 5

3:16pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

MasonStorm wrote:
2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?
The report clearly states that the width of the cycle lane is an attempt to increase awareness of it among car drivers.
[quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: 2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?[/p][/quote]The report clearly states that the width of the cycle lane is an attempt to increase awareness of it among car drivers. notslimjim
  • Score: -2

3:18pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Nosfaratu says...

Fairfax Aches wrote:
usual right wing propoganda from argos. About time all these whining gaz guzzling lard faced triple chin degenerate motorists got off their bloated pimpled backsides and did some cycling for a change. its good for fitness and the eco system.
Death and injury too ! So those of us unable to get the Park & Ride Busses that don't exist and live 10 miles out of town are supposed to ride into town on a Bike! Are you mad !
[quote][p][bold]Fairfax Aches[/bold] wrote: usual right wing propoganda from argos. About time all these whining gaz guzzling lard faced triple chin degenerate motorists got off their bloated pimpled backsides and did some cycling for a change. its good for fitness and the eco system.[/p][/quote]Death and injury too ! So those of us unable to get the Park & Ride Busses that don't exist and live 10 miles out of town are supposed to ride into town on a Bike! Are you mad ! Nosfaratu
  • Score: 9

3:21pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Morpheus says...

MasonStorm wrote:
2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?
It is to encourage them not to ride on the pavement.
[quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: 2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?[/p][/quote]It is to encourage them not to ride on the pavement. Morpheus
  • Score: 7

3:21pm Mon 18 Aug 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

I see that tedious troll, Stevo!!! has now renamed himself 'notslimjim'.

Remember not to feed him.

HTH
I see that tedious troll, Stevo!!! has now renamed himself 'notslimjim'. Remember not to feed him. HTH thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: -3

3:39pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
I see that tedious troll, Stevo!!! has now renamed himself 'notslimjim'.

Remember not to feed him.

HTH
Admitting that my posts are too clever for you?

I'm delighted.
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: I see that tedious troll, Stevo!!! has now renamed himself 'notslimjim'. Remember not to feed him. HTH[/p][/quote]Admitting that my posts are too clever for you? I'm delighted. notslimjim
  • Score: 2

4:48pm Mon 18 Aug 14

MartinDE says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
MartinDE wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
MartinDE wrote:
thevoiceoftruth wrote:
I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?
The Council website has a page dedicated to these works:

www.brighton-hove.go





v.uk/vogue

You can email them and ask to be added to a mailing list; I got an email last week explaining the next set of closures.

I'd say that's pretty good!
Thank you - I'm not sure why that didn't come up in my internet search. I just got the consultation pages. Much appreciated!
I've just realised it didn't come up because it's called 'Transport improvements' rather than road works! Hmm, I think most people will not search for that term!
It's the first result in Google if you search for 'Brighton Vogue', and the first item in the list of 'Local projects' in the Council site's transport section.
I searched for Lewes Road roadworks, not Vogue. Brighton Vogue sounds like a Madonna tribute night!
Well, the Vogue Gyratory is named after the Vogue cinema, which was a pornographic film club... so you're not far off.
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MartinDE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MartinDE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?[/p][/quote]The Council website has a page dedicated to these works: www.brighton-hove.go v.uk/vogue You can email them and ask to be added to a mailing list; I got an email last week explaining the next set of closures. I'd say that's pretty good![/p][/quote]Thank you - I'm not sure why that didn't come up in my internet search. I just got the consultation pages. Much appreciated![/p][/quote]I've just realised it didn't come up because it's called 'Transport improvements' rather than road works! Hmm, I think most people will not search for that term![/p][/quote]It's the first result in Google if you search for 'Brighton Vogue', and the first item in the list of 'Local projects' in the Council site's transport section.[/p][/quote]I searched for Lewes Road roadworks, not Vogue. Brighton Vogue sounds like a Madonna tribute night![/p][/quote]Well, the Vogue Gyratory is named after the Vogue cinema, which was a pornographic film club... so you're not far off. MartinDE
  • Score: 2

4:51pm Mon 18 Aug 14

MartinDE says...

Nosfaratu wrote:
MasonStorm wrote:
2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?
As I said before that's wider than my & most cars even Transit vans.
The cycle lane will be 2m wide for very similar reasons to why the other lanes are 3m wide (wider than the widest bus): you want a safety margin.
[quote][p][bold]Nosfaratu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: 2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?[/p][/quote]As I said before that's wider than my & most cars even Transit vans.[/p][/quote]The cycle lane will be 2m wide for very similar reasons to why the other lanes are 3m wide (wider than the widest bus): you want a safety margin. MartinDE
  • Score: -1

4:59pm Mon 18 Aug 14

MasonStorm says...

MartinDE wrote:
Nosfaratu wrote:
MasonStorm wrote:
2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?
As I said before that's wider than my & most cars even Transit vans.
The cycle lane will be 2m wide for very similar reasons to why the other lanes are 3m wide (wider than the widest bus): you want a safety margin.
I dont want a safety margin that big. Just a complete waste of money really.
[quote][p][bold]MartinDE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nosfaratu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: 2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?[/p][/quote]As I said before that's wider than my & most cars even Transit vans.[/p][/quote]The cycle lane will be 2m wide for very similar reasons to why the other lanes are 3m wide (wider than the widest bus): you want a safety margin.[/p][/quote]I dont want a safety margin that big. Just a complete waste of money really. MasonStorm
  • Score: 4

5:04pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

MasonStorm wrote:
MartinDE wrote:
Nosfaratu wrote:
MasonStorm wrote:
2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?
As I said before that's wider than my & most cars even Transit vans.
The cycle lane will be 2m wide for very similar reasons to why the other lanes are 3m wide (wider than the widest bus): you want a safety margin.
I dont want a safety margin that big. Just a complete waste of money really.
It's nothing to do with a safety margin.

It's to make drivers aware of the presence of a cycle lane.

"The creation of a continuous two-meter wide northbound cycle lane through the gyratory system is designed to increase drivers’ awareness of cyclists. "
[quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MartinDE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nosfaratu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: 2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?[/p][/quote]As I said before that's wider than my & most cars even Transit vans.[/p][/quote]The cycle lane will be 2m wide for very similar reasons to why the other lanes are 3m wide (wider than the widest bus): you want a safety margin.[/p][/quote]I dont want a safety margin that big. Just a complete waste of money really.[/p][/quote]It's nothing to do with a safety margin. It's to make drivers aware of the presence of a cycle lane. "The creation of a continuous two-meter wide northbound cycle lane through the gyratory system is designed to increase drivers’ awareness of cyclists. " notslimjim
  • Score: -1

5:15pm Mon 18 Aug 14

BtnLaurence says...

aat99 wrote:
love it more green moaning/bashing ... let's conveniently forget that the previous labour and tory councils were a shambles as well ... .
Maybe, but at least you could drive around Brighton to see the shambles without getting stuck in gridlock traffic and choking on the increased pollution. You could even see beautifully kept parks and streets without communal bins swamped with piles of rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]aat99[/bold] wrote: love it more green moaning/bashing ... let's conveniently forget that the previous labour and tory councils were a shambles as well ... .[/p][/quote]Maybe, but at least you could drive around Brighton to see the shambles without getting stuck in gridlock traffic and choking on the increased pollution. You could even see beautifully kept parks and streets without communal bins swamped with piles of rubbish. BtnLaurence
  • Score: 5

5:23pm Mon 18 Aug 14

BtnLaurence says...

Nosfaratu wrote:
MasonStorm wrote:
2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?
As I said before that's wider than my & most cars even Transit vans.
Maybe, but at least you could drive around Brighton to see the shambles without getting stuck in gridlock traffic and choking on the increased pollution. You could even see beautifully kept parks and streets without communal bins swamped with piles of rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]Nosfaratu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: 2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?[/p][/quote]As I said before that's wider than my & most cars even Transit vans.[/p][/quote]Maybe, but at least you could drive around Brighton to see the shambles without getting stuck in gridlock traffic and choking on the increased pollution. You could even see beautifully kept parks and streets without communal bins swamped with piles of rubbish. BtnLaurence
  • Score: 4

5:27pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Brightonscouse2 says...

BtnLaurence wrote:
aat99 wrote:
love it more green moaning/bashing ... let's conveniently forget that the previous labour and tory councils were a shambles as well ... .
Maybe, but at least you could drive around Brighton to see the shambles without getting stuck in gridlock traffic and choking on the increased pollution. You could even see beautifully kept parks and streets without communal bins swamped with piles of rubbish.
The communal bins were around long before the Greens came into power.
[quote][p][bold]BtnLaurence[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aat99[/bold] wrote: love it more green moaning/bashing ... let's conveniently forget that the previous labour and tory councils were a shambles as well ... .[/p][/quote]Maybe, but at least you could drive around Brighton to see the shambles without getting stuck in gridlock traffic and choking on the increased pollution. You could even see beautifully kept parks and streets without communal bins swamped with piles of rubbish.[/p][/quote]The communal bins were around long before the Greens came into power. Brightonscouse2
  • Score: -4

5:28pm Mon 18 Aug 14

BtnLaurence says...

Nosfaratu wrote:
MasonStorm wrote:
2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?
As I said before that's wider than my & most cars even Transit vans.
I wouldn't think for a second that it's to make it more difficult for the motorist. No, never.
[quote][p][bold]Nosfaratu[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MasonStorm[/bold] wrote: 2 metre cycle lane? Why does a bike need 2 metres?[/p][/quote]As I said before that's wider than my & most cars even Transit vans.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't think for a second that it's to make it more difficult for the motorist. No, never. BtnLaurence
  • Score: 5

5:33pm Mon 18 Aug 14

BtnLaurence says...

Brightonscouse2 wrote:
BtnLaurence wrote:
aat99 wrote:
love it more green moaning/bashing ... let's conveniently forget that the previous labour and tory councils were a shambles as well ... .
Maybe, but at least you could drive around Brighton to see the shambles without getting stuck in gridlock traffic and choking on the increased pollution. You could even see beautifully kept parks and streets without communal bins swamped with piles of rubbish.
The communal bins were around long before the Greens came into power.
Not quite the collection we have now though.
[quote][p][bold]Brightonscouse2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BtnLaurence[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aat99[/bold] wrote: love it more green moaning/bashing ... let's conveniently forget that the previous labour and tory councils were a shambles as well ... .[/p][/quote]Maybe, but at least you could drive around Brighton to see the shambles without getting stuck in gridlock traffic and choking on the increased pollution. You could even see beautifully kept parks and streets without communal bins swamped with piles of rubbish.[/p][/quote]The communal bins were around long before the Greens came into power.[/p][/quote]Not quite the collection we have now though. BtnLaurence
  • Score: 6

5:36pm Mon 18 Aug 14

aat99 says...

BtnLaurence wrote:
Brightonscouse2 wrote:
BtnLaurence wrote:
aat99 wrote:
love it more green moaning/bashing ... let's conveniently forget that the previous labour and tory councils were a shambles as well ... .
Maybe, but at least you could drive around Brighton to see the shambles without getting stuck in gridlock traffic and choking on the increased pollution. You could even see beautifully kept parks and streets without communal bins swamped with piles of rubbish.
The communal bins were around long before the Greens came into power.
Not quite the collection we have now though.
A lot of the rubbish lying around is due to lazy people. Countless times you see people stuff rubbish into a full bin because the next bin which is half empty is a good 50 ms away .. far too far to walk !
[quote][p][bold]BtnLaurence[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brightonscouse2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BtnLaurence[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aat99[/bold] wrote: love it more green moaning/bashing ... let's conveniently forget that the previous labour and tory councils were a shambles as well ... .[/p][/quote]Maybe, but at least you could drive around Brighton to see the shambles without getting stuck in gridlock traffic and choking on the increased pollution. You could even see beautifully kept parks and streets without communal bins swamped with piles of rubbish.[/p][/quote]The communal bins were around long before the Greens came into power.[/p][/quote]Not quite the collection we have now though.[/p][/quote]A lot of the rubbish lying around is due to lazy people. Countless times you see people stuff rubbish into a full bin because the next bin which is half empty is a good 50 ms away .. far too far to walk ! aat99
  • Score: 0

5:40pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

aat99 wrote:
BtnLaurence wrote:
Brightonscouse2 wrote:
BtnLaurence wrote:
aat99 wrote:
love it more green moaning/bashing ... let's conveniently forget that the previous labour and tory councils were a shambles as well ... .
Maybe, but at least you could drive around Brighton to see the shambles without getting stuck in gridlock traffic and choking on the increased pollution. You could even see beautifully kept parks and streets without communal bins swamped with piles of rubbish.
The communal bins were around long before the Greens came into power.
Not quite the collection we have now though.
A lot of the rubbish lying around is due to lazy people. Countless times you see people stuff rubbish into a full bin because the next bin which is half empty is a good 50 ms away .. far too far to walk !
They were plainly talking about refuse collection.
[quote][p][bold]aat99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BtnLaurence[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brightonscouse2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BtnLaurence[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aat99[/bold] wrote: love it more green moaning/bashing ... let's conveniently forget that the previous labour and tory councils were a shambles as well ... .[/p][/quote]Maybe, but at least you could drive around Brighton to see the shambles without getting stuck in gridlock traffic and choking on the increased pollution. You could even see beautifully kept parks and streets without communal bins swamped with piles of rubbish.[/p][/quote]The communal bins were around long before the Greens came into power.[/p][/quote]Not quite the collection we have now though.[/p][/quote]A lot of the rubbish lying around is due to lazy people. Countless times you see people stuff rubbish into a full bin because the next bin which is half empty is a good 50 ms away .. far too far to walk ![/p][/quote]They were plainly talking about refuse collection. notslimjim
  • Score: 1

6:49pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Bill in Hanover says...

Sussex jim wrote:
More traffic misery for the near future.
And how does a three second start for cyclists reduce "conflict"? Three or four seconds later the accelerating motorist has the frustration of trying to pass the privileged cyclists. Another recipe for road rage- which idiot dreampt that one up?
The 3 second delay is fairly irrelevant as most of the cyclists have ridden through long before the lights turn amber.
[quote][p][bold]Sussex jim[/bold] wrote: More traffic misery for the near future. And how does a three second start for cyclists reduce "conflict"? Three or four seconds later the accelerating motorist has the frustration of trying to pass the privileged cyclists. Another recipe for road rage- which idiot dreampt that one up?[/p][/quote]The 3 second delay is fairly irrelevant as most of the cyclists have ridden through long before the lights turn amber. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 6

7:08pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

Bill in Hanover wrote:
Sussex jim wrote:
More traffic misery for the near future.
And how does a three second start for cyclists reduce "conflict"? Three or four seconds later the accelerating motorist has the frustration of trying to pass the privileged cyclists. Another recipe for road rage- which idiot dreampt that one up?
The 3 second delay is fairly irrelevant as most of the cyclists have ridden through long before the lights turn amber.
And if there is a cycle lane at that point, is a three-second start required or necessary?

The cycles and the traffic are clearly not competing for the same tarmac.
[quote][p][bold]Bill in Hanover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sussex jim[/bold] wrote: More traffic misery for the near future. And how does a three second start for cyclists reduce "conflict"? Three or four seconds later the accelerating motorist has the frustration of trying to pass the privileged cyclists. Another recipe for road rage- which idiot dreampt that one up?[/p][/quote]The 3 second delay is fairly irrelevant as most of the cyclists have ridden through long before the lights turn amber.[/p][/quote]And if there is a cycle lane at that point, is a three-second start required or necessary? The cycles and the traffic are clearly not competing for the same tarmac. notslimjim
  • Score: 3

7:56pm Mon 18 Aug 14

BrightonTrooper says...

I dont really see what is wrong with this giant 'roundabout'...

Oh yes, the phasing of the lights. Traffic heading south to head back towards Sainsburys/Hollingde
an have to negotiate with traffic coming from Upper Lewes Road.. bit of a free for all there.

Sort out the lighrs...no need for new cycle lanes etc etc.
I dont really see what is wrong with this giant 'roundabout'... Oh yes, the phasing of the lights. Traffic heading south to head back towards Sainsburys/Hollingde an have to negotiate with traffic coming from Upper Lewes Road.. bit of a free for all there. Sort out the lighrs...no need for new cycle lanes etc etc. BrightonTrooper
  • Score: 9

8:51pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

aat99 wrote:
love it more green moaning/bashing ... let's conveniently forget that the previous labour and tory councils were a shambles as well ... .
What you say about previous councils may well be true, however, on the shambles scale of complete and utter uselessness the Greens rule supreme, hence past councils are fondly remembered and people moan about the Greens.

I quite like moaning about the Greens, after all their rank stupidity invites it and you can't blame folk for handing it out while we still have the opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]aat99[/bold] wrote: love it more green moaning/bashing ... let's conveniently forget that the previous labour and tory councils were a shambles as well ... .[/p][/quote]What you say about previous councils may well be true, however, on the shambles scale of complete and utter uselessness the Greens rule supreme, hence past councils are fondly remembered and people moan about the Greens. I quite like moaning about the Greens, after all their rank stupidity invites it and you can't blame folk for handing it out while we still have the opportunity. Idontbelieveit1948
  • Score: 8

11:38pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Gribbet says...

Great news for me

Thx
Great news for me Thx Gribbet
  • Score: -2

12:53am Tue 19 Aug 14

whatevernext2013 says...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:
I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?
dont be daft the council have spent all our money on cycle lanes and a giant steel butt plug ,so we can remember them
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceoftruth[/bold] wrote: I've been searching online for information about these road works as certain roads (Upper Lewes Road and Bear Road) are going to be shut. Where is the information on when they are shut and for how long? B&H council website harps on about what a wonderful job they are doing with the Lewes Road and how everyone supported these changes(!) but I couldn't find any information on dates of road closures. East Sussex County Council have a very useful road works page - why can't BHCC keep us informed?[/p][/quote]dont be daft the council have spent all our money on cycle lanes and a giant steel butt plug ,so we can remember them whatevernext2013
  • Score: 4

9:32am Tue 19 Aug 14

rayellerton says...

HJarrs wrote:
Unfortunate that there has to be disruption, but this work should have been done 20 years ago.
No...it should have been left a simple crossroads, we wouldn't have had it but Sainsbury's wanted access to their car park from the front.....even though it could have been put in Hollingdean Road...
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: Unfortunate that there has to be disruption, but this work should have been done 20 years ago.[/p][/quote]No...it should have been left a simple crossroads, we wouldn't have had it but Sainsbury's wanted access to their car park from the front.....even though it could have been put in Hollingdean Road... rayellerton
  • Score: 3

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