Contrasting protests draw crowds

Contrasting protests draw crowds

Pro-Israel supporters. Picture: Sam Stephenson (SS140817H-6)

A pro-Palestine supporter pointing out his views in front of a thin line of police. Picture: Sam Stephenson (SS140817H-1)

Pro-Israel supporters, Robert and Shannon Conway. Picture: Sam Stephenson (SS140817H-14)

Kate Genevieve writes her message for peace. Picture: Sam Stephenson (SS140817E-2)

Flick Nicoll, Adam Gill, Ail Clay and Mick Taylor on the March for Peace. Picture: Sam Stephenson (SS140817E-3)

A walker for peace, Spike Higgs

First published in News by

ACTIVISTS marched silently along the seafront in a “spontaneous outpouring” of will for worldwide peace.

The first Brighton for Peace march started at the Peace Statue in Hove and ended at Concorde 2 for an afternoon of music and dance.

Organisers said the event, on Sunday, was originally prompted by the Israel-Gaza conflict but had taken on a wider, apolitical remit.

Adam Gill, 32, one of the organisers, said: “I believe that instead of taking a particular side the message of peace is a particularly poignant one.

“We are showing that people can stand up and do something without it having to be in conflict with something else.”

He planned to tell walkers: “We are gathered here today under a symbol of peace to demonstrate solidarity with humankind around the world who are suffering as a result of conflict.

“This is not a political walk – we are not allied with any side, religion, or organisation anywhere in the world. Rather this is a humanitarian walk, giving the people of Brighton the chance to come together for peace.

“If people approach us as we walk, please hand them a flyer and give them a smile, but do maintain your silence. This is different, it will be powerful.”

The event raised money for the Disasters Emergency Committee, which helps people in humanitarian crises around the world.

DJ and Brighton-resident Adam Freeland was set to perform alongside Hidden Orchestra, Carnival Collective and the English Disco Lovers at the volunteer-run event.

Among those preparing to set off at the Peace Statue was Kate Genevieve, 32, from Hove. She said: “I hope that humans can be much more, that we can do more than repeat the cycle of violence.

“I like the joyfulness of this gathering and that people have not spiralled into cynicism and pessimism.”

Spike Higgs, 36, wrote on a white ribbon attached to the peace float: “We are not part of this war, we are brothers and sisters and if we kill each other in war then we are killing ourselves.”

She added: “I cannot believe there is so much hatred because of territory and things, it is just awful.”

Campaign supports the Israelis

CAMPAIGNERS rallied to show their support for Israel amid mounting criticism of the state’s latest military action in Gaza.

About 200 people attended the National Rally for Israel and Peace organised by Sussex Friends of Israel in Victoria Gardens, Brighton on Sunday afternoon.

More than 1,900 Palestinians and 67 Israelis have been killed in fighting that began on July 8, the latest round of extreme violence in the long-running conflict.

Supporters in Brighton yesterday spoke of the state’s “right to defend itself” against rocket attacks from Gaza’s government Hamas and hit out at a “biased” media which they felt downplayed atrocities committed by the other side.

Israel supporter Robert Conway, 45, of Hertfordshire, said his daughter was serving in the Israeli army and he had lived there between the age of 11 and 14.

He said: “I would like to see Hamas deposed and the Palestinian Authority take over Gaza. Hamas is an abomination - they are like ISIS.”

Speakers at the rally included retired British army colonel Richard Kemp, former commander of British forces in Afghanistan, who said Israel had an “obligation” to defend itself and Britain would do the same in its place.

The mayor of Israeli settlement Efrat, Oded Revivi, also spoke, highlighting Prime Minister David Cameron’s article in yesterday’s Sunday Telegraph warning of the domestic and international threat of ISIS extremists.

“We don’t want these extremists in our country either,” Mayor Revivi said.

The rally also heard from bereaved mother Rebecca Bat Raphael, a member of the Israeli Palestinian Bereaved Families Forum, whose son was killed by Hamas in 1994.

Joe Donnell, 46, travelled from his home in Sheffield for the event.

He said: “If somebody throws bricks in your window, are you supposed to allow that to happen or are you supposed to defend your property?

“For me the whole basis of my Christianity is rooted in Israel.”

Mr Donnell was threatened with arrest for shouting ‘Nazi scum’ at the group of about 15 Palestine counter-protestors. Insults were traded on both sides.

Some of the pro-Palestine contingent used a megaphone to read out the names of Palestinians who had been killed.

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10:07am Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

Good to see supporters of Israel finally showing up.
Good to see supporters of Israel finally showing up. notslimjim
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10:19am Mon 18 Aug 14

maxiboy_ says...

Why do some Britons constantly concern themselves about these foreign conflicts that have absolutely nothing to do with our people and country?

Time for these people to focus their minds on Britain and preserving our way of life for future generations because there are enemies to be found right here on our own soil.
Why do some Britons constantly concern themselves about these foreign conflicts that have absolutely nothing to do with our people and country? Time for these people to focus their minds on Britain and preserving our way of life for future generations because there are enemies to be found right here on our own soil. maxiboy_
  • Score: -10

10:48am Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

maxiboy_ wrote:
Why do some Britons constantly concern themselves about these foreign conflicts that have absolutely nothing to do with our people and country?

Time for these people to focus their minds on Britain and preserving our way of life for future generations because there are enemies to be found right here on our own soil.
"Why do some Britons constantly concern themselves about these foreign conflicts that have absolutely nothing to do with our people and country?"

Because they can?
[quote][p][bold]maxiboy_[/bold] wrote: Why do some Britons constantly concern themselves about these foreign conflicts that have absolutely nothing to do with our people and country? Time for these people to focus their minds on Britain and preserving our way of life for future generations because there are enemies to be found right here on our own soil.[/p][/quote]"Why do some Britons constantly concern themselves about these foreign conflicts that have absolutely nothing to do with our people and country?" Because they can? notslimjim
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10:59am Mon 18 Aug 14

GaryBee says...

maxiboy_ wrote:
Why do some Britons constantly concern themselves about these foreign conflicts that have absolutely nothing to do with our people and country?

Time for these people to focus their minds on Britain and preserving our way of life for future generations because there are enemies to be found right here on our own soil.
If Britain and the free world turns a blind eye to what is going on in the middle east, with the rise of ISIS, the existence of Hezbollah, Iran trying to create nuclear missiles(even though they say they just want nuclear power for 'peaceful purposes, despite the fact they are probably the biggest oil producers in the world now), these forms of terrorism will spread across Europe and we will see more of it here. We MUST support Israel, the only pluralist, democratic nation in that region. Learn you Geopolitics friend, the world is changing.
[quote][p][bold]maxiboy_[/bold] wrote: Why do some Britons constantly concern themselves about these foreign conflicts that have absolutely nothing to do with our people and country? Time for these people to focus their minds on Britain and preserving our way of life for future generations because there are enemies to be found right here on our own soil.[/p][/quote]If Britain and the free world turns a blind eye to what is going on in the middle east, with the rise of ISIS, the existence of Hezbollah, Iran trying to create nuclear missiles(even though they say they just want nuclear power for 'peaceful purposes, despite the fact they are probably the biggest oil producers in the world now), these forms of terrorism will spread across Europe and we will see more of it here. We MUST support Israel, the only pluralist, democratic nation in that region. Learn you Geopolitics friend, the world is changing. GaryBee
  • Score: 4

11:33am Mon 18 Aug 14

billy goat-gruff says...

Because we caused all this trouble by drawing arbitrary lines on a map after WW1 - the consequences of which have come back to bite us!
Because we caused all this trouble by drawing arbitrary lines on a map after WW1 - the consequences of which have come back to bite us! billy goat-gruff
  • Score: 24

11:35am Mon 18 Aug 14

hursthill says...

We all want peace !!

If Hamas stop firing rockets there will be peace.

If Israel stops defending itself it won't exist.
We all want peace !! If Hamas stop firing rockets there will be peace. If Israel stops defending itself it won't exist. hursthill
  • Score: -1

11:36am Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

billy goat-gruff wrote:
Because we caused all this trouble by drawing arbitrary lines on a map after WW1 - the consequences of which have come back to bite us!
Way back in the 1800s, Churchill was pointing out the evils of islam.
[quote][p][bold]billy goat-gruff[/bold] wrote: Because we caused all this trouble by drawing arbitrary lines on a map after WW1 - the consequences of which have come back to bite us![/p][/quote]Way back in the 1800s, Churchill was pointing out the evils of islam. notslimjim
  • Score: -2

12:45pm Mon 18 Aug 14

whatevernext2013 says...

hursthill wrote:
We all want peace !!

If Hamas stop firing rockets there will be peace.

If Israel stops defending itself it won't exist.
the poor jews with all there american weapons ,having to kill children to save themselves from the evils of islam
[quote][p][bold]hursthill[/bold] wrote: We all want peace !! If Hamas stop firing rockets there will be peace. If Israel stops defending itself it won't exist.[/p][/quote]the poor jews with all there american weapons ,having to kill children to save themselves from the evils of islam whatevernext2013
  • Score: -5

12:45pm Mon 18 Aug 14

whatevernext2013 says...

notslimjim wrote:
billy goat-gruff wrote:
Because we caused all this trouble by drawing arbitrary lines on a map after WW1 - the consequences of which have come back to bite us!
Way back in the 1800s, Churchill was pointing out the evils of islam.
which churchill was that ?
[quote][p][bold]notslimjim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billy goat-gruff[/bold] wrote: Because we caused all this trouble by drawing arbitrary lines on a map after WW1 - the consequences of which have come back to bite us![/p][/quote]Way back in the 1800s, Churchill was pointing out the evils of islam.[/p][/quote]which churchill was that ? whatevernext2013
  • Score: 8

12:50pm Mon 18 Aug 14

whatevernext2013 says...

maxiboy_ wrote:
Why do some Britons constantly concern themselves about these foreign conflicts that have absolutely nothing to do with our people and country?

Time for these people to focus their minds on Britain and preserving our way of life for future generations because there are enemies to be found right here on our own soil.
if it was not for britain and the good old usa ,none of this would be going on why did the usa or britain not take in the jews instead of stealing land in the middle east ,they caused it so its time for them to fix it ,give the jews a homeland in the uk or usa
[quote][p][bold]maxiboy_[/bold] wrote: Why do some Britons constantly concern themselves about these foreign conflicts that have absolutely nothing to do with our people and country? Time for these people to focus their minds on Britain and preserving our way of life for future generations because there are enemies to be found right here on our own soil.[/p][/quote]if it was not for britain and the good old usa ,none of this would be going on why did the usa or britain not take in the jews instead of stealing land in the middle east ,they caused it so its time for them to fix it ,give the jews a homeland in the uk or usa whatevernext2013
  • Score: -1

1:08pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Cyril Bolleaux says...

whatevernext2013 wrote:
maxiboy_ wrote: Why do some Britons constantly concern themselves about these foreign conflicts that have absolutely nothing to do with our people and country? Time for these people to focus their minds on Britain and preserving our way of life for future generations because there are enemies to be found right here on our own soil.
if it was not for britain and the good old usa ,none of this would be going on why did the usa or britain not take in the jews instead of stealing land in the middle east ,they caused it so its time for them to fix it ,give the jews a homeland in the uk or usa
Possibly the reason was that Hitler had already tried that and murdered about 6 million of them.
[quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]maxiboy_[/bold] wrote: Why do some Britons constantly concern themselves about these foreign conflicts that have absolutely nothing to do with our people and country? Time for these people to focus their minds on Britain and preserving our way of life for future generations because there are enemies to be found right here on our own soil.[/p][/quote]if it was not for britain and the good old usa ,none of this would be going on why did the usa or britain not take in the jews instead of stealing land in the middle east ,they caused it so its time for them to fix it ,give the jews a homeland in the uk or usa[/p][/quote]Possibly the reason was that Hitler had already tried that and murdered about 6 million of them. Cyril Bolleaux
  • Score: -1

1:14pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Fight_Back says...

Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.
Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it. Fight_Back
  • Score: 6

1:38pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Cave Johnson says...

Sorry but this march for peace sounds laughable. Completely pointless and only to make themselves feel better about themselves without actually doing anything. Try something constructive instead of your hippy nonsense.
Sorry but this march for peace sounds laughable. Completely pointless and only to make themselves feel better about themselves without actually doing anything. Try something constructive instead of your hippy nonsense. Cave Johnson
  • Score: 4

2:04pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

whatevernext2013 wrote:
notslimjim wrote:
billy goat-gruff wrote:
Because we caused all this trouble by drawing arbitrary lines on a map after WW1 - the consequences of which have come back to bite us!
Way back in the 1800s, Churchill was pointing out the evils of islam.
which churchill was that ?
Winston.

Shame you haven't heard of him.
[quote][p][bold]whatevernext2013[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notslimjim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billy goat-gruff[/bold] wrote: Because we caused all this trouble by drawing arbitrary lines on a map after WW1 - the consequences of which have come back to bite us![/p][/quote]Way back in the 1800s, Churchill was pointing out the evils of islam.[/p][/quote]which churchill was that ?[/p][/quote]Winston. Shame you haven't heard of him. notslimjim
  • Score: -2

2:28pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

Fight_Back wrote:
Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.
Speaking of intelligence, would you care to re-write the final sentence so that it makes sense?
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.[/p][/quote]Speaking of intelligence, would you care to re-write the final sentence so that it makes sense? notslimjim
  • Score: -1

2:31pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Nikski says...

notslimjim wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.
Speaking of intelligence, would you care to re-write the final sentence so that it makes sense?
You would have to rewrite all of your posts for any of them to make sense!
[quote][p][bold]notslimjim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.[/p][/quote]Speaking of intelligence, would you care to re-write the final sentence so that it makes sense?[/p][/quote]You would have to rewrite all of your posts for any of them to make sense! Nikski
  • Score: -1

2:40pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

Nikski wrote:
notslimjim wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.
Speaking of intelligence, would you care to re-write the final sentence so that it makes sense?
You would have to rewrite all of your posts for any of them to make sense!
If you're so clever, why don't you explain what he was trying to say?
[quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notslimjim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.[/p][/quote]Speaking of intelligence, would you care to re-write the final sentence so that it makes sense?[/p][/quote]You would have to rewrite all of your posts for any of them to make sense![/p][/quote]If you're so clever, why don't you explain what he was trying to say? notslimjim
  • Score: 1

3:57pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Nikski says...

notslimjim wrote:
Nikski wrote:
notslimjim wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.
Speaking of intelligence, would you care to re-write the final sentence so that it makes sense?
You would have to rewrite all of your posts for any of them to make sense!
If you're so clever, why don't you explain what he was trying to say?
I would suggest he was making the point that the reason rockets are being directed at Israel from Gaza is the illegal occupation of Gaza by israel. In other words, it's simple to put the blame on the Palestinian side for firing rockets and therefore they should expect retaliation from Israel. That ignores the fact that Israel has built illegal settlements, disregarded countless UN resolutions as well as international law and imposed a severe blockade on Gaza for many years.
Let me know if you're still unclear!
[quote][p][bold]notslimjim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notslimjim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.[/p][/quote]Speaking of intelligence, would you care to re-write the final sentence so that it makes sense?[/p][/quote]You would have to rewrite all of your posts for any of them to make sense![/p][/quote]If you're so clever, why don't you explain what he was trying to say?[/p][/quote]I would suggest he was making the point that the reason rockets are being directed at Israel from Gaza is the illegal occupation of Gaza by israel. In other words, it's simple to put the blame on the Palestinian side for firing rockets and therefore they should expect retaliation from Israel. That ignores the fact that Israel has built illegal settlements, disregarded countless UN resolutions as well as international law and imposed a severe blockade on Gaza for many years. Let me know if you're still unclear! Nikski
  • Score: 0

4:05pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

Nikski wrote:
notslimjim wrote:
Nikski wrote:
notslimjim wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.
Speaking of intelligence, would you care to re-write the final sentence so that it makes sense?
You would have to rewrite all of your posts for any of them to make sense!
If you're so clever, why don't you explain what he was trying to say?
I would suggest he was making the point that the reason rockets are being directed at Israel from Gaza is the illegal occupation of Gaza by israel. In other words, it's simple to put the blame on the Palestinian side for firing rockets and therefore they should expect retaliation from Israel. That ignores the fact that Israel has built illegal settlements, disregarded countless UN resolutions as well as international law and imposed a severe blockade on Gaza for many years.
Let me know if you're still unclear!
Israel left Gaza in 2006, and has shown no desire to return to administer it. It dismantled all settlements there, and none have been rebuilt or relocated there.

Since that time, countless thousands of missiles have rained upon Israel from Gaza for no reason whatsoever.

A blockage was placed upon Gaza by Israel AND Egypt when Hamas was elected to the Palestinian Authority in 2006. It was designed to prevent munitions etc from entering the area.

Hamas was elected on a ticket vowing the destruction of Israel.

The fact that it is so simple to blame Gazans for what happens to them when Israel retaliates is because they are responsible.
[quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notslimjim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notslimjim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.[/p][/quote]Speaking of intelligence, would you care to re-write the final sentence so that it makes sense?[/p][/quote]You would have to rewrite all of your posts for any of them to make sense![/p][/quote]If you're so clever, why don't you explain what he was trying to say?[/p][/quote]I would suggest he was making the point that the reason rockets are being directed at Israel from Gaza is the illegal occupation of Gaza by israel. In other words, it's simple to put the blame on the Palestinian side for firing rockets and therefore they should expect retaliation from Israel. That ignores the fact that Israel has built illegal settlements, disregarded countless UN resolutions as well as international law and imposed a severe blockade on Gaza for many years. Let me know if you're still unclear![/p][/quote]Israel left Gaza in 2006, and has shown no desire to return to administer it. It dismantled all settlements there, and none have been rebuilt or relocated there. Since that time, countless thousands of missiles have rained upon Israel from Gaza for no reason whatsoever. A blockage was placed upon Gaza by Israel AND Egypt when Hamas was elected to the Palestinian Authority in 2006. It was designed to prevent munitions etc from entering the area. Hamas was elected on a ticket vowing the destruction of Israel. The fact that it is so simple to blame Gazans for what happens to them when Israel retaliates is because they are responsible. notslimjim
  • Score: -2

4:50pm Mon 18 Aug 14

hursthill says...

Israel has no territorial claim on Gaza. It is Hamas who want to steal & colonise Israeli land, imposing their racist homophobic ideology.

Hamas are responsible for the destruction, each of their rockets could kill hundred kids. Over 500 fell short killing countless Palestinians. This is in addition to the hundreds of Palestinians previously murdered by Hamas for opposing their totalitarian rule.
Israel has no territorial claim on Gaza. It is Hamas who want to steal & colonise Israeli land, imposing their racist homophobic ideology. Hamas are responsible for the destruction, each of their rockets could kill hundred kids. Over 500 fell short killing countless Palestinians. This is in addition to the hundreds of Palestinians previously murdered by Hamas for opposing their totalitarian rule. hursthill
  • Score: 3

7:02pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Nikski says...

notslimjim wrote:
Nikski wrote:
notslimjim wrote:
Nikski wrote:
notslimjim wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.
Speaking of intelligence, would you care to re-write the final sentence so that it makes sense?
You would have to rewrite all of your posts for any of them to make sense!
If you're so clever, why don't you explain what he was trying to say?
I would suggest he was making the point that the reason rockets are being directed at Israel from Gaza is the illegal occupation of Gaza by israel. In other words, it's simple to put the blame on the Palestinian side for firing rockets and therefore they should expect retaliation from Israel. That ignores the fact that Israel has built illegal settlements, disregarded countless UN resolutions as well as international law and imposed a severe blockade on Gaza for many years.
Let me know if you're still unclear!
Israel left Gaza in 2006, and has shown no desire to return to administer it. It dismantled all settlements there, and none have been rebuilt or relocated there.

Since that time, countless thousands of missiles have rained upon Israel from Gaza for no reason whatsoever.

A blockage was placed upon Gaza by Israel AND Egypt when Hamas was elected to the Palestinian Authority in 2006. It was designed to prevent munitions etc from entering the area.

Hamas was elected on a ticket vowing the destruction of Israel.

The fact that it is so simple to blame Gazans for what happens to them when Israel retaliates is because they are responsible.
Your lack of knowledge is well known but you've surpassed yourself this time. Come back when you are properly informed and we can discuss.
[quote][p][bold]notslimjim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notslimjim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notslimjim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.[/p][/quote]Speaking of intelligence, would you care to re-write the final sentence so that it makes sense?[/p][/quote]You would have to rewrite all of your posts for any of them to make sense![/p][/quote]If you're so clever, why don't you explain what he was trying to say?[/p][/quote]I would suggest he was making the point that the reason rockets are being directed at Israel from Gaza is the illegal occupation of Gaza by israel. In other words, it's simple to put the blame on the Palestinian side for firing rockets and therefore they should expect retaliation from Israel. That ignores the fact that Israel has built illegal settlements, disregarded countless UN resolutions as well as international law and imposed a severe blockade on Gaza for many years. Let me know if you're still unclear![/p][/quote]Israel left Gaza in 2006, and has shown no desire to return to administer it. It dismantled all settlements there, and none have been rebuilt or relocated there. Since that time, countless thousands of missiles have rained upon Israel from Gaza for no reason whatsoever. A blockage was placed upon Gaza by Israel AND Egypt when Hamas was elected to the Palestinian Authority in 2006. It was designed to prevent munitions etc from entering the area. Hamas was elected on a ticket vowing the destruction of Israel. The fact that it is so simple to blame Gazans for what happens to them when Israel retaliates is because they are responsible.[/p][/quote]Your lack of knowledge is well known but you've surpassed yourself this time. Come back when you are properly informed and we can discuss. Nikski
  • Score: 1

7:06pm Mon 18 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

Nikski wrote:
notslimjim wrote:
Nikski wrote:
notslimjim wrote:
Nikski wrote:
notslimjim wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.
Speaking of intelligence, would you care to re-write the final sentence so that it makes sense?
You would have to rewrite all of your posts for any of them to make sense!
If you're so clever, why don't you explain what he was trying to say?
I would suggest he was making the point that the reason rockets are being directed at Israel from Gaza is the illegal occupation of Gaza by israel. In other words, it's simple to put the blame on the Palestinian side for firing rockets and therefore they should expect retaliation from Israel. That ignores the fact that Israel has built illegal settlements, disregarded countless UN resolutions as well as international law and imposed a severe blockade on Gaza for many years.
Let me know if you're still unclear!
Israel left Gaza in 2006, and has shown no desire to return to administer it. It dismantled all settlements there, and none have been rebuilt or relocated there.

Since that time, countless thousands of missiles have rained upon Israel from Gaza for no reason whatsoever.

A blockage was placed upon Gaza by Israel AND Egypt when Hamas was elected to the Palestinian Authority in 2006. It was designed to prevent munitions etc from entering the area.

Hamas was elected on a ticket vowing the destruction of Israel.

The fact that it is so simple to blame Gazans for what happens to them when Israel retaliates is because they are responsible.
Your lack of knowledge is well known but you've surpassed yourself this time. Come back when you are properly informed and we can discuss.
You were unable to factually correct my post, thereby accepting that it was right.

Note that I was able to correct yours.

You're welcome.
[quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notslimjim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notslimjim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nikski[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notslimjim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: Doesn't Mr Donnell sound like an intelligent and well rounded chap ? As for his example of someone throwing a brick through your window - he seems to have conveniently forgotten to mention that your house used to be the brick throwers and you just took it.[/p][/quote]Speaking of intelligence, would you care to re-write the final sentence so that it makes sense?[/p][/quote]You would have to rewrite all of your posts for any of them to make sense![/p][/quote]If you're so clever, why don't you explain what he was trying to say?[/p][/quote]I would suggest he was making the point that the reason rockets are being directed at Israel from Gaza is the illegal occupation of Gaza by israel. In other words, it's simple to put the blame on the Palestinian side for firing rockets and therefore they should expect retaliation from Israel. That ignores the fact that Israel has built illegal settlements, disregarded countless UN resolutions as well as international law and imposed a severe blockade on Gaza for many years. Let me know if you're still unclear![/p][/quote]Israel left Gaza in 2006, and has shown no desire to return to administer it. It dismantled all settlements there, and none have been rebuilt or relocated there. Since that time, countless thousands of missiles have rained upon Israel from Gaza for no reason whatsoever. A blockage was placed upon Gaza by Israel AND Egypt when Hamas was elected to the Palestinian Authority in 2006. It was designed to prevent munitions etc from entering the area. Hamas was elected on a ticket vowing the destruction of Israel. The fact that it is so simple to blame Gazans for what happens to them when Israel retaliates is because they are responsible.[/p][/quote]Your lack of knowledge is well known but you've surpassed yourself this time. Come back when you are properly informed and we can discuss.[/p][/quote]You were unable to factually correct my post, thereby accepting that it was right. Note that I was able to correct yours. You're welcome. notslimjim
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