Many councillors set to stand down with difficulty in balancing family life and work

Green councillors Jason and Ania Kitcat

Green councillors Jason and Ania Kitcat

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A THIRD of councillors in Brighton and Hove could stand down before the next election.

Struggling to balance family life and council responsibilities has left scores of councillors already indicating that they will not stand for re-election in a peer review by the Local Government Association.

Conservatives confirmed two councillors will stand down at the 2015 election while Labour said at least four representatives will quit.

The Green group is still to confirm all of its candidates but if the LGA report is correct, as many as half of their 20 councillors could stand down.

Party leader Jason Kitcat, his wife and fellow Regency ward representative Ania Kitcat, housing chairman Bill Randall and deputy leader Ian Davey have already confirmed they will not stand for re-election.

The LGA report said a “significant proportion” of elected members were “looking for greater understanding and flexibility” from the authority and recommended the council should look at revising the “timing and frequency” of council meetings.

Green councillor Geoffrey Bowden, who said he had still to make up his own mind on whether to stand again, said he had to balance 40 hours of council work a week with running his own company and finding time for a home life.

He said receiving calls about council work at 3am “came with the territory” of the job.

He said: “If you look at the profile of the Green group it’s considerably younger than the other groups, we have councillors with young children and babies.

“With all the commitments of being a councillor, it’s not surprising that a lot of people are thinking about their futures.”

Councillor Ian Davey said it had been an honour to serve but the role was not “a job for life”.

He said: “Being a councillor is a rewarding but demanding role that leaves little time to devote to one’s family or to pursue other professional interests and I need to prioritise both of these in the coming years.”

Green councillor Ruth Buckley, deputy leader of Brighton and Hove City Council, said the Green party was finalising its first wave of selections but further phases meant the process would not be completed until October.

She said: “Career politicians lose the valuable perspective of the person on the street.”

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7:03am Thu 21 Aug 14

Maxwell's Ghost says...

Work life balance. Well the Greens didn't give a toss about that when its band of time-rich, retired old boys like Randall and Davey introduced transport policies only the wealthy, time rich or student voters can endure or afford.
Then we have the Kitkats claiming more than £50,000 between them in allowances in the last financial year telling us we should cycle to work and drop our kids off at two different schools in the city before we start a day's work. Do they do this? Do they know that two in three children grow up in single parent homes where mum does everything including work full time. What about our work life balance? Who pays for your child care?
And they voted for us to pay for their i360 vanity project and are now walking away.
And why did they fail to improve the basic core service of recycling, why is it worse now than in the history of the city?
For those of you voting at next year's election, whatever your politics make sure you do some research on the candidates you intend to vote for before putting an X in the box because you are actually putting £ in the box.
Work life balance. Well the Greens didn't give a toss about that when its band of time-rich, retired old boys like Randall and Davey introduced transport policies only the wealthy, time rich or student voters can endure or afford. Then we have the Kitkats claiming more than £50,000 between them in allowances in the last financial year telling us we should cycle to work and drop our kids off at two different schools in the city before we start a day's work. Do they do this? Do they know that two in three children grow up in single parent homes where mum does everything including work full time. What about our work life balance? Who pays for your child care? And they voted for us to pay for their i360 vanity project and are now walking away. And why did they fail to improve the basic core service of recycling, why is it worse now than in the history of the city? For those of you voting at next year's election, whatever your politics make sure you do some research on the candidates you intend to vote for before putting an X in the box because you are actually putting £ in the box. Maxwell's Ghost
  • Score: 74

7:34am Thu 21 Aug 14

JHunty says...

Actually I dont have an issue with councillors claiming expenses. Though in the interests of transparency I would prefer that they were simply paid a wage.
It does take a lot of dedication to attend all the meetings that are called for councillors.
Personally I thought Kitkat was the best of a pretty ropey lot with Ben Duncan the worst. Kitkat had a lot of responsibility, more than St Lucas. whilst Duncan just wanted to snipe from the side lines whilst dreaming of putting Brighton in the front line of the fight to overthrow the government.
One of the many reasons Russell Brand was an idiot for calling on people not to engage in the democratic system and not to vote, is not just that the greek root of the word idiot is in part derived from their concept of a person too stupid to vote, but by not voting you open the door for people you disagree with to win elections almost uncontested. Its always the lunatic fringe that seem to have the energy to get out and vote so by not doing so you allow them to gain power. What right do people have to complain when the result isnt as they would wish it to be when they cant be arsed to participate in the first place.
Actually I dont have an issue with councillors claiming expenses. Though in the interests of transparency I would prefer that they were simply paid a wage. It does take a lot of dedication to attend all the meetings that are called for councillors. Personally I thought Kitkat was the best of a pretty ropey lot with Ben Duncan the worst. Kitkat had a lot of responsibility, more than St Lucas. whilst Duncan just wanted to snipe from the side lines whilst dreaming of putting Brighton in the front line of the fight to overthrow the government. One of the many reasons Russell Brand was an idiot for calling on people not to engage in the democratic system and not to vote, is not just that the greek root of the word idiot is in part derived from their concept of a person too stupid to vote, but by not voting you open the door for people you disagree with to win elections almost uncontested. Its always the lunatic fringe that seem to have the energy to get out and vote so by not doing so you allow them to gain power. What right do people have to complain when the result isnt as they would wish it to be when they cant be arsed to participate in the first place. JHunty
  • Score: 38

7:48am Thu 21 Aug 14

still waiting says...

"Councillors set to stand down with difficulty in balancing family life and work". Oh, really? You sure it's not just something to do with standing down before you're voted out. The reason rats survive, I suppose, is because they know all about sinking ships.
"Councillors set to stand down with difficulty in balancing family life and work". Oh, really? You sure it's not just something to do with standing down before you're voted out. The reason rats survive, I suppose, is because they know all about sinking ships. still waiting
  • Score: 42

8:25am Thu 21 Aug 14

tom servo says...

"“If you look at the profile of the Green group it’s considerably younger than the other groups, we have Councillors with young children and babies"

Yes that's the reason.... and I'm sure if the Greens thought they had a cats chance in hell of being re-elected then half of them would not be considering jumping ship...... or maybe not.

What a farce, good riddance.
"“If you look at the profile of the Green group it’s considerably younger than the other groups, we have Councillors with young children and babies" Yes that's the reason.... and I'm sure if the Greens thought they had a cats chance in hell of being re-elected then half of them would not be considering jumping ship...... or maybe not. What a farce, good riddance. tom servo
  • Score: 46

8:30am Thu 21 Aug 14

Thay Qon U says...

The Green Party councillors have already employed steps to siloise and segregate their 'work'- life activities.

If you look on the BHCC web-site Councillors' Declarations of Interests the majority of the Green Party councillors, unlike those from the other parties, have hidden their home contact details behind a veneer of 'not publicised for security' reasons.

Something to hide? Don't want to have to face the 'inbreds'?
The Green Party councillors have already employed steps to siloise and segregate their 'work'- life activities. If you look on the BHCC web-site Councillors' Declarations of Interests the majority of the Green Party councillors, unlike those from the other parties, have hidden their home contact details behind a veneer of 'not publicised for security' reasons. Something to hide? Don't want to have to face the 'inbreds'? Thay Qon U
  • Score: 33

8:31am Thu 21 Aug 14

Quiterie says...

Regardless of whether you agree with their politics or not most Councillors work hard and work long, often unsociable hours on Council business. I can well believe the 40 hours that Geoffrey Bowden mentions. I imagine for some it's even more than this. I also don't begrudge them the allowances they receive (which aren't huge). I don't think any of them are in it for the money.

They have a lot of responsibility (admittedly some don't handle that responsibility very well), but they've been elected into those roles through a democratic process. They also receive a huge amount of abuse into the bargain. If people don't like the Councillors we've got or they think it's an easy ride or they think it's a nice little earner, then they might want to consider standing themselves next year.
Regardless of whether you agree with their politics or not most Councillors work hard and work long, often unsociable hours on Council business. I can well believe the 40 hours that Geoffrey Bowden mentions. I imagine for some it's even more than this. I also don't begrudge them the allowances they receive (which aren't huge). I don't think any of them are in it for the money. They have a lot of responsibility (admittedly some don't handle that responsibility very well), but they've been elected into those roles through a democratic process. They also receive a huge amount of abuse into the bargain. If people don't like the Councillors we've got or they think it's an easy ride or they think it's a nice little earner, then they might want to consider standing themselves next year. Quiterie
  • Score: 18

8:47am Thu 21 Aug 14

Fight_Back says...

Quiterie wrote:
Regardless of whether you agree with their politics or not most Councillors work hard and work long, often unsociable hours on Council business. I can well believe the 40 hours that Geoffrey Bowden mentions. I imagine for some it's even more than this. I also don't begrudge them the allowances they receive (which aren't huge). I don't think any of them are in it for the money.

They have a lot of responsibility (admittedly some don't handle that responsibility very well), but they've been elected into those roles through a democratic process. They also receive a huge amount of abuse into the bargain. If people don't like the Councillors we've got or they think it's an easy ride or they think it's a nice little earner, then they might want to consider standing themselves next year.
Have to agree with this post. Most councillors regardless of their party put in a lot of hard work ( we'll exclude Alex Phillips from that group as she seems to think clearing off to Africa is a way of serving her voters ).

I doubt many commentators on here would be prepared to work 40 hours a week - many of them being during unsocial hours - and take phone calls in the middle of the night for around £11k a year.

Obviously some councillors bring the role into disrepute ( step forward Ben Duncan ) but overall they work very hard. Now if we're talking competence that's something completely different entirely.

I wouldn't mind standing as a councillor but doing that while holding down a full time job and with a young family makes it impossible. I'd also struggle as I wouldn't want to be part of any party - that's another issue that needs resolving, the difficulty of becoming a councillor as an independent.
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: Regardless of whether you agree with their politics or not most Councillors work hard and work long, often unsociable hours on Council business. I can well believe the 40 hours that Geoffrey Bowden mentions. I imagine for some it's even more than this. I also don't begrudge them the allowances they receive (which aren't huge). I don't think any of them are in it for the money. They have a lot of responsibility (admittedly some don't handle that responsibility very well), but they've been elected into those roles through a democratic process. They also receive a huge amount of abuse into the bargain. If people don't like the Councillors we've got or they think it's an easy ride or they think it's a nice little earner, then they might want to consider standing themselves next year.[/p][/quote]Have to agree with this post. Most councillors regardless of their party put in a lot of hard work ( we'll exclude Alex Phillips from that group as she seems to think clearing off to Africa is a way of serving her voters ). I doubt many commentators on here would be prepared to work 40 hours a week - many of them being during unsocial hours - and take phone calls in the middle of the night for around £11k a year. Obviously some councillors bring the role into disrepute ( step forward Ben Duncan ) but overall they work very hard. Now if we're talking competence that's something completely different entirely. I wouldn't mind standing as a councillor but doing that while holding down a full time job and with a young family makes it impossible. I'd also struggle as I wouldn't want to be part of any party - that's another issue that needs resolving, the difficulty of becoming a councillor as an independent. Fight_Back
  • Score: 22

9:04am Thu 21 Aug 14

Max Ripple says...

Fight_Back wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
Regardless of whether you agree with their politics or not most Councillors work hard and work long, often unsociable hours on Council business. I can well believe the 40 hours that Geoffrey Bowden mentions. I imagine for some it's even more than this. I also don't begrudge them the allowances they receive (which aren't huge). I don't think any of them are in it for the money.

They have a lot of responsibility (admittedly some don't handle that responsibility very well), but they've been elected into those roles through a democratic process. They also receive a huge amount of abuse into the bargain. If people don't like the Councillors we've got or they think it's an easy ride or they think it's a nice little earner, then they might want to consider standing themselves next year.
Have to agree with this post. Most councillors regardless of their party put in a lot of hard work ( we'll exclude Alex Phillips from that group as she seems to think clearing off to Africa is a way of serving her voters ).

I doubt many commentators on here would be prepared to work 40 hours a week - many of them being during unsocial hours - and take phone calls in the middle of the night for around £11k a year.

Obviously some councillors bring the role into disrepute ( step forward Ben Duncan ) but overall they work very hard. Now if we're talking competence that's something completely different entirely.

I wouldn't mind standing as a councillor but doing that while holding down a full time job and with a young family makes it impossible. I'd also struggle as I wouldn't want to be part of any party - that's another issue that needs resolving, the difficulty of becoming a councillor as an independent.
I totally agree with both of these posts. A councillor gets a basic £11,500 for their role which means you are on call virtually 24 hours a day and can easily mean 40 hours per week. How many of you moaners out there would do that? It is true it can get bumped up a by a couple of thousand if you sit on more committees (which of course leads to more work).
Being a Councillor is not a soft option as many people think. But you do need to keep the interests and needs of the residents at the front of your mind in all things rather than pursuing personal or party led idealogical policies and projects - which is why the Greens have got it all wrong and caused so many problems.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: Regardless of whether you agree with their politics or not most Councillors work hard and work long, often unsociable hours on Council business. I can well believe the 40 hours that Geoffrey Bowden mentions. I imagine for some it's even more than this. I also don't begrudge them the allowances they receive (which aren't huge). I don't think any of them are in it for the money. They have a lot of responsibility (admittedly some don't handle that responsibility very well), but they've been elected into those roles through a democratic process. They also receive a huge amount of abuse into the bargain. If people don't like the Councillors we've got or they think it's an easy ride or they think it's a nice little earner, then they might want to consider standing themselves next year.[/p][/quote]Have to agree with this post. Most councillors regardless of their party put in a lot of hard work ( we'll exclude Alex Phillips from that group as she seems to think clearing off to Africa is a way of serving her voters ). I doubt many commentators on here would be prepared to work 40 hours a week - many of them being during unsocial hours - and take phone calls in the middle of the night for around £11k a year. Obviously some councillors bring the role into disrepute ( step forward Ben Duncan ) but overall they work very hard. Now if we're talking competence that's something completely different entirely. I wouldn't mind standing as a councillor but doing that while holding down a full time job and with a young family makes it impossible. I'd also struggle as I wouldn't want to be part of any party - that's another issue that needs resolving, the difficulty of becoming a councillor as an independent.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with both of these posts. A councillor gets a basic £11,500 for their role which means you are on call virtually 24 hours a day and can easily mean 40 hours per week. How many of you moaners out there would do that? It is true it can get bumped up a by a couple of thousand if you sit on more committees (which of course leads to more work). Being a Councillor is not a soft option as many people think. But you do need to keep the interests and needs of the residents at the front of your mind in all things rather than pursuing personal or party led idealogical policies and projects - which is why the Greens have got it all wrong and caused so many problems. Max Ripple
  • Score: 16

9:18am Thu 21 Aug 14

ThinkBrighton says...

How are the kitkats going to manage without the £52,500.00 that they have conned out of the Brighton taxpayer every year, perhaps Mr kitkat will have to get a job that doesn't go into liquidation now.
How are the kitkats going to manage without the £52,500.00 that they have conned out of the Brighton taxpayer every year, perhaps Mr kitkat will have to get a job that doesn't go into liquidation now. ThinkBrighton
  • Score: 9

9:33am Thu 21 Aug 14

Bsxking1 says...

ThinkBrighton wrote:
How are the kitkats going to manage without the £52,500.00 that they have conned out of the Brighton taxpayer every year, perhaps Mr kitkat will have to get a job that doesn't go into liquidation now.
Kitcat is batting way above his league here
[quote][p][bold]ThinkBrighton[/bold] wrote: How are the kitkats going to manage without the £52,500.00 that they have conned out of the Brighton taxpayer every year, perhaps Mr kitkat will have to get a job that doesn't go into liquidation now.[/p][/quote]Kitcat is batting way above his league here Bsxking1
  • Score: 11

10:26am Thu 21 Aug 14

NickBrt says...

I would empathise with them if just one of them had one ounce (gram) of consideration for the people they are supposed to represent. none of them do, Their only consideration is for their inflated egos which they pump up at every possible opportunity.
I would empathise with them if just one of them had one ounce (gram) of consideration for the people they are supposed to represent. none of them do, Their only consideration is for their inflated egos which they pump up at every possible opportunity. NickBrt
  • Score: 7

10:37am Thu 21 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

If these people 'work very hard', they are either massively incompetent or deliberately making this city a dump.
If these people 'work very hard', they are either massively incompetent or deliberately making this city a dump. notslimjim
  • Score: 5

10:39am Thu 21 Aug 14

theargusissoinformative says...

NickBrt wrote:
I would empathise with them if just one of them had one ounce (gram) of consideration for the people they are supposed to represent. none of them do, Their only consideration is for their inflated egos which they pump up at every possible opportunity.
Only a few of them have inflated egos. I doubt if you can name all of the Green councillors off the top of your head - they are all quite different.
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: I would empathise with them if just one of them had one ounce (gram) of consideration for the people they are supposed to represent. none of them do, Their only consideration is for their inflated egos which they pump up at every possible opportunity.[/p][/quote]Only a few of them have inflated egos. I doubt if you can name all of the Green councillors off the top of your head - they are all quite different. theargusissoinformative
  • Score: -9

10:40am Thu 21 Aug 14

fredflintstone1 says...

Councillors need to reflect on what they're doing, focus on key services and run those well. A lot of what they do is completely unnecessary and of no benefit to their constituents - in fact, quite the reverse. And much of this unnecessary, ill-informed meddling in turn generates the need for more work.

Once elected of course, they tend to ignore constituents these days anyway. Both I and others have had communications to Leo Littman ignored - it would be interesting to know if he is the worst councillor when it comes to replying to correspondence? This should be a key performance indicator for all councillors and published annually.
Councillors need to reflect on what they're doing, focus on key services and run those well. A lot of what they do is completely unnecessary and of no benefit to their constituents - in fact, quite the reverse. And much of this unnecessary, ill-informed meddling in turn generates the need for more work. Once elected of course, they tend to ignore constituents these days anyway. Both I and others have had communications to Leo Littman ignored - it would be interesting to know if he is the worst councillor when it comes to replying to correspondence? This should be a key performance indicator for all councillors and published annually. fredflintstone1
  • Score: 5

10:42am Thu 21 Aug 14

Fight_Back says...

NickBrt wrote:
I would empathise with them if just one of them had one ounce (gram) of consideration for the people they are supposed to represent. none of them do, Their only consideration is for their inflated egos which they pump up at every possible opportunity.
I can only assume you've never had direct contact with any councillors when you've had a problem that needed sorting ? Most councillors I've met or spoken to have been anything but egotistical. Indeed most have been friendly, helpful and understanding. The exception being a very small number like Davey and Kitcat. I have nothing but praise for Cllrs Barnett and Janio - they're worth every penny and more.
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: I would empathise with them if just one of them had one ounce (gram) of consideration for the people they are supposed to represent. none of them do, Their only consideration is for their inflated egos which they pump up at every possible opportunity.[/p][/quote]I can only assume you've never had direct contact with any councillors when you've had a problem that needed sorting ? Most councillors I've met or spoken to have been anything but egotistical. Indeed most have been friendly, helpful and understanding. The exception being a very small number like Davey and Kitcat. I have nothing but praise for Cllrs Barnett and Janio - they're worth every penny and more. Fight_Back
  • Score: 9

11:03am Thu 21 Aug 14

theargusissoinformative says...

Fight_Back wrote:
NickBrt wrote:
I would empathise with them if just one of them had one ounce (gram) of consideration for the people they are supposed to represent. none of them do, Their only consideration is for their inflated egos which they pump up at every possible opportunity.
I can only assume you've never had direct contact with any councillors when you've had a problem that needed sorting ? Most councillors I've met or spoken to have been anything but egotistical. Indeed most have been friendly, helpful and understanding. The exception being a very small number like Davey and Kitcat. I have nothing but praise for Cllrs Barnett and Janio - they're worth every penny and more.
This does appear to be party politics that has been clumsily disguised as careful consideration. Something about the names that you happen to have chosen.
[quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: I would empathise with them if just one of them had one ounce (gram) of consideration for the people they are supposed to represent. none of them do, Their only consideration is for their inflated egos which they pump up at every possible opportunity.[/p][/quote]I can only assume you've never had direct contact with any councillors when you've had a problem that needed sorting ? Most councillors I've met or spoken to have been anything but egotistical. Indeed most have been friendly, helpful and understanding. The exception being a very small number like Davey and Kitcat. I have nothing but praise for Cllrs Barnett and Janio - they're worth every penny and more.[/p][/quote]This does appear to be party politics that has been clumsily disguised as careful consideration. Something about the names that you happen to have chosen. theargusissoinformative
  • Score: -10

11:15am Thu 21 Aug 14

Fight_Back says...

theargusissoinformat
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wrote:
Fight_Back wrote:
NickBrt wrote:
I would empathise with them if just one of them had one ounce (gram) of consideration for the people they are supposed to represent. none of them do, Their only consideration is for their inflated egos which they pump up at every possible opportunity.
I can only assume you've never had direct contact with any councillors when you've had a problem that needed sorting ? Most councillors I've met or spoken to have been anything but egotistical. Indeed most have been friendly, helpful and understanding. The exception being a very small number like Davey and Kitcat. I have nothing but praise for Cllrs Barnett and Janio - they're worth every penny and more.
This does appear to be party politics that has been clumsily disguised as careful consideration. Something about the names that you happen to have chosen.
I've chosen those names as they are councillors I have direct contact with. I can add in some Labour if you like such as Cllrs Fitch and Morgan both of whom I've had dealings with and were helpful and polite. I named those two Green councillors as when I contacted them about something they didn't respond at all until councillors from other parties had fixed the problem. Only then did respond to me and it was only to attack the councillors from Labour and the Conservatives that solved the problem. Maybe if the Greens stopped playing party politics they might be more respected. You only need to watch their tirades, sorry speeches, in council meetings to see how rude and comabtitive they really are.
[quote][p][bold]theargusissoinformat ive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fight_Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: I would empathise with them if just one of them had one ounce (gram) of consideration for the people they are supposed to represent. none of them do, Their only consideration is for their inflated egos which they pump up at every possible opportunity.[/p][/quote]I can only assume you've never had direct contact with any councillors when you've had a problem that needed sorting ? Most councillors I've met or spoken to have been anything but egotistical. Indeed most have been friendly, helpful and understanding. The exception being a very small number like Davey and Kitcat. I have nothing but praise for Cllrs Barnett and Janio - they're worth every penny and more.[/p][/quote]This does appear to be party politics that has been clumsily disguised as careful consideration. Something about the names that you happen to have chosen.[/p][/quote]I've chosen those names as they are councillors I have direct contact with. I can add in some Labour if you like such as Cllrs Fitch and Morgan both of whom I've had dealings with and were helpful and polite. I named those two Green councillors as when I contacted them about something they didn't respond at all until councillors from other parties had fixed the problem. Only then did respond to me and it was only to attack the councillors from Labour and the Conservatives that solved the problem. Maybe if the Greens stopped playing party politics they might be more respected. You only need to watch their tirades, sorry speeches, in council meetings to see how rude and comabtitive they really are. Fight_Back
  • Score: 18

11:56am Thu 21 Aug 14

Martha Gunn says...

Can anyone confirm if they have ever got an acknowlegment or response of any kind from Cllr. Duncan?

Many of the Green councillors elected last time came out blinking into the sunshine of their unexpected victories and have been bewildered ever since.

They had, and still have, not a clue and should never have been given a place in public life.

Let's make sure it doesn't happen again and that the tragedy that has infested our city is never repeated.
Can anyone confirm if they have ever got an acknowlegment or response of any kind from Cllr. Duncan? Many of the Green councillors elected last time came out blinking into the sunshine of their unexpected victories and have been bewildered ever since. They had, and still have, not a clue and should never have been given a place in public life. Let's make sure it doesn't happen again and that the tragedy that has infested our city is never repeated. Martha Gunn
  • Score: 19

11:59am Thu 21 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

Martha Gunn wrote:
Can anyone confirm if they have ever got an acknowlegment or response of any kind from Cllr. Duncan?

Many of the Green councillors elected last time came out blinking into the sunshine of their unexpected victories and have been bewildered ever since.

They had, and still have, not a clue and should never have been given a place in public life.

Let's make sure it doesn't happen again and that the tragedy that has infested our city is never repeated.
It's like the BNP councillors in Dagenham. They hadn't a clue what they were doing.

They even once voted against their own proposal, lol.
[quote][p][bold]Martha Gunn[/bold] wrote: Can anyone confirm if they have ever got an acknowlegment or response of any kind from Cllr. Duncan? Many of the Green councillors elected last time came out blinking into the sunshine of their unexpected victories and have been bewildered ever since. They had, and still have, not a clue and should never have been given a place in public life. Let's make sure it doesn't happen again and that the tragedy that has infested our city is never repeated.[/p][/quote]It's like the BNP councillors in Dagenham. They hadn't a clue what they were doing. They even once voted against their own proposal, lol. notslimjim
  • Score: 11

12:21pm Thu 21 Aug 14

NickBrt says...

Martha

Ben Duncan will never respond to a member of the public!! He's too busy tweeting drivel!
Martha Ben Duncan will never respond to a member of the public!! He's too busy tweeting drivel! NickBrt
  • Score: 16

12:53pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Fight_Back says...

NickBrt wrote:
Martha

Ben Duncan will never respond to a member of the public!! He's too busy tweeting drivel!
Or popping to Halfords to check they don't sell pick bikes.
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: Martha Ben Duncan will never respond to a member of the public!! He's too busy tweeting drivel![/p][/quote]Or popping to Halfords to check they don't sell pick bikes. Fight_Back
  • Score: 4

1:07pm Thu 21 Aug 14

sussexfoz says...

Maxwell's Ghost wrote:
Work life balance. Well the Greens didn't give a toss about that when its band of time-rich, retired old boys like Randall and Davey introduced transport policies only the wealthy, time rich or student voters can endure or afford.
Then we have the Kitkats claiming more than £50,000 between them in allowances in the last financial year telling us we should cycle to work and drop our kids off at two different schools in the city before we start a day's work. Do they do this? Do they know that two in three children grow up in single parent homes where mum does everything including work full time. What about our work life balance? Who pays for your child care?
And they voted for us to pay for their i360 vanity project and are now walking away.
And why did they fail to improve the basic core service of recycling, why is it worse now than in the history of the city?
For those of you voting at next year's election, whatever your politics make sure you do some research on the candidates you intend to vote for before putting an X in the box because you are actually putting £ in the box.
So tell me,what party do you support?i can't remember any of them being any good it took more than the Greens to vote in funding the i360 tower of crap..No ones gonna put down parking charges or put 20mph up,Shurely its up to me and you to sort out our recycling lets face it a lot of people in Brighton can't be Arsed to do it,Do research who your gonna vote for but in the end nothing changes in Narnia
[quote][p][bold]Maxwell's Ghost[/bold] wrote: Work life balance. Well the Greens didn't give a toss about that when its band of time-rich, retired old boys like Randall and Davey introduced transport policies only the wealthy, time rich or student voters can endure or afford. Then we have the Kitkats claiming more than £50,000 between them in allowances in the last financial year telling us we should cycle to work and drop our kids off at two different schools in the city before we start a day's work. Do they do this? Do they know that two in three children grow up in single parent homes where mum does everything including work full time. What about our work life balance? Who pays for your child care? And they voted for us to pay for their i360 vanity project and are now walking away. And why did they fail to improve the basic core service of recycling, why is it worse now than in the history of the city? For those of you voting at next year's election, whatever your politics make sure you do some research on the candidates you intend to vote for before putting an X in the box because you are actually putting £ in the box.[/p][/quote]So tell me,what party do you support?i can't remember any of them being any good it took more than the Greens to vote in funding the i360 tower of crap..No ones gonna put down parking charges or put 20mph up,Shurely its up to me and you to sort out our recycling lets face it a lot of people in Brighton can't be Arsed to do it,Do research who your gonna vote for but in the end nothing changes in Narnia sussexfoz
  • Score: -7

2:00pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Bill in Hanover says...

I didn't think the Greens had the sense to jump before they were unceremoniously pushed out of office.
I didn't think the Greens had the sense to jump before they were unceremoniously pushed out of office. Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 5

2:56pm Thu 21 Aug 14

ThinkBrighton says...

theargusissoinformat
ive
wrote:
NickBrt wrote:
I would empathise with them if just one of them had one ounce (gram) of consideration for the people they are supposed to represent. none of them do, Their only consideration is for their inflated egos which they pump up at every possible opportunity.
Only a few of them have inflated egos. I doubt if you can name all of the Green councillors off the top of your head - they are all quite different.
Most people would have beter things to do than try naming a bunch of idiots. Even if they do practise there idiocy in different ways.
If you can name all the green councillors off the top of your head, I pity you.
[quote][p][bold]theargusissoinformat ive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: I would empathise with them if just one of them had one ounce (gram) of consideration for the people they are supposed to represent. none of them do, Their only consideration is for their inflated egos which they pump up at every possible opportunity.[/p][/quote]Only a few of them have inflated egos. I doubt if you can name all of the Green councillors off the top of your head - they are all quite different.[/p][/quote]Most people would have beter things to do than try naming a bunch of idiots. Even if they do practise there idiocy in different ways. If you can name all the green councillors off the top of your head, I pity you. ThinkBrighton
  • Score: 1

4:46pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Just trying to earn a crust says...

The green councillors in Preston park always seem to be conspicuous by their absence. Non of them even bothered to turn up for the council tax vote. So I can't see council work come very high on their work/home life agendas
The green councillors in Preston park always seem to be conspicuous by their absence. Non of them even bothered to turn up for the council tax vote. So I can't see council work come very high on their work/home life agendas Just trying to earn a crust
  • Score: 9

5:08pm Thu 21 Aug 14

peterthomas says...

Spare us the drivel Argus - these jokers are legging it - with fat payoffs no doubt - shining examples of how total incompetence can thrive in this deluded craphole fo a country!!
Spare us the drivel Argus - these jokers are legging it - with fat payoffs no doubt - shining examples of how total incompetence can thrive in this deluded craphole fo a country!! peterthomas
  • Score: 4

5:32pm Thu 21 Aug 14

HJarrs says...

peterthomas wrote:
Spare us the drivel Argus - these jokers are legging it - with fat payoffs no doubt - shining examples of how total incompetence can thrive in this deluded craphole fo a country!!
I believe the "payoff" for councillors is £0.00. Not much fat on that payoff!
[quote][p][bold]peterthomas[/bold] wrote: Spare us the drivel Argus - these jokers are legging it - with fat payoffs no doubt - shining examples of how total incompetence can thrive in this deluded craphole fo a country!![/p][/quote]I believe the "payoff" for councillors is £0.00. Not much fat on that payoff! HJarrs
  • Score: -7

5:36pm Thu 21 Aug 14

HJarrs says...

It is amazing that anyone would spend their time on top of a job to represent the miseries that tirelessly post their bile on the Argus site.

The moanerati seem to want a council composed purely of the retired and the idle wealthy, rather than being more representative of the population.
It is amazing that anyone would spend their time on top of a job to represent the miseries that tirelessly post their bile on the Argus site. The moanerati seem to want a council composed purely of the retired and the idle wealthy, rather than being more representative of the population. HJarrs
  • Score: -13

9:13pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Valerie Paynter says...

JHunty wrote:
Actually I dont have an issue with councillors claiming expenses. Though in the interests of transparency I would prefer that they were simply paid a wage.
It does take a lot of dedication to attend all the meetings that are called for councillors.
Personally I thought Kitkat was the best of a pretty ropey lot with Ben Duncan the worst. Kitkat had a lot of responsibility, more than St Lucas. whilst Duncan just wanted to snipe from the side lines whilst dreaming of putting Brighton in the front line of the fight to overthrow the government.
One of the many reasons Russell Brand was an idiot for calling on people not to engage in the democratic system and not to vote, is not just that the greek root of the word idiot is in part derived from their concept of a person too stupid to vote, but by not voting you open the door for people you disagree with to win elections almost uncontested. Its always the lunatic fringe that seem to have the energy to get out and vote so by not doing so you allow them to gain power. What right do people have to complain when the result isnt as they would wish it to be when they cant be arsed to participate in the first place.
Jason makes himself more available than any other politician I think I could name. On twitter, by email. He is accessible. The Greens put in the hours whether you like the result or not. It is WHERE they put in the hours that has been their undoing. Too much internal "debate" and discussion. And done over too often by the officers instead of initiating and getting core Green showpiece tasks done to a T.

Recycling should have been number one. Conspicuous tree planting number two. Repairs is a core green value, but not a core Green Party value. That is number three. Espeially the seafront - done by any mans including by Pay Back teams and other volunteers. Just pay for the materials and get the railings painted at least.
[quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: Actually I dont have an issue with councillors claiming expenses. Though in the interests of transparency I would prefer that they were simply paid a wage. It does take a lot of dedication to attend all the meetings that are called for councillors. Personally I thought Kitkat was the best of a pretty ropey lot with Ben Duncan the worst. Kitkat had a lot of responsibility, more than St Lucas. whilst Duncan just wanted to snipe from the side lines whilst dreaming of putting Brighton in the front line of the fight to overthrow the government. One of the many reasons Russell Brand was an idiot for calling on people not to engage in the democratic system and not to vote, is not just that the greek root of the word idiot is in part derived from their concept of a person too stupid to vote, but by not voting you open the door for people you disagree with to win elections almost uncontested. Its always the lunatic fringe that seem to have the energy to get out and vote so by not doing so you allow them to gain power. What right do people have to complain when the result isnt as they would wish it to be when they cant be arsed to participate in the first place.[/p][/quote]Jason makes himself more available than any other politician I think I could name. On twitter, by email. He is accessible. The Greens put in the hours whether you like the result or not. It is WHERE they put in the hours that has been their undoing. Too much internal "debate" and discussion. And done over too often by the officers instead of initiating and getting core Green showpiece tasks done to a T. Recycling should have been number one. Conspicuous tree planting number two. Repairs is a core green value, but not a core Green Party value. That is number three. Espeially the seafront - done by any mans including by Pay Back teams and other volunteers. Just pay for the materials and get the railings painted at least. Valerie Paynter
  • Score: -2

10:22pm Thu 21 Aug 14

NickBrt says...

I agree with you HJarrs about the bile posted on here. Perhaps you would desist.
I agree with you HJarrs about the bile posted on here. Perhaps you would desist. NickBrt
  • Score: 5

10:33pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Idontbelieveit1948 says...

HJarrs wrote:
It is amazing that anyone would spend their time on top of a job to represent the miseries that tirelessly post their bile on the Argus site.

The moanerati seem to want a council composed purely of the retired and the idle wealthy, rather than being more representative of the population.
Well Jarrs, as ever you miss the point thanks to your green glasses.

As many ceaselessly have to remind you the green slime have, time and again, proven themselves to be an incompetent rabble who cannot even agree amongst themselves.

The fact that people disagree with them does not make them moanerati - a rather pretentious word invented by your ilk, i.e. people who have a rather high opinion of their own superiority e.g. our green slime councillors, MP and H Jarrs - it simply underlines their common sense in not believing or buying all the green smoke and mirrors.

Not quite sure what leads you to claim people want a council led by the retired and the idle wealthy although its odds on, in my view, this would be a vast improvement on our green slime.

I will remind you yet again, in case it isn't totally obvious to you behind your green glasses and green ear mufflers, what people want is a competent council which serves its residents and manages its core services properly e.g. emptying the bins, cleaning the streets, making our city something to be proud of rather than resembling a 3rd world shanty town.

It really is quite simple but you would never understand, hidden behind those green glasses and ear mufflers
[quote][p][bold]HJarrs[/bold] wrote: It is amazing that anyone would spend their time on top of a job to represent the miseries that tirelessly post their bile on the Argus site. The moanerati seem to want a council composed purely of the retired and the idle wealthy, rather than being more representative of the population.[/p][/quote]Well Jarrs, as ever you miss the point thanks to your green glasses. As many ceaselessly have to remind you the green slime have, time and again, proven themselves to be an incompetent rabble who cannot even agree amongst themselves. The fact that people disagree with them does not make them moanerati - a rather pretentious word invented by your ilk, i.e. people who have a rather high opinion of their own superiority e.g. our green slime councillors, MP and H Jarrs - it simply underlines their common sense in not believing or buying all the green smoke and mirrors. Not quite sure what leads you to claim people want a council led by the retired and the idle wealthy although its odds on, in my view, this would be a vast improvement on our green slime. I will remind you yet again, in case it isn't totally obvious to you behind your green glasses and green ear mufflers, what people want is a competent council which serves its residents and manages its core services properly e.g. emptying the bins, cleaning the streets, making our city something to be proud of rather than resembling a 3rd world shanty town. It really is quite simple but you would never understand, hidden behind those green glasses and ear mufflers Idontbelieveit1948
  • Score: 7

11:48pm Thu 21 Aug 14

NickBrt says...

Well done I don't believe is you have hjarrs done to a t! I am not even sure if hjarrs is human, probably a robot programmed by Caroline and Jason!
Well done I don't believe is you have hjarrs done to a t! I am not even sure if hjarrs is human, probably a robot programmed by Caroline and Jason! NickBrt
  • Score: 3

12:34am Fri 22 Aug 14

notslimjim says...

Who's the hottie in the picture?

She can't be his wife, because he bats for the other side.
Who's the hottie in the picture? She can't be his wife, because he bats for the other side. notslimjim
  • Score: 0

5:58pm Fri 22 Aug 14

HJarrs says...

NickBrt wrote:
Well done I don't believe is you have hjarrs done to a t! I am not even sure if hjarrs is human, probably a robot programmed by Caroline and Jason!
Nick (Labour) Brt are you programmed by Warren Morgan?

You usual irrelevant contribution.
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: Well done I don't believe is you have hjarrs done to a t! I am not even sure if hjarrs is human, probably a robot programmed by Caroline and Jason![/p][/quote]Nick (Labour) Brt are you programmed by Warren Morgan? You usual irrelevant contribution. HJarrs
  • Score: -2
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