Brighton and Hove City Council blocks Israel boycott motion

Councillor Ben Duncan

Councillor Ben Duncan

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Council officials have blocked a motion calling for the authority to consider boycotting Israeli goods and services.

Independent councillor Ben Duncan said he was told by Brighton and Hove City Council officials that his motion would not be conducive to good community relations, would have considerable “resource implications”, and was a matter of national, not local, policy.

Coun Duncan slammed the decision as “undemocratic,” while senior Conservatives on the council have welcomed the move to deem the motion out of order.

Conservative group leader, Geoffrey Theobald was “very pleased” the motion had been thrown out and said he “certainly would not have voted for it”.

He said: “Coun Duncan’s total lack of sensitivity never ceases to amaze me.

“He would do well to remember that he was elected to serve all the residents in his ward and not to create divisions among them.”

Conservative Graham Cox, Westbourne councillor and prospective parliamentary candidate for Hove, said: “The council quite rightly has a duty to foster good community relations.

“It should not be involving itself in such controversial and inflammatory matters.”

Coun Duncan launched the motion at the height of the latest fighting between Israel and Gaza, in which 2,104 Palestinians and 69 Israelis died.

He said he would continue to try and reword the motion to have some sort of debate on the situation and added: “All we are asking for here is a debate.

“There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.”

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12:05pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Martha Gunn says...

Pure Greenspeak deception.

'All we are asking for is a debate' says the Vegan.
But this is a debate about a motion calling for a boycott.

This is how Duncan, La Lucas and the rest of the comedy clowns try to befuddle us all.

Show them the way out of town in 2015.
Send the carpetbaggers packing.

And where are the details (promised on August 22) which are suppoosed to explain the election expenses of La Lucas? Still no sign of them.
Pure Greenspeak deception. 'All we are asking for is a debate' says the Vegan. But this is a debate about a motion calling for a boycott. This is how Duncan, La Lucas and the rest of the comedy clowns try to befuddle us all. Show them the way out of town in 2015. Send the carpetbaggers packing. And where are the details (promised on August 22) which are suppoosed to explain the election expenses of La Lucas? Still no sign of them. Martha Gunn
  • Score: 72

12:07pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Martha Gunn says...

I suppoose I meant suppose!
I suppoose I meant suppose! Martha Gunn
  • Score: 15

12:11pm Thu 4 Sep 14

hursthill says...

Brighton Council should also block Ben Duncan's cheesy grin.

This was the man who called British soldiers "hired Killers".

Congratulations to the Council for gicking Duncan into touch. Perhaps he could now demand a debate about why Hamas puts paperbags over it's political opponents heads, then publicly executes them.
Brighton Council should also block Ben Duncan's cheesy grin. This was the man who called British soldiers "hired Killers". Congratulations to the Council for gicking Duncan into touch. Perhaps he could now demand a debate about why Hamas puts paperbags over it's political opponents heads, then publicly executes them. hursthill
  • Score: 54

12:36pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Bugzy84 says...

He should remember his place as a local ward Councillor for B&H, not an MP in the house of commons.
He should remember his place as a local ward Councillor for B&H, not an MP in the house of commons. Bugzy84
  • Score: 37

12:52pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Fight_Back says...

Council debating time should be restricted to local matters only - maybe a debate on how to improve recycling rates would be a good start ?

As for Councillor Duncan he is NOT an independent councillor. He has and uses the resources of the Green Party, he works for the Green Party, he votes with the Green Party and he has the support of other Green councillors. The idea that he was thrown out of the party ( or even suspended ) is a farce, a smokescreen, a lie. Watch how he suddenly is listed as a Green on next Mays ballot papers. He is a lying untrustworthy little snake as are the local Green Party.
Council debating time should be restricted to local matters only - maybe a debate on how to improve recycling rates would be a good start ? As for Councillor Duncan he is NOT an independent councillor. He has and uses the resources of the Green Party, he works for the Green Party, he votes with the Green Party and he has the support of other Green councillors. The idea that he was thrown out of the party ( or even suspended ) is a farce, a smokescreen, a lie. Watch how he suddenly is listed as a Green on next Mays ballot papers. He is a lying untrustworthy little snake as are the local Green Party. Fight_Back
  • Score: 48

12:54pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Quiterie says...

“There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.”

If that's true I think we should definitely have a mass debate.
“There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.” If that's true I think we should definitely have a mass debate. Quiterie
  • Score: 2

12:59pm Thu 4 Sep 14

JHunty says...

hursthill wrote:
Brighton Council should also block Ben Duncan's cheesy grin.

This was the man who called British soldiers "hired Killers".

Congratulations to the Council for gicking Duncan into touch. Perhaps he could now demand a debate about why Hamas puts paperbags over it's political opponents heads, then publicly executes them.
Yeah then we could demand a debate over why the most moral army in the world shoots dead unarmed 13 year old girls and the soldier responsible boasts that they would shoot dead 3 year old.

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Iman_Darwee
sh_Al_Hams

The most moral army in the world has a far longer track record of killing unarmed civilians than Hamas has so if you are trying to claim the moral high ground youre not going to win that competition by backing the IDF. Of course what you are really trying to do is to falsely conflate legitimate criticism of Israel with support for Hamas, well that doesnt work either. We see through that and your tactics stem from your inability to answer the question of why Israel should be allowed to continue to inflict such a great injustice on the Palestinians with the rest of the world doing nothing.

Most people realise that Israel does not want peace because that would mean they no longer had a pretext for stealing Palestinian land and lo and behold what did Israel do recently? They stole another whole chunk of Palestinian land. More and more people see through Israels actions and understand the root cause of the issue is Israel stealing land from the Palestinians and no amount of whining from the pro Israelis can hide that fact.
[quote][p][bold]hursthill[/bold] wrote: Brighton Council should also block Ben Duncan's cheesy grin. This was the man who called British soldiers "hired Killers". Congratulations to the Council for gicking Duncan into touch. Perhaps he could now demand a debate about why Hamas puts paperbags over it's political opponents heads, then publicly executes them.[/p][/quote]Yeah then we could demand a debate over why the most moral army in the world shoots dead unarmed 13 year old girls and the soldier responsible boasts that they would shoot dead 3 year old. http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Iman_Darwee sh_Al_Hams The most moral army in the world has a far longer track record of killing unarmed civilians than Hamas has so if you are trying to claim the moral high ground youre not going to win that competition by backing the IDF. Of course what you are really trying to do is to falsely conflate legitimate criticism of Israel with support for Hamas, well that doesnt work either. We see through that and your tactics stem from your inability to answer the question of why Israel should be allowed to continue to inflict such a great injustice on the Palestinians with the rest of the world doing nothing. Most people realise that Israel does not want peace because that would mean they no longer had a pretext for stealing Palestinian land and lo and behold what did Israel do recently? They stole another whole chunk of Palestinian land. More and more people see through Israels actions and understand the root cause of the issue is Israel stealing land from the Palestinians and no amount of whining from the pro Israelis can hide that fact. JHunty
  • Score: -45

1:00pm Thu 4 Sep 14

theargusissoinformative says...

Quiterie wrote:
“There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.”

If that's true I think we should definitely have a mass debate.
Er, mass debate? I admire your sense of humour.
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: “There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.” If that's true I think we should definitely have a mass debate.[/p][/quote]Er, mass debate? I admire your sense of humour. theargusissoinformative
  • Score: -15

1:06pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Bugzy84 says...

Quiterie wrote:
“There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.”

If that's true I think we should definitely have a mass debate.
I think a lot of ppl will agree with you that he is a big mass debater.
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: “There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.” If that's true I think we should definitely have a mass debate.[/p][/quote]I think a lot of ppl will agree with you that he is a big mass debater. Bugzy84
  • Score: 28

1:09pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Reporter1 says...

Why is Duncan still a Councillor if he had any morals he would have stood down and allowed the people of B&H decide if he was still wanted after being kicked out of the Green Party. That would have been democratic.
What a Tw....
Why is Duncan still a Councillor if he had any morals he would have stood down and allowed the people of B&H decide if he was still wanted after being kicked out of the Green Party. That would have been democratic. What a Tw.... Reporter1
  • Score: 37

2:29pm Thu 4 Sep 14

tomp1994 says...

Kudos!

Lets not have the far-left, "progressives," & Muslims getting their way!
Kudos! Lets not have the far-left, "progressives," & Muslims getting their way! tomp1994
  • Score: 6

2:29pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Skidrow says...

Bugzy84 wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
“There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.”

If that's true I think we should definitely have a mass debate.
I think a lot of ppl will agree with you that he is a big mass debater.
And if he closed one eye he'd be a winking mass debater...
[quote][p][bold]Bugzy84[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: “There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.” If that's true I think we should definitely have a mass debate.[/p][/quote]I think a lot of ppl will agree with you that he is a big mass debater.[/p][/quote]And if he closed one eye he'd be a winking mass debater... Skidrow
  • Score: 7

2:43pm Thu 4 Sep 14

BlackRocker says...

What a smug-looking, self-satisfied, self-serving pillock this excuse for a man is.
What a smug-looking, self-satisfied, self-serving pillock this excuse for a man is. BlackRocker
  • Score: 39

2:59pm Thu 4 Sep 14

homewood says...

Sensible outcome. Lets focus on local matters that effect our city not very complex international ones. Incidently there are no winners in the Israel Palestinian issue only losers.

Feel sorry for the Palestinians they have in effect been highjacked.by Hamas and gone down the terrorist route.

also feel sorry for the Israelis as they are in a no win situation surrounded by Muslim countries that would rather they don't exist.

The ex councillor that put forward the motion must be ignorant beyond belief.
Sensible outcome. Lets focus on local matters that effect our city not very complex international ones. Incidently there are no winners in the Israel Palestinian issue only losers. Feel sorry for the Palestinians they have in effect been highjacked.by Hamas and gone down the terrorist route. also feel sorry for the Israelis as they are in a no win situation surrounded by Muslim countries that would rather they don't exist. The ex councillor that put forward the motion must be ignorant beyond belief. homewood
  • Score: 28

3:28pm Thu 4 Sep 14

yatman says...

theargusissoinformat
ive
wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
“There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.”

If that's true I think we should definitely have a mass debate.
Er, mass debate? I admire your sense of humour.
Because Duncan is a mass debater:)
[quote][p][bold]theargusissoinformat ive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: “There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.” If that's true I think we should definitely have a mass debate.[/p][/quote]Er, mass debate? I admire your sense of humour.[/p][/quote]Because Duncan is a mass debater:) yatman
  • Score: 1

3:40pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Bugzy84 says...

Why just Israel & Palestine Cllr Duncan, what about China & Tibet, Russia & Georgia/Crimea/Ukrai
ne, Morocco & Western Sahara or Turkey & Northern Cyprus, why are you not calling for the city to boycott these as well?
Why just Israel & Palestine Cllr Duncan, what about China & Tibet, Russia & Georgia/Crimea/Ukrai ne, Morocco & Western Sahara or Turkey & Northern Cyprus, why are you not calling for the city to boycott these as well? Bugzy84
  • Score: 17

3:43pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Martha Gunn says...

Funny how things turn out!

I can thing of no finer epitaph for the Vegan Duncan than he was a proponent and practitioner of mass debating. How well he has served the cause.

(Still no explanation from the Green Party about the Lucas expenses.
Will be two weeks tomorrow since they promised one.)
Funny how things turn out! I can thing of no finer epitaph for the Vegan Duncan than he was a proponent and practitioner of mass debating. How well he has served the cause. (Still no explanation from the Green Party about the Lucas expenses. Will be two weeks tomorrow since they promised one.) Martha Gunn
  • Score: 7

4:01pm Thu 4 Sep 14

calro75 says...

Good job his boycott was thrown out, shame they didn't boycott and throw him out permanently.
Good job his boycott was thrown out, shame they didn't boycott and throw him out permanently. calro75
  • Score: 13

4:03pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Handy-ish Andy says...

I wonder how many of those who blocked the motion did it out of a fondness for Israel or for their dislike of Duncan?

If people in B&H want to boycott Israeli goods and services, they are surely free to do so without making a song-and-dance about it, but they should also remember how many Palestinians rely upon Israeli companies for their income.
I wonder how many of those who blocked the motion did it out of a fondness for Israel or for their dislike of Duncan? If people in B&H want to boycott Israeli goods and services, they are surely free to do so without making a song-and-dance about it, but they should also remember how many Palestinians rely upon Israeli companies for their income. Handy-ish Andy
  • Score: 3

4:13pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Valerie Paynter says...

In the absence of Government-led sanctions, it is improper for a local authority to usurp the role and give an topinion that a boycott should be in place. Notices of Motion are just opinions. They take the temperature of a situation and give a view. No more. This one would have had no power to implement a boycott. And if the Greens want it to be a Green Party Administration Policy they want to try to implement then they are on a hiding to nothing after this legal judgment from the council.

It is for consumers to make choices in the shops according to conscience and God knows Israel has gone rogue and is asking for trouble and loss of credibility and support - as much from world Jewry as any other people.
In the absence of Government-led sanctions, it is improper for a local authority to usurp the role and give an topinion that a boycott should be in place. Notices of Motion are just opinions. They take the temperature of a situation and give a view. No more. This one would have had no power to implement a boycott. And if the Greens want it to be a Green Party Administration Policy they want to try to implement then they are on a hiding to nothing after this legal judgment from the council. It is for consumers to make choices in the shops according to conscience and God knows Israel has gone rogue and is asking for trouble and loss of credibility and support - as much from world Jewry as any other people. Valerie Paynter
  • Score: 2

4:28pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Handy-ish Andy says...

JHunty wrote:
hursthill wrote:
Brighton Council should also block Ben Duncan's cheesy grin.

This was the man who called British soldiers "hired Killers".

Congratulations to the Council for gicking Duncan into touch. Perhaps he could now demand a debate about why Hamas puts paperbags over it's political opponents heads, then publicly executes them.
Yeah then we could demand a debate over why the most moral army in the world shoots dead unarmed 13 year old girls and the soldier responsible boasts that they would shoot dead 3 year old.

http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/Iman_Darwee

sh_Al_Hams

The most moral army in the world has a far longer track record of killing unarmed civilians than Hamas has so if you are trying to claim the moral high ground youre not going to win that competition by backing the IDF. Of course what you are really trying to do is to falsely conflate legitimate criticism of Israel with support for Hamas, well that doesnt work either. We see through that and your tactics stem from your inability to answer the question of why Israel should be allowed to continue to inflict such a great injustice on the Palestinians with the rest of the world doing nothing.

Most people realise that Israel does not want peace because that would mean they no longer had a pretext for stealing Palestinian land and lo and behold what did Israel do recently? They stole another whole chunk of Palestinian land. More and more people see through Israels actions and understand the root cause of the issue is Israel stealing land from the Palestinians and no amount of whining from the pro Israelis can hide that fact.
Which land?

Israel gave up its claim to Gaza a decade ago, and the Palestinians have never actually controlled the West Bank. It was formerly part of Jordan, a state that renounced its claim to the area last century, and is land which Israelis are living on as well as Palestinians. It isn't being 'taken' from anyone.
[quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hursthill[/bold] wrote: Brighton Council should also block Ben Duncan's cheesy grin. This was the man who called British soldiers "hired Killers". Congratulations to the Council for gicking Duncan into touch. Perhaps he could now demand a debate about why Hamas puts paperbags over it's political opponents heads, then publicly executes them.[/p][/quote]Yeah then we could demand a debate over why the most moral army in the world shoots dead unarmed 13 year old girls and the soldier responsible boasts that they would shoot dead 3 year old. http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Iman_Darwee sh_Al_Hams The most moral army in the world has a far longer track record of killing unarmed civilians than Hamas has so if you are trying to claim the moral high ground youre not going to win that competition by backing the IDF. Of course what you are really trying to do is to falsely conflate legitimate criticism of Israel with support for Hamas, well that doesnt work either. We see through that and your tactics stem from your inability to answer the question of why Israel should be allowed to continue to inflict such a great injustice on the Palestinians with the rest of the world doing nothing. Most people realise that Israel does not want peace because that would mean they no longer had a pretext for stealing Palestinian land and lo and behold what did Israel do recently? They stole another whole chunk of Palestinian land. More and more people see through Israels actions and understand the root cause of the issue is Israel stealing land from the Palestinians and no amount of whining from the pro Israelis can hide that fact.[/p][/quote]Which land? Israel gave up its claim to Gaza a decade ago, and the Palestinians have never actually controlled the West Bank. It was formerly part of Jordan, a state that renounced its claim to the area last century, and is land which Israelis are living on as well as Palestinians. It isn't being 'taken' from anyone. Handy-ish Andy
  • Score: -8

5:11pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Zeta Function says...

Households are paying council taxes for services.

There needs to be a clear separation between civil society and the 'local authority'.

Among the responsibilities councils have are: dog control, food safety, health and safety. Enforcing byelaws. The provision of housing?
Households are paying council taxes for services. There needs to be a clear separation between civil society and the 'local authority'. Among the responsibilities councils have are: dog control, food safety, health and safety. Enforcing byelaws. The provision of housing? Zeta Function
  • Score: -3

5:42pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Quiterie says...

theargusissoinformat
ive
wrote:
Quiterie wrote:
“There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.”

If that's true I think we should definitely have a mass debate.
Er, mass debate? I admire your sense of humour.
Thanks mate. Unfortunately no one else does.

Although I see someone else has nicked my joke and got a couple of dozen 'thumbs up' for it!

C'est La Vie .....

....... as Bewitched once sang..........
....... and Robbie Nevil......
[quote][p][bold]theargusissoinformat ive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: “There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.” If that's true I think we should definitely have a mass debate.[/p][/quote]Er, mass debate? I admire your sense of humour.[/p][/quote]Thanks mate. Unfortunately no one else does. Although I see someone else has nicked my joke and got a couple of dozen 'thumbs up' for it! C'est La Vie ..... ....... as Bewitched once sang.......... ....... and Robbie Nevil...... Quiterie
  • Score: 0

6:50pm Thu 4 Sep 14

L bailey says...

Why hadn't this clown been long gone.
Why hadn't this clown been long gone. L bailey
  • Score: 7

7:01pm Thu 4 Sep 14

vivelavive says...

Handy-ish Andy wrote:
JHunty wrote:
hursthill wrote:
Brighton Council should also block Ben Duncan's cheesy grin.

This was the man who called British soldiers "hired Killers".

Congratulations to the Council for gicking Duncan into touch. Perhaps he could now demand a debate about why Hamas puts paperbags over it's political opponents heads, then publicly executes them.
Yeah then we could demand a debate over why the most moral army in the world shoots dead unarmed 13 year old girls and the soldier responsible boasts that they would shoot dead 3 year old.

http://en.wikipedia.


org/wiki/Iman_Darwee


sh_Al_Hams

The most moral army in the world has a far longer track record of killing unarmed civilians than Hamas has so if you are trying to claim the moral high ground youre not going to win that competition by backing the IDF. Of course what you are really trying to do is to falsely conflate legitimate criticism of Israel with support for Hamas, well that doesnt work either. We see through that and your tactics stem from your inability to answer the question of why Israel should be allowed to continue to inflict such a great injustice on the Palestinians with the rest of the world doing nothing.

Most people realise that Israel does not want peace because that would mean they no longer had a pretext for stealing Palestinian land and lo and behold what did Israel do recently? They stole another whole chunk of Palestinian land. More and more people see through Israels actions and understand the root cause of the issue is Israel stealing land from the Palestinians and no amount of whining from the pro Israelis can hide that fact.
Which land?

Israel gave up its claim to Gaza a decade ago, and the Palestinians have never actually controlled the West Bank. It was formerly part of Jordan, a state that renounced its claim to the area last century, and is land which Israelis are living on as well as Palestinians. It isn't being 'taken' from anyone.
The West Bank was designated as part of a state of Palestine in the same UN resolution that created Israel. In denying the Palestinians their right to the West Bank you are undermining Israel's legitimacy and right to exist!
[quote][p][bold]Handy-ish Andy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHunty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hursthill[/bold] wrote: Brighton Council should also block Ben Duncan's cheesy grin. This was the man who called British soldiers "hired Killers". Congratulations to the Council for gicking Duncan into touch. Perhaps he could now demand a debate about why Hamas puts paperbags over it's political opponents heads, then publicly executes them.[/p][/quote]Yeah then we could demand a debate over why the most moral army in the world shoots dead unarmed 13 year old girls and the soldier responsible boasts that they would shoot dead 3 year old. http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Iman_Darwee sh_Al_Hams The most moral army in the world has a far longer track record of killing unarmed civilians than Hamas has so if you are trying to claim the moral high ground youre not going to win that competition by backing the IDF. Of course what you are really trying to do is to falsely conflate legitimate criticism of Israel with support for Hamas, well that doesnt work either. We see through that and your tactics stem from your inability to answer the question of why Israel should be allowed to continue to inflict such a great injustice on the Palestinians with the rest of the world doing nothing. Most people realise that Israel does not want peace because that would mean they no longer had a pretext for stealing Palestinian land and lo and behold what did Israel do recently? They stole another whole chunk of Palestinian land. More and more people see through Israels actions and understand the root cause of the issue is Israel stealing land from the Palestinians and no amount of whining from the pro Israelis can hide that fact.[/p][/quote]Which land? Israel gave up its claim to Gaza a decade ago, and the Palestinians have never actually controlled the West Bank. It was formerly part of Jordan, a state that renounced its claim to the area last century, and is land which Israelis are living on as well as Palestinians. It isn't being 'taken' from anyone.[/p][/quote]The West Bank was designated as part of a state of Palestine in the same UN resolution that created Israel. In denying the Palestinians their right to the West Bank you are undermining Israel's legitimacy and right to exist! vivelavive
  • Score: 0

7:24pm Thu 4 Sep 14

hove bn3 says...

Ruth Buckley second this.
Ruth Buckley second this. hove bn3
  • Score: 1

8:18pm Thu 4 Sep 14

notaconspiracy says...

If I want to boycott something, then I will. If the council or the government tell me to boycott something, then I flippin' won't!
If I want to boycott something, then I will. If the council or the government tell me to boycott something, then I flippin' won't! notaconspiracy
  • Score: 1

9:05pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Bill in Hanover says...

Quiterie wrote:
“There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.”

If that's true I think we should definitely have a mass debate.
I disagree with Russia interfering in Ukraine, I disagree with Mugabe turning Zimbabwe into a wilderness I disagree with Zuma stealing millions from the people of South Africa and I disagree with the Ecuadoreans sheltering a criminal so can we have a mass debate on these countries too?
[quote][p][bold]Quiterie[/bold] wrote: “There are thousands of people in this city who do want this policy and the very least it deserves is a debate.” If that's true I think we should definitely have a mass debate.[/p][/quote]I disagree with Russia interfering in Ukraine, I disagree with Mugabe turning Zimbabwe into a wilderness I disagree with Zuma stealing millions from the people of South Africa and I disagree with the Ecuadoreans sheltering a criminal so can we have a mass debate on these countries too? Bill in Hanover
  • Score: 2

9:27pm Thu 4 Sep 14

getThisCoalitionOut says...

It's a shame that this has been voted against as supporting a terrorist organisation such as the Israelli government is not good.

The media in the UK has hidden a lot of what has really been going on in the latest genocide towards the people in Gaza.

To deliberately target hospitals, schools, ambulances is unforgiveable and everyone must boycott all Israelli goods and this government must stop their zionist tendencies in helping Israel and supporting this disgusting government.

What Israel has done and is still doing is not helping themselves at all. Many people are starting to hate jews - again and that is wrong on every level.

Many jews are good people but those that support the Israelli government and what it has done are not good. Those that are sending money to Israel are the same as the terrorists in government there and this must be stopped.
It's a shame that this has been voted against as supporting a terrorist organisation such as the Israelli government is not good. The media in the UK has hidden a lot of what has really been going on in the latest genocide towards the people in Gaza. To deliberately target hospitals, schools, ambulances is unforgiveable and everyone must boycott all Israelli goods and this government must stop their zionist tendencies in helping Israel and supporting this disgusting government. What Israel has done and is still doing is not helping themselves at all. Many people are starting to hate jews - again and that is wrong on every level. Many jews are good people but those that support the Israelli government and what it has done are not good. Those that are sending money to Israel are the same as the terrorists in government there and this must be stopped. getThisCoalitionOut
  • Score: -6

11:10pm Thu 4 Sep 14

peebee9 says...

If individuals feel so strongly about this, then they can do their own 'boycotting'. Why does it need a debate.
If individuals feel so strongly about this, then they can do their own 'boycotting'. Why does it need a debate. peebee9
  • Score: 0

11:25pm Thu 4 Sep 14

jackthekipper says...

thought wed got rid of this pratt,how come hes back on the scene.
geezers a liability
thought wed got rid of this pratt,how come hes back on the scene. geezers a liability jackthekipper
  • Score: -1

9:12am Fri 5 Sep 14

hursthill says...

Congratulations to all the Green, Labour & Conservative Councillors who stood up the prejudiced & malicious aims of Ben Duncan .

Also credit is due to the Greens for kicking him out of their party for calling British soldiers hired killers, & his obscene jokes about rape & drugs.

Hopefully the Councillors can similarly unite in fostering good community relations & resolving local issues for the benifit of all in Brighton & Hove.
Congratulations to all the Green, Labour & Conservative Councillors who stood up the prejudiced & malicious aims of Ben Duncan . Also credit is due to the Greens for kicking him out of their party for calling British soldiers hired killers, & his obscene jokes about rape & drugs. Hopefully the Councillors can similarly unite in fostering good community relations & resolving local issues for the benifit of all in Brighton & Hove. hursthill
  • Score: 1

10:43am Fri 5 Sep 14

thevoiceoftruth says...

Does Ben Duncan ever speak about anything related to Brighton? I am no fan of Israel, but he is supposed to be a local councillor. His focus seems to be on national and international politics, rather than sorting out local issues. It seems a bit "undemocratic" to use his words, as he was elected by the public to represent his constituents. He does not care about this area, does not live here and should resign because he is incapable of carrying out the job he is being paid to do.
Does Ben Duncan ever speak about anything related to Brighton? I am no fan of Israel, but he is supposed to be a local councillor. His focus seems to be on national and international politics, rather than sorting out local issues. It seems a bit "undemocratic" to use his words, as he was elected by the public to represent his constituents. He does not care about this area, does not live here and should resign because he is incapable of carrying out the job he is being paid to do. thevoiceoftruth
  • Score: 0

3:13pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Handy-ish Andy says...

getThisCoalitionOut wrote:
It's a shame that this has been voted against as supporting a terrorist organisation such as the Israelli government is not good.

The media in the UK has hidden a lot of what has really been going on in the latest genocide towards the people in Gaza.

To deliberately target hospitals, schools, ambulances is unforgiveable and everyone must boycott all Israelli goods and this government must stop their zionist tendencies in helping Israel and supporting this disgusting government.

What Israel has done and is still doing is not helping themselves at all. Many people are starting to hate jews - again and that is wrong on every level.

Many jews are good people but those that support the Israelli government and what it has done are not good. Those that are sending money to Israel are the same as the terrorists in government there and this must be stopped.
"The media in the UK has hidden a lot of what has really been going on in the latest genocide towards the people in Gaza. "

The media in the UK did report on the 18 Palestinians murdered in public by Hamas, and I'm not surprised that so many pro-Gaza posters on here ignored that barbaric act.
[quote][p][bold]getThisCoalitionOut[/bold] wrote: It's a shame that this has been voted against as supporting a terrorist organisation such as the Israelli government is not good. The media in the UK has hidden a lot of what has really been going on in the latest genocide towards the people in Gaza. To deliberately target hospitals, schools, ambulances is unforgiveable and everyone must boycott all Israelli goods and this government must stop their zionist tendencies in helping Israel and supporting this disgusting government. What Israel has done and is still doing is not helping themselves at all. Many people are starting to hate jews - again and that is wrong on every level. Many jews are good people but those that support the Israelli government and what it has done are not good. Those that are sending money to Israel are the same as the terrorists in government there and this must be stopped.[/p][/quote]"The media in the UK has hidden a lot of what has really been going on in the latest genocide towards the people in Gaza. " The media in the UK did report on the 18 Palestinians murdered in public by Hamas, and I'm not surprised that so many pro-Gaza posters on here ignored that barbaric act. Handy-ish Andy
  • Score: 0

3:17pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Handy-ish Andy says...

"The West Bank was designated as part of a state of Palestine in the same UN resolution that created Israel. In denying the Palestinians their right to the West Bank you ar"e undermining Israel's legitimacy and right to exist!"

That is incorrect.

The West Bank was planned to be an Arab state, but in 1948 Jordan invaded and didn't leave until 1967 when Israel won control over it. The Palestinian National Authority has never controlled the West Bank.

The Palestinians have a perfect right to live on the West Bank, just as Israelis do. So can the Chinese.
"The West Bank was designated as part of a state of Palestine in the same UN resolution that created Israel. In denying the Palestinians their right to the West Bank you ar"e undermining Israel's legitimacy and right to exist!" That is incorrect. The West Bank was planned to be an Arab state, but in 1948 Jordan invaded and didn't leave until 1967 when Israel won control over it. The Palestinian National Authority has never controlled the West Bank. The Palestinians have a perfect right to live on the West Bank, just as Israelis do. So can the Chinese. Handy-ish Andy
  • Score: 1

5:47pm Fri 5 Sep 14

vivelavive says...

Handy-ish Andy wrote:
"The West Bank was designated as part of a state of Palestine in the same UN resolution that created Israel. In denying the Palestinians their right to the West Bank you ar"e undermining Israel's legitimacy and right to exist!"

That is incorrect.

The West Bank was planned to be an Arab state, but in 1948 Jordan invaded and didn't leave until 1967 when Israel won control over it. The Palestinian National Authority has never controlled the West Bank.

The Palestinians have a perfect right to live on the West Bank, just as Israelis do. So can the Chinese.
And there's the rub! Israel doesn't want peace. Israel wants the West Bank.
[quote][p][bold]Handy-ish Andy[/bold] wrote: "The West Bank was designated as part of a state of Palestine in the same UN resolution that created Israel. In denying the Palestinians their right to the West Bank you ar"e undermining Israel's legitimacy and right to exist!" That is incorrect. The West Bank was planned to be an Arab state, but in 1948 Jordan invaded and didn't leave until 1967 when Israel won control over it. The Palestinian National Authority has never controlled the West Bank. The Palestinians have a perfect right to live on the West Bank, just as Israelis do. So can the Chinese.[/p][/quote]And there's the rub! Israel doesn't want peace. Israel wants the West Bank. vivelavive
  • Score: 2

6:26pm Fri 5 Sep 14

hursthill says...

No vivathediva, your comment isn't the RUB. It's RUBish !

Israel does want peace, but the Palestinians want to steal & ethnically cleanse Israeli land.
No vivathediva, your comment isn't the RUB. It's RUBish ! Israel does want peace, but the Palestinians want to steal & ethnically cleanse Israeli land. hursthill
  • Score: -2

12:33am Sat 6 Sep 14

sanjay11 says...

This is a complete joke and another example of ignorant residents railroading their misguided views on the general public
This is a complete joke and another example of ignorant residents railroading their misguided views on the general public sanjay11
  • Score: 0

12:21pm Sat 6 Sep 14

vivelavive says...

hursthill wrote:
No vivathediva, your comment isn't the RUB. It's RUBish !

Israel does want peace, but the Palestinians want to steal & ethnically cleanse Israeli land.
I am astonished by the hostility in your comments. Your constant repetition of the Israeli state propaganda that sets out to de-humanise the Palestinians. Accusing them of wanting to ethnically cleanse the land. Look at the figures and the reality. The Palestinians are defenceless in the face of the Israeli military. It is Israel that is killing Palestinians in horrendous numbers. Defending the indefensible. You cannot bomb schools and hospitals. Period! But lie about 'human shields' and all of a sudden the baying mob forget all morality. "It's ok to kill these kids. In fact it wasn't even us that killed them". I tell you, within our lifetimes Israel will be recognised globally for what it truely is; a racist state similar to apartheid SA. And when that happens your children or grandchildren will be ashamed of you and the way you defended what the state of Israel is doing.
[quote][p][bold]hursthill[/bold] wrote: No vivathediva, your comment isn't the RUB. It's RUBish ! Israel does want peace, but the Palestinians want to steal & ethnically cleanse Israeli land.[/p][/quote]I am astonished by the hostility in your comments. Your constant repetition of the Israeli state propaganda that sets out to de-humanise the Palestinians. Accusing them of wanting to ethnically cleanse the land. Look at the figures and the reality. The Palestinians are defenceless in the face of the Israeli military. It is Israel that is killing Palestinians in horrendous numbers. Defending the indefensible. You cannot bomb schools and hospitals. Period! But lie about 'human shields' and all of a sudden the baying mob forget all morality. "It's ok to kill these kids. In fact it wasn't even us that killed them". I tell you, within our lifetimes Israel will be recognised globally for what it truely is; a racist state similar to apartheid SA. And when that happens your children or grandchildren will be ashamed of you and the way you defended what the state of Israel is doing. vivelavive
  • Score: 2

6:07pm Sat 6 Sep 14

hursthill says...

vivelavive wrote:
hursthill wrote:
No vivathediva, your comment isn't the RUB. It's RUBish !

Israel does want peace, but the Palestinians want to steal & ethnically cleanse Israeli land.
I am astonished by the hostility in your comments. Your constant repetition of the Israeli state propaganda that sets out to de-humanise the Palestinians. Accusing them of wanting to ethnically cleanse the land. Look at the figures and the reality. The Palestinians are defenceless in the face of the Israeli military. It is Israel that is killing Palestinians in horrendous numbers. Defending the indefensible. You cannot bomb schools and hospitals. Period! But lie about 'human shields' and all of a sudden the baying mob forget all morality. "It's ok to kill these kids. In fact it wasn't even us that killed them". I tell you, within our lifetimes Israel will be recognised globally for what it truely is; a racist state similar to apartheid SA. And when that happens your children or grandchildren will be ashamed of you and the way you defended what the state of Israel is doing.
vivathedeceiver - I am sickened by the lies in your comments :

To claim the Palestinians are defenceless is a lie !!

4,000 + rockets fired indiscriminately at Israeli kids & civilians in 21 days. This included sophisticated Iranian death missiles. Each rocket could kill 50 + civilians. You do the maths.

It is your friends Hamas who are the apartheid homophobic racist entity, - check out their constitution, - they are committed to destroying Israel & like the Nazis killing the Jewish community.

You should hang your head in shame & apologise to your ancestors.

Congratulations again to all the Green, Labour & Conservative councillors for blocking this fascist boycott.
[quote][p][bold]vivelavive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hursthill[/bold] wrote: No vivathediva, your comment isn't the RUB. It's RUBish ! Israel does want peace, but the Palestinians want to steal & ethnically cleanse Israeli land.[/p][/quote]I am astonished by the hostility in your comments. Your constant repetition of the Israeli state propaganda that sets out to de-humanise the Palestinians. Accusing them of wanting to ethnically cleanse the land. Look at the figures and the reality. The Palestinians are defenceless in the face of the Israeli military. It is Israel that is killing Palestinians in horrendous numbers. Defending the indefensible. You cannot bomb schools and hospitals. Period! But lie about 'human shields' and all of a sudden the baying mob forget all morality. "It's ok to kill these kids. In fact it wasn't even us that killed them". I tell you, within our lifetimes Israel will be recognised globally for what it truely is; a racist state similar to apartheid SA. And when that happens your children or grandchildren will be ashamed of you and the way you defended what the state of Israel is doing.[/p][/quote]vivathedeceiver - I am sickened by the lies in your comments : To claim the Palestinians are defenceless is a lie !! 4,000 + rockets fired indiscriminately at Israeli kids & civilians in 21 days. This included sophisticated Iranian death missiles. Each rocket could kill 50 + civilians. You do the maths. It is your friends Hamas who are the apartheid homophobic racist entity, - check out their constitution, - they are committed to destroying Israel & like the Nazis killing the Jewish community. You should hang your head in shame & apologise to your ancestors. Congratulations again to all the Green, Labour & Conservative councillors for blocking this fascist boycott. hursthill
  • Score: -2

6:51pm Sat 6 Sep 14

vivelavive says...

hursthill wrote:
vivelavive wrote:
hursthill wrote:
No vivathediva, your comment isn't the RUB. It's RUBish !

Israel does want peace, but the Palestinians want to steal & ethnically cleanse Israeli land.
I am astonished by the hostility in your comments. Your constant repetition of the Israeli state propaganda that sets out to de-humanise the Palestinians. Accusing them of wanting to ethnically cleanse the land. Look at the figures and the reality. The Palestinians are defenceless in the face of the Israeli military. It is Israel that is killing Palestinians in horrendous numbers. Defending the indefensible. You cannot bomb schools and hospitals. Period! But lie about 'human shields' and all of a sudden the baying mob forget all morality. "It's ok to kill these kids. In fact it wasn't even us that killed them". I tell you, within our lifetimes Israel will be recognised globally for what it truely is; a racist state similar to apartheid SA. And when that happens your children or grandchildren will be ashamed of you and the way you defended what the state of Israel is doing.
vivathedeceiver - I am sickened by the lies in your comments :

To claim the Palestinians are defenceless is a lie !!

4,000 + rockets fired indiscriminately at Israeli kids & civilians in 21 days. This included sophisticated Iranian death missiles. Each rocket could kill 50 + civilians. You do the maths.

It is your friends Hamas who are the apartheid homophobic racist entity, - check out their constitution, - they are committed to destroying Israel & like the Nazis killing the Jewish community.

You should hang your head in shame & apologise to your ancestors.

Congratulations again to all the Green, Labour & Conservative councillors for blocking this fascist boycott.
It is you who is the liar. How can you keep a straight face claiming that the Palestinians constitute any real threat to the Israeli war machine. Utterly ridiculous!

Also it's very silly to say these rockets could kill xyz. They didn't though did they?! Israeli bombs and shells killed ANOTHER 2000 Palestinians. That did happen didn't it! Let's stick with facts shall we?!

And there it is again! Let's bring up Nazis and Hitler the moment anyone criticises Israeli government policy. Condemning the actions of a government is in no way racial prejudice. Bombing residential neighbourhoods because someone of the same ethnic and national identity killed three of your teenagers is!

What is more, at no point in any comment that I have ever made on this site have I shown support for Hamas. This is a 70 year conflict you devious snake and stop trying to pretend otherwise. Hamas isn't the problem. Israeli aggression and colonial expansion is! I support the Palestinian people's right to live in dignity and security in their own state without suffering brutality at the hands of their racist oppressors!
[quote][p][bold]hursthill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vivelavive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hursthill[/bold] wrote: No vivathediva, your comment isn't the RUB. It's RUBish ! Israel does want peace, but the Palestinians want to steal & ethnically cleanse Israeli land.[/p][/quote]I am astonished by the hostility in your comments. Your constant repetition of the Israeli state propaganda that sets out to de-humanise the Palestinians. Accusing them of wanting to ethnically cleanse the land. Look at the figures and the reality. The Palestinians are defenceless in the face of the Israeli military. It is Israel that is killing Palestinians in horrendous numbers. Defending the indefensible. You cannot bomb schools and hospitals. Period! But lie about 'human shields' and all of a sudden the baying mob forget all morality. "It's ok to kill these kids. In fact it wasn't even us that killed them". I tell you, within our lifetimes Israel will be recognised globally for what it truely is; a racist state similar to apartheid SA. And when that happens your children or grandchildren will be ashamed of you and the way you defended what the state of Israel is doing.[/p][/quote]vivathedeceiver - I am sickened by the lies in your comments : To claim the Palestinians are defenceless is a lie !! 4,000 + rockets fired indiscriminately at Israeli kids & civilians in 21 days. This included sophisticated Iranian death missiles. Each rocket could kill 50 + civilians. You do the maths. It is your friends Hamas who are the apartheid homophobic racist entity, - check out their constitution, - they are committed to destroying Israel & like the Nazis killing the Jewish community. You should hang your head in shame & apologise to your ancestors. Congratulations again to all the Green, Labour & Conservative councillors for blocking this fascist boycott.[/p][/quote]It is you who is the liar. How can you keep a straight face claiming that the Palestinians constitute any real threat to the Israeli war machine. Utterly ridiculous! Also it's very silly to say these rockets could kill xyz. They didn't though did they?! Israeli bombs and shells killed ANOTHER 2000 Palestinians. That did happen didn't it! Let's stick with facts shall we?! And there it is again! Let's bring up Nazis and Hitler the moment anyone criticises Israeli government policy. Condemning the actions of a government is in no way racial prejudice. Bombing residential neighbourhoods because someone of the same ethnic and national identity killed three of your teenagers is! What is more, at no point in any comment that I have ever made on this site have I shown support for Hamas. This is a 70 year conflict you devious snake and stop trying to pretend otherwise. Hamas isn't the problem. Israeli aggression and colonial expansion is! I support the Palestinian people's right to live in dignity and security in their own state without suffering brutality at the hands of their racist oppressors! vivelavive
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