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Hundreds of jobs are set to be lost at one of Brighton's largest employers.
Up to 300 workers at the Inkfish call centre have been told their jobs will be transferred to a company in Northern Ireland.
The jobs - on the Post Office campaign - range from call agents and administration staff to team leaders and managers.
Inkfish staff received letters last week explaining their contracts would be transferred to Londonderry-based company Stream.
In a statement to The Argus, the company said staff would be fully consulted about the move and admitted "approximately 250" jobs were under threat.
But angry workers say if they do not move to Northern Ireland to take up the jobs they will effectively be resigning - meaning Inkfish will not have to pay any redundancy package.
One senior call agent at the office in Queen Square in the city centre said: "We are basically being kept in the dark and so there are a lot of rumours flying around.
"People are just very, very worried and the morale in the office is at an all-time low.
"They cannot expect us to move to Northern Ireland, it's completely unreasonable. We also haven't been given a timeframe.
"They just say that when they transfer the contract we will be employed by a company in Northern Ireland - but we all live in Brighton.
"It is a way of not having to pay redundancy. They must know people aren't going to up sticks and move to Londonderry. But there are other factors too.
"If we don't take up the contract we are effectively making ourselves redundant and would therefore not be entitled to benefits. It's no wonder people are scared."
Inkfish say it is prepared to enter consultation with staff and has suggested staff form a 16-strong team for discussions. The letter to workers quotes the Transfer of Undertakings Protection of Employment Regulations (TUPE) legislation.
The letter, seen by the The Argus, reads: "Once we have confirmation that TUPE applies and the agreement is terminated, your contract of employment with Inkfish will automatically transfer on the termination date of the agreement to the new provider.....This means the new provider would become your employer. Your continuity of service is preserved."
It has also emerged that, even if Inkfish is forced to pay redundancy packages, the majority of staff will only be given small payouts. Workers who have been with the company for less than two years would only be offered one week's pay, while those under the age of 22 would only be entitled to half a week's pay.
Another call agent, who would not be named, said: "I have worked here for more than four years and I cannot believe this. It is an absolute joke.
"The mood in the office is horrible. People are upset, angry and very negative. There has been talk of a walk-out one day this week in protest.
"For some people this is just a summer job but for others it is our careers. I feel like I've been sent up the creek without a paddle."
A spokeswoman for Inkfish said: "Inkfish has been given notice of termination by the Post Office under its agreement to provide customer support activities on behalf of HomePhone.
"Following further discussions with the Post Office, on Friday July 13 we commenced consultations with our staff, informing them that the services would be provided through a third party, based in Londonderry, Northern Ireland.
"Our staff were also provided with full information concerning their statutory rights on a change of supplier, including the right to be consulted through elected employee representatives.
"We continue to look after the best interests of our staff at this difficult time, and we will provide more information to them as we are able to do so. A total of approximately 250 jobs in Brighton are likely to be affected."
What do you think? Are you affected by the decision? Will you follow the firm to Northern Ireland? Leave your comments below.
graham, bton says...
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EX FISH, london says...
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EcoRepairMan, Brighton says...
3:19pm Tue 17 Jul 07
VLR, Brighton says...
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EcoRepairMan, Brighton says...
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upset, brighton says...
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Chief, brighton says...
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BUZME, Brighton says...
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DAVID, Brighton ex Amex Employee says...
5:39pm Tue 17 Jul 07
mmmmmmm, says...
5:46pm Tue 17 Jul 07
DAVID wrote:Then we would get sacked and gain nothing.
STAGE A WALKOUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ONE PERSON CANNOT ACHIEVE MUCH BUT ALL OF YOU TOGETHER CAN BRING INKFISH TO THIER KNEES. TAKE A LEAF OUT OF THE FRENCH WORKERS MANUAL AND TALK WITH YOUR FEET. IF PEOPLE DO NOT MAKE A STAND WHEN IT COUNTS THESE MONEY MAKING MACHINES WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIER EMPLOYEES FOR THE BENEFIT OF THIER SHAREHOLDERS. MAKE A STAND NOW, BEFORE YOU MISS YOUR CHANCE!!!!
David John Hulatt, Brighton says...
6:50pm Tue 17 Jul 07
Saddened, Brighton says...
6:56pm Tue 17 Jul 07
upset, brighton says...
6:59pm Tue 17 Jul 07
David, Brighton says...
7:03pm Tue 17 Jul 07
mmmmmmm wrote:Your going to get nothing anyway. At least this way you go on your terms and your conditions. Besides, you underestimate the damage it will do to Inkfish and thier beloved Post Office account. How long will the Post Office continue to use a company of such low morals after the inconvenience a walk out will cause them???
DAVID wrote: STAGE A WALKOUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ONE PERSON CANNOT ACHIEVE MUCH BUT ALL OF YOU TOGETHER CAN BRING INKFISH TO THIER KNEES. TAKE A LEAF OUT OF THE FRENCH WORKERS MANUAL AND TALK WITH YOUR FEET. IF PEOPLE DO NOT MAKE A STAND WHEN IT COUNTS THESE MONEY MAKING MACHINES WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIER EMPLOYEES FOR THE BENEFIT OF THIER SHAREHOLDERS. MAKE A STAND NOW, BEFORE YOU MISS YOUR CHANCE!!!!Then we would get sacked and gain nothing.
David, Brighton says...
7:06pm Tue 17 Jul 07
R - 3rd, Brighton says...
7:21pm Tue 17 Jul 07
stevie, brighton says...
7:55pm Tue 17 Jul 07
peter, hove says...
7:59pm Tue 17 Jul 07
john, hove says...
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joanna, brighton says...
8:31pm Tue 17 Jul 07
upset, brighton says...
8:42pm Tue 17 Jul 07
David wrote:not if u get sacked or resign. if u are made redundant u can claim benefits and on any loan insurance.
Are'nt you entitled to Benefits if you get Sacked?!?!?!?!?!?
upset, brighton says...
8:51pm Tue 17 Jul 07
stevie wrote:There are people who may not be happy in their jobs, but it still pays the bills and being cut off with out redundancy pay wont do that.
why dont you all stop moaning. i bet most of you dont like your jobs anyway so this gives you the opportunity to do something that you want. It is not as if you are all highly paid city workers. You have been knowingly ripped off for years so stop moaning and go and et a better job.
dolefish, not that stupid says...
8:57pm Tue 17 Jul 07
Anon, Brighton says...
9:02pm Tue 17 Jul 07
ex-worker, bton says...
9:37pm Tue 17 Jul 07
bangwang, brighton says...
10:14pm Tue 17 Jul 07
lisa, brighton says...
10:30pm Tue 17 Jul 07
graham wrote:i currently work for inkfish and have done for the past year and a half...i have been screwed by inkfish more times than i can remember for the littlest of things ie losing a £180 silver adp bonus for not hitting stats set for someone who has been on a campaign 6 months when i have been on sky 1 months after being told i move from POHP back office given a day and a half notice or "resign"!! anyway thats beside the point i wish to say thanku for all the support and do have to say the one and only reason i have stayed at inkfish for so long is the people (well the majority of them) who i work with who make inkfish wot it is and dont deserve what is happening. i am shocked that i return from my lunch today only to find that BT wholesale have already started to transfer the accounts to their network!!! contory to reports advising we will be given sufficent notice looks as though this is again not the case and the loyal staff and i have to say managers as they are in the same sinking boat as us -get screwed AGAIN
So much for the postive news coverage the argus has given Inkfish over the last few months, making noises over its contribution to the local econonmy. Its clear the only way it was able to win contracts was to sell its workforce down the river. I suspect the senior staff will get bonuses just like they always do...
RockyFish, Brighton says...
11:27pm Tue 17 Jul 07
NI ROCKS !, says...
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Another Anon Agent, brighton says...
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Mr Man, Brighton says...
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JC, Brighton says...
1:31pm Wed 18 Jul 07
Mr Man wrote:I feel that we have diverted of topic. Mr Man there is some truth to what you say, however there still is a gross violation of employment laws here. regardless of wether or not you are in love with inkfish, these employees are still in the throws of being treated unfairly. This Has Not Happened yet, there is nothing to deal with until Infish make the correct choices, and i am sure that all involved wish to move on as rapidly as possible. Inkfish should never had made public there decision until they were fully aware of the outcomes. I am sure that given more time they will pay what is duely owed and that people will not have to relocate to Eire. I worked on Post Office and was in fact there from day one, it was a fun and vibrant campaign, saying that it was also a very hard campaign to manage and control. personally i blame Servista for the whole thing!
What a load of wasted energy. This is the 21st Century. A job is not for life anymore. Many of these comments refer to employees not being happy in the first place. Take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming others. This has happened, deal with it, learn from it and move on.
upset, brighton says...
1:54pm Wed 18 Jul 07
Anonymous Agent wrote:I do enjoy my job and I am good at it, and I am still working here, so I think your comments are a pile of c*ap.
I currently work for Inkfish and feel that all these comments are simply people who left on bad terms (or currently hold some sort of grievance) with Inkfish. I have worked on several campaigns for a number of years and have been treated with great respect and understanding by the company. All the stuff get a LOT more support and help than most places I've worked for. It is unfortunate that the company has lost a big client but it is not Inkfish's fault. These things happen and it shouldn't be an excuse for miserable people to vent their anger onto the company. I am NOT a senior member of management so I have worked on the phones for a long time and couldn't be happier with the way that the company has treated me and my fellow collegues. The company provides many incentives to keep morale high (which many other companies do not provide) and the atmosphere is fun, light-hearted and very enjoyable. The management do not treat the agents any differently from each other. It is the people who are consistantly late, absent or failing quality requirement who end up disliking the company...which in my opinion is childish. And if someone is not happy with the amount of money being earned there, they need to remind themself that it is a telesales job at the end of the day and no one is forcing them to work there. The company management does its best to keep people happy, entertained and rewarded for their hard work and most people who work there will agree. Again, isn't it a coinsidence that most of the negative comments above are people who have left inkfish. I will rest my case but I seriously think that you should stop venting your anger on the company and find a job that you enjoy doing. I thoroughly enjoy working for Inkfish and plan to remain there as long as I can.
dave, brighton says...
2:33pm Wed 18 Jul 07
Alex, Brighton says...
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schmeikel, derry says...
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mike, brighton says...
2:59pm Wed 18 Jul 07
Alex wrote:well put.. the easy life is coming to an end for some...the bottom line is that some agents are going to have to change departments....sound
If the post office have decided to relocate its campaign there is not much from a company point of view that inkfish could do about it, they also would not have been given that much notice themselves! Such are the pitfalls of working in telesales, certainly from a client/company point of view, one that agents are not often faced with. Agents work for inkfish not the post office Im sure inkfish will end up relocating all of the said employees throughout other campaigns as the turnover rates for staff in telesales is phenomenal compared to other buisinesses anyway. This is not the end of the world for these workers, just the start of a new campaign and im sure this is what most are miffed about because I have it on good authority that the post office campaign certainly was the 'cushty' option for inkfish staff! Moreover if this is such an issue with the said employees a change of career is apt as the constant ups and downs of telesales seem not to suit.
clifford thomas, worthing says...
3:11pm Wed 18 Jul 07
tc, brighton says...
4:03pm Wed 18 Jul 07
JC, Brighton says...
4:12pm Wed 18 Jul 07
tc wrote:Well if that is not a blatant plug then i don't know what is. At the end of the day you make the job what it is, Inkfish is by no means perfect but it has a competant HR department and does 90% of the time have the best interest of its staff at heart. The fact is only how the current situation has been handled. This is not Inkfish 'Mistreating' it's staff, its a massive blunder that someone leaked information without truly thinking first. People love drama, and although this is a time of crisis for many PO employees, i think that you and i know that they will do what is right.
I just cannot believe that Inkgish have , yet again, got away with mistreating its staff - I used to be a recrutiement consultant(don't aht me!0 and supplied templ staff to Inkfish, Telegen & TTMC: what-a-nightmare. at the time , about 5 years ago, most people walked out after a few weeks as they felt, quite rightly, that they were being mistreated: In my view - Call centre staff are used as cannon fodder (and I have worked in several myself, including amex, Telegen, Lloyds) Something needs to be done to protect people from employers treating them with such contempt. they want so much and offer very little in retunr. I feel for all you guys. Keep the faith and go to TTMC!
tc, brighton says...
4:21pm Wed 18 Jul 07
GB wrote:Muppet -
Boo-Hoo, For Years you Post Office people have behaved like your a cut above everybody else and act like your special. You all think that sales is below you and everything should be handed to you on a silver platter. Stop crying, and start looking for a job elsewhere - before the real scramble starts, because if you really think going to the Argus is going to do anything except p**s D&G/Inkfish off then i am afraid you are so very wrong. And the Union are just a load of leeches trying to sign you all up when your at a low point - they are no better than door to door salesmen ripping off grannies. also you lot might want to check out: http://www.jobcentre plus.gov.uk/JCP/Cust omers/WorkingAgeBene fits/Jobseekerallowa nce/index.html
tc, brighton says...
4:27pm Wed 18 Jul 07
JC wrote:sorry - what am I plugging? -
tc wrote: I just cannot believe that Inkgish have , yet again, got away with mistreating its staff - I used to be a recrutiement consultant(don't aht me!0 and supplied templ staff to Inkfish, Telegen & TTMC: what-a-nightmare. at the time , about 5 years ago, most people walked out after a few weeks as they felt, quite rightly, that they were being mistreated: In my view - Call centre staff are used as cannon fodder (and I have worked in several myself, including amex, Telegen, Lloyds) Something needs to be done to protect people from employers treating them with such contempt. they want so much and offer very little in retunr. I feel for all you guys. Keep the faith and go to TTMC!Well if that is not a blatant plug then i don't know what is. At the end of the day you make the job what it is, Inkfish is by no means perfect but it has a competant HR department and does 90% of the time have the best interest of its staff at heart. The fact is only how the current situation has been handled. This is not Inkfish 'Mistreating' it's staff, its a massive blunder that someone leaked information without truly thinking first. People love drama, and although this is a time of crisis for many PO employees, i think that you and i know that they will do what is right.
crappy, brighton says...
4:33pm Wed 18 Jul 07
quoteincluding how unprofessional all the managers are there! They strut around thinking about how important they all are and how much they are doing for the company, but forget they are doing absolutely nothing for the staff that work there. The amount of money they earn for the jobs they do is ridiculous, especially when you see them having a social meeting whilst all the rest are working hard!
JC, says...
4:35pm Wed 18 Jul 07
Patrick, Brighton says...
4:57pm Wed 18 Jul 07
bangwang wrote:I'd be more impressed with most of all your rantings if any of you could write correct English. If these are the standards you employed whilst working, no wonder Inkfish lost the contract.
well surprise surprise stinkfish peeps who read this may reconginise me as i used to work on pohp and in my opinion what a load of ****,this is by far the worst company i have worked for EVER the management have no idea of how to run a company they may as well all have there heads in the sand as they would prob do a better job that way... im not at all surprised that this has happened people used to talk to me about this over 6 months ago and now the day has come. well what a shoddy disgrace i do not personally see how the management can have the ordasity to tell employees that they will \"help\" where they can u\'d be better getting a demented monkey to help u anyway i could go on all night about this matter all i have to say is AEISEL (american express insurance services europe lmited) u\'ll be much better off guys
tc, brighton says...
5:01pm Wed 18 Jul 07
JC wrote:TTMC treat people a litte more like "people" which is why I would (STILL) recommend them, and I'm not even getting a commision!
view - Call centre staff are used as cannon fodder (and I have worked in several myself, including amex, Telegen, Lloyds) Something needs to be done to protect people from employers treating them with such contempt. they want so much and offer very little in retunr. I feel for all you guys. Keep the faith and go to TTMC! First you seem to be saying how Call Centre staff are used for cannon fodder, and yet you finish up advising people to go and work at the Telemarketing Company. (TTMC) But once again it's not really about Inkfish 'Mistreating' it's staff... if that is really the case, it's about this CURRENT situation. You cannont please all the people all the time. A mistake was made, and i am **** sure that the internal meetings going on inside Inkfish over the last 24 hours are doing what they can to a)place a lid on this due to damage limitation, as this is potentially damaging for new business and b) keeping the staff from taking legal action.
mmmmmmm, says...
5:04pm Wed 18 Jul 07
GB, Brighton says...
5:19pm Wed 18 Jul 07
tc wrote:I'm a muppet? your the loser trying to get staff for "TTMC" you are wasting your breath because this bunch of idiots dont like calling people, they will only work if people call them. theyre lazy, useless scum which is why PO moved its business to BT who are just scum.
GB wrote: Boo-Hoo, For Years you Post Office people have behaved like your a cut above everybody else and act like your special. You all think that sales is below you and everything should be handed to you on a silver platter. Stop crying, and start looking for a job elsewhere - before the real scramble starts, because if you really think going to the Argus is going to do anything except p**s D&G/Inkfish off then i am afraid you are so very wrong. And the Union are just a load of leeches trying to sign you all up when your at a low point - they are no better than door to door salesmen ripping off grannies. also you lot might want to check out: http://www.jobcentre plus.gov.uk/JCP/Cust omers/WorkingAgeBene fits/Jobseekerallowa nce/index.htmlMuppet - Have a heart man
Stinkfish Suck, says...
5:21pm Wed 18 Jul 07
Anonymous Agent wrote:I have never worked for Inkfish, and never will. I refuse to work in Sales anyway, however "exciting an opportunity" is. Full of BS managers. I`m told there`s just one decent team leader on the Sky floor. Inkfish should treat their workers in line with Employment law and not twist it to avoid shelling out redundancy payments just so the management can have champagne when they backslap themselves for inflicting another load of slave labour on Brighton and Hove on one hand and a load of people who find themselves out of a job because they wouldn`t(or couldn`t) move just for some jumped up tin pot company`s convenience.
I currently work for Inkfish and feel that all these comments are simply people who left on bad terms (or currently hold some sort of grievance) with Inkfish. I have worked on several campaigns for a number of years and have been treated with great respect and understanding by the company. All the stuff get a LOT more support and help than most places I've worked for. It is unfortunate that the company has lost a big client but it is not Inkfish's fault. These things happen and it shouldn't be an excuse for miserable people to vent their anger onto the company. I am NOT a senior member of management so I have worked on the phones for a long time and couldn't be happier with the way that the company has treated me and my fellow collegues. The company provides many incentives to keep morale high (which many other companies do not provide) and the atmosphere is fun, light-hearted and very enjoyable. The management do not treat the agents any differently from each other. It is the people who are consistantly late, absent or failing quality requirement who end up disliking the company...which in my opinion is childish. And if someone is not happy with the amount of money being earned there, they need to remind themself that it is a telesales job at the end of the day and no one is forcing them to work there. The company management does its best to keep people happy, entertained and rewarded for their hard work and most people who work there will agree. Again, isn't it a coinsidence that most of the negative comments above are people who have left inkfish. I will rest my case but I seriously think that you should stop venting your anger on the company and find a job that you enjoy doing. I thoroughly enjoy working for Inkfish and plan to remain there as long as I can.
Ringmer Rover, Ringmer says...
5:44pm Wed 18 Jul 07
Randstad Work Solutions, Brighton says...
6:25pm Wed 18 Jul 07
BN, lewes says...
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Anon, Brighton says...
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mmmmmmm, says...
8:07pm Wed 18 Jul 07
Marc Lloyd, BN3 says...
10:32pm Wed 18 Jul 07
graham wrote:I'm so very dismayed by most of the comments here. I have just finished working for Inkfish for the past 18 Months and I found the company to be progressive and without doubt the most Agent focused Call Centre based organisation I have had the pleasure to work for. They have a cutting edge Training & Development Programme, which I hasten to add cannot be matched by most similar organisations! All new staff are nurtured through a 3-4 week Induction-Developmen
So much for the postive news coverage the argus has given Inkfish over the last few months, making noises over its contribution to the local econonmy. Its clear the only way it was able to win contracts was to sell its workforce down the river. I suspect the senior staff will get bonuses just like they always do...
mmmmmmm, says...
11:00pm Wed 18 Jul 07
Marc Lloyd wrote:Welcome HR to the message board.Ha ha the fairest and most competant call centres ever I dont think. Only fair Inkfish get a reply but bloody hell are you stupid ask anyone that works there plenty of people outside, they will tell you what they think. As for TUPE may well be in the best interest of workers if in the region but Northern Island!!!!! hey Marc why dont you move there
graham wrote: So much for the postive news coverage the argus has given Inkfish over the last few months, making noises over its contribution to the local econonmy. Its clear the only way it was able to win contracts was to sell its workforce down the river. I suspect the senior staff will get bonuses just like they always do...I\'m so very dismayed by most of the comments here. I have just finished working for Inkfish for the past 18 Months and I found the company to be progressive and without doubt the most Agent focused Call Centre based organisation I have had the pleasure to work for. They have a cutting edge Training & Development Programme, which I hasten to add cannot be matched by most similar organisations! All new staff are nurtured through a 3-4 week Induction-Developmen t Programme with intensive training and once the Agent is qualified there are equally impressive succession programmes for them to progress their careers. It\'s unfortunate that Post Office have moved the contract and that it effects a large proportion of staff, it\'s also unfortunate that disgruntled employees have chosen to air their views to an ever eager local journalistic institution. All those effected have a right to feel hurt by this decision, and I hasten to add a decision made SOLELY by the Post Office, however, all those who have commented in an unbelievably negative and sadistic fashion have obviously never been through the TUPE (Transfer of Undertakings) process. It\'s a legal framework put in place by the government with full support of the unions to ensure that employees are treated fairly in these kinds of regrettable outcomes. TUPE can take months and presents with Management with a Legal Minefield, designed to BENEFIT the Employee and NOT hinder them in any way. The management are currently working very hard to ensure staff are treated fairly, they have to ciontinue to hire staff onto this campaign as the TUPE regulations DEMAND that the processing of the work continues in an orderly fashion until such time as all points are in place to move the work with minimum effect to staff. The law does not demand of a company that it should provide redundancy payments to staff... it is merely a guidline and as suck Inkfish are actually going above and beyound the call of duty in providing redundancy of any kind. So... before anymore discgruntled ex-employees decide to vent their anger at a company who\'s HR Policy is to go above and beyond in it\'s defence of employees rights, perhaps they will read the above and take stock of what is in actuality one of the fairest and competant Call Centre Oragnisations on the south coast!
mmmmmmm, says...
11:06pm Wed 18 Jul 07
Tired, Brighton says...
11:11pm Wed 18 Jul 07
mmmmmmm, says...
11:39pm Wed 18 Jul 07
mmmmmmm, says...
12:01am Thu 19 Jul 07
Randstad Work Solutions, Brighton ( above Costa Coffee) says...
10:50am Thu 19 Jul 07
dolefish, not telling says...
11:25am Thu 19 Jul 07
Alex, says...
11:32am Thu 19 Jul 07
I'm so very dismayed by most of the comments here. I have just finished working for Inkfish for the past 18 Months and I found the company to be progressive and without doubt the most Agent focused Call Centre based organisation I have had the pleasure to work for. They have a cutting edge Training & Development Programme, which I hasten to add cannot be matched by most similar organisations! All new staff are nurtured through a 3-4 week Induction-Developmen
t Programme with intensive training and once the Agent is qualified there are equally impressive succession programmes for them to progress their careers.
It's unfortunate that Post Office have moved the contract and that it effects a large proportion of staff, it's also unfortunate that disgruntled employees have chosen to air their views to an ever eager local journalistic institution.
All those effected have a right to feel hurt by this decision, and I hasten to add a decision made SOLELY by the Post Office, however, all those who have commented in an unbelievably negative and sadistic fashion have obviously never been through the TUPE (Transfer of Undertakings) process. It's a legal framework put in place by the government with full support of the unions to ensure that employees are treated fairly in these kinds of regrettable outcomes.
TUPE can take months and presents with Management with a Legal Minefield, designed to BENEFIT the Employee and NOT hinder them in any way.
The management are currently working very hard to ensure staff are treated fairly, they have to ciontinue to hire staff onto this campaign as the TUPE regulations DEMAND that the processing of the work continues in an orderly fashion until such time as all points are in place to move the work with minimum effect to staff. The law does not demand of a company that it should provide redundancy payments to staff... it is merely a guidline and as suck Inkfish are actually going above and beyound the call of duty in providing redundancy of any kind.
So... before anymore discgruntled ex-employees decide to vent their anger at a company who's HR Policy is to go above and beyond in it's defence of employees rights, perhaps they will read the above and take stock of what is in actuality one of the fairest and competant Call Centre Oragnisations on the south coast!
VLR, Brighton says...
12:34pm Thu 19 Jul 07
In The Know, Brighton says...
12:56pm Thu 19 Jul 07
Alan, Brighton says...
1:07pm Thu 19 Jul 07
VLR, Brighton says...
1:14pm Thu 19 Jul 07
I Laughed, far too much says...
2:10pm Thu 19 Jul 07
Assia, Hove says...
3:36pm Thu 19 Jul 07
Niki, Worthing says...
4:02pm Thu 19 Jul 07
Tired, Brighton says...
4:36pm Thu 19 Jul 07
marc Lloyd, Brighton says...
6:21pm Thu 19 Jul 07
mar lloyd, brighton says...
6:32pm Thu 19 Jul 07
mmmmmmm wrote:How very kind. If you had read my message thoroughly instead of taking a biased view you would have seen that I no longer work their and therefore represent my own opinions! Last time I checked there were seeral hundred people happy working their... you could work for Telegen for christ sake!
Marc Lloyd wrote:Welcome HR to the message board.Ha ha the fairest and most competant call centres ever I dont think. Only fair Inkfish get a reply but bloody hell are you stupid ask anyone that works there plenty of people outside, they will tell you what they think. As for TUPE may well be in the best interest of workers if in the region but Northern Island!!!!! hey Marc why dont you move there
graham wrote: So much for the postive news coverage the argus has given Inkfish over the last few months, making noises over its contribution to the local econonmy. Its clear the only way it was able to win contracts was to sell its workforce down the river. I suspect the senior staff will get bonuses just like they always do...I\\\'m so very dismayed by most of the comments here. I have just finished working for Inkfish for the past 18 Months and I found the company to be progressive and without doubt the most Agent focused Call Centre based organisation I have had the pleasure to work for. They have a cutting edge Training & Development Programme, which I hasten to add cannot be matched by most similar organisations! All new staff are nurtured through a 3-4 week Induction-Developmen t Programme with intensive training and once the Agent is qualified there are equally impressive succession programmes for them to progress their careers. It\\\'s unfortunate that Post Office have moved the contract and that it effects a large proportion of staff, it\\\'s also unfortunate that disgruntled employees have chosen to air their views to an ever eager local journalistic institution. All those effected have a right to feel hurt by this decision, and I hasten to add a decision made SOLELY by the Post Office, however, all those who have commented in an unbelievably negative and sadistic fashion have obviously never been through the TUPE (Transfer of Undertakings) process. It\\\'s a legal framework put in place by the government with full support of the unions to ensure that employees are treated fairly in these kinds of regrettable outcomes. TUPE can take months and presents with Management with a Legal Minefield, designed to BENEFIT the Employee and NOT hinder them in any way. The management are currently working very hard to ensure staff are treated fairly, they have to ciontinue to hire staff onto this campaign as the TUPE regulations DEMAND that the processing of the work continues in an orderly fashion until such time as all points are in place to move the work with minimum effect to staff. The law does not demand of a company that it should provide redundancy payments to staff... it is merely a guidline and as suck Inkfish are actually going above and beyound the call of duty in providing redundancy of any kind. So... before anymore discgruntled ex-employees decide to vent their anger at a company who\\\'s HR Policy is to go above and beyond in it\\\'s defence of employees rights, perhaps they will read the above and take stock of what is in actuality one of the fairest and competant Call Centre Oragnisations on the south coast!
you know who, B-Town says...
7:21pm Thu 19 Jul 07
Greek, The big BRI says...
8:34pm Thu 19 Jul 07
Sleazy, Bright Town says...
9:43pm Thu 19 Jul 07
malc, london says...
8:50am Fri 20 Jul 07
Ecorepairman, brighton says...
9:09am Fri 20 Jul 07
In The Know wrote:re: In the know
Inkfish will get fined if they dont keep up its service level agreement with PO for the last few weeks, similarly the companies currently recruiting expect Inkfish to ramp-up to the agreed capacity in the agreed time. Therefore the company (not wanting to harm itself in anyway) are not offering the posistions to the PO staff about to be jobless. This would mean they don't hit targets on the campaign. Also they cannot hold out on the recruitment until PO closes as this will mean they are not providing the FTE they promised to the other campaigns. Now if that doesn't prove they are looking out for themselves at the expense of others, nothing will.
Back Office Bob, brighton says...
9:14am Fri 20 Jul 07
P.Doff, Brighton says...
10:38am Fri 20 Jul 07
greek, The big BRI says...
11:17am Fri 20 Jul 07
VLR, Brighton says...
11:58am Fri 20 Jul 07
marc lloyd, Brighton says...
2:55pm Fri 20 Jul 07
P.Doff wrote:Why sepend all this time complaining? Life is TOO short... if you don't/didn't like your job... why stay there? As for your comments re. Training, I pity you... evidently you didn't listen to the messages given to you or as is more probable, went into the session thinking "I wont get anything out of this" and therefore didn't! I pity you.
The Agents and Team Leaders in Inkfish Brighton are NOT stupid but are certainly treated as such by 'the management'. 1) Inkfish do not care about their staff. Most of the negative stuff said here is absolutely true, I experienced it myself over a number of years. Anyone above Team Leader in the company seems to be part of an elite group, everyone else is seen as nothing more than a number. 2)The training department spend a lot of their time writing courses that have no impact whatsoever and are pretty much given free reign to do what they like and this doesn't include helping and supporting the people who need it. 3) If you work there, get out and work for a company that values you.
back office bob, brighton says...
4:23pm Fri 20 Jul 07
VLR wrote:VLR - You are totally wrong. If you have 'heard this' you have stupidly missunderstood what you heard. I suggest you move on - you are clearly ready for it. Vacate your job and leave it free for somebody who wants to actually work at it!
Everything I have said on here is fact, heard "out of the horses mouth" so to speak. Therefore I cannot say who I am. But I can say this, I am getting out of this company so fast you won't see me for dust, even though my job is safe. It is only a matter of time until it happens to everybody else. Also, what "In the know" said about not offering jobs to PO staff due to SLA's is also 100% true, I have heard this first hand from the people making the decisions. I do agree that people should get out there, get a better and more worthwhile job and pick themselves up. However I do not believe that Inkfish should be allowed to get away with this. Of course it will... But it should not.
Mark, HOVE says...
7:31pm Fri 20 Jul 07
Mark, Hove says...
7:36pm Fri 20 Jul 07
mmmmmmm, says...
10:07pm Fri 20 Jul 07
Tired, Brighton says...
1:28pm Sat 21 Jul 07
Interested, Brighton says...
3:12pm Wed 25 Jul 07
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Steve G, Brighton says...
7:39am Tue 17 Jul 07