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Call centre to axe up to 300 jobs

5:54am Tuesday 17th July 2007

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Hundreds of jobs are set to be lost at one of Brighton's largest employers.

Up to 300 workers at the Inkfish call centre have been told their jobs will be transferred to a company in Northern Ireland.

The jobs - on the Post Office campaign - range from call agents and administration staff to team leaders and managers.

Inkfish staff received letters last week explaining their contracts would be transferred to Londonderry-based company Stream.

In a statement to The Argus, the company said staff would be fully consulted about the move and admitted "approximately 250" jobs were under threat.

But angry workers say if they do not move to Northern Ireland to take up the jobs they will effectively be resigning - meaning Inkfish will not have to pay any redundancy package.

One senior call agent at the office in Queen Square in the city centre said: "We are basically being kept in the dark and so there are a lot of rumours flying around.

"People are just very, very worried and the morale in the office is at an all-time low.

"They cannot expect us to move to Northern Ireland, it's completely unreasonable. We also haven't been given a timeframe.

"They just say that when they transfer the contract we will be employed by a company in Northern Ireland - but we all live in Brighton.

"It is a way of not having to pay redundancy. They must know people aren't going to up sticks and move to Londonderry. But there are other factors too.

"If we don't take up the contract we are effectively making ourselves redundant and would therefore not be entitled to benefits. It's no wonder people are scared."

Inkfish say it is prepared to enter consultation with staff and has suggested staff form a 16-strong team for discussions. The letter to workers quotes the Transfer of Undertakings Protection of Employment Regulations (TUPE) legislation.

The letter, seen by the The Argus, reads: "Once we have confirmation that TUPE applies and the agreement is terminated, your contract of employment with Inkfish will automatically transfer on the termination date of the agreement to the new provider.....This means the new provider would become your employer. Your continuity of service is preserved."

It has also emerged that, even if Inkfish is forced to pay redundancy packages, the majority of staff will only be given small payouts. Workers who have been with the company for less than two years would only be offered one week's pay, while those under the age of 22 would only be entitled to half a week's pay.

Another call agent, who would not be named, said: "I have worked here for more than four years and I cannot believe this. It is an absolute joke.

"The mood in the office is horrible. People are upset, angry and very negative. There has been talk of a walk-out one day this week in protest.

"For some people this is just a summer job but for others it is our careers. I feel like I've been sent up the creek without a paddle."

A spokeswoman for Inkfish said: "Inkfish has been given notice of termination by the Post Office under its agreement to provide customer support activities on behalf of HomePhone.

"Following further discussions with the Post Office, on Friday July 13 we commenced consultations with our staff, informing them that the services would be provided through a third party, based in Londonderry, Northern Ireland.

"Our staff were also provided with full information concerning their statutory rights on a change of supplier, including the right to be consulted through elected employee representatives.

"We continue to look after the best interests of our staff at this difficult time, and we will provide more information to them as we are able to do so. A total of approximately 250 jobs in Brighton are likely to be affected."

What do you think? Are you affected by the decision? Will you follow the firm to Northern Ireland? Leave your comments below.


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Steve G, Brighton says...
7:39am Tue 17 Jul 07

So much for pro worker policies under labour. The communist unions and the New Labour / Old Communist government has undermined the working and middle classes for the past ten years with their pro big business and taxation policies that only favour the very rich. Labour has killed social mobility in this country and increased the wealth gap between rich and poor to its widest in 40 years.

graham, bton says...
7:52am Tue 17 Jul 07

So much for the postive news coverage the argus has given Inkfish over the last few months, making noises over its contribution to the local econonmy. Its clear the only way it was able to win contracts was to sell its workforce down the river. I suspect the senior staff will get bonuses just like they always do...

Big Ed, Hove says...
9:39am Tue 17 Jul 07

A number of ugly L-shaped McRumours were flying about as I approached my office on Hove's notorious Lower East Side. I smiled grimly - I'd seen this sort of offpiste activity before(to be continued)...

dan, Brighton says...
10:30am Tue 17 Jul 07

I work for inkfish on the post office homephone campaign. The news about the termination of the contract between inkfish and post office limited was given to us three days before i went on holiday. I have just returned and been advised to look at the website re this story. i knew inkfish wouldn't play fair with the termination of staff contracts. This campaign was the biggest at this site and the cost of paying redundancy would be too great. This whole issue has ruined what should have been a fantastic holiday for me and after reading this article i am now even more worried. Inkfish has never been the best place to work in my opinion, making us work harder for our bonuses and taking more money away for minor things. Everyone is of course now looking for new jobs. This just means however, that with the limited number of jobs that everyone will be applying for friends will be competing with each other to secure employment. Brighton is a very expensive place to live and having to resign without a new job to go to could result in serious financial dificulties for us all. I am really shocked at the lack of sympatghy being shwn to the staff who have dedicated themselves to being the best and the lack of understanding expecting that people wouild transfer to northern ireland. As stated in the article, it would be completely unreasonable to expect people who are settles and have family in brighton to move so far away to keep a job

Juno, Brighton says...
10:35am Tue 17 Jul 07

I worked for this company a while ago and I have to admit I am not surprised. I have not found them to show much concern for their employees and it has always been a joke amongst Inkfishers that the 'company' is out to get them in one way or another. Perhaps it was not the case, but this news only compounds my personal feelings about this company. I am very sympathetic to all those losing their jobs, especially since they will probably be given no help or support, whilst the company does the bare minimum it has to.

Fed Up, Brighton says...
11:06am Tue 17 Jul 07

I know how the people at inkfish must feel.I am in exactly the same position but have worked for nearly 2 years at Amex (or shall we call it Arsemex), working very hard collecting money from people that do not want that money collected.In my opinion one of the hardest jobs in the call center trade. From one day to the next I was told the same thing all to save money. Its devastating being told that you are out of a job. Thanks for all your hard work but you are no longer needed.goodbye.That was also after I came back from my holiday.Talk about bad timing. In my opinion Amex is also one of those employers that do not give a **** about their staff even so they would like to pretend and show people that they are.Reality is.. they dont care and try to screw each and every one of their staff,unless one is a "manager"of course.give a little man power and dont they love it.If you like to be told when to eat,go to the toilet etc and acting like a robot then working in this sort of environment is really for you.Dont get me wrong I loved the job and people I worked with but i was disgusted,angry and devastated when this happened to me. I find this corporate behavior and treatment of staff absolutely disgusting and unprofessional. Im sure the people at inkfish have been working very hard and been doing their best. Just to be rewarded with this is totally out of order. But then what does one expect from a big corporation where one is just another number.Its all about the profit and money end of the day.That means another 300 people in Brighton looking for jobs then.Lets hope all of them find a better place soon.

Assia, Hove says...
11:08am Tue 17 Jul 07

This is unbelievable, how do they keep getting away with stuff like this? They might not be at fault with regards to losing the campaign, but the way thay treat staff is shocking. If I worked there I would be seriously reconsidering my position. Who knows what will happen now anyway. As I understand it they are losing a profitable campaign which employed a large portion of the work force. What will happen to Inkfish now, and where will they try to ship off the rest of their emplyees. Borneo?

bob jones, brighton says...
11:16am Tue 17 Jul 07

They havent even given employees a date yet so noone can start looking for a new job. This is being done SOLELY so the post office campaign still hits targets and STinkfish doesnt pay out a penalty for not having engough people answering calls, pathetic. And agents are being made to feel guilty for seeking legal information on this issue. Anything seen circulating the call centre that has info that may help the staff to report to the relevant parties , legal standpoints etc has been mysteriously removed.. funny that...

Q, Brighton says...
11:20am Tue 17 Jul 07

Why dont people join unions anymore? Perhaps Inkfish would take more notice of their employees wishes if there was a union to support them.

Assia, Hove says...
11:33am Tue 17 Jul 07

They aren't unionised there I don't think. I have a friend who works there and I seem to remember him saying that they didn't have one and thats why it is a big mess.

VLR, Brighton says...
11:34am Tue 17 Jul 07

Has someone emailed this link to the guys in Notts so they know whats going on?

upset, brighton says...
11:47am Tue 17 Jul 07

notts know now. No unions recognised by INkfish. Been here 4 years and am gutted.

VLR, Brighton says...
12:02pm Tue 17 Jul 07

So what do the Notts guys think of all this, whats going to happen to them because I hear they are in a worse position than us.

Ian, Brighton says...
12:58pm Tue 17 Jul 07

I have worked for this company in the past and know all too well how they operate.. It's a joke like others before me have stated they just don't care for the staff what so ever. If your a manager then you may get a few perks but other than that you are just another number for the head count.. I feel for you guys working there as I know people first hand who are going through this and it's not nice, I was one of the lucky ones who got out last year thank god! Anyway.. I've got it off my chest and I wish you all the best. (thats wasn't supposed to rhyme)

VLR, Brighton says...
1:01pm Tue 17 Jul 07

I really like the part where the spokes person says "We continue to look after the best interests of our staff at this difficult time, and we will provide more information to them as we are able to do so." How about starting to do any of that? I know you have done nothing at all but look out for yoursleves.

RTH, Hailsham says...
1:22pm Tue 17 Jul 07

Mmmm, all these companies are leaving the South coast. Barclays Sales Financing in Hastings, Inkfish in Brighton and I am sure many are 'down sizing'. Could we not build more houses here, and force everybody to go to London on the already breaking and under funded public transport, why on earth would we need jobs on the south coast.

Dan, Britghton says...
1:50pm Tue 17 Jul 07

Wow the **** hit the fan! I used to work for Inkfish on the sky campaign and am so glad im out of there. My thoughts are with everyone whos been affected in the post office campaign!

Pete, Brighton says...
1:59pm Tue 17 Jul 07

I worked on that campaign for about 6 months and with Inkfish for over a year. They really string out their staff, making them jump through hoops for non existent development and promotions. The post office was too much for that company and the product was too much for Post office. the post office was also too tight with its budget and the customer management system was shocking. when i left last year i knew this would happen, it was always a bad idea.. stick to delivery letters post office and inkfish should realise out sourcing is dying a death

Mr i fish, Brighton says...
2:05pm Tue 17 Jul 07

i used to work there and i found them to be an innovative and fair company to work for. Stop moaning and get back to work.

David, Hove says...
2:05pm Tue 17 Jul 07

That is the trouble with these un-skilled jobs they move about due to someone offering them cheaper contracts, I am sure the post Office and StinkFish will reap as they sow

jon, hastings says...
2:09pm Tue 17 Jul 07

Innovative.. how exactly do inkfish push boundries.. by working out a new way of screwing up workers and getting out of being fair and doing whats right! Still good luck to all who will be affected by this!

F. Uktoff, says...
2:16pm Tue 17 Jul 07

"We continue to look after the best interests of our staff at this difficult time, and we will provide more information to them as we are able to do so."
Yeah right! I think it more likely that Inkfish/D&G are well aware of the timescale for this, but by handing out info on a piecemeal way they benefit by being in full control of their employees near future. Of course once they are dispensed with they cease to be their problem. Meanwhile the morale vacuum that has been created by the Northern Ireland or resign ultimatum will ensure that many will seek employment elsewhere ASAP, there by ensuring less people to have to pay redundancy to, shoukd it come to that.

miss x, says...
2:31pm Tue 17 Jul 07

As someone who as been with Inkfish for almost 6 years I am one of just a handful and what is happening now is not a shock as Inkfish is a company who has not and probably never will, learn from it’s mistakes or listen to it’s employees. I have watched this company grow, shrink, blossom and then crash and burn a couple of times… however it is a shame that there are a few of us who have foolishly believed that loyalty does exist and that one day we might be rewarded and recognised for our service and hard work… What really happens is you get more and more responsibility and inundated with sh*t and for some of us lucky ones, gain some very valuable skills which fortunately are transferable (it’s not just a customer services and sales job which some have called unskilled) but you get no thanks for it… and possibly signed off work for stress if you’re lucky!!! (The half arsed bit of paper and 3 extra days holiday you get for 5 years service should have really highlighted how valued we are!!!) We found out just a few days before the recent blow that our Xmas bonus had been reduced for the second year in a row and the top performers wouldn’t get a pay rise in the annual salary review… I am pleased really, as this has given me the massive kick I’ve needed to actually get out of this place, to say that it’s miserable to be here at the moment is an understatement and for some people it is such a HUGE blow! If the job was a good job, then perhaps a few people might actually take up the offer of transferring to Northern Ireland (which our site manager told us is NOT another country?? Er… Yes it is) but the fact is that most of us live in Brighton for the quality of life and not for a job at Inkfish… The fact that is if we do get made redundant we get peanuts and if we don’t get ‘absorbed back into the company’ and we are forced to resign we can’t even get job seekers…. It’s just an insult really. To be kept in the dark is a ridiculous way of looking ‘after the best interests of our staff at this difficult time’!!!! Grrrrr….!

Trevor, Brighton says...
2:59pm Tue 17 Jul 07

From my perspective Inkfish has lost a contract to supply services to the Post Office, it happens in Business all of the time – if Inkfish were not producing the goods it can’t just blamed on the companies management, after all the people are who make the company.

People lose their jobs all over the world in this manner day in an day out, Inkfish has been a good employer to Brighton residents over the years but can’t afford as a company to have staff sitting there doing nothing if the contracts aren’t there!!

See you all on the 06:00 from Brighton to London Bridge!!

EX FISH, london says...
3:19pm Tue 17 Jul 07

it makes me mad that so many people will loose a their job. . you would think thT INKFISH GROUP WOULD BE A L,OT MORE UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE FAMILYS IN BRIGHTON AND HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND NEW JOBS.
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EcoRepairMan, Brighton says...
3:19pm Tue 17 Jul 07

Time To move on then Anne!!

I worked for Infish for a number of years and can say with all honestly that it was the people who worked there that made the job not the company.. to many Lions lead by so many Donkeys. In short Inkfish and D&G both knew that the Post Office Campaign would not last as long as expected and through a series of silly mistakes (and history repeating itself) the powers that be F*cked up again. I find it desgusting that a company that has the backing of D&G is willing to pull such a fast one on loyal and hard working employees, Hiding behind a TUPE is the easy way out and that is Inkfish's mantra. sorry i mean 'You can hear the smile' just a shame that this slogan is dead... if it ever was alive.

I wish you all well and hope that the media machine truly crush this situation and you all get paid what you are worth.

"Need and struggle are what excite and inspire us; our hour of triumph is what brings the void”

J*

VLR, Brighton says...
3:39pm Tue 17 Jul 07

Its not a matter of losing a contract being a fact of life, or redundancy for that matter. It's about this company being unable to show any compassion or understanding. Perhaps that is a fact of life also, but it doesn't mean people have to put up with it. It doesn't take a lot, when these managers are sitting in their meetings, for the m to decide NOT to screw people over. You know, for a change.

EcoRepairMan, Brighton says...
3:39pm Tue 17 Jul 07

The TMC is the union of choice. http://www.cwu.org/d
efault.asp?Step=4&pi
d=511

upset, brighton says...
3:55pm Tue 17 Jul 07

its more the callous way that we are expected to up and move to Northern Ireland or resign. That and the ongoing 'we will tell you more when we know it' b*ls*it we are being kept hanging with no end date in site.

Marwen, Brighton says...
4:06pm Tue 17 Jul 07

SHOCKING!!!!!!!!!!
I have worked there in the past and I must admit the best thing about inkfish is the people who work there...!! I am very sorry guys to hear this...!!
BUT, something have to be done!! I mean you cannot just simply expect them to move to N Ireland... this is unbelievable..!! am still shocked to say the least!!
God Bless...

EcoRepairMan, Brighton says...
4:13pm Tue 17 Jul 07

Im suprised you are all sooo down.... just get someone to buy a crate of beer.. Hand it out.

That used to work :)

Are Inkfish not obliged to provide a re-location package and accommadation for a set period of time? (i fully understand that this is not the move that people wish to take) Have they really just said; here is where you can work. Take it or leave it?

Chief, brighton says...
4:38pm Tue 17 Jul 07

the sooner that place closes the better. I'm suprised it hasnt relocated to India though. Gutted for the people who work there; but come on, you can do better. I did. Yet again the corporate dollar is more important than the welfare of actual human beings.

Ads, Brighton says...
4:42pm Tue 17 Jul 07

Inkfish believe the TUPE law applies, so objecting to the transfer would mean an automatic resignation forfeiting any redundancy payment. Speaking with ACAS I was informed that the transfer is unreasonable because of the distance and therefore would come under redundancy law. There really needs to be some clarification of wether this law applies, because if it does then it is undoubtably benefiting the employer forcing the employee into a seriously untenable position

VLR, Brighton says...
4:45pm Tue 17 Jul 07

Well we all know that this site is now at risk. Losing so much in one go. Two floors worth of staff and profit. Maybe the D&G warranty business is picking up. And its not just Brighton, its Nottingham too. I hear they are in a worse position because they have even less going on at their site. I say inundate them with complaints. Email complaints, verbal complaints, written complaints. Just keep on logging them until SOMEBODY gets a half decent response. Remember, it is our right to do it, and they deserve it.

Saddened, Brighton says...
4:51pm Tue 17 Jul 07

i still work there and it is tragic! there have been rumours about Post Office going for ages. To rub salt in the wound the company currently have a lorry touring the city advertising agents jobs on the AIG and Sky campaigns. my own department is currently training new staff. Staff can no longer access the post office floors unless they work for that campaign, it's like a prison camp. we have a new site manager who has made it clear that his aim is to reduce costs whatever it takes, everyone apart from the elite on the 5th floor are worried about their future. he has been sent there for a purpose and will achieve it at any cost, the top performing agents will not recieve a pay rise this year, the bottom of the letter that was sent out then stated that the company had a great year! good for them. hopefully people in Brighton will now see Inkfish for what they are, a cold, calculating machine that treats you poorly if you stay and even worse when THEY make you leave. THANKS BEN, IT'S BEEN GREAT KNOWING YOU.

BUZME, Brighton says...
4:58pm Tue 17 Jul 07

Yes its hard not to feel sorry for these poor people,yet again the money men win,and this Government helps them do it.Time for the working man and women,to fight back i think.

DAVID, Brighton ex Amex Employee says...
5:39pm Tue 17 Jul 07

STAGE A WALKOUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
ONE PERSON CANNOT ACHIEVE MUCH BUT ALL OF YOU TOGETHER CAN BRING INKFISH TO THIER KNEES. TAKE A LEAF OUT OF THE FRENCH WORKERS MANUAL AND TALK WITH YOUR FEET. IF PEOPLE DO NOT MAKE A STAND WHEN IT COUNTS THESE MONEY MAKING MACHINES WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIER EMPLOYEES FOR THE BENEFIT OF THIER SHAREHOLDERS.
MAKE A STAND NOW, BEFORE YOU MISS YOUR CHANCE!!!!

mmmmmmm, says...
5:46pm Tue 17 Jul 07

DAVID wrote:
STAGE A WALKOUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ONE PERSON CANNOT ACHIEVE MUCH BUT ALL OF YOU TOGETHER CAN BRING INKFISH TO THIER KNEES. TAKE A LEAF OUT OF THE FRENCH WORKERS MANUAL AND TALK WITH YOUR FEET. IF PEOPLE DO NOT MAKE A STAND WHEN IT COUNTS THESE MONEY MAKING MACHINES WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIER EMPLOYEES FOR THE BENEFIT OF THIER SHAREHOLDERS. MAKE A STAND NOW, BEFORE YOU MISS YOUR CHANCE!!!!
Then we would get sacked and gain nothing.

David John Hulatt, Brighton says...
6:50pm Tue 17 Jul 07

While I understand the business decision made by Post Office Home Phone, it is in my opinion typical of both Post Office Home Phone and Inkfish to not have throught through the transfer process. Change management isnt their strong point in the organisation. It appears that the process of transfer wasn't thought through and included in the contact between Inkfish and Royal Mail Holdings who run Post Office Home Phone.

If the parties don't get things clarified soon. The service to Post Office Home Phone customers will be effected of which many are elderly.

Transfer of employees to a company based so far away is impractical. So reduntancies will have to take place. I am sure some will transfers will take place. It would certainly be in the interests of the new company Stream to offer good deals to key employees either through relocation or consultancy contracts.

David John Hulatt, Inkfish employee on the Post Office Home Phone Campaign.

Saddened, Brighton says...
6:56pm Tue 17 Jul 07

Just seen the news item on 'South Today', it was very weak. This is not a story that is going to run. No doubt the management will all get a slap on the back (and a nice bonus) for dealing with a difficult situation so well, then all the staff who were 'disposed' of will soon be forgotten and the ones that are left will become even more down-trodden by the current regime because they will be so grateful to still have jobs. if it wasn't so disgraceful i would admire their nerve.

upset, brighton says...
6:59pm Tue 17 Jul 07

fair point david, the service provided will dip dramatically and with over 500,000 customers like you say many elderly this is not a well thought out transfer.

David, Brighton says...
7:03pm Tue 17 Jul 07

mmmmmmm wrote:
DAVID wrote: STAGE A WALKOUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ONE PERSON CANNOT ACHIEVE MUCH BUT ALL OF YOU TOGETHER CAN BRING INKFISH TO THIER KNEES. TAKE A LEAF OUT OF THE FRENCH WORKERS MANUAL AND TALK WITH YOUR FEET. IF PEOPLE DO NOT MAKE A STAND WHEN IT COUNTS THESE MONEY MAKING MACHINES WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIER EMPLOYEES FOR THE BENEFIT OF THIER SHAREHOLDERS. MAKE A STAND NOW, BEFORE YOU MISS YOUR CHANCE!!!!
Then we would get sacked and gain nothing.
Your going to get nothing anyway. At least this way you go on your terms and your conditions. Besides, you underestimate the damage it will do to Inkfish and thier beloved Post Office account. How long will the Post Office continue to use a company of such low morals after the inconvenience a walk out will cause them???

David, Brighton says...
7:06pm Tue 17 Jul 07

Are'nt you entitled to Benefits if you get Sacked?!?!?!?!?!?

R - 3rd, Brighton says...
7:21pm Tue 17 Jul 07

I work for Infish and I hope that the fat cats sleep a little uneasy in their beds tonight - thanks for the media pressure Argus, you may have aroused the smallest feelings of guilt in the power suits who are trying to screw us out of our redundancy - mind you, those fat cat coke parties don't come for free !

stevie, brighton says...
7:55pm Tue 17 Jul 07

why dont you all stop moaning. i bet most of you dont like your jobs anyway so this gives you the opportunity to do something that you want. It is not as if you are all highly paid city workers. You have been knowingly ripped off for years so stop moaning and go and et a better job.

peter, hove says...
7:59pm Tue 17 Jul 07

stage a walkout...what a good idea... and be in breach of your contract and sacked instantly...shrewd

john, hove says...
8:27pm Tue 17 Jul 07

if you want to hurt your company why not wait till payday then call in sick. i worked as cabin crew for ba a few years ago and this works. they cant prove you aren`t sick and you get to spend the day in bed. also means all the managers and manager wanabees get to do some work and cover you.

joanna, brighton says...
8:31pm Tue 17 Jul 07

stinkfish screws it staff, we got told to go on the phones today to help secure our jobs...so it is always done for our benefit, gee thanks guys.

upset, brighton says...
8:42pm Tue 17 Jul 07

David wrote:
Are'nt you entitled to Benefits if you get Sacked?!?!?!?!?!?
not if u get sacked or resign. if u are made redundant u can claim benefits and on any loan insurance.

That's why we would be less upset if they did the decent thing and gave us all redundancy.

And gave us a date for when this will come to a head.

upset, brighton says...
8:51pm Tue 17 Jul 07

stevie wrote:
why dont you all stop moaning. i bet most of you dont like your jobs anyway so this gives you the opportunity to do something that you want. It is not as if you are all highly paid city workers. You have been knowingly ripped off for years so stop moaning and go and et a better job.
There are people who may not be happy in their jobs, but it still pays the bills and being cut off with out redundancy pay wont do that.

It doesnt matter whether we are 'highly paid city workers' or not, we are still being treated shabbily.

And for your information, there are a lot of people that DO /did enjoy working there myself included. Since Post Office staff turnaround at Inkfish has dropped dramatically and it has provided a stable career for many people.

I'm glad your job is so secure and satisfies you so much though. Thanks for the support at what is a very stressful and upsetting time for us.

dolefish, not that stupid says...
8:57pm Tue 17 Jul 07

all been told posting on here could hurt the company's chance of getting new business so safe guarding our jobs- yeah right
probably will pay reducancy after all can't even communicate to there staff properly.
irony had a one to one coaching meeting after the meeting unfortunately manager wouldn't let me put in future development plans drunken despondency

Anon, Brighton says...
9:02pm Tue 17 Jul 07

Thanks to the Argus for their support! I currently work for the company and was really disappointed about the campaign closing and am shocked at the behavior if Inkfish which I stupidly assumed was a professional and "happening place" to work. As if it's not bad enough we don’t even know when it’s actually all happening! To walk out and make a stand would be great but we can’t help but feel that Inkfish would love this as it would be an easy way of getting rid of us! We are being trapped into a corner and feel powerless! I hope the big cheeses at the top feel proud of themselves and feel they've really achieved something, as long as they can pay for their over priced cars and houses. Oh, and me and a number of others found the hand outs of mugs and mouse mats to staff quoting "SPREAD THE WORD!" on them an insulting and pathetic attempt at morale boosting!

ex-worker, bton says...
9:37pm Tue 17 Jul 07

I used to work at Inkfish but am proud to say I dont anymore! There are oh so many reasons I left, including how unprofessional all the managers are there! They strut around thinking about how important they all are and how much they are doing for the company, but forget they are doing absolutely nothing for the staff that work there. The amount of money they earn for the jobs they do is ridiculous, especially when you see them having a social meeting whilst all the rest are working hard!
They pomise all this success which is never given, its just a way to keep you interested! They promote the people they like the most, not the people who have earned it.
They seem to be doing as little as they can get away with at the moment which I think to be disgusting! The best thing everyone can do is get out, maybe this is the kick up the a*se you all need!

Good riddens to bad rubbish!

bangwang, brighton says...
10:14pm Tue 17 Jul 07

well surprise surprise stinkfish peeps who read this may reconginise me as i used to work on pohp and in my opinion what a load of ****,this is by far the worst company i have worked for EVER the management have no idea of how to run a company they may as well all have there heads in the sand as they would prob do a better job that way... im not at all surprised that this has happened people used to talk to me about this over 6 months ago and now the day has come. well what a shoddy disgrace i do not personally see how the management can have the ordasity to tell employees that they will "help" where they can u'd be better getting a demented monkey to help u anyway i could go on all night about this matter all i have to say is AEISEL (american express insurance services europe lmited) u'll be much better off guys

lisa, brighton says...
10:30pm Tue 17 Jul 07

graham wrote:
So much for the postive news coverage the argus has given Inkfish over the last few months, making noises over its contribution to the local econonmy. Its clear the only way it was able to win contracts was to sell its workforce down the river. I suspect the senior staff will get bonuses just like they always do...
i currently work for inkfish and have done for the past year and a half...i have been screwed by inkfish more times than i can remember for the littlest of things ie losing a £180 silver adp bonus for not hitting stats set for someone who has been on a campaign 6 months when i have been on sky 1 months after being told i move from POHP back office given a day and a half notice or "resign"!! anyway thats beside the point i wish to say thanku for all the support and do have to say the one and only reason i have stayed at inkfish for so long is the people (well the majority of them) who i work with who make inkfish wot it is and dont deserve what is happening. i am shocked that i return from my lunch today only to find that BT wholesale have already started to transfer the accounts to their network!!! contory to reports advising we will be given sufficent notice looks as though this is again not the case and the loyal staff and i have to say managers as they are in the same sinking boat as us -get screwed AGAIN

RockyFish, Brighton says...
11:27pm Tue 17 Jul 07

the piece on the bbc news gave the impression that the whole call centre was moving to northern ireland! they obviously don't know the whole story. guess Inkfish got off lightly! has anyone asked the company why they are employing new staff at the moment? they have behaved so shabbily, very badly handled. who is in charge there?

NI ROCKS !, says...
11:29pm Tue 17 Jul 07

Count yer blessings and move to Norn Iron ! It's a fantastic, buzzy, lively place. GREAT atmosphere, wonderful people, great night life, and lifestyle.........hm

mmm, kinda reminds me of Brighton before the Londoners 'besieged'the place.

apjf, lewes says...
11:38pm Tue 17 Jul 07

i work at inkfish brigton on the sky campaign i feel for the people who are losing there jobs in the post office there has been word going around the building of job cuts for weeks so it is no suprise i would like to point out althought the post office is going INKFISH WILL REMAIN IN BRIGHTON as we still deal with other companys such as sky barcaleys and avon so INKFISH WILL BE IN BRIGHTON FOR MANY YEARS TO COME but my appologise go out to all those people who are losing there jobs inkfish are trying to keep staff as informed as they are so they get told thing when inkfish get told things

steve davis, brighton says...
11:59pm Tue 17 Jul 07

i gave in my notice the next day after. hearing the sad news. i not going to wait a round. in nfact i am moving out of brighton. no not n ireland but torqyay. my leaving do is a the pav tav 3.4.07 6pm

AC, says...
4:57am Wed 18 Jul 07

Inkfish suck. My gf used to work there There`s only one decent team leader on the sky campaign and the managers there are completely incompetent If you are ill or absent through no fault of your own or for even one day you are seen as unreliable. The job doesn`t even pay a living wage plus they kept screwing her wages up. I hope the people losing their jobs get new employment quickly and then see about taking them to industrial tribunals over the resignation thing as the distance disqualifies the company from invoking the TUPE regulations. Also with regard to unions, if the company won`t recognise the unions then the staff have to recruit amongst themselves (ie in the pub) and get 21 >>

AC, says...
5:03am Wed 18 Jul 07

>> or more people. Then union recognition is a legal right under Schedule 1 of the Employment Relations Act 1999.The union must have at least 10% of workers in membership of what is known as an appropriate "bargaining unit" and must show that the majority of mambers in the bargaining unit would be likely to favour recognition.
Also the shop steward cannot not be sacked in work time for doing his union duties either. So it might help to join cos then the company would have to listen and could get a more serious kick up the backside for not doing so

GB, Brighton says...
6:11am Wed 18 Jul 07

Boo-Hoo, For Years you Post Office people have behaved like your a cut above everybody else and act like your special. You all think that sales is below you and everything should be handed to you on a silver platter. Stop crying, and start looking for a job elsewhere - before the real scramble starts, because if you really think going to the Argus is going to do anything except p**s D&G/Inkfish off then i am afraid you are so very wrong. And the Union are just a load of leeches trying to sign you all up when your at a low point - they are no better than door to door salesmen ripping off grannies.

also you lot might want to check out:

http://www.jobcentre

plus.gov.uk/JCP/Cust

omers/WorkingAgeBene

fits/Jobseekerallowa

nce/index.html


malc, london says...
8:27am Wed 18 Jul 07

i used to work at inkfish i worked on credit ref.. and faults but even last year there was rumors that post office home phone was closing ,. the fact of the matter that inkfish should ensure that all its call agents get what is fair and right. dont go down with out a fight guys . im with you all the way. malc grenfell

Septicman, Central Brighton says...
8:40am Wed 18 Jul 07

This sort of thing can't come as any sort of surprise. These sorts of service jobs can be done anywhere with the cost and standards of modern communications being what they are. There are areas of the UK that traditionally suffer from high unemployment where you can pay minimum wages, employ smart people, get tax breaks as an employer, and receive all sorts of assistance in moving to a new location. I have said for a long time now that the council would be better off not spending huge sums of money on such things as the stadium, but using it to try and create a climate where employers are attracted to this area and to stay here. Unfortunately, we still have a bucket and spade economy here. For as long as we do, we will always come second best. The opportunity to earn real money here in Brighton is difficult so everyone says.... for as long as we continue to attract nothing other than coffee shops, restaurants and retail outlets, it will continue to be so.

mike, brighton says...
8:51am Wed 18 Jul 07

This serves all the Post Office darlings right....hardly any of you will lose your jobs but you may have to....whisper it quietly...work on the phones amd do some real work LIKE THE REST OF US

EcoRepairMan, Brighton says...
9:44am Wed 18 Jul 07

Mike that was a pointless statement. The people here have the right to air there veiws... so stop sucking up, you'll never make TL.


Harriet, Brighton says...
10:06am Wed 18 Jul 07

by pure coincidence...

http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/northern_irel
and/6904046.stm
'Software services provider Stream is to create 300 new jobs in Londonderry.'


mike, brighton says...
10:26am Wed 18 Jul 07

get a life ecorepairman, not the whole world wants to be a TL. Some people are happy on the phones and you and your PO buddies are going to have to like it or lump it.

EcoRepairMan, Brighton says...
11:11am Wed 18 Jul 07

I have a great life thanks, left Infish a while ago, I was afraid that it might make me bitter and twisted.... looks like i found my proof. I said earlier that its the people who made the job.. Not you though.

Anonymous Agent, says...
11:25am Wed 18 Jul 07

I currently work for Inkfish and feel that all these comments are simply people who left on bad terms (or currently hold some sort of grievance) with Inkfish.
I have worked on several campaigns for a number of years and have been treated with great respect and understanding by the company. All the stuff get a LOT more support and help than most places I've worked for. It is unfortunate that the company has lost a big client but it is not Inkfish's fault. These things happen and it shouldn't be an excuse for miserable people to vent their anger onto the company. I am NOT a senior member of management so I have worked on the phones for a long time and couldn't be happier with the way that the company has treated me and my fellow collegues. The company provides many incentives to keep morale high (which many other companies do not provide) and the atmosphere is fun, light-hearted and very enjoyable. The management do not treat the agents any differently from each other. It is the people who are consistantly late, absent or failing quality requirement who end up disliking the company...which in my opinion is childish. And if someone is not happy with the amount of money being earned there, they need to remind themself that it is a telesales job at the end of the day and no one is forcing them to work there. The company management does its best to keep people happy, entertained and rewarded for their hard work and most people who work there will agree.

Again, isn't it a coinsidence that most of the negative comments above are people who have left inkfish.

I will rest my case but I seriously think that you should stop venting your anger on the company and find a job that you enjoy doing.
I thoroughly enjoy working for Inkfish and plan to remain there as long as I can.

Another Anon Agent, brighton says...
11:31am Wed 18 Jul 07

Re: Anon Agent

Hear, hear, some common sense at last !!!

Mr Man, Brighton says...
12:36pm Wed 18 Jul 07

What a load of wasted energy. This is the 21st Century. A job is not for life anymore. Many of these comments refer to employees not being happy in the first place. Take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming others. This has happened, deal with it, learn from it and move on.

JC, Brighton says...
1:31pm Wed 18 Jul 07

Mr Man wrote:
What a load of wasted energy. This is the 21st Century. A job is not for life anymore. Many of these comments refer to employees not being happy in the first place. Take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming others. This has happened, deal with it, learn from it and move on.
I feel that we have diverted of topic. Mr Man there is some truth to what you say, however there still is a gross violation of employment laws here. regardless of wether or not you are in love with inkfish, these employees are still in the throws of being treated unfairly. This Has Not Happened yet, there is nothing to deal with until Infish make the correct choices, and i am sure that all involved wish to move on as rapidly as possible. Inkfish should never had made public there decision until they were fully aware of the outcomes. I am sure that given more time they will pay what is duely owed and that people will not have to relocate to Eire. I worked on Post Office and was in fact there from day one, it was a fun and vibrant campaign, saying that it was also a very hard campaign to manage and control. personally i blame Servista for the whole thing!

upset, brighton says...
1:54pm Wed 18 Jul 07

Anonymous Agent wrote:
I currently work for Inkfish and feel that all these comments are simply people who left on bad terms (or currently hold some sort of grievance) with Inkfish. I have worked on several campaigns for a number of years and have been treated with great respect and understanding by the company. All the stuff get a LOT more support and help than most places I've worked for. It is unfortunate that the company has lost a big client but it is not Inkfish's fault. These things happen and it shouldn't be an excuse for miserable people to vent their anger onto the company. I am NOT a senior member of management so I have worked on the phones for a long time and couldn't be happier with the way that the company has treated me and my fellow collegues. The company provides many incentives to keep morale high (which many other companies do not provide) and the atmosphere is fun, light-hearted and very enjoyable. The management do not treat the agents any differently from each other. It is the people who are consistantly late, absent or failing quality requirement who end up disliking the company...which in my opinion is childish. And if someone is not happy with the amount of money being earned there, they need to remind themself that it is a telesales job at the end of the day and no one is forcing them to work there. The company management does its best to keep people happy, entertained and rewarded for their hard work and most people who work there will agree. Again, isn't it a coinsidence that most of the negative comments above are people who have left inkfish. I will rest my case but I seriously think that you should stop venting your anger on the company and find a job that you enjoy doing. I thoroughly enjoy working for Inkfish and plan to remain there as long as I can.
I do enjoy my job and I am good at it, and I am still working here, so I think your comments are a pile of c*ap.

Most of us are more concerned about how this has been handled with no concern for peoples feelings, and poor communications.

Not issues with the company in general!

dave, brighton says...
2:33pm Wed 18 Jul 07

'Anonymous Agent'your message is a plant from Inkfish management! I can tell from your writing style.

To the rest of you employees, past and present, I hope you find better and somewhere you are valued more.

Alex, Brighton says...
2:43pm Wed 18 Jul 07

If the post office have decided to relocate its campaign there is not much from a company point of view that inkfish could do about it, they also would not have been given that much notice themselves!
Such are the pitfalls of working in telesales, certainly from a client/company point of view, one that agents are not often faced with. Agents work for inkfish not the post office
Im sure inkfish will end up relocating all of the said employees throughout other campaigns as the turnover rates for staff in telesales is phenomenal compared to other buisinesses anyway.
This is not the end of the world for these workers, just the start of a new campaign and im sure this is what most are miffed about because I have it on good authority that the post office campaign certainly was the 'cushty' option for inkfish staff! Moreover if this is such an issue with the said employees a change of career is apt as the constant ups and downs of telesales seem not to suit.

schmeikel, derry says...
2:46pm Wed 18 Jul 07

nick+hood the monkeys and flog them on ebay-might get a few quid. one fat manager for 25sheet-thas a night in the bar....flava!

mike, brighton says...
2:59pm Wed 18 Jul 07

Alex wrote:
If the post office have decided to relocate its campaign there is not much from a company point of view that inkfish could do about it, they also would not have been given that much notice themselves! Such are the pitfalls of working in telesales, certainly from a client/company point of view, one that agents are not often faced with. Agents work for inkfish not the post office Im sure inkfish will end up relocating all of the said employees throughout other campaigns as the turnover rates for staff in telesales is phenomenal compared to other buisinesses anyway. This is not the end of the world for these workers, just the start of a new campaign and im sure this is what most are miffed about because I have it on good authority that the post office campaign certainly was the 'cushty' option for inkfish staff! Moreover if this is such an issue with the said employees a change of career is apt as the constant ups and downs of telesales seem not to suit.
well put.. the easy life is coming to an end for some...the bottom line is that some agents are going to have to change departments....sound
s like a terrible hardship.

clifford thomas, worthing says...
3:11pm Wed 18 Jul 07

I am sorry to see this happening to so many well trained people. my company bdc is looking for 10 people with telemarketing and management experience. call me on 01903821950. I hope I can be of some help to some

tc, brighton says...
4:03pm Wed 18 Jul 07

I just cannot believe that Inkgish have , yet again, got away with mistreating its staff - I used to be a recrutiement consultant(don't aht me!0 and supplied templ staff to Inkfish, Telegen & TTMC: what-a-nightmare. at the time , about 5 years ago, most people walked out after a few weeks as they felt, quite rightly, that they were being mistreated:

In my view - Call centre staff are used as cannon fodder (and I have worked in several myself, including amex, Telegen, Lloyds) Something needs to be done to protect people from employers treating them with such contempt. they want so much and offer very little in retunr. I feel for all you guys. Keep the faith and go to TTMC!

JC, Brighton says...
4:12pm Wed 18 Jul 07

tc wrote:
I just cannot believe that Inkgish have , yet again, got away with mistreating its staff - I used to be a recrutiement consultant(don't aht me!0 and supplied templ staff to Inkfish, Telegen & TTMC: what-a-nightmare. at the time , about 5 years ago, most people walked out after a few weeks as they felt, quite rightly, that they were being mistreated: In my view - Call centre staff are used as cannon fodder (and I have worked in several myself, including amex, Telegen, Lloyds) Something needs to be done to protect people from employers treating them with such contempt. they want so much and offer very little in retunr. I feel for all you guys. Keep the faith and go to TTMC!
Well if that is not a blatant plug then i don't know what is. At the end of the day you make the job what it is, Inkfish is by no means perfect but it has a competant HR department and does 90% of the time have the best interest of its staff at heart. The fact is only how the current situation has been handled. This is not Inkfish 'Mistreating' it's staff, its a massive blunder that someone leaked information without truly thinking first. People love drama, and although this is a time of crisis for many PO employees, i think that you and i know that they will do what is right.

tc, brighton says...
4:21pm Wed 18 Jul 07

GB wrote:
Boo-Hoo, For Years you Post Office people have behaved like your a cut above everybody else and act like your special. You all think that sales is below you and everything should be handed to you on a silver platter. Stop crying, and start looking for a job elsewhere - before the real scramble starts, because if you really think going to the Argus is going to do anything except p**s D&G/Inkfish off then i am afraid you are so very wrong. And the Union are just a load of leeches trying to sign you all up when your at a low point - they are no better than door to door salesmen ripping off grannies. also you lot might want to check out: http://www.jobcentre plus.gov.uk/JCP/Cust omers/WorkingAgeBene fits/Jobseekerallowa nce/index.html
Muppet -

Have a heart man

tc, brighton says...
4:27pm Wed 18 Jul 07

JC wrote:
tc wrote: I just cannot believe that Inkgish have , yet again, got away with mistreating its staff - I used to be a recrutiement consultant(don't aht me!0 and supplied templ staff to Inkfish, Telegen & TTMC: what-a-nightmare. at the time , about 5 years ago, most people walked out after a few weeks as they felt, quite rightly, that they were being mistreated: In my view - Call centre staff are used as cannon fodder (and I have worked in several myself, including amex, Telegen, Lloyds) Something needs to be done to protect people from employers treating them with such contempt. they want so much and offer very little in retunr. I feel for all you guys. Keep the faith and go to TTMC!
Well if that is not a blatant plug then i don't know what is. At the end of the day you make the job what it is, Inkfish is by no means perfect but it has a competant HR department and does 90% of the time have the best interest of its staff at heart. The fact is only how the current situation has been handled. This is not Inkfish 'Mistreating' it's staff, its a massive blunder that someone leaked information without truly thinking first. People love drama, and although this is a time of crisis for many PO employees, i think that you and i know that they will do what is right.
sorry - what am I plugging? -

I no longer work in recruitment - but when I did, the VAST majority of the issues that I had to deal wiht were staff being mistreated by companies such as Inkfish.

not plugging anything here my friend

crappy, brighton says...
4:33pm Wed 18 Jul 07

quote
including how unprofessional all the managers are there! They strut around thinking about how important they all are and how much they are doing for the company, but forget they are doing absolutely nothing for the staff that work there. The amount of money they earn for the jobs they do is ridiculous, especially when you see them having a social meeting whilst all the rest are working hard!

These wouldnt be ex Amex managers would they as its the same there.

This is the way the world is going, AMEX SLOGAN IS "IF YOU DONT LIKE IT THEN LEAVE" Most probably what Inkfish management say as well.

To all you people who will be fired view this as a new oppertunity to do what you have always dreamt about. Also i feel you must have some redress through legal channels you should all get together and fight this. If you dont stand up and at least frighten the pants off these gutless managers, It wont be too long before it affects many many more people throughout the GB.

Good luck people in what you all do. those of you left working for this crappy company make plans to leave as theres no guantees they are not about to lose another campaign, of course they will never tell you these companys all lie to thier employees. and to people who say they dont care well no they dont its all about the money.

JC, says...
4:35pm Wed 18 Jul 07

view - Call centre staff are used as cannon fodder (and I have worked in several myself, including amex, Telegen, Lloyds) Something needs to be done to protect people from employers treating them with such contempt. they want so much and offer very little in retunr. I feel for all you guys. Keep the faith and go to TTMC!


First you seem to be saying how Call Centre staff are used for cannon fodder, and yet you finish up advising people to go and work at the Telemarketing Company. (TTMC)

But once again it's not really about Inkfish 'Mistreating' it's staff... if that is really the case, it's about this CURRENT situation. You cannont please all the people all the time.

A mistake was made, and i am **** sure that the internal meetings going on inside Inkfish over the last 24 hours are doing what they can to a)place a lid on this due to damage limitation, as this is potentially damaging for new business and b) keeping the staff from taking legal action.



Patrick, Brighton says...
4:57pm Wed 18 Jul 07

bangwang wrote:
well surprise surprise stinkfish peeps who read this may reconginise me as i used to work on pohp and in my opinion what a load of ****,this is by far the worst company i have worked for EVER the management have no idea of how to run a company they may as well all have there heads in the sand as they would prob do a better job that way... im not at all surprised that this has happened people used to talk to me about this over 6 months ago and now the day has come. well what a shoddy disgrace i do not personally see how the management can have the ordasity to tell employees that they will \"help\" where they can u\'d be better getting a demented monkey to help u anyway i could go on all night about this matter all i have to say is AEISEL (american express insurance services europe lmited) u\'ll be much better off guys
I'd be more impressed with most of all your rantings if any of you could write correct English. If these are the standards you employed whilst working, no wonder Inkfish lost the contract.

tc, brighton says...
5:01pm Wed 18 Jul 07

JC wrote:
view - Call centre staff are used as cannon fodder (and I have worked in several myself, including amex, Telegen, Lloyds) Something needs to be done to protect people from employers treating them with such contempt. they want so much and offer very little in retunr. I feel for all you guys. Keep the faith and go to TTMC! First you seem to be saying how Call Centre staff are used for cannon fodder, and yet you finish up advising people to go and work at the Telemarketing Company. (TTMC) But once again it's not really about Inkfish 'Mistreating' it's staff... if that is really the case, it's about this CURRENT situation. You cannont please all the people all the time. A mistake was made, and i am **** sure that the internal meetings going on inside Inkfish over the last 24 hours are doing what they can to a)place a lid on this due to damage limitation, as this is potentially damaging for new business and b) keeping the staff from taking legal action.
TTMC treat people a litte more like "people" which is why I would (STILL) recommend them, and I'm not even getting a commision!

mmmmmmm, says...
5:04pm Wed 18 Jul 07

I wonder were these pro Inkfish comments are coming from. Its not just about losing jobs its about losing employment rights that are being abused. Maybe when you find yourself in the same situation regardless of were you work you will appreciate the hardships decent people face at this time.

GB, Brighton says...
5:19pm Wed 18 Jul 07

tc wrote:
GB wrote: Boo-Hoo, For Years you Post Office people have behaved like your a cut above everybody else and act like your special. You all think that sales is below you and everything should be handed to you on a silver platter. Stop crying, and start looking for a job elsewhere - before the real scramble starts, because if you really think going to the Argus is going to do anything except p**s D&G/Inkfish off then i am afraid you are so very wrong. And the Union are just a load of leeches trying to sign you all up when your at a low point - they are no better than door to door salesmen ripping off grannies. also you lot might want to check out: http://www.jobcentre plus.gov.uk/JCP/Cust omers/WorkingAgeBene fits/Jobseekerallowa nce/index.html
Muppet - Have a heart man
I'm a muppet? your the loser trying to get staff for "TTMC" you are wasting your breath because this bunch of idiots dont like calling people, they will only work if people call them. theyre lazy, useless scum which is why PO moved its business to BT who are just scum.

Don't try and tell me what to do and P**s off back to your dark dingy basement

Stinkfish Suck, says...
5:21pm Wed 18 Jul 07

Anonymous Agent wrote:
I currently work for Inkfish and feel that all these comments are simply people who left on bad terms (or currently hold some sort of grievance) with Inkfish. I have worked on several campaigns for a number of years and have been treated with great respect and understanding by the company. All the stuff get a LOT more support and help than most places I've worked for. It is unfortunate that the company has lost a big client but it is not Inkfish's fault. These things happen and it shouldn't be an excuse for miserable people to vent their anger onto the company. I am NOT a senior member of management so I have worked on the phones for a long time and couldn't be happier with the way that the company has treated me and my fellow collegues. The company provides many incentives to keep morale high (which many other companies do not provide) and the atmosphere is fun, light-hearted and very enjoyable. The management do not treat the agents any differently from each other. It is the people who are consistantly late, absent or failing quality requirement who end up disliking the company...which in my opinion is childish. And if someone is not happy with the amount of money being earned there, they need to remind themself that it is a telesales job at the end of the day and no one is forcing them to work there. The company management does its best to keep people happy, entertained and rewarded for their hard work and most people who work there will agree. Again, isn't it a coinsidence that most of the negative comments above are people who have left inkfish. I will rest my case but I seriously think that you should stop venting your anger on the company and find a job that you enjoy doing. I thoroughly enjoy working for Inkfish and plan to remain there as long as I can.
I have never worked for Inkfish, and never will. I refuse to work in Sales anyway, however "exciting an opportunity" is. Full of BS managers. I`m told there`s just one decent team leader on the Sky floor. Inkfish should treat their workers in line with Employment law and not twist it to avoid shelling out redundancy payments just so the management can have champagne when they backslap themselves for inflicting another load of slave labour on Brighton and Hove on one hand and a load of people who find themselves out of a job because they wouldn`t(or couldn`t) move just for some jumped up tin pot company`s convenience.
I think you are deluded if you think they are any good to work for, not to mention afraid to find a job at a real company that`ll pay more than just the minimum wage and find excuses not to pay bonuses.
Maybe you do enjoy telesales which is fair enough, although you`re much better off working somewhere like Pure associates. Much better money at a company who will treat you much much better (no I don`t work for them either)

Ringmer Rover, Ringmer says...
5:44pm Wed 18 Jul 07

Call centre work is ultimately soul-destroying and you are only as good as your last performance review - or apparently not even that in Inkfish's case. Sometimes you need a push to get out of a dead-end job; it may seem harsh but whatever job you take to get out of such a pressurised and unnatural environment has to be better than sticking with it and hoping for the best. I speak as someone who wasted ten years of his life working in a BT call centre; being made redundant (proper legally paid redundancy I admit)and moving to a real job was the best thing that ever happened in my working life. Courage, everyone - there is life after call centres.

Randstad Work Solutions, Brighton says...
6:25pm Wed 18 Jul 07

I am sorry to hear so many of you are in this sensitive situation, we are an agency based opposite Inkfish (above Costa Coffee) and we currently have a few roles that require telesales experience so please feel free to pop in with your CV to see if we can be of assistance to you.

BN, lewes says...
7:00pm Wed 18 Jul 07

i'm sorry for all those i used to work with and i agree it's unreasonable expecting people to relocate to NI, but the simple fact is that even with all the banter about being exploited by the company, if most people are honest with themselves and have worked for more than 1 company, they'll realise it's actually a bit of a comfort trap. i was well aware that it wasn't exactly a high status job, but i was there to pay the bills and as long as you can bring yourself to just get on with the tasks you're there to do it's basically pretty hassle free, as for the bonuses, i made sure i got mine every month. the main demotivating factor in working on the campaign was the constant negativity from some of the people who worked around me to the point that i asked to move teams. there were too many people with a negative moaning mindset and there was a lot of playground style b****ing, often from people who'd been there for years, to the point where you'd feel like telling people to just shut up sometimes. admittedly the job could be stressful depending on what sort of calls you were getting, but hearing the whole moaning victim thing all the time made things a lot worse. there's no need to feel exploited as you can always do that sort of work somewhere else, why work in the same place for so long if it makes you unhappy all the time as you can leave of your own free will and in the long run you'll find you were glad you did. it's not forced labour.

Anon, Brighton says...
7:01pm Wed 18 Jul 07

I work for the POHP and Inkfish have announced some sort of redundancy for us today. Not that it matters, 3 years of loyal service and I get f*** all. True, this is the sort of push I need to get a better job, but current employees, especially the ones who have been there a while, are been left in the dark and feeling as expendable as the new guys they have just hired. Its not a nice feeling at all.

It's not all Inkfish's fault I have to say, this is just another brilliant decision by the selfish and poorly run Post Office. Now I know how most of customers feel.

mmmmmmm, says...
8:07pm Wed 18 Jul 07

Really to be honest Po moved their campaign and they have a right to do so . What Inkfish are doing is put everyone who works for PO campaign in a bracket were they get rid of long term contracts and ship them to Northern Ireland while replacing them with staff on temporary contracts ( they are still recruiting). So the company in Northern Ireland are given staff they dont really want and we are given a company we dont want and Inkfish dont have to pay a bean or worry about their staff what so ever. So what if you moan about your job im sure everyone does but it pays bills and rent. What we are seeing is a life with no benefits no way to pay bills or rent is this really 2007.

Marc Lloyd, BN3 says...
10:32pm Wed 18 Jul 07

graham wrote:
So much for the postive news coverage the argus has given Inkfish over the last few months, making noises over its contribution to the local econonmy. Its clear the only way it was able to win contracts was to sell its workforce down the river. I suspect the senior staff will get bonuses just like they always do...
I'm so very dismayed by most of the comments here. I have just finished working for Inkfish for the past 18 Months and I found the company to be progressive and without doubt the most Agent focused Call Centre based organisation I have had the pleasure to work for. They have a cutting edge Training & Development Programme, which I hasten to add cannot be matched by most similar organisations! All new staff are nurtured through a 3-4 week Induction-Developmen
t Programme with intensive training and once the Agent is qualified there are equally impressive succession programmes for them to progress their careers.

It's unfortunate that Post Office have moved the contract and that it effects a large proportion of staff, it's also unfortunate that disgruntled employees have chosen to air their views to an ever eager local journalistic institution.

All those effected have a right to feel hurt by this decision, and I hasten to add a decision made SOLELY by the Post Office, however, all those who have commented in an unbelievably negative and sadistic fashion have obviously never been through the TUPE (Transfer of Undertakings) process. It's a legal framework put in place by the government with full support of the unions to ensure that employees are treated fairly in these kinds of regrettable outcomes.

TUPE can take months and presents with Management with a Legal Minefield, designed to BENEFIT the Employee and NOT hinder them in any way.

The management are currently working very hard to ensure staff are treated fairly, they have to ciontinue to hire staff onto this campaign as the TUPE regulations DEMAND that the processing of the work continues in an orderly fashion until such time as all points are in place to move the work with minimum effect to staff. The law does not demand of a company that it should provide redundancy payments to staff... it is merely a guidline and as suck Inkfish are actually going above and beyound the call of duty in providing redundancy of any kind.

So... before anymore discgruntled ex-employees decide to vent their anger at a company who's HR Policy is to go above and beyond in it's defence of employees rights, perhaps they will read the above and take stock of what is in actuality one of the fairest and competant Call Centre Oragnisations on the south coast!

mmmmmmm, says...
11:00pm Wed 18 Jul 07

Marc Lloyd wrote:
graham wrote: So much for the postive news coverage the argus has given Inkfish over the last few months, making noises over its contribution to the local econonmy. Its clear the only way it was able to win contracts was to sell its workforce down the river. I suspect the senior staff will get bonuses just like they always do...
I\'m so very dismayed by most of the comments here. I have just finished working for Inkfish for the past 18 Months and I found the company to be progressive and without doubt the most Agent focused Call Centre based organisation I have had the pleasure to work for. They have a cutting edge Training & Development Programme, which I hasten to add cannot be matched by most similar organisations! All new staff are nurtured through a 3-4 week Induction-Developmen t Programme with intensive training and once the Agent is qualified there are equally impressive succession programmes for them to progress their careers. It\'s unfortunate that Post Office have moved the contract and that it effects a large proportion of staff, it\'s also unfortunate that disgruntled employees have chosen to air their views to an ever eager local journalistic institution. All those effected have a right to feel hurt by this decision, and I hasten to add a decision made SOLELY by the Post Office, however, all those who have commented in an unbelievably negative and sadistic fashion have obviously never been through the TUPE (Transfer of Undertakings) process. It\'s a legal framework put in place by the government with full support of the unions to ensure that employees are treated fairly in these kinds of regrettable outcomes. TUPE can take months and presents with Management with a Legal Minefield, designed to BENEFIT the Employee and NOT hinder them in any way. The management are currently working very hard to ensure staff are treated fairly, they have to ciontinue to hire staff onto this campaign as the TUPE regulations DEMAND that the processing of the work continues in an orderly fashion until such time as all points are in place to move the work with minimum effect to staff. The law does not demand of a company that it should provide redundancy payments to staff... it is merely a guidline and as suck Inkfish are actually going above and beyound the call of duty in providing redundancy of any kind. So... before anymore discgruntled ex-employees decide to vent their anger at a company who\'s HR Policy is to go above and beyond in it\'s defence of employees rights, perhaps they will read the above and take stock of what is in actuality one of the fairest and competant Call Centre Oragnisations on the south coast!
Welcome HR to the message board.Ha ha the fairest and most competant call centres ever I dont think. Only fair Inkfish get a reply but bloody hell are you stupid ask anyone that works there plenty of people outside, they will tell you what they think. As for TUPE may well be in the best interest of workers if in the region but Northern Island!!!!! hey Marc why dont you move there

mmmmmmm, says...
11:06pm Wed 18 Jul 07

Sorry i did mean Ireland im not that familiar.

Tired, Brighton says...
11:11pm Wed 18 Jul 07

i have worked there for 3yrs and at 1st yes there were incentives and it was fun, but not anymore so i would like to know what incentives some of you are getting because they are not being spread around. i haven't even had a 1 to 1 for 6mths. it is just a job. now the company itself is floundering. there is no strong management just backroom boys and emails from upstairs. it lacks leadership. all of these messages have gone off the point of how badly the whole situation has been handled. if agents on POHP feel they dont know much detail then agents in the rest of the building know even less so are left to worry about their own jobs. there has not even been an 'all user' email explaining the situation. fortunatly there are some good T/L's who do care, i feel sorry for them to being left to answer difficult questions. good luck everyone and as a wise man once said 'get back on the phone please!'

mmmmmmm, says...
11:39pm Wed 18 Jul 07

ok walking out without warning will give you the sack so no option. The best way is to raise a grievence against Inkfish against unfair dismisal then when they make excuses about that you then go to ACAS or similar who will fight for your rights and give total backing. Dont get meetings we had with management who all they advised was TUPE applies and turn your attention to stream as they owe us redundancy. I DONT THINK SO NEVER MET THEM probably nice people but we dont work for them. And as for the warnings about going to the press and news etc because it will ruin business YOU DONE THAT SO SORT IT! you took 2 prospective contracts on to two floors where walk outs threatened, press news all over town and tv news I dont think so.

mmmmmmm, says...
12:01am Thu 19 Jul 07

(corr) I DONT THINK SO NEVER MET THEM (but pay us redundancy please cos they wont cos they are wankers)

Randstad Work Solutions, Brighton ( above Costa Coffee) says...
10:50am Thu 19 Jul 07

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dolefish, not telling says...
11:25am Thu 19 Jul 07

its not so much the contract closing. If the management had gone the contracts closing you'll be losing your jobs thouse we can't redploy will get redunancy people would have been upset but life moves on.
it was your options move to NI or resign that got everybody's backs up.
seems somebodys going to pay redundacy after all should have waited tillthat waas
sorted.
mike we all know you smell of wee anyway

Alex, says...
11:32am Thu 19 Jul 07

I'm so very dismayed by most of the comments here. I have just finished working for Inkfish for the past 18 Months and I found the company to be progressive and without doubt the most Agent focused Call Centre based organisation I have had the pleasure to work for. They have a cutting edge Training & Development Programme, which I hasten to add cannot be matched by most similar organisations! All new staff are nurtured through a 3-4 week Induction-Developmen

t Programme with intensive training and once the Agent is qualified there are equally impressive succession programmes for them to progress their careers.

It's unfortunate that Post Office have moved the contract and that it effects a large proportion of staff, it's also unfortunate that disgruntled employees have chosen to air their views to an ever eager local journalistic institution.

All those effected have a right to feel hurt by this decision, and I hasten to add a decision made SOLELY by the Post Office, however, all those who have commented in an unbelievably negative and sadistic fashion have obviously never been through the TUPE (Transfer of Undertakings) process. It's a legal framework put in place by the government with full support of the unions to ensure that employees are treated fairly in these kinds of regrettable outcomes.

TUPE can take months and presents with Management with a Legal Minefield, designed to BENEFIT the Employee and NOT hinder them in any way.

The management are currently working very hard to ensure staff are treated fairly, they have to ciontinue to hire staff onto this campaign as the TUPE regulations DEMAND that the processing of the work continues in an orderly fashion until such time as all points are in place to move the work with minimum effect to staff. The law does not demand of a company that it should provide redundancy payments to staff... it is merely a guidline and as suck Inkfish are actually going above and beyound the call of duty in providing redundancy of any kind.

So... before anymore discgruntled ex-employees decide to vent their anger at a company who's HR Policy is to go above and beyond in it's defence of employees rights, perhaps they will read the above and take stock of what is in actuality one of the fairest and competant Call Centre Oragnisations on the south coast!


Whatever. I still say they suck, and I`ve never worked for them.
People go there to pay bills while searching for jobs not to make a life`s career.

VLR, Brighton says...
12:34pm Thu 19 Jul 07

I have to say that the people who feel this an incompetant and scheming company far out-number those who feel it is a good place to work. Just remember that everyone had said something good about it were accused of being HR! (Us inkfisher are highly suspicious of "the company" and we also find it hard to believe that anyone would like it there) I know for a fact that management have a lot of underhand tactics in dealing with agents (delaying ADP progression, taking away their systems access, 'losing incentive budgets') I also know for a fact that managment are aware of situations long before us and sit around the boardroom table in their big cheese chairs eating pret-a-manger sandwich whilst discussing how to save thier own arses. Heaven forefend that their meetings included sorting out how to help loyal employees. I wonder where the site manager was when the staff were first told of their fate? Hmmmm... Oh yes that's right, he was on a yacht gliding up the Thames drinking champers. What a stressful time for him. This company really and truely does have "how to screw over our staff" meetings. Except they call it lunch. And we all know why certain people get promoted and favoured don't we?

In The Know, Brighton says...
12:56pm Thu 19 Jul 07

Inkfish will get fined if they dont keep up its service level agreement with PO for the last few weeks, similarly the companies currently recruiting expect Inkfish to ramp-up to the agreed capacity in the agreed time. Therefore the company (not wanting to harm itself in anyway) are not offering the posistions to the PO staff about to be jobless. This would mean they don't hit targets on the campaign. Also they cannot hold out on the recruitment until PO closes as this will mean they are not providing the FTE they promised to the other campaigns. Now if that doesn't prove they are looking out for themselves at the expense of others, nothing will.

Alan, Brighton says...
1:07pm Thu 19 Jul 07

I saw the unfortunate news on the front page and it's a shame to see so many job losses in Brighton. as an impartial however, i have to say there seems to be a bit of an ugly blame game going on with some of these comments. it seems the key business facts are being forgotten along the way. with reference to some of the comments and accusations made about the managers here, surely if a campaign of 300 staff is leaving a company does that not also mean that managers will be losing their jobs and income too? if so, perhaps some of these remarks are unfair and insensitive considering they are also faced with the prospect of unemployment, paid redundancy or otherwise.

VLR, Brighton says...
1:14pm Thu 19 Jul 07

When I refer to managers (I can only speak for myself) I mean those who are attached to HR and Training. These people are safe as they are not part of the campaign. On the whole I have found TLs to be great to work for and I have just as much sympathy for them as I do for my fellow agents. I also know that any manager or trainer directly linked to PO has quietly been found another position within the building (at the expence of others, which I also happen to know for a fact). I feel it is the people high up in the company who are to blame for the bad treatment of agents and the bad decisions.

I Laughed, far too much says...
2:10pm Thu 19 Jul 07

*wipes tears from eyes...* a direct grab from the Inkfish website...

Maybe someone wants to update the news section too as its lacking recent events.




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Assia, Hove says...
3:36pm Thu 19 Jul 07

I just am surprised how many people this has affected, not just people who work there, but sympathetic fellow southerners and ex-employees. This company should thank its lucky stars if it gets out of this unscathed. Remember this may have a knock on affect to the rest of the building.

Niki, Worthing says...
4:02pm Thu 19 Jul 07

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Tired, Brighton says...
4:36pm Thu 19 Jul 07

i agree with the comments that it is a fact of life that this sort of thing can and does happen, it has happened. But EVERYONE within that building has a right to be informed of the situation as it stands and to be updated. it is not good enough to have to learn details in a forum like this or from gossip that filters thru. the reality of business is one thing but no one can justify the way this has been handled, so like it or not, the blame for employees frustration rests with the management

marc Lloyd, Brighton says...
6:21pm Thu 19 Jul 07

VLR... I have no issue in placing my name on this forum... how about you have the courage of your convictions and plce yours on here too?

As for people from HR & Training being "quietly placed in safe positions at the expense of others" this is utter rubbish. These people are not attached to the campaigns therefore their positions are safe anyway!

It's obvoius that you have had a long term grudge against a company that has given regular employment to 600 or so staff in brighton for 5 years... filling niche markets such as school leaver, students and parents. Doesn't anyone remember the recession... no work, no house, no money! C'mon buddy! Play the game!

mar lloyd, brighton says...
6:32pm Thu 19 Jul 07

mmmmmmm wrote:
Marc Lloyd wrote:
graham wrote: So much for the postive news coverage the argus has given Inkfish over the last few months, making noises over its contribution to the local econonmy. Its clear the only way it was able to win contracts was to sell its workforce down the river. I suspect the senior staff will get bonuses just like they always do...
I\\\'m so very dismayed by most of the comments here. I have just finished working for Inkfish for the past 18 Months and I found the company to be progressive and without doubt the most Agent focused Call Centre based organisation I have had the pleasure to work for. They have a cutting edge Training & Development Programme, which I hasten to add cannot be matched by most similar organisations! All new staff are nurtured through a 3-4 week Induction-Developmen t Programme with intensive training and once the Agent is qualified there are equally impressive succession programmes for them to progress their careers. It\\\'s unfortunate that Post Office have moved the contract and that it effects a large proportion of staff, it\\\'s also unfortunate that disgruntled employees have chosen to air their views to an ever eager local journalistic institution. All those effected have a right to feel hurt by this decision, and I hasten to add a decision made SOLELY by the Post Office, however, all those who have commented in an unbelievably negative and sadistic fashion have obviously never been through the TUPE (Transfer of Undertakings) process. It\\\'s a legal framework put in place by the government with full support of the unions to ensure that employees are treated fairly in these kinds of regrettable outcomes. TUPE can take months and presents with Management with a Legal Minefield, designed to BENEFIT the Employee and NOT hinder them in any way. The management are currently working very hard to ensure staff are treated fairly, they have to ciontinue to hire staff onto this campaign as the TUPE regulations DEMAND that the processing of the work continues in an orderly fashion until such time as all points are in place to move the work with minimum effect to staff. The law does not demand of a company that it should provide redundancy payments to staff... it is merely a guidline and as suck Inkfish are actually going above and beyound the call of duty in providing redundancy of any kind. So... before anymore discgruntled ex-employees decide to vent their anger at a company who\\\'s HR Policy is to go above and beyond in it\\\'s defence of employees rights, perhaps they will read the above and take stock of what is in actuality one of the fairest and competant Call Centre Oragnisations on the south coast!
Welcome HR to the message board.Ha ha the fairest and most competant call centres ever I dont think. Only fair Inkfish get a reply but bloody hell are you stupid ask anyone that works there plenty of people outside, they will tell you what they think. As for TUPE may well be in the best interest of workers if in the region but Northern Island!!!!! hey Marc why dont you move there
How very kind. If you had read my message thoroughly instead of taking a biased view you would have seen that I no longer work their and therefore represent my own opinions! Last time I checked there were seeral hundred people happy working their... you could work for Telegen for christ sake!

you know who, B-Town says...
7:21pm Thu 19 Jul 07

Jamie Rules and i am gonna find a new job i only enjoy working with the people and looking at the fit birds. stop screwing about on the argus website this ant gonna change sh*t. I do feel for you with rent, mortgage, kids but take it on the chin and pick up the argus on a thursday 300 jobs in there and quit inkifsh every 1 says they dont want to stay at inkfish for a career so sort it out Brap Brap

Greek, The big BRI says...
8:34pm Thu 19 Jul 07

keep the faith, dont worry be happy the sun is shining your TL loves you and if they dont I will ,much love thank you please:-)time for a holiday.

Sleazy, Bright Town says...
9:43pm Thu 19 Jul 07

Yeah, i have to say that when i worked at Inkfish i always had the carrot of possible promotion dangled in front of me, like some sort of weird donkey. By the time i left i had realised that in the eye's of my 'Superiors ' i was never quite 'Hip ' enough to join the higher ranks of power. I can't say that i hold any particular grudge against the place, but what's happened doesn't surprise me. Being owned by D&G, a major insurance company, they we're always going to be looking for the cheapest solution to any problem. They don't care two figs about their staff, or in my opinion, any of their clients, they simply yearn for the almighty dollar (dollar bill y'all). I do however seek solice in [karma. Karma's a fact (man) and what they have sown, so shall they reep. And i'll be laughing when they do. Until then all those who are loosing a job, do not fear. Take the excuse to try somthing you've always wanted to do. Good luck.

malc, london says...
8:50am Fri 20 Jul 07

ok guys lets move on now. it seems that ink fish bosses are just a watse of time . but there are some cool t.l tho . ie 4 floor lot.slap head . the mod. the mommy . so pick ur self up . dont go to the pub . go get ur life back

Ecorepairman, brighton says...
9:09am Fri 20 Jul 07

In The Know wrote:
Inkfish will get fined if they dont keep up its service level agreement with PO for the last few weeks, similarly the companies currently recruiting expect Inkfish to ramp-up to the agreed capacity in the agreed time. Therefore the company (not wanting to harm itself in anyway) are not offering the posistions to the PO staff about to be jobless. This would mean they don't hit targets on the campaign. Also they cannot hold out on the recruitment until PO closes as this will mean they are not providing the FTE they promised to the other campaigns. Now if that doesn't prove they are looking out for themselves at the expense of others, nothing will.
re: In the know

You clearly are not! You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I have never read such rubbish!

Back Office Bob, brighton says...
9:14am Fri 20 Jul 07

We've now been told that redundancy does apply which is great news... I know for a fact that management have been working around the clock to get this agreed with post office so i'd like to thank them for that. I think some of us on this board need to eat our words a bit

P.Doff, Brighton says...
10:38am Fri 20 Jul 07

The Agents and Team Leaders in Inkfish Brighton are NOT stupid but are certainly treated as such by 'the management'.
1) Inkfish do not care about their staff. Most of the negative stuff said here is absolutely true, I experienced it myself over a number of years. Anyone above Team Leader in the company seems to be part of an elite group, everyone else is seen as nothing more than a number.
2)The training department spend a lot of their time writing courses that have no impact whatsoever and are pretty much given free reign to do what they like and this doesn't include helping and supporting the people who need it.
3) If you work there, get out and work for a company that values you.

greek, The big BRI says...
11:17am Fri 20 Jul 07

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH give it a rest jesus the company is trying its best! Do yourself a favour Mr negative and take a walk down or the lift down to the 2nd floor today and see what Inkfish is all about,brilliant incentives, fun loving atmosphere and great managers!move on life is flying past you!!!!

VLR, Brighton says...
11:58am Fri 20 Jul 07

Everything I have said on here is fact, heard "out of the horses mouth" so to speak. Therefore I cannot say who I am. But I can say this, I am getting out of this company so fast you won't see me for dust, even though my job is safe. It is only a matter of time until it happens to everybody else. Also, what "In the know" said about not offering jobs to PO staff due to SLA's is also 100% true, I have heard this first hand from the people making the decisions. I do agree that people should get out there, get a better and more worthwhile job and pick themselves up. However I do not believe that Inkfish should be allowed to get away with this. Of course it will... But it should not.

marc lloyd, Brighton says...
2:55pm Fri 20 Jul 07

P.Doff wrote:
The Agents and Team Leaders in Inkfish Brighton are NOT stupid but are certainly treated as such by 'the management'. 1) Inkfish do not care about their staff. Most of the negative stuff said here is absolutely true, I experienced it myself over a number of years. Anyone above Team Leader in the company seems to be part of an elite group, everyone else is seen as nothing more than a number. 2)The training department spend a lot of their time writing courses that have no impact whatsoever and are pretty much given free reign to do what they like and this doesn't include helping and supporting the people who need it. 3) If you work there, get out and work for a company that values you.
Why sepend all this time complaining? Life is TOO short... if you don't/didn't like your job... why stay there? As for your comments re. Training, I pity you... evidently you didn't listen to the messages given to you or as is more probable, went into the session thinking "I wont get anything out of this" and therefore didn't! I pity you.

back office bob, brighton says...
4:23pm Fri 20 Jul 07

VLR wrote:
Everything I have said on here is fact, heard "out of the horses mouth" so to speak. Therefore I cannot say who I am. But I can say this, I am getting out of this company so fast you won't see me for dust, even though my job is safe. It is only a matter of time until it happens to everybody else. Also, what "In the know" said about not offering jobs to PO staff due to SLA's is also 100% true, I have heard this first hand from the people making the decisions. I do agree that people should get out there, get a better and more worthwhile job and pick themselves up. However I do not believe that Inkfish should be allowed to get away with this. Of course it will... But it should not.
VLR - You are totally wrong. If you have 'heard this' you have stupidly missunderstood what you heard. I suggest you move on - you are clearly ready for it. Vacate your job and leave it free for somebody who wants to actually work at it!

Mark, HOVE says...
7:31pm Fri 20 Jul 07

STRIKE STRIKE.

You guys cant seriously tell me that the threat of being fired seriously scares you? Where is your dignity and pride. Tell them to shove their £70 redundancy package and stage a mass walk out.

As while en mass walk directly to the main post office in the center of Brighton and lock it down!!!!!

Get some crusty's like socialist worker involved for good measure and you got a 1980's style DEMO.

That'll make national media news and look really bad for both companies.

When they sack you for walking out (which they wont) you'll be immediatly entitled to housing support + unemployment benefits. You got August coming, so enjoy summer.

Mark, Hove says...
7:36pm Fri 20 Jul 07

http://www.socialist
worker.co.uk/

Give these guys a call and have them crash the party - go out in style.

mmmmmmm, says...
10:07pm Fri 20 Jul 07

Bloody hell HAHA spot on.

Tired, Brighton says...
1:28pm Sat 21 Jul 07

Greek: the 2nd floor as we all know is Sky. the 'great incentives' do not come from Inkfish but sky themselves (and if you tell me they do then it is grossly unfair to every other campaign). other campaigns have no incentives budget at all, although some team-leaders do pay out themselves to motivate their agents. Sky is not representitive of the building

Interested, Brighton says...
3:12pm Wed 25 Jul 07

So..... whats going on? have inkfish changed their minds?

Can't stop chatting now... some of us are still interested. Have you all moved to ireland?

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