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One dead after horror crash

10:38am Saturday 9th February 2008

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A young man has died and three people remain in hospital after a horror crash in Whitehawk.

A police patrol car saw a Mazda containing three men and two women, believed to be teenagers, being driven erratically in Bevendean, Brighton, at 1am on Saturday and signalled it to stop.

The driver did not respond and following a pursuit crashed into a brick wall in Wilson Avenue, Brighton, and careered through two gardens.

One of the men has died and another remains in a critical condition. All five were taken to the Royal Sussex County hospital, where one has since been discharged.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission(IPCC) has launched an independent investigation into the crash and has deployed two investigators to the scene.

IPCC commissioner Tom Davies said: "My condolences go to the family and friends of the dead man.

"This must have been a traumatic incident for everybody involved, including the members of the emergency services who attended.

"The IPCC investigation will be independent and proportionate."

Sussex Police has arrested the driver of the car.

Formal identification has not yet taken place.

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bernie, brighton says...
11:31am Sat 9 Feb 08

if you play with fire you must expect to get burnt. i feel sorry for the people who have to deal with it.

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anna, marina says...
11:40am Sat 9 Feb 08

When will the police learn that giving chase is not the answer - is a conviction worth a life? I don't think so. Back off cops.

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Norman, Brighton says...
11:46am Sat 9 Feb 08

Nice one Anna, let the criminals rule the streets. Are you a complete idiot? When someone makes the decision to drive off from police they take responsibility for their life and of those inside the car. The driver has to live with killing his mate. The whole disaster is his fault.

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Numpty, Brighton says...
11:50am Sat 9 Feb 08

anna wrote:
<b> When will the police learn that giving chase is not the answer - is a conviction worth a life? I don't think so. Back off cops.</b>
So Anna, you are quiet happy for an uninsured driver in a stolen car with out a license to drive down your roads / streets / around the marina at speed or erratically and possibly hit people. If you are willing to take that risk you are one in a million I think.

If these people have broken the law they deserved to be stopped and punished for there crimes. This is an unfortunate accident which I am sorry to read about but if the driver had stopped when requested this wouldn't have happened.

Just as a matter of point most illegal drugs and firearms are transported in stolen vehicles are you happy to let this movement go about unabeited?

If it's a passenger that has died I think the driver of the mazda should be done for manslaughter.

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Reginaldo, Muddy Field says...
11:52am Sat 9 Feb 08

First of all it is a tragedy.That said'Anna' what a ridiculous thing to say. If police can't stop cars then there would be complete anarchy. What is the answer? Easy to say don't chase but the police do not know whay that car contains...if you don't let the police to stop cars more will get stolen, more will die and more criminals will transport stolen goods, drugs etc with complete confidence. I am NOT saying that is the case here but thgink about it before you make what you think is a politically correct comment.

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Paul, Worthing says...
11:58am Sat 9 Feb 08

anna wrote:
<b> When will the police learn that giving chase is not the answer - is a conviction worth a life? I don't think so. Back off cops.</b>
Or alternatively, when will folks like these realise that doing a runner from the plod when they want a word isn't worth a life either?

Would you still hold your view if the people in the car had (for example) burgled your gaff or done over a close relative?

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Tony Wares, Brighton says...
12:26pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Of course my sympathy stays with the family's of those involved, however, the driver made a contious choice, to speed, drive dangerously AND ultematly not to stop for the persuing officers.

I hope this gives a stark reminder to everyone that running is not the best ploicy, as it lands you in the face of trouble evan further.

None of us were angels when we were young, but the differance is, most of us know right from wrong. I commend the police in what they do. You also have to remember that police persuit drivers are highly trained!! Criminals that drive off at speeds often have very little (if any) driver training.
If one thing is learnt from this, it's that young people realise that they are no longer invincible any longer and WILL end up paying for thier actions, weither it be by criminal convictions or with their lives.

A thanks to all invloved in the persuit and aftermath for keeping our country safe! WELL DONE!!

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Councillor Warren Morgan, East Brighton says...
12:29pm Sat 9 Feb 08

My thoughts are with the families of those people involved in the crash. If it is confirmed that they are from Whitehawk I am sure that the strong local community there will want to focus on supporting those families as they deal with what has happened. The Independent Police Complaints Commission are investigating what took place and everyone should await the outcome of that investigation before giving any further reaction.

Councillor Warren Morgan
Labour and Co-operative member for East Brighton ward
Chair, Whitehawk Crime Prevention Forum

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
12:29pm Sat 9 Feb 08

back off will u, this is 2 pay respects. Go debat it else wherew will u!! his family have to read this, dnt u think they feel bad enough already without heartless people like u!!! cnt belive im writing this R.I.P MATT, just cnt belive this. Love u 4ever , jade, cassidy and kaci xxxxxxxxx

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ron, Nutley says...
12:43pm Sat 9 Feb 08

At the end of the day the person who will have to brunt the biggest pain of all will be the driver of this sad and tragic accident. Yes I am afraid the police were right and I am sure that even the local residents would want this. But at the end of it some poor your man has lost his life and for what. May he rest in peace and lets not all get emotional about society which is easy to do and lets show our respects to the mans family who will now have a huge weight of sorrow.

I also feel for the police chasing as I know this will probably not be good for the relationship of the police and the estate but they were simply doing their job as if a car fails to stop then they have no choice but to pursue it.

Anyhow my sympathy goes out to ALL concerned as it cant be asy for anyone involved in dealing with it and thoughts are with you. God bless.

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Number Six, Sompting says...
12:46pm Sat 9 Feb 08

anna wrote:
When will the police learn that giving chase is not the answer - is a conviction worth a life? I don't think so. Back off cops.
A conviction? No!

Stopping innocent people being killed as a result of this behaviour? Every time!

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maria, Whitehawk says...
12:55pm Sat 9 Feb 08

If Anna did know the person that died,I feel she would say. Until the facts are known, it's very unfair to comment why the driver did'nt stop.I agree that the police are only doing their job, the driver should of stopped. The person who was driving, will have to live with this for the rest of his life. Lets also remember a young person has died,a family in pieces. Maybe there should be a police campain, stop and be question.Better than carrying on, and someone tragically losing their life.As society will keep on having incidents like this.

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chris, brighton says...
12:57pm Sat 9 Feb 08

R.I.P MATT M8

People Are Going To Miss U

R.I.P

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Valerie Paynter, Hove says...
1:01pm Sat 9 Feb 08

I'd like to know how old 'Anna' is. Is she more than, say, eight? If she is just a small child on the internet, she should be gently informed of why we have rules and laws. If she is over eight, I feel she puts a chill up my spine and clearly has no sense of where right and wrong begin and end. How does that happen or is it obvious?

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angie, whitehawk says...
1:08pm Sat 9 Feb 08

my heart goes out to the family , as for one less chav , i think your sick in the head , matt r.i.p ,

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
1:10pm Sat 9 Feb 08

come on , would u be saying that Bernard Manning if he was a member of ur family or close friend, or even a son of a friend. No i dnt think u wud be!!!!! chev or not he is still only human, his mum is now left without a son, my kids left without an uncle, this will affect so many ppl, ppl that dnt even no him. Plz , u can have ur opion but just dnt leave them on here 4 us all to see , love u 4ever matt xx

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Sharni, Brighton says...
1:11pm Sat 9 Feb 08

WELL DONE JADE! WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM PEOPLE! SOMEONE JUST DIED AND YOUR ALL ARGUEING ABOUT WHETHER THE DECISONS MADE WERE RIGHT OR NOT! JUST BACK OFF AND BE RESPECTFUL! Jade dunno if you remember me. From Cassidy's party - im madison's second cousin. :) R.I.P MATT. xx

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RAS Putin, Brighton says...
1:15pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Sharni wrote:
WELL DONE JADE! WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM PEOPLE! SOMEONE JUST DIED AND YOUR ALL ARGUEING ABOUT WHETHER THE DECISONS MADE WERE RIGHT OR NOT! JUST BACK OFF AND BE RESPECTFUL! Jade dunno if you remember me. From Cassidy's party - im madison's second cousin. :) R.I.P MATT. xx
Back off and be respectful? Of someone who could have killed entirely innocent people?

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Monitor, Monitoring says...
1:16pm Sat 9 Feb 08

If the police signal for you to stop you have a choice. I believe that 99% of people would pull over. Those that choose to bolt(why would you unless you had something to hide?) make that choice, it is not forced on them by anyone other than themselves. Often, as in this case, the price they pay is ruined lives..

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Sharni, Brighton says...
1:17pm Sat 9 Feb 08

RAS Putin wrote:
Sharni wrote:
WELL DONE JADE! WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM PEOPLE! SOMEONE JUST DIED AND YOUR ALL ARGUEING ABOUT WHETHER THE DECISONS MADE WERE RIGHT OR NOT! JUST BACK OFF AND BE RESPECTFUL! Jade dunno if you remember me. From Cassidy\\\'s party - im madison\\\'s second cousin. :) R.I.P MATT. xx
Back off and be respectful? Of someone who could have killed entirely innocent people?
YEAH. HE WASNT THE ONE DRIVING WAS HE? NO! HE WASNT TO BLAME WAS HE NO! BUT STILL HE DIED! x

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
1:19pm Sat 9 Feb 08

yer i do love, u ok?
make's me sick, this is so upseting , im asking again plz just argue over this sumwhere else, this is meant 4 tributes not sick comments .And yes back off and be respectful , this wasnt his mother's fault and what if she reads this?? sorry matt, gunna be so hard without u xxx

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
1:24pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Im asking again, plz stop with the coment's, just leave comments if ur paying respect to matt or his family.

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Sharni, Brighton says...
1:24pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Im fine. I just cant believe people are being this sdisrespectful. Everyone keeps saying 'Someone who could have killed inocent people' Matt was kill and he was inocent. Matt wasnt driving the car so MATT was no threat. The driver was. Just step back and think before you write things. How would you feel if it was your cousin, brother, uncle, son that had just died and people were debating it and being disrespectful. If you have nothing nice or respectful to say about Matt then dont say anything at all. Nothing anyone can say will bring him back. Whether it was right or wrong he is still gone. x

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Dan T &amp; family, Whitehawk says...
1:24pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Sleeptight Matty
Our thoughts go out to all your family the ones who loved and treasured you.
Your little face will never be forgotten and our thoughts are with the others
godbless
Turner & family

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angie, whitehawk says...
1:25pm Sat 9 Feb 08

come on someone has just died, lets show some care to the familys , please , r.i.p matt

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Leon, Brighton says...
1:26pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Mr Ras Putin. I agree with you (see previous comment). I think this site is fine for commenting and arguing. I just wonder is the argus website the best place for loving (and slightly badly spelt) condolences?

On another note... I bet that like me, you did not get up this morning thinking that you would **** off the whole of Whitehawk by the end of the day :)


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common sense, hove says...
1:31pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Obviously my condolances go out to the families of those involved and my best wishes to those passengers still in hospital. My thoughts also go out to those officers involved. They will be feeling guilty as hell and made to feel like criminals themselves with the investigation when they were just doing their jobs. The person who should be held accountable is the driver. For his part, I hope he can live with the guilt but he must also receive a harsh sentance. I only hope this tragedy serves as a lesson to others who may steal cars, drink and drive, drive without a license or insurance or even just make off from police for the fun of it. All too often these incidents end with a loss of life.

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
1:32pm Sat 9 Feb 08

well maybe 1 day this will happen to u!!!! and im not to botherd if my spelling isn't correct i have other thing's on my mind, now u can stay here all day and laugh at my spelling and laugh because sum1 just died, but im going to spend the rest of the day remembering my friend. R.I P MATT, UD PROB JUST BE LAUGHING BOUT WHAT THSES SMALL MINDED PPL R SAYING ANYWAYS WUDNT U, HOPE U IN A SAFER PLACE X

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maria, Whitehawk says...
1:38pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Leon. How sad and small minded you are. Whitehawk? This could of happened anywhere hove etc. wondered how long it would take for that to rear its ugly head,from small minded bigots. It could of been anyones, son or daughter,in that car.
At the end of the day, a young person has had his life cut tragically short.
Until you live here then dont comment.
R.I.P Matt and my condolences to your family.

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maria, whitehawk says...
1:46pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Jade, I know it's hard. Try and ignore, the small minded comments wrote on here.You write how you want, easy for people to hide behind a pc,and write nasty comments.
Maria

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Richard Head, Marina says...
1:48pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Could have happened anywhere yes... but have you noticed where most of the **** off comments are coming from? Its a certain place slightly north of where I am.

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lorraine, hove says...
1:48pm Sat 9 Feb 08

From one mother and sister to another. I cant even begin to understand the pain and heartache you are all experiencing right now. Matty will be missed by all who had the privilage to know him and loved him. sleep peacefully matty. my thoughts and prayers are with his family and friends. x

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jade lovatt, whitehawk says...
1:50pm Sat 9 Feb 08

leon maybe one day it will happen to u then we will see what people are saying about you wont we!! and by the sounds of ya the thinks that they say wont be good!!
a family have lost someone that they truely love surely u can have some respect and leave your opinions to yourself!! didnt you every get told if you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all!!
R.I.P MATTY YOUR BE TRUELY MISSED XXX

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
1:51pm Sat 9 Feb 08

thanks maria, seem's that they understand what im writing tho, so cnt be to bad. And i can spell lol. Just have other thing's on my mind, i cant read anymore of these so im off now, but thanks to every1 who is paying respect. Love u always matt, dnt wannna see u off xx

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Non Whitehawk resident, Brighton says...
2:01pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Sorry Jade but the message board is for people who want to make comments about what happened and not a board for you to start a campaign where you are all grieving (or in your case, whining) for the loss of a loved one.

Some posts have acknowledged that the person that died was known and that the driver should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I totally agree. The driver had no thought for his passengers at all did he? He probably thought he would look "cool" in front of the other idiots who got into the car with him. Selfish is what I would call that person. The driver thought that much about his/her passengers that he/she decided to run away from the wreck. How thoughtful of him/her. Obviously a caring, sensitive person......NOT

What about the poor officers who were following the vehicle before it crashed? They will have to live with the sight of the carnage caused by an idiot driver who thought it would be great fun to have a police car chasing them. The driver HAD the option to stop but failed to do so. Who is the sensible one here? And now every single action and word will be scrutinised by the IPCC and no doubt the Police will get slated for chasing a car and causing a death which is so wrong! The DRIVER of the car that failed to stop is the one that should be investigated and scutinised NOT the Police Officers who were trying to enforce the law.

But it will happen again. Some young idiot will think it's great to have the Police chase them so they can brag about it afterwards.

Will the driver of this crash be a hero to you Jade???

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Angie, Brighton says...
2:08pm Sat 9 Feb 08

I have read all the comments and firstly I have to say that all I feel is sadness for all the pain that all the families are going to have to go through now. I will be thinking of you all and I send you my love. I am also concerned that people are making assumptions about what actually happened and I'd like to say that sometimes even nice people make mistakes. Lastly the driver of the car probably has a family too who love him. It is an assumption of mine but it appears that five young people were in a car as friends and they all had that choice of being in that car, please don't blame one person. Take care.

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Roger, Hove says...
2:08pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Very sad! Reports say that Police will not formally identify the victim until next week, but from reading these comments, obviously it is someone called Matt.
Oh well, in life, we all learn from our mistakes. Trust the driver in question will "learn" from this.
Be interested to know if the deceased was the front seat passenger or one of three in the back?

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Jade lovatt, whitehawk says...
2:08pm Sat 9 Feb 08

no ones saying that the driver is a hero what he did was dangerous and stupid but why should an innocent passenger be slated for it?? he's killed a friend and has to live with that for the rest of there life. the police should no when to back off they should no when to leave it they are partly yo blame aswell not just the driver!

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Wilson Avenue Resident, Brighton says...
2:12pm Sat 9 Feb 08

..... but what about my wall? Got to pay out of my own pocket to build a new one now. More expense!!

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bn3, hangleton says...
2:12pm Sat 9 Feb 08

What a load of horrible cold hearted evil creatures,so many what ifs and buts -the reality is some poor lad has died leaving family and friends facing a whole lot of grief, and all some people can do is make nasty comments,as if people havent got enough to worry about without reading your snide comments.My thoughts are with his family and friends

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
2:14pm Sat 9 Feb 08

obviously i wudnt think he was a hero and yes they were all stupid including matt. But ppl make misstakes only this one cnt be made right.

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jade, says...
2:14pm Sat 9 Feb 08

who cares about your wall someone has dies

have a heart

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Non Whitehawk resident, Brighton says...
2:15pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Jade why should the Police back off? The Driver was driving like an idiot and needed stopping. Would you be saying anything different if the Driver had knocked down a member of your family and killed them because they thought it was fun? I don't think so.

The Driver will have to live with this for the rest of their life but I doubt very much they will suffer for too long. Those klnd never do.

Until idiots like this learn the Police will continue to try and keep them within the law, although I doubt the driver really thought about that.

My thoughts are with the familiy of the person that died, but also with the Police Officers who will no doubt be traumatised by what happened in front of them.

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Sharni, Brighton says...
2:15pm Sat 9 Feb 08

NOTHING ANYONE CAN SAY WILL MAKE THIS RIGHT. OR BRING MATT BACK! x

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angie, whitehawk says...
2:16pm Sat 9 Feb 08

as for your wall, stuff your wall, someone has just been killed , and all you can say , is how much ur out of pocket , how sad are you , angie

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jade, whitehawk says...
2:18pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Non Whitehawk resident wrote:
Jade why should the Police back off? The Driver was driving like an idiot and needed stopping. Would you be saying anything different if the Driver had knocked down a member of your family and killed them because they thought it was fun? I don\'t think so. The Driver will have to live with this for the rest of their life but I doubt very much they will suffer for too long. Those klnd never do. Until idiots like this learn the Police will continue to try and keep them within the law, although I doubt the driver really thought about that. My thoughts are with the familiy of the person that died, but also with the Police Officers who will no doubt be traumatised by what happened in front of them.
did i say back off to the police no, im saying back off to u heartless ppl, get it right!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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jade lovatt, whitehawk says...
2:19pm Sat 9 Feb 08

what do you mean those kind never do?? known of the people that were in that car are no different to you and me!! they made a mistake and hopefully they will learn from it!

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shannon, bevendean says...
2:22pm Sat 9 Feb 08

A YOUNG MAN has died and three people remain in hospital after a police car chase.

^^ im going to miss you matt!
and btw why are all of you being suck harsh people over this?
i realy wish that none of thsi happend i know 3 of thesse people.
and matt being one of them:(
r.i.p x
im ganna miss you darling x
i always thought of u as a nice person.
you always crossed my mind :)
obne of my freinds got out of the car just 10minutes befor this crash
and im glad 'anonmous' didetn get hurt x
i am so sorry this all had to happen i realy am. just wishb i could turn back the time:(
coz my darling you will always be mineee:(
x
miss you matty !
why you ?
wasent your time to leave x:(
im ganna miss you boy
. always remember you .
without a doubt x
to many people love you babes .
just remember to loook down on all of them x
and your afmily babes
they care so much about you.
i'm just so confused about this ?
why was it you the went?
you deserve antoher chance x
hope it all goes well up there mate x
missed alot x
Shan x
close to my heart x


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homer, springfield says...
2:22pm Sat 9 Feb 08

i feel very sorry for all involved, especially those who have lost family, but if you choose to run away then you must accept any consequences of your actions. they must have had something to hide, or they would have stopped. please everyone, remember it isnt a game to be chased by the police, and you WILL end up hurting someone

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relative to the dead person, brighton says...
2:22pm Sat 9 Feb 08

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thts my uncle u 2 bobbed **** think bout wat u say...my uncle is worth much more than a stupid wall

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Maria, whitehawk resident says...
2:26pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Bit harsh to say whining, is'nt it? Jade is obviously greiving. What ever the right and wrongs in this case are. Yes this site is for, peoples views. But whitehawk non resident,have a bit of feeling. Jade is'nt saying the driver is a hero, far from it. Matt was a passenager,and yes I agree,he and the other's got into that car.No one forced them. As I stated earlier, maybe the police can get their message across. Better to stop and be question, than someone losing their life. What ever the reason is.

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alex, whitehawk says...
2:27pm Sat 9 Feb 08

i'm more than sure if this had happened to someone in your family or to someone you know it would be a differnt story. stop **** n keep your nasty comments to yourself......... no matter wat anyone thinks ppl have lost a son a granchild and more how is it anything to do wid any of you.... let his family see nice messages that ppl have put on her for him rather that you lot going on about your stupid wall and yeah they shouldn't of been in the car but its done now no one can change wats happened and there familys have to live with that so have some respect rip matt xxx

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Sally Ray, Shoreham says...
2:28pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Dear Jade,u dont know me but i have the pleasure to work with matty mum who is a wonderful woman she works very hard at work and at home her life is her family,brothers,sist
ers daughters and sons we are paying our respects to matty on here to ease the pain {not that we can }but to the family i know ur mum she never stops talking about any of you she would give u her last penny if it would help u out,i never ment matty but if anyone loses their life is it fair at such a young age whatever happen please keep matty family in our thoughts they would if it was you especially his mum x my thoughts go to his dad, brothers,sisters, aunties, uncles,nieces,nephew
s,be strong to all of you thank you sally

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Non Whitehawk Resident, Brighton says...
2:28pm Sat 9 Feb 08

jade lovatt wrote:
what do you mean those kind never do?? known of the people that were in that car are no different to you and me!! they made a mistake and hopefully they will learn from it!
Yeah right...the driver is no different to you or me....!

You mean to tell me that the Driver is not known to the Police and not known to the people of Whitehawk?? The Driver is perfect in every way and is a total Angel?? I don't think so do you?

They made a mistake?? Sheesh you are quick to pick up aren't you? The driver has not only killed one person and injured 3 other people, they have ruined the lives of families of the people involved and on top of that the people who have to deal with the carnage left behind. The Police, Ambulance Service and the Fire Fighters.

All normal people behave like that don't they? I wish I could live in your world...must be so colorful

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jade lovatt, whitehawk says...
2:33pm Sat 9 Feb 08

i dont no whether the driver was known to the police and niether do you! people make mistakes and no one is perfect not even you!

know do you even know the driver was from whitehawk?? people just assume things maybe when you get some facts then start sayin stuff!

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
2:34pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Thanks sally, and yes ur right she is a wonderful person and i know she HAS given her last penny to help, just dnt know how we can hep her now, nothing is going to ease the pain,. I no that these nasty comments wont help a grieving mother tho will they? good nyt matty , love and care 4 u always, always think of u and every1 else as my family to, not just the kids x

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
2:38pm Sat 9 Feb 08

i live on WHITEHAWK estate and im not a criminal, a chav or any of the above. I happen to care about ppl and want to make a differnce to this disadvanged estate.

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shay-louise, whitehawk says...
2:40pm Sat 9 Feb 08

much appreciated sally...matt is my uncle and i agree with everthing youve said thank you so much..xx
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lorraine, hove says...
2:43pm Sat 9 Feb 08

on the 9th Febuary 2008 a 17 year old boy has lost his life. That is the bottom line. A tragedy and waist of human life. Anyone with an once of compation would see this is the main and only factor. A young life has been lost! And that is relevant!!! DEBATER'S ARE NOT WELCOME ON THIS SPACE, IT CLEARLY STATES TRIBUTES!!!

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maria, whitehawk says...
2:59pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Well said Lorraine!!!
It quotes that at the top of this thread.
Shay- Lousie my condolences to your family.
Tributes only please, not small minded bigots, that hide behind a PC.

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rik n chaz, says...
3:07pm Sat 9 Feb 08

wot r we gone do wivout u m8?
miss u lots an finkin ov ur famly they mus be chocked. hope u r well ok were u r now.
XXX

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Tia, brighton says...
3:10pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Heard About The rash This Morning .. I Didnt Know Matt But I Feel Really Sorry For His Family & Friends No 1 Deserves To Loose What Is Said To Be A Lovely Person .. There Was Also Another Girl That Died This Moring Which I Did Know Her Name Is Chelsea I Knew Her Sister .. I Grew Up With Her .. I Cant Imagine What Their Families Must Be Going Through.. Loosing Someone Is The Worst Pain You ould Ever Feel.. I Was Shocked & Shaken When I Heard & My Feelings Really Do Go Out To The Families & Friends Of These Two People.. They Were Only Young & Had Thier Whole Lives Ahead Of Them .. No1 Deserves To Die At Such A Young Age...

R.I.P Matt
R.I.P Chelsea


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Man with a brain .., Sussex says...
3:11pm Sat 9 Feb 08

lorraine wrote:
on the 9th Febuary 2008 a 17 year old boy has lost his life. That is the bottom line. A tragedy and waist of human life. Anyone with an once of compation would see this is the main and only factor. A young life has been lost! And that is relevant!!! DEBATER'S ARE NOT WELCOME ON THIS SPACE, IT CLEARLY STATES TRIBUTES!!!
No Lorraine, a 17 year-old male losing his life is the penaultimate line. The bottom line is, and ALWAYS WILL be in this case, is that some young person decided to try and outrun the Police. If he/she had NOT decided upon that course of action, then the 17 year-old boy (Matt ?) would NOT, repeat NOT, have been killed.
That is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. No-one can hide from that.

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Eh?, says...
3:14pm Sat 9 Feb 08

I'm sure these must be really touching tributes, but I can't for the life of me understand a word that's been written.
Are they all from a foreign country?

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lorraine, hove says...
3:17pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Man with a brain .. wrote:
lorraine wrote:
on the 9th Febuary 2008 a 17 year old boy has lost his life. That is the bottom line. A tragedy and waist of human life. Anyone with an once of compation would see this is the main and only factor. A young life has been lost! And that is relevant!!! DEBATER'S ARE NOT WELCOME ON THIS SPACE, IT CLEARLY STATES TRIBUTES!!!
No Lorraine, a 17 year-old male losing his life is the penaultimate line. The bottom line is, and ALWAYS WILL be in this case, is that some young person decided to try and outrun the Police. If he/she had NOT decided upon that course of action, then the 17 year-old boy (Matt ?) would NOT, repeat NOT, have been killed.
That is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. No-one can hide from that.
BRAIN AND NO HEART! It must be wonderful to have made no mistakes in life, TRY NOT TO BE SO RUDE MR BRAIN AND NO HEART AND GET A LIFE!!!!!

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confused, Hove says...
3:17pm Sat 9 Feb 08

rik n chaz wrote:
wot r we gone do wivout u m8? miss u lots an finkin ov ur famly they mus be chocked. hope u r well ok were u r now. XXX
I see what you mean, "Eh?"
What on earth is this all about?

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Phoebe &amp;&amp; Izzy, says...
3:18pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Rest In Peace Matt. You Can Get Through This Michael, We Know You Can!

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hove, hove says...
3:19pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Let it be a lesson to all the stupid idiots that think they can get away with stealing cars, reckless driving,poss no insurance, road tax, and seat belts. But why do they want to take mates with them, bet they were all having a good laugh at the police who were trying to stop them. Those poor buggers are doing a job, it could have been them, no, they are the ones left to pick up the pieces from these stupid idiots. I hope he has nightmares for the rest of his life and never gets behind a wheel again.

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Tia, brighton says...
3:19pm Sat 9 Feb 08

I Dont See Why People Try To Outrun The Police They Will Always Be Court .. To Me Its A Waste Of Time .. You Might Aswell Surrender & In This Case If The Driver Had Done So Then These People Would Not Be Dead & The Families Of These People Would Not Be Feeling The Pain They Are Feeling Right Now !!!!!!

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Tia, brighton says...
3:31pm Sat 9 Feb 08

My Mum Was Driving Along A Road & There Was A Chase Going On But The Polie Car Was Coming Towards My Mums Car .. My Mum Moved To The Side Of The Road But Sadly The Car That The Police Were Chasing Hit My Mums Car And It Was So Close To Hitting My Mum Head On & If It Did My Mum Would Of Died .. So Maybe Police Chases Are Wrong But Who Knows .. Some Day We Will Find The Answer ....

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Kendal Mint, Hove says...
3:31pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Why are all these people chocked? Are they going to roll away?
Bottom line is if the idiot had stopped in the first there wouldn't be any tears or even this discussion.

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Big 'Bruvver', says...
3:32pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Wasn't there another Jade with a gobby mouth recently?

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Man with a brain .., Sussex says...
3:35pm Sat 9 Feb 08

lorraine wrote:
Man with a brain .. wrote:
lorraine wrote: on the 9th Febuary 2008 a 17 year old boy has lost his life. That is the bottom line. A tragedy and waist of human life. Anyone with an once of compation would see this is the main and only factor. A young life has been lost! And that is relevant!!! DEBATER'S ARE NOT WELCOME ON THIS SPACE, IT CLEARLY STATES TRIBUTES!!!
No Lorraine, a 17 year-old male losing his life is the penaultimate line. The bottom line is, and ALWAYS WILL be in this case, is that some young person decided to try and outrun the Police. If he/she had NOT decided upon that course of action, then the 17 year-old boy (Matt ?) would NOT, repeat NOT, have been killed. That is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. No-one can hide from that.
BRAIN AND NO HEART! It must be wonderful to have made no mistakes in life, TRY NOT TO BE SO RUDE MR BRAIN AND NO HEART AND GET A LIFE!!!!!
Did I say I have never made any mistakes?
I don't feel as though I am being rude, just truthful. The driver broke the law. End of ....!

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Tia Maria, says...
3:36pm Sat 9 Feb 08

I Really Haven't Got Anything Interesting To Add To These Comments I Just Like To Type Lots Of Words So I Can Put A Capital Letter At The Beginning Coz It Looks Really Cool And Intelligent. Doesn't It?

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shay-louise, whitehawk says...
3:36pm Sat 9 Feb 08

that "idiot" so to be nearly died and my uncle did die so think twice what if it was one of your family..

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hove, hove says...
3:39pm Sat 9 Feb 08

what is it with you lot, do you all think that you live in Brixton. The way that you talk. If you want to speak like this why oh why don't you all do us a favour and go and live in africa. or an lsland some where. Were you not taught to speak ENGLISH at school or better still by your parents. God help us with this lots off springs.

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Kendal Mint, hove says...
3:40pm Sat 9 Feb 08

what if it was one of my family???
there isn't anyone in my family who is dodgy enough to be stopped by the police, let alone drive off at high speed and kill people.

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Owen, whitehawk says...
3:40pm Sat 9 Feb 08

The piece of scum got no less than he deserved.

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Stroller, Hove says...
3:42pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Beats me what the people in the car - the driver and the others - were hoping to achieve in precious life by pelting around like that. Nobody asked them to do so. They evidently thought this was a productive use of time and resources.

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lorraine, hove says...
3:43pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Man with a brain .. wrote:
lorraine wrote:
Man with a brain .. wrote:
lorraine wrote: on the 9th Febuary 2008 a 17 year old boy has lost his life. That is the bottom line. A tragedy and waist of human life. Anyone with an once of compation would see this is the main and only factor. A young life has been lost! And that is relevant!!! DEBATER'S ARE NOT WELCOME ON THIS SPACE, IT CLEARLY STATES TRIBUTES!!!
No Lorraine, a 17 year-old male losing his life is the penaultimate line. The bottom line is, and ALWAYS WILL be in this case, is that some young person decided to try and outrun the Police. If he/she had NOT decided upon that course of action, then the 17 year-old boy (Matt ?) would NOT, repeat NOT, have been killed. That is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. No-one can hide from that.
BRAIN AND NO HEART! It must be wonderful to have made no mistakes in life, TRY NOT TO BE SO RUDE MR BRAIN AND NO HEART AND GET A LIFE!!!!!
Did I say I have never made any mistakes?
I don't feel as though I am being rude, just truthful. The driver broke the law. End of ....!
Well you made mistakes and they didn't cost you your life, you are very lucky then.The people in that car made a mistake, they have not been as lucky.

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Tia, Brighton says...
3:48pm Sat 9 Feb 08

WHY DONT YOU ALL STOP BLOODY ARGUING & PAY YOUR RESPECTS INSTEAD OF BEING HORRIBLE SUM1 HAS JUST LOST THIER LIFE AND A FRIEND OF MINE HAS JUST LOST HIS FRIEND ..YOU ARE ALL SOO SAD YOU NEED TO GROW UP .. TODAY AND MANY DAYS WILL BE SAD FOR MANY PEOPLE & JUST THINK IF IT WAS YOU WHO LOST A CLOSE FRIEND/FAMILY MEMBER THEN YOU WOULDNT WANT PEOPLE ARGUING ABOUT HE/SHE YOU WOULD WANT RESPECT .... YOU NEED TO GROW UP ...

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lorraine, hove says...
3:49pm Sat 9 Feb 08

It has made me feel sick to see the nasty comments left, you people should be ashamed!

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TIA MARIA, says...
3:52pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Tia wrote:
WHY DONT YOU ALL STOP BLOODY ARGUING & PAY YOUR RESPECTS INSTEAD OF BEING HORRIBLE SUM1 HAS JUST LOST THIER LIFE AND A FRIEND OF MINE HAS JUST LOST HIS FRIEND ..YOU ARE ALL SOO SAD YOU NEED TO GROW UP .. TODAY AND MANY DAYS WILL BE SAD FOR MANY PEOPLE & JUST THINK IF IT WAS YOU WHO LOST A CLOSE FRIEND/FAMILY MEMBER THEN YOU WOULDNT WANT PEOPLE ARGUING ABOUT HE/SHE YOU WOULD WANT RESPECT .... YOU NEED TO GROW UP ...
MOVED ON TO CAPITAL LETTERS THROUGHOUT HAVE WE TIA?
CONGRATULATIONS!!

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Tia, Brighton says...
3:53pm Sat 9 Feb 08

I Agree With Youu Lorraine .. I Think It Is Bloody Disgusting ... But Like I Sed In My Other Comment They Need To Bloody Grow Up !!

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Tia, Brighton says...
3:57pm Sat 9 Feb 08

SO I CANT WRITE IN CAPIAL LETTERS IF I LIKE .. ITS NOT UPTO YOU .. I JUST THINK YOUR ALL PETHETIC !!

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Tia Maria, says...
3:57pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Whoops, Back To The Usual Now.
I Take The Congratulations Back!

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tanya, whitehawk says...
3:58pm Sat 9 Feb 08

matty(hobit)was the nickname my brvs gave matty when they met him,they all had a good laugh with him.hobit(matty) you was my sons best mate and he hasnt stoped crying since your mum came and told him.it hurst so much to see my son like this,he has lost a very good mate and are hearts go to his family. R.I.P. HOBIT(MATTY) WE ALL WILL MISS YOU.JIMMY,SMALZY,TAN
YA AND FAMILY.

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Roger, Hove says...
3:58pm Sat 9 Feb 08

£10,000 for the 100th comment here.

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Maria, Whitehawk says...
4:01pm Sat 9 Feb 08

I agree Lorraine. If the earlier, comment is right. Two youngsters have lost their lives.
People with wicked tongues, posting hateful comments.
YES WE KNOW IT WAS WRONG, BUT HAVE A BIT OF COMPASSION

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Tia, Brighton says...
4:02pm Sat 9 Feb 08

I Cant Believe How Pathetic Your Being Some One Has Just Lost Their Life & Your Moaning About Me Writing In Capitals .. Well Shows How Heartless You Really Are

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shay-louise, whitehawk says...
4:06pm Sat 9 Feb 08

thanks for all the lovley comments and memories it means alot guys...not only have i lost my uncle but seeing **** like this is unbelieveable...what if the tables were turned around you would go crazy if sum one was writing this about ur family...and in my eyes no one deserves to die..

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hove, hove says...
4:06pm Sat 9 Feb 08

does any one agree that the driving age should be 21, when idiots like this one driver hopefully should have a bit more sense. He could have killed any one of your, yes you or mine decent people family members. I hope the judge throws the book at him, better still some one has it tattooed on his forehead so in life his ignored.

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The Real Truth, brighton says...
4:12pm Sat 9 Feb 08

I blame the parents of the driver. Did they not bring him up to respect the police and the law? Probably not. He thought he was above it, a better driver than the police officer, wanted to show off to his mates. Oh well, looks like he was wrong and his mate paid the price and so will his family, thoughts are with them. I wish people would stop trying to blame others, the people in the car chose to be in it. If they were all such good friends, they would have known the driver would have failed to stop for police. They made the choice, they have to take the responsiblity for their actions. You make your bed, you lie in it. Just a shame one persons bed is now his grave.

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wisey old fella, says...
4:15pm Sat 9 Feb 08

as per usual its the way they have been brought up,FACT

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brighton born, Brighton says...
4:18pm Sat 9 Feb 08

TIA MARIA wrote:
Tia wrote: WHY DONT YOU ALL STOP BLOODY ARGUING &amp; PAY YOUR RESPECTS INSTEAD OF BEING HORRIBLE SUM1 HAS JUST LOST THIER LIFE AND A FRIEND OF MINE HAS JUST LOST HIS FRIEND ..YOU ARE ALL SOO SAD YOU NEED TO GROW UP .. TODAY AND MANY DAYS WILL BE SAD FOR MANY PEOPLE &amp; JUST THINK IF IT WAS YOU WHO LOST A CLOSE FRIEND/FAMILY MEMBER THEN YOU WOULDNT WANT PEOPLE ARGUING ABOUT HE/SHE YOU WOULD WANT RESPECT .... YOU NEED TO GROW UP ...
MOVED ON TO CAPITAL LETTERS THROUGHOUT HAVE WE TIA? CONGRATULATIONS!!
I've just driven by the accident scene and I think the occupants of the house are lucky to be alive...yes it's sad a life has been taken..but I hope that everyone who reads about this (from Whitehawk or anywhere) learns an important lesson and takes some responsibility for there own lives and for other people who live around them.

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Leon, Brighton says...
4:22pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Tia Maria wrote:
Whoops, Back To The Usual Now. I Take The Congratulations Back!
Tia Maria , you are a star... and most definitely on my wavelength

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Almost past caring these days., Close enough says...
4:24pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Look -- one thing is pretty certain: it was the driver's fault that Matt died, whoever he was. If Matt or the others in the car knew that the driver had been drinking or knew that they shouldn't have been in that car at the time, they've got to share some of the blame. For all that, nobody deserved to die. That said, the result is entirely the fault of the driver and I hope he gets what is coming to him, whether the justice dispensed comes from the courts or from Matt's friends and relatives.

Fault? It's the fault of the people who find excuses for drivers who do these things and it's the fault of their friends who go along with them when they do it.


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Katie, Kent says...
4:30pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Take you stupid **** deabate else where,this part is for tribuets!,And Bastards like you make it harder to cope with!, My cousins kids are left without and unchle,And He will be missed by sooo many people so STFU and go else where!


Matty <3 xxx

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Gaynor, hove says...
4:30pm Sat 9 Feb 08

my mum lives next door to the family of matty. i remember him when he was just a little boy.
i am very saddened to hear off his death.
Please let's all remember that a very decent young man has just lost his life. we should all respect that.
my thoughts are with his family.

R.I.P Mattie..

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4:33pm Sat 9 Feb 08

FROM MODERATOR
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Due to the high volume of comments we politely request that the residents of Whitehawk use a spell-checker facility before adding their comments.

Users not doing so will have their comments REMOVED to conserve space on this page and to preserve the sanity of those who have achieved a C grade in GCSE or higher.

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4:38pm Sat 9 Feb 08

FROM MODERATOR
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What he said

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hayley stunell, says...
4:39pm Sat 9 Feb 08

u ppl who have left comment that are stupid! someone has died show a bit of **** respect-wot if it was ur brother,son,grandson or nephew-how would u feel??
a wall can b repaired-a life cant!

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Betty, NOT WHITEHAWK says...
4:41pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Ha ha Moderator. I think you just pi$$ed off the whole of Whitehawk in two smooth moves. Nice

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Jamie, Brighton says...
4:45pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Betty wrote:
Ha ha Moderator. I think you just pi$$ed off the whole of Whitehawk in two smooth moves. Nice
Doesn't take much to Pi$$ them off anyway, they just need a reason or excuse to 'kick-off'.

Oh Moderator, it looks like it's not just Whitehawk you have upset, most of Brighton now can not post messages

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RIP, brighton says...
4:48pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Yes very sorry for the family and everyone that knows these kids.
The driver will live with this for the rest of his life and no doubt everyone that knew this guy.
At least no innocent passer by was killed or maimed by his thoughtless actions.
He will at least be able to use the guilt he feels for years to come eveythime he is up in court and get a reduced sentence!

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Almost past caring., Near enough. says...
4:53pm Sat 9 Feb 08

I like to apologise for most of us to the family and friends of Matt. I had no idea who he was but clearly he was liked and loved by those close to him. No, this is not reserved for tributes to the lad but there's something else going on here. If nothing else, what is showing is a general revulsion for the mindsets of drivers whose behaviour leads to the death of people like Matt. Unfortunately, the thoroughly-deserved contempt that he attracts is being spread indiscriminately and Matt is copping far more than he deserves. Leave the lad alone and let his family grieve. And for god's sake, this is hardly the place for cheap -- really cheap -- jokes about English language usage.
On the other hand perhaps those friends and family of Matt might, in due course, turn their anger on those wastes of space who cause tragedies like this in the first place. They really are a waste of space and society would be far better off without them.

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maria, Whitehawk says...
4:58pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Oh Moderator you are a sad bloody, loser. I bet myself and my partner, pay more taxes, in a month than you do in year. Oh and I live in Whitehawk. Dear me,not the typical stereotype am I? If all you have got to do in your, sparetime is slag people off,on a internet site. I suggest you run along, and find something more useful to do.I bet your a sad,and lonely computer freak, who has never been loved before. Who's mother should of drowned you at birth. LOL LOL LOL

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Ian, Kemptown says...
5:09pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Sorry Maria -- I just can't resist it. First you say "dear me, not the typical stereotype am I?" And then you go on to say " who's mother should of drowned you".

I think what you meant was "whose mother should HAVE drowned you". Sorry everybody. I know this is no laughing area but the temptation was far too great. I won't do that again.

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Maria, whitehawk says...
5:10pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Ha ha ha ha. Very good, and quick thinking. Sticks and stones etc. La la

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Tia, Brighton says...
5:10pm Sat 9 Feb 08

There Was Also A Girl Who Was In The Car Who Died This Moring .. I Knew Her & Her Family .. Pay Some Respects To Her Aswell... No 1 Derserves To Loose Their Life They Way Matt & Chelsea Did.. I Feel Soo Sorry For Their Families .. My Thoughts Are With Them Right Now ..

R.I.P MATT XXX
R.I.P CHELSEA XXX

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Eco Man, Kemp Town says...
5:18pm Sat 9 Feb 08

What is all this nonsense about being told to "show respect" for Matt and the others?

What respect did they show for people by driving in that potentially murderous fashion?

The survivors have some hard thinking to do about their place in society. then they might gain some respect.

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joe, brighton says...
5:20pm Sat 9 Feb 08

jade banks wrote:
back off will u, this is 2 pay respects. Go debat it else wherew will u!! his family have to read this, dnt u think they feel bad enough already without heartless people like u!!! cnt belive im writing this R.I.P MATT, just cnt belive this. Love u 4ever , jade, cassidy and kaci xxxxxxxxx
R.I.P MATTY WE WILL ALWAYS REMBER U MATE LOVE YOUR MATES JOE DANNY JON & LUKE

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Kev, brighton says...
5:25pm Sat 9 Feb 08

anna wrote:
When will the police learn that giving chase is not the answer - is a conviction worth a life? I don't think so. Back off cops.
I think this is stupid, if the police did not give chase, people would do as they pleased. Q, why where they tyring to get away, i dont think they were just driving fast so they did not get in thae way of a police car.

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Tia, Brighton says...
5:26pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Just Because This Was The Drivers Fault Doesnt Mean He Doesnt Derserve Some Respect He May Of Caused The Accident But This Will Be Driving Him Mad.. He Will Need All The Support He Can Get At The Moment ..

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Steve, Brighton says...
5:27pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Yes, it's sad people died, but for God's sake, the driver ran away from the police. The police are not to blame. Well done to the police for spotting something suspicious and aiming to protect those of us who are law abiding. Thankfully no innocent bystanders were hurt - they would have been the real victims.

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Tia, Brighton says...
5:32pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Yes I Agree .. But Just Think What The Driver Must Be Going Through..

I Mean Come On He Has Just Kiiled Two Poeple !!

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Steve, Brighton says...
5:34pm Sat 9 Feb 08

It beggars belief that people are writing the driver should have sympathy. He was willing to put our lives as innocent people at risk why on earth should we have any more respect for him than he had for us?

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
5:34pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Do you know anyone involved in the crash? Leave your tributes below or call The Argus newsdesk on 01273 544527

Yes....that's abit from the top of this page, so keep leaving your tributs and the rest of yuy go make up some more stuipd joke's.
r.i.p matt love ya xxx

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Steve, Brighton says...
5:37pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Jade, you are missing the point. Why show ANY respect for an idiot who showed no respect for other people? That is the point people on here are making.

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Jamie, Brighton says...
5:39pm Sat 9 Feb 08

jade banks wrote:
Do you know anyone involved in the crash? Leave your tributes below or call The Argus newsdesk on 01273 544527 Yes....that's abit from the top of this page, so keep leaving your tributs and the rest of yuy go make up some more stuipd joke's. r.i.p matt love ya xxx
Its called FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
Human Rights and All that.
If the Argus are that daft to allow comments then expect condolences and truthful comments!

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
5:42pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Jamie wrote:
jade banks wrote: Do you know anyone involved in the crash? Leave your tributes below or call The Argus newsdesk on 01273 544527 Yes....that's abit from the top of this page, so keep leaving your tributs and the rest of yuy go make up some more stuipd joke's. r.i.p matt love ya xxx
Its called FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Human Rights and All that. If the Argus are that daft to allow comments then expect condolences and truthful comments!
yes , but that's not what it read's is it? NO .!!! why do you have to be so cruel?

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Steve, Brighton says...
5:44pm Sat 9 Feb 08

I suppose the most reassuring thing about all the comments on this section is it shows how unwilling the people of Brighton are to put up with law breakers who try to ruin things for everyone.

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
5:45pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Steve wrote:
Jade, you are missing the point. Why show ANY respect for an idiot who showed no respect for other people? That is the point people on here are making.
and his mother ? and the rest of his family who have been reading these? could you just imagin how everyone is feeling, we want to come on here and see nice messages from his friends and family. No matter what he has done, we love him and will miss him.

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shrek, far,far away says...
5:46pm Sat 9 Feb 08

having read all these comments, i would like to send my condolences to all involved. i just hope that anyone thinking of drinking and driving reads these too, and decides not to. also, if the police want you to stop, then do so, as it mat be something as simple as a bulb out on the car, which you dont know about. it is no worth risking anyones life for

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Jamie, Brighton says...
5:48pm Sat 9 Feb 08

jade banks wrote:
Jamie wrote:
jade banks wrote: Do you know anyone involved in the crash? Leave your tributes below or call The Argus newsdesk on 01273 544527 Yes....that\\\'s abit from the top of this page, so keep leaving your tributs and the rest of yuy go make up some more stuipd joke\\\'s. r.i.p matt love ya xxx
Its called FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Human Rights and All that. If the Argus are that daft to allow comments then expect condolences and truthful comments!
yes , but that\\\'s not what it read\\\'s is it? NO .!!! why do you have to be so cruel?
As Stated above.
Expect truthful and rude comments as well as condolences.

Agin, if the Argus re that daft to add comment boxes then expect it, especially as it relates to Polce, Youths, Crashes and Death. EVERYONE puts their two pennies worth in.

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
5:49pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Eco Man wrote:
What is all this nonsense about being told to "show respect" for Matt and the others? What respect did they show for people by driving in that potentially murderous fashion? The survivors have some hard thinking to do about their place in society. then they might gain some respect.
but us as his friend's and family? it's hard knowing we will never see his face again, due to being stupid, these nasty comment's just make it worse, i havent come on here to argue and i don't see why other people want to. Can't you have a discuion about this somewhere else?

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david cameron-young, abingdon says...
5:49pm Sat 9 Feb 08

jade banks wrote:
Steve wrote:
Jade, you are missing the point. Why show ANY respect for an idiot who showed no respect for other people? That is the point people on here are making.
and his mother ? and the rest of his family who have been reading these? could you just imagin how everyone is feeling, we want to come on here and see nice messages from his friends and family. No matter what he has done, we love him and will miss him.
of course you all love him, and i believe most of these posters would respect that, but they also need to make the point that this could have been avoided if they had bothered to stop when asked

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norm, hove says...
5:50pm Sat 9 Feb 08

cheaper than prosecution, court time etc and probably less paperwork for plod!

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shirley, usa california says...
5:50pm Sat 9 Feb 08

I thinks is very sad that people have to be so crule dont you have any think better to do or say .I was born in Whitehawk and the people that live their have hearts and feeling God bless Matt.

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Sickened, Brighton says...
5:52pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Jade; you think this section should be for TRIBUTES?! Your friend might not have been driving but he still CHOSE to be in that car. Everyone has a choice, and he decided to evade the police with his friends. Just because he wasn't the driver does not mean that he cannot be blamed. He died as result of his decisions last night; it's sad but true. His funeral will be a time for you to remember him, this section is a place for the people of this city to air their views. EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion. Mine is that he died because of his choice to ride in that car. A tragedy that a young man had to die because he wouldn't take ownership of his actions and let the police talk to him.

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
5:53pm Sat 9 Feb 08

yes make your point but can't you do it else where. Infact i think you have made your point i havent disagred with the fact that it was stupid and they werent respecting other's. But yet again we love him and will miss him and it hurt's to see some of these nasty comment's. And if it was just a point you were trying to get across, why have most of you started getting personal?

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lorraine, hove says...
5:54pm Sat 9 Feb 08

This is for leon!! I can spell this: YOU ARE A SAD ****!!! Do you have any children? If you do let's hope you don't ever have to bury one of them.

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sally ray, Shoreham says...
6:00pm Sat 9 Feb 08

TO EVERYONE OUT THERE YES IT IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH BUT NEVERTHELESS 2 YOUNG LIVES HAVE BEEN LOST MY RESPECTS GO TO BOTH FAMILYS BUT ONE THING IS HOW ANYONE CAN SAY ITS THE WAY THAT MATTY WAS BROUGHT UP THAT HE LOST HIS LIFE WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP I HAVE THE PLEASURE TO WORK WITH MATTYS MUM AND IM VERY PROUD TO CALL HER MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE I LOVE HER VERY MUCH AND ONLY GOD KNOWS WHAT SHE MATTYS MUM AND THE REST OF HIS VERY CLOSE FAMILY AND FRIENDS ARE GOING THOUGH,ALL THE RESPECT TO YOU MY THOUGHTS ARE WITH YOU ALL IN WHITEHAWK SALLY X X

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
6:00pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Sickened wrote:
Jade; you think this section should be for TRIBUTES?! Your friend might not have been driving but he still CHOSE to be in that car. Everyone has a choice, and he decided to evade the police with his friends. Just because he wasn\\\\\\\'t the driver does not mean that he cannot be blamed. He died as result of his decisions last night; it\\\\\\\'s sad but true. His funeral will be a time for you to remember him, this section is a place for the people of this city to air their views. EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion. Mine is that he died because of his choice to ride in that car. A tragedy that a young man had to die because he wouldn\\\\\\\'t take ownership of his actions and let the police talk to him.
yes i agree its a tragedy that he dies because he was being stupid, but his mother and rest of his family have been reading these comment's. Have your view's but no need to get personal is there? at the end of the day, they are only human, and we all make mistakes.Just stop being so harsh please

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Tia, Brighton says...
6:02pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Im Not Saying Its Ok For Drink Drivers Because Its Not .. & Yes He Shouldnt Of Driven That Car But He Did & Yes He Has Caused Some Damage .. But He Doesnt Derserve To be Punished All Of His Life.. He Has A Right To Live His Life Aswell As All Of Us.. He Will Get His Punishment Being With Police Offiecers But That Dont Mean We Have To Punish Him Aswell ... Everyone Has A Right To Say Their Own Opinions !!

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david cameron-young, abingdon says...
6:05pm Sat 9 Feb 08

jade banks wrote:
yes make your point but can't you do it else where. Infact i think you have made your point i havent disagred with the fact that it was stupid and they werent respecting other's. But yet again we love him and will miss him and it hurt's to see some of these nasty comment's. And if it was just a point you were trying to get across, why have most of you started getting personal?
those that are getting personal are right out of order, but please let us make our point. it was a stupid thing to do, but now maybe it is time to put this to bed and let these families have their time alone. im sure that the police will reveal the findings of the ipcc in due course. once again im very sorry someone had to lose a life like this, so come on, THINK BEFORE YOU DRINK BEFORE YOU DRIVE

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homer, springfield says...
6:09pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Tia wrote:
Im Not Saying Its Ok For Drink Drivers Because Its Not .. & Yes He Shouldnt Of Driven That Car But He Did & Yes He Has Caused Some Damage .. But He Doesnt Derserve To be Punished All Of His Life.. He Has A Right To Live His Life Aswell As All Of Us.. He Will Get His Punishment Being With Police Offiecers But That Dont Mean We Have To Punish Him Aswell ... Everyone Has A Right To Say Their Own Opinions !!
he will be punished for the rest of his life over this, so lets leave well alone now.

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The negotiator, Brighton says...
6:10pm Sat 9 Feb 08

It seems to me that when something tragic like this happens, there should be two forums. One strictly for tributes or those that may be personally affected, and one for anyone wishing to comment on the event itself. There could be a link for each at the top of the page.

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
6:12pm Sat 9 Feb 08

i agree think befor you drink and drive. I love you matt, dnt think i had ever told you that lol, u were like a lil brother to dan, and i always saw you as a lil brother 2 me to. Cnt belive this has happend to u matt, got some memorie that will stay with me forever. wish i could be there for dan right now. And dnt u worry im not going to let any1 slate u, r.i.paradise .love 4ever jade and kid's ****

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
6:14pm Sat 9 Feb 08

The negotiator wrote:
It seems to me that when something tragic like this happens, there should be two forums. One strictly for tributes or those that may be personally affected, and one for anyone wishing to comment on the event itself. There could be a link for each at the top of the page.
yes that doesn't sound to bad. But it does say at the top of this page TRIBUTES so?

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Jamie, Brighton says...
6:14pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Jade,
I sympathise and emphathise with you for the loss of a humand life. Parents shouldn't bury their children, it isn't right.
BUT, and there is a BUT, The Argus need to be accountable for their decision to have a comments field. They have decided to allow comments which are now upsetting everyone. Don't start getting annoyed with comment posters as Freedom of Speech is now alive with comment boxes.
If you want sympathy then people should read and not have the facility to post comments.
TIA,
Shhhhhh.
He does deserve to be punished, by the fact that he made the decision to drink and drive at HIGH speed killing friends and destroying families.
If nothing happens to him at court he should leave Brighton and not walk alone at night.

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John, Cyberspace says...
6:16pm Sat 9 Feb 08

hove wrote:
does any one agree that the driving age should be 21, when idiots like this one driver hopefully should have a bit more sense. He could have killed any one of your, yes you or mine decent people family members. I hope the judge throws the book at him, better still some one has it tattooed on his forehead so in life his ignored.
Possibly, but it won't stop this sort of thing. Was this driver old enough to drive and had he passed his test? Perhaps he had, but I doubt it somehow.

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
6:18pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Jamie wrote:
Jade, I sympathise and emphathise with you for the loss of a humand life. Parents shouldn't bury their children, it isn't right. BUT, and there is a BUT, The Argus need to be accountable for their decision to have a comments field. They have decided to allow comments which are now upsetting everyone. Don't start getting annoyed with comment posters as Freedom of Speech is now alive with comment boxes. If you want sympathy then people should read and not have the facility to post comments. TIA, Shhhhhh. He does deserve to be punished, by the fact that he made the decision to drink and drive at HIGH speed killing friends and destroying families. If nothing happens to him at court he should leave Brighton and not walk alone at night.
and this is my point, it's hard 4 us all. And they were all stupd, not just the driver, and yes they should all be punished, but death doesn't make it right does it? And i dnt think the argus set this up for being to put there point across.

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Ash, Whitehawk says...
6:18pm Sat 9 Feb 08

I dont understand why people are here to argue. A life has been lost and people would rather annoy whitehawkers than show theyre respects. And also as for those who are saying "its all the drivers fault" i believe that you couldnt be any further from the truth, every one involved in the car when it crashed chose to be there, its not like the driver held them hostage! its not all HIS fault, i believe that if any one is at fault then it is all the involved. also people who are here to whine and try to get one over on whitehawkers should just not bother to post comments because it shows that you have NO life if you have the time to say rubbish about people you do not know just to see there reactions

Matty was a great kid and lived life to the full. R.I.P mate you were a great cousin as well as a great friend. You will be sadly missed

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Lisa, Cheshire says...
6:20pm Sat 9 Feb 08

anna wrote:
When will the police learn that giving chase is not the answer - is a conviction worth a life? I don\'t think so. Back off cops.
Sorry Anna, but if the police didn't persue, all anyone would need to do when signalled by the police to stop, would be to speed off. This would lead to more car theft and joyriding. If they had pulled over as requested, this would never have happened. It's tragic, but it was the driver's fault, not the police.

Lisa

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The negotiator, Brighton says...
6:22pm Sat 9 Feb 08

So you are right, and people are wrong. Ignore anything that bothers you. Just be strong and supportive to everyone that you know have been affected. A lot of pain will result from this.

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Bob, Brighton says...
6:22pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Stupid driver taking unnecessary risks and ends up killing a passenger and seriously injuring other passengers. At least he didn't involve any innocent members of the public in a head on collision, although I do feel sorry for those homeowners whose walls were demolished.

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sally ray, SHOREHAM says...
6:23pm Sat 9 Feb 08

The negotiator wrote:
It seems to me that when something tragic like this happens, there should be two forums. One strictly for tributes or those that may be personally affected, and one for anyone wishing to comment on the event itself. There could be a link for each at the top of the page.
DEAR JADE ITS SALLY MATTYS MUM FRIEND PLEASE BE STRONG HUN MY THOUGHTS ARE WITH YOU,YOU HAVE LOST SOMEONE VERY DEAR TO YOU WHAT EVER HAPPEN WHOEVER WAS TO BLAME HUN YOU AS A FAMILY MEMBER AS LOST SOMEONE THINKING OF YOU AT THIS VERY HARD TIME X GOD BLESS X

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
6:24pm Sat 9 Feb 08

oh ell, atleast us loseing a family memeber and great friend is amusing some people, you all carry on beinhd you pc's laughing and thinking it's a joke, while we all greive for our mate. And yes my spelling isn't perfect , but that doesn't make me any less than you.

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Eco Man, Kemp Town says...
6:29pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Yes, I think we know where everybody stands on this now. It has run its course, but the grief will continue, and it is perhaps better now for those in the thick of it to walk, or talk, rather than peer at a screen. A rotten weekend - and more - for them.

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Anne, Whitehawk says...
6:34pm Sat 9 Feb 08

maria wrote:
Oh Moderator you are a sad bloody, loser. I bet myself and my partner, pay more taxes, in a month than you do in year. Oh and I live in Whitehawk. Dear me,not the typical stereotype am I? If all you have got to do in your, sparetime is slag people off,on a internet site. I suggest you run along, and find something more useful to do.I bet your a sad,and lonely computer freak, who has never been loved before. Who\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s mother should of drowned you at birth. LOL LOL LOL
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Well done Maria, I am also from Whitehawk, work and pay taxes.Oops,also not sterotypical. What do these cretins think they know about Whitehawk anyway?

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
6:34pm Sat 9 Feb 08

id rather sit here, i can't find much else to do , the atmospher is horrid everywhere you go.Say what you want about me or what im doing , iv heard enough now.

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friend, whitehawk says...
6:36pm Sat 9 Feb 08

RIP MATT

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Anne, Whitehawk says...
6:37pm Sat 9 Feb 08

R.I.P Matty.A great lad and true friend to all who had the priviledge of knowing you.You will be greatly missed. The heavens have just gained a great shining star.Will miss you Matt.

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
6:39pm Sat 9 Feb 08

here i will make it 21 messages. Hope our having a great laugh, if this is what you get your kick's from i suggest you socalise abit more, make some friend's.

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EMILY AND KIRSTIE, BRIGHTON says...
6:45pm Sat 9 Feb 08

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Acheron, Hove says...
6:47pm Sat 9 Feb 08

First of all, it's sad that two young people have lost their life. Irrespective of where they live, it is two lives lost that could have gone on to do good. None of us can say that is not the case as we can't see the future.

I would though like to challenge the perception that the driver made 'a mistake'. His actions weren't a mistake. They stopped being a mistake when he willful drove away from the police. At that point it was a willful act, not an error of judgment as he knew exactly what he was doing and why.

No he didn't show any respect to his friends. I would hope they would have been encouraging him to stop. If they were, they are innocents caught up in something. If they were encouraging him, then they will have helped caused the problem.

Police are always told that in a chase situation that if they think there is a danger of an accident that they should pull back (different from giving up).

No one wins from a situation like this. The only hope is that those involved in the incident, or their friends will encourage others not to do the same. However given the youths I've worked with in the past, this is only likely to happen for a short time.)

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mark, brightoon says...
6:47pm Sat 9 Feb 08

now it is so lifes gone when when will you kids stop and think what your doing
to your familys and others when you do this kind of thingi do hope the driver go.s to prison for a long time and the ploice have to clean up the mess as all ways and it is all ways the same part of brighton that is in the news

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sam butterfield, brighton says...
6:51pm Sat 9 Feb 08

sorry to here matt has passed away my heart goes out to the family and i hope simon gets better soon my heart all so goes to his family love sam butterfield

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Dave, brighton says...
6:51pm Sat 9 Feb 08

This is a difficult one i do feel very sorry for anyone who is greiving for the deceased,but as said before you play with fire and you get burnt. But then you have the other side of the story we all make mistakes but had it been one of my family in that car i would fight there corner you do thats what family do for eachother. But all in all i have been stopped by the police for speeding etc but i know speeding isnt right but we all have done it but im prepared to stop the car and hold my hands up say im sorry and if i get punished i get punished at least iv hurt no one else then.To say the least they all make mistake but have now had to pay a heavy price. We are all very quick to judge,now im not religous but just remember "Let he without sin cast the first stone"

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EMILY AND KIRSTIE, BRIGHTON says...
6:52pm Sat 9 Feb 08

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Steve Gower, Brighton says...
6:57pm Sat 9 Feb 08

My very deepest sympathy goes out to Matt's Mother, father and family. I can't even imagine the pain they must be going through today. I only knew Matt briefly, he worked for me for a while last year. He was a good lad, no angel but who among you is? I found a quality in him that is so rare in kids his age. Whatever he was up to last night I doubt very much that he deserved to die for it. You folks who have used this forum to voice your short sighted pathetic self righteous opinions should be ashamed of yourselves. This is neither the time or place. RIP Matthew, it was a pleasure to have known you.

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Leon, Brighton says...
6:59pm Sat 9 Feb 08

lorraine wrote:
This is for leon!! I can spell this: YOU ARE A SAD ****!!! Do you have any children? If you do let's hope you don't ever have to bury one of them.
Thank you for your concern, I also hope I don't have to do that either. It would be rather horrible.

Try reading the first comment I posted... my condolences to the family. Then, the more I read on the more pi$$ed off I got with all of you, and so you got the sharp side of my tongue. Anyway I'm off to work now. My first comment still stands.

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Lewes_Road, Brighton says...
7:02pm Sat 9 Feb 08

We drove past the crash site earlier today but didn't see the story on the BBC until after. It's a shame someone got killed. That's what happens when these kids think they can do what the hell they want. I sorry for the poor old fella stood outside his house - his front wall gone and his windows boarded up.

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Jasmin x, WHITEHAWK says...
7:04pm Sat 9 Feb 08

theres so much **** going around about this! theres only 1 person thats losts there life and thats matty .. simon is on a life support merchine fighting for hes life and all you can **** do is aruge have so respect

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sally ray, SHOREHAM says...
7:13pm Sat 9 Feb 08

MODERATER CAN I ASK YOU IF YOU KNEW MATT OR HIS FAMILY BEFORE YOU GO TO WORK PLEASE

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tony, says...
7:18pm Sat 9 Feb 08

you lot cant be that upset about the accident you spent most of the day on your pcs griping on about it now in my book thats not greiving ???

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brighton born, Brighton says...
7:20pm Sat 9 Feb 08

well said Archeron yes It's sad that 2 young lives have been wasted but these people would have been aware what they were doing was wrong and the reasons why that was..and of the possible consequesnces of their actions.I'm sorry family and friends are upset by what they read but what people are saying is what decent law abiding citizens think (although it has to be said,by some, some in a very insensitive and callous way)I think those family and friends should unite in person with each other,cry on each others shoulders and pass on the valuable messages learnt. It's not big and it's not clever and brings misery to innocent peoples lives. Can you imagine being the person asleep in your bed at 1am for that to happen outside your window??

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
7:24pm Sat 9 Feb 08

it's abit hard to griev right now, when it hasnt hit home yet.

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a real family member, brighton says...
7:31pm Sat 9 Feb 08

im matthews uncle colin, jade you are not our family stop trying to live off other peoples grief and gain sympathy stop posting comments everywhere! his real family wish to grieve privately without sensationalizing a needless loss of life

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jade banks, whitehawk says...
7:39pm Sat 9 Feb 08

im not trying to say i am, and im not wanting ppl's sympathy, atho i care bout matt to.sorry to have upset u.

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Jade hater, Brighton says...
7:39pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Sorry Jade... what's that? Can't quite hear you. Silence is golden.

Webmaster, thought "wall" comment was a bit harsh... but not the worst one here so you're ok I guess.

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brighton born, Brighton says...
7:41pm Sat 9 Feb 08

yes someones home was definitely hit big time..and through no fault of their own.Do you think they could go on sleeping there without waking up everytime a car sped by? or remembering the carnage that they woke up to?? doesn't bear thinking of does it? These are the innocent victims and not forgetting the emergency services of course although they've seen it all before sadly

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michelle, whitehawk &amp; proud says...
7:56pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Leon wrote:
Mr Ras Putin. I agree with you (see previous comment). I think this site is fine for commenting and arguing. I just wonder is the argus website the best place for loving (and slightly badly spelt) condolences? On another note... I bet that like me, you did not get up this morning thinking that you would **** off the whole of Whitehawk by the end of the day :)
do u think this is funny that another whitehawk person has died! i'll tell u some think, people my put us down all time but i bet u haven't got a whole community or even friends that u can turn 2 n know 100% that u have support. we all stick together here and no matter wot people like u n everyone else says this will never change. so get a life mate n don't bother commenting no more. ur opinon doesn't matter 2 us!!!

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emily, moulscoomb says...
8:14pm Sat 9 Feb 08

poor kid.. :( R.I.P


get well to those hu r in hospital. xxx

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Lisa, Brighton says...
8:22pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Eco Man wrote:
What is all this nonsense about being told to "show respect" for Matt and the others? What respect did they show for people by driving in that potentially murderous fashion? The survivors have some hard thinking to do about their place in society. then they might gain some respect.
HOW DARE YOU. DO YOU KNOW MATT OR CHELSEA? IF YOU DONT THEN HOW DARE YOU. THEY WERE IN THE CAR, THEY WERNT DRIVING! AND IT WASNT THEIR CHOICE TO RUN FROM THE POLICE. THAT WAS THE DRIVER'S DECISION!

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jimmy, shoreham says...
8:29pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Im saddened to read of another young life being taken in such tragic circumstances, no one can fully comprehend what this young man's family are going through unless they have been through it themselves, which i firmly believe most people here have never been through and i hope never will have to go through the hurt and pain of a situation like this. so please remember to have respect for the family, as at this sad time they are in more need of support. rather than being part of the critisism of our law as it stands today, the rights and wrongs of it dont belong in here but in the courtrooms where educated people can make a farce of the law, without the help of public opinion. right now there are 100s of people affected by what has happened! from the kids in the car to the parents, family and the friends, even the officers involved who were after all doing there job and who will today be second guessing everything they did at the time to see if there was anything they could have done diffrent that could have saved this young mans life, right through to all those that attended the scene ambulance fire, police even to the doctors and nurses who have had to deal with the after affects of it all, to all these people i can only say thanks for being there and doing the best that they can in a bad situation, to everyone else i say be grateful its not your child! but sit back and ask yourself do you honestly know where your child is when they go out. to all the kids reading this, It takes a bigger person to defend whats right than to glorify whats wrong. the next time it could be you in the wrong place at the wrong time, so think big, but be smart not stupid, you only get 1 bite at this apple they call life.
To matty's family my thoughts are with you at this time, i only hope and pray that your family and friends can give you the strength to get through what will be a very difficult time,

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lorraine, hove says...
8:42pm Sat 9 Feb 08

jimmy wrote:
Im saddened to read of another young life being taken in such tragic circumstances, no one can fully comprehend what this young man\'s family are going through unless they have been through it themselves, which i firmly believe most people here have never been through and i hope never will have to go through the hurt and pain of a situation like this. so please remember to have respect for the family, as at this sad time they are in more need of support. rather than being part of the critisism of our law as it stands today, the rights and wrongs of it dont belong in here but in the courtrooms where educated people can make a farce of the law, without the help of public opinion. right now there are 100s of people affected by what has happened! from the kids in the car to the parents, family and the friends, even the officers involved who were after all doing there job and who will today be second guessing everything they did at the time to see if there was anything they could have done diffrent that could have saved this young mans life, right through to all those that attended the scene ambulance fire, police even to the doctors and nurses who have had to deal with the after affects of it all, to all these people i can only say thanks for being there and doing the best that they can in a bad situation, to everyone else i say be grateful its not your child! but sit back and ask yourself do you honestly know where your child is when they go out. to all the kids reading this, It takes a bigger person to defend whats right than to glorify whats wrong. the next time it could be you in the wrong place at the wrong time, so think big, but be smart not stupid, you only get 1 bite at this apple they call life.
To matty\'s family my thoughts are with you at this time, i only hope and pray that your family and friends can give you the strength to get through what will be a very difficult time,
Thank you Jimmy from Shoreham. You have said all that needs to be said. I agree completely.

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zara, whitehawk says...
8:43pm Sat 9 Feb 08

matty, can't believe u have been taken from this world so young.u will be sadly missed.ur family will be well supported,i know they r sad at the moment but in time i'm sure they will smile again about there proud son n brother that is smiling down on them. ur in a safe place now. meet again 1 day but for now r.i.p x x

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sherina, brighton says...
8:45pm Sat 9 Feb 08

u nasty **** why dont u leave his family alone rip matt

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MrSensible, Central says...
8:55pm Sat 9 Feb 08

I work alongside (not With) the Police, and I was working Last Night. I saw the 20 Police taken off the most dangerous street in Brighton to go and deal with this incident. My Condolences go out to the families of the victims, but also to those who have to pick up the pieces. I lost 2 family members due to drink driving, they were innocent victims, and it left 2 little girls orphans... The Police do an amazing job, for reasonable money..but every day a Police Officer goes to work, it could be their last day.. no other job is like that.. I've known Police Officers I call friends that have been stabbed, strangled, been in situations where they could have died.. and it was due to idiots that they were there.. I am happy to pay for the Police, and proud to say they do a fantastic job.. and to those of you who think it was the Police's fault that Matt died..no it wasn't.. it was the Police's JOB to ensure that idiots who break the law get what they deserve.. but knowing the ridiculous Judges we have, the driver will probably get an 18 month ban (for a license he doesn't have) and if he's REALLY unlucky he might get 6 months inside... But will he stop?? No, I really don't think he will..

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alex, serbia says...
9:13pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Behind your screen are people who are feeling the worst kind of pain possible, the amusement who sick c unts seen to get from tormenting a young mans family is beyond sad, human relationships must be something very foreign to these low life scum. This is a time to pay respect, not the time to make your self look smart with shallow displays of morality of right and wrong. I feel sorry for you lifeless scum , but more so for the young man who lost his life.

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Morgan, Shoreham says...
9:22pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Sharni wrote:
Im fine. I just cant believe people are being this sdisrespectful. Everyone keeps saying 'Someone who could have killed inocent people' Matt was kill and he was inocent. Matt wasnt driving the car so MATT was no threat. The driver was. Just step back and think before you write things. How would you feel if it was your cousin, brother, uncle, son that had just died and people were debating it and being disrespectful. If you have nothing nice or respectful to say about Matt then dont say anything at all. Nothing anyone can say will bring him back. Whether it was right or wrong he is still gone. x
AT LEAST SOMEONE'S TALKING SENCE!

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Matt, Brighton says...
9:33pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Morgan, I have read some of the comments further up and just couldn't resist. I think you mean, "makes SENSE!"

Sad day for all those involved. My feelings go out to all the family, emergency services, man without a wall/side of his house. Also my condolences to the English language which slain today.

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PC, Sussex says...
9:48pm Sat 9 Feb 08

R.I.P: Big mistake not to stop. this debate will never be won by anyone. Give the family space and hope the justice system will at least give some justice.

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Ash, Whitehawk says...
10:14pm Sat 9 Feb 08

R.I.P matty mate. im sure you would laugh at the people leaving bad comments here. you would understand how pathetic they actually are. Ill miss you always mate Forever in our hearts Matty R.I.P X

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david cameron-young, abingdon says...
10:27pm Sat 9 Feb 08

i think it is about time we all left the family and friends to grieve now, and let the law take its course. its all very sad, but maybe, just maybe people will learn some valuable lessons from this. parents, know where your children are at night, and kids, if someone says lets go for a drive, think twice before going. i firmly believe that all young drivers should not be allowed out after 7pm, and should not be allowed to carry passengers for the first year after they pass their test(just an idea)

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Ash, says...
10:29pm Sat 9 Feb 08

emily wrote:
poor kid.. :( R.I.P get well to those hu r in hospital. xxx
See this person is from scomb and still has enuff respect to not slate whitehawk in this tragic time. at least some people still have the respect and care for others.
R.I.P matty you were a great friend. love you always

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b-t-b, Brighton says...
10:44pm Sat 9 Feb 08

Everyone has their right to voice their opinion in whatever way they see fit, unfortunately although i do think it is too early to be making some of the comments i have seen here. I do think there is clearly a lot of anger towards the driver, who can be called nothing less than selfish. A number of factors do need to be considered here, ok the other passengers including the lad who sadly died were in the car and agreed to get in, however when the police signalled to stop did they then have any choice but to stay in the vehicle? Unfortunately the person who deserves to pay heavily for this (the driver) will probably get a menial sentence and most likely knew that when he failed to stop, there is no real deterrant for these kind of crimes and these young people know these kind of details nowadays. My sincere condolances go out to the family at what will be a difficult time, however we do need to have some perspective here and acknowledge that these young people chose to enter that vehicle knowing the risks, unfortunately the lad who died is paying the highest price of all, with his life. Nobody deserves to die in this way and i do think that although correct in some of what they say some of the people who have posted on here, baiting what appears to be upset family and friends is totally unnecessary. Some of you seem to intimate through your superior spelling and grammar that you are above these people, yet through your choice of words you show yourselves up. Im all for freedom of speech and agree with some of what you say, but putting people down because they cant write or spell aswel as you is irrelevant and unnecessary. All the besat to the family and friends.

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sonia, lancing says...
11:56pm Sat 9 Feb 08

My sympathy goes to both the parents of these children.
God Bless
R.I.P XX

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Shhhh, The Real World says...
10:00am Sun 10 Feb 08

Why are comments being removed from this site. When i logged on there was 208 posts now there is 199.

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Acheron, Hove says...
10:57am Sun 10 Feb 08

Phoebe/Izzy,

May I politely suggest that you check your fact about police procedure in chases. If there is ever the thought that the driving being displayed by someone 'running' from the police that would 'endanger others or themselves' then the police pull back to a 'safer distance'. Now the IPCC will investigate what happened and determine whether or not this happened, but please don't suggest that the fault of the accident should be laid at the hands of the police.

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Anonymous, Shitehawk says...
1:43pm Sun 10 Feb 08

What are the two females names??

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g l, BRIGHTON says...
2:40pm Sun 10 Feb 08

COME ON SIMON YOU CAN DO IT. WE LOVE YOU YOU ARE A FIGHTER , YOU ARE A STRONG BOY YOU CAN DO IT =D.... I'L WILL SEE YOU SOON. LOVE YOU XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

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., Brighton says...
2:46pm Sun 10 Feb 08

come on si mate you can do it . we believe in you ! you always say your a figher so you are goin to fight throu this with every thing you got ! please dont give up. every one loves you xoxoxoxox

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bilal, brighton says...
2:50pm Sun 10 Feb 08

Norman wrote:
Nice one Anna, let the criminals rule the streets. Are you a complete idiot? When someone makes the decision to drive off from police they take responsibility for their life and of those inside the car. The driver has to live with killing his mate. The whole disaster is his fault.
it is not the drivers fault every one had a chance to get out of the car but they dident

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Vinni, Brighton says...
4:27pm Sun 10 Feb 08

Phoebe & Izzy wrote:
Firstly \"argus web master\" so many accidents are caused by police moving too fast in on cars, therefore there is more possibility of the car crashing. being chased by police could also cause the drive to feel nervous and they may panick and lose control of the car. so what kind of comment was yours?.
Secondly - \"Kickboxer\" He Wasn\'t A \"Friend\" He is a FRIEND and always will be. Yes, he was driving the car and caused it to crash,but who was to know a horrible accident would happen?. imagine if you were the \"scumbag\" driving the car, panicking at the outcome, when it\'s too late to stop? would you feel scared? or would you be calm? Hmm.. (Please dont comment back saying \" Ohh i wouldn\'t put myself in that position\" because i said IMAGINE). You say that it doesn\'t matter where he\'s from, so why even say it in the first place?,you dont live in Whitehawk and dont know about the neighbourhood, so your not one to judge whether they are \"Whitehawk scumbags\" or not.
“so many accidents are caused by police moving too fast in on cars, therefore there is more possibility of the car crashing.”
Not sure what that on Earth means. There are no statistics in Brighton to prove that, in fact I think recent news coverage of police getting more driving training suggest the opposite. Silly coment really. Police are highly trained at driving fast, some random kid probably isn’t as well trained, and needs to be stopped. Are you trying to suggest police don’t peruse cars that fail to stop that could have burglars in, drug dealers, child kidnappers, drunk drivers etc? What on earth next?

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Sad Loss, Brighton says...
5:26pm Sun 10 Feb 08

The only person to blame in this situation is the driver of the car. If the police signal for you to stop, you stop. Theres no way the police can by blamed for following cars that dont't stop. Otherwise, rob a bank, shoot someone and then jump in a motor and you're home free. Perhaps now we should have a policy that if you fail to stop for the police the driver is shot. At least that way the only person who is killed/injured has a choise!

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laura m, brighton says...
5:39pm Sun 10 Feb 08

you can do this mate! keep going strong ur a fighter not a loser u will pull threw!!!! get wel soon swettie xxx

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Steve, brighton says...
6:44pm Sun 10 Feb 08

It amazes me that some people see fit to write such awful comments when so many are clearly suffering. The loss of a life so young is no laughing matter, no matter how it was brought about. Those of you who sit behind your PC screens using false names and openly debate the fact that some of the contributors here cannot spell or due to economic restraint have to live in a certain part of town, are, frankly, despicable. You really show the human race at it's lowest. To die prematurely is awful. To stand over the deceased and laugh at their misfortune is nothing short of evil. If you must make your ill placed comments then at least have the balls to write your full (real) name so you can be identified. I hope your karma treats you well.

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sadie, emily, jacob and sue, brighton says...
7:08pm Sun 10 Feb 08

well everyone who knew matty will know he was defo one of the best!! i loved him loads and cant actually believe this **** has happened!! quite good for him tho coz now he can party and do what he wants with my bro without geting in trouble and defo wont get nagged by people(he hated that)!! have fun matty wont you!! dont bug people to much haha!! we were great together we both new that... long time werent it huni!!.....x x x
R.I.P my darlin!! i love you yeh and remember when you hear im coming up with you crack open the drinks i think ill need some after livin in this place for so long!!!...x x x x x x x love you!!... Sadie ...x x x x

R.I.P Matty!! i will always remeber that smily face of yours... :):) Emily ...x x

R.I.P Matty... thanks for all the times you made me laugh and make sure you and matt stay out of deep trouble yee!! Jacob...x x x

be at peace with matt... always in my thoughts... love Sue!!...x x

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John, Someplace says...
8:35pm Sun 10 Feb 08

whitehawkboi wrote:
as a former car thief from 90s i always stopped when chased by police but they should back off when they know the outcome look at the person last year or 06 when the police pc katy merchant chased a bloke over the cliffs the boys in blue should let them get away and be more cautious when dealing with young people who are still learning write from wrong its easy to be tempted to drive without a licence when u think u can rip matty
I can't believe a comment like this! While I feel sorry for the dead lad's family, They all made the choice to get in a stolen car. Why should the police back off from these scumbags, that take things that honest, decent people work hard for! If a kid of say 15 -20 doesn't know right from wrong then the parents only have themselves to blame! That is what is so wrong with this country, turning into a soft option for all the criminals and scumbags! Should bring back the birch and national service. Yes when i was a kid i knew going nicking apples was wrong, i got caught, clipped round the ear by the copper and belt by dad when the copper took me home, I never did it again! Nowadays they give them a bloody wii or ps3 or say they have adhd! As for all those on here saying someone has lost a life and people shouldn't leave comments on here etc. wanna think, they properly know the driver of the car as well, will they go give him a hug when he gets bail or blame him for the death? chances are it will be the 1st and he's the culprit as without his choice and actions, this wouldn't of happened! After all this is a public forum for comments and debate, 1 of the last things we can do is this once great country isn't it? With freedom of speech, although that is slowly being taken away as well!

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Helen c., says...
9:03pm Sun 10 Feb 08

I have just heard the tragic news. Had the pleasure of meeting Matty just last Thursday and found him to be courteous and respectful, bright and full of aspirations. I am saddened to hear of his death. My sincere condolences to his family and friends. Kind thoughts also to those involved and everyone else affected.

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vicky and ricky, whitehawk says...
9:25pm Sun 10 Feb 08

YOU WILL BE MISSED BY SO MANY PEOPLE

ALL IN OUR HEART
R.I.P MATTY

WE ARE THINKING OF YOU AND ALL YOUR FAMILY

**** R.I.P ****
LOVE VICKY AND RICKY

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kirstie, whitehalk says...
9:29pm Sun 10 Feb 08

R.I.P matty.im going to miss you.i still cant get it in to my head that this has really happend.love u allways kirstie x x

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claire (daughter in law of sally), horsham says...
9:37pm Sun 10 Feb 08

I am absolutely discusted by some of the comments on this page. This should be to pay respects, if you have nothing respectful to say..... say nothing. My thoughts are with the family and friends everyone makes mistakes and it should never be the case that a child should go before his/her parents. Deepest sympathy to all the family and friends. Claire x

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M, Brighton says...
9:30am Mon 11 Feb 08

Firstly my condolences to everyone involved, I can only imagine how awful this is for you all.

"Yes, he was driving the car and caused it to crash,but who was to know a horrible accident would happen?. "
Are you ACTUALLY serious? Without wishing to sound nasty, the driver should have realised that when he was being chased by the police he should have stopped. He clearly is some sort of idiot, not caring about his friends or anyone around him. His reckless driving caused the accident, if he wasn't such a f**kwit it wouldn't have happened. Simple really.
I can't stand anyone defending people who drive like that. They ARE scum and they SHOULD be off of our streets.

Secondly, the Argus website isn't necessairily the place to air your condolences. I would have thought it would have been better to do it elsewhere. This is an open debate and even idiots can join in, so I'd stop reading it if I was as easily offended as you.
While I completely sympathise with the families and emergency services involved, this comes down to one person and one person only and I hope he gets locked away for a LONG time.

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s, whitehawk says...
9:42am Mon 11 Feb 08

Big advert to bring curfews in if ever i saw one. I am sick of all these feral kids running around doing what they want, and expect the rest of us to have sympathy when something bad happens.
There should be a bit more concern for the people who were rudely awakened at that time of the morning. They are innocent in all this. Stop blaming the police, and take responsibility for your own actions. The world doesnt owe you a living.

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basil Brush, in a hole! says...
9:59am Mon 11 Feb 08

s wrote:
Big advert to bring curfews in if ever i saw one. I am sick of all these feral kids running around doing what they want, and expect the rest of us to have sympathy when something bad happens. There should be a bit more concern for the people who were rudely awakened at that time of the morning. They are innocent in all this. Stop blaming the police, and take responsibility for your own actions. The world doesnt owe you a living.
just like to say that i have been brought up in whitehawk n lived here for the past 24 yrs. i'm very offended by the comments given by S! i'm not feral, i go to work and pay tax!! just because i live here dont tar me with the same BRUSH!!
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s, whitehawk says...
10:11am Mon 11 Feb 08

basil Brush wrote:
s wrote: Big advert to bring curfews in if ever i saw one. I am sick of all these feral kids running around doing what they want, and expect the rest of us to have sympathy when something bad happens. There should be a bit more concern for the people who were rudely awakened at that time of the morning. They are innocent in all this. Stop blaming the police, and take responsibility for your own actions. The world doesnt owe you a living.
just like to say that i have been brought up in whitehawk n lived here for the past 24 yrs. i'm very offended by the comments given by S! i'm not feral, i go to work and pay tax!! just because i live here dont tar me with the same BRUSH!!
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i am born and bred whitehawk, alot longer than you. I hardly think a 24 year old is classsed as a feral kid. I work and pay taxes, but doesnt mean i can run around and act like a halfwit.Grow up and read what i said properly instead of running your mouth.

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bill, in doors says...
10:14am Mon 11 Feb 08

here we go with the chav comments again. . so what it the kid may have warn trackies?? yeah i agree he chose to get in the car as did the others but he didnt choose to be driven through someones garden wall or run from the police, it was the driver. what do you expect them to have done going at high speed? jump out whilst its moving. For the ppl makin nasty comments:- how would you feel if you were reading those sort of comments about your son/daughter??? not nice is it?

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E. Williams, brighton says...
10:16am Mon 11 Feb 08

It is all so sad,but what were the parents doing to allow their children out at that time of night? Maybe any other children under 18yrs should be placed in care (for their own safty} untill the parents come up with an answer. One must feel concerned about the other young children, that those familys have.

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E, whitehawk says...
10:16am Mon 11 Feb 08

Ok you lot are bit ******* harsh! yes i know they cud of hurt people but all this is going to be read by the families!! have some respect!! and stop with the whitehawk bussiness!! yeah we have got a bad name but it doesnt mean all of us are bad!! look at b'ton alone known as the gay city, no 1 is crying bout that are they??!! How did any of them know that this was going to happen. yes it was wrong of them and we all know it happened bcoz of the chase but car crashes can happen to anybody, no1 knows its gonna happen!! all u that are rytin harsh comments are sick! you got no **** respect for any1 but yaself!! fair enuff chase these lot but wata bout max weston? he did nuffink wrong!! dont agree with that at all! have some fucing respect. for the families!!.. fair enuff it was the kids faults but their families didnt tell em to do it did they?? their families didnt give em the keys saying go on go drive around!!! so have respect for the mums n dads! put ya self in thier situation if one of your famili members died and you got all this abuse. you al need to grow up!!
RIP matty xxx

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Bob, Brighton says...
1:08pm Mon 11 Feb 08

The only people who come out of this sad event with any dignity are the police who were doing their jobs.

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Margaret, Brighton says...
3:49pm Mon 11 Feb 08

R.I.P Matt Miss Ya

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KJH, brighton says...
4:08pm Mon 11 Feb 08

LET'S BE TRUTHFUL IT WAS THERE FAULT FOR GETTING IN THE CAR BUT HAVE SIMPATHY FOR THE POOR FAMILY AND FREINDS OF THESE CHILDREN WE HAVE ALL DONE SILLY THINGS MAYBE THERE'S WAS A STUPID MISTAKE BUT THEY NO THAT YOU DONT HAVE TO ADD NASTY COMMENTS TO THERE CONCENCE ASWELL!!

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sherina, brighton says...
4:12pm Mon 11 Feb 08

i just want to say how sorry i am and i hope his family can get throgh this r.i.p matty

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Jessie-Ellen, brighton says...
4:37pm Mon 11 Feb 08

R.I.P Matty

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Marcus, Whitehawk says...
6:27pm Mon 11 Feb 08

E wrote:
Ok you lot are bit ******* harsh! yes i know they cud of hurt people but all this is going to be read by the families!! have some respect!! and stop with the whitehawk bussiness!! yeah we have got a bad name but it doesnt mean all of us are bad!! look at b'ton alone known as the gay city, no 1 is crying bout that are they??!! How did any of them know that this was going to happen. yes it was wrong of them and we all know it happened bcoz of the chase but car crashes can happen to anybody, no1 knows its gonna happen!! all u that are rytin harsh comments are sick! you got no **** respect for any1 but yaself!! fair enuff chase these lot but wata bout max weston? he did nuffink wrong!! dont agree with that at all! have some fucing respect. for the families!!.. fair enuff it was the kids faults but their families didnt tell em to do it did they?? their families didnt give em the keys saying go on go drive around!!! so have respect for the mums n dads! put ya self in thier situation if one of your famili members died and you got all this abuse. you al need to grow up!!
RIP matty xxx
That's because there is nothing wrong with being gay so why would anyone bang on about that? being gay isnt a crime. Driving a car unlafuly with no insurance, tax, licence or expereince and driving at high speed from the old bill, not stopping then crashing is a crime and a dangerous one at that! homophobe!

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gary, brighton says...
7:14pm Mon 11 Feb 08

Being gay, used to be a crime!

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xxx, brighton says...
8:31pm Mon 11 Feb 08

All alone, or in two's,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.

And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall.
R.I.P
MATTY

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c, brighton says...
11:23pm Mon 11 Feb 08

I didnt know Matt but I hear the female passenger passed away too. Im absolutely horrified that these young people have lost their lives. It is truly tragic.
I hope others will learn from this stupidity and that this wont happen again. My thoughts are with the families of those who have died, also with the Police who had to witness this terrible accident.
The driver will have to live with this for the rest of his life, and rightly so. Such a waste, it breaks my heart.
Rest in peace kids x

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policelover, Brighton says...
8:54am Tue 12 Feb 08

E wrote:
Ok you lot are bit ******* harsh! yes i know they cud of hurt people but all this is going to be read by the families!! have some respect!! and stop with the whitehawk bussiness!! yeah we have got a bad name but it doesnt mean all of us are bad!! look at b\'ton alone known as the gay city, no 1 is crying bout that are they??!! How did any of them know that this was going to happen. yes it was wrong of them and we all know it happened bcoz of the chase but car crashes can happen to anybody, no1 knows its gonna happen!! all u that are rytin harsh comments are sick! you got no **** respect for any1 but yaself!! fair enuff chase these lot but wata bout max weston? he did nuffink wrong!! dont agree with that at all! have some fucing respect. for the families!!.. fair enuff it was the kids faults but their families didnt tell em to do it did they?? their families didnt give em the keys saying go on go drive around!!! so have respect for the mums n dads! put ya self in thier situation if one of your famili members died and you got all this abuse. you al need to grow up!! RIP matty xxx
Do you live in the ghetto in New York? Perhaps you should have paid more attention at school and learned to write properly.
The reason we have laws is to protect the law abiding citizen from the criminal. Driving a car under age with no insurance is a criminal offence. If the police tell you to stop, that's what you should do. The driver of this car clearly had absolutely no regard for the law, his passengers or anyone else. Now someone is dead.
I hope he goes to prison for a very long time, and I hope his stupid actions haunt him for the rest of his life.
Also I think you are wrong on one fact. As far as I know the driver's mother bought the car for him even though he was more than a year too young to drive it on the road. What does that tell you?

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Andy, Home says...
8:58am Tue 12 Feb 08

jade banks wrote:
well maybe 1 day this will happen to u!!!! and im not to botherd if my spelling isn\'t correct i have other thing\'s on my mind, now u can stay here all day and laugh at my spelling and laugh because sum1 just died, but im going to spend the rest of the day remembering my friend. R.I P MATT, UD PROB JUST BE LAUGHING BOUT WHAT THSES SMALL MINDED PPL R SAYING ANYWAYS WUDNT U, HOPE U IN A SAFER PLACE X
Small minded? Judging by your grasp of the English language, i think you're potentially the small minded one.

R.I.P in anycase, may that lads death plague his mate's life until his own demise.

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JJ, Lewes says...
11:22am Tue 12 Feb 08

I am absolutely discusted by some of the comments on this page. This should be to pay respects, if you have nothing respectful to say..... say nothing. My thoughts are with the family and friends everyone makes mistakes

Erm..mistake? Some mistake..

This site is not just a book of condolence..people are angry and rightly so!


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Not wrong John, Marina says...
12:08pm Tue 12 Feb 08

I have read the story over the last few days.
May i express my condolences to Matt's family first as i wish that no-one to be killed or hurt. I never knew any of these people involved in this sad story but have to comment on a few points.
Its easy to say that "Yeah, they are all loveable rogues, heart of gold , etc, etc." but you are missing the point. ALL of them decided that they were going in the car, ALL of them knew the drivers age and state (alcohol levels) and whether he had insurance, license that no-one has at the age of 15. I understand Hilal jumped out. Even if the crash didnt happen that was the BEST decision that kid has ever made. Not only due to what happened, but a simple question of whats right and what is wrong. The others carried on regardless breaking more laws that are in place for us drivers. By being thoughtless minded and showing disregard and disrespect for laws, they carried on putting all over road users and pedestrians at risk of injury. Yes a tragedy has happened and i think they might learn thier lessons but only if they get punished, as this was not only the drivers thought to speed off. A 90% completed rate on need for speed on the ps2 and alcohol, along with a pinch of peer pressure seems to be a reciepe for destruction.Yes there have been a death and injuries (get well soon Simon) and this could of been easily avoided if these youngsters showed some lack of respect for laws for these "heart of gold, loveable rogues!"
As for the 'nxt txt genar8ion', please learn to spell and write something constructive as all your remarks are laden with ill fitted insults. Your remarks to your friend seem very disrespectful in a book of condolences and i understand your getting grief for a few individuals on here but all your remarks are truly not acceptable. It does not take 2 minutes to run a spell check program.

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Andy, Home says...
1:26pm Tue 12 Feb 08

E. Williams wrote:
It is all so sad,but what were the parents doing to allow their children out at that time of night? Maybe any other children under 18yrs should be placed in care (for their own safty} untill the parents come up with an answer. One must feel concerned about the other young children, that those familys have.
E Dizzle.

You have perfectly summed up for us what's wrong with the country.

Thanks a million

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Andy, Home says...
1:28pm Tue 12 Feb 08

E wrote:
Ok you lot are bit ******* harsh! yes i know they cud of hurt people but all this is going to be read by the families!! have some respect!! and stop with the whitehawk bussiness!! yeah we have got a bad name but it doesnt mean all of us are bad!! look at b'ton alone known as the gay city, no 1 is crying bout that are they??!! How did any of them know that this was going to happen. yes it was wrong of them and we all know it happened bcoz of the chase but car crashes can happen to anybody, no1 knows its gonna happen!! all u that are rytin harsh comments are sick! you got no **** respect for any1 but yaself!! fair enuff chase these lot but wata bout max weston? he did nuffink wrong!! dont agree with that at all! have some fucing respect. for the families!!.. fair enuff it was the kids faults but their families didnt tell em to do it did they?? their families didnt give em the keys saying go on go drive around!!! so have respect for the mums n dads! put ya self in thier situation if one of your famili members died and you got all this abuse. you al need to grow up!! RIP matty xxx
Apologies E Williams , i was supposed to quote this post, not yours.

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Patcham High School, Brighton says...
2:40pm Tue 12 Feb 08

It was a allful tragedy. One of our good mates was in the car but we no simon is a stronge boy and will pull though and the All of his mates at Patcham High School asked to send there love to simon and the family ...& we nedd him back becoz Danni && Farrah Are missing him dearly and his lovely smile .....You Can Do It Si....**** YOU CANT DO ONE YET SI)

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Mrs McClusky, Grange Hill says...
5:01pm Tue 12 Feb 08

Patcham High School must be so proud.

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Ro-land, G Hill says...
9:44pm Tue 12 Feb 08

Mrs McClusky wrote:
Patcham High School must be so proud.
I think you just summed it up there miss.

As stated previously - mourn the death of the English language because over the last few days on this page it has been slaughtered.

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Amber Ayling, Whitehawk says...
9:48am Wed 13 Feb 08

You Lot Make Me Feel Sick Someone Has Lost Their Life And All You Can Do Is Argue! As For The Person Whos Wall It Is You Can Replace Your Wall But You Can't Replace Matty. If You Carry On **** Complaining I Will Smash Your Wall Down Even More You Nasty ****. The Lot Of You Should Feel Terrible How Would You Feel If It Was Your Family? As For Blaming It On The Driver I Have Known Him All My Life And He Is Such A Nice Person So You Can All Back Off Away From Him!! You Make Me Sick Argueing Over A Dead Body. Its Not Bout Whether Things Were Right Or Wrong Its About Showing Support. If You Aint Got Anything Nice To Say Dont Say Anything At All. R.I.P Matty Mate!!

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kayne, whitehawk says...
10:14am Wed 13 Feb 08

i carnt beleve matty died also my mate is in hospital ... r.i.p matty

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Sara Mccabe, Whitehawl says...
10:22am Wed 13 Feb 08

I hope you alot are ahppy with your self.. and the pocile, whitehawk have now lost a truely kind good lad who didnt dersever to die.. and a **** wall and window cant be fixed but the pain that gose throigh mattys family cant or that gose throught whitehawk , i bet half the people on here didnt even know matty, and you have the cheek to come on here and slag him off , well if you wanna slag him off yeah I HOPE YOU DIE TONIGHT IN YOUR SLEEP SOO YOUR FAMILY HAS TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PAIN YOU **** **** and as for micheal... he has to live with this for the rest off his life killing his own best mate, soo show a bit off respect atleast .. and if you ever come in to whitehawk i would watch your back... whitehawk aint a bad place its a good places where we sttick together and get throught things like this .... miss you matty loveyou loads R.I.P

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THE HARSH TRUTH, not to far from you. says...
11:28am Wed 13 Feb 08

Sara Mccabe wrote:
I hope you alot are ahppy with your self.. and the pocile, whitehawk have now lost a truely kind good lad who didnt dersever to die.. and a **** wall and window cant be fixed but the pain that gose throigh mattys family cant or that gose throught whitehawk , i bet half the people on here didnt even know matty, and you have the cheek to come on here and slag him off , well if you wanna slag him off yeah I HOPE YOU DIE TONIGHT IN YOUR SLEEP SOO YOUR FAMILY HAS TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PAIN YOU **** **** and as for micheal... he has to live with this for the rest off his life killing his own best mate, soo show a bit off respect atleast .. and if you ever come in to whitehawk i would watch your back... whitehawk aint a bad place its a good places where we sttick together and get throught things like this .... miss you matty loveyou loads R.I.P
i certainly dont think its mattys fault and would never speak ill of the dead.but your language and spiteful remarks help noone least of all the credibilty of your friends,who are so called heroes.how dare you ask anyone to respect a KILLER.never,not in a million years.i can RESPECT the fact that the kids in the car are young,iresponsible and niave.as for the driver,he will get what he deserves.if you carry on respecting this way of life you will end up either in jail or worse dead.all the kid have to RESPECT THE LAW.

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me, planet normal says...
11:33am Wed 13 Feb 08

Amber Ayling wrote:
You Lot Make Me Feel Sick Someone Has Lost Their Life And All You Can Do Is Argue! As For The Person Whos Wall It Is You Can Replace Your Wall But You Can't Replace Matty. If You Carry On **** Complaining I Will Smash Your Wall Down Even More You Nasty ****. The Lot Of You Should Feel Terrible How Would You Feel If It Was Your Family? As For Blaming It On The Driver I Have Known Him All My Life And He Is Such A Nice Person So You Can All Back Off Away From Him!! You Make Me Sick Argueing Over A Dead Body. Its Not Bout Whether Things Were Right Or Wrong Its About Showing Support. If You Aint Got Anything Nice To Say Dont Say Anything At All. R.I.P Matty Mate!!
what a nice person.i really want to be his mate.get a life.

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Amber Ayling, Whitehawk says...
11:45am Wed 13 Feb 08

me wrote:
Amber Ayling wrote: You Lot Make Me Feel Sick Someone Has Lost Their Life And All You Can Do Is Argue! As For The Person Whos Wall It Is You Can Replace Your Wall But You Can\'t Replace Matty. If You Carry On **** Complaining I Will Smash Your Wall Down Even More You Nasty ****. The Lot Of You Should Feel Terrible How Would You Feel If It Was Your Family? As For Blaming It On The Driver I Have Known Him All My Life And He Is Such A Nice Person So You Can All Back Off Away From Him!! You Make Me Sick Argueing Over A Dead Body. Its Not Bout Whether Things Were Right Or Wrong Its About Showing Support. If You Aint Got Anything Nice To Say Dont Say Anything At All. R.I.P Matty Mate!!
what a nice person.i really want to be his mate.get a life.
He Is Dont Judge Him You Dont Know Him They All Decided To Get In The Car So Why Dont You **** Off

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me, planet normal says...
12:16pm Wed 13 Feb 08

yeah they all got in the car,only one person drove it and crashed it you moron.so sort your morals out.

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Sara, whitehawk says...
12:33pm Wed 13 Feb 08

Right, you **** **** .. he is a lovely kid and all he wanted to do was get them home safely if the poicle didnt chase him and scare him this wouldnt off happen ok,, so you get your morals right you nasty pieace off ****

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sara, whitehawk says...
12:41pm Wed 13 Feb 08

i certainly dont think its mattys fault and would never speak ill of the dead.but your language and spiteful remarks help noone least of all the credibilty of your friends,who are so called heroes.how dare you ask anyone to respect a KILLER .never,not in a million years.i can RESPECT the fact that the kids in the car are young,iresponsible and niave.as for the driver,he will get what he deserves.if you carry on respecting this way of life you will end up either in jail or worse dead.all the kid have to RESPECT THE LAW.




hes not a **** killer, do you think he wanted to kill his own best mate.. cos if you do your sick and you need your head checked out mate... hes trying the best to get throught this but with heartless people like you hes never gunna get throught it
and you wouldnt like it if one off your mates got called a killer so dont do it to others you spikefull cow

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harsh truth, lewes says...
1:09pm Wed 13 Feb 08

Sara wrote:
Right, you **** **** .. he is a lovely kid and all he wanted to do was get them home safely if the poicle didnt chase him and scare him this wouldnt off happen ok,, so you get your morals right you nasty pieace off ****
typical,he wanted to get them home safely!!!!!,getting in a car without a licence,being underage,running from the police,not putting his foot on the BRAKE.COME ON.so if one of your family was hit by that car you would say all what your saying now.no way,you would be hurt,angry and want justice.im not saying that he meant to do it.just that he has now killed his mate.im just being truthful.the police have to do a job.im entitled to say what i think.

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Sara&amp;Amber, whitehawk says...
2:08pm Wed 13 Feb 08

harsh truth wrote:
Sara wrote: Right, you **** **** .. he is a lovely kid and all he wanted to do was get them home safely if the poicle didnt chase him and scare him this wouldnt off happen ok,, so you get your morals right you nasty pieace off ****
typical,he wanted to get them home safely!!!!!,getting in a car without a licence,being underage,running from the police,not putting his foot on the BRAKE.COME ON.so if one of your family was hit by that car you would say all what your saying now.no way,you would be hurt,angry and want justice.im not saying that he meant to do it.just that he has now killed his mate.im just being truthful.the police have to do a job.im entitled to say what i think.
Wait, well my two uncles died in a crash soo you cant say i duno what its like, home safely thats all he wanted to do ...dont you think he knows he has to live with it that hes killed his mate.. IT DONT MAKE HIM A KILLER you nasty pieace off ****..

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OED, a shelf says...
10:10am Thu 14 Feb 08

Sara&Amber wrote:
harsh truth wrote:
Sara wrote: Right, you **** **** .. he is a lovely kid and all he wanted to do was get them home safely if the poicle didnt chase him and scare him this wouldnt off happen ok,, so you get your morals right you nasty pieace off ****
typical,he wanted to get them home safely!!!!!,getting in a car without a licence,being underage,running from the police,not putting his foot on the BRAKE.COME ON.so if one of your family was hit by that car you would say all what your saying now.no way,you would be hurt,angry and want justice.im not saying that he meant to do it.just that he has now killed his mate.im just being truthful.the police have to do a job.im entitled to say what i think.
Wait, well my two uncles died in a crash soo you cant say i duno what its like, home safely thats all he wanted to do ...dont you think he knows he has to live with it that hes killed his mate.. IT DONT MAKE HIM A KILLER you nasty pieace off ****..
dont you think he knows he has to live with it that hes killed his mate.. IT DONT MAKE HIM A KILLER...
Definition of a KILLER. Somebody who KILLS.

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Amber Ayling, Whitehawk says...
10:25am Thu 14 Feb 08

me wrote:
yeah they all got in the car,only one person drove it and crashed it you moron.so sort your morals out.
Sort My Morals Out...
Are You Thick Or Something Someone Has Died And All You Can Do Is Argue!! ****
NOt Only One Person Drove It They All Had A Go So Why Dont You Get All The Facts Before You Start Thinking You KNow It All!! MUG

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Amber Ayling, Whitehawk says...
10:30am Thu 14 Feb 08

OED wrote:
Sara&Amber wrote:
harsh truth wrote:
Sara wrote: Right, you **** **** .. he is a lovely kid and all he wanted to do was get them home safely if the poicle didnt chase him and scare him this wouldnt off happen ok,, so you get your morals right you nasty pieace off ****
typical,he wanted to get them home safely!!!!!,getting in a car without a licence,being underage,running from the police,not putting his foot on the BRAKE.COME ON.so if one of your family was hit by that car you would say all what your saying now.no way,you would be hurt,angry and want justice.im not saying that he meant to do it.just that he has now killed his mate.im just being truthful.the police have to do a job.im entitled to say what i think.
Wait, well my two uncles died in a crash soo you cant say i duno what its like, home safely thats all he wanted to do ...dont you think he knows he has to live with it that hes killed his mate.. IT DONT MAKE HIM A KILLER you nasty pieace off ****..
dont you think he knows he has to live with it that hes killed his mate.. IT DONT MAKE HIM A KILLER... Definition of a KILLER. Somebody who KILLS.
Shut Your Mouth Or I Put You 6 Feet Under You Should Of Died Not Matty If You Are Just Going To Argue Over A Dead Body. Matty Aint Here To Defend Himself And The Driver Is Soo Upset So If You Lot Cant Say Anything Nice Then **** Off.

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Abbie, Brighton says...
4:24pm Thu 14 Feb 08

For all these people that sit here cussing these young kids...dont you think they know theyve done wrong? and do you think for a second if the children had known what was going to happen they would have done it? No, so get off there cases. just leave the family and friends who knew him to grieve. R.I.P Matt

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Amber Ayling&amp;Sara McCabe, Whitehawk says...
4:39pm Thu 14 Feb 08

Abbie wrote:
For all these people that sit here cussing these young kids...dont you think they know theyve done wrong? and do you think for a second if the children had known what was going to happen they would have done it? No, so get off there cases. just leave the family and friends who knew him to grieve. R.I.P Matt
Thank You Someone Agrees With Me All We Want To Do Is Grieve For The Loss OF Our Friend And You Aint Helping Making Stupid Comments! Why Dont You All Juts **** Off Unless You Are Going To Show Some Respect R.I.P Matty Always Remember ¢¾

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Marks Dad, Brighton says...
3:31pm Sun 17 Feb 08

This whole matter is not a 'Whitehawk thing', not a 'spelling test', not about 'shallow, dramatic outbursts of grief',not a matter of 'police did wrong' and not a matter of 'mistakes' as some of the previous comments suggest.
It is simply a matter of personal responsibility.

All involved had a degree of responsibility and each should be prepared to acknowledge and accept the truth of the part they played.

Each person getting in the car had responsibility for their own safety, knowing what risks they were placing themselves in. Did they know the age of the driver, did they know the experience of the driver, did they know the sobriety of the driver? If not.... why not. The only excuse can be ignorance of the dangers, but these people were all old enough to recognise danger, and be allowed to be unaccompanied in public late at night.

The driver of the car. That person had responsibilty to take steps to protect the safety of passengers, other road users and use the vehicle in a way that did not cause harm to any other person or their property. As a member of society they also had a responsibility to abide by the laws of the country (even the ones they did not like). Did the person driving the car in this instance Do any of these things?

As for the police driver, that person had a responsibility for the protection of the public (including the occupants of the car) and allowing the courts to uphold the law of the nation. They do not uphold it themselves, merely present the facts to the Courts who are then in a position to decide on culpability and sentance. Once the situation began to unfold and suspicions were roused, then the officer would have been failing on all counts until they established exactly what the situation was regarding the vehicle and all the occupants. In this instance they pursued the vehicle in order to meet their responsibility. They did nothing exceeding their responsibility in doing so and did so in a manner complying with all the current proceedures and laws governing the subject.

The people with developmental responsibility for all those involved had a responsibility to educate their charges with an understanding of what is right and what is wrong, an ability to assess the risks involved in activities they undertake and a recognition responsibility to society and to show respect for others and to others.

People with developmental responsibility are not just parents, it is all those who are in a position to personally influence the behaviour and attitude of the individual. How many close 'friends' and family knew that a person under 17 had access to driving a car on a road? What did they do about it?

The one thing that should stand out from the above is the constant use of the Phrase PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Until we all realise that the time has passed for this society to allow each other to make excuses in a feeble attempt to avoid the cold truth, then these situations will continue with more and more regularity. I am sad for those people who have lost a person close to them, or had to pick up the pieces with those that survived the whole experience. The only positive that can come out of this is for all those people to be agents for change and get this society back on a balance where criminality and anti social behaviour is no longer acceptable, until someone dies!!

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meg, brighton says...
9:47pm Sun 17 Feb 08

i was matthew's ex and a good mate of his. he was a lovely guy, no angel but everyone makes mistakes and the driver of that car was a friend of mine too and i know he didn't go out of his way to kill his best mate and leave another of his mates in intensive care. he isn't to blame they all knew what they were doing when they stepped in the car u can't change the past but blaming people isn't gonna help, don't u think his got anough to deal with and his sisters are best friends of mine and they are going through hell at the moment. so please think of people that know him and have to read this they don't want to hear they're mates getting blamed for a tragic accident. rest in peace matthew... gone but not forgotten. 11.1.91 - 9.2.08 xx

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Marks Dad, Brighton says...
2:00am Wed 20 Feb 08

Did the vehicle crash because of bad weather, severe road conditions, avoiding another vehicle or person?? THAT would be an ACCIDENT. Driving at an excessive speed, recklessly without consideration of the consequences is not an ACCIDENT it is a deliberate action, which in this instance has cost human life.
Why are the terms 'accident' and 'mistake' being used to avoid the truth that the blame for the crash lay squarely at the feet of the driver. I make no apology for using the word blame in this entry, although previously I called it personal responsibility. It is a shame that others are so ready to make excuses and try to minimise what this person has done. Any 'good friends' and family will have expressed their condolences in person to those concerned.If I have said anything that is not true then my entries will be removed.

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Ben, Stoke on Trent says...
8:59am Wed 20 Feb 08

Bottom Line. tragedy but completely avoidable. No one has to run from the police, people do because they either think its big and clever or because they don't want to face the consequence of their own actions. Either way it can end in this way which no one wants

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Shannon, WHITEHAWK says...
3:04pm Thu 21 Feb 08

All Im Going To Say Is Stop These Stupid Aruments! Whats The Point,Etleast Come On This Page And Show Your Respects For Matty!
I Can Tell You One Thing,I Bet Argus Are F ucking Loving this !!!



RIP Matty
ILOVEYOU(L)x

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Amber Ayling, Whitehawk says...
12:08pm Wed 26 Mar 08

Look The Truth Is Going To Uncovered Soon... At At Least Matty's Family Got To Give Him A Good Send Off!!
If Everyone Has Finished Arhueing Now Maybe We Can All Show A Little Respect!
R.I.P Matty, Your Safe In God's Hands Now(L)

Everyday That Passes, Is A Day Closer To Seeing You! (L)

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STILL CONFUSED, Home says...
12:18am Wed 16 Apr 08

I still dont quite understand what you people dont get. MATT wasnt the one driving the car. So MATT wasnt responsable for his death. Why dont you get this? Please i am not starting another debate. I simply do not understand why people cant take in that MATT wasnt the 'selfish, stupid, idiot, or whatever else you've called him' that was driving. MATT was not in controll of the driver. MATT made the decision to enter that car yes. But MATT didnt run from the law, The driver did. R.I.P Matt. xx

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