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Whitehawk crash victim named
6:52pm Saturday 9th February 2008
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A teenager who died in a car being followed by police has been named by friends.
Matt Sadler, 17, was taken to the Royal Sussex County Hospital early on Saturday morning but died of his injuries.
A police patrol car saw a red Mazda containing three men and two women, all from Whitehawk, being driven erratically in Bevendean, Brighton, at 1am on Saturday, and signalled it to stop.
The driver did not respond and was followed by a police car to Whitehawk, Brighton. He crashed into a brick wall in Wilson Avenue and careered through two gardens.
All five were taken to the Royal Sussex County Hospital.
Matty died and a 16-year-old youth remains in critical condition.
A 15-year-old girl was discharged earlier today and the 15-year-old driver and another 15-year-old girl are recovering.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission(IPCC) has launched an investigation into the crash and has deployed two investigators to the scene.
IPCC commissioner Tom Davies said: "My condolences go to the family and friends of the dead man.
"This must have been a traumatic incident for everybody involved, including the members of the emergency services who attended.
"The IPCC investigation will be independent and proportionate."
Some 14 police cars, a fire engine and police helicopter were called to the scene, according to a neighbour.
Sussex Police arrested the driver of the car who tried to flee but was located by the police helicopter.
Warren Morgan, Whitehawk councillor and chairman of the Whitehawk Crime Prevention Forum, said: "My thoughts are with the families of those people involved in the crash.
"If it is confirmed that they are from Whitehawk I am sure that the strong local community there will want to focus on supporting those families as they deal with what has happened.
"The Independent Police Complaints Commission are investigating what took place and everyone should await the outcome of that investigation before giving any further reaction."
Mary Mears, deputy leader of Brighton and Hove City Council, said: "It is very tragic and we will be working with the community to help them through."
A spokeswoman for the South East Ambulance Service said: "We did everything we could to save the patient.
"This was a dreadful incident and our thoughts are with the families."
IPCC said it could not comment on the identity of the dead teenager.
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jo, southwick says...
7:23pm Sat 9 Feb 08
a boy 4 white hawk, white hawk says...
7:26pm Sat 9 Feb 08
a boy in whitehawk, whitehawk says...
7:33pm Sat 9 Feb 08
R>I>P :(
mat
Abiding Citizen, Brighton says...
7:37pm Sat 9 Feb 08
a boy 4 white hawk wrote:Yes, I am saying that it is not the best place, and why should preferential treatment be given, just because the person who has died came from that part of town. If the boy who died came from Hove Park, would the council help he residents of that area 'deal' with their loss? I doubt it very much.
what are u trying to say that whitehawk is a bad place and we dont deserve to get help a boy died so leave the place alone and give your respect
boy 4 white hawk, whitehawk says...
7:43pm Sat 9 Feb 08
TYSON, whitehawk says...
8:03pm Sat 9 Feb 08
matts sister, brighton says...
8:06pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Tia, Brighton says...
8:09pm Sat 9 Feb 08
R.I.P Matty
R.I.P Chelsea
Tia, Brighton says...
8:13pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Im Sorry To Hear About Your Wall Lol
xx
Anon, Bevendean, Brighton says...
8:28pm Sat 9 Feb 08
People seem to think they are invincible and I'm sorry but this is the reality.
My thoughts are with Matt' parents.
whitehawk friend, whitehawk says...
8:30pm Sat 9 Feb 08
i come from, whitehawk says...
8:32pm Sat 9 Feb 08
whitehawk friend, whitehawk says...
8:39pm Sat 9 Feb 08
david cameron-young, abingdon says...
8:40pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Peter wrote:the police dont report a second death, although i noticed something about it on the previous article. whatever happened it is so sad for all involved, but why were these kids out at that time of night
What about the Girl Chelsea who also died today in that accident.
alex, serbia says...
8:42pm Sat 9 Feb 08
freddy, Brighton says...
8:45pm Sat 9 Feb 08
homer, springfield says...
8:50pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Tia, Brightn says...
8:51pm Sat 9 Feb 08
sad but curious, says...
8:56pm Sat 9 Feb 08
sadly no winners in this situation
sad for matt and his family and for all those children in that car whose lives will never be the same
and the police, just doing their job to keep us safe
and the householder whose wall can be repaired but will be marked by this
... but where does chelsea fit into this sad story?
gaz, whitehawk says...
9:04pm Sat 9 Feb 08
bob, whitehawk says...
9:13pm Sat 9 Feb 08
a boy 4 whitehawk, whitehawk says...
9:13pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Paul hubbard, Alicante province.Spain. says...
9:13pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Michael, bevendean says...
9:17pm Sat 9 Feb 08
anonomous, whitehawk says...
9:20pm Sat 9 Feb 08
anonomous, whitehawk says...
9:27pm Sat 9 Feb 08
anonomous, whitehawk says...
9:28pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Becky, Brighton says...
9:29pm Sat 9 Feb 08
And its a disgrace what people have wrote about the wall u didn't know him and quite frankly you wish u knew somebody and sweet and as caring as Matt Sadler.
R.I.P Matt xxx
Sharnie and Tessa, Whitehawk says...
9:29pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Were Both Guna Miss You Loads And Loads
x x x x x x x x x x
Ben, Whitehawk says...
9:32pm Sat 9 Feb 08
RIP MATTY
sad but curious, says...
9:35pm Sat 9 Feb 08
let's hope the 2nd boy recovers soon...
A friend, Brighton says...
9:36pm Sat 9 Feb 08
I had the priviledge of meeting Matty when he accompanied my granddaughter on a day out to Thorpe Park for her birthday. He was extremely well mannered and polite. He was very shy when he asked if it was alright if he called me "grandma" and was delighted when I said he could.
Matty may have come from Whitehawk, but there are lots of good kids on the estate who have hearts of gold deep down and Matty was one of them. He, like lots of kids, may have had his problem times - haven't we all, but no one deserves to die at 17 years of age.
If you haven't got anything good to say, then say nothing at all. It was a priviledge and a pleasure to have known Matty and my sympathies go to all his family.
Eponymous, Sussex says...
9:38pm Sat 9 Feb 08
alex wrote:One of his friends killed him. Some friend!
human relationships seen to be a very distant concept to most of these scum commenting here, seeing that the internet is their lives. I honestly feel sorry for you, talking all big and smart from behind a screen. I never met Matt, but he seemed to have many friends, which is more than you lot have. A young man has died, RIP.
George, brighton says...
9:43pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Councillor Warren Morgan, East Brighton says...
9:43pm Sat 9 Feb 08
I have posted information from the police on my web pages www. brighton-hove-counci
llors. org.uk and will update there when I know more.
Please have some respect for those involved and for the independent investigation and avoid comments here which are provocative.
anonomous, whitehawk says...
9:49pm Sat 9 Feb 08
thanks
Not Again, Brighton says...
9:53pm Sat 9 Feb 08
It's a sad loss of life, so will these young people now learn a lesson? How many more need to die in needless crashes? Wait until you're old enough - by law - to drive and then do so responsibly. Hopefully his will end the sad loss of young lives and all the heartache their families must be going through.
W .W, brighton says...
10:04pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Stroller, Hove says...
10:10pm Sat 9 Feb 08
They are not thinking about the families all the time. No more than I or anybody else is doing so. I do so for perhaps a minute while reading and writng this, but then I do and think something else, other things. That's life.
The people whose thoughts really are on this all the time are the families themselves, and that must be agonising for them, whatever the circumstances of the fatal crash.
W.W, brighton says...
10:10pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Lin, Hove says...
10:14pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Yes it is very sad that someone died but it is not surprising that they crashed..15 year olds are not meant to drive !!What did they expect ??
TRACIE, BRIGHTON says...
10:24pm Sat 9 Feb 08
A life is so very much more important than a stupid wall...Give the families chance to come to terms with the loss of their son Matty,Have a heart for god sake and allow his family to grieve in peace.
anonomous, whitehawk says...
10:28pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Ash, Somewhere That actually cares says...
10:38pm Sat 9 Feb 08
david cameron-young wrote:this man is right... chelsea DIDNT die. i wish people could just say stuff they actually KNOW instead of making stuff up to get attention.
Peter wrote: What about the Girl Chelsea who also died today in that accident.the police dont report a second death, although i noticed something about it on the previous article. whatever happened it is so sad for all involved, but why were these kids out at that time of night
R.I.P matty Forever in our hearts
Marc, Whitehawk says...
10:42pm Sat 9 Feb 08
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anonomous, whitehawk says...
10:43pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Ash wrote:2 right its about time sum 1 else but me s sticking up the boys in the car no 1 cares about a wall and chelsea didnt die why do these people do it omg
david cameron-young wrote:this man is right... chelsea DIDNT die. i wish people could just say stuff they actually KNOW instead of making stuff up to get attention. R.I.P matty Forever in our heartsPeter wrote: What about the Girl Chelsea who also died today in that accident.the police dont report a second death, although i noticed something about it on the previous article. whatever happened it is so sad for all involved, but why were these kids out at that time of night
mel, hove says...
10:45pm Sat 9 Feb 08
chelle, brighton says...
10:47pm Sat 9 Feb 08
ive been in this sort of situation b4 but my brother did survive which the ambulance/police/ didnt think he was going to..(think b4 you write stupid comments) ....
R.I.P MATTY never knew you but from some comments u seemed a lovely helpful kid .. sleep well .
mediator, brighton says...
10:50pm Sat 9 Feb 08
PLEASE SHOW SOME THOUGHT -IT IS A VERY HARD TIME FOR FAMILY AND FRIENDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
kwebber, whitehawk says...
10:52pm Sat 9 Feb 08
i dont no any of the victems but im not a mum neither, respect to tha victems
East Brighton Blog, East Brighton says...
10:54pm Sat 9 Feb 08
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haz, hove says...
11:04pm Sat 9 Feb 08
ADI Brighton, says...
11:29pm Sat 9 Feb 08
Acheron, Hove says...
11:36pm Sat 9 Feb 08
I hope this doesn't come across as harsh, but in all honesty I really hope that you aren't using the site/forum/whatever you want to call it, as a place for talking and consoling each other.
That sort of thing needs to be done one to one, cyberspace is not the place for that and sorry to say if you think that it is, then you need to have a re-think.
While I'm sure it's not a place for callous comments and stuff like that, please, if you want to grieve/console etc, here is not the place either. It's a human tragedy (irrespective of the wrongs that have clearly occurred) and as such needs to be dealt with on a human level. Anything less reduces us as human beings.
anonomous, whitehawk says...
11:38pm Sat 9 Feb 08
ADI Brighton wrote:so u think if the car doesnt stop then the police should just shoot thm do u adi huh ur a sick **** then arent u i hope u neva have any kids of ur own coz if u do then i feel so sorry for them!!!!!!!!!
I agree with the comments about the council spending money to help the whitehawk community get through this! I mean would any other part of the city get such support? ... Would they f**k! Help those that help themselves. Also maybe it's time that we routinely arm our police officers then maybe 15 year old kids behind the wheel of a potentially very dangerous weapon will think twice about trying to evade the police! At present I feel the police do not command enough respect.
lucy, btn says...
11:48pm Sat 9 Feb 08
paul, brighton says...
11:53pm Sat 9 Feb 08
dan, says...
11:58pm Sat 9 Feb 08
lucy, btn says...
12:08am Sun 10 Feb 08
Beth McCue, WHITEHAWK says...
12:13am Sun 10 Feb 08
angie, whitehawk says...
12:15am Sun 10 Feb 08
SAH, Brighton says...
12:37am Sun 10 Feb 08
Ben Knight, Whitehawk says...
12:41am Sun 10 Feb 08
Beth McCue, WHITEHAWK says...
12:45am Sun 10 Feb 08
R.I.P MATTY X ¢¾ X ¢¾ X ¢¾ X ¢¾ X
Ben Knight, Whitehawk says...
12:59am Sun 10 Feb 08
you all make me sick (ppl who have left horrible comments)
R,I,P MATTY
cn, whitehawk says...
1:16am Sun 10 Feb 08
Distant Frient, Brighton says...
1:29am Sun 10 Feb 08
lucy wrote:Lucy - Does it really matter. They will have enough to deal with without your nasty bitter mind!!!!
anyone gonna enlighten us as to who was driving the car please
Distant Friend, Brighton says...
1:32am Sun 10 Feb 08
cn wrote:Here here. Why can't everyone leave their negative comments behind and realise there's a family who have lost a lovely son probably reading this
Firstly can I just give my heart felt condolences to this childs family and friends. Secondly would like once again thank people for slateing Whitehawk and straight away making the assumption that this child was a hooligan and not looked after by his parents. Do any of the people which have wrote negative, spiteful, evil, messages know this this child his family or even Whitehawk. Yes the area may have it's problems but which area has not. You don't find people on this estate walking around making disgusting comments about a child dying and others being crtically injured. These kids may have made a mistake but I would like to see one person that has not. We all have, especially at that age, and tragically all people involved will pay for this greatly. I would also like to say that people are quick enough to pick up on the councillors comments about sympathy for the family, and the support for the local community but failed to pick up on the part where the councillor says about the strong community spirit which exists to this day unike in many other areas of Brighton. I am proud to live on the estate. God bless all involved
Pastor Tim, DC says...
2:45am Sun 10 Feb 08
A life has been tragically lost which is always possible when somebody breaks the law - let's be realistic about this
Hove Resident, Hove says...
8:29am Sun 10 Feb 08
Allen, shoreham says...
8:44am Sun 10 Feb 08
leave Whitehawk people alone their grief is big enough!!
taz_devil, Whitehawk says...
8:50am Sun 10 Feb 08
Jonty St John wrote:Oh right so whitehawk is so bad so the killing at palmeria sq by albanians and hove street shooting is is whitehawk is it you loser...... RIP matty god will look after you and your family
White hawk such a awful place, perhaps we could contain it with a rather large wall.
david cameron-young, abingdon says...
9:03am Sun 10 Feb 08
Mr Hove, Hove says...
9:18am Sun 10 Feb 08
The Argus 26th Sep 2006
Mr Hove, Hove says...
9:23am Sun 10 Feb 08
Homophobic attacks reported to the police have risen by 42 per cent, with 167 incidents between April and November. Racist attacks were also up by seven per cent to 408 over the same period.
Gay rights campaigners claim the official statistics are proof homophobic violence is on the increase in the city while police say the figures show victims feel more comfortable reporting hate crime.
Mr Hove, Hove says...
9:34am Sun 10 Feb 08
The police could not have got to me any quicker if they had tried, and they did everything that could be expected of them.
The question is, what would have happened if we had caught the thief?
FROM HOVE!
Mr Hove, Hove says...
9:38am Sun 10 Feb 08
The accident happened just opposite The Brunswick pub and is causing traffic chaos on the area.
Police said there were a number of walking wounded.
26th Sept 2007
Mr Hove, Hove says...
9:45am Sun 10 Feb 08
At about 4.50pm the man, believed to be elderly, was hit by a car in Church Road, Hove.
He was taken to the Royal Sussex County Hospital in Brighton.
HOVE AGAIN!
Mr Hove, Hove says...
9:49am Sun 10 Feb 08
In the east Brighton division of Sussex crime fell by 573 incidents between April and November in 2007 compared with the same period the previous year.
There were more than 220 fewer incidents of criminal damage, about 100 fewer violent crimes and more than 80 fewer vehicle crimes.
Lauren, Brighotn. says...
9:57am Sun 10 Feb 08
steve, brighton says...
10:05am Sun 10 Feb 08
A reader, Peacehaven says...
10:15am Sun 10 Feb 08
parent - shoreham by sea, shoreham says...
10:22am Sun 10 Feb 08
Joanna Edge, Brighton says...
10:49am Sun 10 Feb 08
HG-MO, says...
10:57am Sun 10 Feb 08
a muvver, cardiff says...
11:13am Sun 10 Feb 08
Bob, Brighton says...
11:17am Sun 10 Feb 08
Fact is the passenger would be alive today if he made the choice of not getting in the car with an underage driver with no licence or insurance.
I'm glad it was only those in the car involved and not an innocent member of the public going about their business. What if someone had been walking on the pavement as he slewed the car across it - they'd be dead or very seriously injured.
You play with fire then must be prepared to face the consequences.
Bob, Brighton says...
11:19am Sun 10 Feb 08
g s g l c, Brighton says...
11:23am Sun 10 Feb 08
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*****, Whitehawk says...
11:31am Sun 10 Feb 08
alex, whitehawk says...
11:43am Sun 10 Feb 08
martin, brighton says...
11:48am Sun 10 Feb 08
Who pays for all this?
Honest law abiding citizens.
Why not drive a car on some playstation game if thats all the law says you are old enough to do!
Channen x, Whitehawk x says...
12:11pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Number Six, Sompting says...
12:17pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Some idiot buys her fifteen year old son a car which he promptly drives (He doesn't, does he?. Get away! Who would have thought it?) resulting in the tragic death of one young lad and then he promptly tries to run away. What a hero. Strikes me that the wrong one was killed.
Moral to all young people. Choose your friends wisely. They might kill you.
Condolences to Matt's friends and family
Channen x, Whitehawk says...
12:20pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Channen x, Whitehawk says...
12:26pm Sun 10 Feb 08
carlie, whitehawk says...
12:29pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Peter, upper beeding says...
12:36pm Sun 10 Feb 08
It is easy to be wise in hindsight and say such things as "this could have been prevented,Why was all this allowed?and try to blame whoever.
Fences,Gardens and Property all fade into insignificance !
Our thoughts and feelings should be with the families and friends and whatever help is needed to come to terms with this tragedy.
God bless you Matt,your family and your friends
me, says...
12:45pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Channen x, Whitehawk says...
12:50pm Sun 10 Feb 08
mark, brighton says...
1:14pm Sun 10 Feb 08
I just hope that people don't start blaming the police for doing exactly what we, the public, expect them to do and that is to prevent and detect crime. Things like this arent easy for the police officers involved or the ambulance crews that dealt with the patients (I know most of them personally).
The fact that this 15yr old was driving a car at this time of day (immaterial of whether he was sober or drunk) shows us that there is a lack of respect for the values that we should have within our society, values that are being eroded everyday by all or us. There is a lack education for our children and (like it or not) a lack of parental control. This isnt a problem specific to Whitehawk or Moulsecombe but to the whole of our city and the surrounding towns believe me I know.
This is an ideal opportunity for the police and judiciary to send out a clear message to others by ensuring that the driver receives the harshest of punishments, irrespective of his age. It should also be a wake up call for a community to see the damage that has been done to the families of both the victims and driver and for them to take the initiative and responsibility for educating their children to ensure that no more youngsters lose their lives.
lil, whitehawk says...
1:33pm Sun 10 Feb 08
anon, sussex says...
1:44pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Josh wrote:i have tried to discipline my child for disobeying the law and yes they got a clout round the ear, then guess what?? they called the police and i got a caution? where do we go now???
Well said. Deepest sympathy to Matty\\\'s family and friends. He didn\\\'t deserve to lose his life this way. His 15 yr old mate (the driver) is the only one to blame and he will live with this for the rest of his life. He killed his friend because he had no respect for the law, like most kids nowadays. Surely the parents are to blame for this?!. We were scared of getting in trouble with the polic e in our day as you got a belting from your folks when they found out. I expect the police will probably get the blame as usual for just trying to do their job.
lil, whitehawk says...
1:49pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Steve, Brighton says...
1:52pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Jamie, Brighton says...
2:00pm Sun 10 Feb 08
lil wrote:How on earth did the police officer know that they were chasing a car full of kids? I didn't realise that they know have the ability to see through walls and cars. X-Ray vision must have cost the tax payers thousands !
we all know the police have a job to do but chasing a car full of kids is almost definateley going to end in tragedy...kids get scared and panic and put thier foot down on the gas....look what happened in st leonards to them five kids
doug, seaford says...
2:21pm Sun 10 Feb 08
bilal, brighton says...
2:44pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Non Whitehawk Resident, Brighton says...
3:08pm Sun 10 Feb 08
How do you propose the Police deal with matters like this? They must have seen the car driving eratically, decided something must be up and try to pull it over. The driver failed to stop and the Police drove after them. The Driver crashed the car and then ran...
How quick do you think that took? At that time in the morning it was a god send no one else was injured.
I imagine that had this happened during the day the Driver would have been at school and not driving a car he was not old enough to drive.
DON'T blame the Police. They were trying to do their job, which is to uphold the law. If anyone is to blame it is the Driver and the idiot who handed him the keys to the car. HE is the one who broke the law whilst the Police were trying to uphold it.
My thoughts are with the family at this time but I also cannot sit and let the Police get slated for doing their job.
I hope Matty's parents don't blame the Police either.
LIL, WHITEHAWK says...
3:24pm Sun 10 Feb 08
i propose the police deal with situations like this a lot better than they did on satuarday.... i know if the kid was under age then that is wrong...i'm not thick...but i believe there are better ways of dealing with this other than 'dukes of hazzard' type chases...also NON-RESIDENT ...THIS WAS EARLY HOURS OF THE MORNING AND THEY COULD HAVE BLOCKED THE ROADS TO STOP THE KIDS
voice of reason, Brighton says...
3:29pm Sun 10 Feb 08
I wonder what sort of "respect" the driver of this vehicle was showing to his fellow passengers & residents when he knowingly drove a car without a licence, insurance etc?
Respect is something which is earned - this sort of behaviour (and that which goes on every single day in Whitehawk) does not earn you the "respect" you so desperatley crave.
If you want "respect", try getting a job and obeying the law.
Blob, Brighton says...
3:35pm Sun 10 Feb 08
lil wrote:Ok so spike strip the road, the person who was driving is a kid so you think if he had 4 popped tires he would be able to keep controll, also a road block if high speed prusit is in place they cant just block road cause that would be more people dead. I aint from whitehawk but i go to whitehawk mostly all the time and i did know the 5 people in the car. R.I.P
i did\'nt say the police had x-ray bloody vision.any bloody car chase regardless of kids or adults is too bloody americanised for the streets of brighton..they could have used alternative means,i.e;spikes to slow the car or a road block ...instead of a high speed pursuit,they must have had available officers as we never bloody see any on the streets
Whitehawk, Whitehawk says...
3:41pm Sun 10 Feb 08
voice of reason wrote:I work and live in the area. Why in the hell do you think most peole in the area don't? Where do you live voice of reason? Do you w
Its interesting to see all the Whitehawk residents asking for posters here to show "respect". I wonder what sort of "respect" the driver of this vehicle was showing to his fellow passengers & residents when he knowingly drove a car without a licence, insurance etc? Respect is something which is earned - this sort of behaviour (and that which goes on every single day in Whitehawk) does not earn you the "respect" you so desperatley crave. If you want "respect", try getting a job and obeying the law.
LB, Hove says...
3:41pm Sun 10 Feb 08
the driver of the car who tried to flee
good to see he stayed aroudn to make sure his mates were ok...
andy, hove says...
3:45pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Jamie, Brighton says...
3:50pm Sun 10 Feb 08
LIL wrote:Blocked the road with what? bubble wrap, pillows or police cars?
TO non resident, i propose the police deal with situations like this a lot better than they did on satuarday.... i know if the kid was under age then that is wrong...i'm not thick...but i believe there are better ways of dealing with this other than 'dukes of hazzard' type chases...also NON-RESIDENT ...THIS WAS EARLY HOURS OF THE MORNING AND THEY COULD HAVE BLOCKED THE ROADS TO STOP THE KIDS
Oh thats right, if you put cop cars in the way they would have ended up like the wall and more people would have been dead, then you would have commented on this thread by saying 'The police should have tried to pull them over instead of CHIP's type road blocks'.
Think before you type, you might make some sense.
Non Whitehawk Resident, Brighton says...
3:57pm Sun 10 Feb 08
LIL wrote:So what would you have done in their place? They see a car which is being driven eratically, decide to stop it and the driver makes off. This obviously makes them suspicious and they decide to try and stop it. The 15 Year Old Driver must have thought he could take on fully trained Police Officers and killed someone through his own arrogance and stupidity.
TO non resident, i propose the police deal with situations like this a lot better than they did on satuarday.... i know if the kid was under age then that is wrong...i'm not thick...but i believe there are better ways of dealing with this other than 'dukes of hazzard' type chases...also NON-RESIDENT ...THIS WAS EARLY HOURS OF THE MORNING AND THEY COULD HAVE BLOCKED THE ROADS TO STOP THE KIDS
We don't know if there were any other Police cars in the area. It was a Friday night so I would imagine a lot of the Police Officers were in the City Centre dealing with all the drunk idiots.
No one knows how long the Police were following the car for. Until the TRUE facts come out I would suggest that people like you refrain from putting the blame at the feet of the Police. It's all hearsay and what you want to believe.
lil, whitehawk says...
3:57pm Sun 10 Feb 08
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lil, whitehawk says...
4:11pm Sun 10 Feb 08
I do believe you are not getting what i have said.I Do Not Blame The Police.I am just voicing my opinion as we do still have freedom of speech in this country,i just think situations like this can be dealt with differently in regards to kids in cars and its consequences.One kid makes the biggest error of his life and people start degrading his famiy and the area he comes from.Maybe if the laws and its punishment were a better detterent then the kids might think again about thier stupid acts like under-age driving and violent crime.So please non-resident understand what i am saying. There is a very soft approach to kids punishments and when they do get locked up they get almost anything they want inside or they get little punishment.
sue stevens, whitehawk says...
4:24pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Amy, whitehawk says...
4:30pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Secondly, just because it happened on the whitehawk estate we all get slated for it, what would have been said if the crash had happened over in bevendean or moulscoomb??? bet they wouldnt get the grief that we all have to suffer... it was a freek accident the kids were probably scared and yes they should have stopped but if we all live on 'if only . . what if' life wouldnt go anywhere would it
R.I.P matty ... best wishes and get well soon to all others involved
Gerry, Whitehawk says...
4:51pm Sun 10 Feb 08
I must say as a successful businessman I choose to live in whitehawk because of it's community spirit. I could easily afford to live in Dyke Road Avenue or on the marina but choose to live where I do because I have made so many friends in the area over the years. I have never had my house broken into nor have any of my neighbours or friends. None of my neighbors or friends has had their car stolen or has been beaten up in the street, and I have been here for 18 years. I find it a great area to live and will stay here despite the losers on this forum, who probably don't earn more than £500 a week, slagging it off. Unless you've lived here losers, shut up. Because (in the words of Harry Enfield) "I am considerably richer than you" and choose to live here.
voice of reason, brighton says...
5:01pm Sun 10 Feb 08
The point i am making is that there seems to be a class of people who seem to think they have some god-given right to be "respected" - it is often those same people who show little or no respect for anyone except themselves and their families.
Would you not agree that a 15 year old behind the wheel who refuses to stop for police is, perhaps, a little disrespectful of his passengers and any other poor motorist/pedestrian who happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time?
If, as you say, the residents do respect one another and care so much then why they allowing their many children to roam the streets causing mayhem as we have seen here?
Oh, but hang on - its the police's fault he died, right?
Non Whitehawk Resident, Brighton says...
5:10pm Sun 10 Feb 08
I appreciate you are not blaming the Police, but that is how it's reading.
I too have lived in Whitehawk so I do know what it is like. There is a small minority who give the Estate a bad name which is why (I believe) so many people are slating it.
I am merely exercising my rights to leave my opinion.
Some people are already jumping on the band wagon and slating the Police before knowing the full facts. I (like most people on here) am sorry someone died, but cannot sit by and see the critical comments about how the Police should have dealt with it. People are jumping to conclusions about what happened without knowing the full facts. I believe the Police do a fantastic job in and around Whitehawk, yet when something like this happens they get the blame for it.
It's not right and not fair. I believe the Police would not have chased the car had they known there was a 15 year old at the wheel. At that time in the morning how many people could have looked into the car and seen who was driving and how old they were?
Its about time the Government did something more to help young offenders. It's also time parents started taking responsibility for their kids actions. Today's society is far too soft on kids which is why they have become uncontrolable.
The Parents should also take some responsibility for this. I know not every child is an angel, but control over your child is paramount to keeping them out of trouble.
Gerry, Whitehawk says...
5:16pm Sun 10 Feb 08
voice of reason wrote:You make a valid point but it's nothing to do with the fact they come from whitehawk.
@lil The point i am making is that there seems to be a class of people who seem to think they have some god-given right to be "respected" - it is often those same people who show little or no respect for anyone except themselves and their families. Would you not agree that a 15 year old behind the wheel who refuses to stop for police is, perhaps, a little disrespectful of his passengers and any other poor motorist/pedestrian who happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time? If, as you say, the residents do respect one another and care so much then why they allowing their many children to roam the streets causing mayhem as we have seen here? Oh, but hang on - its the police's fault he died, right?
Personally I know people from an area of the so called 'prestige' environment of Hove who see more "mayhem" in one weekend than we do in six months in Whitehawk. Let it be noted that I walk home at 2am on a Sat night about 45 weeks a year from my friends flat at the top of whitehawk to the other end of the estate and have never seen ANY "mayhem" in the 15 years that I've been doing that. Do the math, that's 675 walks through whitehawk at 2am!!
The closest that I have ever come to being mugged was in Lewes of all places (luckily I managed to defend myself)!
wombat, a tree says...
5:19pm Sun 10 Feb 08
PS - do you really earn more than £500 a week. Blimey that's impressive! I wish i was you.
Jade, Whitehawk says...
5:34pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Rita, Hove says...
5:34pm Sun 10 Feb 08
quoteParents take responsibility for your children don,t blame other people when they are out of control
Teacher, School says...
5:39pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Jade wrote:Jade, have a look here:
Wtf Are You Sick **** Talking About. Its A Silly **** Wall What Can Be Fixed But Matt\'s Life Cant Be Fixed Can It. And Dont Go **** Dissing Whitehawk Theres Nothing Wrong With It. I\'ve Lived Theer My Whole Life. Whitehawk\'s A **** Community Where We All Stick Together Stop Complaining About A Stupid **** Wall. And Think Bout Matt Who Died **** Instantly. And Simon That Died Earlier This Morning. Have Some **** Respect You Sad ****. And No1 Deserved To Die. Especially Matt Or Simon. Just **** Pay Yah Respects Instead Of Worrying About A Little Wall. **** Hell !!!
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Gerry, Whitehawk says...
6:05pm Sun 10 Feb 08
wombat wrote:Wombat by name.......
Gerry - making a tenner on an ounce of soap-bar does not make you \"a successful businessman\" - especially if little Kev doesn\'t pay his tic on time. PS - do you really earn more than £500 a week. Blimey that\'s impressive! I wish i was you.
I knew that the only digs at my comments would be personal ones born through jealousy and not really about the subject.
My electrics wholesale business made net profits last year that you could only dream of, through years of hard work to build up the business. So stop making personal comments to someone whos trying to provide a future for their family. If you have something to say on the issue or condolences to be made to the family then write them. Do not resort to shameful personal attacks to the people on the forum. Hang your head in shame.
freddy, Brighton says...
6:07pm Sun 10 Feb 08
The blame lies solely on the driver. I hope he suffers for the rest of his life. What if that car had hit another car full of innocent people? If you live by the sword you deserve to die buy it. Don't blame anyone else.
Bob, Brighton says...
6:37pm Sun 10 Feb 08
sadie, emily, jacob and sue!!...x x, brighton says...
6:51pm Sun 10 Feb 08
R.I.P my darlin!! i love you yeh and remember when you hear im coming up with you crack open the drinks i think ill need some after livin in this place for so long!!!...x x x x x x x love you!!... Sadie ...x x x x
R.I.P Matty!! i will always remeber that smily face of yours... :):) eee Emily ...x x
R.I.P Matty... thanks for all the times you made me laugh and make sure you and matt stay out of deep trouble yee!! Jacob...x x x
be at peace with matt... always in my thoughts... love Sue!!...x x
Max Wall, Walford says...
6:52pm Sun 10 Feb 08
2.will it be rebuilt
Dave, At home says...
6:57pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Also I hope all the offenders are given long jail sentences so that they can reflect what they have done to other families and loved ones.
Mr M. Vince, Brighton says...
6:59pm Sun 10 Feb 08
My colleagues and I suported Matty in overcoming the difficulties he faced, shared his achieivments in education, and watched him as he moved on to take his first tentative steps in to the adult world.
For those that were not fortunate enough to know Matty and his family, he showed care and concern for his parents, put effort in to developing his future prospects, and was extremely well-liked by his school-friends and teachers alike.
I, my colleagues, and his school-friends are shocked and deeply affected by Matty's sudden death.
Our thoughts are with his family but particulalry his Mum and Dad, whome he loved and who loved their son dearly.
Shannon, Whitehawk says...
7:08pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Shannon, Whitehawk says...
7:11pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Off the Fence, Brighton says...
7:21pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Teacher wrote:Teacher, have a look here:
Jade wrote: Wtf Are You Sick **** Talking About. Its A Silly **** Wall What Can Be Fixed But Matt\'s Life Cant Be Fixed Can It. And Dont Go **** Dissing Whitehawk Theres Nothing Wrong With It. I\'ve Lived Theer My Whole Life. Whitehawk\'s A **** Community Where We All Stick Together Stop Complaining About A Stupid **** Wall. And Think Bout Matt Who Died **** Instantly. And Simon That Died Earlier This Morning. Have Some **** Respect You Sad ****. And No1 Deserved To Die. Especially Matt Or Simon. Just **** Pay Yah Respects Instead Of Worrying About A Little Wall. **** Hell !!!Jade, have a look here: tinyurl.com/35vqt6
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sturbator
I doubt a teacher such as your good self will miss the intended suggestion...
Kindly keep in mind the reality of these much discussed events, and crawl back to the nothingness that compiles your sad existence and empty life, and rot under your lonely, rancid rock...
Jade's words are eloquent, meaningful and rather poetic, contemporary in style or otherwise...
Your poor attempt at an intelligent jibe, however, remains rather embarrassing, and I recommend a more thorough reading of what's been said before, before you proffer a more educated contribution to a discussion regarding a very tragic (regardless of who/ what/ why or here) loss of life and the genuine devestation suffered by individuals actually involved... in this case, Jade.
Kindest!
teri, whitehawk says...
7:22pm Sun 10 Feb 08
r.i.p uncle matty !!!!
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Emma, Brighton says...
7:24pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Peter wrote:Hi I just wanted to say Im really sorry for the familys of the people in this acedent.I know Chelsea and she is not dead and I also Know Simon and hes still in a bad way.Im just really shocked at the mo and I feel really bad what happend to Matt.xxx
What about the Girl Chelsea who also died today in that accident.
sam, Hove says...
7:25pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Shannon, Whitehawk says...
7:26pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Start Giving Respect For **** Sack!No1 Really gives a **** about Your Wall, Its The Fact That a Boy has Died! And Some One Was Rushedd Up To London!, Pay Respect!! R.I.P Matty(L) Comon simon You Can Pull Throw xxx
Off the Fence, Brighton says...
7:27pm Sun 10 Feb 08
No wrote:Interesting response...
Shannon wrote: WTF LEAVE WHITEHAWK OUT OFF IT,PAY YOUR RESPECTS AND CHELSIE DIDNT DIE ! ETLEAST PAY YOUR RESPECTS AND STOP WORRYING ABOUT WHITEHAWK !!you thick, illiterate piece of scum. i hope more chavs die like this. maybe get some sense in their thick, thieving heads. The Argus know full well what they are doing with a story like this. Hatred against chavs is at its highest level and when one dies, people laugh. Stop being a chav, people will respect you. Be a chav, people will laugh when you die. Simple as that. Scum. I'll spit on his grave.
Someone is lacking in the underwear department, aren't they!?!
Bless your cotton socks... and very unfulfilled cotton undies!!!
tony, brighton says...
7:30pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Shannon wrote:but who will pay for the wall. its not the householders fault that this little c..nt smasched into it.
This Little Message Goes To The Owners Off The Walls! SHUT UP YOU HEARTLESS PEOPLE ! its A **** Wall Which Can Be Fixed!,But Can Matty\\\'s Life Be Fixed? Er NOO! Start Giving Respect For **** Sack!No1 Really gives a **** about Your Wall, Its The Fact That a Boy has Died! And Some One Was Rushedd Up To London!, Pay Respect!! R.I.P Matty(L) Comon simon You Can Pull Throw xxx
Off the Fence, Brighton says...
7:36pm Sun 10 Feb 08
tony wrote:It's spelt 'smashed', Tony... not 'smasched'.
Shannon wrote: This Little Message Goes To The Owners Off The Walls! SHUT UP YOU HEARTLESS PEOPLE ! its A **** Wall Which Can Be Fixed!,But Can Matty\\\'s Life Be Fixed? Er NOO! Start Giving Respect For **** Sack!No1 Really gives a **** about Your Wall, Its The Fact That a Boy has Died! And Some One Was Rushedd Up To London!, Pay Respect!! R.I.P Matty(L) Comon simon You Can Pull Throw xxxbut who will pay for the wall. its not the householders fault that this little c..nt smasched into it.
But we're all being friendly here, so wouldn't dream of commenting on your lack of capitals or education!
Don't worry... there's a self-help programme for you out there!!
Probably an operation to remove that extra chromosone, too!
littlemiss, sussex says...
7:43pm Sun 10 Feb 08
tony, says...
7:44pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Off the Fence wrote:well thank you for seeing my spelling mistake. as far as education goes, well as a marine engineer i think im more than educated. my point is that it takes an accident like this to teach the young not to do this. im glad it happened, but who will pay for the wall?
tony wrote:It\\\'s spelt \\\'smashed\\\', Tony... not \\\'smasched\\\'. But we\\\'re all being friendly here, so wouldn\\\'t dream of commenting on your lack of capitals or education! Don\\\'t worry... there\\\'s a self-help programme for you out there!! Probably an operation to remove that extra chromosone, too!Shannon wrote: This Little Message Goes To The Owners Off The Walls! SHUT UP YOU HEARTLESS PEOPLE ! its A **** Wall Which Can Be Fixed!,But Can Matty\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s Life Be Fixed? Er NOO! Start Giving Respect For **** Sack!No1 Really gives a **** about Your Wall, Its The Fact That a Boy has Died! And Some One Was Rushedd Up To London!, Pay Respect!! R.I.P Matty(L) Comon simon You Can Pull Throw xxxbut who will pay for the wall. its not the householders fault that this little c..nt smasched into it.
Shannon, whitehawk says...
7:51pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Off the Fence wrote:True True!
tony wrote:It\'s spelt \'smashed\', Tony... not \'smasched\'. But we\'re all being friendly here, so wouldn\'t dream of commenting on your lack of capitals or education! Don\'t worry... there\'s a self-help programme for you out there!! Probably an operation to remove that extra chromosone, too!Shannon wrote: This Little Message Goes To The Owners Off The Walls! SHUT UP YOU HEARTLESS PEOPLE ! its A **** Wall Which Can Be Fixed!,But Can Matty\\\\\\\'s Life Be Fixed? Er NOO! Start Giving Respect For **** Sack!No1 Really gives a **** about Your Wall, Its The Fact That a Boy has Died! And Some One Was Rushedd Up To London!, Pay Respect!! R.I.P Matty(L) Comon simon You Can Pull Throw xxxbut who will pay for the wall. its not the householders fault that this little c..nt smasched into it.
but The Concial How ever You Spell it!
Should Pay For It, If Its a councial house They should AnyWay ..
tony, brighton says...
7:56pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Shannon wrote:the "Concial". strange word. the parents should pay for it, much before the funeral if you ask me.
Off the Fence wrote:True True! but The Concial How ever You Spell it! Should Pay For It, If Its a councial house They should AnyWay ..tony wrote:It\\\'s spelt \\\'smashed\\\', Tony... not \\\'smasched\\\'. But we\\\'re all being friendly here, so wouldn\\\'t dream of commenting on your lack of capitals or education! Don\\\'t worry... there\\\'s a self-help programme for you out there!! Probably an operation to remove that extra chromosone, too!Shannon wrote: This Little Message Goes To The Owners Off The Walls! SHUT UP YOU HEARTLESS PEOPLE ! its A **** Wall Which Can Be Fixed!,But Can Matty\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s Life Be Fixed? Er NOO! Start Giving Respect For **** Sack!No1 Really gives a **** about Your Wall, Its The Fact That a Boy has Died! And Some One Was Rushedd Up To London!, Pay Respect!! R.I.P Matty(L) Comon simon You Can Pull Throw xxxbut who will pay for the wall. its not the householders fault that this little c..nt smasched into it.
Off the Fence, Brighton says...
7:56pm Sun 10 Feb 08
littlemiss wrote:Little Miss....
yet another accident invloving a police car, who gets the blame as per usual..the police who were doing their job!! all because some stupid underaged kids!! they didnt think of anyone esle when they jumped into that car. Not stolen? then how else would a 15 year old get a car? yes sympothy to the family, was far too young to die, but you have also got to think of the officers envolved! they have to live with this too, all because they were doing their job..
The car was NOT stolen. I'm sure when our dear local paper has appeased whichever local Inspectors/ councilors it has needed to or ensured sufficient profit by coverage it will reveal the true facts of the case.
Sensationalism seems to be the dish of the day but please don't be fooled by misguided and profit-driven drool.
Regardless of what has passed the fact remains that the loss.. or complete destruction of young lives and their families is a harsh reality. Maybe those involved could do with a little time to grieve before they are burnt at the stake by people who really have very little insight into the true facts.
Your message was quite fair but entirely inappropriate... please reconsider.
Shannon, Whitehawk says...
8:01pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Off the Fence wrote:True True!
tony wrote:It\\\'s spelt \\\'smashed\\\', Tony... not \\\'smasched\\\'. But we\\\'re all being friendly here, so wouldn\\\'t dream of commenting on your lack of capitals or education! Don\\\'t worry... there\\\'s a self-help programme for you out there!! Probably an operation to remove that extra chromosone, too!Shannon wrote: This Little Message Goes To The Owners Off The Walls! SHUT UP YOU HEARTLESS PEOPLE ! its A **** Wall Which Can Be Fixed!,But Can Matty\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s Life Be Fixed? Er NOO! Start Giving Respect For **** Sack!No1 Really gives a **** about Your Wall, Its The Fact That a Boy has Died! And Some One Was Rushedd Up To London!, Pay Respect!! R.I.P Matty(L) Comon simon You Can Pull Throw xxxbut who will pay for the wall. its not the householders fault that this little c..nt smasched into it.
but The Concial How ever You Spell it!
Should Pay For It, If Its a councial house They should AnyWay ..
charlene, southwick/brighton says...
8:03pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Off the Fence, Brighton says...
8:05pm Sun 10 Feb 08
there are two... one to the left of the 'z' and another to the right of the forward slash or question mark buttons... they make letters BIG!
Works well underwater, too!
shannon, whitehawk says...
8:10pm Sun 10 Feb 08
charlene wrote:I Agree With you:)
hi all i just wanna say to the people who r being right twats i think u should stop and think if that was ur son or friend and sum1 was speaking about them like it wat would you do i think you shud just stop writing on this and let poeple who new him (matty)right nice things about him instead of u lot saying glad he is dead u dnt wish that on n e 1 so grow up and leave shannon alone i think she has enough to deal with without u lot havin a pop at her n e way i didnt no the poeple but (R.I.P)matty ow and emma i hope chelsea pulls thru
And chelsie Is fine shes out already
Emma, Brighton says...
8:11pm Sun 10 Feb 08
kym, hove says...
8:12pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Emma, Brighton says...
8:16pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Add me on msn because you don't need to be hereing all this from people.And also I need to know about Chelsea and others...
sexyjust4daboys@hotm
ail.com xxx
tony, brighton says...
8:19pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Off the Fence wrote:what the hell are you smoking? wish you were in the car too.
tony... there are two... one to the left of the \'z\' and another to the right of the forward slash or question mark buttons... they make letters BIG! Works well underwater, too!
charlene, southwick/brighton says...
8:23pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Fact is the passenger would be alive today if he made the choice of not getting in the car with an underage driver with no licence or insurance.
I'm glad it was only those in the car involved and not an innocent member of the public going about their business. What if someone had been walking on the pavement as he slewed the car across it - they'd be dead or very seriously injured.
You play with fire then must be prepared to face the consequences.
OMFG!!
right if that was ur kids or friends or whateva to u would you be speaking like that u dnt no the people so dnt judge the council should do something for teenages to do but no there are more intrested in other things thats why teenages do silly things in the uk there is nothing to do around there's areas ok so shut ur mouth b4 u start saying **** like this u dnt no n e thing bout them lifes have been losts you dnt reliese what u got untill it has gone (R.I.P)MATTY chelsea is out thank god but it still aint the point so everyone who has sed sumthig bad about them i think u should shut up and say sorry shannon glad everyone is ok x x x x x x
lisa, shoreham says...
8:23pm Sun 10 Feb 08
tony, brighton says...
8:24pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Off the Fence wrote:what the hell are you smoking? wish you were in the car too.
tony... there are two... one to the left of the \\\\\\\'z\\\\\\\' and another to the right of the forward slash or question mark buttons... they make letters BIG! Works well underwater, too!
Sara Mccabe, whitehawk, the top says...
8:24pm Sun 10 Feb 08
charlene, southwick/brighton says...
8:25pm Sun 10 Feb 08
how can u speak like that???? fuking rude
charlene, southwick/brighton says...
8:27pm Sun 10 Feb 08
tony wrote:have u hgot a heart?
Off the Fence wrote:what the hell are you smoking? wish you were in the car too.
tony... there are two... one to the left of the \'z\' and another to the right of the forward slash or question mark buttons... they make letters BIG! Works well underwater, too!
no i dnt think u fuking have self centered ****
micky, lewes says...
8:29pm Sun 10 Feb 08
emma, brighton says...
8:31pm Sun 10 Feb 08
bill, brighton says...
8:33pm Sun 10 Feb 08
BUT A 15 YEAR OLD BOY IS LAYING ON A SLAP TONIGHT NOT IN HIS BEDthink about that and what his mum has got to do now do you think she gives a **** about any thing else so just stop
Off the Fence, Brighton says...
8:35pm Sun 10 Feb 08
tony wrote:I'm sure you are aware, as a marine expert, that naval submarines are one of the few places left that smoking is not prohibited in public places due to their extensive spells submerged?
Off the Fence wrote: tony... there are two... one to the left of the \'z\' and another to the right of the forward slash or question mark buttons... they make letters BIG! Works well underwater, too!what the hell are you smoking? wish you were in the car too.
Well I'm not on a submarine. Neither am I smoking anything.
Getting back to the actual point of this thread I hope you'll desist from commenting further now and allow genuine, poignant entries and dedications to fill the coming space... not the dribbles of an aged Marine Engineer desperately flogging a dead horse in order to justify his naive and childish comments about something he knew absolutely nothing about.
I apologise to anyone else reading this as it has no relevance whatsoever.
freddy, Brighton says...
8:37pm Sun 10 Feb 08
sadie, emily, jacob and sue!!...x x wrote:One of the best what? He was complicit in his death by being in an uninsured car being driven by an unlicensed driver. I know that sounds crass, but folks need to wake up and realise he is dead because his freind killed him. No-one else.
well everyone who knew matty will know he was defo one of the best!! i loved him loads and cant actually believe this **** has happened!! quite good for him tho coz now he can party and do what he wants with my bro without geting in trouble and defo wont get nagged by people(he hated that)!! have fun matty wont you!! dont bug people to much haha!! we were great together we both new that... long time werent it huni!!.....x x x
R.I.P my darlin!! i love you yeh and remember when you hear im coming up with you crack open the drinks i think ill need some after livin in this place for so long!!!...x x x x x x x love you!!... Sadie ...x x x x
R.I.P Matty!! i will always remeber that smily face of yours... :):) eee Emily ...x x
R.I.P Matty... thanks for all the times you made me laugh and make sure you and matt stay out of deep trouble yee!! Jacob...x x x
be at peace with matt... always in my thoughts... love Sue!!...x x
hayley, brighton says...
8:42pm Sun 10 Feb 08
rest in peace matt
thoughts are with his family and friends ****
SAMMY AND DANNI, whitehawk says...
8:46pm Sun 10 Feb 08
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Paul hubbard, Alicante province.Spain. says...
8:50pm Sun 10 Feb 08
How sick do you need to be to say"I'm glad it happened" or "I spit on his grave"???
I'm not going to knock the police,but it's common knowledge that they do love a car chase,and I'm sure their procedure will be looked at.
30+ years ago,I used to "borrow" my parents' car keys,climb out of my bedroom window at 1am and go and pick my mates up.My parents never had the first clue of what I was up to as the car was always back the next morning.
We all do stupid,stupid things when we are young.It's what shapes us into the (hopefully) well balanced and responsible adults we eventually become.We don't expect to die for those mistakes though.
I was born in Whitehawk and lived there for the first 25 years of my life.It won't be long until I hopefully reach the second 25.Lots of the scrapes that i had growing up in Whitehawk have seen me in good stead as I have had to tackle various issues throughout my life.Growing up in Whitehawk gave me character.
I am now a teacher in Spain but so many times my experiences of growing up in Whitehawk have helped me deal with difficult situations.
Theres one young boy who won't be growing up now.Through doing something wrong maybe,but certainly no more wrong than many of us do when we're learning about life.
This boy won't get a chance to look back as I am and realise that what he was doing was stupid,because he's dead.Finished.All over.
Kids will keep on making mistakes,doing dangerous,stupid things all over the world.99% of them will get away with it and live to tell the tale.This boy got unlucky.His family got unlucky and his friends got unlucky.
All you guys in Whitehawk and wherever who might be tempted to get out there to show off,to big it up a little and to take risks.Most of you will get away with it as I did.A few won't though so have a think first.
All of you idiot low lives who have negative posted be sure of one thing.Something like this is certain to happen to you at some point in your lives.It's called Karma.When it does,think back to your posts on here and remember.You deserve it.
Off the Fence, Brighton says...
8:51pm Sun 10 Feb 08
freddy wrote:One of the best PEOPLE, freddy!
sadie, emily, jacob and sue!!...x x wrote: well everyone who knew matty will know he was defo one of the best!! i loved him loads and cant actually believe this **** has happened!! quite good for him tho coz now he can party and do what he wants with my bro without geting in trouble and defo wont get nagged by people(he hated that)!! have fun matty wont you!! dont bug people to much haha!! we were great together we both new that... long time werent it huni!!.....x x x R.I.P my darlin!! i love you yeh and remember when you hear im coming up with you crack open the drinks i think ill need some after livin in this place for so long!!!...x x x x x x x love you!!... Sadie ...x x x x R.I.P Matty!! i will always remeber that smily face of yours... :):) eee Emily ...x x R.I.P Matty... thanks for all the times you made me laugh and make sure you and matt stay out of deep trouble yee!! Jacob...x x x be at peace with matt... always in my thoughts... love Sue!!...x xOne of the best what? He was complicit in his death by being in an uninsured car being driven by an unlicensed driver. I know that sounds crass, but folks need to wake up and realise he is dead because his freind killed him. No-one else.
A person who lived off-line and made an actual difference to people's lives just by being himself... Maybe not your life but many, MANY others...
Be happy that Matty DID make a difference, freddy, whether you knew him or not.
Please don't post further non-wisdoms. It's really not helpful to folks who come here seeking solace or understanding.
kimi, says...
8:55pm Sun 10 Feb 08
lil, whitehawk says...
8:57pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Shannon, Whitehawk says...
8:58pm Sun 10 Feb 08
kimi wrote:Actully The Parenst didnt Buy it Fot Them !
It seems that people have finally had enough of chavs! no longer will people keep on exepting excuses for their poor behaviour. I suppose this will be an excuse for another shrine in whitehawk! As for shannon, you should also show some respect for the innocent victims who\'s properties have been ruined. Somebody should be made responsible for the damage, why should they have to pay? What kind of parent buys a 15yr old kid a car for he\'s birthday...surely they must know the laws about driving age limits. The bottom line is that it is an unfortunate loss of a young life but at the end of the day the driver should have stopped for the police. Usual lack of respect from youngsters around the country.
It Was Nicked! dnt come On Here And Chat **** You Dont Know !!OK
steve, accrington says...
9:04pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Joe, Brighton says...
9:05pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Off the Fence, Brighton says...
9:11pm Sun 10 Feb 08
kimi wrote:Clearly, 'kimi' you suffer from over-exposure to the media; lapping up anything the papers have to say..
It seems that people have finally had enough of chavs! no longer will people keep on exepting excuses for their poor behaviour. I suppose this will be an excuse for another shrine in whitehawk! As for shannon, you should also show some respect for the innocent victims who's properties have been ruined. Somebody should be made responsible for the damage, why should they have to pay? What kind of parent buys a 15yr old kid a car for he's birthday...surely they must know the laws about driving age limits. The bottom line is that it is an unfortunate loss of a young life but at the end of the day the driver should have stopped for the police. Usual lack of respect from youngsters around the country.
While the term 'Chav' may bring to mind a certain image of a particular young male for you... NOTHING written here or in police reports suggests the victims in this case are, in actual fact, 'Chavs'.
To be able to compare damage to property to the life of a human being obviously displays an acute lack of perception of reality in you and I wish you all the best in whichever therapy you seek to deal with it!
rose, out of town says...
9:46pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Chav tastic, Thankfully not Whitehawk says...
10:01pm Sun 10 Feb 08
charlene wrote:The first thing the council could do is make all the low life knuckle dragging retards signing themselves from Whitehawk go back to school, surgically remove their PAYG phones and learn to spell properly rather than going through life thinking it's one big SMS. It seems that the only people NOT getting the blame for this death are the ones who chose to accompany an underage, uninsured and unlicensed driver and the parents who thought it a really good idea to let their underage son have the keys to a car. It's got nothing to do with the police or the council and what is it with state spongers who insist that everytime little Chelsea or Troy gets into trouble or burns a school down it's because 'there's nothing for them to do', actually it's because they are unruly little scrotes with no respect for other people and their property. Why should I pay my respect, respect is earnt and killing your mate by driving like a tw@t and knocking down an innocent wall isn't a very good way of earning it. All in all, he's just a nother chav in a wall.
15 year old driver, Legal driving age 17 years old. All those in the car must have known he was underage so should have had the common sense not to get in with him.
Fact is the passenger would be alive today if he made the choice of not getting in the car with an underage driver with no licence or insurance.
I\'m glad it was only those in the car involved and not an innocent member of the public going about their business. What if someone had been walking on the pavement as he slewed the car across it - they\'d be dead or very seriously injured.
You play with fire then must be prepared to face the consequences.
OMFG!!
right if that was ur kids or friends or whateva to u would you be speaking like that u dnt no the people so dnt judge the council should do something for teenages to do but no there are more intrested in other things thats why teenages do silly things in the uk there is nothing to do around there\'s areas ok so shut ur mouth b4 u start saying **** like this u dnt no n e thing bout them lifes have been losts you dnt reliese what u got untill it has gone (R.I.P)MATTY chelsea is out thank god but it still aint the point so everyone who has sed sumthig bad about them i think u should shut up and say sorry shannon glad everyone is ok x x x x x x
a caring mother, whitehawk says...
10:02pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Simons Mum, Brighton says...
10:11pm Sun 10 Feb 08
charlene, southwick/brighton says...
10:11pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Chav tastic wrote:right for a start why is the wall so important and most kids these days are walking away with good GCSE'S!!
charlene wrote:The first thing the council could do is make all the low life knuckle dragging retards signing themselves from Whitehawk go back to school, surgically remove their PAYG phones and learn to spell properly rather than going through life thinking it\'s one big SMS. It seems that the only people NOT getting the blame for this death are the ones who chose to accompany an underage, uninsured and unlicensed driver and the parents who thought it a really good idea to let their underage son have the keys to a car. It\'s got nothing to do with the police or the council and what is it with state spongers who insist that everytime little Chelsea or Troy gets into trouble or burns a school down it\'s because \'there\'s nothing for them to do\', actually it\'s because they are unruly little scrotes with no respect for other people and their property. Why should I pay my respect, respect is earnt and killing your mate by driving like a tw@t and knocking down an innocent wall isn\'t a very good way of earning it. All in all, he\'s just a nother chav in a wall.
15 year old driver, Legal driving age 17 years old. All those in the car must have known he was underage so should have had the common sense not to get in with him.
Fact is the passenger would be alive today if he made the choice of not getting in the car with an underage driver with no licence or insurance.
I\\\'m glad it was only those in the car involved and not an innocent member of the public going about their business. What if someone had been walking on the pavement as he slewed the car across it - they\\\'d be dead or very seriously injured.
You play with fire then must be prepared to face the consequences.
OMFG!!
right if that was ur kids or friends or whateva to u would you be speaking like that u dnt no the people so dnt judge the council should do something for teenages to do but no there are more intrested in other things thats why teenages do silly things in the uk there is nothing to do around there\\\'s areas ok so shut ur mouth b4 u start saying **** like this u dnt no n e thing bout them lifes have been losts you dnt reliese what u got untill it has gone (R.I.P)MATTY chelsea is out thank god but it still aint the point so everyone who has sed sumthig bad about them i think u should shut up and say sorry shannon glad everyone is ok x x x x x x
And as for the wall that can be replaced matt's life cant yeah he done something silly but has'nt everyone? I just think people should be abit more nicer about it and just leave the **** alone and just because it is another whitehawk boy he aint a bad person ok!!!! white hawk aint a bad place ok so think about what u have just wrote i say something nice or dont say anything at all
ow and by the way i have really good GCSE'S B's so sit on that and dance
caring mother, whitehawk says...
10:13pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Emma, Brighton says...
10:18pm Sun 10 Feb 08
charlene, southwick/brighton says...
10:24pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Beth McCue, whitehawk says...
10:26pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Sam Waller (Simon Older sister ), Brighton, Whitehawk says...
10:27pm Sun 10 Feb 08
me, says...
10:29pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Wally, brighton says...
10:30pm Sun 10 Feb 08
chris, whitehawk says...
10:37pm Sun 10 Feb 08
SY U CAME DO IT M8 BE STRONG
WE ARE ALL THINKIN OV U ****
char, brighton says...
10:37pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Acheron, Hove says...
10:37pm Sun 10 Feb 08
I appreciate what you are saying about not blaming the police etc, but I suspect you're wrong about the whole thing being a 'chase' in the terms you might be thinking. Somewhere towards the top of the comments thread (I realise there are a lot now), there is a comment from someone who was driving the other way just before the accident and they make it very clear that the police were keeping a considerable distance, as they are always told if they think that there is a danger to others or the drivers of the fleeing car.
Shannon x, Whitehawk x says...
10:41pm Sun 10 Feb 08
chris b, WHITEHAWK says...
10:42pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Sam Waller (Simon Older sister ) wrote:SAM HE WILL BE OK
To set the story straight the too girls and the driver are ok and been discharged. My brother is alive as my mum has mentioned above but obviously alive on a life support machine. Simon is also NOT brain damaged but does have a little bleeding in his brain. His ribs are all broken, most of his insides such as his stomach liver and kidneys. His left leg is broken and we think maybe his right ankle is broken to. He has tore ligiments in his neck but his face is perfectly fine, not cut lip or broken nose, just deep grazes on the side of his right head but his hair should grow back which he\'ll be great to know. I think that puts everythink straight but as si is in such a critical condition strictly family only at the hospital, we do appreciate all your concerns but my mum is finding hard enough and we need less people up there as possible. Thanks Sam xXx (please pray for our boy) xXx
HE IS A STORNG LAD
AND I THINK WE ARE ALL PRAYIN FOR HIM
PEOPLE SLAGIN HIM OFF THEY DONT NO HIM HE IS A GD LAD AND I HOPE HE WILL BE FINE
WELL I NO HE WILL
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SAH, Brighton says...
10:43pm Sun 10 Feb 08
chris, WHITEHAWK says...
10:54pm Sun 10 Feb 08
freddy wrote:CAN I JUST SAY THERE MY M8S AND I NO THEY SHOULDNT BE IN A CAR AND THAT BUT THE POLICE COULD OV BACKED OFF LET THE HELICOPTER STAY OVER THEM COS THEY WUD OV HAD TO STOP THEN
I wish the lad was still with us, but it's all the people in the cars fault, including the lad that died. Not the police, not society, but them. And it's about time the powers that be stopped being whimpy and sorted them out before anyone else dies.
IF THEY DONE THAT MY M8 MATT WOULD STILL BE HERE AND SI WOULDNT BE IN HOSP
SO I THINK ITS THE POLICE THAT HAS DONE THIS
sara, btn says...
10:59pm Sun 10 Feb 08
B-52, says...
11:02pm Sun 10 Feb 08
**, whitehawk says...
11:05pm Sun 10 Feb 08
sarah, sussex county says...
11:07pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Nurses at the hospital are spending more time dealing with security issues and hassle from fighting caused by all of this ,that they are spending too much time at the phone and not looking after the patient involved. stop it now, or i am sad to predict that someone else will end up as a critically ill patient. enough blood has been spilled
m, says...
11:21pm Sun 10 Feb 08
Fred Graham, Hove says...
11:21pm Sun 10 Feb 08
I offer my condolences to everyone affected by he tragic event.
aX, whitehawk says...
11:38pm Sun 10 Feb 08
e as matt &hisfamily do. if this happened to ur child,wud all ud be worried about is sum stupid bloody wall.... andas 4u people dissing whitehawk....if ur that bothered,why dont uput out a helping hand to the residents of whitehawk,so many young lives have bn taken from the estate, itsabout time this estate had some disent help.its 2008,they loosematt, 2007 they loose dave stunnel,2006,they loose omaid B& patrick W & 1999 they loose jay.k. the estate deserves help & love. myheart goes out to this young lads family
chris barnett, WHITEHAWK says...
11:40pm Sun 10 Feb 08
ok matty was a lil **** but us kids are like that i bet u older lot was and i must say matt has carmed rite down even if he didnt no people he wud say helloo u ok he was a gd m8 i wish i could turn bk time and his mum and dad must be going few a lot so can people just stop slagin him and whitehawk off
R.I.P MATTY
SIMON STAY STORNG
WE ARE ALL THINKIN OV U AND WISHIN THE BEST
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Steve, portslade says...
11:47pm Sun 10 Feb 08
There are many comments here about the life lost and how the people in his area feel about him.However all the people in the car came from the same area. It does not matter which area. Over 200 postings about the incident all having their say. Most are missing the point WHY was a young person driving the car and failed to stop when a police car was clearly trying to prevent further problems. I would like to know if the same degree of comments would have been placed on this site had it been a 40 year old driver doing the same thing. I feel that the comments being made would be very different, apart from the respect to the young man's family. There would be a great cry saying THE DRIVER MUST BE PUNISHED Send him away for many years. Where are these comments now.The same people saying how good the poor young man was MUST know the driver. I hope that they will give their full support to the police to make sure that the driver feels the full "benefit" of the law.
To all those living in the are YOU MUST, if you want your are to be regarded as an area to live, start working with the police and local community to stop acts like this taking place in the future.
Tim, Brighton says...
11:53pm Sun 10 Feb 08
This said:
- Who on earth gives and/or allows their child to access a car that they cannot legally drive?
- Why would anyone think that the police shouldn't have given chase? It is, after all, their job.
aba, brighton says...
12:00am Mon 11 Feb 08
chris wrote:oi idiot - the police were at a distance and they shouldn't have backed off - no one made them get in the car, no one made him run - no one made him drive like an idiot did they - the police were doing the right thing. stoping people from commiting crime and making the world a safer place for all of us. and so you (and everyone else knows) the ONLY reason simon is a alive is because a police officer, who was also an army medic got him out of the car wheb
freddy wrote: I wish the lad was still with us, but it's all the people in the cars fault, including the lad that died. Not the police, not society, but them. And it's about time the powers that be stopped being whimpy and sorted them out before anyone else dies.CAN I JUST SAY THERE MY M8S AND I NO THEY SHOULDNT BE IN A CAR AND THAT BUT THE POLICE COULD OV BACKED OFF LET THE HELICOPTER STAY OVER THEM COS THEY WUD OV HAD TO STOP THEN IF THEY DONE THAT MY M8 MATT WOULD STILL BE HERE AND SI WOULDNT BE IN HOSP SO I THINK ITS THE POLICE THAT HAS DONE THIS
n he was barely breathing and saved his life! a long time before the ambulance got there - remember that when you wanna start slagging them off.
thevoiceoftruth, Brighton says...
12:41am Mon 11 Feb 08
???????????????, Hove says...
1:24am Mon 11 Feb 08
sarah, sussex county says...
1:27am Mon 11 Feb 08
sarah wrote:CAN ANYONE READ, WE ARE ACTUALLY AFFECTING SOMEONES LIFE, LETS STOP, PLEASE, WHO IS IT HELPING????
this bickering needs to stop or someone else will be killed in a retalliation attack. Nurses at the hospital are spending more time dealing with security issues and hassle from fighting caused by all of this ,that they are spending too much time at the phone and not looking after the patient involved. stop it now, or i am sad to predict that someone else will end up as a critically ill patient. enough blood has been spilled
Sam Waller (Simon Older sister ), Brighton, Whitehawk says...
2:12am Mon 11 Feb 08
matts neice, btn says...
2:27am Mon 11 Feb 08
r.i.p unncle matty !!!
Lord Lucan, South America says...
6:33am Mon 11 Feb 08
matts neice wrote:I tried running this through the babelfish translation site but it gave up, any chance you could retype it in English?
everyone who has been sticking up for matt, thanks ! but a mate e was 2 u all, an uncle e was 2 me!! ill neva frget him, but ur comments dnt help wen ur sayin es just sum chav hu parents dnt care bout im, well his parents doo fukin cre bout im alot nd luv im very much so !! we all fukin do !! i love himm alot!!!!!!! im sorry 4 simon hu if fightin 4 his life, we pray he pulls through so it does make 2 who dies becoz of the crash, and the driver hu was gd friends wit matt has 2 liv wit wat es dun 4 eva... plz dnt paronise matt, u dnt no im , i do , nd i cn say e had an heart of gold... were all heartbroken enuf !
r.i.p unncle matty !!!
homer, springfield says...
7:47am Mon 11 Feb 08
me wrote:i understand the driver has been arrested on his release from hospital. on what charge i dont know, possibly cuasing death by dangerous driving, driving whilst uninsured, driving under age, without a licence. plenty to go at, also failing to stop, speeding. also, if people want to make comments, please learn to spell and use correct grammar. makes it hard for us intelligent people to understand
what\\\'s happened to the boy who caused all this?
tony, brighton says...
8:03am Mon 11 Feb 08
whitehawk- hard-working resident wife,mother,rent-pay
er,poll-tax-payer and law-abiding citizen, whitehawk says...
8:18am Mon 11 Feb 08
threats,DISRESPECT,f
or the dead and the living does make me feel ashamed to be a whitehawk resident this morning.only we can turn things around by being more considerate to people,more respectful,more honest,more trustworthy of the police,more considerate to what our kids learn from us also,and by being responsible for our kids whereabouts.people only comment on what they hear and read of us if you do not like these comments HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER AND LIVE WITHIN THE LAW AND LIVE WITH A LOT MORE CONSIDERATION FOR YOUR FELLOW MAN.
a whitehawk resident, whitehawk says...
8:24am Mon 11 Feb 08
,and many more things which are ILLEAGAL.dont throw stones when you live in glass houses yourselves!!!!! if you ever had the courage to walk around in whitehawk you will see that there are many,many people who are decent,i understand there are a few people who let us down,(DONT SAY YOU DONT HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THAT WHERE YOU LIVE)and we cant help that.dont tar us with the same brush.we as a community will hold our head up high and wont be beaten down by your comments.they will only make us stronger.hope nothing like this will ever happen to your family or friends,(you never no it could happen).then you no doubt will feel guilty for the nasty comments.im all for the good and the bad but not the nasty.rip little fella.hope the other boy is ok.
whitehawk hard-working resident,wife,mother, whitehawk says...
8:34am Mon 11 Feb 08
Jane Somers, brighton says...
8:42am Mon 11 Feb 08
Barry Harvey, Whitehawk Brighton says...
8:48am Mon 11 Feb 08
Lawrie McCue, Brighton says...
9:17am Mon 11 Feb 08
you will always be there in my eyes mate.
R.I.P Matty
whitehawk resident,hard-workin
g,wife,mother, whitehawk says...
9:21am Mon 11 Feb 08
i understand everyone has a right of free speech...but are you really this heartless?the parents and siblings are reading this page...come on less of the cracks...they are'nt really funny and it probably is not really the real you that is feeling this,i understand that the youth of today can be quite unruly,and make us angry with the way things happen around us but please have some respect for others who are grieving....and maybe leave this page and save your jokes for your mates in the pub,thankyou
Family member, undisclosed says...
9:31am Mon 11 Feb 08
He was a lovely soul who will be greatly missed by us all.
BUT PLEASE , could people remember, when entering inappropriate messages, that there is a family grieving and I am sure that if they were in this situation, they would not like to read some of the diatribes that have been posted on here.
No one is without fault in their lives, and we all have our own crosses to bear as well as our own demons to live with.
At least our Matty is free of this now and can be at peace.
I would like to thank people for their kind words, which are appreciated.
I would like to also leave a message for Jade - It is very immature and insensitive of you to leave a message, trying to get at other family members.In this manner. Have some respect and decency, please leave well alone.
Member of matts family, whitehawk says...
9:32am Mon 11 Feb 08
matt was well loved my both family and friend, and he was known as a ledgend. he may have been
careless at times but he had an heart on gold!! matt did not deserve to die! he had his whole life ahead of him.
people are moaning about the wall that got damaged, HELLO ! its a f***ing wall!!!! my uncles life was takin, u cn build a wall but you can bring back his life!
i love you uncle matty !! R.I.P darhlinn xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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erin, brighton and hove says...
9:34am Mon 11 Feb 08
and im am disgusted by the way some people have talked about him
ur acting like animals and sayin that whitehawk is a bad place.
if it is such a bad place i think you should live there
SIMON
is a really nice person
i dont see y u should judge him by where he lives and you dont even now him
thinking of you simon
xxx
Mr.Jones, West Sussex says...
9:46am Mon 11 Feb 08
Amber, Whitehawk says...
9:51am Mon 11 Feb 08
R.I.P Matty
Simon Burgess, says...
12:58pm Mon 11 Feb 08
I'm saddened that so many insensitive remarks could be posted at a time like this. It's time to do the decent thing and give those effected time to come to terms with what has happened.
Simon
Billie, brighton says...
1:06pm Mon 11 Feb 08
Emma, Brighton says...
1:18pm Mon 11 Feb 08
Jane Somers wrote:Hi just wanted to say that Chelsea isn't dead,shes at home now
Chelsea and me, go back five years, and are so close we were like sisters. Can anybody tell me where to send flowers? I miss her so much.
me, here says...
1:31pm Mon 11 Feb 08
s, whitehawk says...
1:40pm Mon 11 Feb 08
Dan, Whitehawk says...
1:43pm Mon 11 Feb 08
Love you mate
R.i.p Matty
P.s leave out the sick comments
emily.w billy.w danielle.b.edwin.d, whitehawk says...
1:46pm Mon 11 Feb 08
Sam Waller (Simon Older sister ), Brighton, Whitehawk says...
2:06pm Mon 11 Feb 08
Sammy xXx xXx
Sophie., brighton (near whitehawk) says...
2:08pm Mon 11 Feb 08
gumbo, whitehawk says...
2:13pm Mon 11 Feb 08
daley, hove says...
2:14pm Mon 11 Feb 08
les, hangleton says...
2:18pm Mon 11 Feb 08
HOLLIE MARTIN, BRIGHTON says...
2:27pm Mon 11 Feb 08
Dexter, Dulwich says...
2:30pm Mon 11 Feb 08
steamer, hove says...
2:31pm Mon 11 Feb 08
sam, brighton says...
2:39pm Mon 11 Feb 08
matts sister wrote:i was a good m8 to him iam sorry
you small minded low lifes we dont need u writing pathetic messages just imagne if it was your kid and **** the wall
sam, says...
2:41pm Mon 11 Feb 08
sam wrote:iam sorry good buy matt i will miss him
matts sister wrote: you small minded low lifes we dont need u writing pathetic messages just imagne if it was your kid and **** the walli was a good m8 to him iam sorry
caring mother,and whitehawk resident., whitehawk says...
2:45pm Mon 11 Feb 08
whitehawk hard-working resident,wife,mother wrote:my comment i wrote as "caring mother" was an angry one, dedicated to all the nasty,evil people who have wrote a sick comment and i will stick by this forever.i am all for freedom of speech,as i said good,bad.BUT NOT NASTY.if my language offended anyone i apologise but i cant stand by and see these people be nasty.they are no better than scum.these kids are only human.they made a mistake which i made as a kid,although i wasnt killed i know how scary it is.give these kids a break.i doubt very much they will do it again.we do need more police presence though.that will be a deterrent.
to whitehawk resident,if your last comment referred to anything i wrote,it was not meant to offend anyone it was to try to make people see that cursing each other makes this a sad world also as it is being done on a tribute site to a young man who died.maybe i live to dream that one day the world can be a better place for all of us?my kids are growing up in whitehawk and i worry everyday for thier future.if everyone was as proud of whitehawk as you and i are then would'nt it be great?sadly we do have bad-eggs in this basket that will almost probably tarnish this beautiful valley.
Miriam Binder, Whitehawk says...
2:53pm Mon 11 Feb 08
I am more incensed though by the misleading headline. It was not the Police chase that killed the boy. It was getting into the car in the first place compounded by a driver who would not stop when told to do so.
JJ, Lewes says...
2:55pm Mon 11 Feb 08
here.
Someone in control of a machine with potential to kill (and that has killed) took a choice to drive it in a certain way in a public space we all use and have to share.
And you expect people otyer people who use taht space not to have a view!
How about I come round yours waving a loaded gun about, i dont expect you would like that but its **** near the same thing
Now many others are also left with the aftermath and to clear up the mess.
KS, Brighton says...
3:04pm Mon 11 Feb 08
here we go again, a bunch of criminals go out get killed and expect sympathy cos they are allegedly little angels....what comes around goes around i feel sorry for the police having to deal with this scum on a day to day basis
here we go again, a bunch of criminals go out get killed and expect sympathy cos they are allegedly little angels....what comes around goes around i feel sorry for the police having to deal with this scum on a day to day basis
Hey Steamer....the children involved are not scum and not only has one child lost his live now 5 other children and their families(including mattys) will have to live with the consequences, guilt and sadness through this tragic accident. Noone should have been in that car, but the facts are that they all made a conscious decision. I am a relative of the driver involved and trust me he isnt scum or a criminal and neither are his friends they are only kids....back off all you idiots who dont know **** about what happened. judging and looking down on them is not the answer.
RIP Matty and all my love and sincere wishes to everyone else involved.
lauren, brighton says...
3:27pm Mon 11 Feb 08
beth, whitehawk says...
3:34pm Mon 11 Feb 08
lauren, whitehawk/bevendean says...
3:35pm Mon 11 Feb 08
whitehawk gal!, whitehawk says...
3:39pm Mon 11 Feb 08
tony wrote:how can u say something like that of course they care!!
15 year old driving wtf was he doing with a car in the first place dont his parents care?????
dats a rly insensative thing to say!!if u havent got nufifn decent to say then dnt say it atall!
Watch out for the ......, wall says...
3:41pm Mon 11 Feb 08
I think that you'll find driving a motor vehicle at 15 years of age on a public highway with no licence or insurance is a criminal act, ergo the driver is a criminal. When I was a kid I wouldn't have dreamed of doing anything like this! Mind you I was brought up in a age where kids had respect for their elders and didn't act like mindless thugs without a brain cell between them.
hu?, whitehawk says...
3:41pm Mon 11 Feb 08
Tia wrote:chelsea didnt die!!
Im Sorry To Her About Matty .. My Heart Is With His Friends & Family .. I Cant Begin To Imagine What They Must Be Going Through .. But There Was Also Another Girl Who Died This Morning So My Heart Goes To Her Family & Friends Aswell ..I Knew Chelsea & Wish That Things Had Turnt Out Better Between Us.. Didnt Know Matty But Wish I Did ... He Seems Like A Lovely Guy xx R.I.P Matty R.I.P Chelsea
ANON, BRIGHTON says...
3:52pm Mon 11 Feb 08
Shannonx, Whitehawk says...
3:53pm Mon 11 Feb 08
Shannon, Whitehawk says...
3:55pm Mon 11 Feb 08
tony wrote:This Little **** !, This Boy Was A Lovely Lad You Are Just A Hearless Little PRI CK ! Think To Your Self!, Who Can Have There Life Back , ? The Wall Can, but Can Matty's Life ? ERR NOo So Fu-Cking Think about that
Shannon wrote: This Little Message Goes To The Owners Off The Walls! SHUT UP YOU HEARTLESS PEOPLE ! its A **** Wall Which Can Be Fixed!,But Can Matty\\\\\\\'s Life Be Fixed? Er NOO! Start Giving Respect For **** Sack!No1 Really gives a **** about Your Wall, Its The Fact That a Boy has Died! And Some One Was Rushedd Up To London!, Pay Respect!! R.I.P Matty(L) Comon simon You Can Pull Throw xxxbut who will pay for the wall. its not the householders fault that this little c..nt smasched into it.
R.i.p Matty x
Rumpole of the Bailey, Old Bailey says...
3:57pm Mon 11 Feb 08
KS wrote:Posted by: KS, Brighton on 3:04pm today "I am a relative of the driver involved and trust me he isnt scum or a criminal"
Posted by: steamer, hove on 2:31pm today here we go again, a bunch of criminals go out get killed and expect sympathy cos they are allegedly little angels....what comes around goes around i feel sorry for the police having to deal with this scum on a day to day basis here we go again, a bunch of criminals go out get killed and expect sympathy cos they are allegedly little angels....what comes around goes around i feel sorry for the police having to deal with this scum on a day to day basis Hey Steamer....the children involved are not scum and not only has one child lost his live now 5 other children and their families(including mattys) will have to live with the consequences, guilt and sadness through this tragic accident. Noone should have been in that car, but the facts are that they all made a conscious decision. I am a relative of the driver involved and trust me he isnt scum or a criminal and neither are his friends they are only kids....back off all you idiots who dont know **** about what happened. judging and looking down on them is not the answer. RIP Matty and all my love and sincere wishes to everyone else involved.
Sorry you are wrong. He was breaking the law, thus he is a criminal.
He was breaking the law because, 1. He was to young to drive. 2. He did not hold a full driving licence for the vehicle. 3. He was driving uninsured. 4. He failed to stop when requested to by the Police patrol.
All of the above are criminal offences, thus he was a criminal.
The law and it's definition are based on facts not emotion.
Numpty, Numpty says...
7:10pm Sat 9 Feb 08