This is one of the most stupid things ever,in the long history of stupid things done by Sussex Police.

How much money and time was spent on this operation? and for what? to arrest a few consenting adults who like to smoke a bit of weed with their cup of coffee?





Call the United Nations and the Army,quickly!
Theres a cat stuck in a tree!!

Well said Bill........what a complete waste of time & dosh.

Helicopter? lol lol

Can we have refund on our council tax please if this is how they are going to spend it!

The ignorant small minded simpleton locals must of enjoyed watching this,after the endless gossip,moaning phonecalls and pestering of the authorities.

Why is it that whenever some old farts hear the words 'cannabis' or 'drugs'
their poor little brains instantly conjure up images of naked orgies,baby eating,and dribbling,cross eyed,axe weilding paedo hippy burglars ??
They just cant help themselves.

According to locals between 40 and 50 officers were at the scene and mobile police units and scientific support units were set up.
A police helicopter also attended!

You just couldnt make this up. I think the words nut and sledgehammer come to mind. How much tax pound did this SAS style operation cost us? Meanwhile we have stabbings and rapes in Brighton. maybe they are not serious enough to warrant police time.

I would barricade the exits from the outside to stop anyone getting out and then fill the place with quick setting concrete.

What a load...steroidal cops out to play with their gadgets and kick some hippy arse! If you want to see 'anti-social behaviour' come to Hanover (Brighton) after midnight when all the drunks are stumbling past my window, knocking mirrors off cars. What an utterly useless exercise. This isn't about drug busting, it's about extending police/government presence into the fabric of society. What a huge waste of money.

I think you have missed the point. Cannabis is still illegal. Well done cops. As for the thousands of pounds wasted on this operation. It will be a few thousand less for the benefits system and a few less in yer pockets for yer Reebok trainers and Stone Island Jumper

What a sad a pathetic waste of public money, pursuing non-violent individuals who at worst are only harming themselves. All to appease the narrow minded bigots who read the Daily Mail and think they should be able to tell other people how to live their lives e.g. Gordon Brown.

"Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Albert Einstein

Government propaganda. I wish we could redo the last 40 years so people would have a different attitude towards drugs. Alcohol is worse than silly marijuana.

@Bigbob

It's clear that you've missed the points that people have made. Cannabis is illegal, but then so is being drunk in a public place. Do you think the police should spend the weekends raiding pubs and arresting anyone who's had more than one drink? I think it would be a bloody stupid waste of time.

Just because a law is there does not mean that it has to or even can be enforced. The police are expected to show common sense and prioritise according to the needs of the community as a whole. Not just spend their time appeasing a bunch of self righteous reactionaries like yourself.

Surely it's time for the police to stop now. They are wasting our money and victimising the cafe. Who's to say they won't invade your homes on a whim that this activity is going on. They need to be sued and start trying to catch the real criminals. Sussex Police you are a disgrace

@bigbob

Your attitude to the spending of public money is moronic, i hope for your sake that you or any of your family never have the misfortune to need medication for an illness only to be told that the nhs won't provide your medication as it is too expensive. Maybe then you'd see the stupidity of your words?

Is this a joke? Raided 6 times and the police say "These things unfortunately take time and I ask them to bear with us as we gain further evidence from these raids." I would of thought it would be easy to gain the evidence, how much do they need? They've either found something or they haven't. It's a pathetic reflection on the police that after 6 raids they still don't have enough evidence.

They carry on to say "It is too early to tell how many people will be arrested or how much drugs have been found during today's raids." I know intelligence isn't at the top of the list when recruiting police officers but surely they can count can't they? Or maybe they're worried some may go missing on the way to the station, either that or they've found nothing.

With the total incompetence of the police force my only suprise is that the country isn't in a much worse situation that it is and there aren't more cannabis cafes as the police have proved in this instance they've no idea how to deal with them. And that's the point not whether cannabis is legal or illegal, it's that the police prove once again that they are totally incompetent at solving and stopping crime.

All those people moaning about the police should get out of their drug induced stupidity and realise the law is the law, and when people try to break the law they get what they deserve. And of course anyone who wants to go and live near this pit is free to do so. But instead they just come on here and slag off the police.

police-0 cafe-6 keep up the good work guys.

@ freddy

So the law is the law is the sum of your arguement? lol I think you're stating the obvious there and anyone who doesn't already understand that probably can't read. You say they get what they deserve, are you saying the police have the right to carry out numerous raids/searches on property people when they never find any evidence? Sounds rather nazi like to me, i thought the law in this country was based on being pressumed innocent until you are proven guilty? The police obviously haven't found anything or the place would be closed down and the owners arrested. Think it through before you go spouting off your inane drivel, if the height of your arguement is "the laws the law" you'd be well advised to stick to giving lectures to school children who still beieve in santa because anyone with an IQ over 15 will understand you're talking nonsense.

Do you muppets really believe that it is only cannabis going on in the so called cafe !! If they are so innocent why all the barricades, steel doors, CCTV etc. What will you all be saying when the truth finally comes out.......

Resident wrote:
Do you muppets really believe that it is only cannabis going on in the so called cafe !! If they are so innocent why all the barricades, steel doors, CCTV etc. What will you all be saying when the truth finally comes out.......

OOH I KNOW!!

There must be all kinds of sordid debauchery and drug taking!(well,in yours and your fellow local curtain twitchers overactive imaginations anyway!)

Maybe the security measures could have something to do with the SIX brutal and dangerous police raids,and your local vigilante's ?? just a thought.

And whats the big truth thats going to come out?? that they used cannabis in the cafe!? the shock and horror of it all!

i live nearbye,no helicopter anywhere

About time these yoghurt knitting hippies got busted,sitting on their dole laden backsides putting the world to rights stoned off their nuts,although if their is a 24 hour shop lease available nearby I MIGHT be interested and charge these morons 8 quid for a Lion Bar and a bag of Quavers at 4 in the mornin'

The Police are doing what they should do - like it or not.

If they dont, other places like this 'cafe' will open up. And a pound to a penny its not only 'soft' drugs on the menu i'll bet. Sadly if the Police did nothing, and then someone was found dead from an overdose, there would be an outcry ie: 'what were the Police doing, they knew about this place, and they did nothing - what do we pay taxes for' etc etc etc. The Police are on a hiding to nothing, and the people running the cafe know all the 'smart moves', legal get outs etc etc etc. Its 'catch22'

Some people wish to believe that smoking Cannabis, weed, puff, skunk or whatever, is a harmless social passtime, when in fact it has been shown time and time again (even in many Argus reports) that many violent attacks have been committed by thugs admitting to using strong cannabis, amongst other things. Cannabis of 30yrs ago bears little resemblence to much of whats available today.

These so called 'soft' drugs are a direct introduction to drugs such as heroin and cocaine. Ask any heroin addict what drug they started on, and 90% will say 'cannabis'.

I agree totally with those citing the dangers of alcohol. But all such arguements in this direction merely show how alcohol should be more controlled. Its no good saying that because alcohol has become so readily accepted and available in todays society, we should let the same thing happen with other dangerous drugs. That is a totally moronic and stupid thing to suggest.

'Maybe the security measures could have something to do with the SIX brutal and dangerous police raids,and your local vigilante's ?? just a thought.'

BOO HOO

'SIX brutal and dangerous police raids'

BOO HOO HOO

Ah bless they think the police are picking on them...dont they say cannabis brings on parania !!

The police raided the cafe again and found nothing. No arrests were made. Everyone in the cafe had there money taken from them by the police. This money was in some circumstances peoples rent and food money. No charges were bought yet Sussex police basically robbed everyone. They also took many items from the cafe that have nothing to do with drugs such as the music collection. They cut plugs off of electric domestic appliances im guessing to be vindictive. Very unprofessional and childish in my opinion. Many local residents came and complained to the police that the only trouble they had with the cafe was police permanently blocking up parking and the road in general and being a nuisance. The police after much door knocking and propoganda have recruited 3 or 4 old age pensioners who live down that road as the complainants. These old people have been told about the "evil drug den" at the end of there road. Naturally they are concerned. The police have created complaints so they can act.
Now remember how your taxes are spent - the night before this raid a 12 YEAR OLD GIRL was raped and beaten on worthing Seafront. Yet the police can afford to send 40-50 officers to an alleged weed cafe. Surely time better spent looking for a violent sexual predator?

i nearly forgot

www.holeinthewallcaf
e.co.uk

Sums up the mental capacity of these numbheads,typing the spam code as location .Doped up to the eyeballs no doubt,but more importantly spending the evening putting new plugs on numerous electrical appliances.The thought does make me smile,a 'Swampy' lookalike eating a Mars Bar trying to focus on replacing a plug on a 1986 microwave.GET A LIFE you lazy weed-head sponger

lumpy wrote:
The police raided the cafe again and found nothing. No arrests were made. Everyone in the cafe had there money taken from them by the police. This money was in some circumstances peoples rent and food money. No charges were bought yet Sussex police basically robbed everyone. They also took many items from the cafe that have nothing to do with drugs such as the music collection. They cut plugs off of electric domestic appliances im guessing to be vindictive. Very unprofessional and childish in my opinion. Many local residents came and complained to the police that the only trouble they had with the cafe was police permanently blocking up parking and the road in general and being a nuisance. The police after much door knocking and propoganda have recruited 3 or 4 old age pensioners who live down that road as the complainants. These old people have been told about the "evil drug den" at the end of there road. Naturally they are concerned. The police have created complaints so they can act. Now remember how your taxes are spent - the night before this raid a 12 YEAR OLD GIRL was raped and beaten on worthing Seafront. Yet the police can afford to send 40-50 officers to an alleged weed cafe. Surely time better spent looking for a violent sexual predator?

butter wouldnt melt would it

and on your day off I suppose you look after children with special needs . . .

no I didnt think you did

**** moron

how do you think these drugs are grown if you think they are grown in someones greenhouse who likes to do it in there spare time you are having a laugh.The stuff is grown in houses by people who are often the victims of people trafficing who are one of the major players of forced prostitution. Also the bit about doing it for therapy this place has no disabled acess and the premises they have had before was even worse when it came to access so dont even think about that. there is no such thing as a victimless crime so grow up the police have to do what they can about places like this lets hope the goverment get there finger out and put it up to a class b.Its a crap drug that ruins you I dont think you will find many brain surgons smoking it will you.

Hey boys and girls,wow these curtain twitching cracker chumps are a laugh arent they?

Concreting in peaceful people who have tried to make their own space,tsk,tsk.

Yes,stop that you dirty lowlifes and join the army!
I mean this war on drugs is winnable just like the war on terrorism isnt it?

So step away from the mind bending skunk you drug warped non citizens,join a church and take a real sacrament(guffaw!)

Vote for more bombs and more CCTV's and yes of course we've got to give up our liberty to protect our freedoms.

Oh and drink more beer and smoke more fags,make a man of you instead of losing your mind to skunk 999 times stronger than that 60's rubbish,its true I read it in the Daily Mail,fine paper and that melanie philips is a bit of totty what?

I think everyone should write to their MP and complain about Sussex Police, at their repeated ignorance and their preparedness to waste our public funds for crime prevention.We should call for heads to roll at Sussex Police HQ for misappropriation of public funds. At the very least we should ask our MP's why they allow our local bobbys to carry offensive weapons in public places and cause criminal damage to other peoples' property. They are no better characteristically than the alcoholic morons that litter our town centres every evening. Go catch real criminals, committing real crimes, creating real victims! That is what you are paid to do. When did this community decide that the management team of the Sussex Police force are the appropriate body to sociologically analyze
our lifestyles and living habits and censor what we can and cannot do with our own bodies!!!!!!They are bullies with big sticks, nothing less, and what do we do with bullies? ignore them....cos they ain't worth listening too...ha ha ha ha

The whole truth wrote:
The Police are doing what they should do - like it or not.

If they dont, other places like this 'cafe' will open up. And a pound to a penny its not only 'soft' drugs on the menu i'll bet. Sadly if the Police did nothing, and then someone was found dead from an overdose, there would be an outcry ie: 'what were the Police doing, they knew about this place, and they did nothing - what do we pay taxes for' etc etc etc. The Police are on a hiding to nothing, and the people running the cafe know all the 'smart moves', legal get outs etc etc etc. Its 'catch22'

Some people wish to believe that smoking Cannabis, weed, puff, skunk or whatever, is a harmless social passtime, when in fact it has been shown time and time again (even in many Argus reports) that many violent attacks have been committed by thugs admitting to using strong cannabis, amongst other things. Cannabis of 30yrs ago bears little resemblence to much of whats available today.

These so called 'soft' drugs are a direct introduction to drugs such as heroin and cocaine. Ask any heroin addict what drug they started on, and 90% will say 'cannabis'.

I agree totally with those citing the dangers of alcohol. But all such arguements in this direction merely show how alcohol should be more controlled. Its no good saying that because alcohol has become so readily accepted and available in todays society, we should let the same thing happen with other dangerous drugs. That is a totally moronic and stupid thing to suggest.

well said, how do you think the kids get money to pay for the cannabis, they steal from any body they can, grandparents included, it turns them into people who dont give a dam who they hurt > All those in favour of the cannabis, always bring up alcohol, and yes thats bad too, but we cant go soft on drugs, because this is a gateway drug and it destroys young lives and families

Ronnie wrote:

lumpy wrote:
The police raided the cafe again and found nothing. No arrests were made. Everyone in the cafe had there money taken from them by the police. This money was in some circumstances peoples rent and food money. No charges were bought yet Sussex police basically robbed everyone. They also took many items from the cafe that have nothing to do with drugs such as the music collection. They cut plugs off of electric domestic appliances im guessing to be vindictive. Very unprofessional and childish in my opinion. Many local residents came and complained to the police that the only trouble they had with the cafe was police permanently blocking up parking and the road in general and being a nuisance. The police after much door knocking and propoganda have recruited 3 or 4 old age pensioners who live down that road as the complainants. These old people have been told about the \"evil drug den\" at the end of there road. Naturally they are concerned. The police have created complaints so they can act. Now remember how your taxes are spent - the night before this raid a 12 YEAR OLD GIRL was raped and beaten on worthing Seafront. Yet the police can afford to send 40-50 officers to an alleged weed cafe. Surely time better spent looking for a violent sexual predator?

butter wouldnt melt would it

and on your day off I suppose you look after children with special needs . . .

no I didnt think you did

**** moron

I dont know why you are choosing to attack me personally. I only wrote some facts about the raid. I worked with young people with behavioural problems for three years. I gave it up due to the increasing red tape and ridiculous health and safety/PC rules that began to spring up. These things made it impossible to work with the children in a constructive and caring way. My work environment was turning into what amounted to a privately owned prison for young people.
I live by a strict moral code. I am helpful and respectful to all i come across unless they are aggressive or rude to me. Because i think the police could be better used fighting violent or anti social crime you seem to think this makes me a criminal?
I dont care for the laws of this country. Some are sensible while others are plain ridiculous. Sex offenders are walking our streets and youths are smashing our towns to pieces. I only wish the police were more effective in combatting crime that the tax payer is actually concerned about.

lumpy wrote:

Ronnie wrote:

lumpy wrote: The police raided the cafe again and found nothing. No arrests were made. Everyone in the cafe had there money taken from them by the police. This money was in some circumstances peoples rent and food money. No charges were bought yet Sussex police basically robbed everyone. They also took many items from the cafe that have nothing to do with drugs such as the music collection. They cut plugs off of electric domestic appliances im guessing to be vindictive. Very unprofessional and childish in my opinion. Many local residents came and complained to the police that the only trouble they had with the cafe was police permanently blocking up parking and the road in general and being a nuisance. The police after much door knocking and propoganda have recruited 3 or 4 old age pensioners who live down that road as the complainants. These old people have been told about the \"evil drug den\" at the end of there road. Naturally they are concerned. The police have created complaints so they can act. Now remember how your taxes are spent - the night before this raid a 12 YEAR OLD GIRL was raped and beaten on worthing Seafront. Yet the police can afford to send 40-50 officers to an alleged weed cafe. Surely time better spent looking for a violent sexual predator?

butter wouldnt melt would it and on your day off I suppose you look after children with special needs . . . no I didnt think you did **** moron

I dont know why you are choosing to attack me personally. I only wrote some facts about the raid. I worked with young people with behavioural problems for three years. I gave it up due to the increasing red tape and ridiculous health and safety/PC rules that began to spring up. These things made it impossible to work with the children in a constructive and caring way. My work environment was turning into what amounted to a privately owned prison for young people. I live by a strict moral code. I am helpful and respectful to all i come across unless they are aggressive or rude to me. Because i think the police could be better used fighting violent or anti social crime you seem to think this makes me a criminal? I dont care for the laws of this country. Some are sensible while others are plain ridiculous. Sex offenders are walking our streets and youths are smashing our towns to pieces. I only wish the police were more effective in combatting crime that the tax payer is actually concerned about.

"I dont know why you are choosing to attack me personally. I only wrote some facts about the raid"

You need to sort your 'source' as your facts are very wrong.

my "source" is me. I was there. Were you?

Dan wrote:
What a sad a pathetic waste of public money, pursuing non-violent individuals who at worst are only harming themselves. All to appease the narrow minded bigots who read the Daily Mail and think they should be able to tell other people how to live their lives e.g. Gordon Brown.

Only harming themselves? What message would be given out if the police ignored the cafe which is blatantly flouting a variety of laws?

The cafe is also supporting the drugs trade which is based upon crime, murder and extortion.

What has reading the Daily Mail got to do with it? I read the Times and/or Guardian and still choose to abide by the laws of the land.

They are a pathetic bunch of individuals with a highly selfish attitude to life.

"This is the sixth time we have raided these premises and we will continue to execute search warrants all the while the owners openly float the law."

Sadly, floating of the law is far too common in coastal towns these days.

It's really depressing to see so many peoples views who obviously don't have the brain power to think for themselves.

What few of you seem to realize is that nothing has been found, why do you believe the police have the right to harrass anybody? Wake up and understand that this harrassment won't stop at cannabis cafe's, before you know it they'll be smashing down your door and searching your house because someone's told them that you took a pen home from work!

And for those of you who say cannabis is a gateway drug, explain this to me. Why in holland has the number of heroin addicts stayed the same for over 20 years while in the uk it's risen dramatically?

Paul wrote:

Dan wrote: What a sad a pathetic waste of public money, pursuing non-violent individuals who at worst are only harming themselves. All to appease the narrow minded bigots who read the Daily Mail and think they should be able to tell other people how to live their lives e.g. Gordon Brown.

Only harming themselves? What message would be given out if the police ignored the cafe which is blatantly flouting a variety of laws? The cafe is also supporting the drugs trade which is based upon crime, murder and extortion. What has reading the Daily Mail got to do with it? I read the Times and/or Guardian and still choose to abide by the laws of the land. They are a pathetic bunch of individuals with a highly selfish attitude to life.

Where is your evidence? The police obviously don't have any so what have you got? Nothing, didn't think so.

As for your idiotic views about them supporting the drug trade which is based on crime and murder, a main point of having a more liberal attitude towards cannabis is to cut out organised crime, allow people to grow for personal use and then the dealers have nobody to sell to. Prohibition creates criminals, think about it!

So WE pay for five raids, (not cheap) and they find NOTHING so they decide that WE must pay for a sixth raid, yet again they find NOTHING. Who is running this mess, field marshall Hague?

The Police claim to have received reports of anti-social behaviour? I live minutes from the cafe in The Paddocks, using Freshbrook Road at all times of the day and night. NOT ONCE have I seen evidence of anti-social behaviour from the cafe. The disruption occurs when the police waste 1000's of pounds on trying to bust this place, blocking up the whole area with coutless vehicles and at other times, loitering about Freshbrook Road doing stop & searches on innocent people. If the Police want to focus on anti-social behaviour, maybe they should have a stronger presense around Lancing station during the evening. where often drink fueled local chavs make the area unpleasant. For the record, I don't use cannabis. If people choose to fill their heads with the muck, that is their choice, not mine.

They should be aloud to sell and smoke a drug that has no victims!

its sad to see so many people who clearly don't understand that they have been miseducated about drugs.

The govermnents advisory board recently stated that cannabis was not considered to be a gateway drug anywhere near as much as tobacco and alchohol. This is propoganda misinformation to scare people.

As for the illegal drugs trade the whole point of this cafe and campaigns to legalise is to take the trade out of the hands of criminals and into responsible peoples hands who will set up legitmate tax paying businesses.

And to suggest that people will be overdosing on all sorts of drugs in there is ridiculous cannabis consumers have no interest in man made addictive drugs and will go to a place like this cafe in order to avoid scummy drug dealers and drugs.

It is sad to see the comments by people who really think thta cannabis consumers are a problem of society.

Open your eyes to the real problems around you.

Just about every member of the cabinet seems to have admited having a toke or a snort. And just look at the state of the country. Thats what happens when you have old druggies running the country. Maybe the police are making sure that a future government are not going to be so messed up in their heads.

The people behind this cafe should be commended - they're fighting for change with this cafe, and at great risk to their freedom. Pretty insane that they're being punished when they're likely doing alot more damage to drug dealers than the police are - taking profits and custom out of their hands.

Don't forget, this is how it started in the Netherlands. And to be quite honest, there's a LOT of policies the UK could do with following their examples of!

It's the same rude naive do gooders that argue the same rant. Everyone breaks the law in some way at sometime. the question you should ask is the law justified, and the cannabis law is not! It's a witch hunt senario. The cafe does not produce anti social behaviour, it does not sell other drugs, in fact it sells less than your average corner shop, let alone supermaket. The Police are wreaking peoples lives and just because it only affects 14% of the population they are aloud to continue. Keep going Lancing cafe, Well Done!

good shout about M P,s winky wonky. How about 40 to 50 officers from Adur turn up at the house of commons and raid that, now that,d be interesting!

What a waste of our council tax. Why should we have to pay for this stupid sas style raid. The police have more important things to do than this. It sounds to me the police have an ongoing grudge against the people running the premises.

I would like to know..
1. How much did this action cost. Must be thousands of pounds.

2. Who authorised it.
3. who was responsible for the budget approval.

I think those responsible should be severely reprimanded.

The police have more important things to do than this.

That's the wierd part about it, they don't.
How would it look if they said crime was down. The crime that is committed is rarely followed up, and the figures that show the attended crime scenes are just like this one, and they don't put this down to a failed raid, it goes down as a successful one that kerbed anti-social behaviour. I was a neighbourhood watch co-ordinator and I all the meeting I went to everyone just complained about the police, I got sick of it as I know how much time they waste on cannabis raids. You will see lots more as cannabis users stand up for their rights to be left alone.

The police are not yet in a position to reveal what they found at this cafe. If the protection described is true (i.e. steel doors, CCTV and tyres around the doors) that is simply not consistent with an innocent "cafe". Seems to me that the balance of probabilities is that there was illegal activity and for the police to turn a blind eye would be an abdication of their responsibilities. The police numbers seem excessive but, to me, that seems the case in all sorts of matters, I guess it is a judgment call in the light of the violence they have experienced in the past.

Resident wrote:
Do you muppets really believe that it is only cannabis going on in the so called cafe !! If they are so innocent why all the barricades, steel doors, CCTV etc. What will you all be saying when the truth finally comes out.......

Ive heard that the entire contents of area 51 are "stashed" in this so called cannabis cafe.
Funny though,those highly trained police officers never seem to find any cannabis? perhaps they turn the CCTV off,stash the drugs and also pinch a few UFO'S in the middle of there raids?

Come on people -its a plant thats been growing for thousands of years that people want -and local residents arent complaining about the place,the police are -this is simple,it's vendetta policing from over zealous police officers.
shame they dont do anything about all the junkies and nutters in brighton....

Not only did they turn off the cctv, they actually stole the hard drive recorder in a bid to hide their pathetic childish behavior but as there is a radio link to an external unit we have a copy of what they are trying to hide + the hard drive they stole is locked with a password so they will not be able to view it. ha,ha. Any way within one hour the unit was replaced with a nice shiny new one of a better specification!!!!!!!
!!!.

David Vernon wrote:

The police have more important things to do than this.

That's the wierd part about it, they don't.
How would it look if they said crime was down. The crime that is committed is rarely followed up, and the figures that show the attended crime scenes are just like this one, and they don't put this down to a failed raid, it goes down as a successful one that kerbed anti-social behaviour. I was a neighbourhood watch co-ordinator and I all the meeting I went to everyone just complained about the police, I got sick of it as I know how much time they waste on cannabis raids. You will see lots more as cannabis users stand up for their rights to be left alone.

I dont even smoke it- but will defend the facts -which are,weed is decriminalised yet treated as a crime?

legalise it- its that simple.

and "gate way drug" - i hate this term - i smoked weed 20 years ago and still dont like it- wheres the gateway drug thing??

absolute rubbsih -legalise it and do something about all the drunks and beggars.

the police dont find anything because of the furnace inside that they burn it in when the police come and do you think the people who run it are strangers to the law wake up muppets and smell the roses

Hmm - we not muppets -we are supporting an almost legal pass time.
your just being abusove -post some comments and criticisms.

Another waste of money another waste of time ive been a cannabis user almost 14 years i have never been in any trouble never taken any other drugs in my life and most of my friends are the same im fed with the money spent on this i understand some residents around the area to be afraid of this "cannabis cafe" but these places are doing somewhat of a service this place takes cannabis away away from the street dealer who 9 times out of 10 will deal in other harder drugs this is why decriminalisation is the only way forward police and "cannabis cafes" together its the only way .

the report does not say if the police knocked on the door first before they smashed down a brickwall, which makes one assumes that the tax payer will have foot the bill of the repair of the wall as again nothing illegal was found
apparently steel door is what every one else uses to get in and out did the police actually try knocking, this episode is just a continuation of the saga that started in central worthing

smoke was seen coming from the chimney, was it "puff"
music was ceased appaently, cheech and chong "up in smoke" maybe "Oh happy daze"

Resident wrote:
Do you muppets really believe that it is only cannabis going on in the so called cafe !! If they are so innocent why all the barricades, steel doors, CCTV etc. What will you all be saying when the truth finally comes out.......

Ahh... its that word again, "Muppets!"
THe reason that all the barricades, steel doors, CCTV etc are there, refleects the past attitude of the government and the police. The law may be the law, but the law my friend... is an **** as well as being out of date. People have been using cannabis since 6000BC , 2727BC was the first recorded Medicinal use. then the Shiva started 1200 - 800BC

source... http://news.bbc.co.u

k/1/hi/programmes/pa

norama/4079668.stm

my point is if people have been using cannabis for all this time, then whats going to stop us feeling the benifits today? If your going to start getting "Healthy " on us... then I have an answer to that too.

freddy wrote:
All those people moaning about the police should get out of their drug induced stupidity and realise the law is the law, and when people try to break the law they get what they deserve. And of course anyone who wants to go and live near this pit is free to do so. But instead they just come on here and slag off the police.

Yes Freddy, the law is the law and it states that innocent people should not be harrassed.

The law also states that evidence is needed to prove a crime and after SIX times none is found!

Why do I hate the police?

the reason the raids continue is because this is an easy target, the police know that to go after serious and/or violent offenders involves hard work with a high probability of failure.One of the main reasons for this (in my opinion)is the fiscal benifit and raised profile (improved promotion prospects)for chief inspector Hobbs,many members of the public are not aware that senior police officers are paid highly lucretive bonuses for meeting or exceeding their arrest and prosecution quotas.Mr Hobbs since takeing charge of Adur has done as much as possable to draw the notice of his superiors and to have them regard him in a favorable light.He (again in my opinion) has been involved in a number of self-promoteing operations of dubious value and questionable integrety. eg the persistant raids on the sword shop in lanceing made with the intent of driveing the propritor out of his lawful trade by constant seazure of his stock.then slanted and questionable but attention-drawing statements are given to the press.Mr Hobbs has in my view no intrest in prioritising crime or the resources to combat it,this perfidious policeman is nothing more than a ruthless self-serving sycophantic lickspittle who has in my opinion no integrety nor honor and whose sole loyalty is to himself than to the public that he perportedly serves.
PS as the public cannot have this fool removed with any degree of ease this cretin will be wasting our money for some time to come

The whole truth wrote:
The Police are doing what they should do - like it or not.

If they dont, other places like this 'cafe' will open up. And a pound to a penny its not only 'soft' drugs on the menu i'll bet. Sadly if the Police did nothing, and then someone was found dead from an overdose, there would be an outcry ie: 'what were the Police doing, they knew about this place, and they did nothing - what do we pay taxes for' etc etc etc. The Police are on a hiding to nothing, and the people running the cafe know all the 'smart moves', legal get outs etc etc etc. Its 'catch22'

Some people wish to believe that smoking Cannabis, weed, puff, skunk or whatever, is a harmless social passtime, when in fact it has been shown time and time again (even in many Argus reports) that many violent attacks have been committed by thugs admitting to using strong cannabis, amongst other things. Cannabis of 30yrs ago bears little resemblence to much of whats available today.

These so called 'soft' drugs are a direct introduction to drugs such as heroin and cocaine. Ask any heroin addict what drug they started on, and 90% will say 'cannabis'.

I agree totally with those citing the dangers of alcohol. But all such arguements in this direction merely show how alcohol should be more controlled. Its no good saying that because alcohol has become so readily accepted and available in todays society, we should let the same thing happen with other dangerous drugs. That is a totally moronic and stupid thing to suggest.

So now we have members of the public who dont know nothing about the cafe assuming there is hard drugs on sale...very clever!This is not only stupid but is detrimental to our efforts to minimise harm caused by illicit drugs and for your info prohibition is NOT the answer.Sorry 'thewholetruth' but really your comments are so stupid its difficult to comprehend.

IF you know anything about drugs you will know 'hard' and 'soft', dont take them for a literal meaning they are only terms.So if what your saying is true then maybe we should shut down all bars and pubs as they have a 'hard' drug (alcohol) on sale and what your saying is soft drugs lead to harder drugs so on your logic all alcohol serving premises should have the licenses revoked!

Cannabis is not a gateway drug,read some real scientific studies/reports and you will see this,look at the ACMD report and dont believe everything tabloid editors throw at you!30years ago the 'lethal' skunk was on sale,sensimillia techniques have been used for hundreds of years so dont be so hypocritical as to suggest that this is a new form of cannabis, its a load of jibberish used by politicians to justify their actions and weak minded people as yourself lap it up(you have a brain so bloody well use it!).Skunk is more powerful yes,that means users adjust their intake just like drinking 80%proof rum!We have two sets of users,the ones that use and the ones that misuse.

Drugs need to be treated as a health matter and not a criminal.Cannabis is dangerous but it is also the most safest recreational drug we have if used wisely.If you agree with more controls on alcohol then you must be so ignorant and narrow minded not to think the same should be done with cannabis.If we continue or make the laws more strict then it will no doubt cause more harm than good,we allow criminals to make billions from the drug trade and people like you support this...wake up and smell the coffee!

The whole truth wrote:
The Police are doing what they should do - like it or not.

If they dont, other places like this 'cafe' will open up. And a pound to a penny its not only 'soft' drugs on the menu i'll bet. Sadly if the Police did nothing, and then someone was found dead from an overdose, there would be an outcry ie: 'what were the Police doing, they knew about this place, and they did nothing - what do we pay taxes for' etc etc etc. The Police are on a hiding to nothing, and the people running the cafe know all the 'smart moves', legal get outs etc etc etc. Its 'catch22'

Some people wish to believe that smoking Cannabis, weed, puff, skunk or whatever, is a harmless social passtime, when in fact it has been shown time and time again (even in many Argus reports) that many violent attacks have been committed by thugs admitting to using strong cannabis, amongst other things. Cannabis of 30yrs ago bears little resemblence to much of whats available today.

These so called 'soft' drugs are a direct introduction to drugs such as heroin and cocaine. Ask any heroin addict what drug they started on, and 90% will say 'cannabis'.

I agree totally with those citing the dangers of alcohol. But all such arguements in this direction merely show how alcohol should be more controlled. Its no good saying that because alcohol has become so readily accepted and available in todays society, we should let the same thing happen with other dangerous drugs. That is a totally moronic and stupid thing to suggest.

So now we have members of the public who dont know nothing about the cafe assuming there is hard drugs on sale...very clever!This is not only stupid but is detrimental to our efforts to minimise harm caused by illicit drugs and for your info prohibition is NOT the answer.Sorry 'thewholetruth' but really your comments are so stupid its difficult to comprehend.

IF you know anything about drugs you will know 'hard' and 'soft', dont take them for a literal meaning they are only terms.So if what your saying is true then maybe we should shut down all bars and pubs as they have a 'hard' drug (alcohol) on sale and what your saying is soft drugs lead to harder drugs so on your logic all alcohol serving premises should have the licenses revoked!

Cannabis is not a gateway drug,read some real scientific studies/reports and you will see this,look at the ACMD report and dont believe everything tabloid editors throw at you!30years ago the 'lethal' skunk was on sale,sensimillia techniques have been used for hundreds of years so dont be so hypocritical as to suggest that this is a new form of cannabis, its a load of jibberish used by politicians to justify their actions and weak minded people as yourself lap it up(you have a brain so bloody well use it!).Skunk is more powerful yes,that means users adjust their intake just like drinking 80%proof rum!We have two sets of users,the ones that use and the ones that misuse.

Drugs need to be treated as a health matter and not a criminal.Cannabis is dangerous but it is also the most safest recreational drug we have if used wisely.If you agree with more controls on alcohol then you must be so ignorant and narrow minded not to think the same should be done with cannabis.If we continue or make the laws more strict then it will no doubt cause more harm than good,we allow criminals to make billions from the drug trade and people like you support this...wake up and smell the coffee!

Drugs need to be treated as a health matter and not a criminal.Cannabis is dangerous but it is also the most safest recreational drug we have if used wisely.If you agree with more controls on alcohol then you must be so ignorant and narrow minded not to think the same should be done with cannabis.If we continue or make the laws more strict then it will no doubt cause more harm than good,we allow criminals to make billions from the drug trade and people like you support this...wake up and smell the coffee!

sorry, I thought that was so well put, it needed to stand alone.

The police are leading a final vendetta - i think they are putting personalities before principles. Bare in mind it was barely 10 years ago that the polioce used to hang around toilets snaring gay men into sex traps to fall foul of the indecencey laws.We now have pride parades celebrating sexuality.
Famous actors were snared yet they fought on.
The salem witch trials,the feminist movement - the anti racism movemnt,the anti council tax uproar have all resulted in way over the top police attitudes - because the police cant be bothered to generally police the streets like robert peel envisiged - this IS a witch hunt - no one is complaining in freshbrook road other than the police.
And wearing SAS style combat fatigues,sprays,blow torches?Pulling down buildings with tractors? pepper sprays? Is this al-qaeda?

No its a koffee shop where the police suspect people smoke a PLANT!

Good luck to the folks at the coffee shop - i'll pop in myself one day - im not scared of intimidation tactics from counter strike type police. Ok lets go.

coffee shops wins.

There was another article published today in the argus. It was a collection of half truths and lies. It stated the police had found a "quantity" of drugs and made one arrest. This was kind of true. A customer in the caf was found to have an outstanding warrant for a public order offence some months previous. He was arrested for this and when searched had a personal ammount (3 or 4 grams) of cannabis on him.
The article then went on to say that members of freshbrook road have been threatened by staff from the caf. Absolutely ridiculous. How on earth would it benefit the caf to have staff threatening locals. The caf is against bullying of any sort. Staff have often offered to help local elderly or less able bodied locals. Another horrid propaganda stunt from Asser and his cronies.

I've said it before and i'll say it again - what a waste of time, police manpower, money etc.

The area itself couldn't be more quiet, this really has gone too far.

how many cannabis smokers are arrested for bad behavior compaired to booze. shouldent the goverment leagalise it then tax it to death like they do everthing else

I Think That The Law Here Is Crazy. We Are Always Hearing Of Violent Attacks Rape ect ect in Shoreham and Worthing. Just Yesterday A Poor Elderley lady And Her Daughter Were Violently Attacked In Broad Daylight By A Thug Wielding A Baseball Bat In Worthing...The Police Need To Put All The Spare Man Power They Seem To Have Into Making Sure That The Streets Are A Safe Place For Us All To Be. To Keep Wasting Time And Money On Raiding This Cafe Is Just Like Throwing It Away..Have We ALL Gone Crazy ????????

If ANYONE who has written above would care to contact me I can give them verifiable evidence about £10,000,000.00 wasted by the Sussex Police. No, this is no joke I am afraid. John Bray

Theres a lot of warped daily mail readers commenting on here with their clueless cannabis comments fuelled by b.s. propaganda printed in their pages. They're not anti-drugs, they're anti-choice.

Alcohol causes more deaths per year that cocaine, crack and heroin combined. How many deaths from cannabis? 0. Lets put that in a timeframe. Ever.

These people who condone alcohol but cannot accept cannabis are hypocrites of the first degree.

"Its OK to drink your drug. We meant those UNTAXED drugs. Those are the ones that are bad for you!"

As well as being a recreational drug the practical properties are seemingly endless. Seeds for oil and food, foiliage for medicine, food and relaxation, stalk for clothing, paper and fuel.

As well as ALL that, hemp can aerate soil to control soil erosion and mudslides, save family farms, create jobs, reduce acid rasin and chemical pollution and reverse the greenhouse effect.

With all the GREEN propaganda, you'd think this nugget of information might interest taxpayers.

"One might ask why tobacco is legal and marjuana is not. A possible answer is suggested by the nature of the crop. Marijuana can be grown almost anywhere with little difficulty. It might not be easily marketable by major corporations. Tobacco is quite another story." - Noam Chomsky

As for calling marijuana a "violence causing drug" is pure b.s. It is impossible for people on pot to get in a fight. Think about it, you go to a footie match or like and someone is being really loud,crass and obnoxious. Are they drinking alcohol or smoking pot?

my comment was not abusive, indecent, unlawful or defamatory, it was the truth.

wtf? this is a newspaper website. isnt the news supposed to be objective and truthful? thats why its THE NEWS?!

"Sadly if the Police did nothing, and then someone was found dead from an overdose, there would be an outcry ie:"

Sounds like you've been reading the tabloids too much. To address your points.

1) you cannot die of a cannabis overdose, it's physically impossible

2) Cannabis does not promote risk taking behaviour, it makes people more cautious and less violent. To say it makes violent is like saying that alcohol doesn't make people violent. Generally cannabis does not make people violent.

3) At best this 'skunk' you called of, which is actually called sinsemilla, is at best 2 to 3x stronger than it used to be, and that's from the home offices own figures. Remember, in the 60s/70s you used to be able to get very good quality VERY STRONG hash. However the majority of hash these days, is weak and contains large amount of used diesel and melted down records, even dogs **** to increase the weight.

Seems you've been sucked into the media hysteria surrounding this drug. It may be a good time to take stock and wonder whether reading the papers like that is good for your health and good for society in general.

"Sadly if the Police did nothing, and then someone was found dead from an overdose, there would be an outcry ie:"

Sounds like you've been reading the tabloids too much. To address your points.

1) you cannot die of a cannabis overdose, it's physically impossible

2) Cannabis does not promote risk taking behaviour, it makes people more cautious and less violent. To say it makes violent is like saying that alcohol doesn't make people violent. Generally cannabis does not make people violent.

3) At best this 'skunk' you called of, which is actually called sinsemilla, is at best 2 to 3x stronger than it used to be, and that's from the home offices own figures. Remember, in the 60s/70s you used to be able to get very good quality VERY STRONG hash. However the majority of hash these days, is weak and contains large amount of used diesel and melted down records, even dogs **** to increase the weight.

Seems you've been sucked into the media hysteria surrounding this drug. It may be a good time to take stock and wonder whether reading the papers like that is good for your health and good for society in general.

"Sadly if the Police did nothing, and then someone was found dead from an overdose, there would be an outcry ie:"

Sounds like you've been reading the tabloids too much. To address your points.

1) you cannot die of a cannabis overdose, it's physically impossible

2) Cannabis does not promote risk taking behaviour, it makes people more cautious and less violent. To say it makes violent is like saying that alcohol doesn't make people violent. Generally cannabis does not make people violent.

3) At best this 'skunk' you called of, which is actually called sinsemilla, is at best 2 to 3x stronger than it used to be, and that's from the home offices own figures. Remember, in the 60s/70s you used to be able to get very good quality VERY STRONG hash. However the majority of hash these days, is weak and contains large amount of used diesel and melted down records, even dogs **** to increase the weight.

Seems you've been sucked into the media hysteria surrounding this drug. It may be a good time to take stock and wonder whether reading the papers like that is good for your health and good for society in general.

I really am happy to see this kind of responces from people on this page.

THESE PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING THE TRUTH AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT IT FOR ENDLESS REASONS BUT MAINLY WHAT IT CAN DO FOR FUEL ISSUES AND HELPING OUT THE ENVIROMENT IF IT WAS PLANTED LEADING TO ANTI GLOBAL WARMING EFFECTS AND A MAJOR STEP FOR THE WORLD + THE GOVERMENT HAVE A LEGITAMATE REASON FOR LEGALISATION/DECRIMI
NALISATION BECAUSE IT CAN LITERAL SAVE MILLIONS ON FUEL TAXES, LOWER FUEL TAX AND STOP GLOBAL WARMING AS WELL AS MOTIVATING USERS TO GET JOBS AND CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY BECAUSE THEY ARE MOTIVATED AND NOT DEPRESSED AND ALSO NEED MONEY TO PURCHASE A THEIR MARIJUANA FROM A DEALER WHICH IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE AND LEADS TO MAJOR ISSUES LIKE ORGANISED CRIME, THIS IS NOT REQUIRED AND IT MARIJUANA DEALERS OFTEN SELL OTHER DRUGS WHICH GIVES ACCESS TO PEOPLE WHO ENDUP WITH MUCH MORE SERIOUS ISSUES OR EVEN DEATH FROM SOME OF THE HIGHER CLASSED DRUGS.

the reason i used capitol letters is because someone needs to shout for these people that contributing to society as much as anyone else without going into crimes or going mad from the evil skunk weed.

Most of the cannabis is contaminated by the way and that are 90% certain going to kill someone either soon or within a matter of a few years at longest, you will be found to have overlooked this issue and not tackled it on top of all these other issues.

i gaurantee stoners everyone would go mental for the first time in their life and be marching down to number 10. Trust me on that, theres alot of us and a fair few who have as strong opinions on it.

Stop wasted money, save lives and the enviroment and combat depression and lowly motivated people with medicinal marijuana reccomended which would be a good thing, suicide would drop threefold or more.

People would not be angry at the goverment for telling the truth about cannabis despite it showing false information, they already know the truth do the vast amount of people and if they do not believe it a booklet showing evidence in the form of books or the internet or foreign countries views that do not criminalise it.

This needs to be done and would lead to one of the biggest successes of the goverment ever instead of always been seen for bad news.

I could go on for hours with hundreds of other issues also but im not going to.

DO SOMETHING NOW BECAUSE YOU FOOL THE PEOPLE BUT THE YOUTH ARE ON THE RISE AND FOLLOWING ARE ALOT OF MIDDLE AGES PEOPLE MANY OF THEM OF COURSE BEING AROUND IN THE 60/S AND SO ON WHEN MARIJUANA SMOKING WAS FAR MORE COMMON THAN NOT SMOKING IT AND LIKELY FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT IT.
THERE WILL BE THE OLD ELDERLY PEOPLE SOOTHING THEIR PAINS WITH MARIJUANA BEING USED AS A MEDICINE.

THINK ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD IN VOTE OF FAVOUR FOR LEGALISATION.

GUARANTEED 100% FROM ANYONE WHOS EVER SMOKED IT, PROVE IT SHOULD BE LEGALISED THIS WAY AS THIS WILL SHOW IF PEOPLE THINK OF IT REALLY, IT CAN BE TAXED AND SOLD AND EVERYONE WILL START TO USE IT IN TIME.

Just listen and do something someone from the Goverment.

Lancing is plagued by drunken youths who are busy vandalising property and each other, The real problem according to Tim Loughton are cannabis smokers!! He went so far as to raise this opinion in the house of commons (his 5 minutes of fame) and was told he would be supported fully in his anti weed crusade. So far nothing has come of this but it is with interest I note that cannabis has now been changed to a class B drug despite doctors, judges, police chiefs and the drugs advisory board all being against the decision.

I would just like to say to all the narrow minded individuals that smoking cannabis doesn't make you lounge around the house all day and claim benefits. I myself (and quite a lot of people i know) like to have a smoke now and again. I am a successful professional and earn 75k a year. I drive a car worth 30k to work every day - I pay a **** load of taxes every month to keep the twats in sussex police in jobs. Yet i am a criminal. Where is the logic in that?

Before I read the above self quote.
I too was about to mension that I work very hard and have no need to claim benefits. anyway from what I've heard uk benefits dont go that far these days. what is it now about £50 a week..thats enough for a coffee. So where dose the cannabis come into it.
P.S.
I drive a £175,000 car everyday
and smoke weed. (not from any cafe in Lancing. As the police found nothing. It's a not a cannabis cafe)
Think about NUMB SKULLS.
This is pure Police state tacktacs
We'd all be better off had Hitlier won the war