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King Alfred dream threatened


The King Alfred development was last night hanging by a thread after its financial backer walked away.

Dutch Bank ING said the volatility of the money and property markets had forced it to pull out of what would have been Frank Gehry’s first major development in England.

Ted Kemble, Brighton and Hove City Council’s cabinet member for major projects, said he was very disappointed at the bank’s decision, which was revealed exclusively on The Argus website.

Josh Arghiros, the managing director of developer Karis, said he remained committed to the Hove seafront scheme and was in negotiations with two potential financiers, including a sovereign wealth fund.

He said: “We were obviously disappointed but we understand why ING has decided to pull out with the housing market as it is.

“We are now talking to other investors and we are having to look at how to make the scheme viable. They have an opportunity to invest in a scheme where most of the hard work is already done and £13 million has already been spent.

“We want to have Frank Gehry on board to amend the scheme and I think this could give us the opportunity to get the best of this.

“We now need to sit down with the council and discuss viability.

“We have lost many little battles along the way and we will not give up without a fight.”

Karis has until November to firm up alternative investors before the development agreement between the council and Karis Holdings, the company set up jointly by ING and Karis, ends.

ING Real Estate confirmed last night it had withdrawn its funding from Karis Holdings. Mr Arghiros said he would be buying ING’s share of the firm.

Guy Parker, the country manager of ING Real Estate for Development UK, said: “The volatility of the money markets, along with the escalating material and construction costs, and the downturn and uncertainty in the residential market, have had a major negative impact on viability of the scheme.

“It is with regret that we have decided to withdraw.”

Coun Kemble said: “At present Brighton and Hove City Council has a legal agreement, which includes ING, to deliver this scheme. That stands until November.

Karis is due to come back with an update on progress towards delivering it, which our cabinet will consider in September.

“In principle we still support getting excellent sports facilities on the site, which could also provide much-needed housing.

Because funding must come from private partners, the credit crunch could well cause a hiccup with schemes like the Brighton Centre and King Alfred. But that doesn’t change the long-term ambition to see the city’s most important schemes built.”

The King Alfred scheme, which was given planning permission in March last year, comprises 751 homes in 11 buildings, including two towers up to 98 metres high.

An £80 million sports centre, small shops, a police office, a GP surgery, cafes, restaurants and public spaces are part of the plans.


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Glenda, Hove says...
8:26pm Wed 30 Jul 08

My comment from yesterday was removed so three cheers for free speech.
Can we justify keeping a 'regeneration' department at council tax payers expense.
The recession is here, will get worse, its time to make cut backs. What is the point of a regeneration department that is unable to regenerate but offers help to developers who cannot perform? How much is the cost of this department that cannot perform in the current global financial situation?
If this post is removed do we live in communist Russia?

Glenda, Hove says...
8:39pm Wed 30 Jul 08

I was thinking how strange it is that cycling on Hove seafront was viewed so unfavourably by Hove residents whilst the King Alfred overdevelopment was viewed as an urgent need for our small city.
This lead me to think of the signs on the prom around the KA reading: NO CYCLING.
We can now change this to
NO ****ING.

localread, Hove says...
12:10am Thu 31 Jul 08

Upon reading what Adam Trimingham wrote in the comment section of Wednesdays Argus I felt compelled to reply with my own take on what he called "small-minded people".

These people were in all probability behind the idea of rebuilding the King Alfred Leisure centre so that everybody could enjoy the new facilities and surroundings but when they realised the apartments were part of the deal they rallied against the idea as did some city councillors.
Many local people loved going there years ago when the facilities were good, all they asked was for the place to be restored and improved upon so that new generations could have the same pleasure they once had at this location.
Again, another idea to regenerate facilities in Brighton & Hove takes forever to get approval only to fail when it gets too complex to manage and/or finances get squeezed.

One day we may get another King Alfred Leisure Centre....One day we may get an Ice Rink at Black Rock....One day we may get the West Pier fixed....One day we may get the i360 built....ONE DAY.

The "small minded" people of Brighton & Hove are not holding their breath.

ABC1, Brighton says...
7:25am Thu 31 Jul 08

I'm not sure what the "small minded" people of Brighton and Hove have to do with planning matters, as their views don't seem to count for much in the wider scheme of things. And as the stadium fiasco shows, the Govt. are quite happy to ignore their own senior inspectors if discretion allows.

The KA centre has full planning permission. There is nothing to prevent it being built, today, except the readiness of the applicants to do so.

It seems to me massively important that people with no power or clout in society are protected from others. (And that is the vast majority). If you think about it, all laws are created to protect the weak from being taken advantage of by the strong, or to ensure a fair playing field for all. It is right and proper that residents have a reasonable chance of protecting themselves from inappropriate development. And it is right and proper that people have the opportunity to delay building developments whilst proper scrutiny is being applied. Even then, people may find themselves suffering at the hands of developers, so who can blame them for fighting as hard as they can?


King from Hove, Hove says...
7:56am Thu 31 Jul 08

The majority of Hove residents never wanted this development contrary to what is being reported.The previous Council worded the questionaires in such a way that you had 3 options.Not one option gave you the opportunity to let you say that you didnt want it to go ahead.It was conveniently spun.The KA was always controversial.The answer is now to make it into what should have been initially a state of the art leasure centre with maybe cinemas/bowling alley etc ..

ABC1, Brighton says...
8:20am Thu 31 Jul 08

Yes, I can understand this. Like a referendum where there is a yes or no question, but in reality there is only one option available. Sound familiar?

Lindy, Hove says...
2:18pm Thu 31 Jul 08

Glenda wrote:
I was thinking how strange it is that cycling on Hove seafront was viewed so unfavourably by Hove residents whilst the King Alfred overdevelopment was viewed as an urgent need for our small city.This lead me to think of the signs on the prom around the KA reading: NO CYCLING.We can now change this to NO ****ING.
I can assure you Glenda, that it has never been the residents of Hove who have wanted this dire overdevelopment - most of us are totally opposed to it. Most of the support has been noticeably from people who wouldn't have to live with it!

NoWay, Brighton says...
3:44pm Thu 31 Jul 08

Firstly, gotta love that picture they've used. What, did a bunch of day care adults make it?

Secondly, I don't know anyone who actually wants this development. So just stop it, and make the actual centre nice.

Glenda, Hove says...
6:25pm Thu 31 Jul 08

Lindy, I agree with you. My tautology got in a muddle. I worked leafleting for Save Hove and I am well aware of the local opposition to the overdevelopment.
I feel that most support came from KARIS (Town Hall rent-a mob), Brighton trendies loving Gehry, (where are they now he's gone) and our regeneration dept at the Council and the Green Party (Keiths deciding vote a couple of years ago), Labour Party ( Les Hamiltons Chair of Planning Vote) and the Tories getting in saying they would stop it and then doing a U-turn. I don't have anything on the Libs but I am sure they are the same.
As to my NO ****ING it needs more work but I am to busy celebrating to work on that.

william of orange, Brighton says...
7:36pm Thu 31 Jul 08

"King Alfred dream threatened" - good - looks more like a nightmare to me!

One down...Falmer next!

Mr Muffin, Brighton says...
10:47pm Thu 31 Jul 08

william of orange wrote:
"King Alfred dream threatened" - good - looks more like a nightmare to me!One down...Falmer next!
Falmer next? Why? It's not really in the same league as the King Alfred developement - it's been well designed, it won't be towering over people's homes and it is needed for our 'city'

Brighton and Hove is pretty much on it's own in being a city without a major stadium for it's football team (which will also be used for major concerts as well as all the other facilities)

That's the trouble with this place. We don't do the basics. The councillors are making a big thing out of B&H losing the leisure centre facilities now it looks like the KA plans are going down the Swanee but we all know they were looking at the 700 apartments really instead and the bragging they could have done about top designers, hollywood actors etc etc.

It's all just grand flash gestures to paper over the cracks and we keep being told what a forward thinking city we are. Trouble is, the heritage is being ignored to bring on the next vanity project.

And will everyone stop calling us small minded cos we're not saying Yes Yes Yes to all these plans!

deanahove, hove says...
11:16am Fri 1 Aug 08

Maybe if they cut back on the sports centre bit and built more tower blocks then Ing would come back onboard

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