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Sussex MP branded 'flat earther' following climate change vote

11:40am Friday 31st October 2008

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A Sussex politician has been attacked as a “flat earther” after he was one of just three MPs to vote against landmark legislation to tackle global warming.

Andrew Tyrie, Tory MP for Chichester, joined two of his party colleagues in opposing the Climate Change Bill as it passed its final Commons stage by an overwhelming 463 votes to 3.

Mr Tyrie has questioned the science behind concerns that greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide are increasing the earth’s temperature, threatening devastating floods and droughts.

His scepticism has left him isolated among Sussex politicians, with 12 of the county’s MPs voting for the Bill.

Three MPs – Peter Bottomley (Worthing West), Francis Maude (Horsham) and Nicholas Soames (Mid Sussex) – did not vote.

The Bill, which will go to the Lords for further debate next month, would impose ambitious targets on the Government to cut emissions by 80% from 1990 levels by 2050, including emissions from aviation and shipping.

Greg Barker, Tory MP for Bexhill and Battle, led his party’s support for the Bill.

Brighton Kemptown Labour MP Des Turner welcomed the vote result and dismissed Mr Tyrie’s opposition as marginal.

He said: “He’s one of the last of the flat earthers. He doesn’t believe in man-made climate change – and he’s wrong, in the same way people who believed the earth was flat were wrong.”

Dr Turner said the vote was “one of the most important” in his 11 years as an MP.

He added: “We are literally talking about the future of the human race.”

Mr Tyrie was unavailable for comment.


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S.T. Rewth, Brighton says...
12:48pm Fri 31 Oct 08

“Flat earther”

Not a sheeo is more apt.
The Bill is flawed and not likely to make any differnce to world events.

psychoderek, Southwick says...
1:12pm Fri 31 Oct 08

Mr Tyrie is absolutely right to vote against the bill and good luck to him for standing against the eco bandwagon jumpers.
I would like to suggest to Mr Turner, his cronies and the rest of the eco bandwagon that they look up the opinions of David Whitehouse, a scientist and former BBC correspondent who I met once at one of his lectures. His views are as a result of intense study of scientific data and sun activity. His risked his position at the BBC to go against their programmed views on this subject. Like most people I am no scientist so rely on what I read or hear and respond to whatever convinces me most. He does his job as a scientist and is not influenced by political spin.
Read what he says and if you still disagree with him at least you would have learnt that there are well presented arguments against opinions that we are supposed to go along with because its fashionable to do so. Dr Turners trivial comments are, unfortunately, what we expect from our politicians these days.



RAS Putin, Brighton says...
1:24pm Fri 31 Oct 08

Amazing how no dissent is tolerated AT ALL on the subject of AGW. Frightening.

Scorpion, Newhaven says...
1:59pm Fri 31 Oct 08

I rather hope that the flat-earthers are right and there is no global warming. However, it would seem to be getting warmer from whatever cause.

In the meantime, perhaps if we got a bit more efficient with our energy we could actually save some money. It is a truism that a large proportion of the worlds oil resources are in politically unstable parts of the world. If for no other reason than having all your eggs in one basket is a bad idea, we should be acting differently.

If the pessimists are right then at least we'll have acted ... even if its not in good time to do anything about it.

King from Hove, Hove says...
4:04pm Fri 31 Oct 08

Con of the Century.We are being dictated to by a bunch of eco warriors who havent anything better to do.Global warming is not caused by us.40 years ago Scientists said the same thing only warning us of a new ICE age.Of course Labour politicians agree but only because of tax revenues

ianeiloart, Lewes says...
4:47pm Fri 31 Oct 08

David Whitehouse may do his job as a scientist, but he doesn't seem to be right on global warming. See http://snipurl.com/4
vn03 for a recent analysis of his mistaken claim that global warming has stopped, for example.

On sunspot activity, read what the Royal Society has to say about that at http://snipurl.com/4
vn9t ; yes it does affect the earth's temperature, but -in the long run- only to slow or to accelerate man made climate change.

Biggsy, says...
6:48pm Fri 31 Oct 08

The 'flat earth' was consensus science, so I guess the earth is flat, right? So what have we got at the moment - no fingerprint of enhanced greenhouse warming, cooling since 2002, CO2 emissions running well ahead of IPCC projections, a lethargic solar cycle 24, solar factors with an IPCC understanding of 'low' or 'very low,' natural variability not exceeded, and so on. If it wasn't for all the vested interests wrapped up in AGW, the hypothesis would have been binned by now. The greenhouse effect has been thoroughly tested over the past 4.5 billion years, with CO2 concentrations 20 times as high as present - CO2 can't be shown to drive warming or cooling, nor did runaway warming or the end of the world occur, or we wouldn't be here now!

psychoderek, Southwick says...
7:29pm Fri 31 Oct 08

ianeiloart wrote:
David Whitehouse may do his job as a scientist, but he doesn't seem to be right on global warming. See http://snipurl.com/4 vn03 for a recent analysis of his mistaken claim that global warming has stopped, for example. On sunspot activity, read what the Royal Society has to say about that at http://snipurl.com/4 vn9t ; yes it does affect the earth's temperature, but -in the long run- only to slow or to accelerate man made climate change.
Tried this web-site all I get is some bird

jack reagan, Patcham toon says...
1:04am Sat 1 Nov 08

I think New Labour MP's should worry more about Flat economy rather than Flat earth.

Biggsy, says...
5:20pm Sat 1 Nov 08

Globally, there is a cooling trend since 2002, so global warming has stopped, for now, and has been replaced by global cooling. The politicised Royal Society can say what they like - all 4 data sets show we have global cooling.

Anyway, there are 646 votes in parliament, 463 to 3 is well short of 646.

Bring Back Southern Television Brighthelmstone, Brighton says...
2:46pm Sun 2 Nov 08

I always thought that a "flat earther" was someone with a Linn / Naim based hi-fi system.

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