Slow news day? This happened like 4 days ago............

NoWaySeriously wrote:
Slow news day? This happened like 4 days ago............

It's taken The Argus that long to find a copy on the Internet.

Conor wrote:

NoWaySeriously wrote: Slow news day? This happened like 4 days ago............

It's taken The Argus that long to find a copy on the Internet.

lol, took me about 2 minutes to find it on the net at rapidshare, it's in loads of places it seems! lol

here it is:
http://rapidshare.co
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or go to http://wikileaks.org
/leak/bnp-membership
-list.txt

Well I think this is a storm in a teacup, and despite what the media say, I think the BNP have some very respectable viewpoints today

Arther Daley wrote:
Well I think this is a storm in a teacup, and despite what the media say, I think the BNP have some very respectable viewpoints today

hmmm, I don't, they are a racist and homophobic bully boy organisation in my opinion, and that of every other free thinking person. As proved by recent exposes of their leader Nick Griffin. Totally shocking, I have many non-English friends, and I'm glad that I do, England for the English, what rubbish, England is a land of immigrants from other parts of Europe and thank goodness for it.

Down with the BNP.

harwood wrote:

Arther Daley wrote: Well I think this is a storm in a teacup, and despite what the media say, I think the BNP have some very respectable viewpoints today

hmmm, I don't, they are a racist and homophobic bully boy organisation in my opinion, and that of every other free thinking person. As proved by recent exposes of their leader Nick Griffin. Totally shocking, I have many non-English friends, and I'm glad that I do, England for the English, what rubbish, England is a land of immigrants from other parts of Europe and thank goodness for it. Down with the BNP.

You seem quite mis-guided about them

1 Nick Griffin was acquitted of all charges at the case you refer to

2)I dont believe they are an Racist and homophobic orgonisation. You are getting the BNP mixed up with the national front

Arther Daley wrote:

harwood wrote:

Arther Daley wrote: Well I think this is a storm in a teacup, and despite what the media say, I think the BNP have some very respectable viewpoints today

hmmm, I don't, they are a racist and homophobic bully boy organisation in my opinion, and that of every other free thinking person. As proved by recent exposes of their leader Nick Griffin. Totally shocking, I have many non-English friends, and I'm glad that I do, England for the English, what rubbish, England is a land of immigrants from other parts of Europe and thank goodness for it. Down with the BNP.

You seem quite mis-guided about them 1 Nick Griffin was acquitted of all charges at the case you refer to 2)I dont believe they are an Racist and homophobic orgonisation. You are getting the BNP mixed up with the national front

Oh really, so the fact that "the current BNP has its roots in the New National Front, founded in 1980 by John Tyndall, a former chairman of the National Front" bears no relevance then does it? I wonder where there membership base came from.... hmmm let me see, oh most likely the national front. QED.

Probably why membership of the BNP is banned in the Police force, and shortly (if they pass it) in teaching professions too.

Arther Daley wrote:

harwood wrote:

Arther Daley wrote: Well I think this is a storm in a teacup, and despite what the media say, I think the BNP have some very respectable viewpoints today

hmmm, I don't, they are a racist and homophobic bully boy organisation in my opinion, and that of every other free thinking person. As proved by recent exposes of their leader Nick Griffin. Totally shocking, I have many non-English friends, and I'm glad that I do, England for the English, what rubbish, England is a land of immigrants from other parts of Europe and thank goodness for it. Down with the BNP.

You seem quite mis-guided about them 1 Nick Griffin was acquitted of all charges at the case you refer to 2)I dont believe they are an Racist and homophobic orgonisation. You are getting the BNP mixed up with the national front

and a bit of history on Nick Griffin...

"Nick Griffin became involved with the far right at the age of 15 when his father, Edgar Griffin, took him to meetings of the National Front (NF). By 1978, he was a local secretary for the NF.

In 1980, he became a member of the NF governing body, the National Directorate, when he also set up the NF Student Organisation. In 1980, Griffin launched Nationalism Today with the aid of Joe Pearce, editor of the NF youth paper Bulldog and twice imprisoned for incitement to racial hatred. Nationalism Today became the springboard for the Third Positionist ideas that the NF later adopted. Writing in Nationalism Today in 1985, Griffin praised the black separatist Louis Farrakhan, saying, "white nationalists everywhere wish well, for we share a common struggle for the same ends: racial separation and racial freedom".

and also...

"n 1998, Griffin, along with Paul Ballard, was convicted of violating section 19 of the Public Order Act 1986, relating to incitement to racial hatred for his editorship of issue 12 of The Rune, published in 1996."

So basically, your statement that the group isn't racist doesn't really hold any water at all does it giving that he was convicted of it and received a 9 month suspended prison sentence.

Not a nice person however you try to gloss over it, and the leader of the party to boot.

John Tyndall is dead. Update your info.

Saying the BNP has its roots in the national front, is like saying that New Labour today has its roots in the Michael foot era of the Labour Party - It does bus the link is vague and meaningless.

The BNP today are a respectable reasonable party, that deserve better than to be constantly misrepresented in the media leading to people like you (Harwood)spouting misinformation about a LEGAL political party.

John Tyndall is dead. Update your info.

Saying the BNP has its roots in the national front, is like saying that New Labour today has its roots in the Michael foot era of the Labour Party - It does bus the link is vague and meaningless.

The BNP today are a respectable reasonable party, that deserve better than to be constantly misrepresented in the media leading to people like you (Harwood)spouting misinformation about a LEGAL political party.

perhaps there would be a balance if we knew how many people were members of the Communist Party of Great Britain as well...

The BNP are a fascist party, and like all fascists, the thing to do is to get some guys with baseball bats and, you know, REALLY explain things to them

harwood wrote:

Arther Daley wrote:

harwood wrote:

Arther Daley wrote: Well I think this is a storm in a teacup, and despite what the media say, I think the BNP have some very respectable viewpoints today

hmmm, I don't, they are a racist and homophobic bully boy organisation in my opinion, and that of every other free thinking person. As proved by recent exposes of their leader Nick Griffin. Totally shocking, I have many non-English friends, and I'm glad that I do, England for the English, what rubbish, England is a land of immigrants from other parts of Europe and thank goodness for it. Down with the BNP.

You seem quite mis-guided about them 1 Nick Griffin was acquitted of all charges at the case you refer to 2)I dont believe they are an Racist and homophobic orgonisation. You are getting the BNP mixed up with the national front

and a bit of history on Nick Griffin... "Nick Griffin became involved with the far right at the age of 15 when his father, Edgar Griffin, took him to meetings of the National Front (NF). By 1978, he was a local secretary for the NF. In 1980, he became a member of the NF governing body, the National Directorate, when he also set up the NF Student Organisation. In 1980, Griffin launched Nationalism Today with the aid of Joe Pearce, editor of the NF youth paper Bulldog and twice imprisoned for incitement to racial hatred. Nationalism Today became the springboard for the Third Positionist ideas that the NF later adopted. Writing in Nationalism Today in 1985, Griffin praised the black separatist Louis Farrakhan, saying, "white nationalists everywhere wish well, for we share a common struggle for the same ends: racial separation and racial freedom". and also... "n 1998, Griffin, along with Paul Ballard, was convicted of violating section 19 of the Public Order Act 1986, relating to incitement to racial hatred for his editorship of issue 12 of The Rune, published in 1996." So basically, your statement that the group isn't racist doesn't really hold any water at all does it giving that he was convicted of it and received a 9 month suspended prison sentence. Not a nice person however you try to gloss over it, and the leader of the party to boot.

The most disturbing thing about the list if the names on it is anything to go by?

Is that there seems to be a reasonable number of people on it that themselves are not British?

Or at least not of British descent!

An oversight on the BNP'S recruitment part?

Or a disturbing parallel with the NAZI party in 1930's Germany?

You know Adolf, the one of Austrian descent!

Arther Daley wrote:
John Tyndall is dead. Update your info. Saying the BNP has its roots in the national front, is like saying that New Labour today has its roots in the Michael foot era of the Labour Party - It does bus the link is vague and meaningless. The BNP today are a respectable reasonable party, that deserve better than to be constantly misrepresented in the media leading to people like you (Harwood)spouting misinformation about a LEGAL political party.

and the relevance of the founder being dead is....? precisely nothing.

ok then, I'll modify my statement to the BNP a reasonable respectable far right wing political party with a leader convicted of inciting racial hatred then, that's a fact matey, one which you cannot deny, because it's true! lol.

I'll buy you a big tin of paint and a brush for you to gloss over that with, are you a member then, because I certainly am NOT nor never will be?

Why are all the other political parties frightened stiff of the BNP? Could it be because they speak up for the majority of the indigenous British who are aghast at the way our country is being taken over by foreigners, both black and white, with the encouragement of successive governments? That's not racist. That's caring about our history and culture.

Ronald wrote:
Why are all the other political parties frightened stiff of the BNP? Could it be because they speak up for the majority of the indigenous British who are aghast at the way our country is being taken over by foreigners, both black and white, with the encouragement of successive governments? That's not racist. That's caring about our history and culture.

Could it be because they speak up for the majority of the indigenous British who are aghast at the way our country is being taken over by foreigners?

WHAT? NOT UNLIKE "GREAT BRITIANS" COLONIAL PAST FOR INSTANCE?

harwood wrote:

Arther Daley wrote: Well I think this is a storm in a teacup, and despite what the media say, I think the BNP have some very respectable viewpoints today

hmmm, I don't, they are a racist and homophobic bully boy organisation in my opinion, and that of every other free thinking person. As proved by recent exposes of their leader Nick Griffin. Totally shocking, I have many non-English friends, and I'm glad that I do, England for the English, what rubbish, England is a land of immigrants from other parts of Europe and thank goodness for it. Down with the BNP.

would you accept unlimited immigration into the UK? bearing in mind the already overstretched nhs, housing shortage, rising unemployment, and ever increasing social security bill etc.

maybe the bnp are a little extreme but they would have less support if the mainstream political parties were firmer in their views with regards to immigration into an already bursting at the seams uk.

and on another point, if the bnp is a legal political party, where potentially they could have a canididate voted in as an mp, surely it's not democratic for policemen to be banned from being members?

I don't care what anyone says I'm looking forward to June of next year and the proportional representation European elections and casting my vote (for the first time) for the BNP....and I'll be proud to do so.

I can't think of a more politically incorrect way of sticking two fingers up to the bunch of inept, incompetent, economically unaware, traitors that are currently in charge.

Labours days are well and truly numbered and if the press only knew how many people supported the BNP they would sing a different tune and stop biased reports against them.

In a sky news poll in 2005 65% of people supported BNP policies...that number dropped to 55% when they were told they were BNP policies....you only need 40% to win outright in our first past the post system in this country!

Recent by elections have increased the BNP vote from 5% to over 20% in seats where they have stood for the first time! Not bad for a first showing! They have over 100 council seats and a seat on the Greater London Council. Support that will get larger as we approach 3 million plus unemployed under Labour.

I know of a LOT of like minded people so expect to see 3-5 BNP MEP's (or more) after next Junes election!

The cats out of the bag - they aren't knuckle dragging skinheads...they are people like you and me!

BRITISH!

....and annoyed!...best not get in their way!

Politics and religion are never easy subjects, however if i were a catholic irish football coach in Sussex with a sprinkling of black and jewish players amongst my white BRITISH selection who would i choose? Considering i am a newsagent and am a BNP member, do i not sell the independent as well? do i not also let any boy play on the left wing. what a world.

william of orange wrote:
I don't care what anyone says I'm looking forward to June of next year and the proportional representation European elections and casting my vote (for the first time) for the BNP....and I'll be proud to do so. I can't think of a more politically incorrect way of sticking two fingers up to the bunch of inept, incompetent, economically unaware, traitors that are currently in charge. Labours days are well and truly numbered and if the press only knew how many people supported the BNP they would sing a different tune and stop biased reports against them. In a sky news poll in 2005 65% of people supported BNP policies...that number dropped to 55% when they were told they were BNP policies....you only need 40% to win outright in our first past the post system in this country! Recent by elections have increased the BNP vote from 5% to over 20% in seats where they have stood for the first time! Not bad for a first showing! They have over 100 council seats and a seat on the Greater London Council. Support that will get larger as we approach 3 million plus unemployed under Labour. I know of a LOT of like minded people so expect to see 3-5 BNP MEP's (or more) after next Junes election! The cats out of the bag - they aren't knuckle dragging skinheads...they are people like you and me! BRITISH! ....and annoyed!...best not get in their way!

Few are denying that at the moment!

But as we know from "I'll never let house prices get out of control again" Gordon Brown?

What politicians say so they gain power, and what they do once they gained power, are very different things!

It's the "When their in power" bit I'm not looking forward to!

NOT THAT I HAVE ANY IDEA WHO TO VOTE FOR!

Oh dear, Nice planet while it lasted!

'Not knuckle dragging skinheads?' hohoho

Yes you are. Always were, right back to the days of Bulldog sold outside Chelsea, some things never change eh, Combat18? Still got links to chelsea, still cannot shake off the knuckle draggers.
Putting a silk suit on a gorrilla does not make him a man. And exactly how ENGLISH is the burke Nick Griffin? Ironic he wants to deploy Human Rights law to defend his members but the party line is to abolish it, can you square that one off please?
As police 'police' the Race Relations Act it is not compatible for them to be a BNP member. As for teachers, professional standards ought to be robust enough to deal with any political views held by a teacher.

JohnSmith47 wrote:
'Not knuckle dragging skinheads?' hohoho Yes you are. Always were, right back to the days of Bulldog sold outside Chelsea, some things never change eh, Combat18? Still got links to chelsea, still cannot shake off the knuckle draggers. Putting a silk suit on a gorrilla does not make him a man. And exactly how ENGLISH is the burke Nick Griffin? Ironic he wants to deploy Human Rights law to defend his members but the party line is to abolish it, can you square that one off please? As police 'police' the Race Relations Act it is not compatible for them to be a BNP member. As for teachers, professional standards ought to be robust enough to deal with any political views held by a teacher.

Interestingly? But sadly! The legal system itself passed a bill labeling the entire Police force "Institutionally Racist"

So it would appear, disturbingly? that the legal system itself has set the president the punishment as an entire group? (Collective) ignoring the extreme bravery of some individual Police officers, when it comes to tackling racist thugs! Is not only acceptable, but is the legal way forward!

There will probably be a swing to the BNP at the next election, but only as a reaction to the current crisis. Hitler rode to power during a depression by appealing to the ignorant masses and offering them a scapegoat to vent their anger on.
That's just what the BNP will try to do. Once they've won over the simpletons (such as their supporters posting here) they will move on the their real agenda, which hasn't changed since the 1980s - political thuggery and fascism.
Make no mistake, the BNP leadership is the same scum that was the NF.

If the BNP are so respectable why is anyone bothered that their membership of it is now public knowledge?

I've never seen people hiding their faces going into the local tory club...

LB wrote:
If the BNP are so respectable why is anyone bothered that their membership of it is now public knowledge? I've never seen people hiding their faces going into the local tory club...

Because BNP members are victimised, bullied and hounded out of their jobs when all they've done is join a perfectly legitimate legal political party. They have views that you may not agree with but they have a right to have them.

I have seriously considered joining but work for an anti-white, anti British employer...for the time being I will content myself with being a first time BNP voter in June of next year....as its a proportional representation election every vote counts.

I can't think of anything better than sending anti European BNP MEP's to represent us in Europe! lol

I see WOO's shown his colours, aside from forever bleating on about how rubbish labour are, thanks, we get the point now after your 500th post about it, he is a supporter of teh BNP..poor misguided little man!

Does ANYBODY really care?

If so, tell me why below.....

Hmmm...

The problem with Britain is the British.

The lazy, idle idiots who complain that "they're taken all our jobs" when, in the past when those jobs were available, the British didn't want to do them!

Quit complaining. Yes, this country has been pandering to the needs of other for too long (Muslims, mainly, because apparently we're scared of them) but that's NO reason to vote for a racist party. Yes, they have a few ideas and say stuff others are scared to, but who cares? Mainly, they're a bunch of tits who deserve that list published and revenge acted upon them.

Arther Daley wrote:

harwood wrote:

Arther Daley wrote: Well I think this is a storm in a teacup, and despite what the media say, I think the BNP have some very respectable viewpoints today

hmmm, I don't, they are a racist and homophobic bully boy organisation in my opinion, and that of every other free thinking person. As proved by recent exposes of their leader Nick Griffin. Totally shocking, I have many non-English friends, and I'm glad that I do, England for the English, what rubbish, England is a land of immigrants from other parts of Europe and thank goodness for it. Down with the BNP.

You seem quite mis-guided about them 1 Nick Griffin was acquitted of all charges at the case you refer to 2)I dont believe they are an Racist and homophobic orgonisation. You are getting the BNP mixed up with the national front

1) Yeh, no smoke without fire though eh?

2) I think the main problem is that BNP members get themselves mixed up with the national front - a lamentable extremist organisation masquerading as a political "party". I think take away the name, and let them sip their £1.50 a pint beers in the WMC's and leave it at that.

If the BNP are so acceptable then why do the POLICE not accept employees being members - says a lot really..

Well my mate N*******s *o*e is on the list, he is the kindest man you could ever meet.

To my knowledge he has helped a Polish immigrant settle into his new job and helped a 'gypsy' boy and his new wife settle into a new flat (albiet) temporarily.
He also helped an elderly lady from up north with her re-location arrangements, he even helps local children get to school when he can.

N is a wonderful man , and is a credit to the BNP and society generally.

Arther Daley wrote:
Well my mate N*******s *o*e is on the list, he is the kindest man you could ever meet.

To my knowledge he has helped a Polish immigrant settle into his new job and helped a 'gypsy' boy and his new wife settle into a new flat (albiet) temporarily.
He also helped an elderly lady from up north with her re-location arrangements, he even helps local children get to school when he can.

N is a wonderful man , and is a credit to the BNP and society generally.

Well, I guess after the BNP read this he'll be kicked out!

Maybe all the pro BNP people posting messages there could put their names and addresses up if they're so proud.

Andre Spooner wrote:
Maybe all the pro BNP people posting messages there could put their names and addresses up if they're so proud.

Nice Idea Andre, why should they.? And before you ask, NO im not a member of the BNP, but I did vote for them at the local elections 3 years ago.

Racist!

Andre, how old are you, about eight? Either construct a proper argument or don't bother posting. Your last post sounded like a small child in a playground.

If you had any half-decent reporters, maybe, just maybe, you'd have got some half-decent quotes and a story worth reading - a rarity for the Argus, I know. Ever had the feeling you've been cheated?

Human Machine, are you really a machine? Do you make a whirring sound when your cogs grind?

Arthur Daley (if that is his real name) said he had voted for the BNP. So then I called him a racist. Not the most unreasonable statement to make, really?

Made In Sussex wrote:
I see WOO's shown his colours, aside from forever bleating on about how rubbish labour are, thanks, we get the point now after your 500th post about it, he is a supporter of teh BNP..poor misguided little man!

Show my colours!...I wasn't aware I was hiding them...my colours are red, white and blue..and yours?...just red I suppose...or maybe...white....or perhaps a nice shade of yellow?

...and as for "bleating on about how bad Labour are"..expect more bleats...because they give me a lot of ammunition don't they? lol

oh and I'm 6ft 3...hardly little!

Roll on June elections...payback time!

Made In Sussex wrote:
If the BNP are so acceptable then why do the POLICE not accept employees being members - says a lot really..

Because Labour has politicised the police. Simple really!

Under this Government in the last decade we've seen ex IRA members take up senior political posts...hardly pushing the envelope of democracy if we then elect someone who has produced an "illegal" pamphlet is it!!

I mean what next?...are we going to arrest them for stepping on the cracks in the pavement!

Andre Spooner wrote:
Human Machine, are you really a machine? Do you make a whirring sound when your cogs grind? Arthur Daley (if that is his real name) said he had voted for the BNP. So then I called him a racist. Not the most unreasonable statement to make, really?

Er Andre (if that is your real name - I thought it was a singing sea lion in a Disney film), Its unreasonable because I am not a racist!!!!

I have 2 mixed race nephews whom I adore and at least 3 good friends whom are of Pakistani origin, and a Filipino Girlfriend - Hardly a racist!

And no Arther Daley is not my real name , neither was:

Jack Reagan
Son of Meg Mortimer
Bring Back TVS
Spencer1973

All of which were censored due to comments deemed offensive by the mods, but in many cases were eminently reasonable.

"Some of my best friends are foreign, yo?"

Then why on earth would you be voting for the BNP? They certainly wouldn't do any good for your mixed-race nephews if they got into power, would they? If you're so friendly with people of other races, why are you voting for a party that actively discriminates against them?

Wow. Them's some impressive secret pseudonyms, Arthur. You truly are the king of the Argus message board. I'm sure Richard Gurner will give you a rosette in a bit.

Andre Spooner wrote:
"Some of my best friends are foreign, yo?" Then why on earth would you be voting for the BNP? They certainly wouldn't do any good for your mixed-race nephews if they got into power, would they? If you're so friendly with people of other races, why are you voting for a party that actively discriminates against them? Wow. Them's some impressive secret pseudonyms, Arthur. You truly are the king of the Argus message board. I'm sure Richard Gurner will give you a rosette in a bit.

Andre - you really are a 'wackner'

william of orange wrote:

Made In Sussex wrote: If the BNP are so acceptable then why do the POLICE not accept employees being members - says a lot really..

Because Labour has politicised the police. Simple really! Under this Government in the last decade we've seen ex IRA members take up senior political posts...hardly pushing the envelope of democracy if we then elect someone who has produced an "illegal" pamphlet is it!! I mean what next?...are we going to arrest them for stepping on the cracks in the pavement!

...and before the month is out proof indeed that the police are Labours poodles....no less than 8 anti terrorism officers turn up to arrest a shadow front bench Tory....his "crime"...making public things that are clearly in the publics interest to know!

Zimbabwe politics are in town people...take care!

This dying Labour Government is really going down fighting!